Thursday, 2025-11-06

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rainemak#startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 6th November 202516:00
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rainemak#info Meeting information and agenda can be found here:16:00
rainemak#link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/2525416:00
rainemakI am the meeting's chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please respect the timings and bee-hive.16:00
rainemak#topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info16:00
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rainemak#info Raine Mäkeläinen, Jolla16:00
nephros#info Peter G., Community16:00
ExTechOpHello everyone!16:01
nephrosGood evening! :)16:01
ExTechOp#info Otto Mäkelä, community16:01
rainemakGood evening all!16:01
direc85[m]#info Matti Viljanen, Jolla16:01
mal#info mal, Jolla16:01
rainemakWe have again five nice topics. Please keep on asking and raising topics on forum.16:02
legacychimera247#info 247, community member16:03
legacychimera247hello all16:03
rainemakAgain, I took a bit of liberty to adjust expected/requested time needed for some topics.16:03
rainemaklegacychimera247, hello and welcome16:04
rainemaklet's get started16:04
rainemak#topic Jolla C2 order backlog (5 mins -- frankps)16:05
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rainemak#info <frankps> Could Jolla give us an update on the backlog situation? Estimated16:05
rainemak#info <frankps> shipping time October 1st was 6-8 weeks. Where are we now? When #info <frankps> will you start shipping out ordered devices?16:05
rainemak#info <Jolla> This is covered by https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/2542016:05
rainemak#info <Jolla>16:05
rainemak#info <Jolla> A manufacturing slot for the next production batch Q4/25 of Jolla16:05
rainemak#info <Jolla> C2 has been confirmed to take place at the week Nov 17, 2025.16:05
rainemak#info <Jolla> Following from there we should be able to continue shipments by the16:05
rainemak#info <Jolla> end of November.16:05
rainemak#info <Jolla>16:05
rainemak#info <Jolla> Let’s have open discussion.16:05
rainemak#link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/2542016:05
ExTechOpYou could also summarize: approximately how large a back log is there, ie. if one were to order today, what batch would it end up in and approximately when is delivery?16:06
rainemakExTechOp, there are still devices left in this batch.16:07
rainemakWhen going forward we do want put for each batch some sort of a name. Like with this we're calling this Q4/25 rather than 3rd.16:08
rainemakIt's easier for us as well.16:08
rainemakhello dcaliste16:08
rainemakAny other questions? Did I cover ExTechOp yours?16:09
dcalisteHello rainemak and everyone, sorry to be late.16:09
ExTechOpThanks, that covers it.16:09
rainemakThanks, time to move on.16:09
rainemak#topic GTK support (10 mins -- pherjung)16:10
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rainemak#info <pherjung> The Librem 5 supports an increasing number of GTK apps. While16:10
rainemak#info <pherjung> they do not adhere to Sailfish OS UI/UX guidelines, they are16:10
rainemak#info <pherjung> Linux apps and would increase the number of apps available on16:10
rainemak#info <pherjung> Sailfish OS. Are there any plans to support GTK, and how much16:10
rainemak#info <pherjung> effort would it take?16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla> Thank for this good question. Sorry for the long answer.16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla>16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla> The problem behind the scene is that we’re lacking xdg-shell16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla> support from Qt. Thus, also from our compositor (lipstick).16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla> Implementing xdg-shell support would be a good starting point and16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla> then we should have means to support other toolkits than Qt for app16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla> development.16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla>16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla> Some years back we started a project to split homescreen (lipstick)16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla> properly to a homescreen and a wayland compositor. Why to split?16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla> Mostly due to robustness and performance. Composition and gestures16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla> should never stall. Also freezes or crashes on homescreen should16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla> not affect to the other applications. Eventually this project16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla> didn’t materialize. With this project we could have received also16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla> xdg-shell support.16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla>16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla> We should try to think out-of-the-box, try to find other possible16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla> solutions and use existing projects when possible. Then comes16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla> projects like Weston. A Wayland compositor that is broadly used.16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla> Thus, it would have more developers working on it when comparing to16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla> us (Jolla & Sailfish Community).16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla>16:10
rainemak#info <Jolla> Conceptually we could have a Weston compositor and the “current”16:11
rainemak#info <Jolla> homescreen as a wayland client (an app among the other apps). On16:11
rainemak#info <Jolla> the compositor side we should deal for example window management,16:11
rainemak#info <Jolla> shell, gestures and effects with very limited dependencies. Surely,16:11
rainemak#info <Jolla> there are also things like text input support.16:11
rainemak#info <Jolla>16:11
rainemak#info <Jolla> If all this would happen, then we should also be very close to a16:11
rainemak#info <Jolla> situation where we actually could have support for other toolkits16:11
rainemak#info <Jolla> (easily or relatively easily) for example for GTK. Surely, changing16:11
rainemak#info <Jolla> compositor architecture would be most bigger task than implementing16:11
rainemak#info <Jolla> xdg-shell support for the current compositor.16:11
rainemakWe're using deprecated wl_shell instead of xdg-shell16:11
rainemak#link https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston16:11
dcalisteMmh, very nice answer. Was the attempted spliting based on Weston for the compositor part ?16:13
rainemakdcaliste, more like a yet another not invented here.16:14
dcalisteWhat made it stop ? Technical difficulties to separate Lipstick homescreen from compositor ? Or simply lack of time ?16:14
dodoradio[m]#info dodoradio, community/asteroidos16:15
rainemakdcaliste, simply lack of time and get it to a production level16:15
dodoradio[m]hi, we've had a lot of this discussions about getting off lipstick on asteroidos. it's just really hard16:15
dodoradio[m]kwin, the obvious choice for qt based distro (though not obvious for jolla due to licensing) doesn't support hybris backend any more16:16
nephrosWayland aside, I guess getting GTK (and probably related libraries like things from GNOME) running would also mean getting a long tail of dependencies first.16:16
rainemakdcaliste, also as a retrospective, I think we had too high target setting.16:16
dodoradio[m]and there's few other options with qt bindings16:16
dodoradio[m]just the code involved in switching from lipstick to something else is a massive commitment, even ignoring all the other needs16:17
rainemaknephros, correct but it should still be without X11.. like GTK with Wayland only16:17
dcalisteCould lipstick be simply a client while having to display content of other clients ? (I'm showing my ignorance on wayland composition here)16:17
rainemaksurely, that's not visible for app developers16:17
rainemakdcaliste, it something like that indeed... we had sailfish-compositor and sailfish-homescreen16:17
rainemakI think you can guess what is what16:18
dcalisteOk, I guess the homescreen part is having some privileges to get access to the other client content.16:18
dcalisteDo you think the homescreen part could work as a poc over weston ?16:19
rainemakdcaliste, not really needed. I could end up being from compositor point of view just an app that launches other apps16:20
dcalisteAh I see, indeed.16:20
rainemakdcaliste, defined level PoC... to some degree yes16:20
rainemakgestures, effects, appsupport addition at least should be taken into account16:21
dcalisteAs poc I mean, running Weston on device and display a full screen window of a wayland app, run from the CLI.16:21
rainemak^ and those are probably there tricky ones16:21
rainemakdcaliste, one of our devs almost have it :-) but it doesn't completely work yet16:22
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rainemakdone as a hoppy project16:22
nephrosah so like craft beer! :P16:23
dcalisteWould it make sense to open source this hobby project ? It's not necessary mean to replace anything soon, but it could be run and improved communally.16:23
roundedrectanglhi, sorry, i am late, but wouldn't something similar to qt runner work for running gtk apps?16:23
rainemaknephros, sorry... hobby16:23
rainemaknephros, but yes, like a draft beer16:24
nephrosroundedrectangl: AFAIK also qt-runner is limited by wl_shell features.16:24
rainemakthing is that adding xdg-shell support to Qt from scratch is not necessary that big of an effort.16:26
dcalisterauinemak, yeh, but it means yet another implementation used only in Sailfish… does it not ?16:27
dcalisterainemak, sorry…16:27
rainemakdcaliste, defined protocol is still like a defacto nowadays16:28
rainemakI think we have quite thoroughly covered this one. let's move on 30mins past.16:29
malit would just be about implementing the protocol in our current Qt version, well not even full implementation but updating the implementation to current xdg-shell version16:29
rainemak+116:29
pherjung[m]#info pherjung, community16:29
rainemakmal, thanks for the additions16:29
malQt 5.6 supports some old unstable xdg-shell version16:30
abrIt's also something that's already present in later Qt versions though, right?16:30
nephrosthis would also enable a couple of other software, like SDL2 and3 not needing backport patches any more.16:30
pherjung[m]Hi! I found some time to be present :)16:30
pherjung[m]There this project: https://openrepos.net/content/artur/newcompositor16:30
dcalisteIt's currently in QtWayland, or am I mistaken ?16:30
rainemaknephros, correct that as well16:30
pherjung[m]no clue if it works or if it's totally off-topic16:30
malyes, newer Qt supports current xdg-shell protocol version16:30
rainemakgoing a bit over16:31
rainemakhave we covered this one or do you want a bit more time still?16:32
rainemaklet's move on16:32
rainemak#topic Sony Xperia 10 IV/V port status (10mins -- ExTechOp)16:32
rainemak#info <ExTechOp> A functional Sony device port has now been “real soon now” since16:32
rainemak#info <ExTechOp> Love Day 2 in August 2024, but they still suffer from serious16:32
rainemak#info <ExTechOp> issues because of Sony binary blobs. Also, a Jolla announcement16:32
rainemak#info <ExTechOp> on the status of the Sony devices port has now been teased for16:32
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rainemak#info <ExTechOp> months, but even this hasn’t materialized. This is just getting16:32
rainemak#info <ExTechOp> embarrassing. Please put out an official statement outlining16:32
rainemak#info <ExTechOp> some kind of time scale when things will begin to happen, or16:32
rainemak#info <ExTechOp> just admit it’s never happening. If all this fails, at least16:32
rainemak#info <ExTechOp> give a time scale when you’ll be able to clarify things.16:32
rainemak#info <Jolla> We fully acknowledge, we have promised to deliver Sailfish to16:32
rainemak#info <Jolla> Xperia 10 IV/V and we remain committed to do our part with it as16:32
rainemak#info <Jolla> far it takes and what can be feasibly done by us. By far, not all16:32
rainemak#info <Jolla> can be done by us and with the currently chosen approach there has16:32
rainemak#info <Jolla> been several unexpected up and downs in this project e.g. with the16:32
rainemak#info <Jolla> vendor blobs: there has been blocker issues with battery indication16:32
rainemak#info <Jolla> missing, camera not working, VoLTE not working and fingerprint16:32
rainemak#info <Jolla> missing.16:33
rainemak#info <Jolla>16:33
rainemak#info <Jolla> Maybe we have totally wrong approach with the adaptation software16:33
rainemak#info <Jolla> of this particular device project? Maybe it shouldn’t be done16:33
rainemak#info <Jolla> primarily by Jolla and using the Open Device Program vendor blobs?16:33
rainemak#info <Jolla>16:33
rainemak#info <Jolla> We have also been thinking about completely different approaches by16:33
rainemak#info <Jolla> enabling this thru an “officially supported community port” -16:33
rainemak#info <Jolla> community port and we enable AppSupport to it – would that work for16:33
rainemak#info <Jolla> the community?16:33
rainemak#info <Jolla>16:33
rainemak#info <Jolla> What is the definition of done in this project? What do you think16:33
rainemak#info <Jolla> should be done to call it ready for the expected use?16:33
rainemak#info <Jolla>16:33
rainemak#info <Jolla> E.g. fingerprint – won’t be done, other examples?16:33
legacychimera247i would say, the definition of done is when you have the same level of usability you got with the xa216:36
rainemakExTechOp, comments?16:36
rainemaklegacychimera247, that won't happen16:36
ExTechOpThe way the Sony binary blobs work for Open Device Program is not totally clear to me, did I understand correctly that they are totally separate from the stuff Android installations use?16:36
legacychimera247i'll be honest, not blaming jolla cause i know blobs are from sony, but my xa2 is getting quite old and i'm a little bit scared of replacing it with newer xperias16:37
rainemakExTechOp, Sony also have proprietary blobs that are nuked when you unlock it (afair during unlocking phase)16:38
rainemaklegacychimera247, I used Xperia 10 III many years16:39
rainemakbut that's also hard to get/find16:39
legacychimera247that (in my opinion) is not a problem, i know what i'm getting into, but at least have the basics working16:39
legacychimera247i get you, my xa2 is almost 7 years old, and really doesn't want to die (apart from the fact that it's getting slower)16:40
abrwhoop whoop officially supported community port though16:40
pherjung[m]I would love to see Sailfish on top of a postmarketOS device16:40
malbtw, I was able to fix wired headphone audio on x10v and probably same applies to x10iv16:40
legacychimera247but still i wouldn't buy an already old device like the 10 iii16:40
rainemakmal, that's nice!16:41
ExTechOpAnd for my part, I would say software for a phone can be called "ready" when the major hardware of the phone is usable: phone calls, speaker, microphone, data connections, camera.16:41
ExTechOpIn this respect for example the Sony Xperia 10III is not "ready" since there just isn't proper echo cancellation available, so phone calls are not quite properly there.16:41
malstill haven't done PRs for that fix16:41
dcalistemal, sounds great ! Thanks.16:41
legacychimera247because i will probably change my phone next year and by then the 10 iii will be like very old already16:41
abrIf a recent fairphone gets appsupport then that might well be my next phone16:42
rainemakExTechOp, exactly echo cancellation kind of an issue is a good example of a difficult problem to fix16:42
rainemakExTechOp, if there would have been an easy fix, we would have fixed it already16:43
nephrosQuestion is for me, if SONY ODP is "unreliable upstream", what would be a more reilable upstream option?16:43
abrI'm not sure there is one, as those open device guys at Sony are really trying to do something quite enormous.16:44
ExTechOpIndeed, but missing it makes for a very frustrating user experience.16:44
abrit does. but it's worth pointing out how appreciated that's been over the last few years. for all the gripes, it's been wonderful running sfos on all these xperias over the years.16:45
abrx10ii and for the most part the iii were great ports16:45
ExTechOpFollowup question: Is Sony ODP future known, is it in danger of suddenly being totally terminated?16:46
legacychimera247abr: of course it is, xperias are the best phones even without sailfish16:46
abrbut there are lots of community ports that are more functional than the iv and v will ever be?16:46
rainemakExTechOp, no idea16:46
abrso maybe the future is there16:46
direc85[m]I'm still sad my X10III died, it worked great for me.16:46
malI use x10iii as my main phone and works quite nicely16:47
rainemaklet's move on 50 mins past... It looks that we're pretty much covered.16:47
rainemakI loved X10 III as well16:47
ExTechOpSummary: no idea when/if things move forward?16:47
rainemakimpossible to say target date16:48
rainemakbut we're committed to this16:48
rainemaklet's move on16:49
rainemak#topic Security patch level updates of the Android runtime (10 mins -- balta)16:50
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rainemak#info <balta> Google releases monthly security patches for Android, but sadly16:50
rainemak#info <balta> these are never applied to the android app support runtime of16:50
rainemak#info <balta> SailfishOS. You can check your security patch level in Settings →16:50
rainemak#info <balta> Android App Support. As these patches contain security fixes they16:50
rainemak#info <balta> should be included regularly in SailfishOS updates as well. Right16:50
rainemak#info <balta> now on the 10V the level is from August of 2024, I think on older16:50
rainemak#info <balta> devices this will be even older. Also some apps will check this and16:50
rainemak#info <balta> refuse to start, e.g. I cannot use Teams for my job right now16:50
rainemak#info <balta> because of a too old security patch level. Is this a big effort for16:50
rainemak#info <balta> Jolla to provide an update or is it something like simply16:50
rainemak#info <balta> triggering a CI chain?16:50
rainemak#info <Jolla> AppSupport security patch level is usually updated on bigger16:50
rainemak#info <Jolla> releases (4.5. ,4.6., 5.0...). Currently we are working on16:50
rainemak#info <Jolla> AppSupport 13 security patch level update. Unfortunately,16:50
rainemak#info <Jolla> AppSupport 11 no longer receive security patch level updates from16:50
rainemak#info <Jolla> AOSP and it is currenty using the latest patch level. All in all,16:50
rainemak#info <Jolla> it’s not a simple as triggering a CI chain. When going forward we16:50
rainemak#info <Jolla> should think whether we could / should update AppSupport security16:50
rainemak#info <Jolla> patch level also upon hotfix updates (when an update is available16:50
rainemak#info <Jolla> and integrated).16:50
rainemakWe can keep this shorter if there no comments.16:55
rainemakWe can keep this shorter if there are no comments.16:55
rainemaklet's move on...16:56
rainemak#topic How shall we deal with trolls in the forum (10 mins -- Fellfrosch)16:56
rainemak#info <Fellfrosch> Trolls quite often ruin a discussion in the forum. It is quite16:56
rainemak#info <Fellfrosch> easy for them to do so, because threads get blocked when they16:56
rainemak#info <Fellfrosch> get flagged. This is stopping quite often good and helpful16:56
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rainemak#info <Fellfrosch> conversation. So the question is how do we want to deal with16:56
rainemak#info <Fellfrosch> this problem in future. For me the better solution instead of16:56
rainemak#info <Fellfrosch> freezing threads would be temporary bans for people who16:56
rainemak#info <Fellfrosch> misbehave and don’t cling to the forum rules.16:56
rainemak#info <Fellfrosch> I already started a thread about that problem here:16:56
rainemak#info <Fellfrosch> Please stop closing threads because of trolls16:56
rainemak#link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/2536916:56
rainemak#info <Jolla> Let’s have an open discussion on this.16:56
rainemak#info <Jolla> Starting point could be Sailfish OS Forum FAQ.16:56
rainemak#link https://forum.sailfishos.org/faq16:56
rainemakThere were already many comments in the forum post.16:56
rainemakIdeas welcome, I'm all ears.16:57
rainemakWould somebody like to be a moderator? There ain't too many of us.16:58
malone problem of course is that even banning rarely works as making new accounts is easy16:58
rainemakthat's a good and valid point16:59
ExTechOpI have some experience going all the way back to the BBS and Usenet era, but unfortunately I just don't have the time these days. :-(16:59
rainemakFeel free to PM me on Forum if you think that somebody should be a moderator or you'd like to be a moderator. Surely, I'd connect to the person and so on.17:01
rainemakPersonally, I think that a cooling period for spammers/trolls usually work after warning rounds17:02
rainemakalso worth noticing that I do not have time to start tweaking Discourse itself17:03
rainemakif it automatically triggers something then it does so17:04
rainemakfor example closes a topic for some time period17:05
Ketowe probably should go for suspend and ban a bit more lightly, currently it is usually the very very last action17:05
rainemakKeto, that's true. Same time we should allow discussion/debate especially when FAQ is respected.17:06
Ketoyes, having discussion in productive way, but in most of these cases there is very little productive content17:08
rainemakKeto, that's why I'm asking who'd like to be promoted as a moderator17:08
malpolitics and other such things mixed in there ruin good discussions17:08
pherjung[m]I may try17:09
pherjung[m]but I don't want to be alone17:09
rainemakpherjung[m], you wouldn't be alone. I think it's mostly ViGe and me knowadays.17:10
rainemakany objections?17:10
rainemakpherjung[m], I'd be happy if you'd like to give a try17:12
pherjung[m]nice! Let's do a try for some months17:12
rainemakfor others, any objections? time to raise your voice.17:13
pherjung[m]Perhaps the members of the Community members would be interested, too: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/welcome-new-community-members/21374.17:13
direc85[m]+1 from me :)17:13
rainemakthat's a closed topic :-)17:14
rainemak^ none public17:14
pherjung[m]oh sorry17:15
rainemakpherjung[m], no worry.17:15
rainemakbut let's ask there...17:15
rainemakpherjung[m], I'll promote you17:15
rainemaklet's move on17:15
rainemak#topic Open Pull Requests (PRs) to discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla)17:16
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dcalisteI'm playing with the note application, and added a file provider : https://github.com/sailfishos/jolla-notes/pull/1 It's currently under review, but if someone is interested to give a try and give feedback, you're welcome !17:17
rainemakthanks dcaliste17:17
dcalisteIt allows to look at files from a directory as notes, edit them, delete them or add new files / notes.17:17
dcalisteOr from another point of view, it allows to have notes saved as files that can be synced with webdav for instance.17:19
abrooh nice and generic17:20
pherjung[m]is it possible to share an aarch64 package?17:20
pherjung[m]I'd be happy to test it17:21
dcalisteI guess I can try to make it compile on OBS tomorrow.17:21
rainemaklet's move to general discussion17:22
rainemak#topic General discussion (10 mins or something)17:22
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rainemakI find this 6:00 PM HKI time better than 7:00 PM17:23
abrgood at 5pm CET too17:24
ExTechOpIt works for me too, I usually have sauna on Thursday evenings.17:24
dcalisteI'm sorry, I've to leave. Thanks for the interesting discussions.17:24
rainemakthanks dcaliste17:24
rainemaklet's keep this one17:24
nephrosSorry: for open PRs, I fixed some 404 links in the docs.s.o repo yesterday. Should be quick to review.17:26
rainemaknephros, will check17:26
rainemakmoving on17:32
rainemak#topic Next meeting time and date (2 mins)17:32
rainemakProposing Thursday 20th November at 04:00 PM UTC17:32
*** sailbot changes topic to "Next meeting time and date (2 mins) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 6th November 2025)"17:32
nephrosfine by me :)17:34
rainemaklet's go with the same slot17:34
rainemak#info Next meeting will be held on Thursday 20th November 2025 at 04:00pm UTC: 2025-11-20T1600Z17:34
rainemakthank you all once again!17:34
nephrosand btw, the .ics file works nicely as a reminder17:34
rainemaksee you in two weeks17:34
rainemak+117:35
rainemak#endmeeting17:35
sailbotMeeting ended Thu Nov  6 17:35:19 2025 UTC.17:35
sailbot Minutes: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2025/sailfishos-meeting.2025-11-06-16.00.html17:35
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*** sailbot changes topic to "Next meeting will be held on November 6th 2025 at 04:00pm UTC: 2025-11-06T1600Z"17:35
*** rainemak changes topic to "Next meeting will be held on November 20th 2025 at 04:00pm UTC: 2025-11-20T1600Z"17:35
direc85[m]Thanks all!17:36
ExTechOpThank you!17:38
rainemaknephros, merged your doc update PR. thank you!17:39
CLMA31[m]rainemak: I totally missed the meeting but officially supported FP6 would be really cool! Even if the base has to be made as a community port (probably because of licensing?)17:40
rainemakCLMA31[m], no worry. you'll find all from the logs.17:41
CLMA31[m]Already read from matrix! I really like how interactive community meetings have been. Every time I learn something new and interesting:)17:43

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