Wednesday, 2015-02-04

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vgradenn00:50
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klopsi-u3jolla is a force for good in the world02:41
klopsi-u3a small force, but very meaningful02:42
uhhimhereklopsi-u3: why do you say that02:49
uhhimhereso how do i go about getting sailfish os on a GT-S758002:49
klopsi-u3you do it yourself02:51
klopsi-u3jolla just provides the tools02:51
uhhimhereis there a readme02:52
klopsi-u3there is the HADK02:52
klopsi-u3you must know this02:52
klopsi-u3speaking for myself, i am just at the beginning of porting sailfish os02:53
uhhimhereklopsi-u3: still what do you mean its a force for good in the world03:39
uhhimheretbr: so apparently the reason the BCM gpu needs a blob to boot up is because of h26403:41
uhhimheretbr: from what the folks at #pi are saying, theres enough info out there to write an open source blob;just waiting for someone with time/skill to do it03:43
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uhhimherehi guys where would I find the source files for these drivers in the device kernel source? http://pastebin.com/sJcUPKfi05:42
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tbruhhimhere: it's much much more complicated than the dumbed down explanation you got.06:07
uhhimheretbr: whats the full explanation06:08
tbrit's out there, you can find it. I'm not going to explain it again.06:27
tbrwith 5s of perusing the internet search engine of my least distrust: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/10489/how-does-raspberry-pi-boot06:29
tbrI really suggest being more proactive06:29
locusfgood morning06:52
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uhhimheretbr: thanks tbr so even on phones using SoCs with the VC4 GPU the first stage bootloader(eg PBL for samsung) is executed by the GPU?07:23
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tbruhhimhere: not familiar with those.07:24
tbruhhimhere: in theory every BCM SoC can be different07:25
uhhimhereso which is the blob?07:26
uhhimhereseems like the GPU is turned on first07:26
uhhimherew/ o any blob07:26
tbrthe CPU needs a blob to boot07:28
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jerpeleahi all08:14
Stskeepsgood morning jerpelea08:15
Stskeepswas good seeing you in fosdem :)08:15
jerpeleayes08:15
jerpeleait was nice meeting you all08:15
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jerpeleamb2 -t $VENDOR-$DEVICE-armv7hl \ -s hybris/droid-hal-configs/rpm/droid-hal-configs.spec \ build08:21
jerpeleathere is no droid-hal-configs08:21
jerpeleain hybris folder08:21
jerpeleahttps://github.com/lbt/android/blob/android-ia/local_manifests/hybris.xml08:24
jerpeleaalso not prezent here08:24
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carepackmorning08:27
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jusa_carepack: regarding voice call volume in mako. it is strange.. correct function is called with sane value from PulseAudio side, but logcat doesn't log anything from the HAL side..08:32
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carepackjusa_: thx for replying. Tested on the latest image?08:36
carepackstrange.08:36
carepackI'm going to test on my own. Maybe not everybody is affected?08:36
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jusa_it's as if the function was never called..08:40
jusa_which would happen for example if qcom alsa lib wasn't loaded, but that would then fail already elsewhere08:41
carepackok08:42
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carepackI have a mako with sim now here. I'm going to try if I can adjust the volume during call.08:44
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carepackok. tested. The call volume is a little bit quiet and not adjustable08:49
carepackorig setup. no mutlirom. recommend modem version jdq39 and cm10.1.308:50
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sledgesmorni!09:09
sledgesjerpelea: check github.com/mer-hybris for d-h-configs, and use hybris-0.1 branck (ignore the name, legacy reasons, msster  is WIP)09:10
sledgesjerpelea: and add it to hybris.xml manifest (like github.com/mer-hybris/android has)09:14
sledgescarepack: and volume works fine on cm with same modem?09:14
jerpeleasledges:thanks i will look into it tonight09:15
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carepacksledges: yes. working in cm09:27
carepacklol. I'm in the office an testing with my colleague09:30
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sledgessailfishos porting - first choice in the procrastinations' list:))09:32
carepacktrue word ;)09:35
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plfioriniis anyone doing oneplus ?11:23
plfiorinii was offered an invite... :)11:24
locusfvgrade is doing it11:26
plfiorininice11:27
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jerpeleahi all17:10
jerpeleamb2 -t $VENDOR-$DEVICE-armv7hl -s hybris/droid-hal-configs/rpm/droid-hal-configs.spec build17:10
jerpeleaNo provider of 'droid-hal-kickstart-configuration' found. error: Failed build dependencies:         ssu-kickstart-configuration-jolla is needed by droid-hal-configs-1-1.armv7hl         pkgconfig(android-headers) is needed by droid-hal-configs-1-1.armv7hl         droid-hal is needed by droid-hal-configs-1-1.armv7hl         droid-hal-devel is needed by droid-hal-configs-1-1.armv7hl         droid-hal-kickstart-configuration17:10
sledgesjerpelea: hi, have you done 7.1.2 and 7.1.3 ?17:12
jerpeleaexpain whats that17:13
sledgeshadk sections17:13
jerpeleahttps://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-version/tree/master/rpm17:13
jerpeleai took this one17:13
sledges-version is not used atm17:13
jerpeleahow can in check ?17:14
sledgesjerpelea: -version should not be referenced anywhere17:14
jerpeleak17:14
sledgesdroid-hal-version17:15
sledgesbut you are having error with -configs17:15
jerpeleai have swithced to https://github.com/lbt/droid-hal-configs branch 10.1 as instructed17:17
sledgesmer-hybris ;)17:17
jerpeleayes17:17
sledgesnot lbt17:17
jerpeleai see17:17
sledgesbut that should not differ much17:17
sledgeshowever stick to mer-hybris , lbt was the one prototyping aosp base, yet remaining upstream packages should fit in17:18
sledgesat any rate, the error you pasted shows that something is missing from 7.1.2 and 7.1.3 sections in the pdf17:18
jerpeleai used lbt on all repos because of android branch17:18
* sledges checks lbt's manifest.17:19
sledges..17:19
jerpelealet me redo it17:19
sledgesjerpelea: hang on17:20
sledgesit needs to be done selectively: https://github.com/lbt/android/blob/hybris-aosp-4.4.2_r2/local_manifest.xml.template17:20
jerpeleai have already done that17:21
jerpeleamb2 -t $VENDOR-$DEVICE-armv7hl -s rpm/droid-hal-$DEVICE.spec build17:22
jerpeleapacks17:22
sledgesok, non android_* repos should be taken from mer-hybris, sorry for confusion17:22
jerpeleaWrote: /home/ubuntu/mer/android/droid/RPMS/droid-hal-aries-0.0.6-201502041720.armv7hl.rpm Wrote: /home/ubuntu/mer/android/droid/RPMS/droid-hal-aries-devel-0.0.6-201502041720.armv7hl.rpm Wrote: /home/ubuntu/mer/android/droid/RPMS/droid-hal-aries-sailfish-config-0.0.6-201502041720.noarch.rpm Wrote: /home/ubuntu/mer/android/droid/RPMS/droid-hal-aries-kernel-0.0.6-201502041720.armv7hl.rpm Wrote: /home/ubuntu/mer/android/droid17:22
sledgesjerpelea: did you mv those RPMS into local repo?17:22
sledges(as per 7.1.3)17:23
jerpeleamv: cannot stat `RPMS/*d5803*': No such file or directory17:23
sledgesit says aries17:24
sledges$DEVICE should be unified across17:24
jerpeleaon sony there are 2 names17:24
sledges:)17:25
jerpeleale me use aries all over the place17:25
jerpeleaand start over17:25
sledgesaries is xiaomi17:25
sledgesnot cool17:25
sledgespls use unique (d5803?)17:25
jerpeleanot possible17:26
jerpeleasince aosp compiles aries17:26
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Stskeepssledges: mixed uses of namespace is normal17:26
Stskeeps:P17:26
Stskeepsthere's a vendor component too17:26
sledgesStskeeps: fair enough17:27
sledgesok jerpelea, go with aries17:27
jerpeleak17:27
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jerpeleasb2 -t $VENDOR-$DEVICE-armv7hl -R -m sdk-install \ ssu ar local-$DEVICE-hal file://$ANDROID_ROOT/droid-local-repo/$DEVICE17:41
jerpeleaconnman not AVAILABLE17:41
jerpeleasafe to ignore?17:41
sledgesjerpelea: (next line in hadk says yes;)17:44
sledgesi'll place the colon more properly in next rev:)17:44
jerpeleaNo provider of 'droid-hal-kickstart-configuration' found. error: Failed build dependencies:         ssu-kickstart-configuration-jolla is needed by droid-hal-configs-1-1.armv7hl         pkgconfig(android-headers) is needed by droid-hal-configs-1-1.armv7hl         droid-hal is needed by droid-hal-configs-1-1.armv7hl         droid-hal-devel is needed by droid-hal-configs-1-1.armv7hl         droid-hal-kickstart-configuration17:45
jerpeleasame error17:45
jerpeleaon17:45
jerpeleamb2 -t $VENDOR-$DEVICE-armv7hl \ -s hybris/droid-hal-configs/rpm/droid-hal-configs.spec \ build17:45
sledgesjerpelea: ls -l $ANDROID_ROOT/droid-local-repo/$DEVICE17:46
jerpeleadrwxrwxr-x 3 ubuntu ubuntu 4096 Feb  4 17:40 aries17:46
merbotUbuntu bug 4096 in meld (Ubuntu) "meld: merge new debian version" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/409617:46
sledgesecho $ANDROID_ROOT/droid-local-repo/$DEVICE17:46
jerpeleahome/ubuntu/mer/android/droid/droid-local-repo/aries17:47
sledgesit should not say aries/aries twice17:48
jerpeleait does not say aries twice17:48
sledgesls -l $ANDROID_ROOT/droid-local-repo/$DEVICE17:48
sledgesls -l $ANDROID_ROOT/droid-local-repo/$DEVICE/17:48
jerpeleatotal 29816 -rw-rw-r-- 1 ubuntu ubuntu 1513825 Feb  4 17:38 droid-hal-aries-0.0.6-201502041737.armv7hl.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 ubuntu ubuntu 7970205 Feb  4 17:38 droid-hal-aries-devel-0.0.6-201502041737.armv7hl.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 ubuntu ubuntu 7338829 Feb  4 17:38 droid-hal-aries-img-boot-0.0.6-201502041737.armv7hl.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 ubuntu ubuntu 7139593 Feb  4 17:38 droid-hal-aries-img-recovery-0.0.6-201502041737.noarch.rpm -rw-rw17:49
sledgesdid you run create repo?17:49
sledgescreaterepo17:49
jerpeleacreaterepo $ANDROID_ROOT/droid-local-repo/$DEVICE17:49
jerpeleayes17:50
sledgesyour paste got cut off, pls use pastebin17:50
jerpeleaSpawning worker 0 with 9 pkgs Workers Finished Gathering worker results  Saving Primary metadata Saving file lists metadata Saving other metadata Generating sqlite DBs Sqlite DBs complete17:50
jerpeleak17:50
jerpeleahttp://pastebin.com/R0ZHmmKc17:50
sledgesprevious command17:51
sledgespls17:51
jerpeleahttp://pastebin.com/GcJ0STF317:51
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sledgesjerpelea: cd rpm; git remote -v; git branch17:52
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jerpeleahttp://pastebin.com/4bdvBpHQ17:53
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sledgesjerpelea: pls switch to https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-device branch hybris-10.117:54
sledges(and/or adjust entry in manifest)17:54
jerpeleak17:54
sledgesall non android_* repos should not point to lbt (or whichever patched aosp base)17:54
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jerpeleasledges : http://pastebin.com/bTLPH0tb18:23
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sledgesjerpelea: ls -l $ANDROID_ROOT/*kickstart*18:27
jerpeleals: cannot access /home/ubuntu/mer/android/droid/*kickstart*: No such file or directory18:28
klopsi-u3theres a kickstart in $ANDROID_ROOT/rpm .... ?18:32
jerpeleano is not18:33
jerpeleaat least not in the branch that i used18:34
jerpeleai saw it now18:34
klopsi-u3ah now i remember what it is,, http://kickstart-tools.sourceforge.net/howkickstartworks.html18:35
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* sledges afk for a bit18:45
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mal-why are the zram scripts not in hadk built systems, or do I have to install something?19:47
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Stskeepshw adaptation specific, i guess19:56
sledgesjolla phone is not built by hadk system19:56
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gogeta_Stskeeps, i've asked there due wasn't a merely porting request just SoC support20:21
Stskeepsas long as we're not dealing with a vivante..20:21
Stskeepsthose things make me throw chairs20:21
gogeta_hisilicon20:22
gogeta_or Huawei custom Socs ?20:23
Stskeepshuawei works20:23
gogeta_they use vivante gpu20:23
gogeta_can you explain me20:24
gogeta_how many bits we need of android20:25
gogeta_long story short20:25
gogeta_blackbox20:25
gogeta_no cm20:25
Stskeepsas many as it takes to support the hw adaptation20:25
gogeta_no cwm twrp20:25
gogeta_no recovery ( in source form )20:25
gogeta_if you need to recreate android BSP20:25
Stskeepssometimes you can do magic stuff with a bit of guessing and mkvendor.sh20:26
Stskeepsor mkdevice.sh or what was it called20:26
jerpeleasledges:are u around?20:41
jerpeleahttp://pastebin.com/N1gTjcDC20:41
jerpeleai have started over with hybris-10.1 branch20:42
jerpeleasame error20:42
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sledgesjerpelea: ls -l $ANDROID_ROOT/RPMS/*kickstart*20:50
sledgesls -l $ANDROID_ROOT/droid-local-repo/$DEVICE/*kickstart*20:50
sledgesjerpelea: sb2 -t $VENDOR-$DEVICE-armv7hl -R -msdk-install ssu lr20:52
jerpeleano kickstart20:56
jerpeleain either one20:56
jerpeleasb2 -t $VENDOR-$DEVICE-armv7hl -R -msdk-install ssu lr20:56
jerpeleahttp://pastebin.com/F9GkhDjP20:57
jerpelealooks like mb2 -t $VENDOR-$DEVICE-armv7hl -s rpm/droid-hal-$DEVICE.spec build fails20:58
sledgesah ok21:06
jerpeleafixed that21:06
jerpeleaMerSDK ubuntu@ubuntu:~/mer/android/droid$ ls -l $ANDROID_ROOT/droid-local-repo/$DEVICE/*kickstart* -rw-rw-r-- 1 ubuntu ubuntu 3245 Feb  4 21:04 /home/ubuntu/mer/android/droid/droid-local-repo/aries/droid-hal-aries-kickstart-configuration-0.0.6-201502042102.armv7hl.rpm21:06
merbotUbuntu bug 3245 in grub (Ubuntu) "Grub takes ~2 minutes to start (while loading the stages)" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/324521:06
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jerpeleasledged: same error like last pastebin21:07
jerpeleasledges:21:08
jerpeleagrep on all repos after ssu-kickstart-configuration-jolla21:08
jerpeleareturns nothing21:08
sledgesjerpelea: which last pastebin? ;)21:09
jerpeleahttp://pastebin.com/F9GkhDjP21:09
sledgesjerpelea: error?21:11
jerpeleahttp://pastebin.com/WLegD2dZ21:12
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sledgessb2 -t $VENDOR-$DEVICE-armv7hl -R -msdk-install zypper ref local-aries-hal21:15
sledgesjerpelea: ^21:15
jerpeleaok21:16
jerpeleathis step is missing from guide21:18
jerpeleanow it built rpm21:18
jerpeleaWrote: /home/ubuntu/mer/android/droid/RPMS/droid-hal-configs-1-1.armv7hl.rpm Wrote: /home/ubuntu/mer/android/droid/RPMS/ssu-kickstarts-droid-1-1.armv7hl.rpm21:18
jerpeleathanks21:18
sledgesjerpelea: thanks, i'll add it, even though it works first time 'round (the ref for absence of metadata)21:22
jerpeleait does not21:24
sledgesfirst time - the very first time your run mb2 droid-hal-config, a one off:)21:25
sledgesafterwards it never refreshes, so i'll add that as remark21:25
jerpeleai see21:25
jerpeleathansk21:25
sledgesbut i think re-running createrepo should reset metadata21:26
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jerpeleasledges:Error <creator>: URLGrabber error: http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/devel:/hw:/sony:/aries/sailfish_latest_armv7hl/repodata/repomd.xml21:27
sledgesjerpelea: you must have missed the Warning box in 8.2 :)21:28
jerpelea:) yes ...time for homework21:29
jerpeleathanks21:32
jerpeleacu tomorrow21:32
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keithzgOh ouch, was curious to check the status of the Sony Z1c since a local store has a used one for cheap and I do love the hardware . . . but that's a lotta red on its line at https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris !21:36
klopsi-u3yes21:38
keithzgDoes anyone have any specifics (or generalities ;)) as to why that is? There's no links on the adaptations page to anything further. Considering Sony has actually been pretty good at providing AOSP sources for their devices, my (fairly uninformed) expectation would've been that it wouldn't be *that* bad.21:41
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sledgeskeithzg: we built on cm back then, and specifics are in logs if you grep for amami21:44
Toxipanyone here who has installed sailfishos on htc desire hd?21:45
sledgesToxip: piggz is the porter, installers are on its xda thread :)21:46
sledgesToxip: and don't ask to ask, ask ;)21:47
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Toxipyeah, I know... piggz doesn't seem to be here21:47
keithzgsledges: ah, fair enough. I suppose I should just concentrate on getting SailfishOS back on my Nexus 4 now that I have another one though, heh (gave my previous one away to a friend who broke her phone, then impulsively bought another from Expansys since it was cheap and I was missing it)21:47
sledgesToxip: pose your question pls, e.g if it's Qt animation glitches related, answer is known for all devices, etc21:47
sledgeskeithzg: you were missing it?:) what do you mean:)21:48
Toxipwell, whenever I try to install sailfish on htc desire hd, it goes through but then just boots to cm like nothing happened21:48
sledgesToxip: maybe you have a slight variation of your model? what does getprop say in cm?x21:49
sledgeshave you observed that installation ends without errors (and takes a long time instead of quitting at first bit)21:49
Toxipit gives me the done! thing... it seems to run it just fine21:49
ToxipI have the cm 10.1 SR3 like piggz instructed21:50
sledgesdone! can also mean undone21:50
sledgesToxip: ok..21:50
keithzgsledges: Heh. From the very first moment I got a Nexus 4, back when it first came out, I was like "oooh, Harmattan or something like it would be sooo nice on this!" And I was right :D21:50
sledgeskeithzg:D21:51
sledgesToxip: can you use fastboot ?21:51
Toxipyeah, I can21:52
sledgesToxip: extract sailfish .zip and boot the thing inside call fastboot boot hybris-boot.img (if you see hybris-recovery.img you're even luckier)21:52
sledgesToxip: is your bootloader unlocked btw?21:53
Toxipyes, done all that jazz :)21:53
Toxiplet me try that21:53
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Toxipwell, something definitely happened but nothing on the screen21:57
Toxiptried hybris-boot.img21:57
sledgeswhat does your host's dmesg say?21:58
Toxipwhat's that?21:58
Toxipwaait22:00
ToxipI'm in the language screen22:01
Toxipit's working :)22:01
sledges\o/22:01
sledgesyou can make this permanent if you do fastboot flash boot hybris-boot.img22:01
sledgesbut if your unlocking didn't complete, this might error out, and explain what happened22:02
Toxipyeah... it was that after all... I should've just tried that first before asking here >_<22:02
Toxipalways need to flash the boot img in fastboot... annoying22:03
Toxipgalaxy s2 was a lot easier22:03
Toxipand galaxy s22:03
ToxipI have my gf's old galaxy s lying around... perhaps I could start porting sailfish on it :)22:04
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sledgesToxip: sure thing!22:14
sledgesso permanent flashing doesn't work?22:14
sledgeson the other hand you've got yourself a rom boot manager :D22:14
Toxipflash worked and it boots just fine22:20
Toxipso you say this tearing bug is common?22:21
sledgesnope, never head of tearing :}22:23
sledgesToxip: all devices were getting "App not responding" banners22:29
sledgeshttps://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78522:29
merbotNemo bug 785 in Hybris-ing "[hammerhead][mako] SailfishOS 1.1.1.27 "not responding" banner keeps appearing" [Major,Assigned]22:29
sledgesworkaround is here for that: http://images.devaamo.fi/sfe/hammerhead/qtfix.sh22:29
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antranigvyo \o !22:51
sledgeshi antranigv !22:55
antranigvgreetings (:23:06
antranigvI'm looking forward to port Sailfish23:06
sledgesthat's a good wish! what device have you got?:)23:07
antranigvjust reading the HADK now23:07
klopsi-u3greetings antranigv23:07
antranigvsledges: I have some samsungs in house23:07
antranigvhay klopsi-u323:07
sledgesantranigv: awesome! /me is going to zleep so you two have fun :D23:08
klopsi-u3ok good night sledges23:08
sledgesn!n23:08
antranigvand I might buy iocean for porting23:08
antranigvgood night!23:08
antranigvX8 to be more exact23:08
klopsi-u3never heard of them before23:09
antranigvme either, just checked it online, they have good hardware23:09
klopsi-u3high end cpus i see23:09
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antranigvany minimum requierments ?23:09
antranigvyupp23:09
klopsi-u3there is this23:10
klopsi-u3https://together.jolla.com/question/27588/what-are-the-minimum-hardware-requirements-of-sailfish/23:10
sledgescyanogenmod 10.123:11
sledges(SCRN)23:11
antranigvcool, I have lowlevel devices too (:23:12
sledgescm 10.1 is minimum23:13
sledgescm11 is also ok, 12 not yet prepared23:13
sledgesbut cm needs to exist (or aosp, if more work is ok)23:13
sledgesso means your phone vendor has opened linux kernel and android sources23:13
antranigvfor drivers. I see23:14
sledgess/opened/finally released the source of/ :P23:14
sledgesfor patches23:14
antranigvhmm23:15
klopsi-u3so first step is to decide which device23:16
antranigvthis ioceans are sexy23:16
antranigvI'll dig and see if I can find anything23:16
sledgesno official cm support for ioceans../23:17
antranigvacually, I also have contacts, so they MIGHT provide me with some stuff23:17
antranigvand, we also have local firm named Armphones (not released yet), I might get a phone and sources from the owner of the company :P23:18
sledgesno forum dedicated to iocean on xda..23:18
sledgesjust some arbitrary ports23:18
sledgeshmm23:18
sledgesthen you'll need aosp base23:19
sledgesbetter train on a known-cm device first ;)23:19
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sledgesas aosp facilitation is not yet in place (but community seems to be working on it)23:19
antranigvany device you guys recommend ?23:20
sledgesthe one on your table;)23:20
klopsi-u3i like the droid 4 for the keyboard23:20
sledgesyes, something popular, so has the biggest effect23:20
antranigvfunny but, I don't have a phone :D23:21
sledgesantranigv: you mentioned samsungs;))23:21
antranigvin the house :D23:21
UmeaboyHi sledges!23:21
antranigvI have N900 (:23:21
UmeaboyWazzzup?23:21
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sledgeshi Umeaboy , trying to fall asleep:)23:21
* Umeaboy brings a sledgehammer and swings it to sledges head.23:22
UmeaboyHad enough yet?23:22
Umeaboy:=23:22
Umeaboy;)23:22
UmeaboyYou said you wanted to fall asleep. :)23:22
UmeaboyNot HOW.23:22
Umeaboy:)23:22
sledgesporting is very addictive:p hammers don't help23:23
* sledges slaps Umeaboy around with a large trout23:23
sledgesUmeaboy: wazap with you, finally happy with the new hadk :P23:23
sledges(or trout:D)23:23
sledges?23:23
* Umeaboy prefers the SDK. ;)23:24
sledgeswhatever floats your boat;))23:24
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keithzgYeesh, I clearly should've just manually downloaded the latest Lollipop images and flashed them, upgrading my stock Nexus 4 each step all the way up is taking forever. I swear Google must be throttling the speeds of the 4.4 OTA, since there's no way 239MB should take this long in 2015!23:28
antranigvany of these will work ? http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Unofficial_Ports23:33
klopsi-u3not sure23:36
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antranigvGalaxy Core I think I have23:39
antranigv3 of them :P23:39
klopsi-u3so far I got to a shell prompt on my Droid 423:41
klopsi-u3and i can trigger the vibrator23:41
antranigvklopsi-u3: android ?23:42
antranigvor Mer ?23:42
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klopsi-u3antranigv: sailfish os23:43
antranigvklopsi-u3: cool ^^23:43
antranigvthe problem is23:44
antranigvbig companies23:44
antranigvmake good hardware23:44
antranigvand bad software :P23:44
antranigvso sailfish will be fun on good hardware23:44
klopsi-u3i dont need any particularly fast phone23:45
klopsi-u3and with cyanogenmod 11 on the droid 4, i had a phone free of google annoyances23:47
antranigvwhat about sailfish on tablets ?23:47
klopsi-u3they are working on a tablet, i think23:47
klopsi-u3with an adapted UI23:47
antranigvhmm23:53
keithzgYeah, I'm looking forward to the tablet, and ordered it even before shipping to Canada was confirmed; still, might buy another Nexus 9 (gave mine away) and try to get SailfishOS on it for the sake of haptic feedback once the tablet UI is available.23:53
antranigvI also have a tablet... ahh.. confusing23:53
klopsi-u3hmm23:55
klopsi-u3I just cant get friendly with these touch-devices23:59
antranigvI need to fix my N90023:59
klopsi-u3what broke?23:59
* antranigv likes keyboard23:59

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