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| Crabster | morning | 06:39 |
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| ExTechOp | Good morning, everyone! | 06:42 |
| rainemak | Good morning! | 06:55 |
| rainemak | #startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 13th June 2024 | 07:00 |
| sailbot | Meeting started Thu Jun 13 07:00:32 2024 UTC. The chair is rainemak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:00 |
| sailbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 07:00 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 13th June 2024)" | 07:00 | |
| rainemak | #info Meeting information and agenda can be found here: | 07:00 |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-13th-june-2024/18983 | 07:00 |
| rainemak | I am the meeting's chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please respect the timings and bee-hive. | 07:00 |
| rainemak | #topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info | 07:00 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 13th June 2024)" | 07:00 | |
| rainemak | #info Raine Mäkeläinen, sailor @ Jolla, chairperson today | 07:00 |
| Crabster | #info Crabster - lurker | 07:01 |
| rainemak | Maybe summer time affecting... not too many participants. Let's get started! | 07:05 |
| rainemak | #topic SailfishOS licence for 10iv and 10v - separate devices/licences, or considered as one? (2mins -- asked by PeegeeTips) | 07:05 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "SailfishOS licence for 10iv and 10v - separate devices/licences, or considered as one? (2mins -- asked by PeegeeTips) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 13th June 2024)" | 07:05 | |
| rainemak | #info <PeegeeTips> An XA2 licence technically covered six sub-variants: XA2 | 07:05 |
| rainemak | #info <PeegeeTips> (single/dual), XA2 Ultra (single/dual), XA2 Plus (single/dual). | 07:05 |
| rainemak | #info <PeegeeTips> Given that the 10iv has been included after then end of sales | 07:05 |
| rainemak | #info <PeegeeTips> life of its successor the 10v (and thus limited availability), | 07:05 |
| rainemak | #info <PeegeeTips> and has been included mainly because it has near identical | 07:05 |
| rainemak | #info <PeegeeTips> hardware to its successor (and thus low support cost), would it | 07:05 |
| rainemak | #info <PeegeeTips> be reasonable to expect Jolla to sell a licence product that | 07:05 |
| rainemak | #info <PeegeeTips> works with either device? i.e. there is a 10ii licence, there is | 07:05 |
| rainemak | #info <PeegeeTips> a 10iii licence, and there is a 10iv/v licence. Justification - | 07:05 |
| rainemak | #info <PeegeeTips> both devices are becoming harder to find, having a joint licence | 07:05 |
| rainemak | #info <PeegeeTips> simply provides ease of mind that you can get a licence safe in | 07:05 |
| rainemak | #info <PeegeeTips> the knowledge that it will work on whatever handset you can find | 07:05 |
| rainemak | #info <PeegeeTips> that is still available to buy. | 07:06 |
| rainemak | #info Giving 5mins | 07:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> Thank you PeegeeTips for your suggestion / idea. Current one-time-fee | 07:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> licenses you can find from shop.jolla.com. For new supported Sony models | 07:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> we will also have one-time-fee license (perpetual) but pricing is not | 07:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> yet settled. One-time-fee license would still be bound to a device. | 07:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> Thus, a joint license is not likely an option. | 07:06 |
| rainemak | Let's move on.... | 07:10 |
| rainemak | #topic Old Sailfish OS Version (2mins - asked by Sanginteret) | 07:10 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Old Sailfish OS Version (2mins - asked by Sanginteret) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 13th June 2024)" | 07:10 | |
| ExTechOp | #info Otto Mäkelä, community | 07:10 |
| rainemak | #info <Sanginteret> I would like to download old version of Sailfish OS on my Xperia | 07:10 |
| rainemak | #info <Sanginteret> X. To see what it was like in the past. There is an unofficial | 07:10 |
| rainemak | #info <Sanginteret> torrent repo, but it’s very slow. Could Jolla share an official | 07:10 |
| rainemak | #info <Sanginteret> archive of old version ? | 07:10 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> Thank you for asking. Unfortunately old version are not available. | 07:10 |
| rainemak | Hi ExTechOp | 07:10 |
| rainemak | #topic Decouple the device encryption password and login screen password (1min -- asked by Systematics) | 07:12 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Decouple the device encryption password and login screen password (1min -- asked by Systematics) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 13th June 2024)" | 07:12 | |
| rainemak | #info <Systematics> Does Jolla planning to decouple the device encryption password | 07:12 |
| rainemak | #info <Systematics> and login screen password? A strong encryption for a mobile | 07:12 |
| rainemak | #info <Systematics> device is important. For reaching a strong encryption, a complex | 07:12 |
| rainemak | #info <Systematics> and long encryption key is needed. Passing that key one time at | 07:12 |
| rainemak | #info <Systematics> the boot is not a problem but for regular usage (unlock) it | 07:12 |
| rainemak | #info <Systematics> could be difficult. The Jolla Community Phone does not has a | 07:12 |
| rainemak | #info <Systematics> fingerprint sensor, the Sony Xperia does have a fingerprint so | 07:12 |
| rainemak | #info <Systematics> there was a “workaround” for unlocking in on these devices. | 07:12 |
| rainemak | Giving 5 mins as well. | 07:12 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> Thank you Systematics! Like pherjung commented after you, this has | 07:12 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> been proposed earlier. Could be something to consider. | 07:12 |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/allow-to-decouple-luks-password-from-used-security-code/7950 | 07:12 |
| rainemak | #topic Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla) | 07:17 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 13th June 2024)" | 07:17 | |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> Any open PRs to discuss? | 07:17 |
| rainemak | I guess not... let's move on. | 07:20 |
| rainemak | #topic General discussion (10 min) | 07:21 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "General discussion (10 min) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 13th June 2024)" | 07:21 | |
| rainemak | My 2 cents, it was very nice to see flypig_ proceeding with esr91 | 07:22 |
| ExTechOp | Has Jolla noted the issue that came up with Sauna 4.6.0.12 and Aurora software installations? https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/release-notes-sauna-4-6-0-12/19007/2 | 07:22 |
| rainemak | ExTechOp, yes. noted. | 07:22 |
| ExTechOp | Is the problem with Aurora or how SFOS does the installation, can it be expected to be fixed in the next release without the setting changes detailed there? | 07:25 |
| ExTechOp | Some banking software refuses to work on a phone that has been changed to developer mode. | 07:25 |
| rainemak | ExTechOp, I don't know details what has changed in the Aurora store but the issue is likely in our side. We have a fix for it. Not perfect but working. | 07:29 |
| rainemak | remove likely :-) | 07:29 |
| rainemak | Thanks ExTechOp for your questions | 07:30 |
| rainemak | Let's schedule next meeting | 07:30 |
| rainemak | #topic Next meeting time and date (5 mins) | 07:30 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Next meeting time and date (5 mins) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 13th June 2024)" | 07:30 | |
| rainemak | Proposing Thursday 4th July at 07:00am UTC | 07:30 |
| rainemak | I'm thinking that we'd skip fortnight newsletter next week due to midsummer. Then next newsletter would be 27th June and next community meeting week after that 4th July. | 07:30 |
| ExTechOp | UK election day, and US independence day. Nice. | 07:31 |
| rainemak | Overall, vacation period might be challenging. | 07:31 |
| rainemak | In Finland, folks mostly on vacation during July... It has been shifting towards August but still for most July is the vacation month. | 07:32 |
| rainemak | If 4th July looks reasonably let's try... we'll update if it looks that it's more feasible to push it forward. | 07:34 |
| Crabster | k | 07:34 |
| ExTechOp | Works4me. | 07:34 |
| rainemak | #info Next meeting will be held on Thursday 4th July 2024 at 07:00am UTC: 2024-07-04T0700Z | 07:35 |
| rainemak | Thank you all! | 07:35 |
| rainemak | Enjoy summer | 07:35 |
| rainemak | #endmeeting | 07:35 |
| sailbot | Meeting ended Thu Jun 13 07:35:28 2024 UTC. | 07:35 |
| sailbot | Minutes: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2024/sailfishos-meeting.2024-06-13-07.00.html | 07:35 |
| sailbot | Minutes (text): https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2024/sailfishos-meeting.2024-06-13-07.00.txt | 07:35 |
| sailbot | Log: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2024/sailfishos-meeting.2024-06-13-07.00.log.html | 07:35 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Next meeting will be held on Thursday 13th June 2024 at 07:00am UTC: 2024-06-13T0700Z" | 07:35 | |
| ExTechOp | Thanks everybody, have fun! | 07:35 |
| Crabster | thx rainemak and ExTechOp | 07:35 |
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