| rainemak | Good morning | 07:56 |
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| direc85[m] | Good morning! | 07:59 |
| flypig | Morning! | 07:59 |
| rainemak | Hi direc85[m] and flypig | 07:59 |
| rainemak | #startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 27th March 2025 | 08:00 |
| sailbot | Meeting started Thu Mar 27 08:00:04 2025 UTC. The chair is rainemak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| sailbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 08:00 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 27th March 2025)" | 08:00 | |
| rainemak | #info Meeting information and agenda can be found here: | 08:00 |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-27th-march-2025/22640 | 08:00 |
| rainemak | I am the meeting's chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please respect the timings and bee-hive. | 08:00 |
| rainemak | #topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info | 08:00 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 27th March 2025)" | 08:00 | |
| rainemak | #info Raine Mäkeläinen, Jolla | 08:00 |
| direc85[m] | #info Matti Viljanen, Jolla | 08:00 |
| pvuorela | #info Pekka Vuorela, Jolla | 08:01 |
| ViGe | #info Ville Nummela, community | 08:01 |
| flypig | #info David Llewellyn-Jones, community | 08:01 |
| rainemak | nice to see you ViGe | 08:02 |
| ExTechOp | Good morning, everyone! | 08:02 |
| ExTechOp | #info Otto Mäkelä, community | 08:02 |
| rainemak | welcome ExTechOp | 08:02 |
| Saltpie[m] | #info tfinn, community | 08:03 |
| dcaliste | #info Damien Caliste, community | 08:03 |
| poetaster | #info poetaster, community | 08:03 |
| dcaliste | Good morning ! | 08:04 |
| poetaster | Morning! | 08:04 |
| rainemak | Good morning Saltpie[m] dcaliste and poetaster | 08:04 |
| rainemak | No topics today. There was one late Sony blobs related question but did not have a | 08:05 |
| rainemak | chance to check that in timely manner. Let's cover that on the next meeting. | 08:05 |
| rainemak | #topic Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla) | 08:05 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 27th March 2025)" | 08:05 | |
| rainemak | maybe dcaliste, direc85[m] or pvuorela have some? | 08:06 |
| abr | #info Andrew Branson, sorry I'm late! | 08:06 |
| rainemak | no worry abr | 08:06 |
| poetaster | nah, just bumming around :) | 08:07 |
| dcaliste | pvuorela reviewed several patch in upstream QMF recently, thanks to him. | 08:07 |
| rainemak | dcaliste, what kind of goodies we're expecting to see? | 08:08 |
| rainemak | dcaliste, we can discuss that on general topic as well | 08:09 |
| rainemak | let's move on | 08:09 |
| pvuorela | i don't have anything specific to discuss. the pr discussion has been going nicely in the prs themselves. | 08:09 |
| rainemak | #topic General discussion (10 mins) | 08:10 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "General discussion (10 mins) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 27th March 2025)" | 08:10 | |
| dcaliste | Idle mails have been reworked. Hopefully it corrected some restaring issues… | 08:10 |
| ExTechOp | Are there are larger news regarding SFOS in general? | 08:10 |
| flypig | Thanks for all of your work on QMF. | 08:10 |
| flypig | Concerning QMF, I think I hit this recently. Is this a new thing and is there any way to work around it (e.g. editing the database): https://github.com/sailfishos/messagingframework/issues/22 | 08:11 |
| poetaster | yes, ditto. | 08:11 |
| rainemak | ExTechOp, not really. We cover Sailfish parts pretty well in previous fortnight newsletter: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfish-community-news-20th-march-2025-upgrade-jenga/22546 | 08:12 |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfish-community-news-20th-march-2025-upgrade-jenga/22546 | 08:12 |
| rainemak | We're working on the next update release -- next major release comes later. | 08:12 |
| poetaster | I could add that piggz[m] recent spate of updates to 5 on all vollas is a real tour-de-force. | 08:13 |
| poetaster | like having a new phone, tour-de-force. | 08:14 |
| piggz[m] | :) | 08:15 |
| flypig | Really nice to hear that poetaster and great work piggz[m]. | 08:15 |
| rainemak | flypig, and nice to follow your blog once again @ https://www.flypig.co.uk/newpipe | 08:16 |
| flypig | Thanks rainemak :) Trying to keep myself out of trouble. | 08:17 |
| piggz[m] | * 5 volla's, 4 pines and and an fxtec :D | 08:17 |
| rainemak | :) | 08:18 |
| rainemak | nice | 08:18 |
| flypig | Wow! | 08:18 |
| direc85[m] | That's impressive :) | 08:18 |
| poetaster | piggz[m], had me scratching my head. I thought I was the OCD guy :) | 08:18 |
| flypig | :D | 08:18 |
| piggz[m] | got 2 other new ports to start, but also need to implement my new watch in Amazfish ...the community was kind enough to fund a new wrist device for me! | 08:19 |
| poetaster | ah, cool. which one? | 08:19 |
| piggz[m] | Amazfit Balance .. im really liking it so far .. but support will come to most 'ZeppOS' devices | 08:20 |
| rainemak | Ah, one thing we have daylight saving time 30th March... not really affecting this one. Just saying. | 08:20 |
| ExTechOp | I see Pebble smartwatches are also being resurrected, there was a fairly large ecosystem around them - what's the SFOS support look like? | 08:20 |
| piggz[m] | also, other community member b100dian (vlad) is looking to contriute | 08:21 |
| direc85[m] | Which reminds me, I have my AsteroidOS watch in a drawer and I should try Sharship again https://github.com/AsteroidOS/starship | 08:21 |
| piggz[m] | ExTechOp: see abr 's rockpool | 08:21 |
| rainemak | 5 extra mins... General topic ending 25 past | 08:22 |
| flypig | How do the new pebvbles compare to all of these other smartwatches now? | 08:23 |
| piggz[m] | flypig: not sure ... theyre nice, but lack gps, which personally is a must for me | 08:23 |
| ExTechOp | From rockpool: "The following features are not yet implemented: Support for Pebble 2 watches. The new models only support Bluetooth Low Energy, and Pebble's BTLE protocol is not implemented in Rockpool." | 08:24 |
| direc85[m] | Apparently PebbleOS is now open source | 08:24 |
| dcaliste | flypig, I don't think there is a workaround for this at the moment. | 08:25 |
| piggz[m] | i wonder if anyone will port pebbleos to something like the pinetime | 08:25 |
| dcaliste | I think you'll have to remove by hand the "don't send" flag from the DB :/ | 08:25 |
| ExTechOp | At least this is better than the "default" setting of many mobile mail clients, just keep bashing the mail server with failed requests until your account gets locked :-D | 08:26 |
| rainemak | are we ready to schedule the next meeting | 08:26 |
| flypig | dcaliste, thanks for checking. I don't mind removing it from the DB manually, but I just wanted to make sure. I must admit it did confuse me why no attempt was being made to send them (according to the logs). | 08:26 |
| rainemak | ExTechOp, hah | 08:26 |
| flypig | So I'm glad you posted that issue dcaliste! | 08:26 |
| flypig | ExTechOp, yes, you make a good point. | 08:27 |
| rainemak | #topic Next meeting time and date (2 mins) | 08:28 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Next meeting time and date (2 mins) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 27th March 2025)" | 08:28 | |
| rainemak | roposing Thursday 10th April at 08:00am UTC | 08:28 |
| rainemak | Proposing Thursday 10th April at 08:00am UTC | 08:28 |
| rainemak | usual biweekly interval | 08:28 |
| ExTechOp | Works4me | 08:28 |
| direc85[m] | Isn't it summer time soon? | 08:29 |
| poetaster | sunday. | 08:29 |
| rainemak | 30th March | 08:29 |
| poetaster | direc85[m], do you not use the calendar!!! :) | 08:30 |
| poetaster | I'm off to build a drum machine ... happy hacking! | 08:31 |
| direc85[m] | Shouldn't it be 7am UTC? Or am I mistaken? | 08:31 |
| rainemak | yeap, 7am utc | 08:31 |
| ExTechOp | Should the meeting then be at a different UT time? | 08:31 |
| rainemak | Proposing Thursday 10th April at 07:00am UTC | 08:31 |
| rainemak | like the same slot | 08:31 |
| ExTechOp | Yep, so 10:00 EET/DST | 08:32 |
| rainemak | #info Next meeting will be held on Thursday 10th April 2025 at 07:00am UTC: 2025-04-10T0700Z | 08:32 |
| direc85[m] | 10 EST I think | 08:32 |
| rainemak | thanks all | 08:32 |
| rainemak | #endmeeting | 08:32 |
| sailbot | Meeting ended Thu Mar 27 08:32:33 2025 UTC. | 08:32 |
| sailbot | Minutes: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2025/sailfishos-meeting.2025-03-27-08.00.html | 08:32 |
| sailbot | Minutes (text): https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2025/sailfishos-meeting.2025-03-27-08.00.txt | 08:32 |
| sailbot | Log: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2025/sailfishos-meeting.2025-03-27-08.00.log.html | 08:32 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Next meeting will be held on Thursday 27th March 2025 at 08:00am UTC: 2025-03-27T0800Z" | 08:32 | |
| direc85[m] | Thanks all! | 08:32 |
| ViGe | thanks! | 08:32 |
| ExTechOp | Thanks everyone! | 08:33 |
| dcaliste | flypig, don't hesitate to comment on the Github issue if you have trouble finding what to delete from the DB. Besides, I'm keeping this issue opened so it remind me to find a better solution than banning failing emails, and how it can be recovered when banned. | 08:36 |
| dcaliste | Maybe with a visual signal in the UI that sending is blocked and waiting for a user action to be unblocked. Whatever. | 08:36 |
| dcaliste | But indeed for the moment it took me quite a time to understand what happened when it occured to me. | 08:37 |
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