Saturday, 2014-09-13

*** Vi- has quit IRC00:13
*** situ_ has joined #sailfishos-porters00:14
*** kjokinie1 has joined #sailfishos-porters00:16
*** pulser_ has joined #sailfishos-porters00:18
*** situ has quit IRC00:21
*** kjokinie has quit IRC00:21
*** pulser has quit IRC00:21
*** mugna has quit IRC00:31
*** boilerkim has quit IRC00:52
*** Umeaboy has joined #sailfishos-porters00:52
UmeaboyHi again! ;)00:52
*** boilerkim has joined #sailfishos-porters00:52
Umeaboylbt: What about now?Are you busy now?00:53
*** pulser_ has quit IRC00:55
UmeaboyStskeeps: Are you here then?00:56
*** boilerkim has quit IRC00:58
*** boilerkim has joined #sailfishos-porters00:58
*** jusa_ has quit IRC00:59
*** Jonni has quit IRC00:59
*** tohtoris has quit IRC00:59
*** juiceme has quit IRC00:59
*** cestdieg- has joined #sailfishos-porters01:01
*** situ has joined #sailfishos-porters01:02
*** VDVsx_ has joined #sailfishos-porters01:02
*** Nokius1 has joined #sailfishos-porters01:03
*** zhxt has quit IRC01:06
*** Stskeeps has quit IRC01:06
*** cestdiego has quit IRC01:07
*** VDVsx has quit IRC01:07
*** situ_ has quit IRC01:07
*** Nokius has quit IRC01:07
*** zhxt_ has joined #sailfishos-porters01:07
*** pulser has joined #sailfishos-porters01:07
*** jusa_ has joined #sailfishos-porters01:09
*** juiceme has joined #sailfishos-porters01:09
*** tohtoris has joined #sailfishos-porters01:12
*** iTune has joined #sailfishos-porters01:12
*** narchie has joined #sailfishos-porters01:14
*** pulser has quit IRC01:20
*** zhxt_ has quit IRC01:20
*** kjokinie1 has quit IRC01:20
*** mkosola has quit IRC01:20
*** Merbot` has joined #sailfishos-porters01:27
*** zhxt_ has joined #sailfishos-porters01:28
*** kjokinie1 has joined #sailfishos-porters01:28
*** mkosola has joined #sailfishos-porters01:28
*** iTune has quit IRC01:29
*** jvb- has joined #sailfishos-porters01:31
*** krnlyng_ has joined #sailfishos-porters01:31
*** Merbot has quit IRC01:32
*** morphis has quit IRC01:32
*** VDVsx_ has quit IRC01:32
*** cestdieg- has quit IRC01:32
*** krnlyng has quit IRC01:32
*** jvb has quit IRC01:32
*** narchie has quit IRC01:32
*** jvb- is now known as jvb01:32
*** morphis has joined #sailfishos-porters01:34
*** iTune has joined #sailfishos-porters01:36
MSameerUmeaboy: do you need any help?01:45
UmeaboyMSameer: Yes.01:45
Umeaboym gonna take a quick shower.....01:45
MSameerdon't ask to ask. Just ask01:45
UmeaboyI did..............much earlier yesterday.01:45
MSameerhave not seen it01:46
* Umeaboy goes to the shower01:46
* Umeaboy is back now.01:56
UmeaboyMSameer: The problem as I see it is that I don't know what options to set in the config-file to make the second sb2 command from part 7.1.1 working.01:57
UmeaboyShould I change all of thoose presented things that are unset?01:57
UmeaboySometimes in the future I hope that we can have seperate repos for other devices than hammerhead.01:59
UmeaboyIt would make it easier.02:00
MSameerI don't think you will trust my answer at +5 AM :)02:07
UmeaboyMSameer: OK. You asked if I needed help and I assumed that you'd help me. ;)02:10
*** zon is now known as zZz0n02:11
MSameermaybe sledges would know02:17
UmeaboyMSameer: He's off for the weekend.02:46
*** iGhost has joined #sailfishos-porters03:06
*** iTune has quit IRC03:06
*** boilerkim has quit IRC03:08
*** boilerkim has joined #sailfishos-porters03:09
*** mudnightoil has quit IRC03:21
junnuviUmeaboy: ./hybris/mer-kernel-check/mer_verify_kernel_config kernel/$VENDOR/$DEVICE/arch/arm/configs/cyanogenmod_grouper_defconfig03:33
junnuviUmeaboy: and set all values which script will say "is not set"..03:35
Umeaboyjunnuvi: OK.03:41
UmeaboyOtherwise I just open the .config file with nano and edit it. ;)03:42
UmeaboyBut OK. Now I know which options to change.03:42
Umeaboyjunnuvi: Would it be possible to get right kernel config-file after the build of hybris-hal?03:43
UmeaboyI saw that it made the kernel-image.03:43
*** PhompAng has joined #sailfishos-porters03:49
*** iGhost has quit IRC03:51
UmeaboyHere's the result:
UmeaboyI used gedit to open that config-file and I don't see that it's unset.03:58
junnuviah, sorry... I just quickly added $DEVICE and $VENDOR to path.. you have to find out which is correct config file for your device04:00
junnuvisee 14.3.504:02
junnuvibut have to go now, good luck :P04:05
*** hurrian has quit IRC04:12
*** hurrian has joined #sailfishos-porters04:30
*** hurrian has joined #sailfishos-porters04:30
*** Stskeeps has joined #sailfishos-porters04:52
*** Stskeeps has quit IRC04:52
*** Stskeeps has joined #sailfishos-porters04:52
*** ryukafalz has joined #sailfishos-porters04:58
*** narchie has joined #sailfishos-porters04:58
*** VDVsx_ has joined #sailfishos-porters04:58
*** cestdiego has joined #sailfishos-porters04:58
*** kimmoli__ is now known as kimmoli05:06
*** olafh has joined #sailfishos-porters05:16
*** RealJohnGalt has quit IRC05:21
*** RealJohnGalt has joined #sailfishos-porters05:24
*** RealJohnGalt has quit IRC05:32
*** boilerkim has quit IRC05:40
*** boilerkim has joined #sailfishos-porters06:01
*** uvatbc has joined #sailfishos-porters06:03
*** piggz has quit IRC06:11
*** mispp__ has joined #sailfishos-porters06:21
*** mispp_ has quit IRC06:24
*** phdeswer has quit IRC06:31
*** Umeaboy has quit IRC06:53
*** piggz has joined #sailfishos-porters07:11
piggzMSameer: lets say ... my fix is a terrible hack07:11
piggzand i didnt expect it to work07:11
*** vrutkovs has joined #sailfishos-porters07:11
*** RealJohnGalt has joined #sailfishos-porters07:21
*** boilerkim has quit IRC07:25
*** alin has joined #sailfishos-porters07:28
*** alin has quit IRC07:29
*** beidl_ has joined #sailfishos-porters07:31
*** beidl has quit IRC07:33
*** locusf_ is now known as locusf07:59
*** Nokius1 has quit IRC08:18
*** krnlyng_ has quit IRC08:24
*** cxl000 has quit IRC08:28
*** cxl000 has joined #sailfishos-porters08:29
*** krnlyng_ has joined #sailfishos-porters08:29
*** piggz has quit IRC08:38
*** alin_ has joined #sailfishos-porters08:39
*** piggz has joined #sailfishos-porters08:41
*** rusty88 has joined #sailfishos-porters08:44
*** phdeswer has joined #sailfishos-porters08:51
*** piggz has quit IRC08:54
*** piggz has joined #sailfishos-porters08:54
* Stskeeps yawns and stretches08:56
*** iGhost has joined #sailfishos-porters09:00
*** PhompAng has quit IRC09:00
*** krnlyng_ is now known as krnlyng09:12
alin_vgrade: hi09:20
alin_vgrade: when is the conference?09:20
*** piggz has quit IRC09:25
*** iGhost has quit IRC09:37
alin_why do people keep insisting on metal... when is all time dopped silicon09:40
Stskeepsthat's the chromiumos android runtime09:41
alin_yap... they want android apps on chrome os09:43
* Stskeeps ponders how much interesting stuff is there..09:43
hurrianwow, that's crazy09:46
Stskeepswell, not the worst suggestion i've seen so far09:46
hurrianthey added a new JNI target for Android: arch-nacl09:46
Stskeepsthat's kind of cool09:46
Stskeepsit might solve their 32-64bit issue09:46
Stskeepsfor aarch6409:46
hurrianARC looks like Android, stripped down to the bionic, ART/Dalvik and libraries (WebCore etc)09:48
Stskeepshehe, studying it faster than i am09:48
hurrianthat's... actually quite compelling, and better than launching a whole Android instance as a virtual system.09:48
hurrianit also looks like it depends on Chromium stuff to provide services that would otherwise be provided by Linux kernel09:50
*** zetaz has joined #sailfishos-porters09:54
hurriani'll be playing with this when I get done porting to Note 3 (N9005/Int'l QCOM LTE)09:55
*** iTune has joined #sailfishos-porters10:00
*** iTune has quit IRC10:13
*** narchie has quit IRC10:15
*** spiiroin_ has joined #sailfishos-porters10:16
*** ryukafalz has quit IRC10:20
*** spiiroin has quit IRC10:20
*** boilerkim has joined #sailfishos-porters10:27
*** piggz has joined #sailfishos-porters10:37
*** zZz0n is now known as zon10:43
*** alin_ has quit IRC10:52
*** peshko has joined #sailfishos-porters10:54
peshkohi there, guys! vakkov and i are porting to the galaxy s+10:55
peshkoand we encountered a problem -
peshkothat's step 7.1.1 from the hadk10:56
vakkovsledges: some help pls :P10:58
peshkooops, nvm; skipped a step11:02
situvakkov: Have you generated patterns for your device ?11:02
MSameerwhere is vgrade when one needs him :)11:04
*** piggz has quit IRC11:05
MSameersitu: so the issue with nexus5 is: camera there uses a recent version of camera hal not supported by the gstreamer source11:08
situMSameer: Interesting11:08
MSameersitu: I was hoping to get a nexus5 and work on that but it did not happen11:09
MSameerso someone needs to write the needed code until I get my hands on a nexus511:09
situMSameer: can you point me to a similar gstreamer source ?11:09
situMSameer: which I can use as reference11:09
MSameersimilar in what sense?11:09
situMSameer: for e.g. similar gstreamer component on Nexus 4.11:11
MSameernexus4 uses the same hal version as jolla so no need to fix it11:11
situok, can you point me to the components that were used to make camera work on Nexus 4. I would like to go through them.11:12
MSameerthis is the one11:13
situMSameer: so just this one needs modifications to make it work on hammerhead ?11:14
MSameerat least it's the starting point :)11:14
MSameerhere is where HAL gets loaded:
situMSameer: Let me try to compile it.11:19
*** filippz has joined #sailfishos-porters11:22
MSameersitu: install libhardware from your locally built hal11:23
MSameerfilippz: nice to see you here11:23
filippzHi, MSameer o/11:23
*** junnuvi_ has joined #sailfishos-porters11:29
*** junnuvi has quit IRC11:29
*** Jonni has joined #sailfishos-porters11:31
situMSameer: where are the gstreamer plugins ?11:32
situMSameer: gstreamer related packages *11:33
MSameerthe are in the sailfish repositories11:33
MSameeri don't get you11:33
MSameerwell, you need to build all of them11:33
MSameersome are available and the others have to be built by you11:33
MSameeri gtg now11:33
situMSameer: see you11:34
*** arcean has joined #sailfishos-porters11:40
peshkook, we need help -
MSameersitu: build all the gst stuff from github/sailfishos11:51
MSameersitu: and install them. the rest you can get from sailfish repos via zypper in11:51
situMSameer: Thanks, will check that.11:52
MSameerthat's the basic idea11:52
*** mudnightoil has joined #sailfishos-porters11:53
*** peshko has quit IRC11:56
*** sletta has joined #sailfishos-porters11:58
*** rusty88 has quit IRC11:59
*** piggz has joined #sailfishos-porters12:05
*** sletta has joined #sailfishos-porters12:07
*** narchie has joined #sailfishos-porters12:11
*** sletta has quit IRC12:11
*** ryukafalz has joined #sailfishos-porters12:16
*** ryukafalz has quit IRC12:24
*** ryukafalz has joined #sailfishos-porters12:24
*** Ormod has joined #sailfishos-porters12:26
*** furikku has joined #sailfishos-porters12:39
vakkovanybody familiar with this?
*** VDVsx_ is now known as VDVsx12:47
filippzvakkov: AFAIK you can try %define _unpackaged_files_terminate_build 013:02
*** Nokius has joined #sailfishos-porters13:06
*** Nokius has quit IRC13:17
*** Nokius has joined #sailfishos-porters13:17
*** Nokius has quit IRC13:22
*** javispedro has joined #sailfishos-porters13:36
*** sletta has joined #sailfishos-porters13:48
*** Dragonkeeper has joined #sailfishos-porters13:49
*** sletta has quit IRC13:50
*** tbr has quit IRC13:55
*** tbr has joined #sailfishos-porters13:55
*** Merbot has joined #sailfishos-porters14:00
*** RealJohnGalt has joined #sailfishos-porters14:03
*** mugna has joined #sailfishos-porters14:08
*** furikku has quit IRC14:25
*** boilerkim has quit IRC14:25
*** beidl_ has quit IRC14:25
*** mispp__ has quit IRC14:25
*** hurrian has quit IRC14:25
*** morphis has quit IRC14:25
*** mispp__ has joined #sailfishos-porters14:26
*** boilerkim has joined #sailfishos-porters14:26
*** furikku has joined #sailfishos-porters14:26
*** beidl has joined #sailfishos-porters14:27
*** morphis has joined #sailfishos-porters14:29
*** sletta has joined #sailfishos-porters15:38
*** filippz has quit IRC15:49
*** Sequenced has joined #sailfishos-porters15:51
*** alin_ has joined #sailfishos-porters16:10
*** beidl has quit IRC16:11
*** beidl has joined #sailfishos-porters16:12
*** sletta has quit IRC16:21
*** sletta has joined #sailfishos-porters16:41
*** snowwolf has joined #sailfishos-porters16:55
*** sletta has quit IRC17:04
*** Nokius has joined #sailfishos-porters17:13
*** lpotter has joined #sailfishos-porters17:25
*** snowwolf has quit IRC17:45
*** Umeaboy has joined #sailfishos-porters17:49
*** Umeaboy has quit IRC17:54
*** Sazpaimon_ has joined #sailfishos-porters18:29
Sazpaimon_so one month later my oneplus rma is finished18:30
Sazpaimon_now i have a working device18:30
Sazpaimon_has any progress been made on it? vgrade?18:32
mudnightoil1 month?  didn't it only just launch18:34
Sazpaimon_it launched a few months ago18:34
Sazpaimon_i bricked mine when i flashed the hybris kernel to the wrong partition18:34
mudnightoildid they fix it for free or charge?18:35
Sazpaimon_they replaced it18:35
Sazpaimon_i had to ship it to hong kong18:35
Sazpaimon_and yeah it was free18:35
Sazpaimon_i dont even think they bothered to repair because the replacment was shipped a day after they recieved it18:36
Sazpaimon_from a different country18:36
NokiusSazpaimon_:  vgrade is on it18:43
*** Sequenced has quit IRC18:46
*** chiromante has joined #sailfishos-porters18:47
*** Sequenced has joined #sailfishos-porters18:52
*** Sequenced has quit IRC18:58
*** chiromante has quit IRC19:01
*** Dazzozo has quit IRC19:09
*** Dazzozo has joined #sailfishos-porters19:09
MSameerSazpaimon_: is there an image already for the oneplus? (even if it just boots bash)19:13
*** javispedro has quit IRC19:21
Sazpaimon_MSameer, I made a recovery image19:23
MSameerI got my 1+ yesterday and already started to hate android19:23
Sazpaimon_I think vgrade booted the full OS but couldn't get a UI19:23
*** mispp has joined #sailfishos-porters19:23
MSameervgrade seems to be away or whatever19:23
Sazpaimon_I'm the same way, coming from an N919:23
MSameerI am waiting for him to appear19:24
Sazpaimon_I didnt realize having a sleeping screen clock was a nokia exclusive feature, it's what I'm mainly missing from this phone19:24
MSameerI can help debugging but he has to appear before I switch to android "sniff" :'(19:24
MSameerSazpaimon_: the display has a low power mode19:25
MSameerbut cm on 1+ has the night mode for the clock which might just do what you want19:25
Sazpaimon_I just want it to work like the N919:25
Sazpaimon_hell even lumias have this feature19:26
MSameerN9 had hw capable of doing that19:26
*** mispp__ has quit IRC19:26
MSameermaybe we need to convince Stskeeps to research "loading wp drivers" by libhybris ? :D19:27
Sazpaimon_mcetool probably works fine19:28
Sazpaimon_i dont know if anyone's tried it on any ports, though19:28
*** furikku has quit IRC19:30
Sazpaimon_its what you use on sailfish to turn on LPM19:31
Sazpaimon_it works on the jolla, i dont know about ports though19:31
Nokiusvgrade has now broadband atm so thas why he is so silent here :(19:31
*** alin_ has quit IRC19:33
MSameerSazpaimon_: ah that one. It's not entirely bullet proof and that's why it's not been enabled yet19:33
Nokiusyes the one+ needs also some polish to get the gpu hooked up (
*** xnbya2 is now known as xnbya19:35
MSameerI will wait for him as I don't want to duplicate the effort19:37
Sazpaimon_also now that multiboot is ported to the 1+ I won't lose the 2 android apps that I actually would like to use19:39
MSameerSazpaimon_: which apps are you using?19:40 and my banking app19:40
Sazpaimon_for mobile deposits19:40
MSameerI use skype :/19:41
Sazpaimon_and i dont think there's a port of vlc or mplayer for sailfish which would be my workaround for twitch19:41
Sazpaimon_oh, I just remembered, vgrade shared a google doc with me about his notes and progress19:42
Sazpaimon_I was also doing a port so I was editing it as well19:42
MSameerah sailfish media domain complains19:42
Sazpaimon_let me see if he put the hwcomposer issues there19:42
MSameerwhere is there?19:42
MSameeris there a git repos or something?19:42
Sazpaimon_the google doc19:43
* MSameer knows nothing19:43
MSameerlink please?19:44
Sazpaimon_yeah all the hwcomposer issues are here with backtraces19:44
Sazpaimon_that looks like the same stuff in the wiki link Nokius posted19:46
MSameerguess I will wait until I get an image to flash so I can help debugging such issues19:49
* MSameer stabs jni19:54
*** dr_gogeta86 has joined #sailfishos-porters20:08
dr_gogeta86hi guys20:08
*** alin_ has joined #sailfishos-porters20:17
*** phlixi has quit IRC20:29
*** phlixi has joined #sailfishos-porters20:29
*** phlixi has quit IRC20:32
*** phlixi has joined #sailfishos-porters20:32
*** javispedro has joined #sailfishos-porters20:36
*** Dragonkeeper has quit IRC20:45
*** Merbot` has joined #sailfishos-porters21:37
*** uvatbc1 has joined #sailfishos-porters21:38
*** dr_gogeta86 has quit IRC21:39
alin_MSameer: xdacon next week21:42
alin_or so...21:42
alin_I think his plan wa to have 1+ working by then21:42
alin_MSameer: manchester21:42
MSameernot for me I guess21:42
MSameerhe's not online apparently but it does not mean he is not hacking on it21:42
alin_was saying something about moving house too21:43
MSameersince I don't know the state of it and I don't want to trash my new 1+, guess I will have to wait and copy with android :(21:44
alin_MSameer: probably21:44
alin_MSameer: did you make the camera on n4 working?21:44
*** morphis has quit IRC21:45
*** Merbot has quit IRC21:45
*** uvatbc has quit IRC21:45
MSameeralin_: it works already for a few seconds21:45
MSameeralin_: there is a memory leak related to gl handling but I had not had enough time to fix it21:45
MSameerI know why or how it happens and I have a few ideas to fix it but I did not yet :/21:45
alin_MSameer: i remember sledges was saying something but works... the rest are just bugs21:46
MSameeralin_: it works. It captures images and records videos if you have the codecs21:46
MSameerI worked with him on that21:46
alin_MSameer: that is great... let us hope soon witll work on n5 too21:46
MSameeralin_: I was planning to do it but I did not get my hands on a n5 yet :(21:47
alin_i understood the gps is somehow fixed too... all one needs is the glue from jolla21:47
MSameerOTOH now I have a new project to spend my free time on21:47
alin_MSameer: 1+?21:47
MSameerso not sure when I will get to the n521:47
MSameeralin_: not 1+. something else21:47
MSameerit's not s secret. I'm just waiting to achieve a proof of concept and will then announce it21:48
*** _morphis has joined #sailfishos-porters21:49
stephgiphone 6! :)22:00
MSameerno way22:01
MSameerit's not related to porting sailfishos on a phone22:04
mudnightoilno-one was around when i asked the other day ... but do you think using indiegogo to raise cash to get phones to porters has legs?22:05
*** beidl_ has joined #sailfishos-porters22:09
*** ljp has joined #sailfishos-porters22:09
mudnightoilstephg msameer alin ^22:10
MSameerI don't know really22:10
*** junnuvi has joined #sailfishos-porters22:11
mudnightoiljust seems like one of the impediments to porting is enough porters (or people interested in porting) having enough devices ... and whilst the cost MIGHT be offset by people donating after something has been ported, surely if there was interest in the community, then raising cash to get phones to porters would ease and speed the process22:12
MSameerwouldn't that be a topic for the next sailfish meeting?22:13
MSameerbe a good topic22:13
MSameerat least you get more audiance22:14
*** vrutkovs has quit IRC22:14
*** beidl has quit IRC22:14
*** lpotter has quit IRC22:14
mudnightoilmaybe if there was interest among enough community members in sponsoring it, then jolla could provide some kind of matching €x per €x22:15
MSameernot necessarily jolla22:15
MSameerthe point is to get the topic visible to more people and the only way I see to do that is through the meeting22:15
mudnightoili'm not familiar with any of this stuff, not even a porter .. just interested in getting Sailfish out there on more devices22:16
*** junnuvi_ has quit IRC22:16
mudnightoilbut I hadn't seen any discussion of anything like that22:16
mudnightoilif you think there's a good way to introduce it, or would like to, I'm sure you're right22:17
MSameerI am not really sure but perhaps you can check with sledges22:18
mudnightoillike I think Tassadar was saying about MultiROM when people were begging him to port it to X device, he only has so much money to buy phones, so he limits it to ones he has immediate access to ... never saw anyone suggest crowd funding buying devices22:19
mudnightoilseemed like a pretty obvious way to expedite things, if enough people were willing to part with a few €s22:20
*** Stskeepz has joined #sailfishos-porters22:21
mudnightoilalso might make the community feel more involved and like they had a stake in things22:22
*** javispedro has quit IRC22:27
*** olafh has quit IRC22:27
*** Stskeeps has quit IRC22:27
*** piggz has quit IRC22:27
*** phdeswer has quit IRC22:27
*** krnlyng has quit IRC22:27
*** VDVsx has quit IRC22:27
*** cestdiego has quit IRC22:27
*** cestdiego has joined #sailfishos-porters22:27
MSameermudnightoil: something the community often forgets is that porters are also humans so no matter how many phones they get, they cannot port to them all22:28
mudnightoilsure, but they also seem to forget that for them to port, they need the phones and the money has to come from somewhere22:29
*** olafh has joined #sailfishos-porters22:29
*** VDVsx has joined #sailfishos-porters22:29
*** phdeswer has joined #sailfishos-porters22:29
*** zetaz has left #sailfishos-porters22:30
*** krnlyng has joined #sailfishos-porters22:30
*** javispedro has joined #sailfishos-porters22:30
*** aironeous has joined #sailfishos-porters22:30
aironeousi am willing to throw in $20 or $40 to get an htc one port, just saying22:31
*** aironeous has quit IRC22:34
mudnightoilsome companies might even donate devices (or offer to provide them at cost)22:35
*** hurrian has joined #sailfishos-porters22:37
*** hurrian has joined #sailfishos-porters22:37
*** phdeswer has quit IRC22:47
*** Stskeepz has quit IRC22:47
*** ljp has quit IRC22:47
*** boilerkim has quit IRC22:47
*** lpotter has joined #sailfishos-porters22:47
*** Merbot has joined #sailfishos-porters22:50
alin_mudnightoil: I doubt that anyone who ports it here does it for money22:50
alin_if so... probably we get a very poor deal... I will get more per hour working in my local supermarket stacking shelves22:51
*** ljp_ has joined #sailfishos-porters22:52
alin_this crowdfunding... does not go well with our european anarchism... brings some kind of contract with it...22:52
*** arcean_ has joined #sailfishos-porters22:52
*** phdeswer has quit IRC22:53
*** Stskeepz has quit IRC22:53
*** ljp has quit IRC22:53
*** boilerkim has quit IRC22:53
*** lpotter has joined #sailfishos-porters22:53
*** phlixi has quit IRC22:53
*** Merbot` has quit IRC22:53
*** arcean has quit IRC22:53
*** lpotter has quit IRC22:53
mudnightoilalin, the point wasn't to pay porters, it was to remove the upfront cost of them acquiring devices22:54
MSameeralin_: it's not used for paying people. It's used for getting hw to people interested in porting22:54
alin_MSameer: mudnightoil even so A provides something to B implies certain expectations22:55
*** javispedro has quit IRC22:57
mudnightoilI don't think anyone's suggesting sending half a dozen phones each to poor overworked porters and requiring them to complete X by X date22:57
mudnightoilif there's appetite on both sides for a port, it surely couldn't hurt22:58
*** arcean_ has quit IRC23:09
*** zon is now known as zZz0n23:32
*** boilerkim has joined #sailfishos-porters23:34
*** olafh has quit IRC23:35
*** End has quit IRC23:37
*** spiiroin__ has joined #sailfishos-porters23:46
*** spiiroin_ has quit IRC23:48

Generated by 2.17.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at!