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| carepack | good morning | 08:22 |
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| klopsi-u3 | morning carepack | 08:37 |
| locusf | morning | 08:38 |
| carepack | hi | 08:39 |
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| ChrisPHL | hi @all | 08:49 |
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| hard_coretex | locusf, hows pi-sail going? | 08:54 |
| locusf | hard_coretex: I was thinking about doing 1.1.2.15 today | 08:54 |
| locusf | but later in the vening though | 08:54 |
| locusf | and doing a pure adaptation this time | 08:55 |
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| uuhimhere | locusf, what are you going to do about LCD? | 09:12 |
| locusf | uuhimhere: I don't know yet, I tried linuxfb yesterday and got mouse cursor | 09:14 |
| uuhimhere | you should design a case as well for it... maybe even make it an "other half" for the Jolla XD?? | 09:15 |
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| locusf | lol that'd be cool too :) | 09:19 |
| locusf | I wonder if pi has i2c | 09:19 |
| locusf | probably not but a good idea | 09:19 |
| uuhimhere | yeah | 09:19 |
| uuhimhere | other half uses i2c? | 09:20 |
| locusf | yeah | 09:20 |
| locusf | and nfc | 09:20 |
| uuhimhere | isnt i2c for Si modules | 09:20 |
| uuhimhere | between processors etc | 09:20 |
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| locusf | I mean I squared C | 09:23 |
| uuhimhere | sorry i was confused with something else | 09:24 |
| locusf | np | 09:24 |
| locusf | there is i2c for raspberry pi | 09:25 |
| locusf | anyone up for tohkbd for raspberry pi 2 ? | 09:27 |
| uuhimhere | that would be cool | 09:31 |
| locusf | kimmoli: would think its possible even in theory :) ? | 09:33 |
| uuhimhere | locusf, if you pull off sailfish on a pi w/ gsm im pretty sure the floodgates would be pried open | 09:34 |
| locusf | uuhimhere: I'd first need the damn gsm board first :) | 09:34 |
| uuhimhere | yup | 09:35 |
| uuhimhere | what would you use | 09:35 |
| uuhimhere | any candidates? | 09:35 |
| locusf | the one I've looked at only does it directly to the GPIO pins, but I've got the touchscreen there | 09:35 |
| locusf | I only need RX TX 5V GND for the modem | 09:36 |
| carepack | gsm,gprs,gps for 11,50€ | 09:36 |
| carepack | https://store.open-electronics.org/index.php?_route_=Linux_Embedded/GSM_Expansion_Raspberry | 09:36 |
| carepack | maybe? | 09:37 |
| uuhimhere | yeah it looks like you could plop an LCD over that? | 09:38 |
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| locusf | carepack: nice good find :) | 09:43 |
| uuhimhere | locusf, http://www.cooking-hacks.com/documentation/tutorials/raspberry-pi-3g-gprs-gsm-gps | 09:44 |
| carepack | ;) np | 09:44 |
| locusf | 91,45with shipping ... | 09:47 |
| carepack | uuuhhhh | 09:49 |
| uuhimhere | which one | 09:49 |
| locusf | I added to cart with the GSM breakout board + gsm antenna | 09:50 |
| locusf | which that one needs | 09:50 |
| locusf | shipping is 16 | 09:50 |
| locusf | lol well its still cheaper than a Jolla :D | 09:51 |
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| uuhimhere | lol | 09:53 |
| uuhimhere | haxolla | 09:53 |
| locusf | Piolla :) | 09:54 |
| uuhimhere | piolla :) | 09:55 |
| uuhimhere | sounds like paella | 09:55 |
| uuhimhere | frankenolla | 09:56 |
| uuhimhere | lol | 09:56 |
| locusf | heheh :) | 09:56 |
| uuhimhere | http://www.cooking-hacks.com/3g-gprs-shield-for-raspberry-pi-3g-gps | 09:58 |
| uuhimhere | 190 | 09:58 |
| uuhimhere | XD | 09:58 |
| uuhimhere | lol | 09:58 |
| uuhimhere | 40 euros for that arduino to pi adapter | 09:58 |
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| locusf | yeah | 09:59 |
| locusf | oh hey its payday next week | 09:59 |
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| locusf | do you guys really wanna see this pulled off :) ? | 10:00 |
| uuhimhere | ++ | 10:00 |
| uuhimhere | how often do you see a homemade cellphone running on a fancy smancy phone OS? | 10:01 |
| locusf | not every day :) | 10:01 |
| tbr | there's a brazillion of dev-boards running android. hooking it up with a stupid AT-command RIL and a modem shouldn't be that hard | 10:04 |
| locusf | yeah so it loses its novelty factor a bit | 10:04 |
| locusf | but sailfishos makes this unique | 10:04 |
| kimmoli | locusf: wut? | 10:04 |
| locusf | kimmoli: tohs for raspberry pi | 10:05 |
| kimmoli | there is HATs :) | 10:05 |
| locusf | kimmoli: theres i2c onboard | 10:05 |
| kimmoli | yes. just need to adjust the voltagelevel of i2c | 10:05 |
| tbr | too bad that pi by defintion are non-free non-starters | 10:06 |
| uuhimhere | tbr, how do you mean? | 10:07 |
| tbr | uuhimhere: needs binary blob to even boot → nope | 10:07 |
| uuhimhere | tbr, but thats well documented no? | 10:08 |
| tbr | uuhimhere: yes, cyanide is also well documented, still not going to take it just because of its great documentation. | 10:08 |
| tbr | hardware that needs a binary to boot is a big nope. | 10:09 |
| uuhimhere | tbr, you wanna eat the pi? why? | 10:09 |
| tbr | I prefer my pie without chunks of PBC and silicon, thank you. | 10:09 |
| tbr | in addition neither are OSHW, just makes it further 'meh' | 10:11 |
| locusf | all to their flavors | 10:11 |
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| locusf | uuhimhere: I made the order :) | 10:14 |
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| uuhimhere | locusf, nice! | 10:20 |
| uuhimhere | well | 10:20 |
| uuhimhere | itd be nice to see it running sailfish os & making phone calls! | 10:20 |
| uuhimhere | tbr, yeah well maybe you and RMS can come up with a blob-free phone from GPU to GSM and hopefully youd do better than openmoko | 10:21 |
| tbr | uuhimhere: there are plenty of SoCs that don't require a blob to boot. I'm not as fundamental about things as RMS, thank you. | 10:22 |
| uuhimhere | tbr, what difference does it make whether it needs a blob to boot or if it needs a blob to print hello world or a blob to make a phone call to your mom or a blob to connect to a wifi access point? | 10:23 |
| uuhimhere | a blobs a blob and your point is moot in the context that we're in | 10:23 |
| tbr | that's in my opinion dangerous ignorance of important topics | 10:24 |
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| Stskeeps | http://blog.simplicify.me/bad-zway.html | 10:24 |
| uuhimhere | tbr, splitting hairs is in my opinion dangerous | 10:26 |
| tbr | uuhimhere: so you're saying blobs are cool, as long as somewhere you can run your own software? go and run windows then, thanks. (hyperbole to make a point) | 10:28 |
| uuhimhere | tbr, no. im saying you are in context, in a blob dependent field. | 10:29 |
| uuhimhere | tbr, a smartphone is nothing more than a conglomeration of plastic and glass if not for all the blobs that make it function as a phone | 10:29 |
| tbr | I'm saying "look there is all this hardware that doesn't need a blob to boot" and you start frantic handwaving trying to divert the topic | 10:29 |
| uuhimhere | na na | 10:30 |
| uuhimhere | youre the frantic handwaiver | 10:30 |
| uuhimhere | im just saying this is the phone world | 10:30 |
| uuhimhere | the fact is the BCM shares pedigree with a bunch of smartphone socs that could benefit from sailfish on PI2 as well | 10:30 |
| uuhimhere | the BCM blob boot thing is just another different iteration of control from the same set of philosophical ideas in the smartphone world | 10:31 |
| tbr | it is fundamentally different in the fact that you can't boot without it. I can run a board without 3D graphics just fine if I don't want that blob. I actually do that for embedded applications. | 10:32 |
| uuhimhere | we're not talking about running boards | 10:32 |
| uuhimhere | we're talking about building a smartphone | 10:33 |
| locusf | sigh | 10:33 |
| uuhimhere | a homemade smartphone with a fancy smancy OS | 10:33 |
| tbr | and that must have as many blobs as possible, I understand. | 10:33 |
| tbr | have a nice day *plonk* | 10:33 |
| uuhimhere | lol ok well why dont you come up with a "tbr's acceptable number of blobs for smartphone development" guide :P | 10:34 |
| uuhimhere | anyways i think it would be cool to build a homemade smartphone that could run a fancy OS like sailfish | 10:37 |
| uuhimhere | and at 35 bucks | 10:37 |
| uuhimhere | the pi2 is very enticing | 10:38 |
| klopsi-u3 | the odroid c1 is an alternative to the pi2 | 10:41 |
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| tbr | that at least seems to be directly supported by u-boot | 10:49 |
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| uuhimhere | well tell that to locusf , its his project | 10:51 |
| uuhimhere | if you guys wanna do it on the odroid all the better! | 10:51 |
| uuhimhere | more homemade options! | 10:51 |
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| uuhimhere | i personally still like the pi2 just because the sheer volume of its userbase implies that if something like this gets off the chances of further innovation/development/mods is higher. | 10:57 |
| klopsi-u3 | i think 5 million pi1s have been sold | 10:59 |
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| klopsi-u3 | somehow they had good marketing and a good name | 10:59 |
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| ruthenianboy | hi all | 11:02 |
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| klopsi-u3 | hi ruthenianboy | 11:03 |
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| klopsi-u3 | what rule did he violate? i dont want to make the same mistake | 11:09 |
| tbr | who? | 11:09 |
| klopsi-u3 | uhhimhere | 11:09 |
| tbr | ah, ignore and all that... | 11:09 |
| klopsi-u3 | just got banned | 11:10 |
| tbr | if you haven't followed, he's been annoying many people on IRC | 11:10 |
| tbr | and his attitude doesn't help | 11:10 |
| tbr | so I guess he managed to piss someone off enough | 11:10 |
| klopsi-u3 | ok i guess I am safe then | 11:10 |
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| supaflu | why did uuhimhere get banned | 11:11 |
| tbr | and I guess if you want to know which rule. I'd say "wheaton's law" | 11:11 |
| supaflu | ha | 11:12 |
| supaflu | ok.... | 11:12 |
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| Stskeeps | wheaton's law. i should have warned more accurately, but proceeding to then ban evading several times is as best sign as you get for bad behaviour. if we are being jerks to eachother nobody wants to participate in the channel. | 11:19 |
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| tbr | indeed | 11:29 |
| vakkov | guys, can you open review.cyanogenmod.org | 11:32 |
| ruthenianboy | looks like busybox in ramdisk is not proper. Getting segmentation fault for 'date' and 'ps -wlT' included in init script. But other functions are working. | 11:33 |
| RaYmAn | vakkov: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/review.cyanogenmod.org/ | 11:33 |
| vakkov | i always forget about those :D | 11:33 |
| kimmoli | locusf: Piolla ? | 11:33 |
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| locusf | kimmoli: I have no imagination, sorry :p | 11:34 |
| ruthenianboy | i mean commands instead of functions | 11:35 |
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| vakkov | now, that's new - http://pastebin.com/pyXb8bdT | 11:44 |
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| vakkov | sledges: i decided to open the browser for the first time (i think) in upd 10 - http://pastebin.com/TPmTFJV2 | 11:57 |
| vakkov | the journal is in the message above | 11:57 |
| locusf | vakkov: which device? | 11:57 |
| vakkov | maguro | 11:57 |
| locusf | oh | 11:58 |
| locusf | haven't touched it in a while | 11:58 |
| vakkov | you are probably running glacier on it anyway :P | 11:58 |
| locusf | yes :p | 11:58 |
| carepack | tbr: googled wheatons law. vey funny | 12:08 |
| tbr | it's short and to the point | 12:08 |
| carepack | :-) | 12:08 |
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| piggz | is it possible to build a .11 preview version image for ports? | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | probably if you know the release number | 13:31 |
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| piggz | Stskeeps: 1.1.2.15 according to my g+ | 13:35 |
| locusf | I just did for rpi2 | 13:35 |
| piggz | i wonder if its something i could manage in my post-newyork tired state | 13:38 |
| sledges | (pun) | 13:39 |
| piggz | i wondered if there was some limiting to the release dir depeneding on if ppl opted into it | 13:41 |
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| stephg | Aard had said over in #jollamobile that the subscribers were about what he hoped for but less than he expected; I note that the weather app as 1k+ downloads now, even if that's an inaccurate indirect indication | 15:02 |
| stephg | (if that's what you mean piggz) | 15:04 |
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| vgrade | just seen this news, http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0LM05X20150218?irpc=932 , sad | 15:25 |
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| piggz | im clearly too tired to build an updated ace image .... its all going fine, until creating the final .zip :/ | 15:38 |
| piggz | zip error: invalid command arguments (short option 'a' not supported) | 15:38 |
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| sledges | piggz: does it complain about sailfish-release file not found ? | 15:51 |
| piggz | sledges: yes | 15:52 |
| piggz | its not done this before ... what should be in sailfish-release? | 15:53 |
| sledges | sec | 15:54 |
| piggz | there is a .3 hadk now? i missed that | 15:54 |
| sledges | fix is not in .3 | 15:55 |
| sledges | as it's just a fresh release | 15:55 |
| sledges | cp $INSTALL_ROOT/etc/sailfish-release $IMG_OUT_DIR | 15:55 |
| sledges | add this to %post --nochroot | 15:55 |
| sledges | in .ks | 15:55 |
| piggz | k | 15:55 |
| sledges | and remove sailfish-release from %attachments | 15:56 |
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| piggz | sledges: whats the .diff between hadk .2 and .3 ? | 15:58 |
| sledges | piggz: bugfixes | 15:58 |
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| piggz | sledges: cp: cannot stat `/etc/sailfish-release': No such file or directory | 16:07 |
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| sledges | piggz: do your patterns contain sailfish-version? just add it to .ks %packages for better measure | 16:12 |
| piggz | sledges: hmm, well, the package count hasnt increased | 16:14 |
| piggz | still 644 | 16:14 |
| piggz | yep, its in the .packages files | 16:16 |
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| piggz | sledges: what is used as the rootfs install dir? | 16:20 |
| sledges | ? | 16:22 |
| piggz | sledges: where do the rpms get installed before being bzip'd? | 16:22 |
| sledges | why'd need that? | 16:23 |
| piggz | just to see if the file is there | 16:23 |
| sledges | piggz: bunzip ;) | 16:24 |
| sledges | now files are gone | 16:24 |
| sledges | installroot somewhere in mic cache, dunno | 16:24 |
| piggz | i found it | 16:24 |
| piggz | /home/piggz/mer/sdks/sdk/var/tmp/mic/imgcreate-dJpf0p | 16:24 |
| sledges | yap | 16:24 |
| sledges | inside sailfish-version you'll find sailfish-release.template, but on rootfs it should be finalised | 16:25 |
| sledges | and .ks should find it | 16:25 |
| sledges | or there's some other error | 16:25 |
| sledges | which i've not come across internally | 16:25 |
| piggz | looks ok so far | 16:26 |
| piggz | sledges: http://pastebin.com/KUfhG9Ue | 16:27 |
| sledges | but cp is not picking it up hmmmm | 16:28 |
| piggz | yup.... | 16:29 |
| piggz | sledges: sorry, my bad | 16:30 |
| piggz | i didnt see the %end | 16:30 |
| sledges | k | 16:32 |
| sledges | post-newyork state :D | 16:32 |
| piggz | sledges: im still warming up https://www.flickr.com/photos/adampigg/ | 16:34 |
| sledges | good stuff, im sure you had a ball;) | 16:37 |
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| piggz | sledges: 1.1.2.15 still has broke Qt??? | 19:16 |
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| ruthenianboy | Good evening guys. I am not able to get diagnostic access to hybris-recovery. I see some errors in dmesg on host machine. Could some check it an advise? Thanks. http://pastebin.com/GMirPAmx | 19:43 |
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| mal- | ruthenianboy: does usb0 interface show up in host computer ifconfig -a? | 20:10 |
| ruthenianboy | yes, and i tried to assign IP to that interface but cant telnet to that IP | 20:12 |
| mal- | which ip have you tried to telnet? | 20:14 |
| mal- | and port | 20:14 |
| mal- | should be 192.168.2.15 port 23 | 20:16 |
| ruthenianboy | I tried this ip and port but connection is refused. It points to host machine instead of phone. I have init.log if you want to check | 20:18 |
| mal- | ok | 20:18 |
| mal- | why would that ip point to host machine? | 20:18 |
| mal- | also pastebin ifconfig -a of host machine | 20:19 |
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| ruthenianboy | I am not at home now. Will post later. But usb0 is present in ifconfig -a. | 20:20 |
| mal- | the ip of that interface interests me | 20:21 |
| ruthenianboy | Btw, what about that errors in dmesg? It can't be caused by this? | 20:27 |
| mal- | no idea what causes those but since after those everything looks ok I don't think it's a problem | 20:28 |
| carepack | good evening senors | 20:40 |
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| dwangoAC | carepack: Good evening carepack - thanks for the N4 work | 20:41 |
| dwangoAC | carepack: Is there anything after Beta 3? | 20:41 |
| carepack | dwangoAC: hihi | 20:42 |
| carepack | until now no :-( | 20:42 |
| carepack | we're working on | 20:42 |
| dwangoAC | carepack: No worries, I hope to compile from source soon | 20:42 |
| carepack | you'll setting up the environment? | 20:42 |
| dwangoAC | carepack: I started on it two weeks ago but then a series of unfortunate events happened | 20:44 |
| carepack | real life ;) | 20:45 |
| carepack | hope nothing bad?! | 20:45 |
| dwangoAC | carepack: Tree fell on our house | 20:45 |
| carepack | uuuhhhh | 20:46 |
| dwangoAC | carepack: Car blew a head gasket (it's almost done getting a new top end) | 20:46 |
| carepack | that's bad | 20:46 |
| carepack | insurance? | 20:46 |
| dwangoAC | carepack: Oh, and the con artist who put my mom in the hospital and stole her car last year showed back up and we couldn't find my mom for two weeks | 20:46 |
| dwangoAC | carepack: We finally found her in a homeless shelter in Tulsa, OK (just talked to her yesterday for the first time in a couple of weeks) | 20:46 |
| dwangoAC | She's OK, but it hasn't been a good situation | 20:47 |
| carepack | omg | 20:47 |
| carepack | that's normally not real life. rather movies. | 20:48 |
| dwangoAC | carepack: I'd almost prefer it if I made all that up, but that's really what happened | 20:48 |
| Stskeeps | truth is sometimes a lot stranger than fiction | 20:48 |
| carepack | rigth word! | 20:49 |
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| dwangoAC | carepack: Anyway, life is *finally* getting to be a bit more normal | 20:49 |
| dwangoAC | carepack: My hope is to compile and see if I can sort out a few things that are really bothering me | 20:49 |
| dwangoAC | carepack: At the top of my list is seeing if there is some way to get the phone to vibrate more than once on an incoming phonecall when the ringer is turned off | 20:50 |
| carepack | happy for you | 20:50 |
| dwangoAC | I keep missing phonecalls | 20:50 |
| carepack | because of that | 20:50 |
| dwangoAC | carepack: Also, I want to troubleshoot what's going on with bluetoothd going to 100% when I attach my hands-free kit | 20:50 |
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| carepack | cool. :-). Everytime when you connect or found a possible workaround? | 20:52 |
| dwangoAC | carepack: Pairing works fine but for as long as the device is on it goes to 100% CPU | 20:52 |
| dwangoAC | carepack: As soon as I turn off the switch on my hands-free device CPU usage returns to normal | 20:52 |
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| carepack | ok. hope you'll in combo with others fipgure it out | 20:53 |
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| carepack | would somebody have a look on this please: http://pastebin.com/t7Ur7t06 | 20:57 |
| carepack | coming up during build the android hal | 20:57 |
| carepack | device = mako | 20:58 |
| carepack | hybris = 11.0 | 20:58 |
| piggz | sledges: i modified the .ks file again, in the --nochroot section, adding this which make it work much better on the ace | 21:00 |
| piggz | sed -i '/^\[Service\]/s/$/\nTimeoutSec=120/' $INSTALL_ROOT/usr/lib/systemd/user/lipstick.service | 21:00 |
| carepack | another question would be... in the main.mk file the target is defined as droid. But this got nothing to do with the droid directory or? | 21:00 |
| neothemachine | I'm new, so maybe stupid question: when porting a phone supported by CM, why is it really necessary to fork the whole CM kernel repo for that device? I mean, if it already runs on CM, wouldn't it be enough to create some generic porting process/tool which just has a small set of config files for each phone, instead of having to maintain the forked repo for each and every device? | 21:26 |
| neothemachine | after reading the pdf about porting I'm really not motivated anymore as it all seems very repetitive. So, am I wrong? What didn't I consider here? | 21:26 |
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| dwangoAC | neothemachine: I sort of ran out of time after starting on the .PDF file myself and while I can't answer your question I'd be interested in the answer | 21:32 |
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| dwangoAC | neothemachine: Hopefully sledges will reply when he's on next | 21:33 |
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| stephg | neothemachine: evidently it's not enough ;) | 21:35 |
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| neothemachine | well, maybe it was just the straightforward thing to do for a single device, but I really can't imagine this for all of CMs devices | 21:36 |
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| stephg | neothemachine: there's a spread of kernels across all devices even with 'the same' CM versions | 21:38 |
| stephg | so why's that a surprise? | 21:38 |
| stephg | which device in particular are you interested in btw? | 21:38 |
| neothemachine | the sony ericsson xperia ray | 21:39 |
| neothemachine | what do you mean with spread of kernels? different kernel versions? | 21:39 |
| stephg | versions (whose trees may vary wildly), build options,device specific blobs to build against with their own requirements, and probably plenty more | 21:44 |
| neothemachine | sure, but this exists at CM already, so I guess my real question is: what kind of modifications are necessary to make it compatible to sailfish? because if it's just general improvements, then this should probably be done in CM directly, right? | 21:47 |
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| stephg | it's not about modifying CM per se, it's the CM kernel playing nicely with libhybris and vice versa | 21:51 |
| stephg | if there's a problem and you need to change one or the other, then you need the source | 21:53 |
| neothemachine | ok now we're getting closer, and libhybris is the interface between kernel and sailfish? | 21:55 |
| stephg | between bionic c and glibc | 21:56 |
| stephg | neothemachine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybris_%28software%29 | 21:57 |
| neothemachine | ok right, so it's a compatibility layer to run any native code that is written for android | 22:00 |
| stephg | well it lets you run 'linuxish' things on hardware using 'native' android drivers | 22:02 |
| vakkov | actually this definition is kinda close since apkenv that is actually a layer that runs some native android code uses the same linker functions - https://github.com/thp/apkenv/commit/a5c666839578cfa11e4fb98116e4ca20a2ae2125?diff=unified | 22:04 |
| stephg | someone finally joins that knows what they're talking about ;) | 22:06 |
| neothemachine | but it still sounds like it should "just" work, so the specific changes required in the kernel repos are still somehow a mystery for me | 22:06 |
| vakkov | the changes are required by Mer to run :D :D | 22:07 |
| vakkov | read the hadk, kernel section pls, it should be written there (i suppose) | 22:07 |
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| neothemachine | yes, it mentions only that some configuration options must be enabled or disabled | 22:09 |
| neothemachine | ah sorry, wait... the section before that has more info | 22:10 |
| vakkov | there are cgroup and systemd configs that are needed; what is the problem with that | 22:12 |
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| neothemachine | no these are fine, and it were only these they I would have said why not *just* maintain these configs, but yeah, in section 12.2 it mentions all the other things in "lower levels of Android [that] need to be modified" | 22:14 |
| neothemachine | *and if it were only these then | 22:15 |
| neothemachine | so if I wanted to port a new device, then I would have to fish out the relevant commits from the existing forks I guess? Because section 12.2 doesn't contain all the necessary details for the required changes | 22:18 |
| stephg | well the changes depend per device | 22:21 |
| neothemachine | aha, no wait! all the things described in 12.2 are generic and not part of the kernel repos, so we're back to the fact that the kernel repos should only need config changes according to 12.3 | 22:24 |
| neothemachine | I think the kernel section should be expanded a bit as there's apparently more to it as you say | 22:25 |
| sledges | this channel is the expansion of hadk ;) | 22:25 |
| neothemachine | maybe it's better to take an example... https://github.com/mer-hybris/android_kernel_samsung_tuna/commit/9bffa998135c38e8fb3673a1617f676b92d48029 | 22:32 |
| neothemachine | sledges: can you say what kind of changes these are? where do they come from and why aren't they in CM? | 22:32 |
| sledges | neothemachine: click on the #2 of the PR | 22:35 |
| sledges | the whole explanatios is right there | 22:36 |
| sledges | soz, #4 | 22:36 |
| * sledges keeps reading the backscroll | 22:37 | |
| neothemachine | I don't really mean the content, but this patch also applies to CM, so shouldn't it be applied there and then be merged downstream? | 22:37 |
| stephg | o/ sledgsticles :) | 22:37 |
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| sledges | neothemachine: it's been backported | 22:38 |
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| dwangoAC | stephg: That... is one very odd pet name for sledges :) | 22:38 |
| neothemachine | ah I see | 22:38 |
| stephg | dwangoAC :) | 22:38 |
| sledges | hey fiddlestephgsticks! | 22:39 |
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| stephg | \o/ | 22:39 |
| sledges | just came back from yet another panto :P | 22:39 |
| sledges | (oh yes I have) | 22:39 |
| stephg | he's behind you! | 22:40 |
| sledges | you're not following the script:)) | 22:40 |
| neothemachine | thanks guys, I think I have a better understanding now of why the forks are useful | 22:41 |
| sledges | neothemachine: we try to mod kernel or androidy bits as less as possible | 22:41 |
| sledges | only touch kernel config is main aim | 22:42 |
| sledges | yet inevitable | 22:42 |
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| neothemachine | how big is the kernel actually? the whole repo is 10GiB says the pdf, that's why I was a bit scared of creating forks all over the place just to modify one or two config files | 22:44 |
| neothemachine | maybe shallow cloning would be a good way to save some disk space and bandwidth | 22:45 |
| sledges | neothemachine: hybris-10.1 is already trimmed several gigs as compared to cm, so only needed bits are pulled | 22:47 |
| sledges | 11.0 build is less trimmed, so it results in 20G after source checkout and make hybris-hal | 22:48 |
| sledges | mobile making is a hungry thing ;) (enough to look at build machine min specs) | 22:49 |
| neothemachine | so shallow cloning is already used? | 22:49 |
| mal- | normal cm-11 took 50 GB after compiling on my system | 22:49 |
| neothemachine | oops | 22:49 |
| sledges | no, shallow cloning is not used | 22:50 |
| mal- | so hybris takes a lot less than that | 22:50 |
| neothemachine | but what do you mean with trimming then? I mean, even if you remove files and commit that, it's still in the git history? | 22:50 |
| sledges | it just doesn't clone projects it doesn't need | 22:50 |
| neothemachine | ah I see | 22:51 |
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| neothemachine | so you could actually really save some space with shallow cloning, considering how huge the kernel repo is | 22:51 |
| sledges | and best not to shallow clone, as you never know what project you'll need to debug once you dig deeper into your device | 22:51 |
| sledges | especially the kernel | 22:51 |
| neothemachine | hm? | 22:51 |
| sledges | is best to save commit history for traces | 22:51 |
| sledges | git blames | 22:52 |
| sledges | and file histories | 22:52 |
| sledges | when e.g. you're porting bluetooth to work | 22:52 |
| sledges | and such | 22:52 |
| neothemachine | I thought with newer git versions this is all more transparent, so that you can load old history if you want at a later point | 22:52 |
| sledges | disk space issue has been negligible thus far ;) we concentrate on porting, which is resource hungry ;) | 22:53 |
| sledges | and kernel repo is big, but not as big as the rest of cm projects | 22:54 |
| neothemachine | ok, maybe I should just give it a try and then come back here, I'm sure then I have different troubles than disk space as well :p | 22:54 |
| sledges | so you woldn't gain much | 22:54 |
| sledges | :)) | 22:54 |
| sledges | disk space will be the last thing on your mind ;) having a ball porting is what keeps us buzzing here:) | 22:54 |
| sledges | neothemachine: do you have 64big build host? | 22:56 |
| sledges | *64bit | 22:56 |
| neothemachine | yes | 22:56 |
| sledges | ok good | 22:56 |
| sledges | so these usually come with lots of ram and also big harddrives, no? ;) | 22:56 |
| neothemachine | by the way, has anyone ever tried it in a hw-accelerated vm? | 22:56 |
| neothemachine | yes, I have 16gig of ram | 22:57 |
| sledges | sailfish SDK runs in a vm | 22:57 |
| sledges | the emulator | 22:57 |
| sledges | ... | 22:57 |
| sledges | profit | 22:57 |
| sledges | :) | 22:57 |
| neothemachine | I actually upgraded a few weeks ago, so also nice new cpu | 22:57 |
| sledges | i7? | 22:57 |
| neothemachine | i5, don't need hyper threading | 22:57 |
| * sledges just got himself an i7... on a laptop:)) | 22:58 | |
| neothemachine | 3.2ghz quad, should be enough | 22:58 |
| sledges | to use as build box while travelling | 22:58 |
| sledges | yea, now im jealous :D | 22:58 |
| neothemachine | wow, I hope it doesn't fry itself :D | 22:58 |
| sledges | good point, the rackserver here (with gutted half-fans due to noise reduction) has never heated up when building hybris | 22:59 |
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| sledges | dead proof meaning that we just build a required minimum | 22:59 |
| sledges | yet when time came for me to build the whole aosp, i thought i can cook eggs | 22:59 |
| neothemachine | haha | 22:59 |
| sledges | so, laptop is safe as long as it's sailfish:) | 22:59 |
| sledges | (haven't tried yet though:)) | 23:00 |
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| neothemachine | so, the thing is, CM doesn't support xperia ray for >10, and I need 10.1 right? would it be tricky to use what these guys did: https://legacyxperia.github.io/ ? | 23:01 |
| sledges | neothemachine: you're not the first one | 23:01 |
| neothemachine | that's good | 23:02 |
| ruthenianboy | I was fighting with kernel config today as output .config was not the same as defconfig file. Reason was defaults in Kconfig files. | 23:02 |
| sledges | mal-: ^^ | 23:02 |
| mal- | neothemachine: how about using legacyxperia? | 23:03 |
| sledges | ruthenianboy: shouldn't config override default? | 23:03 |
| mal- | neothemachine: in legacyxperia there is Xperia Ray (urushi) in supported list | 23:03 |
| neothemachine | mal-: yeah exactly, just wondering if there's anything different to do, I haven't started yet | 23:03 |
| mal- | I am using legacyxperia kernel in my port | 23:04 |
| mal- | xperia pro | 23:04 |
| neothemachine | cool, do you have a repo link or something? | 23:04 |
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| ruthenianboy | sledges: i thought that .config is generated from defconfig directly, but it is overrided by defaults in some way. Warkround was to chcange relevant defaults in Kconfigs | 23:05 |
| mal- | neothemachine: not for kernel yet, and since there are different kernel configs for all devices it wouldn't help you | 23:06 |
| neothemachine | mal-: ok, sure, just wanted to have a look at something which is possibly somehow maybe similar | 23:06 |
| vakkov | sledges: welcome to the i7 mobile club then :) | 23:07 |
| mal- | neothemachine: I have some repos for porting here https://github.com/mlehtima?tab=repositories , but those are basically just what comes out after doing as hadk says | 23:08 |
| neothemachine | by the way, is it planned that there is some kind of central place to upload ported sailfish images? like the CM download section | 23:08 |
| sledges | neothemachine: mal- : is legacyxperia providing only kernel(and device repo?) that you botch on top of cm-10.1? | 23:09 |
| ruthenianboy | mal: i solved connection issue finally. It was easy - to reconnect cable after fastboot upload to get phone recognized again :D | 23:09 |
| sledges | vakkov: thanks:)) | 23:09 |
| mal- | ruthenianboy: it does that also on my system sometimes | 23:09 |
| mal- | I mean during booting it just loses things and reconnecting cable helps | 23:10 |
| mal- | sledges: mainly yes | 23:10 |
| sledges | neothemachine: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 23:11 |
| sledges | neothemachine: and there were some joint efforts by Nokius_ to do this https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Devices but stood still for a bit | 23:12 |
| neothemachine | sledges: yes I saw this before and was a bit confused because so many devices were not linked to some page where the effort takes place | 23:12 |
| sledges | irc is the meet point;) | 23:13 |
| sledges | is a very dynamic activity | 23:13 |
| neothemachine | ok, how long is the android porting been going on already? | 23:13 |
| sledges | over 6 months | 23:14 |
| sledges | always room for improvements | 23:14 |
| neothemachine | all right, then it's fine, 6 months are like nothing | 23:14 |
| stephg | well you had devices on show at MWC last year and the first hadk must have been a couple of months after that | 23:14 |
| ruthenianboy | mal: now i am able to connect. In init.log i seen segmentation fault for date applet of busybox. But still better than nothing :) | 23:15 |
| neothemachine | sleeping time, see you soon I hope! | 23:16 |
| sledges | internally in jolla it all started in the end of 2013 | 23:16 |
| sledges | o/ | 23:16 |
| stephg | night neothemachine | 23:16 |
| klopsi-u3 | cu neothemachine | 23:16 |
| mal- | ruthenianboy: that should not matter, as long as everything else is ok | 23:17 |
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| klopsi-u3 | the only way to install windows is while drinking | 23:18 |
| stephg | right I'm going to follow him/her. Good night folks see you tomorrow or sunday, and happy hacking as always | 23:18 |
| klopsi-u3 | happy sleeptime stephg | 23:18 |
| sledges | n!n | 23:18 |
| ruthenianboy | I am porting for lg l90 (D405n), later will do other LGs if this port will be successfull. | 23:18 |
| sledges | cool! | 23:19 |
| sledges | glad u have an unlocked one ruthenianboy | 23:20 |
| mal- | ruthenianboy: so if you can telnet into the init then you should make sure everything is mounted correctly and sailfish root is in correct place and then you'll want to "continue" | 23:20 |
| ruthenianboy | Telnet is working fine, commands works fine too. But no sfos dir on /data yet so I will continue. You can expect my questions :). How long way i completed by making hybris-boot? | 23:24 |
| mal- | have built the whole sailfish zip and installed it? | 23:25 |
| ruthenianboy | So hybris is easiest part of that, right? Ehm... | 23:26 |
| mal- | so how much of hadk have you done? only hybris-boot? | 23:27 |
| sledges | well, the rest is all mer sdk | 23:27 |
| ruthenianboy | yes, only hybris. I was facing to many problems as i never ported anything or built custom rom | 23:32 |
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| ruthenianboy | Going to bed now, so cu tomorrow guys. Thanks | 23:38 |
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| sledges | n!n | 23:40 |
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