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| uhhimhere | porting to a new device "Ensure your device boots CM." | 03:07 |
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| uhhimhere | why CM? | 03:07 |
| uhhimhere | whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy | 03:07 |
| uhhimhere | why not just android? | 03:07 |
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| sledges | uhhimhere: aosp is fine too, provided you patch it (just like each cm version we have has been patched) | 03:31 |
| sledges | what to patch? look at Modifications chapter, and simply study repos under github/mer-hybris/android_* of what we patched | 03:32 |
| sledges | night night | 03:32 |
| klopsi-u3 | night sledges | 03:34 |
| locusf | morning | 03:39 |
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| uhhimhere | sledges, kthnx | 04:04 |
| uhhimhere | sledges: so i just skip chapter 5 entirely? | 04:07 |
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| uhhimhere | https://fosdem.org/2015/schedule/event/sailfishos/ | 05:32 |
| uhhimhere | anybody know if the slides from that presso is available | 05:32 |
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| locusf | uhhimhere: ask lbt, he might have them somewhere | 05:50 |
| uhhimhere | lbt: hey can you help with ^ | 05:52 |
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| uhhimhere | lbt: hey do you have the slides for https://fosdem.org/2015/schedule/event/sailfishos/ | 08:06 |
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| Nokius_ | uhhimhere: the one from xda not the same but nearly the them http://merproject.org/~lbt/XDA14/XDA14.pdf | 08:45 |
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| uhhimhere | Nokius_, im looking for "Recycle your Android devices for anything : run real Linux on them" | 08:48 |
| locusf | it is essentially the same presentation afaik | 08:48 |
| Nokius_ | yes FOSDEM one has some more slides about the HADK part | 08:51 |
| uhhimhere | ok so i checked on google and AOSP doesnt have my device on the list | 08:52 |
| uhhimhere | so all I have is device firmware from sammobile and source from opensource.samsung | 08:53 |
| uhhimhere | is there anyway of getting sailfish to build on it? GT-S7580 | 08:53 |
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| cxl000 | uhhimhere, unfortunately the HADK methodology of porting sailfishos assumes that you can build a working android (ASOP or CM 10/11) for which libhybris can be built. | 09:26 |
| uhhimhere | cxl000, ok | 09:27 |
| uhhimhere | cxl000, any reason libhybris cant be build for stock? | 09:27 |
| cxl000 | You probably need to start at porting ASOP or CM to you device first then you can look to porting sailfishos | 09:27 |
| uhhimhere | yeah | 09:27 |
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| cxl000 | Do you have everything to build stock? | 09:30 |
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| cxl000 | Have you successfully built a full stock rom? | 09:31 |
| zGrr | moin :) | 09:31 |
| uhhimhere | cxl000, no ive only built kernel(successfully) | 09:32 |
| uhhimhere | cxl000, IM not sure, what do i need? | 09:32 |
| cxl000 | If you can it might then be possible however the further you are from CM 10/11 the more the HADK is just a guide and the more you need to do. | 09:32 |
| uhhimhere | what do you mean further away from CM10/11? | 09:33 |
| uhhimhere | my device runs 4.2.2 | 09:34 |
| cxl000 | I dont know what you need. I'm not an android porter. I've only followed the guids on ASOP and CM for my devices which have already been ported. | 09:36 |
| uhhimhere | right.... | 09:36 |
| cxl000 | You might need to try an android forum | 09:36 |
| uhhimhere | what do you mean further away from CM10/11? | 09:36 |
| * uhhimhere thinks its hilarious that uhhimhere is lookign for a proper guide on porting android...to an android system | 09:38 | |
| cxl000 | The HADK is based on a starting point of having CM10 or CM11 | 09:38 |
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| uhhimhere | cxl000, yeah but arent they based on a certain android version | 09:41 |
| cxl000 | The share a common parentage with latter versions folded in but they are not identical. | 09:45 |
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| uhhimhere | what do they mean "device tree" is that the same as the kernel's device tree source?:http://xda-university.com/as-a-developer/getting-started-building-android-from-source | 09:46 |
| cxl000 | They are probably referring to all the source that sits under device in the adroid repo | 09:51 |
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| cxl000 | that tells how to build android for a specific device | 09:52 |
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| uhhimhere | so its like a board file | 09:54 |
| uhhimhere | or a defconfig | 09:54 |
| uhhimhere | where do i get that for my device | 09:54 |
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| cxl000 | I suspect that the first person to port android to your device get to write it | 09:57 |
| cxl000 | and that they need to know android quite well to be able to do so | 09:58 |
| cxl000 | and know the device quite well | 09:58 |
| cxl000 | Have you looked at the vendor supplied sources? | 09:59 |
| uhhimhere | yes | 09:59 |
| cxl000 | not just the kernel but everything | 10:00 |
| sledges | doesn't opensource.samsung.com have any instructions? they should say which branch tag of aosp to repo sync, and how to inject vendor-specifig (samsung) hardware adaptation bits | 10:00 |
| sledges | then lunch menu should have the new device(s) name added to the list | 10:00 |
| sledges | (lookup breakfast in hadk if you don't know what i mean by lunch;) | 10:01 |
| sledges | (the two commands complement each other) | 10:01 |
| uhhimhere | sledges: aside from the kernel source in the tar.gz there is a platform tar | 10:02 |
| uhhimhere | http://pastebin.com/9AwqUr9g | 10:02 |
| uhhimhere | thats what it says | 10:02 |
| sledges | there you go | 10:03 |
| cxl000 | uhhimhere, so there are instructions | 10:03 |
| * sledges goes afk | 10:04 | |
| uhhimhere | "2. Copy module that you want to build - to original android open source" | 10:04 |
| uhhimhere | what does that mean | 10:04 |
| cxl000 | read the building instructions at android open source | 10:05 |
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| cxl000 | read the HADK | 10:06 |
| uhhimhere | wheres that | 10:06 |
| tbr | read the topic | 10:07 |
| uhhimhere | http://source.android.com/devices/tech/dalvik/configure.html | 10:07 |
| cxl000 | http://source.android.com/ will have build instructions | 10:07 |
| uhhimhere | im there | 10:07 |
| cxl000 | HADK has instructions streamlined | 10:08 |
| cxl000 | try http://source.android.com/source/building.html | 10:10 |
| uhhimhere | yup im on there | 10:11 |
| uhhimhere | so this builds AOSP but AOSP wont include drivers for say my GPU | 10:12 |
| uhhimhere | how do i add that | 10:12 |
| cxl000 | esssentially you set up your build env, use repo to download sources, add the vendor bits, build, then if you have everthing right install the rom | 10:12 |
| uhhimhere | ok | 10:13 |
| uhhimhere | and where do i find the vendor buts | 10:13 |
| uhhimhere | xd bits | 10:13 |
| cxl000 | I think there is a step to extract the binary blobs from your phone. It should be covered in the instructions. | 10:20 |
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| uhhimhere | cxl000, which instructions? google? | 10:35 |
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| cxl000 | uhhimhere, yes start with the google instructions | 10:47 |
| uhhimhere | nah they only have binaries for their nexus devices | 10:48 |
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| uhhimhere | tbr: so I found this : www.broadcom.com/docs/support/videocore/Brcm_Android_ICS_Graphics_Stack.tar.gz | 11:19 |
| uhhimhere | would that work for AOSP | 11:20 |
| tbr | NFC | 11:21 |
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| uhhimhere | NFC? | 11:42 |
| uhhimhere | oh ok | 11:42 |
| uhhimhere | well its for the 21553 which is a armv6 SoC | 11:43 |
| uhhimhere | and the 21664 is a Armv7 | 11:43 |
| uhhimhere | would that matter or since its the same GPU doesnt matter? | 11:43 |
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| uhhimhere | hi guys just wondering if this graphics stack released for a BCM21553 SoC (Armv6) could be used to build AOSP on a BCM21664(armv7) phone . They both have the same VC4 GPU : www.broadcom.com/docs/support/videocore/Brcm_Android_ICS_Graphics_Stack.tar.gz | 12:12 |
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| RaYmAn | it might be a lot easier to just use libhybris for graphics using the android drivers for the phone | 12:20 |
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| uhhimhere | RaYmAn, where can you get the drivers? | 12:32 |
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| RaYmAn | uhhimhere: from the phone? | 12:36 |
| RaYmAn | or if there is an e.g. CM port or AOSP port | 12:36 |
| uhhimhere | no this is for a CM/AOSP port | 12:36 |
| uhhimhere | how do you get it outta the phone | 12:37 |
| uhhimhere | just copy a binary folder or something | 12:37 |
| uhhimhere | RaYmAn, how do you get the drivers outta the phone? | 12:41 |
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| energycsdx | uhhimhere: yes you can copy blobs from phone, but you should build libhybris against headers that was used for blobs build | 13:15 |
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| uhhimhere | energycsdx: so why even bother w/ aosp then... just dump Sailfish OS over devicekernel & use exported binaries w/ hybris built against stock? | 13:26 |
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| energycsdx | uhhimhere: because you also need bionic lib c with hybris patches | 14:25 |
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| sledges | a bit offtopic: https://www.facebook.com/groups/jollapioneer/permalink/780347355388064/ | 15:22 |
| sledges | but hey it's froyday :D | 15:22 |
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| keithzg | I feel silly that I somehow entirely missed the kickstarter period for TOHKBD. Yeesh, what was I doing with my life back in November? | 19:49 |
| sledges | keithzg: that'll cost you extra ~20€, preorders are still open;) | 19:50 |
| keithzg | sledges: wait, really? ooh! | 19:54 |
| keithzg | Uhh . . . hmm. I appear to be blind because I can't see where to still order. | 19:58 |
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| sledges | keithzg: take your quest from here: http://funkyotherhalf.com/ :) | 20:00 |
| sledges | i should point to dirk that it's hard to find;) | 20:00 |
| keithzg | Hmm yeah I had run into http://funkyotherhalf.com/tohkbdconfigurator/ which at the bottom says "buy it" and has a link, but it's back to kickstarter, so I had been assuming the info for how to purchase it was up on the kickstarter page somewhere. | 20:01 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: Greetings! I'm using N4 as my full-time phone right now. | 20:01 |
| sledges | keithzg: dig deeper;) | 20:02 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: How go things on an official release? | 20:02 |
| keithzg | sledges: Heh yeah, http://funkyotherhalf.com/?page_id=9 seems to be the ticket | 20:02 |
| sledges | dwangoAC: nice? did you burn your headset? ;) | 20:02 |
| sledges | s/nice?/nice!/ | 20:03 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: I managed to find the last corded hands-free kit on the shelf | 20:03 |
| sledges | dwangoAC: things are a go ;) did you see opt-in news?;) | 20:03 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: Since I can't get BT to work; I *was* able to get my Think Outside BT keyboard to work | 20:03 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: No? | 20:03 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: Got a link? | 20:03 |
| sledges | dwangoAC: yes some keyboards work | 20:04 |
| sledges | dwangoAC: https://twitter.com/reviewjolla/status/562626601717071873 | 20:04 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: Making the setting now | 20:08 |
| sledges | dwangoAC: it won't work on n4 ;p | 20:09 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: Awww | 20:09 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: Well, I opted in :) | 20:09 |
| sledges | but it will work for porters:) | 20:10 |
| sledges | who would make a release earlier | 20:10 |
| sledges | so will involve grunt work | 20:10 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: Any news on N4 movement? What I'm running now has a non-functional proximity sensor, annoying problems with vibrate mode only doing a single extremely short vibrate, the camera app crashing frequently, the notification light getting stuck on, and a host of other small annoyances. | 20:10 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: I've been putting off getting a compile environment put together for a while, but I assume that's probably the next logical step | 20:11 |
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| sledges | dwangoAC: indeedski ;) start with biggest scratch:) i'll show u around | 20:12 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: I appreciate it - for starters, is there a document that describes getting a Linux development environment set up? | 20:13 |
| sledges | install a linux distro:) | 20:13 |
| sledges | 64bit | 20:13 |
| sledges | loads of ram | 20:13 |
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| mal- | I activated zram on my port, seems to be working fine | 20:14 |
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| sledges | cool! | 20:14 |
| mal- | however, it does not affect the real problems | 20:14 |
| mal- | but at least that should give some extra memory | 20:15 |
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| * keithzg just pre-ordered TOHKBD2, couldn't resist and also ordered a SolarTOH | 20:16 | |
| * sledges wants a solartoh now :p | 20:16 | |
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| mal- | does it really work? considerig how small the area is | 20:17 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: That's all easy enough, I've got that part already :) | 20:17 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: In my case, Linux Mint | 20:17 |
| keithzg | mal-: claim is, in airplane mode it'll get about 3% per hour. | 20:18 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: And if by loads of RAM you mean truly obscene amounts of RAM, there's a system that won't be in use next week here that has half a tarabyte of RAM | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | -j64 time? | 20:19 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:19 |
| klopsi-u3 | i only have 4GB and things went pretty fast | 20:19 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: Heh | 20:19 |
| mal- | keithzg: ok | 20:19 |
| dwangoAC | My personal experience: In airplane mode, I was able to go three weeks with my N4 sitting on my bedside table before it started plantively beeping at me to plug it in. | 20:20 |
| sledges | dwangoAC: we are talking about solar charger other half for jolla | 20:21 |
| sledges | ;) | 20:21 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: Ahh, cool! | 20:21 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: I missed the context | 20:21 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: And by development enviornment, I was specifically talking about what was required to cross-compile | 20:22 |
| sledges | dwangoAC: read the pdf, in the first link in topic | 20:22 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: Oh, hey, that's been updated! | 20:22 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: OK, thanks. | 20:23 |
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| keithzg | Hmm the lack of definite articles in the SailfishOS tutorial is a bit odd | 20:47 |
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| keithzg | ex. "This is Lock Screen" instead of "This is the Lock Screen". | 20:48 |
| Stskeeps | finnish? | 20:48 |
| sledges | keithzg: i never understood need of articles as per my language, i wasn't writing the docs, but sailors are also from eastern/scandinavian europe;p | 20:49 |
| sledges | dang i should've said docs instead of the docs:p | 20:49 |
| keithzg | hehe | 20:49 |
| keithzg | Yeah, it's not a big deal obviously, it just sounds weird to my native English ears. | 20:50 |
| klopsi-u3 | evening sailors | 20:50 |
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| klopsi-u3 | or fishes | 20:51 |
| sledges | keithzg: link?;) | 20:51 |
| mal- | even non-native ears that sounds a little weird | 20:51 |
| sledges | we'll feed it through microsoft office grammar checker next time:)) | 20:52 |
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| keithzg | Heh. Already skipped through the tutorial so I can't offer exact corrections, although I guess the tutorial text might well exist in plaintext on the device, eh? | 20:53 |
| klopsi-u3 | maybe fixing up grammar isnt the best use of time | 20:54 |
| sledges | keithzg: where is that text? | 20:54 |
| sledges | klopsi-u3: itch scratching: | 20:55 |
| sledges | klopsi-u3: ah ok, the tutorial app | 20:56 |
| sledges | s/ klopsi-u3 / keithzg / | 20:56 |
| keithzg | sledges: When first starting up SailfishOS, it's the tutorial, and the first few things that pop up on screen to describe what's being demonstrated, yeah. | 20:56 |
| sledges | i was lurking about the new sailfishos.org which i could fix on the spot;) | 20:56 |
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| sledges | keithzg: just submitting your the lockscreen suggestion into the internal translation tool | 21:03 |
| sledges | how about | 21:03 |
| sledges | Swipe up again to return to previous view | 21:03 |
| sledges | -> | 21:03 |
| sledges | Swipe up again to return to the previous view | 21:03 |
| sledges | ? | 21:03 |
| sledges | ;) | 21:03 |
| keithzg | Yeah, definitely. | 21:03 |
| sledges | keithzg: done, thanks! | 21:04 |
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| keithzg | sledges: No problem, glad to help! | 21:04 |
| sledges | keithzg: but stylistically avoiding articles is however also an art ;) | 21:05 |
| faenil | sledges: any idea why irssi highlighted me on keithzg's msg? :/ | 21:05 |
| sledges | they are implied | 21:05 |
| sledges | faenil: which msg?;) | 21:05 |
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| faenil | sledges: No problem, glad to help | 21:06 |
| faenil | keithzg: can you write it again? | 21:06 |
| sledges | faenil: ? ;) | 21:06 |
| sledges | lol ok | 21:06 |
| sledges | No problem, glad to help | 21:06 |
| keithzg | Odd that that'd highlight you, yeah | 21:07 |
| keithzg | sledges: No problem, glad to help | 21:07 |
| Stskeeps | faenil hilights on 'problem' | 21:07 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:07 |
| keithzg | heh | 21:07 |
| faenil | haha | 21:07 |
| faenil | yeah it highlighted me again! | 21:07 |
| faenil | -.- | 21:07 |
| keithzg | Weird | 21:16 |
| sledges | Stskeeps stop hacking faenil's irc configs | 21:17 |
| faenil | isn't there a way to highlight me even when faenil is just part of the word? | 21:17 |
| faenil | I want to be highlighted on "faenilsucks" for instance :P | 21:17 |
| sledges | /hilight | 21:17 |
| sledges | 23:17 6 sledg[eas]+ -regexp | 21:17 |
| sledges | 23:17 7 sledg | 21:17 |
| sledges | one of them works | 21:18 |
| sledges | :D | 21:18 |
| faenil | :D | 21:18 |
| faenil | wtf | 21:19 |
| faenil | Hilight: 1 help | 21:19 |
| faenil | now all is clear :P | 21:19 |
| sledges | :D | 21:19 |
| sledges | tell a lot about you ;) | 21:19 |
| faenil | haha | 21:20 |
| sledges | i have | 21:20 |
| sledges | 23:17 5 Pull request.*opened #mer-boss -regexp -color %k | 21:20 |
| faenil | I may leave that :D | 21:20 |
| sledges | which sadly never worked | 21:20 |
| sledges | :D | 21:20 |
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| faenil | ok highlighting is fixed \o/ | 21:32 |
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| keithzg | Hmm I'm really not that experienced with systemd yet, clearly; how do I actually tell it to go ahead and remount something defined in a /etc/systemd/system/local-fs.target.wants/*.mount file? The classic "mount" command has no idea since the target isn't defined in fstab. | 21:38 |
| keithzg | I'm sure a reboot would accomplish this, but that's just me avoiding learning then ;) | 21:39 |
| sledges | systemctl restart blabla.mout ? | 21:39 |
| sledges | just a long shot really | 21:39 |
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| keithzg | sledges: actually, that did it! Although since I had changed the definition it warned me that I also had to run "systemctl daemon-reload" too. | 21:40 |
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| keithzg | I mean, I'm going to have to reboot it anyways now, but it's definitely good for me to start leaning how to deal with systemd, heh, especially since I'm tempted to upgrade one of the core servers at work to Jessie once it's released. | 21:43 |
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| keithzg | Hmm, is it expected that the Nexus 4 won't see 5.0GHz networks? The radio itself can definitely do so, since I was connected to one earlier today in Android. | 22:12 |
| nykac | kimmoli: you need a special radio version I think | 22:13 |
| kimmoli | ? | 22:14 |
| keithzg | kimmoli: methinks nykac got tripped up trying to single-letter tab complete my nick, heh | 22:14 |
| keithzg | nykac: Oh, well it doesn't work at all unless I have radio-mako-m9615a-cefwmazm-2.0.1700.48.img mounted as /firmware | 22:14 |
| nykac | keithzg: I got it working with the previous build once | 22:15 |
| nykac | keithzg: I think i used .39 | 22:15 |
| keithzg | nykac: actually using 5GHz? Huh, here I was just assuming it was an issue with connman's config or such, that it didn't even know to search for 5GHz networks. | 22:16 |
| nykac | keithzg: yes | 22:16 |
| nykac | keithzg: but that version had qt 5.1 and there were a lot of issues with apps crashing | 22:17 |
| nykac | because of 5.1 5.2 version mismatch | 22:17 |
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