Thursday, 2024-02-01

direc85[m]good morning07:54
ExTechOpGood morning, everyone!07:56
rainemakgood morning08:00
rainemak#startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 1st Feb 202408:00
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rainemak#info Meeting information and agenda can be found here:08:00
rainemakI am the meeting's chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please respect the timings and bee-hive.08:01
rainemak#topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info08:01
ExTechOp#info Otto Mäkelä, community08:01
direc85[m]#info Matti Viljanen, community08:01
rainemak#info Raine Mäkeläinen, sailor @ Jolla, chairperson today08:01
ViGe#info Ville Nummela, community08:02
rainemakNot too many topics today. One from last meeting leaving us a good amount for general discussion.08:03
Crabster#info Crabster - lurker08:03
rainemak#topic Update on Sailflish on the Pinephone Pro  (10mins -- asked by piggz)08:05
rainemak#info <piggz> Could jolla provide an update on how discussions have progressed08:05
rainemak#info <piggz> with Pine64 regarding shipping SFOS on the PPP. Im aware that08:05
rainemak#info <piggz> discussions took place, but progress on any issues seems to have08:05
rainemak#info <piggz> been slow, probably due to the restructure. It would be good to08:05
rainemak#info <piggz> see this through and see Sailfish available to this market.08:05
rainemak#info <Jolla> Thank you piggz! Unfortunately, there's nothing to update on the08:06
rainemak#info <Jolla> matter now. Hope you understand.08:06
rainemakI guess that's well enough covered with that.08:08
ExTechOpA shame, it would be nice to see this progress.08:08
rainemakI understand you08:08
flypig#info David Llewellyn-Jones, community... late!08:10
rainemakno worries David08:10
poetaster#info poetaster community ... chasing David!08:10
rainemak#topic Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla)08:14
rainemak#info <Jolla> Any open PRs to discuss?08:14
rainemakflypig, direc85[m], anybody?08:14
flypigNothing that springs to mind.08:15
direc85[m]Not much from me, regarding Rust 1.75 that is08:15
rainemaknothing from me either. As there are no bug reports today. Let's move to general discussion.08:16
flypigIt's nice to see packages being updated (from dcaliste's roundup).08:16
rainemak#topic General discussion (10 min)08:16
rainemakflypig, yeap. There has been plenty of package updates.08:17
flypigLooking forward to seeing some of you in Brussels in a couple of days.08:18
rainemak#info If you're participating FOSDEM, please stop by our stand. We're on Building AW level 1 group A.08:18
flypig+1 to that!08:18
ExTechOpI assume there is no new news regarding where SFOS development will progress?08:18
ExTechOpHowever, I'd like to ask, how are people doing at Jolla/whaterveritscallednow, the last few months must have been very stressful?08:18
poetasterwill be there!08:18
flypigJust to warn you, FOSDEM agreed to give us an additional stand, so it's possible we'll be moved somewhere else; best check the website on the day.08:19
rainemakflypig, thank for the heads up. Will inform pvuorela as well.08:19
rainemak#info We confirmed Sailfish Community Event venue and timing earlier this week (Vinomania at Sat 9 PM). Please find details from the link below.08:20
rainemakthe event is organized after FOSDEM day and there's food as well08:20
flypigrainemak, should that be 19:00?08:21
rainemak#info We confirmed Sailfish Community Event venue and timing earlier this week (Vinomania at Sat 7 PM). Please find details from the link below.08:21
rainemakflypig, correct... just noticed as well :-)08:21
rainemakmy apologies08:21
flypigIt's hard to believe the last FOSDEM was only 12 months ago. Very much looking forward to the dinner event.08:22
direc85[m]I wish I could attend, especially because I already visited Brussels just last month!08:23
flypigWe'll miss you direc85[m].08:24
rainemakflypig, all you all set for the FOSDEM ?08:24
piggz[m]i too would love to be there... esp as someone is giving a talk about Amazfish!08:24
rainemakUnfortunately, strikes taking place today & tomorrow here in Finland messed up flights etc08:24
poetasterSame here. Today, no flights, tomorrow, no light rail. Should 'just' make it out saturday morning.08:25
flypigWe have rail strikes here in the UK too. It's all a bit of a mess!08:25
flypigI hope you all have safe travel and make it okay.08:25
rainemakI'm flying to Amsterdam and taking a train from there.08:26
flypigThat sounds a bit exhausting :(08:26
ExTechOp(the Finnish strikes are not directed towards the employers, but the government)08:26
poetasterin germany, the rail strikes are against the corporation which is owned by the gov't :)08:27
ExTechOp(the current right-wing government seems hell-bent on austerity (based on rather shaky statistics, except they are also for tax cuts) and enshittifying work for everyone)08:30
poetasterI was hoping to get some (badly overdue) fossdem updates out, but I'm stuck in hardware hacking land. Maybe I should bring some pcbs :)08:30
flypigExTechOp, this seems to be a common theme right now across countries.08:31
flypigpoetaster, what are you working on?08:31
poetastera Euclidian drum machine (arduino), an L-Systems animation / audification (plays ragas) pi pico project, upgrades to my modular mini synths. Too much at the same time.08:33
poetasterbut they all have to sync!08:33
flypigThat sounds like an amazing cluster of projects. What makes a drum machine Euclidian?08:33
flypigpiggz[m], which devroom is the Amazfish talk in?08:35
poetasterEuclidean rythms are fundemental to most traditional music. And a nice way to get automagic drummer.
poetasterflypig, original paper:
flypigOh, nice. So... all about division and Euclid's algorithm. Nice to learn something new before 9am :)08:36
flypigThanks poetaster. Fascinating, and surprisingly recent too.08:37
rainemaklet's schedule next meeting08:38
rainemak#topic Next meeting time and date (5 mins)08:38
rainemakProposing Thursday 15th February at 08:00am UTC08:38
ExTechOpMay be on vacation, but otherwise works4me08:39
flypigI'll have to skip the next one, but will catch up with the minutes.08:39
poetasterrainemak, sounds good.08:40
direc85[m]Works for me08:41
rainemakflypig, no problem08:41
rainemak#info Next meeting will be held on Thursday 15th February 2023 at 08:00am UTC: 2024-02-15T0800Z08:42
rainemakThank you all!08:42
ExTechOpThanks, everyone, have a fun FOSDEM who gets there!08:43
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flypigThanks rainemak, all!08:43
poetasterthanks and see y'all soon at fossdem!08:43
Crabsterthx #?08:43
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