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| Nokius | sledges: let me know if it works for u too :D | 06:30 |
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| stephg | morning | 07:01 |
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| sledges | Nokius: yes, autofocus works amazingly | 07:49 |
| sledges | ..aand morning! | 07:49 |
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| carepack | hi! | 08:27 |
| sledges | hoy! | 08:27 |
| carepack | yangm: because port versions doesn't provide android support | 08:28 |
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| alin | MSameer: hi | 09:19 |
| alin | MSameer: bug reported no 44 | 09:19 |
| alin | MSameer: let me know if you want more info | 09:20 |
| alin | lpotter: hi, shall I report the compass issue? | 09:20 |
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| sledges | alin: all: pls get acquainted: https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-configs/commit/0769f72548fc2152f2c141f550d756ffa9b653ef | 09:52 |
| sledges | latest version of pixel_ratio, and its support status | 09:52 |
| alin | sledges: cool... i see 1.3 | 09:54 |
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| sledges | alin: this was selected by carepack | 09:55 |
| sledges | alin: if you read there you'll see any value can be selected | 09:55 |
| sledges | but icon_pack will then reset to 1.0 - https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=814 | 09:55 |
| merbot | Nemo bug 814 in Hybris-ing "if pixel_ratio is not from a predefined set, icons will default to 1.0 resolution" [Major,New] | 09:55 |
| alin | sledges: yes I have seen | 09:56 |
| alin | sledges: i suggest to select 1.42 or sqrt(2) | 09:56 |
| alin | sledges: one thing is there any reason why the theme_pixel_ratio become unwritable? | 10:00 |
| alin | [11:00:52 nemo@abbaton:~]: dconf write /desktop/sailfish/silica/theme_pixel_ratio 1.5 | 10:01 |
| alin | error: The operation attempted to modify one or more non-writable keys | 10:01 |
| sledges | alin: locked | 10:01 |
| sledges | alin: remove locks/silica-configs.txt | 10:01 |
| alin | sledges: no luck | 10:03 |
| sledges | alin: devel-su dconf update | 10:04 |
| alin | sledges: worked... | 10:05 |
| alin | sledges: thanks | 10:05 |
| alin | sledges: I want to test 1.5 | 10:05 |
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| alin | sledges: do you knwo if u13 will be released tomorro? | 10:06 |
| alin | the versioning indicates that | 10:06 |
| sledges | yea like i'm tellin :P :D | 10:06 |
| alin | sledges: the 1.5 looks much nicer | 10:07 |
| alin | sledges: icons and all the magic | 10:07 |
| sledges | alin: 5 icons in a row | 10:07 |
| alin | sledges: you get 5 icons on line | 10:07 |
| alin | sledges: and the writing is indeed nice | 10:08 |
| alin | sledges: another thing... for the ambiences.. if I regenerate all of them to get rid of the paralax | 10:10 |
| sledges | regenerate? | 10:11 |
| alin | sledges: I get the official background | 10:11 |
| alin | and generate new ambiences based on them | 10:11 |
| sledges | can be done build time? | 10:12 |
| alin | sledges: I do not know I will have to look.. I want to see what is the difference between the original package | 10:12 |
| alin | and the ambience I geneate | 10:12 |
| alin | i just need to see where is saved | 10:13 |
| sledges | yep, can be fun | 10:14 |
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| alin | sledges: anyhow try and let me know | 10:20 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 10:24 |
| klopsi-u3 | hallo zGrr | 10:24 |
| zGrr | hi :) | 10:25 |
| sledges | alin: try what? | 10:32 |
| alin | sledges: the 1.5 ratio | 10:32 |
| sabianadmin | Updated the maguro nightlies for anyone interested. | 10:33 |
| sledges | sabianadmin: any news? | 10:33 |
| sledges | alin: ok, when find time | 10:33 |
| sabianadmin | sledges: No major news, just updated to reflect the latest build (the 25th), will rebuild when theres an update :) | 10:36 |
| sabianadmin | What about you guys? Anything in the pipes? | 10:37 |
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| sledges | alin: i just rebased all dhd2modular branches (dhd, dhc, dhv) against upstream | 11:05 |
| sledges | ready to start peer review process | 11:05 |
| sledges | but before that, could you please migrate once more? | 11:05 |
| sledges | i'll do the same | 11:05 |
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| nh1402 | brobostigon: How is it going, was busy for the past day and a half. Also have to do a C# technical test at some point today or tomorrow. | 11:12 |
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| Nokius|mobile | sledges: =) good | 12:18 |
| Nokius|mobile | vgrade_: are you planing to go for dory (lg g watch) to get sfos on it? | 12:19 |
| sledges | alin: armv7hl arch should be parametrised: https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-device/pull/87 | 12:30 |
| sledges | i've cleaned up the rest of comments, added licence to util.sh too | 12:38 |
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| sledges | alin: nm, fixed it | 13:09 |
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| alin | sledges: sorry stupid meeting away of computer | 14:10 |
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| sledges | alin: np. to your memory, looks like rfkill must be installed. tablet goes without hmm.. so waiting for confirmation from the bt man | 14:11 |
| alin | sledges: yes | 14:12 |
| alin | sledges: it is used by bt | 14:12 |
| sledges | i wonder what exactly uses it | 14:12 |
| alin | sledges: there is a service hciattach or something like that which has a rfkill unblock | 14:12 |
| sledges | ah yes +ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/rfkill unblock bluetooth | 14:12 |
| alin | sledges: I think is needed I do not remember who fixed it | 14:13 |
| alin | sledges: but someone from jolla | 14:13 |
| sledges | jolla1 uses it | 14:13 |
| alin | sledges: cool I am trying to get some apps to showcase the sensors | 14:15 |
| alin | sledges: not only light and orientation... compass and dmt has an old one from nokia time for accelerometer | 14:15 |
| alin | he will ported to qt5 and then probably release it on github | 14:15 |
| sledges | alin: but making a phonecall or going to dark room is enough showcase, no? | 14:16 |
| alin | sledges: who has a dark room these days with all the digital photography | 14:17 |
| alin | sledges: joke aside will be nice to have compass working | 14:17 |
| alin | sledges: and 1.5 I think looks much much better than 2.0 | 14:17 |
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| sledges | alin: fits more text? how do apps look like? paste a screenshot to xda thread and let peeps decide? | 14:22 |
| alin | sledges: I do not know it is a matter of taste so a democratic decision will take nowhere | 14:27 |
| alin | better we document that people can change it to 1.5 | 14:27 |
| alin | and how | 14:28 |
| alin | sledges: also... is there a limit on how many tiles you can have open at a time? | 14:28 |
| sledges | no | 14:29 |
| alin | ok... can you start to open and minimize | 14:29 |
| alin | and tell me how many you can do | 14:29 |
| alin | after 6 they seems to kill eachother | 14:29 |
| sledges | yes | 14:31 |
| sledges | if all don't take up memory | 14:31 |
| sledges | no limit :P | 14:31 |
| alin | sledges: ok strange | 14:36 |
| alin | sledges: ok I see they are there they are just not shown | 14:38 |
| alin | if I keep hold on one | 14:39 |
| alin | i cna see the other ones | 14:39 |
| sledges | yes | 14:39 |
| alin | sledges: now I see that link was for the real merge | 14:42 |
| alin | sledges: that arch thing is cool... we shall add it in .hadk | 14:43 |
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| sledges | alin: agree, with next release, in xda let's post screenshot of how people can pimp it to 1.5 ratio | 14:56 |
| sledges | and how | 14:56 |
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| sabianadmin | sledges: Would it be possible to update the repo and packages whenever a substantial block of work is done? Just so my new node script knows to email me ;) | 15:28 |
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| alin | sledges: yap... do you think I shall install the 1.5 ones by default? | 15:46 |
| alin | sledges: also I notices 1.0 ones are installed too... I am tempted to get rid of them | 15:46 |
| sledges | alin: nope, it will cause too much confusion among app devs (harbour contributors) | 15:47 |
| sledges | they will think they can already port apps to sfos2, but they should wait for tablet sdk and official guides | 15:47 |
| alin | sledges: why? | 15:47 |
| sledges | (as they will interpret this as an official step to scalable sfos) | 15:48 |
| alin | sledges: I see... | 15:48 |
| sledges | and what if 1.5 won't be final for n5 | 15:48 |
| sledges | ? | 15:48 |
| sledges | this is why i asked, how do apps look like? | 15:48 |
| alin | sledges: they will not be probably | 15:48 |
| sledges | sabianadmin: don't think i understand your request:) | 15:48 |
| alin | sledges: in my opinion they look better | 15:48 |
| alin | more space | 15:48 |
| sledges | alin: im writing email to our design team, will see what they say | 15:49 |
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| alin | but that i told you that is in the eyes of beholder... some may like bigger icons | 15:49 |
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| sledges | alin: yea, like for elderly people 3 icons in a row is even better:) | 15:49 |
| alin | sledges: all of us will end up there... | 15:50 |
| sledges | 18:48 < sledges> this is why i asked, how do apps look like? | 15:50 |
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| dia1234 | (dia1234) Hello everyone ! I have just installed SailfishOS on a Nexus 4 phone and it works which is great. However, none of the applications can be lunched. Do you guys know any solution for this problem ? Thank you in advance ! | 15:59 |
| sledges | dia1234: which version are you using? | 16:00 |
| sledges | carepack: ^ | 16:00 |
| sledges | (welcome aboard dia1234 :) | 16:00 |
| dia1234 | sledges i am using 1.1.4.28 | 16:01 |
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| dia1234 | Was the latest release right ? | 16:01 |
| dia1234 | Thanks for welcome :) | 16:02 |
| sledges | dia1234: yes, hmm strange. i'm sure previous release had apps working | 16:02 |
| sledges | try beta4 http://images.devaamo.fi/sfe/mako/ | 16:03 |
| sledges | beta5 is fairly new, and 1.1.4.28 is still being for early adopters only | 16:03 |
| sledges | dia1234: but we tested beta5 and definitely could launch apps | 16:04 |
| dia1234 | Thank you very much | 16:04 |
| alin | sledges: https://plus.google.com/photos/117748791304627868484/albums/6142449336230981617?authkey=CJf6l62xtKbG_wE | 16:04 |
| dia1234 | On nexus 4 phone ? | 16:04 |
| sledges | yes | 16:04 |
| dia1234 | Hmm | 16:04 |
| dia1234 | I'll give it a try | 16:04 |
| sledges | dia1234: release notes mention only jolla store glitches, but even from there you can install most of them, and launch: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60261597&postcount=136 | 16:05 |
| dia1234 | What about .apk? | 16:05 |
| dia1234 | For android store ? | 16:05 |
| sledges | dia1234: android apps are not supported | 16:06 |
| alin | sledges: and by the way the automatic ambience creation seems to match the colours better than the artists | 16:06 |
| sledges | alin: artists? | 16:06 |
| sledges | as in, design artists who pre-define them? | 16:06 |
| alin | sledges: people who decide which colour shall go with which background... | 16:06 |
| sledges | alin: better = subjective :P | 16:07 |
| alin | sledges: of course you can call them different but I still think is an art | 16:07 |
| alin | sledges: of course... | 16:07 |
| alin | sledges: anyhow have a look at the pictures | 16:07 |
| sledges | i have | 16:08 |
| iKozzz | Hey guys o/ | 16:08 |
| alin | the sizes look good to me | 16:08 |
| alin | iKozzz: ahoe | 16:08 |
| iKozzz | how many of people you know are using Viber ? | 16:08 |
| * sledges o/ | 16:08 | |
| alin | iKozzz: none | 16:08 |
| sledges | me | 16:08 |
| sledges | :P | 16:08 |
| alin | iKozzz: you work for them? | 16:09 |
| sledges | alin: ui looks ok, not better, not worse | 16:09 |
| sledges | alin: it's the same about android DPI | 16:09 |
| iKozzz | well not yet)) Today i start a conversation about it | 16:09 |
| sledges | you either want to hack it | 16:09 |
| sledges | or keep touchwiz unraped | 16:09 |
| sledges | iKozzz: sailfish port pls | 16:09 |
| sledges | :D | 16:09 |
| iKozzz | the office is located at Minsk near by my home | 16:09 |
| sledges | (there is one for linux desktop!) | 16:09 |
| alin | sledges: touchwiz? what is that | 16:10 |
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| sledges | alin: samsung's ui layer on top of android | 16:10 |
| sledges | alin: same about htc (no) sense | 16:10 |
| iKozzz | So i really try my best to start work in Viber to port Viber to sailfish | 16:10 |
| sledges | iKozzz: i hope they give you that task to accept you :D | 16:10 |
| sledges | iKozzz: should be "just" to recompile for arm | 16:11 |
| iKozzz | because in another way we cannot port it(( | 16:11 |
| alin | htc non-sense... i missed this one... seen a meralic one does not look bad... | 16:11 |
| sledges | ...and a minor thing: rewrite toolkit :D | 16:11 |
| alin | but they wanted 500 euro on it... | 16:11 |
| alin | sledges: so tolf them to foff | 16:11 |
| * sledges afks | 16:11 | |
| alin | iKozzz: you have the source? | 16:11 |
| dia1234 | (sledges) before I am re'intalling the OS, I am trying to do some research on Sailfish from forensic point of view for one project at University. Do you think that installing it on Nexus 4 will give me good results on where the data is stored ? | 16:11 |
| sledges | alin: pls keep those photos, our designer will look at them | 16:11 |
| iKozzz | no it's closed | 16:12 |
| sledges | dia1234: what data? | 16:12 |
| dia1234 | Such as calls pictures messages | 16:12 |
| alin | sledges: I keep them pass the link to him/her | 16:12 |
| sledges | dia1234: yes | 16:12 |
| dia1234 | Evidence data | 16:12 |
| iKozzz | i asked friend of mine who works at Viber and he told me that it not possible to open their code | 16:12 |
| sledges | lol dia1234 , are you a policeman-to-be? :) | 16:12 |
| dia1234 | Great thanks again | 16:12 |
| sledges | dia1234: it's a linux distro, keeping settings in your $HOME most in sqlite db | 16:13 |
| dia1234 | No no its just a forensic course | 16:13 |
| sledges | some in QtSettings | 16:13 |
| sledges | (possibly also sqlite..) | 16:13 |
| dia1234 | So tgere is an sqlite dv | 16:13 |
| dia1234 | As i knew fir sure android and ios has one | 16:13 |
| sledges | iKozzz: it's ok, harbour accepts closed source sailfish apps too:p | 16:13 |
| * sledges goes afk now for real | 16:14 | |
| sledges | laters!o/ | 16:14 |
| alin | sledges: see you... and take it easy with the bbq | 16:14 |
| iKozzz | sledges: yeah but the just don't give the surces =) | 16:14 |
| dia1234 | Sledges thanks for info ! | 16:14 |
| alin | dia1234: there is a backup mechanism that collects almost all a forensinc wants | 16:14 |
| dia1234 | hiw is it called? | 16:15 |
| sledges | alin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxpHJipB67g | 16:15 |
| dia1234 | @alin can u tell me how is it called? | 16:15 |
| alin | dia1234: backup | 16:15 |
| dia1234 | Well and if i remove some pictures messages | 16:16 |
| dia1234 | And u want to re'store | 16:16 |
| dia1234 | Is it possible ? | 16:16 |
| iKozzz | sledges: btw. How does Jolla store accept apps for submit? | 16:17 |
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| dia1234 | @alin with a backup u can see only data is visible, am I right ? | 16:18 |
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| alin | dia1234: yap... but inside the database I do not know what is saved... | 16:23 |
| alin | dia1234: ok... call history is saved, sms are saved, content too | 16:23 |
| dia1234 | Well it will be nice to research then :d | 16:24 |
| dia1234 | @alin as operating systems differ in the way they encode data and where they store it... Would be nice to find out for Sailfish as well .. I know its linux so should be easy | 16:25 |
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| alin | dia1234: only one way... get a jolla or one of the supported ones | 16:29 |
| alin | and enjoy | 16:29 |
| dia1234 | @alin as I am a student I could not buy a phone | 16:30 |
| dia1234 | The nexus 4 was given by my teachers | 16:30 |
| dia1234 | And just now I saw that its not the same as on a Jolla phone | 16:31 |
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| iKozzz | alin: i played with ngfd configs today and still can't make ringtone vibration work. there are two configs i found - /usr/share/ngfd/plugins.d/ffmemless.ini (describe main part) and /usr/share/ngfd/events.d/ringtone.ini (with specific settings for ringtone). Theoretically it should work as is but don't. Maybe you know something about ringtone.ini config? | 16:34 |
| sledges | iKozzz: https://harbour.jolla.com/ | 16:34 |
| sledges | dia1234: all settings are stored plain text in sailfish os | 16:34 |
| iKozzz | sledges: thanks | 16:34 |
| alin | iKozzz: I do not know about | 16:34 |
| sledges | iKozzz: ffmemless is disabled on all devices except jolla | 16:35 |
| sledges | iKozzz: so those .ini are only for informational purposes for you | 16:36 |
| sledges | 00:55 < sledges> iKozzz: you need to receive the type of event and apply different delay | 16:36 |
| sledges | 00:54 < sledges> iKozzz: https://github.com/mer-hybris/ngfd-plugin-droid-vibrator/blob/master/src/droid-vibrator.c#L101 | 16:36 |
| sledges | taking durations from ffmemless.ini | 16:36 |
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| dia1234 | @sledges there is no ecryption at all used? | 16:37 |
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| sledges | dia1234: no | 16:37 |
| iKozzz | sledges: sorry i missed this part | 16:37 |
| dia1234 | @sledges why would you leave everything plain text ? | 16:38 |
| dia1234 | Even on Jolla phone ? | 16:38 |
| sledges | dia1234: https://together.jolla.com/question/39495/security-risk-with-sqlite-db-in-jolla-passwords-in-plain-text-in-user-space/?answer=82984#post-id-82984 | 16:38 |
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| sledges | unix permissions model | 16:39 |
| sledges | iKozzz: np | 16:39 |
| Stskeeps | also, remember, if you need to log in to a service, you need the password one way or the other. | 16:39 |
| Stskeeps | any obscufication isn't going to matter | 16:39 |
| * sledges goes back afk | 16:42 | |
| dia1234 | @Stskeeps but at least a hash | 16:42 |
| Stskeeps | hash can't be used to authenticate to a service. | 16:42 |
| dia1234 | Yes you are right | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | read this, https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/PlainTextPasswords | 16:43 |
| dia1234 | Oki | 16:43 |
| dia1234 | Well I understand the reasoning of not having passwords encrypted ... But if one gets access to them at least you make his life a bit more difficult in trying to decrypt or find it | 16:47 |
| Stskeeps | it's all hocus pocus on top | 16:48 |
| dia1234 | Anyway I want to thank u all for the answers ! Keep up the good work ! | 16:49 |
| alin | sledges: if you keep like that you will burn the sausages | 17:04 |
| piggz | evening | 17:05 |
| tayrn | I wish it was easier to use XOAUTH2 for your own services | 17:10 |
| tayrn | (self-hosted) | 17:10 |
| alin | which package provide QApplication? | 17:30 |
| alin | i cannot remember now | 17:30 |
| alin | alin: got it | 17:46 |
| alin | lpotter: do you think the compass not working is related with the fact that the gps is missing glue | 17:46 |
| alin | or something... since I see the magnetomer need geovalues | 17:47 |
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| piggz | sledges: mal-: i think ive rebuit and installed everything with qcom_bsp, and the result is the same (rebooted too) | 18:48 |
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| alin | sledges: issue | 19:20 |
| alin | seems like the touch is dead I can swipe to notifictions bu that is all | 19:21 |
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| Nokius_ | o/ | 19:34 |
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| sabianadmin | Someone reported the RIL is broken with 1.1.4.28 on the maguro, just so you guys are aware | 19:40 |
| sabianadmin | don't know about 1.1.2.16 yet | 19:40 |
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| vgrade_ | Nokius: its on my list | 19:46 |
| Nokius | vgrade_: it's cheep atm look like out of stock sale (okay still expensive ~100€ but for smartwatch okay) [sadly we had no luck in Manchester aha | 19:48 |
| sabianadmin | Ok | 19:48 |
| vgrade_ | Nokius: picked one up for 75GBP recently from pixmania | 19:51 |
| Nokius | vgrade_: around the same here | 19:53 |
| Nokius | we need more time :D | 19:53 |
| vgrade_ | I see what you did there | 19:54 |
| Nokius | vgrade_: will hybris work with android gear or is a "pure" Android needed ? | 19:54 |
| vgrade_ | Nokius: we shall see | 19:55 |
| Nokius | :D | 19:56 |
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| Nokius | gn8 will use my IBM typewriter now :P cu | 20:04 |
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| iKozzz | o/ | 21:22 |
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