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| Umeaboy | Aquilum should get banned. | 00:09 |
| Umeaboy | I don't know how many times that nick has disconnected and connected again in the last day. | 00:09 |
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| Umeaboy | Aquilum: Why do you disconnect and then connect again? | 00:14 |
| Umeaboy | Are you having connection problems? | 00:14 |
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| vakkov | ping ping | 00:56 |
| vakkov | nobody here ;D | 00:56 |
| vakkov | Stskeeps: any idea how to get PVRPerfServer working with sailfish? (I still haven't found the android version lol) | 00:57 |
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| Umeaboy | vakkov: Hi! | 00:59 |
| vakkov | Hi! | 00:59 |
| Umeaboy | Can you see if you can update the ubuntu-trusty-android-rootfs.tar.bz2 in http://img.merproject.org/images/mer-hybris/ubu/ | 01:00 |
| Umeaboy | ? | 01:00 |
| Umeaboy | It's missing /var/run/dbus and I have reported it. | 01:00 |
| Umeaboy | I want to make sure nothing goes wrong because of this. | 01:01 |
| vakkov | i don't have server access so i can't change any files | 01:02 |
| Umeaboy | OK. | 01:02 |
| vakkov | what is your host os | 01:02 |
| Umeaboy | Mageia. | 01:02 |
| vakkov | var/run/dbus shouldn't be a problem for ypu | 01:03 |
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| vakkov | if it is try setting an environment for your host os | 01:04 |
| vakkov | https://wiki.mageia.org/en/How_to_configure_an_Android_build_environment_in_Mageia | 01:04 |
| vakkov | and build from it | 01:04 |
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| Umeaboy | vakkov: At what command does the config-file of the kernel get created? make -j4 hybris-hal ? | 01:08 |
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| vakkov | Umeaboy: yes. when you start the android build your kernel will be soon built. since the kernel is built in a folder different from the one where the kernel source code is hosted, you should change the defconfig in arch/arm/configs | 01:12 |
| vakkov | if you want any changes on the config ofc.. . | 01:13 |
| Umeaboy | vakkov: As my model isn't Hammerhead I think I have to. | 01:13 |
| vakkov | are you porting to a new device? | 01:13 |
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| vakkov | Umeaboy: ? | 01:14 |
| Umeaboy | vakkov: Kind of. To my i9305. | 01:14 |
| Umeaboy | I want to build myself so I learn. | 01:15 |
| vakkov | Umeaboy: check step 14.3.5 | 01:15 |
| Umeaboy | Yes, but still the spec-file gives me errors even if I get passed it. | 01:16 |
| Umeaboy | I want to fix any issue and add thoose instructions to my document for future use. | 01:16 |
| vakkov | don't try to change the .config file that gets generated when the kernel is configured because this file is overwritten everytime when the build command is run | 01:16 |
| Umeaboy | So how can I create a config-file that's right then? | 01:16 |
| vakkov | find the _defconfig file that is used for your device (it is in the <kernel source path/earch/arm/configs>) | 01:18 |
| Umeaboy | vakkov: You mean in the github or in my mer-root? | 01:18 |
| vakkov | but the i9305 was one of the first devices :D :D | 01:18 |
| vakkov | Umeaboy: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_kernel_samsung_smdk4412/blob/cm-10.2/arch/arm/configs/cyanogenmod_i9305_defconfig | 01:20 |
| vakkov | here it is .. find it in your source tree ... does the kernel-config checker say anything about the config? | 01:21 |
| vakkov | or you are still on the building android stage? | 01:21 |
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| vakkov | building cyanogenmod stage * | 01:21 |
| Umeaboy | Yes, some flags were unset. | 01:22 |
| vakkov | ok, set them in the defconfig ... since this has already been done you can consult with https://github.com/mer-hybris/android_kernel_samsung_smdk4412/blob/hybris-10.1/arch/arm/configs/cyanogenmod_i9305_defconfig | 01:23 |
| vakkov | but you sholdn't be getting any issues with the kernel config because you are probably having the HADK kernel tree?? | 01:25 |
| Umeaboy | vakkov: There or in my laptop? I don't want to make anything wrong. | 01:25 |
| vakkov | onm on your laptop ... show what flags are not set .. paste them @ pastebin | 01:25 |
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| vakkov | Stskeeps: beidl: got the server and pvrtune | 01:29 |
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| Umeaboy | vakkov: I solved the pattern issue at the bottom, but here's the spec build command output: http://pastie.org/private/gqibivfp1ztczogexecyw | 01:34 |
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| vakkov | beidl: is it normal to have gpu task load: 3d core at ~80 percent just from scrolling in settings | 01:35 |
| vakkov | Umeaboy: hld on, will check in a moment | 01:36 |
| vakkov | Umeaboy: if mb2 doesn't stop because of them forget about them :D | 01:38 |
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| vakkov | Umeaboy: however it won't be bad to change some values | 01:40 |
| vakkov | for example CONFIG_AUDIT.. comment it out although the guys have left it =y | 01:41 |
| Umeaboy | vakkov: I think for future use we should commit it to the repo as well. | 01:44 |
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| Umeaboy | We should also correct this error: fatal: duplicate path device/samsung/smdk4412-common in /home/kristoffer/mer/android/droid/.repo/manifest.xml | 01:46 |
| Umeaboy | Don't know which of the lines for i9305 thou. | 01:46 |
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| Umeaboy | vakkov: CONFIG_NETFILTER_XT_MATCH_NFACCT is not even in the defconfig. | 02:09 |
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| Umeaboy | By the way....... What do I do about the cat: tmp/units/all-units.txt: No such file or directory issue? | 02:12 |
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| spiiroin | fyi & review appreciated too: https://github.com/nemomobile/mce/pull/218 | 07:06 |
| spiiroin | ^ should help with nexus5 display backlight problems around display off | 07:06 |
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| alin | sledges: lbt vgrade back from xda? | 09:20 |
| lbt | yep - all back :) | 09:20 |
| lbt | it was a good event | 09:21 |
| Nokius | yes it was :P | 09:23 |
| lbt | hey Nokius :) | 09:23 |
| lbt | we need to grab ash and get that photo... | 09:23 |
| Nokius | hi lbt hope you had a good journey back home | 09:23 |
| lbt | I did - trains do a cheap 1st class upgrade so I got that | 09:24 |
| Nokius | ^.^ | 09:24 |
| lbt | train was packed solid - people sitting in the aisles :/ | 09:24 |
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| lbt | I even caught my connection - 3 mins between arrival and departure with my huge suitcase, rollup and rucksack :D | 09:25 |
| Nokius | the London one was full to but not so as the one you had | 09:25 |
| Nokius | :) | 09:25 |
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| Nokius | will unpack my stuff now and may have a look at the two new devs | 09:28 |
| lbt | *g* | 09:28 |
| Nokius | just back home for 1h | 09:28 |
| lbt | I promise to do the wiki this week too | 09:29 |
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| Nokius | cool thanks will have a look on it then | 09:31 |
| Nokius | but this week I'm a bit busy but will try my best | 09:31 |
| lbt | no worries - when you can | 09:32 |
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| tbr | lbt: how did your presentation go? I only heard when queried about the download numbers. | 09:37 |
| Nokius | oh the KAZAM has a Mediatek so thats why there is no CM | 09:37 |
| Nokius | tbr was quit well some one was tweeting about it yeah but Nvidea had a talk in the other room so it was not so full in the room | 09:38 |
| lbt | we got videoed though | 09:38 |
| lbt | so we can share that on xda forums I hope | 09:39 |
| Nokius | hope so! | 09:39 |
| lbt | and yeah it was a bit disappointing - OTOH I spoke to loads of people and told the story a lot anyhow | 09:39 |
| Nokius | and we got intouch with one guy how likes to help with the wiki :) | 09:39 |
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| lbt | spiiroin: looking at PR218 | 09:40 |
| Nokius | Nvidea had tooooooo much Giveaways so the crowed moved to them | 09:41 |
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| alin | so the september update will happen in september? | 09:49 |
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| vakkov | beidl_: have you found out why do we have a lag @ settings? | 10:38 |
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| vakkov | and the browser and so on .. | 10:39 |
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| Guhl | OK - I sorted my problems with the UI hanging from time to time while lipstick was doing a server lookup on dbus using org.PulseAudio.ServerLookup1 | 12:15 |
| Guhl | as i already found out yesterday the address of the socket that it got did not exist | 12:16 |
| Guhl | this should be /run/user/100000/pulse/dbus-socket | 12:16 |
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| Guhl | i fixed it by adding | 12:17 |
| Guhl | load-module module-dbus-protocol | 12:17 |
| Guhl | to /etc/pulse/default.pa | 12:17 |
| Guhl | the UI is running nice and smooth now - no hangs | 12:18 |
| Guhl | I could need some help on how to incorporate some changes that I did on the phone in the source of my build now so that i can build a rom that can be published as the first Alpha | 12:19 |
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| Nokius | lbt: oh I see what you did https://twitter.com/hashtag/XDADevCon14?src=hash :P lets hope some on is searching this hashtag | 12:26 |
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| crazyeye | lo | 12:37 |
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| locusf | no hecklers at xda? :) | 13:43 |
| Nokius | locusf: in which form? | 13:44 |
| Nokius | locusf: iwrl from CM told me SailfishOS/Jolla is byproduct and started the ecosystem discussion ….. | 13:47 |
| Stskeeps | well, a bit of a overstatement | 13:48 |
| Stskeeps | we use cm, yes, but only it's drivers | 13:48 |
| Stskeeps | but on other devices we don't have ot | 13:48 |
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| Nokius | Stskeeps: byproduct <-> no real ecosystem no future no … He is a CM/Anroid boy by heart and only sees a future for Android and ios not other OS | 13:56 |
| Nokius | We will see no one will know the future today | 13:56 |
| Nokius | he had the point years back the guys from symbian had we are THE mobile OS | 13:58 |
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| locusf | Nokius: a certain individual threatened to get involved with the porters earlier here | 14:11 |
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| vgrade_ | locusf: the xda gave all the alt OS guys a good hearing, sailfish, ubuntu, firefox | 14:35 |
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| vgrade_ | dansou901: Hi | 14:36 |
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| vgrade_ | I think their history of tinkering with devices sits well with the alt OS idea | 14:37 |
| locusf | vgrade_: great :) | 14:38 |
| vgrade_ | I missed the heated debate with the CM guy but he was certainly in a minority | 14:39 |
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| vgrade_ | dansou901: hey | 14:39 |
| vgrade_ | dansou901: bad connection? | 14:40 |
| dansou901 | vgrade_: I'm here | 14:40 |
| dansou901 | WiFi drops sometimes in the office | 14:40 |
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| dansou901 | vgrade_: You've got the zip for me to try multirom on bacon? | 14:43 |
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| vgrade_ | dansou901: not as yet | 15:05 |
| vgrade_ | dansou901:I was talking the the oneplus guy on Sunday and it was not clear if they has released their latest android device tree as its different from the stock CM one apparently | 15:06 |
| vgrade_ | I asked if it was in github somewhere but he did not know | 15:06 |
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| dansou901 | Yeah, the one they have currently is still a bit messy | 15:08 |
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| beidl | hello guys | 15:28 |
| beidl | how was xda devcon? | 15:28 |
| beidl | vakkov: lets wait until Qt 5.2 drops with the next sailfish update. the way the scene graph batches similar opengl calls will definitely help (less state changes means less 3d core usage than you see now) | 15:29 |
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| vgrade_ | beidl: was a good conf, a very nice community, I felt very welcomed | 16:04 |
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| SK_work | vgrade_: any blog post coming ? | 16:07 |
| vgrade_ | SK_work: sure, I'll write my notes up | 16:09 |
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| SK_work | :) | 16:11 |
| SK_work | thanks | 16:11 |
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| vakkov | beidl: so all the maguro effort for now waits for the update :D :D :D okay, i am just not sure how are things set up now; i sync-ed the source on my new laptop and build th cm part; is it now enough to just build a sailfish image or i have to do the steps from the hadk?? | 16:19 |
| vakkov | sledges: or i also need to ""regenerate" patterns and rpms | 16:19 |
| piggz | Guhl_: what fixed the browser, my link? | 16:41 |
| Guhl_ | yes | 16:46 |
| Guhl_ | i'll be back later - dinner time | 16:47 |
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| beidl | vgrade: can I expect the talk about sailfish to be uploaded to youtube? did somebody record it? | 17:03 |
| Nokius | locusf: yes he was in minority | 17:09 |
| Nokius | locusf: and here works for CM | 17:11 |
| Nokius | beidl: yes they there is a record hope they will bring it to xdatv soon | 17:12 |
| beidl | Nokius: geil! :D | 17:16 |
| Nokius | beidl: indeed | 17:17 |
| Nokius | vgrade: the Kazam has a MT chip hope its one of the chips they will bring the source to github and may Kazam will do so too soon ….. | 17:21 |
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| piggz | Guhl_: my dinner time now... | 18:15 |
| piggz | Guhl_: with pulse, the idea is to create your own .pa file for the device, and create a config file to load it | 18:16 |
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| Guhl | can anybody answer some hopefully simple build/dev questions? | 18:20 |
| Guhl | I would like to create a flashable rom | 18:20 |
| Guhl | and have to do changes to etc/pulse/default.pa and etc/systemd/user.conf | 18:21 |
| Guhl | how do i do that so these files will not be overwritten | 18:22 |
| Guhl | i could workaround the default.pa by creating a specific pa file (which i will have to do sooner or later anyway) | 18:23 |
| energycsdx | Guhl: you can do like it done in mako port https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-device/blob/hybris-10.1/device-lge-mako-configs/etc/sysconfig/pulseaudio | 18:24 |
| Guhl | yeah that works for the pa file | 18:24 |
| Guhl | what about the systemd/user.conf ? | 18:25 |
| energycsdx | why do you need to change it? | 18:26 |
| Guhl | cause in reality i have to change the TimeoutStartSec in /usr/lib/systemd/user/lipstick.service | 18:27 |
| Guhl | cause lipstick takes to long to come up on the initial start | 18:27 |
| Guhl | but as far as i see /usr/lib/systemd/user/lipstick.service is not part of my sources (right?) | 18:28 |
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| Guhl | so i worked around by changing the DefaultTimeoutStartSec in /etc/systemd/user.conf | 18:29 |
| energycsdx | yes, i need to check, i also had problems with lipstick startup time | 18:29 |
| Guhl | another question btw. | 18:29 |
| Guhl | is it good practice here on sailfish-porters to fork a repository and then send pull requests | 18:30 |
| energycsdx | but this problem may be because you have something missing and lipstick waits for timeout | 18:30 |
| Guhl | i.e. if i want to create a device-htc-vision-configs and other vision specific stuff in the repo | 18:31 |
| Guhl | energycsdx, yes in the meantime i would maybe not need the timeout change because i solved the lipstick -> pulseaudio dbus problem | 18:31 |
| Guhl | but you could also understand that as a general question | 18:32 |
| energycsdx | Guhl: you can modify it in scripts in kickstart file if it realy needed | 18:34 |
| Guhl | i am quite new to the mer/sailfish/hybris build environment so i do still have a lot of stupid questions to ask | 18:35 |
| energycsdx | Guhl: btw what device? | 18:35 |
| Guhl | i am porting htc vision | 18:35 |
| Guhl | aka Desire Z aka T-Mobile G2 | 18:36 |
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| Guhl | so again is it good practice here to fork i.e. mer-hybris/droid-hal-configs and then do a pull request or do we use some sophisticated code review tool/process | 18:39 |
| Guhl | like i.e. gerrit | 18:40 |
| * Guhl hopes that there is no gerrit here - please | 18:40 | |
| Stskeeps | no, we got rid of tha | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | t | 18:40 |
| Guhl | thank you so much | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | gerrit has it's good and bad | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:41 |
| Guhl | sure but i hated it with CM | 18:42 |
| Guhl | which might also be because of the manners of some team menbers | 18:42 |
| Guhl | anyway so i'll fork droid-hal-device and add the device-htc-vision stuff to it | 18:44 |
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| tohtoris | Guhl: Great to hear you´re close to releasing your first alpha. What have you got working with the DesireZ? | 19:02 |
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| Guhl | screen, digitizer, wifi, gps, hardware keyboard (basics) | 19:03 |
| Guhl | rotation | 19:03 |
| Guhl | did not test other sensors yet i am happy that i sorted most of my principle problems | 19:04 |
| Guhl | like the UI not hanging ever 2 minutes for 15 seconds or apps not starting | 19:04 |
| Guhl | btw. is there a bug reporting system for jollas closed components like lipstick somewhere | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | use us ideally | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:05 |
| Guhl | (i know i should google that my self) | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | as your issues may or may not be hw adaptation related | 19:05 |
| Guhl | Stskeeps, well it is adaption related but not really | 19:06 |
| Guhl | the hangs on my UI where created by lipstick polling on a dbus socket to find the pulsaudioserver | 19:07 |
| Guhl | but the pulseaudio did not create the socket | 19:07 |
| Guhl | and this caused the complete UI to hang | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | okay, do you suspect it's also a problem with the jolla device? | 19:07 |
| Guhl | i solved that by now fixing pulse so that it creates the socket file | 19:08 |
| Guhl | it is a principle coding error in lipstick | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | kinda wondering why it's not coming up by default (socket device) | 19:08 |
| Guhl | a UI process must never be coded in a way that it blocks while waiting for a background service | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | true | 19:09 |
| Guhl | on has to do this in a async thread or process | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | can you mail me the above at carsten.munk@jolla.com and the socket name? | 19:09 |
| Guhl | Yes i will grab all the exact information including the strace and the dbus-monitor output and mail it to you | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 19:10 |
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| Guhl | and just for info. The socket was not created because i do not use a specific .pa file yet and the default.pa is missing the option "load-module module-dbus-protocol" | 19:13 |
| Stskeeps | ah.. | 19:15 |
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| Nokius | gn8 | 19:22 |
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| Umeaboy | sledges: You here now to help? :) | 19:49 |
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| Umeaboy | I've gotten a bit further, but I wish that you accept my pull request for the defconfig. | 19:49 |
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| lbt | Umeaboy: he's on holiday | 20:11 |
| lbt | I'm doing some i9305 work this week but not tonight - need to finish something else | 20:11 |
| Umeaboy | lbt: OK.Do you mind accepting my pull request? :) | 20:12 |
| dr_gogeta86 | hi lbt | 20:12 |
| lbt | o/ | 20:12 |
| lbt | Umeaboy: which ? | 20:12 |
| lbt | I was offline for a bit | 20:12 |
| piggz | Guhl: what did you do with rotation? | 20:13 |
| dr_gogeta86 | any slide ov xdadevcon ? | 20:13 |
| lbt | dr_gogeta86: there should be a video soon | 20:13 |
| Guhl | piggz, nothing it just works | 20:13 |
| Umeaboy | lbt: The change I did for the defconfig. | 20:13 |
| dr_gogeta86 | lbt was into btrfs rebalance limbo berfore update | 20:14 |
| dr_gogeta86 | need to be fixed | 20:14 |
| lbt | I'm on a dual-SSD btrfs rootfs now :) | 20:14 |
| dr_gogeta86 | on jollaphone | 20:15 |
| lbt | no :) | 20:15 |
| dr_gogeta86 | yep | 20:15 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i've finished chunk space this evening | 20:15 |
| dr_gogeta86 | now rebalancing bit a bit | 20:16 |
| lbt | ah, I see | 20:16 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i've freed 2Gbyte | 20:16 |
| piggz | Guhl: ah, mine works to | 20:18 |
| juiceme | alin, thanks for the repo info. | 20:19 |
| juiceme | alin, what are these differemt repos. this "xt9" repository is a funny thing... I did "ssu dr xt9", but it is now listed in both enabled _and_ disabled repos... what's going on here??? | 20:20 |
| alin | juiceme: he he small disaster | 20:20 |
| alin | juiceme: you need more extreme | 20:21 |
| alin | juiceme: did you run as root? | 20:21 |
| juiceme | alin, sure | 20:21 |
| juiceme | any way to fix that, force it manually? | 20:21 |
| energycsdx | HADK refers to file $ANDROID_ROOT/installroot/usr/share/kickstarts/Jolla-@RELEASE@-$DEVICE-@ARCH@.ks i don`t have it, anybody knows how it is created? | 20:24 |
| piggz | energycsdx: you create it | 20:24 |
| energycsdx | piggz: how? | 20:25 |
| alin | juiceme: yes /etc/zypp/repos.d/ and hack what you do not lile | 20:25 |
| alin | before ssu ur | 20:25 |
| alin | energycsdx: yes... build the config | 20:25 |
| juiceme | alin, okay I'll check it | 20:25 |
| alin | energycsdx: section 7 in the guide | 20:25 |
| piggz | energycsdx: section 8.2 | 20:26 |
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| Umeaboy | alin: So this can be done before building the first time? | 20:31 |
| juiceme | alin, /etc/zypp/repos.d/ only contains tart of the story I guess... I wonder where rest of the data's stored? | 20:32 |
| piggz | is there a #ifdef for sailfsh in qt? | 20:33 |
| juiceme | okay, there's /etc/ssu/ssu.ini too... | 20:35 |
| Guhl | piggz, how does one switch the init-script so that it does continue automatically | 20:36 |
| piggz | Guhl: mine does boot ok | 20:37 |
| piggz | Guhl: what port is yout telnet on? | 20:37 |
| Guhl | after boot on 23 and then is do the continue to make the phone boot | 20:38 |
| piggz | so, you have the debug init ... mine boots normally with telnet on 2323 | 20:38 |
| Guhl | is there a template for the regular init ? | 20:39 |
| piggz | have you got the hiddent file in ~ | 20:39 |
| piggz | .start_debug_init or so | 20:39 |
| piggz | Stskeeps: can advise | 20:39 |
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| Umeaboy | lbt: sb2 -t $VENDOR-$DEVICE-armv7hl -R -msdk-install ssu lr domain sales dr sdk | Would THAT be correct to do? | 20:51 |
| lbt | almost | 20:51 |
| lbt | you can do an lr or a dr in one command | 20:52 |
| lbt | what are you tring to achieve though | 20:52 |
| lbt | you shouldn't need the ssu sales domain in the target afaik - not looked at that | 20:53 |
| Umeaboy | lbt: I'm just following the instructions to create the local repo as seen in the 2nd revision of the HADK here: http://pastie.org/private/mhh6odap3sgklyjswkyra | 21:03 |
| lbt | which section ? | 21:04 |
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| Umeaboy | Look at the top where I started, but it's the 7.1.1 part. | 21:06 |
| Umeaboy | Page 23. | 21:06 |
| lbt | I'm not seeing sb2 commands in there - or ssu commands | 21:11 |
| lbt | I'm looking at http://releases.sailfishos.org/sfa-ea/2014-07-21_SailfishOSHardwareAdaptationDevelopmentKit.pdf | 21:13 |
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| Umeaboy | lbt: Sorry. My misstake. mb2 and not sb2. | 21:41 |
| stephg | eveningls | 21:41 |
| Umeaboy | stephg: Hi! | 21:41 |
| stephg | ohai! | 21:41 |
| Umeaboy | How far have you gotten with the i9305? | 21:41 |
| Umeaboy | I've come to the local repo creation part. | 21:42 |
| stephg | you're confusing me with sledges I'm guessing, I only have an n4 (for the purposes of this channel) :) | 21:42 |
| Umeaboy | stephg: Nope. I thought you ALSO owned that model. | 21:43 |
| stephg | sadly no :( | 21:43 |
| stephg | sorry | 21:43 |
| stephg | but hello anyway! | 21:43 |
| Umeaboy | No problem, | 21:43 |
| Umeaboy | Hi! :) | 21:43 |
| Umeaboy | I'm hoping that we some time in the future can have seperate PDF's for different models to avoid confusion. | 21:44 |
| Umeaboy | I think I'll start making one for the i9305. ;) | 21:44 |
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| Umeaboy | By the way...... It feels nice that more women attend the world of programming nowadays. ;) | 21:45 |
| stephg | well at some point in the future (once things are more open) maybe there'll be some sort of autodoc style thing that can help spit out device specifics | 21:47 |
| stephg | re: the women-in-the-world-of-tech thing, I whole-heartedly agree | 21:48 |
| stephg | sadly I'm not one of them :D | 21:48 |
| energycsdx | Umeaboy: there is only 2 women out of ~30 mens at team where i work | 21:55 |
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| Umeaboy | stephg: No offence meant for asking, but unless your name is Stephen, what are you doing here then? :) | 21:58 |
| Umeaboy | It could be Stephanie as well. | 21:58 |
| Umeaboy | So that's why I'm asking. | 21:58 |
| Umeaboy | Sorry for my useless spelling. | 21:59 |
| Umeaboy | ;) | 21:59 |
| stephg | hehe no problem | 21:59 |
| stephg | only the last two letters are wrong btw | 22:00 |
| Umeaboy | stephg: So how long have you been a Linux-user? | 22:01 |
| Umeaboy | I first saw Linux when Redhat first started to appear like in the mid 90's. | 22:02 |
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| stephg | now you're asking a question! '96 I think | 22:02 |
| stephg | and I fell into admin'ing in '99 | 22:02 |
| Umeaboy | I first started using Linux for real in 2006. | 22:02 |
| Umeaboy | I think. | 22:03 |
| stephg | either way you've been around | 22:03 |
| stephg | which is a good thing | 22:03 |
| Umeaboy | My hopes is to buy the Sony Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact 4G and port Sailfish OS to that one. I wonder how stable it would be. | 22:04 |
| Umeaboy | It uses a really fast cpu in the Snapdragon family. | 22:04 |
| Umeaboy | 2,5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 Quad-core | 22:04 |
| stephg | yikes very fast then | 22:05 |
| stephg | well if a suitable 'droid will run on it you (and we, the community) have a good chance | 22:05 |
| Umeaboy | Not to expensive anyhow. :) | 22:06 |
| Umeaboy | 4390 SEK. | 22:06 |
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| Umeaboy | energycsdx: Still better than 0. | 22:10 |
| Umeaboy | :) | 22:10 |
| Umeaboy | It's not 15, but we have to aim for that. | 22:10 |
| Umeaboy | I'm a feminist and NO I don't hate men just because of that word, neither does Emma Watson in her speach about feminism as well. | 22:11 |
| Guhl | hi does anybody know how to make the device boot normally instead of booting to init-debug ? | 22:12 |
| energycsdx | Guhl: try to delete init-debug | 22:13 |
| Guhl | k try that tomorow | 22:15 |
| stephg | Umeaboy: admirable principles | 22:18 |
| Umeaboy | stephg: Well, many times in real life women work even more than men and still get less payed. I want equality for the future and I'm NOT saying that just because some woman will show interest in me as I know that this will affect my daughter (if I have one in the near future) without her asking for it. | 22:20 |
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| Umeaboy | Just because they can't do one thing as good as a man doesn't mean that she can't do it at all. | 22:21 |
| Umeaboy | I believe in helping women to achieve the same thing with support. | 22:22 |
| Umeaboy | There are a lot of things that we men can't do that women CAN do. | 22:22 |
| Umeaboy | Sit while peeing for example. | 22:22 |
| Umeaboy | :) | 22:22 |
| stephg | heh | 22:24 |
| stephg | if you can't sit on the toilet you're not trying hard enough | 22:25 |
| stephg | but seriously, of course yes | 22:25 |
| Umeaboy | I'm thinking about having two seperate bathrooms in my future house. | 22:25 |
| Umeaboy | :) | 22:26 |
| stephg | in the grand scheme of things one can never be short of toilets | 22:27 |
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| stephg | (or trousers for that matter) | 22:27 |
| Umeaboy | In the summer we can. ;) | 22:33 |
| stephg | ha | 22:35 |
| Umeaboy | Well, we're born naked and noone can ever tell you that you can't go around naked since it doesn't hurt anyone. It's not my problem if people think it's bad but still looks at me if I'm naked. | 22:37 |
| Umeaboy | I'm not a photomodel, but I'm happy with my own body. | 22:37 |
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| Umeaboy | lbt: What are you doing right now? | 23:30 |
| lbt | you first... :D | 23:31 |
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| Umeaboy | lbt: Picking lint from my bellybutton. You? | 23:58 |
| Umeaboy | :) | 23:59 |
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