| Crabster | morning | 07:58 |
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| rainemak | good morning | 07:58 |
| ViGe | morning | 07:58 |
| rainemak | I'll grab a cup of coffee | 07:58 |
| toastal | Good afternoon | 07:58 |
| rainemak | good afternoon | 07:58 |
| rainemak | also good night is that happens to apply | 07:59 |
| toastal | & สวัสดีตอนบ่าย | 07:59 |
| rainemak | s/is/if/ | 07:59 |
| direc85[m] | Good morning! | 07:59 |
| rainemak | #startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 30th January 2025 | 08:00 |
| sailbot | Meeting started Thu Jan 30 08:00:08 2025 UTC. The chair is rainemak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| sailbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 08:00 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 30th January 2025)" | 08:00 | |
| rainemak | #info Meeting information and agenda can be found here: | 08:00 |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-30th-january-2025/21721 | 08:00 |
| rainemak | I am the meeting's chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please respect the timings and bee-hive. | 08:00 |
| rainemak | #topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info | 08:00 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 30th January 2025)" | 08:00 | |
| rainemak | #info Raine Mäkeläinen, Jolla | 08:00 |
| ViGe | #info Ville Nummela, community | 08:00 |
| Crabster | #info Crabster - lurker | 08:01 |
| abr | #info Andrew Branson - sailing by | 08:02 |
| toastal | #info toastal, community | 08:02 |
| direc85[m] | #info Matti Viljanen, Jolla | 08:02 |
| rainemak | Proposing that we spend a bit of time for FOSDEM as few us are going there | 08:04 |
| rainemak | then leaving still good amount of time for general discussion | 08:04 |
| rainemak | welcome all | 08:05 |
| rainemak | #topic FOSDEM 2025 (10mins -- asked by Jolla) | 08:05 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "FOSDEM 2025 (10mins -- asked by Jolla) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 30th January 2025)" | 08:05 | |
| rainemak | Here's various related links | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #info Forum FOSDEM 2025 topic | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/fosdem25-stand/20747 | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #info Flypig's talk on mobile browser | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #link https://fosdem.org/2025/schedule/event/fosdem-2025-6411-mobile-browsers-the-best-of-times-the-worst-of-times/ | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #info Sailfish Community Meetup 1st February 2025 Brussels - Sat 8:30 PM | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfish-community-meetup-1st-february-2025-brussels/21765/9 | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #info Sailfish OS Community BoF on Sun 11:30 AM | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #link https://fosdem.org/2025/schedule/event/fosdem-2025-6773-sailfish-os-community-bof/ | 08:06 |
| rainemak | We try to organize another BoF as well. Let's see. | 08:06 |
| dcaliste | #info Damien Caliste, community | 08:06 |
| rainemak | Let's utilize that FOSDEM 2025 forum thread as well | 08:07 |
| rainemak | hello dcaliste | 08:07 |
| dcaliste | Sorry to be late. | 08:07 |
| rainemak | np | 08:07 |
| rainemak | for the Sailfish BoF we try to organize some kind of a stream or way to follow also remotely | 08:08 |
| rainemak | or let's say we were bouncing that idea with abr | 08:08 |
| toastal | Are FOSDEM talks recorded/posted? I coincidentally just read the blog post about the browser & would love to see the talk. | 08:09 |
| rainemak | talks are recorded | 08:09 |
| rainemak | I don't recall whether BoFs are | 08:09 |
| rainemak | thank you everybody helping to organize all sort of things | 08:11 |
| rainemak | surely there are tons great tracks to follow... | 08:11 |
| rainemak | few sailors traveling to FOSDEM on Friday afternoon - so you should have a good chance to meet us there | 08:15 |
| abr | No the BoFs aren't if I remember right. We just get a conference room to ourselves. | 08:15 |
| rainemak | let's move on... | 08:16 |
| rainemak | #topic Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla) | 08:17 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 30th January 2025)" | 08:17 | |
| dcaliste | It could become a interesting reading in the community newsletter if someone summarizes the discussions in the BoF. | 08:17 |
| rainemak | dcaliste, that's good idea... also summing up FOSDEM happening in general | 08:18 |
| rainemak | BoF summary could be a post of it's own as well | 08:18 |
| dcaliste | It won't be as nice and interesting as being there, but well... | 08:19 |
| rainemak | let's continue Fosdem related things on general discussion | 08:19 |
| rainemak | anybody, open PRs? pvuorela, dcaliste, abr, flypig[m], ? | 08:20 |
| dcaliste | Not now, several discussions are going on about QMF. | 08:21 |
| rainemak | That's good | 08:21 |
| rainemak | let's move to the general discussion then... | 08:22 |
| pvuorela | yea, nothing special to discuss for me, but the qmf stuff has been progressing nicely. | 08:22 |
| rainemak | #topic General discussion (30 mins) | 08:22 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "General discussion (30 mins) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 30th January 2025)" | 08:22 | |
| rainemak | #info We have now community calendar - thank you abr | 08:22 |
| rainemak | #link https://docs.sailfishos.org/Support/community.ics | 08:22 |
| rainemak | Contributions via https://github.com/sailfishos/docs.sailfishos.org | 08:22 |
| rainemak | Example https://github.com/sailfishos/docs.sailfishos.org/pull/433 | 08:22 |
| dcaliste | Yeh thank you, and it was a good idea to use UTC and get rid of the timezone defintion. | 08:23 |
| rainemak | Sailfish BoF via sailfishos-meeting? Would that nice? We would have live meeting minutes. Then later we could wrap it up / summarize to forum. | 08:24 |
| abr | I didn't know that ical files contain the full history of used timezone for the last century or so. | 08:24 |
| rainemak | Would that be nice? | 08:24 |
| ViGe | rainemak: sounds like a good idea to me | 08:25 |
| abr | someone would have to spend the whole time typing very fast! | 08:25 |
| abr | unless we could get an AI to do it :) | 08:26 |
| rainemak | abr, could be similar to normal meeting minute notes | 08:26 |
| Nico | Oh, neat, calendar! | 08:26 |
| dcaliste | I won't be able to attent it this week-end, ilve. As far as I'm concerned, a summary will already be very nice. | 08:27 |
| rainemak | Before somebody asks, here's update status for Xperia 10 IV and 10 V https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfish-community-news-23rd-january-2025-jolla-c2-next-batch-available/21791/10 | 08:28 |
| rainemak | #info status update for Xperia 10 IV and 10 V: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfish-community-news-23rd-january-2025-jolla-c2-next-batch-available/21791/10 | 08:29 |
| abr | I created another calendar PR to add the BoF meeting | 08:29 |
| dcaliste | abr, about TZ defintion, it's not mandatory, mentioning the name of the TZ could be enough and you rely on the system having a definition for this name. Obviously, Windows and Linux don't use the same naming conventions, so for better portability of its events, Mozilla (and others) are providing the full TZ definition in every serialisation... | 08:29 |
| rainemak | abr, thanks | 08:29 |
| rainemak | dcaliste, we'll try to summarize it somehow | 08:29 |
| dcaliste | Thank you rainemak, that's really great. | 08:29 |
| toastal | (thanks for the status update ) | 08:30 |
| abr | dcaliste: interesting. it's not a lot of data when you're not looking at the text, so I can see why they do it. Going back to 1923 does seem a bit silly though :) | 08:30 |
| toastal | UTC is nice when you don’t live in a place with daylight’s savings. The +X makes the math easy as well, but juggling DST is unfun. | 08:32 |
| rubdos[m] | <rainemak> "#info We have now community..." <- Thanks for the ics btw. I am watching an exam, otherwise I would have been here :) | 08:33 |
| dcaliste | The calendar you're using to view the data is doing the conversion to show it in local time. It's a pain for the one who is creating the event. Need to pay much attention. | 08:33 |
| rainemak | rubdos[m], you're welcome. This was a good initiative and simple methods used to implement it | 08:35 |
| ExTechOp | #info Otto Mäkelä, community | 08:35 |
| rainemak | welcome ExTechOp | 08:35 |
| ExTechOp | (this is what happens when you come in late to work and are attacked from all sides with the things that happened overnight) | 08:36 |
| ExTechOp | I of course missed what was discussed earlier, but is there anything new on Sony Xperia 10V firmware updates? | 08:37 |
| rainemak | ExTechOp, no update on firmware... just that it will receive Sailfish 5 | 08:39 |
| rainemak | latest status update here https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfish-community-news-23rd-january-2025-jolla-c2-next-batch-available/21791/10 | 08:40 |
| ExTechOp | I am unsure if I've installed it correctly, I have SFOS 4.6.0.15 on it but without Android™ AppSupport? | 08:42 |
| rainemak | ExTechOp, we do not have license for AppSupport and friends yet published. We'd like to have camera, fingerprint and battery status working. That said, we should consider releasing some sort of a beta support which would have AppSupport but other issues would be there. Note that we have not communicated license prices for new supported phones (I'm referring to one time license price). | 08:47 |
| rainemak | ExTechOp, your setup sounds right | 08:47 |
| ExTechOp | Thanks, I'll wait for update then! | 08:47 |
| rainemak | ExTechOp, sounds to me that you would like to get AppSupport? | 08:48 |
| rainemak | Worth noting that along with next release we do have greatly improved microG support. Many of us have been testing and enjoying it quite a bit. | 08:52 |
| ExTechOp | Well, this is the reason for SFOS for me, I prefer having a phone where the business model is not spying on me, but for reasons beyond me I need to use certain Android software for my daily stuff. | 08:52 |
| ExTechOp | For example, Tiima, Epassi and OmaMehiläinen are essential for work, Signal, c:geo and MobilePay for hobbies (yes, I know about Whisperfish). | 08:52 |
| rainemak | ExTechOp, there are quite often those few Android apps that you need | 08:53 |
| rainemak | indeed | 08:53 |
| rainemak | Sailfish 5.0 early access release for all supported device might be closer than you could even imagine | 08:55 |
| ExTechOp | \o/ | 08:55 |
| rainemak | alright. time is almost up | 08:55 |
| rainemak | Time to schedule a next meeting | 08:55 |
| rainemak | #topic Next meeting time and date (2 mins) | 08:56 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Next meeting time and date (2 mins) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 30th January 2025)" | 08:56 | |
| rainemak | Proposing Thursday 13th February at 08:00am UTC | 08:56 |
| rainemak | ^ the usual biweekly rhythm | 08:56 |
| ExTechOp | Will likely be travelling then, but I'll try to be there if possible. | 08:56 |
| dcaliste | I'm ok with this date and time. | 08:57 |
| rainemak | #info Next meeting will be held on Thursday 13th February 2025 at 08:00am UTC: 2025-02-13T0800Z | 08:57 |
| rainemak | Thank you all! For those who are joining to FOSDEM, let's meet there. | 08:58 |
| ExTechOp | Thank you everyone! | 08:58 |
| direc85[m] | Thanks all! | 08:58 |
| ViGe | thanks! | 08:58 |
| dcaliste | Thank you, enjoy the Fosdem and its discussions. | 08:59 |
| Nico | Looking forward to seeing some of you at FOSDEM :3 | 08:59 |
| rainemak | Nico, Likewise | 08:59 |
| rainemak | #endmeeting | 09:00 |
| sailbot | Meeting ended Thu Jan 30 09:00:05 2025 UTC. | 09:00 |
| sailbot | Minutes: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2025/sailfishos-meeting.2025-01-30-08.00.html | 09:00 |
| sailbot | Minutes (text): https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2025/sailfishos-meeting.2025-01-30-08.00.txt | 09:00 |
| sailbot | Log: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2025/sailfishos-meeting.2025-01-30-08.00.log.html | 09:00 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Next meeting will be held on Thursday 30th January 2025 at 08:00am UTC: 2025-01-30T0800Z" | 09:00 | |
| rainemak | almost sharp | 09:00 |
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