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| Wnt | is it possible to port Sailfish OS to the new Raspberry Pi 2? http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-2-on-sale | 08:04 |
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| Stskeepz | probably | 08:04 |
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| locusf | if nemo is possible then I don't think sailfish is impossible | 08:11 |
| locusf | the armv7 is the biggest win, we of course need the hw adaptation work too | 08:11 |
| Wnt | one could even build a Sailfish OS tablet with that hardware :D http://makezine.com/2014/01/07/how-i-built-a-raspberry-pi-tablet/ | 08:13 |
| tbr | them still relying on the whole broken surroundings sucks | 08:13 |
| tbr | ARMv7 is good, the rest stayed pretty much bad | 08:13 |
| tbr | it's still the VC4 that does everything and by default needs that binary loader | 08:14 |
| tbr | there certainly are more appealing ways to "build a tablet" | 08:14 |
| Stskeepz | always innovating approach wasn't bad | 08:14 |
| tbr | you don't mean the EUI thing? | 08:17 |
| Stskeepz | https://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/ | 08:17 |
| Stskeepz | that one | 08:17 |
| Stskeepz | which was basically a touchscreen and a beagleboard, ish | 08:17 |
| tbr | ah, that, yes | 08:17 |
| tbr | that was nice | 08:18 |
| Stskeepz | the execution of that thing was horrid though | 08:18 |
| tbr | hehe | 08:18 |
| Stskeepz | he was ahead of a lot of things | 08:18 |
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| uhhimhere | tbr: does Power VR need a binary loader? | 09:14 |
| uhhimhere | tbr: i wrote a DTS for a phone by the way XD http://pastebin.com/ZAyEAwS6 | 09:15 |
| uhhimhere | more like HTS | 09:15 |
| tbr | uhhimhere: no, but SGX needs binary drivers. The peculiarity of VC4 is that it is booted before the ARM cores. So it needs a boot loader and that used to be binary only, current status unknown. | 09:16 |
| Stskeepz | nothing more exciting than a sw upgrade bringing in a new toolchain | 09:17 |
| Stskeepz | so much mb | 09:17 |
| uhhimhere | tbr: wonder if thats still the case w/ BCM2836 | 09:17 |
| tbr | uhhimhere: from what I've read, yes | 09:17 |
| tbr | the SoC is described as "only the ARMv6 was replaced by 4 Cortex A7 cores" | 09:18 |
| uhhimhere | where are you getting this | 09:18 |
| uhhimhere | i tried looking for details | 09:18 |
| tbr | amalgamation of what I've read over the last 24h | 09:19 |
| uhhimhere | tbr : have you looked at my Hacked Tree Source? | 09:19 |
| uhhimhere | XD | 09:19 |
| tbr | no, does it boot? | 09:19 |
| uhhimhere | no,i was bored | 09:19 |
| tbr | bootlog or gtfo | 09:19 |
| uhhimhere | but thats probably in part due to the drivers not being dt aware? | 09:19 |
| uhhimhere | yeah id needto get serial console up | 09:20 |
| uhhimhere | no idea how to do that | 09:20 |
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| carepack | hello | 09:42 |
| carepack | starting noob question round ;) | 10:56 |
| carepack | is the ofono package a part of ported sailfishos? | 10:56 |
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| locusf | it is part of the nemo middleware so it should be | 11:04 |
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| carepack | ok. But in the ports it cames precompiled. So no chance to modifiy this? Maybe I'm on the wrong way but the incall volume is a littlw bit quiet in the mako port. | 11:08 |
| carepack | afk a few minutes. thx locusf | 11:09 |
| uhhimhere | how do you search the fcc database for a phone? | 11:16 |
| tbr | by entering it's FCC-ID | 11:19 |
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| uhhimhere | i tried but got nothing maybe im on the wrong site | 11:19 |
| uhhimhere | can you give me a link | 11:19 |
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| carepack | locusf: I found a parameter txt in the sailfish filesystem (no access to vm atm. can't provide the location in filesystem). So where I have to look for changing income volume? | 11:41 |
| locusf | carepack: hmm I'm not exactly sure on that | 11:42 |
| locusf | carepack: you might want to try a different modem for nexus 4, if it was that device? | 11:42 |
| carepack | locusf: yes nexus 4. Users reported this is independent from modem dversion | 11:43 |
| locusf | carepack: okay then I can't really help you, how would you think it was due to ofono? | 11:43 |
| locusf | sorry about that | 11:43 |
| tbr | check for the alsa config | 11:44 |
| tbr | asound.conf or such? | 11:44 |
| locusf | and pulseaudio | 11:44 |
| carepack | locusf: no prob. every input is apreciated. I really don't know if ofono is the right place for this. | 11:44 |
| locusf | is there still alsa in sfos? | 11:44 |
| tbr | well, pulseaudio uses alsa | 11:45 |
| carepack | in hadk pulseaudio is one of the middleware packages | 11:45 |
| carepack | ok. I'm going to look for a coreel<ate | 11:47 |
| carepack | correlate configs | 11:47 |
| tbr | or try some magic incantations in the hope to summon jusa_, so you can ask him how to possibly increase call volume on Mako. ;) | 11:47 |
| carepack | cool. thx for the hint. Will try it with inxantations | 11:49 |
| carepack | ;) | 11:49 |
| tbr | carepack: as a start, try alsamixer and switch to the real device, not pulseaudio. | 11:49 |
| carepack | what daoes switching mean? Sorry. I'm at the beginning in porting / programming | 11:50 |
| tbr | carepack: beware as there is probably a gazillion of controls, only change the one relating to what you need else you could actually break something | 11:50 |
| tbr | press [F6] or specify the correct device on the command line as a parameter | 11:51 |
| carepack | Ah. You mean before changing config to make changing via provided control options from alsamixer to test settings? | 11:52 |
| Stskeepz | of idle mentions: thumb2 and newer toolchain effect on sailfish, boot to homescreen, 200mb -> 188mb, a bunch of apps open, 376mb->364mb | 11:52 |
| jusa_ | carepack: most likely if volume control doesn't work with mako it's the float argument thingie with libhybris | 11:52 |
| carepack | jusa_: changing incall volume is not provided atm. So it have to be fixed in libhybris first? | 11:54 |
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| jusa_ | carepack: call volume is passed as float to audio HAL and without specific handling of those functions volume changing doesn't work.. sec I check if that is done with mako.. | 11:55 |
| jusa_ | hmh. it's there.. I wonder what's the issue then | 11:56 |
| carepack | I will try if its really present. Different users reported this with different modems | 11:59 |
| carepack | jusa_ thx | 11:59 |
| jusa_ | I'll shortly check what happens when changing the volume if I see something obvious | 12:00 |
| carepack | jusa_: double thx | 12:00 |
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| locusf | lbt: error: cannot run gpg: No such file or directory <- problem syncing hybris-aosp-r4.4.2 branch of your android manifest | 12:43 |
| carepack | temporary fix: --no-repo-verify | 12:44 |
| locusf | carepack: it was due to not running inside ubuntu chroot | 12:45 |
| carepack | locusf: ok. | 12:46 |
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| vgrade | Stskeepz: good 12MB (6%) saving on thumb2, seems strange that after apps have loaded still only a 12MB saving. | 13:50 |
| Stskeepz | vgrade: a lot of .so's | 13:50 |
| Stskeepz | i presume | 13:50 |
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| aironeous | sorry to interrrupt but reading the logs for this channel you reminded me of an audio issue for Europe that happened maybe 5ish years ago | 14:32 |
| aironeous | some kind of law about limiting the volume on mobile devices as it was found it was causing hearing loss | 14:33 |
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| aironeous | i remember the subject coming up in regards to a Nokia device | 14:33 |
| uhhimhere | anybody knows how useable grub4droid is? | 14:35 |
| aironeous | http://www.bbc.com/news/health-21294537 there is link to law regarding limiting volume to 85 decibels in EU and I think back then Nokia complied early on | 14:36 |
| Stskeepz | aironeous: it still exists | 14:37 |
| Stskeepz | we have a warning in sailfishos | 14:37 |
| Stskeepz | it's part of CE requirement afaik | 14:37 |
| uhhimhere | dont cellphones also fry your brain? | 14:38 |
| Stskeepz | don't ever read SAR declarations. | 14:38 |
| aironeous | ok just trying to help if that leads you in the right direction. I'm not a dev, Leaving now, have a nice day | 14:39 |
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| stephg | afternoon porters. mmmm porter | 14:41 |
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| vgrade | \o stephg | 14:46 |
| stephg | 'lo vgrade, much snow? | 14:46 |
| vgrade | inch or so, working from home to avoid the commute | 14:48 |
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| locusf | hey stephg | 14:51 |
| stephg | \o locusf | 14:52 |
| stephg | re: snow about the same here... | 14:52 |
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| sledges | PSA: sailfishos community meeting at #mer-meeting | 15:00 |
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| gogeta | plfiorini, can you join #mer-meeting | 15:19 |
| gogeta | pls | 15:20 |
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| gogeta | sledges, why mic not find patterns while are in place ? | 17:31 |
| faenil | sledges, which patterns? | 17:31 |
| faenil | sorry gogeta ^ | 17:31 |
| gogeta | a f* huawei | 17:31 |
| gogeta | pattern:jolla-hw-adaptation-c8813q | 17:33 |
| locusf | did you run generate-patterns.sh ? | 17:33 |
| gogeta | yep | 17:33 |
| jerpelea | sledges: why sailfish have hardcoded mkbootimg? | 17:36 |
| jerpelea | has | 17:37 |
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| gogeta | Problem: nothing provides /system/bin/sh needed by droid-hal-c8813q-kernel-modules-0.0.6-201502031506.armv7hl | 17:39 |
| gogeta | argh | 17:39 |
| locusf | gogeta: what are you trying to do? :) it sounds your config is quite exotic | 17:45 |
| gogeta | a bit | 17:45 |
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| sledges | jerpelea: agile methodology:) | 17:51 |
| sledges | gogeta: one of your scripts has #!/system/bin/sh and rpm susses it out;) | 17:51 |
| jerpelea | sledges: we use mkqcdtbootimg | 17:52 |
| jerpelea | because of dts | 17:52 |
| sledges | jerpelea: patches welcome! | 17:52 |
| jerpelea | :) | 17:53 |
| jerpelea | oki | 17:53 |
| sledges | jerpelea: locusf had a totally different boot.img format by one of the samsung phones, that was a disaster, but worked around. not upstreamed yet due to unpopularity i guess:) | 17:53 |
| vakkov | sledges: i also suffer form a wrong boot.img format on the sony i am porting | 17:54 |
| sledges | situ: no bug triage today either | 18:00 |
| sledges | vakkov: mk*bootimg sources are usually provided in-tree by a vendor | 18:01 |
| jerpelea | vakov: which sony? | 18:04 |
| jerpelea | vakkov | 18:05 |
| vakkov | jerpelea: xperia miro | 18:05 |
| jerpelea | oh no! | 18:05 |
| jusa_ | regarding voice call volume in mako. it is strange.. correct function is called with sane value from PulseAudio side, but logcat doesn't log anything from the HAL side.. | 18:05 |
| jerpelea | i was hoping that you use a newer one | 18:06 |
| sledges | jerpelea: have you seen all of our sony attempts? https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris :) (add yuga and nicki:) | 18:07 |
| jerpelea | yes i have looked | 18:08 |
| jerpelea | but now there is a unified kernel and nexus state | 18:09 |
| jerpelea | no patched ot android | 18:09 |
| jerpelea | so i bet that we can finlay make a good port | 18:09 |
| jerpelea | and whats nice is that we have 14 devices 1 kernel and 2 platforms 8974 and 8226 (half of 8974 soc) | 18:10 |
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| situ | sledges: Alright | 18:20 |
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| BluesLee | good evening | 19:17 |
| vgrade | jerpelea: sledges I have http://pastie.org/9884259 on oneplue for dt | 19:19 |
| vgrade | BluesLee: \o | 19:20 |
| BluesLee | hey vgrade, still trying to run android apps on android devices?;-) | 19:21 |
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| vgrade | BluesLee: still not supported on HADK devices | 19:23 |
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| BluesLee | vgrade: though the android support was a must have why i bought a jolla i can do without it now, there's a minimum of native apps which work well in general | 19:27 |
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| vgrade | BluesLee: what android apps do you use most? | 19:30 |
| BluesLee | vgrade: browser only | 19:31 |
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| BluesLee | vgrade: but the native ones get better, good drive since several weeks | 19:32 |
| klopsi-u3 | mapfactor navigator here | 19:32 |
| BluesLee | vgrade: native offline routing gps app is missing too | 19:33 |
| vgrade | BluesLee: lots of discussion on that wandering round the streets of Brussels last weekend :) | 19:34 |
| vgrade | BluesLee: did you look at modRana | 19:34 |
| BluesLee | vgrade: yes i did, on the nexus5 it does not start at all | 19:35 |
| BluesLee | vgrade: and voice output would be a nice to have | 19:36 |
| klopsi-u3 | big priject | 19:36 |
| BluesLee | vgrade: but gps has a lower priority for me | 19:37 |
| BluesLee | give me a working camera and i will use the nexus5 as my main phone | 19:37 |
| vgrade | BluesLee: yes, I talked to the author at the SF community dinner, he suggested qt-sensors were missing but that was not it. He suggested running from command line to see if it gave any clue. modRana logging is off by default and can only be turned on from within the app so a chicken and egg problem | 19:38 |
| vgrade | BluesLee: n4 has some support so fingers crossed | 19:39 |
| BluesLee | klopsi-u3: do voice commands work with mapfactor? | 19:39 |
| klopsi-u3 | dunno | 19:39 |
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| klopsi-u3 | good evening faenil | 19:48 |
| faenil | klopsi-u3, evening o/ | 19:48 |
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| jerpelea | vgrade: thanks | 20:25 |
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| jerpelea | error: File /home/ubuntu/mer/android/droid/rpm/droid-hal-d5803-0.0.6.tar.bz2: No such file or directory | 21:07 |
| jerpelea | any ideea? | 21:07 |
| sledges | those should be under RPMS/ | 21:08 |
| sledges | and should not be a .tar.bz2 | 21:08 |
| jerpelea | i have nothing in RPMS | 21:08 |
| sledges | what comand is resulting this? | 21:09 |
| jerpelea | mb2 -t $VENDOR-$DEVICE-armv7hl -s rpm/droid-hal-$DEVICE.spec build | 21:09 |
| sledges | cd rpm; git branch | 21:09 |
| jerpelea | ok | 21:10 |
| jerpelea | fixed it | 21:10 |
| sledges | good:) | 21:10 |
| jerpelea | # type ‘ zypper ref; zypper dup ‘ every-so-often to update your Mer SD | 21:11 |
| jerpelea | looks like a coment | 21:11 |
| jerpelea | instead of actual commands | 21:11 |
| jerpelea | ;) | 21:12 |
| sledges | because it doesn't need to be run often;) | 21:12 |
| sledges | or every time | 21:12 |
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| sledges | lo piggz | 21:15 |
| piggz | lo sledges | 21:15 |
| sledges | qtfixed ace yet?;) | 21:15 |
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| piggz | sledges: no, but i did get it fixed on bb10 :) | 21:18 |
| sledges | im talking about the all-app breakage in compositor | 21:19 |
| piggz | i know | 21:19 |
| sledges | the fix was one commit away in qtdeclarative | 21:19 |
| piggz | so i should build it manually for the ace repo? | 21:19 |
| sledges | yet it was not system-wide breakage, as non-silica and prestarted-silica apps worked | 21:20 |
| sledges | it's hw independent | 21:20 |
| sledges | http://images.devaamo.fi/sfe/hammerhead/qtfix.sh | 21:20 |
| sledges | (nb: just a tmp link, the script will be gone during next cleanup) | 21:20 |
| piggz | coolio | 21:23 |
| sledges | but further status will be reported in the bug, as a research for proper fix continues | 21:25 |
| piggz | sledges: tonights conditions :) https://www.dropbox.com/s/6qnqygqggrtbgdk/IMG_20150203_191106.jpg?dl=0 | 21:29 |
| sledges | fewer and fewer brits remain who hadn't told me about snow, and im just sitting here in a cold and dry bristol without a single snowflake :D | 21:30 |
| klopsi-u3 | hope you are all having a nice evening | 21:42 |
| sledges | what's better than sitting somewhere warm 8) | 21:49 |
| klopsi-u3 | sitting somewhere warm, eating junkfood, drinking beer, and playing a RPG | 21:53 |
| sledges | junkfood check, studying datasheets check:D | 21:53 |
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| piggz | klopsi-u3: i reckon mtb, followed by coding is better than that ;) | 22:22 |
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