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| alin_ | sledges: done.. I will tweet fromairport beforethe planegoes | 02:43 | 
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| alin | sledges: done... | 04:59 | 
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| sabianadmin | Okay me thinks i should be build 1.1.4.29? | 06:35 | 
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| tathhu- | tathhu ^^ | 06:38 | 
| tathhu- | sorry about that. :D | 06:38 | 
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| Nokius | MSameer: will have a look thanks for the feedback | 07:01 | 
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| carepack | morning all together! | 07:33 | 
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| zGrr | moin :) | 08:30 | 
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| hurdman_begins | i have got a question about : http://releases.sailfishos.org/sfa-ea/2014-07-18_SailfishOSHardwareAdaptationDevelopmentKit.pdf | 08:48 | 
| hurdman_begins | (hello) | 08:48 | 
| hurdman_begins | the licence is : CC-BY-NC-SA , does it mean that i can't use that doc to create a device i want to sell ? | 08:49 | 
| Stskeeps | well, it becomes commercial once you want to sell a device, until then it's just development | 08:50 | 
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| Stskeeps | so you need to contact jolla about that | 08:51 | 
| Stskeeps | we felt this was an acceptable compromise to allow community to develop ports | 08:51 | 
| hurdman_begins | ok, i understand ( and i feel too that it's a good idea ) | 08:52 | 
| sledges | hurdman_begins: by the way, your linked document is way out of date: https://sailfishos.org/hadk | 08:52 | 
| hurdman_begins | sledges: ah yes, thx ! | 08:53 | 
| Stskeeps | hurdman_begins: you can contact info@jolla.com | 08:53 | 
| sledges | welcome:) | 08:53 | 
| Stskeeps | for commercial discussions | 08:53 | 
| hurdman_begins | ok, i'll send a mail. It's for an openhardware project | 08:53 | 
| Stskeeps | cc carsten.munk at jolla.com too | 08:54 | 
| Stskeeps | (me) | 08:54 | 
| hurdman_begins | Stskeeps: nice ! | 08:54 | 
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| hurdman_begins | Stskeeps: it seems i have seen you at fosdem | 09:15 | 
| Stskeeps | probably :) | 09:15 | 
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| hurdman_begins | Stskeeps: mail send ! | 10:43 | 
| nh1402 | hurdman_begins: This doesn't happen to be about the Fonkraft modular phone that's on indiegogo right now does it? | 10:53 | 
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| hurdman_begins | nh1402: nop | 11:17 | 
| nh1402 | just a coincidence then | 11:18 | 
| hurdman_begins | yes , just a coincidence | 11:18 | 
| hurdman_begins | it seems to use android , no ? | 11:18 | 
| nh1402 | for the moment yes, I think it's just concept photo's at the moment with no working prototype, providing it's not just a con, then they could just release an update and provide an option for sailfish | 11:19 | 
| hurdman_begins | it looks like an ara ^^" | 11:20 | 
| nh1402 | that's just speculation on my part though, haven't looked into it much, just skimmed through a techradar article. | 11:20 | 
| locusf | concept now but ships in september? | 11:22 | 
| nh1402 | speaking of which they said they would release it this year, was it a limited release somewhere | 11:22 | 
| hurdman_begins | the timeline is very optimist ^^" | 11:22 | 
| hurdman_begins | one year from idea to 3D design and campaign launch, and less than one year from money to shipping , well they works very quickly ^^" | 11:23 | 
| locusf | really curious to see sailfish on it | 11:25 | 
| nh1402 | CPU, GPU, and RAM is in one chip usually isn't it? | 11:25 | 
| locusf | I just ordered the resolution model so lets see | 11:25 | 
| hurdman_begins | if they use an only 8 pins bus to connect cpu / gpu / storage / ram , .... i'm very intresting of how they have done that | 11:27 | 
| hurdman_begins | one asic dedicated by port ? | 11:27 | 
| nh1402 | I'm very sceptical about this | 11:29 | 
| nh1402 | If I'm not mistaken the ram is found directly underneath the Snapdragon 800 on the Nexus 5, wouldn't there be a metric tonne of latency separating out the CPU, GPU and RAM, with 8 pins. | 11:32 | 
| hurdman_begins | i think it's just impossible to do that ;) | 11:33 | 
| Stskeeps | isn't like eMMC, RAM and CPU usually in a PoP nowadays | 11:33 | 
| Stskeeps | ? | 11:33 | 
| hurdman_begins | you have to keep cpu and ram and gpu into the same board not like that : http://www.androidguys.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Fonkraft-Pilot-pitch.jpg | 11:34 | 
| hurdman_begins | you can do all you wan't for over devices via an quick serial bus, but cpu/ram | 11:36 | 
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| rbn | hi! | 11:37 | 
| Stskeeps | m00 | 11:37 | 
| hurdman_begins | plop | 11:37 | 
| rbn | somehow i've managed to have a caldav calendar in the calendar app, but not showing anymore in settings->accounts | 11:38 | 
| rbn | any idea how to remove that | 11:38 | 
| rbn | i ask here because i'm using it on a nexus 4 ;) | 11:38 | 
| nh1402 | Google's working prototype have a tegra 3 or 4 module, I think. | 11:38 | 
| Stskeeps | nh1402: or marvell, wasn't it | 11:38 | 
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| nh1402 | I think, and toshiba have a chip inside the skeleton. | 11:39 | 
| nh1402 | Stskeeps: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-adds-Nvidia-Tegra-K1-and-Marvell-processors-to-Project-Ara_id63992 | 11:42 | 
| Stskeeps | nod | 11:42 | 
| hurdman_begins | into ara , it's an asic per port to manage the unipro bus , isn't it ? | 11:53 | 
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| carepack | rbn: part -> upgrade version history. Maybe you're affected. https://together.jolla.com/question/89804/release-notes-114-aijanpaivanjarvi-early-access/ | 12:00 | 
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| carepack | in a weired way | 12:10 | 
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| locusf | dr_gogeta86: ping | 15:23 | 
| dr_gogeta86 | hi | 15:23 | 
| dr_gogeta86 | locusf, | 15:24 | 
| locusf | dr_gogeta86: I've managed to patch libhybris so that it correctly links the egl libraries of 5.0.2 | 15:24 | 
| sledges | \o/ | 15:28 | 
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| locusf | it was actually from ubuntu guys | 15:29 | 
| locusf | they've done some stuff for it | 15:29 | 
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| dr_gogeta86 | May i see them | 15:44 | 
| dr_gogeta86 | i've rollbacked to 4.4 | 15:44 | 
| dr_gogeta86 | but i know numbering on dory is a mock | 15:44 | 
| locusf | okay | 15:48 | 
| locusf | actually no | 15:48 | 
| locusf | my mersdk VM was in my server, which power supply died today | 15:48 | 
| locusf | so I can't get it out | 15:49 | 
| locusf | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/libhybris/vivid/revision/77 | 15:51 | 
| locusf | heres the ubuntu patch | 15:51 | 
| locusf | just leave out the debian changes | 15:52 | 
| locusf | and use latest master of libhybris | 15:52 | 
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| alin | sledges: ping | 15:56 | 
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| sledges | alin: po | 16:00 | 
| sledges | ng | 16:00 | 
| sledges | good flight? | 16:04 | 
| sledges | i worked around manifest problem, build_packages now runs dandy | 16:04 | 
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| sledges | also qtsensors is not needed to be built | 16:05 | 
| sledges | and lastly, this morning's libhybris fixes gst-droid | 16:05 | 
| sledges | but same performance as old lh, so i didn't push a hotfix | 16:06 | 
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| stephg | \o/ building for m7 (as usual, pebkac) | 16:06 | 
| sledges | \o/ stephg | 16:06 | 
| sledges | funnily enough, PEBKAC is perfectly a readable nonsensical cyrillic word | 16:07 | 
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| stephg | revkas? | 16:10 | 
| stephg | is I guess how I'd transliterate it | 16:10 | 
| stephg | so next step then is to see what actually works on this m7 and then I can get onto the next steps | 16:10 | 
| alin | sledges: yes... more exciting than I expected... | 16:19 | 
| sledges | alin: sometimes forgets wlan ap | 16:19 | 
| sledges | not even during first boot | 16:19 | 
| alin | sledges: not for me... | 16:19 | 
| alin | sledges: works I set it and restart few times no problem | 16:20 | 
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| sledges | alin: you're on latest? | 16:20 | 
| alin | sledges: yes the one you pushed last night | 16:20 | 
| sledges | ok | 16:20 | 
| sledges | i'll just reboot around for tests and kicks | 16:20 | 
| alin | sledges: yes qtsensors does not need build... just forgot to remove it | 16:20 | 
| alin | sledges: what did you do to manifest? | 16:25 | 
| sledges | pre-generated it in habuild_sdk | 16:25 | 
| alin | sledges: and which sfa-mer did you use from dmt or from me? | 16:25 | 
| sledges | as it curses the world inside qemu | 16:25 | 
| sledges | from you | 16:25 | 
| alin | sledges: ok... yes | 16:25 | 
| alin | sledges: and you say the libhybris is fixed? | 16:25 | 
| sledges | yes, already baked image afresh | 16:26 | 
| alin | sledges: cool | 16:26 | 
| sledges | we'll need to change approach of the new modular sfa-mer: if it finds out device hasn't been migrated yet, it aborts screaming 'do migration first, push out repos, and sort out local manifest, then run me again' | 16:27 | 
| sledges | because there's too much manual inspection to attend | 16:27 | 
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| alin | sledges: but I thought we already have a local manifest mechanism | 16:34 | 
| sledges | alin: rephrase: 'add those repos to your local_manifest' | 16:37 | 
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| sledges | alin: xulrunner finished building | 16:40 | 
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| alin | sledges: cool I will install it | 16:40 | 
| sledges | alin: what about your holiday? :)) | 16:41 | 
| alin | sledges: if you look in sfa-mer... there is a stage where copies a manifest.xml into local | 16:41 | 
| alin | then there is some more magic we do | 16:41 | 
| alin | sledges: up to now fine... rains... | 16:41 | 
| sledges | hehe, sun and windy here though | 16:41 | 
| sledges | https://build.merproject.org/package/show/nemo:devel:hw:common/xulrunner-qt5 | 16:41 | 
| sledges | we'll use this repo eventually (gst-droid will need to go per-device) | 16:42 | 
| sledges | don't dup from it, it's all the same except gecko | 16:42 | 
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| sledges | alin: building nss.... | 16:48 | 
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| Nokius|mobile | sledges: how u fixed the cloudflare ussue on xulrunner? | 17:18 | 
| sledges | Nokius|mobile: lbt fixed | 17:19 | 
| Nokius|mobile | ah =) will try it on find5 later | 17:19 | 
| sledges | Nokius|mobile: problems with nss now | 17:19 | 
| sledges | not cfn though | 17:20 | 
| Nokius|mobile | =( | 17:20 | 
| Nokius|mobile | ach | 17:20 | 
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| nh1402 | looks like Microsoft are also jumping on the android app bandwagon, with windows 10 coming with an android subsystem | 17:31 | 
| Stskeeps | citation? | 17:33 | 
| sledges | probably also from cm+m$ bits | 17:33 | 
| nh1402 | http://channel9.msdn.com/?wt.mc_id=build_hp | 17:36 | 
| Stskeeps | yeah.. saw it now | 17:36 | 
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| Nokius|mobile | there was rumor the last days | 17:42 | 
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| jcbjoe | sledges: do you know if anyone is working on slafish os 2.0 atm for the nexus 4 ? | 18:40 | 
| sledges | hi jcbjoe , all devices are worked on sailfish os 1.0 at the moment . carepack is looking at nexus 4 | 18:41 | 
| sledges | last update introduced something which is a first step towards sfos2.0 | 18:41 | 
| sledges | so, step by step, all devices | 18:41 | 
| jcbjoe | cool | 18:42 | 
| sledges | wanna help out? | 18:42 | 
| sledges | more hands always welcomed | 18:43 | 
| jcbjoe | don't know how to program and i get my nexsu 4 in a couple of days .. so i will just be a tester | 18:43 | 
| sledges | every little helps;) | 18:43 | 
| jcbjoe | :D | 18:43 | 
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| alin_ | sledges: the store.... | 19:10 | 
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| alin_ | sledges: xul installed no luck | 19:16 | 
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| sledges | alin_: ofc store wouldn't work as dhdrepo is x :( | 19:19 | 
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| * sledges pushes repos out and builds from obs | 19:20 | |
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| alin_ | sledges: aaa yes because I forgot to push the changes | 19:23 | 
| alin_ | sledges: I put it on extra as workaround | 19:24 | 
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| iKozzz | Hi! | 19:49 | 
| sledges | hi! | 19:49 | 
| iKozzz | today i tried to mount android storage to sailfish and broke the system | 19:51 | 
| iKozzz | i mounted "/android" but all is got broken when i make "chmod a+rwx" | 19:52 | 
| iKozzz | as result - no ssh and device will not boot again | 19:53 | 
| iKozzz | strange behaviour actually | 19:53 | 
| sledges | iKozzz: you broke it very well, well done:) | 19:53 | 
| sledges | iKozzz: if you mounted whole /data as /android, you reset permissions of the whole partition | 19:54 | 
| iKozzz | let me tell you more | 19:54 | 
| sledges | you should've mount --bind /data/media/0 | 19:54 | 
| sledges | factory reset (wipe /data) is in order | 19:55 | 
| sledges | your android should stay intact, but make backup first of your content whatever you have under there | 19:56 | 
| iKozzz | i made it long time ago ;) | 19:57 | 
| sledges | it? | 19:57 | 
| sledges | i mean, your media/music/photos | 19:58 | 
| sledges | of android side | 19:58 | 
| sledges | good | 19:58 | 
| sledges | ;) | 19:58 | 
| iKozzz | how --bind cmd looks like? mount --bind /dev/mmcblk0p28/ /data/media/0 ?? | 19:58 | 
| sledges | it's post mount | 20:00 | 
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| iKozzz | got it | 20:01 | 
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| sledges | iKozzz: got multirom? | 20:06 | 
| iKozzz | yes | 20:06 | 
| sledges | iKozzz: during early boots some magic ensues and data is mounted twice | 20:07 | 
| sledges | one on / | 20:07 | 
| sledges | other on /data (showing still not your real /data) | 20:07 | 
| sledges | if you could pull of mounting 3rd time, but showing only /data/media/0, that would be awesome | 20:08 | 
| sledges | i think they all are mount --binds pre-switch_root | 20:08 | 
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| sledges | in this way tracker would not only sdcard content | 20:08 | 
| sledges | and you could set its permissions also at will | 20:08 | 
| sledges | s/not/scan/ | 20:09 | 
| iKozzz | sledges: I succesfuly mounted and linked Music to Music, Pictures to pictures and was able to access it from media player and gallery but unil reboot ))) | 20:09 | 
| iKozzz | now i'll try it with your suggestions | 20:10 | 
| sledges | iKozzz: https://github.com/mer-hybris/hybris-boot/blob/hybris-10.1/init-script#L150 | 20:10 | 
| sledges | you could add something like | 20:10 | 
| sledges | mount --bind /data/media/0 /target/sdcard | 20:10 | 
| sledges | (with creating /sdcard first ofc) | 20:11 | 
| sledges | but this goes into initrd | 20:11 | 
| sledges | and needs loads of customisations for other devices | 20:11 | 
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| sledges | yet the most disguised/safe | 20:11 | 
| yangm | they updated the nexus 5 port | 20:17 | 
| yangm | good | 20:17 | 
| sledges | :) | 20:18 | 
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| Nokius | MSameer: can u check it the commit fix is good :) | 20:27 | 
| BluesLee | sledges, alin: how to fix missing libsailfishapp.so.1 on alpha10? | 20:29 | 
| Nokius | MSameer: hope I understand you correct :) | 20:29 | 
| sledges | BluesLee: wasn't that an old issue with a known fix? | 20:30 | 
| sledges | BluesLee: if you are side-loading a harbour app via rpm, use zypper in RPM instead | 20:33 | 
| BluesLee | sledges: i clicked on the downloaded rpm and tried pkcon install-local afterwards | 20:35 | 
| Nokius | BluesLee: it shall ask you to downloasd and install the missing package | 20:40 | 
| sledges | BluesLee: jolla store is broken on alpha10 | 20:40 | 
| sledges | hotfix pending | 20:40 | 
| sledges | (and associated pkcon stuffs) | 20:40 | 
| sledges | you can workaround your effort now | 20:41 | 
| sledges | do what we tell :D | 20:41 | 
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| * Nokius :o my carbon fiber ambiance looks so sweet on the find5 | 20:42 | |
| sledges | good! share? | 20:43 | 
| Nokius | only the bg is not fitting sooth (know issue) | 20:43 | 
| Nokius | sure | 20:43 | 
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| BluesLee | sledges: okay, i will wait before completely migrating to alpha10 | 20:43 | 
| Nokius | sledges: https://openrepos.net/content/nokius/carbon-fibre-ambience | 20:44 | 
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| Nokius | fullhd is not bad with sfos :D | 20:53 | 
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| Nokius | tomorrow is Friday for me :D night guys | 20:56 | 
| klopsi-u3 | night Nokius | 20:57 | 
| Nokius | night klopsi-u3 | 20:57 | 
| sledges | ahoy | 20:59 | 
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| Nokius | o/ | 21:01 | 
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