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| rainemak | #startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 3rd July 2025 | 16:00 |
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| rainemak | #info Meeting information and agenda can be found here: | 16:00 |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-3rd-july-2025-new-time-slot/23565 | 16:00 |
| rainemak | I am the meeting's chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please respect the timings and bee-hive. | 16:00 |
| rainemak | #topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info | 16:00 |
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| AffeNull[m] | #info Affe Null, community | 16:01 |
| jojomen | #info jojomen, community | 16:01 |
| jojomen | good evening! | 16:02 |
| rainemak | #info Raine Mäkeläinen, Jolla | 16:02 |
| jojomen | Thanks for yesterday's event and for dealing with all the häslinki | 16:02 |
| rainemak | at the end it was a great one | 16:03 |
| rainemak | We have three topics today. | 16:03 |
| nephros | #info nephros, community | 16:04 |
| CLMA31[m] | #info CLMA31, community | 16:04 |
| nephros | hello! | 16:04 |
| rainemak | hello | 16:04 |
| CLMA31[m] | Hello! | 16:04 |
| rainemak | let's start with the first one | 16:05 |
| rainemak | #topic [C2] System update: Very low backlight when prompted for encryption code (5 mins -- jojomen) | 16:05 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "[C2] System update: Very low backlight when prompted for encryption code (5 mins -- jojomen) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 3rd July 2025)" | 16:05 | |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/c2-system-update-very-low-backlight-when-prompted-for-encryption-code/23528 | 16:05 |
| rainemak | #info <jojomen> On first boot into the update process, the keypad for entering | 16:05 |
| rainemak | #info <jojomen> the passcode is barely visible since backlight is very low. | 16:05 |
| rainemak | #info <jojomen> Second boot back into the updated system happens with reasonable | 16:05 |
| rainemak | #info <jojomen> backlight level. Others have mentioned the same happening on | 16:05 |
| rainemak | #info <jojomen> other devices and releases than the C2 with 5.0.0. | 16:05 |
| rainemak | #info <jojomen> | 16:05 |
| rainemak | #info <jojomen> @nephros commented: | 16:05 |
| rainemak | #info <jojomen> I believe it’s common to see this when the device went down with | 16:05 |
| rainemak | #info <jojomen> empty battery, probably because Power Saver Mode set the display | 16:05 |
| rainemak | #info <jojomen> to low brightness, and that sticks. | 16:05 |
| rainemak | #info <jojomen> | 16:05 |
| rainemak | #info <jojomen> Q: Preparing for the next update, is there a way we could check | 16:05 |
| rainemak | #info <jojomen> this theory? Like a file where this is persisted across boots | 16:05 |
| rainemak | #info <jojomen> that one could look at, and maybe poke a little? Or anything #info <jojomen> else one could try to diagnose this problem? | 16:05 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> There are different conditions that are affecting to the backlight | 16:05 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> strength. One may have adaptive display dimming enabled (and als), | 16:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> shorter display dimming time out or just manually adjusted lower | 16:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> brightness to name few. | 16:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> | 16:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> You could also try to reset default values for mce. | 16:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> > ssh to device | 16:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> > devel-su mcetool --reset-settings | 16:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> | 16:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> Values that are adjusted via mce are persisted across boots. | 16:06 |
| jojomen | ok, will have to look into those. | 16:06 |
| jojomen | in my case, I definitely had a good level of background light when I started the update | 16:07 |
| rainemak | I rebooted my device few times with different configuration values and didn't see dimmed unlock screen (the black one) | 16:07 |
| jojomen | it was only on first reboot that backlight went way down | 16:07 |
| nephros | Hm. Maybe the decryption key prompt screen should set a brightness always? Say, 80%? | 16:07 |
| jojomen | sounds good? i think | 16:07 |
| jojomen | except maybe when device is forgotten and linger on the encryption prompt, that could be bad | 16:08 |
| rainemak | nephros, personally I don't like idea that software (even system sw) changes user configurations | 16:08 |
| jojomen | otoh, wasnät that fixed by setting a timeout? | 16:08 |
| rainemak | jojomen, you can also play with mcetool directly | 16:09 |
| nephros | rainemak: true in general, but this is the first interactive UI after the device was (usually) off, so it's bound to not match the users environment... | 16:09 |
| CLMA31[m] | Could it changes the user configurations only until let's say person unlock phone or something similar? | 16:09 |
| jojomen | @rainemak, in my case the _impression_ is that the device sets a very low value. It doesn't respect the user setting... | 16:09 |
| rainemak | it comes from mce-tools package | 16:10 |
| jojomen | ok, mcetool it is :) will check and poke values the next time | 16:10 |
| rainemak | nephros, what do you mean? mce is up and running and it controls the display dimming etc | 16:11 |
| jojomen | problem is, of course, knowing if I have fixed the problem or have just been lucky - at least one update went well = good backlight | 16:11 |
| rainemak | jojomen, you mean that it only happened after an update | 16:12 |
| jojomen | also, in the forum thread it seemed like people have experienced this for a long time and with various devices | 16:12 |
| rainemak | jojomen, now out of my head, I cannot recall whether there were some mce configuration related changes | 16:12 |
| rainemak | point taken | 16:12 |
| rainemak | This sounds like a covered topic | 16:13 |
| jojomen | @rainemak, yes I have only seen it happen on update (1st reboot) on the C2. And only occasionally | 16:13 |
| jojomen | yes, covered | 16:13 |
| nephros | In my case, I think, it's actually power saving mode thats persisted, and that lowers the brightness on lock screen. | 16:13 |
| rainemak | jojomen, let's keep an eye on it | 16:13 |
| jojomen | will look into this on next update and revive topic as needed ;) | 16:14 |
| nephros | ok | 16:14 |
| rainemak | #topic ETA regarding Xperia 10V support (5 mins -- louisdk) | 16:14 |
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| rainemak | #info <louisdk> Is “full” Xperia 10V support in sight for SailfishOS 5.1 or do | 16:14 |
| rainemak | #info <louisdk> you have any ETA in sight for it? | 16:14 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> It sounds that you're seeking for an update for VoLTE, GPS, NFC, | 16:15 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> sensors status. We are happy to report some progress on HIDL -> | 16:15 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> AIDL changes. One remaining to fix is the VoLTE HIDL -> AIDL | 16:15 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> changes. To be noted that AppSupport is already available for | 16:15 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> Xperia 10 IV and 10 V. We have not yet branched 5.1 and branching | 16:15 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> shall take place after summer vacation period. It's yet to be seen | 16:15 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> whether we have VoLTE fixed by Sailfish OS 5.1 release. It should | 16:15 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> not be an issue to have fixes integrated for 5.1 update release | 16:15 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> after the first release. | 16:15 |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/enabling-appsupport-for-sony-xperia-10-iv-and-10-v/22541 | 16:15 |
| rainemak | and the battery status reporting was fixed already earlier | 16:16 |
| jojomen | good to hear that you are making progress | 16:18 |
| jojomen | what implications do these HIDL -> AIDL changes have for the AAS level on other devices? | 16:18 |
| nephros | See also: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/logs/%23sailfishos-porters/2025/%23sailfishos-porters.2025-07-01.log.html | 16:18 |
| rainemak | For AAS nothing | 16:18 |
| jojomen | i.e. is that something that might benefit older, still supported devices? | 16:19 |
| rainemak | #link https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/logs/%23sailfishos-porters/2025/%23sailfishos-porters.2025-07-01.log.html | 16:19 |
| jojomen | ah, ok, on of the other androids in my phone :D | 16:19 |
| jojomen | on -> one | 16:19 |
| rainemak | In newer Android BSP versions more and more are AIDL interfaces | 16:20 |
| jojomen | any potential benefit to devices that could be install over, or use binaries from, a newer android? | 16:20 |
| rainemak | it doesn't mean that | 16:20 |
| jojomen | ok | 16:22 |
| rainemak | with a newer devices that has newer Android BSP version against which Sailfish adaptation is built... that process can be simpler as work has now been done in context of Xperia 10 IV and 10 V (at least partially). | 16:22 |
| jojomen | nice! | 16:23 |
| rainemak | future will tell... adaptation work takes always time still. | 16:24 |
| rainemak | let's move on | 16:24 |
| jojomen | yeah, phones seem more like embedded systems than "real computers"... | 16:24 |
| rainemak | #topic Summary of announcements from the Community Meeting on 2nd July. (10 mins -- David Llewellyn-Jones/@flypig) | 16:25 |
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| rainemak | #info <flypig> After joining the meeting late I unfortunately missed the | 16:25 |
| rainemak | #info <flypig> presentation at the start. The following discussion was really | 16:25 |
| rainemak | #info <flypig> interesting and enjoyable to hear, but I’m keen to know what | 16:25 |
| rainemak | #info <flypig> topics were covered during the presentation. Would it be possible | 16:25 |
| rainemak | #info <flypig> to have a brief recap of the main announcements around Jolla, | 16:25 |
| rainemak | #info <flypig> Sailfish OS, C2 and M2 from the meeting? | 16:25 |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/jolla-community-meeting-live-stream-2nd-july-from-tampere/23493 | 16:25 |
| CLMA31[m] | Side question as AAS was mentioned: is it planned that Android version and API level will at some point catch up and use the latest available version? Is there timetable? | 16:25 |
| rainemak | CLMA31[m], I don't have such time table | 16:26 |
| rainemak | frankly I believe AAS is easily version or two versions behind | 16:26 |
| rainemak | Let's have an open discussion here. | 16:26 |
| rainemak | First of all, thank you for all attendees. Plevna worked perfectly as a venue and it was very nice to see and hear vivid and lively discussions. We should defenitely organize community events every now and then. | 16:26 |
| Nico | Oh, summary sounds good! | 16:27 |
| jojomen | walked by Plevna a couple of years ago, seemed like a nice enough place | 16:27 |
| rainemak | We're working on a recording from the event. | 16:27 |
| CLMA31[m] | Definitely! It was amazing opportunity to participate in person and it was great to see so many others :) | 16:27 |
| Nico | rainemak, even better! | 16:27 |
| flypig | I was really sad I couldn't attend... seeing Plevna brought back memories. | 16:27 |
| jojomen | would have loved to be able to join in person | 16:28 |
| CLMA31[m] | Hopefully these kind of event will be organized more often | 16:28 |
| Nico | Yeah, I got stuck tearing up a ceiling and noticed the time only way too late | 16:28 |
| rainemak | We said that it takes a day to prepare but it could well be that it slips to tomorrow | 16:28 |
| Nico | CLMA31, there is always FOSDEM dinner | 16:28 |
| CLMA31[m] | The hassle didn't bother at all with the cold beer in hand | 16:28 |
| rainemak | CLMA31[m], I think we should offer more frequently | 16:28 |
| Nico | I can wait for the recording until the weekend :) | 16:29 |
| CLMA31[m] | FOSDEM is hosted somewhere in Europe if I am not mistaken? | 16:29 |
| jojomen | i realize there's quite a bit of prep and adm time before and after, but a couple such events per year would be nice | 16:29 |
| flypig | CLMA31[m]: Yes, Brussels. | 16:29 |
| jojomen | CLMA31[m]: yes, Brussels early February each year | 16:30 |
| jojomen | sorry, got to go, other things happening | 16:31 |
| jojomen | thanks everyone! | 16:31 |
| nephros | Attending remotely also worked fine enough (after a while). But many community members would prefer a different platform than Zoom (and Youtube) in the future. | 16:31 |
| CLMA31[m] | <rainemak> "CLMA31, I don't have such time..." <- Thank you for the honesty! I understand that it is quite resource intensive trying to keep up with the latest releases. Only one aspect that would make the AAS even better. One release behind isn't that bad tho | 16:31 |
| CLMA31[m] | I have never been in Brussels, have to take look of that! Thank you for the tip <3 | 16:32 |
| jojomen | i agree with nephros on that, at least I would like to see videos etc available on betterplatforms even if yt or zoom is necessary for the event | 16:32 |
| rainemak | Super brief recap | 16:35 |
| rainemak | - Antti discussed about route to Mind2 Beta & showed a demo | 16:35 |
| rainemak | - A Sailfish mobile app will be created as an activity together with the community | 16:35 |
| rainemak | - Open sourcing plan first steps - approval from the board | 16:35 |
| rainemak | That Sailfish mobile app would be an app to access Mind2 | 16:35 |
| Nico | Ohhhh! | 16:36 |
| Nico | Sounds all pretty exciting | 16:36 |
| Nico | I really missed out! | 16:36 |
| flypig | This is a great recap; thank you rainemak! | 16:36 |
| rainemak | flypig, I guess this covers also this topic then | 16:37 |
| flypig | I feel the same way Nico :) | 16:37 |
| CLMA31[m] | One thing I don't remember hearing yesterday, will there also be app for Android/IOS? I assume that first app will be native SFOS | 16:37 |
| Nico | It is a recap that makes me even more curious though :3 | 16:37 |
| flypig | rainemak, it does, thank you. | 16:37 |
| nephros | I like the "accounts" thing on the Open-sourcing components list. Hopefully Nextcloud can be extended, and other libsocial things added. | 16:38 |
| rainemak | Yeah, there's an electron based mobile app coming for multiple platforms | 16:38 |
| nephros | I also have some ideas about Gallery. | 16:38 |
| flypig | nephros, which list is that? | 16:38 |
| nephros | flypig: it's in the presentation. | 16:38 |
| flypig | Thanks nephros... I'll await the video! | 16:38 |
| rainemak | let me sum up that as well | 16:38 |
| nephros | I have this telegram link for now: https://t.me/c/1094603738/257325 | 16:39 |
| rainemak | Phase 1 - Q3/25 | 16:39 |
| rainemak | - Selected components to help device porting | 16:39 |
| rainemak | - Device encryption components | 16:39 |
| rainemak | - Accounts plug-ins, excluding Microsoft 365 | 16:39 |
| rainemak | - Device side MDM API | 16:39 |
| rainemak | - Camera & Gallery apps | 16:39 |
| rainemak | - The (in)famous Weather app | 16:39 |
| rainemak | - Notes app | 16:39 |
| rainemak | Phase 2 - Q4/25 and forward | 16:39 |
| rainemak | - Based on phase 1, feedback and areas of interest & activity | 16:39 |
| nephros | Ah yea, there is is. Thanks Raine! | 16:40 |
| rainemak | The input from 1st phase is used for steering phase 2. Also interest and activity matters. | 16:40 |
| flypig | Thanks again rainemak. So the message is: build on the open source, and that'll encourage you to open source even more? | 16:41 |
| rainemak | nephros, and Weather has been requested and worked by community already | 16:41 |
| flypig | Or maybe I should put it another way: the things that get the most interest will inform which other parts may be opened up. | 16:41 |
| Nico | My dad always bugs me about the weather widget not working, maybe now I can fix that... | 16:42 |
| rainemak | flypig, something like that and to be able selected the right components for the 2nd phase. Surely, we have already ideas of them | 16:42 |
| rainemak | flypig, correct | 16:42 |
| flypig | Got it; thanks rainemak! | 16:42 |
| rainemak | let's continue this in general topic a bit later... if still needed. | 16:43 |
| flypig | I agree with you nephros, the Accounts plug-in would be great to do some work with. I'm interested in the MDM part too. | 16:43 |
| flypig | This is very exciting; thanks rainemak. | 16:43 |
| rainemak | let's steal 5min more for this | 16:43 |
| rainemak | 5mins | 16:43 |
| nephros | About the Mind2 app: So I guess there will be some public API spec? | 16:45 |
| rainemak | flypig, accounts plugins is fine one... also something that we could do together owncloud plugin or have owncloud as part of nextcloud plugin | 16:45 |
| rainemak | nephros, yes, API is needed indeed | 16:45 |
| flypig | rainemak, yes, plus nextcloud has so much functionality, it would be great to extend the plugin further. | 16:46 |
| nephros | I have a "Show Github notifications on Event View" hack, but the acounts part was missing until now so I couldn't release it. | 16:46 |
| rainemak | if I have understood it right nextcloud and owncloud are pretty similar | 16:46 |
| flypig | Yes, at one point they were "identical" and I upgraded my owncloud instance to nextcloud, but that was a while ago and maybe they diverged since. | 16:47 |
| nephros | nextcloud: in the core both just do DAV. But with the different apps come additional APIs. | 16:47 |
| rainemak | also this camera and gallery combo and if you put that into context of advanced camera and camera api2 => let's built together a great camera app | 16:47 |
| nephros | ... with image enhancement through Mind2! | 16:48 |
| flypig | There's already plenty of expertise in the community for the camera app :) | 16:48 |
| rainemak | nephros, :-) | 16:48 |
| rainemak | flypig, indeed | 16:48 |
| mal | about camera, the qt camera api is in some ways a bit limited so maybe we could consider a new wrapper api | 16:48 |
| rainemak | mal, that could even simply the implementation in general | 16:48 |
| mal | yes, probably would be easier to handle everything | 16:49 |
| rainemak | those qt mobility like apis (APIs from that era) are not that good | 16:49 |
| nephros | mal: choose whatever Pipewire needs to support cameras on SFOS! :) | 16:49 |
| mal | and support different low level camera things like gst-droid vs libcamera | 16:49 |
| AffeNull[m] | yes, it would be great if we could integrate libcamera | 16:49 |
| mal | I have some mainline kernel based test builds which I can use for testing | 16:50 |
| mal | piggz already uses libcamera on some devices | 16:50 |
| flypig | What does Advanced Camera do? | 16:51 |
| rainemak | that's also from piggz I think | 16:51 |
| rainemak | I think all sort of things | 16:51 |
| rainemak | :-) | 16:51 |
| piggz[m] | advanced camera is using the normal camera stack, but exposes all controls to the user | 16:51 |
| flypig | https://openrepos.net/content/piggz/advanced-camera | 16:51 |
| mal | I think it uses regular things, shutter app uses libcamera https://github.com/piggz/harbour-shutter | 16:52 |
| flypig | https://github.com/piggz/harbour-shutter | 16:52 |
| flypig | (just putting it on its own line) | 16:53 |
| piggz[m] | shutter is very much WIP, uses libcamera, exposing those controls to the user depending on how libcamera handles the actual camera sensor | 16:53 |
| flypig | (old habits...) | 16:53 |
| rainemak | let's move on to PR discussion | 16:53 |
| rainemak | #topic Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla) | 16:53 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 3rd July 2025)" | 16:53 | |
| rainemak | I don't have any | 16:54 |
| nephros | not a PR yet, but have you had time to look at this? Shall I make a PR? | 16:54 |
| nephros | https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/webview-webengine-cors-headers-and-file-loading-in-sfos-4-4/10742/21?u=nephros | 16:54 |
| rainemak | nephros, sorry... I was on my mind other weekend but then something else popped up | 16:54 |
| nephros | No worries at all. It's not important. | 16:55 |
| rainemak | thanks for reminding | 16:56 |
| flypig | Could you summarise the purpose nephros? I couldn't quite get it from skimming the forum thread. | 16:56 |
| flypig | Is it about correctly setting CORS headers with the WebView? | 16:57 |
| rainemak | we're going a bit over time... not an issue for me | 16:58 |
| CLMA31[m] | https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-3rd-july-2025-new-time-slot/23565/5?u=clma31 | 16:58 |
| CLMA31[m] | Was this topic already covered and I just missed it? Could very well be and I want to apologize in advance if that is the case | 16:59 |
| mal | let's talk about beacondb in general discussion | 16:59 |
| rainemak | CLMA31[m], sorry missed that... | 17:00 |
| rainemak | mal, +1 | 17:00 |
| CLMA31[m] | Mal, +1 | 17:00 |
| nephros | flypig: I load a HTML file (not an URL) into WebView. That HTML has images (either file:// ot just relative URLs). Those images can not be loaded, no matter what kind of CORD things you enable or disable. | 17:00 |
| rainemak | nephros, flypig : I guess we have covered this cors - need to give a look to that example | 17:00 |
| nephros | Yeah, the example should show it nicely. | 17:01 |
| CLMA31[m] | [@rainemak:matrix.org](https://matrix.to/#/@rainemak:matrix.org) no worries! I placed the topic very late | 17:01 |
| rainemak | moving to general | 17:02 |
| rainemak | #topic General discussion (10 mins) | 17:02 |
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| rainemak | #info BeaconDB usage in Sailfish | 17:02 |
| rainemak | mal, floor is yours | 17:02 |
| flypig | nephros, rainemak, thanks, yes, I understand now from that. Thank you! | 17:02 |
| rainemak | CLMA31[m], that app was for collecting afair | 17:03 |
| mal | the change to allow configuring api location and key doesn't seem to be yet in 5.0 so to use beacondb one package needs to be built and then a suitable configuration file added | 17:04 |
| rainemak | for enabling BeaconDB as an A-GPS option we should at least have a greeting somewhere in the Settings -> About product | 17:04 |
| rainemak | mal, but having those changes in 5.0 could be an option I think | 17:05 |
| mal | rainemak: I think for 5.1 we should change beacondb to be the default | 17:05 |
| rainemak | mal, that's true | 17:05 |
| mal | I understood it should be fine | 17:05 |
| mal | I can make a PR for that already | 17:06 |
| rainemak | that's nice | 17:06 |
| CLMA31[m] | [@rainemak:matrix.org](https://matrix.to/#/@rainemak:matrix.org) yes to my understanding also the app is for collecting data | 17:06 |
| rainemak | I think that we do still one 5.0 update | 17:06 |
| rainemak | before 5.1 | 17:07 |
| mal | for testing beacondb in 5.0 at the moment this needs to be built https://github.com/mer-hybris/geoclue-providers-mlsdb | 17:07 |
| mal | and need to find where the configuration file instructions were | 17:07 |
| nephros | For collecting & submitting to BeaconDB, it would be nice to have a background service you can toggle. | 17:08 |
| CLMA31[m] | Thank you for the information! If someone had missed it, I have zero software understanding and I just wanted to raise this question as better GPS would be amazing. For me personally it doesn't matter how it is achieved | 17:08 |
| nephros | CLMA31[m]: Have a look at https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/use-beacondb-as-online-positioning-service/22761/24?u=nephros | 17:08 |
| mal | https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/use-beacondb-as-online-positioning-service/22761/4 | 17:08 |
| nephros | ^^ :D | 17:09 |
| rainemak | nephros, if we do it as a background service then we would not need to worry about store things either | 17:09 |
| CLMA31[m] | Yes I have read the thread. But understood like 50% | 17:09 |
| nephros | rainemak: there's ready-to-backport code in some examples of - I think - geoclue2 | 17:10 |
| mal | nephros: I did investigate how to get the needed info in sfos but had some issues with telephone side that it only gave needed info for the actively used cell tower which seem not good | 17:10 |
| rainemak | but good CLMA31[m] that you're bringing your input to the discussion | 17:10 |
| nephros | mal: I have found the same in LiveTrac, yes. | 17:10 |
| nephros | mal: That seems to be a regression though, on my 4.4 device it works. | 17:11 |
| rainemak | It sounds that beacondb is covered | 17:12 |
| rainemak | let's schedule a next meeting | 17:12 |
| CLMA31[m] | Yes, thank you for the info! | 17:12 |
| rainemak | #topic Next meeting time and date (5 mins) | 17:12 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Next meeting time and date (5 mins) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 3rd July 2025)" | 17:12 | |
| rainemak | We're heading to summer vacation break and the next newsletter would go out 7th August. So, proposing that the next IRC meeting whould take place after that. | 17:13 |
| rainemak | how does that sound like? | 17:14 |
| rainemak | Proposing Thursday 14th August at 04:00 PM UTC ? | 17:14 |
| flypig | That sounds good to me. You all deserve a good summer break! | 17:14 |
| CLMA31[m] | Sounds good, you all have deserved good summer vacation! | 17:14 |
| rainemak | let that be settled then | 17:15 |
| rainemak | #info Next meeting will be held on Thursday 14th August 2025 at 04:00pm UTC: 2025-08-14T1600Z | 17:15 |
| rainemak | thank you all and enjoy the summer! | 17:15 |
| rainemak | see you in August | 17:15 |
| flypig | Thank you rainemak and everyone! Enjoy your summer too :) | 17:15 |
| CLMA31[m] | One more time, thank you of yesterday and thank you for information provided today | 17:15 |
| rainemak | Welcome | 17:16 |
| CLMA31[m] | I hope everyone have a great summer! | 17:16 |
| rainemak | #endmeeting | 17:16 |
| sailbot | Meeting ended Thu Jul 3 17:16:36 2025 UTC. | 17:16 |
| sailbot | Minutes: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2025/sailfishos-meeting.2025-07-03-16.00.html | 17:16 |
| sailbot | Minutes (text): https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2025/sailfishos-meeting.2025-07-03-16.00.txt | 17:16 |
| sailbot | Log: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2025/sailfishos-meeting.2025-07-03-16.00.log.html | 17:16 |
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