Wednesday, 2015-04-29

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alin_sledges: done.. I will tweet fromairport beforethe planegoes02:43
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alinsledges: done...04:59
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sabianadminOkay me thinks i should be build 1.1.4.29?06:35
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tathhu-tathhu ^^06:38
tathhu-sorry about that. :D06:38
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NokiusMSameer: will have a look  thanks for the feedback07:01
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carepackmorning all together!07:33
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zGrrmoin :)08:30
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hurdman_beginsi have got a question about : http://releases.sailfishos.org/sfa-ea/2014-07-18_SailfishOSHardwareAdaptationDevelopmentKit.pdf08:48
hurdman_begins(hello)08:48
hurdman_beginsthe licence is : CC-BY-NC-SA , does it mean that i can't use that doc to create a device i want to sell ?08:49
Stskeepswell, it becomes commercial once you want to sell a device, until then it's just development08:50
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Stskeepsso you need to contact jolla about that08:51
Stskeepswe felt this was an acceptable compromise to allow community to develop ports08:51
hurdman_beginsok, i understand ( and i feel too that it's a good idea )08:52
sledgeshurdman_begins: by the way, your linked document is way out of date: https://sailfishos.org/hadk08:52
hurdman_beginssledges: ah yes, thx !08:53
Stskeepshurdman_begins: you can contact info@jolla.com08:53
sledgeswelcome:)08:53
Stskeepsfor commercial discussions08:53
hurdman_beginsok, i'll send a mail. It's for an openhardware project08:53
Stskeepscc carsten.munk at jolla.com too08:54
Stskeeps(me)08:54
hurdman_beginsStskeeps: nice !08:54
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hurdman_beginsStskeeps: it seems i have seen you at fosdem09:15
Stskeepsprobably :)09:15
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hurdman_beginsStskeeps: mail send !10:43
nh1402hurdman_begins: This doesn't happen to be about the Fonkraft modular phone that's on indiegogo right now does it?10:53
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hurdman_beginsnh1402: nop11:17
nh1402just a coincidence then11:18
hurdman_beginsyes , just a coincidence11:18
hurdman_beginsit seems to use android , no ?11:18
nh1402for the moment yes, I think it's just concept photo's at the moment with no working prototype, providing it's not just a con, then they could just release an update and provide an option for sailfish11:19
hurdman_beginsit looks like an ara ^^"11:20
nh1402that's just speculation on my part though, haven't looked into it much, just skimmed through a techradar article.11:20
locusfconcept now but ships in september?11:22
nh1402speaking of which they said they would release it this year, was it a limited release somewhere11:22
hurdman_beginsthe timeline is very optimist ^^"11:22
hurdman_beginsone year from idea to 3D design and campaign launch, and less than one year from money to shipping , well they works very quickly ^^"11:23
locusfreally curious to see sailfish on it11:25
nh1402CPU, GPU, and RAM is in one chip usually isn't it?11:25
locusfI just ordered the resolution model so lets see11:25
hurdman_beginsif they use an only 8 pins bus to connect cpu / gpu / storage / ram , ....  i'm very intresting of how they have done that11:27
hurdman_beginsone asic dedicated by port ?11:27
nh1402I'm very sceptical about this11:29
nh1402If I'm not mistaken the ram is found directly underneath the Snapdragon 800 on the Nexus 5, wouldn't there be a metric tonne of latency separating out the CPU, GPU and RAM, with 8 pins.11:32
hurdman_beginsi think it's just impossible to do that ;)11:33
Stskeepsisn't like eMMC, RAM and CPU usually in a PoP nowadays11:33
Stskeeps?11:33
hurdman_beginsyou have to keep cpu and ram and gpu into the same board not like that : http://www.androidguys.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Fonkraft-Pilot-pitch.jpg11:34
hurdman_beginsyou can do all you wan't for over devices via an quick serial bus, but cpu/ram11:36
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rbnhi!11:37
Stskeepsm0011:37
hurdman_beginsplop11:37
rbnsomehow i've managed to have a caldav calendar in the calendar app, but not showing anymore in settings->accounts11:38
rbnany idea how to remove that11:38
rbni ask here because i'm using it on a nexus 4 ;)11:38
nh1402Google's working prototype  have a tegra 3 or 4 module, I think.11:38
Stskeepsnh1402: or marvell, wasn't it11:38
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nh1402I think, and toshiba have a chip inside the skeleton.11:39
nh1402Stskeeps: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-adds-Nvidia-Tegra-K1-and-Marvell-processors-to-Project-Ara_id6399211:42
Stskeepsnod11:42
hurdman_beginsinto ara , it's an asic per port to manage the unipro bus , isn't it ?11:53
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carepackrbn: part -> upgrade version history. Maybe you're affected. https://together.jolla.com/question/89804/release-notes-114-aijanpaivanjarvi-early-access/12:00
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carepackin a weired way12:10
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locusfdr_gogeta86: ping15:23
dr_gogeta86hi15:23
dr_gogeta86locusf,15:24
locusfdr_gogeta86: I've managed to patch libhybris so that it correctly links the egl libraries of 5.0.215:24
sledges\o/15:28
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locusfit was actually from ubuntu guys15:29
locusfthey've done some stuff for it15:29
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dr_gogeta86May i see them15:44
dr_gogeta86i've rollbacked to 4.415:44
dr_gogeta86but i know numbering on dory is a mock15:44
locusfokay15:48
locusfactually no15:48
locusfmy mersdk VM was in my server, which power supply died today15:48
locusfso I can't get it out15:49
locusfhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/libhybris/vivid/revision/7715:51
locusfheres the ubuntu patch15:51
locusfjust leave out the debian changes15:52
locusfand use latest master of libhybris15:52
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alinsledges: ping15:56
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sledgesalin: po16:00
sledgesng16:00
sledgesgood flight?16:04
sledgesi worked around manifest problem, build_packages now runs dandy16:04
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sledgesalso qtsensors is not needed to be built16:05
sledgesand lastly, this morning's libhybris fixes gst-droid16:05
sledgesbut same performance as old lh, so i didn't push a hotfix16:06
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stephg\o/ building for m7 (as usual, pebkac)16:06
sledges\o/ stephg16:06
sledgesfunnily enough, PEBKAC is perfectly a readable nonsensical cyrillic word16:07
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stephgrevkas?16:10
stephgis I guess how I'd transliterate it16:10
stephgso next step then is to see what actually works on this m7 and then I can get onto the next steps16:10
alinsledges: yes... more exciting than I expected...16:19
sledgesalin: sometimes forgets wlan ap16:19
sledgesnot even during first boot16:19
alinsledges: not for me...16:19
alinsledges: works I set it and restart few times no problem16:20
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sledgesalin: you're on latest?16:20
alinsledges: yes the one you pushed last night16:20
sledgesok16:20
sledgesi'll just reboot around for tests and kicks16:20
alinsledges: yes qtsensors does not need build... just forgot to remove it16:20
alinsledges: what did you do to manifest?16:25
sledgespre-generated it in habuild_sdk16:25
alinsledges: and which sfa-mer did you use from dmt or from me?16:25
sledgesas it curses the world inside qemu16:25
sledgesfrom you16:25
alinsledges: ok... yes16:25
alinsledges: and you say the libhybris is fixed?16:25
sledgesyes, already baked image afresh16:26
alinsledges: cool16:26
sledgeswe'll need to change approach of the new modular sfa-mer: if it finds out device hasn't been migrated yet, it aborts screaming 'do migration first, push out repos, and sort out local manifest, then run me again'16:27
sledgesbecause there's too much manual inspection to attend16:27
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alinsledges: but I thought we already have a local manifest mechanism16:34
sledgesalin: rephrase: 'add those repos to your local_manifest'16:37
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sledgesalin: xulrunner finished building16:40
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alinsledges: cool I will install it16:40
sledgesalin: what about your holiday? :))16:41
alinsledges: if you look in sfa-mer... there is a stage where copies a manifest.xml into local16:41
alinthen there is some more magic we do16:41
alinsledges: up to now fine... rains...16:41
sledgeshehe, sun and windy here though16:41
sledgeshttps://build.merproject.org/package/show/nemo:devel:hw:common/xulrunner-qt516:41
sledgeswe'll use this repo eventually (gst-droid will need to go per-device)16:42
sledgesdon't dup from it, it's all the same except gecko16:42
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sledgesalin: building nss....16:48
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Nokius|mobilesledges: how u fixed the cloudflare ussue on xulrunner?17:18
sledgesNokius|mobile: lbt fixed17:19
Nokius|mobileah =) will try it on find5 later17:19
sledgesNokius|mobile: problems with nss now17:19
sledgesnot cfn though17:20
Nokius|mobile=(17:20
Nokius|mobileach17:20
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nh1402looks like Microsoft are also jumping on the android app bandwagon, with windows 10 coming with an android subsystem17:31
Stskeepscitation?17:33
sledgesprobably also from cm+m$ bits17:33
nh1402http://channel9.msdn.com/?wt.mc_id=build_hp17:36
Stskeepsyeah.. saw it now17:36
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Nokius|mobilethere was rumor the last days17:42
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jcbjoesledges: do you know if anyone is working on slafish os 2.0 atm for the nexus 4 ?18:40
sledgeshi jcbjoe , all devices are worked on sailfish os 1.0 at the moment . carepack is looking at nexus 418:41
sledgeslast update introduced something which is a first step towards sfos2.018:41
sledgesso, step by step, all devices18:41
jcbjoecool18:42
sledgeswanna help out?18:42
sledgesmore hands always welcomed18:43
jcbjoedon't know how to program and i get my nexsu 4 in a couple of days .. so i will just be a tester18:43
sledgesevery little helps;)18:43
jcbjoe:D18:43
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alin_sledges: the store....19:10
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alin_sledges: xul installed no luck19:16
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sledgesalin_: ofc store wouldn't work as dhdrepo is x :(19:19
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* sledges pushes repos out and builds from obs19:20
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alin_sledges: aaa yes because I forgot to push the changes19:23
alin_sledges: I put it on extra as workaround19:24
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iKozzzHi!19:49
sledgeshi!19:49
iKozzztoday i tried to mount android storage to sailfish and broke the system19:51
iKozzzi mounted "/android" but all is got broken when i make "chmod a+rwx"19:52
iKozzzas result - no ssh and device will not boot again19:53
iKozzzstrange behaviour actually19:53
sledgesiKozzz: you broke it very well, well done:)19:53
sledgesiKozzz: if you mounted whole /data as /android, you reset permissions of the whole partition19:54
iKozzzlet me tell you more19:54
sledgesyou should've mount --bind /data/media/019:54
sledgesfactory reset (wipe /data) is in order19:55
sledgesyour android should stay intact, but make backup first of your content whatever you have under there19:56
iKozzzi made it long time ago ;)19:57
sledgesit?19:57
sledgesi mean, your media/music/photos19:58
sledgesof android side19:58
sledgesgood19:58
sledges;)19:58
iKozzzhow --bind cmd looks like?   mount --bind /dev/mmcblk0p28/ /data/media/0 ??19:58
sledgesit's post mount20:00
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iKozzzgot it20:01
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sledgesiKozzz: got multirom?20:06
iKozzzyes20:06
sledgesiKozzz: during early boots some magic ensues and data is mounted twice20:07
sledgesone on /20:07
sledgesother on /data (showing still not your real /data)20:07
sledgesif you could pull of mounting 3rd time, but showing only /data/media/0, that would be awesome20:08
sledgesi think they all are mount --binds pre-switch_root20:08
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sledgesin this way tracker would not only sdcard content20:08
sledgesand you could set its permissions also at will20:08
sledgess/not/scan/20:09
iKozzzsledges: I succesfuly mounted and linked Music to Music, Pictures to pictures and was able to access it from media player and gallery but unil reboot )))20:09
iKozzznow i'll try it with your suggestions20:10
sledgesiKozzz: https://github.com/mer-hybris/hybris-boot/blob/hybris-10.1/init-script#L15020:10
sledgesyou could add something like20:10
sledgesmount --bind /data/media/0 /target/sdcard20:10
sledges(with creating /sdcard first ofc)20:11
sledgesbut this goes into initrd20:11
sledgesand needs loads of customisations for other devices20:11
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sledgesyet the most disguised/safe20:11
yangmthey updated the nexus 5 port20:17
yangmgood20:17
sledges:)20:18
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NokiusMSameer: can u check it the commit fix is good :)20:27
BluesLeesledges, alin: how to fix missing libsailfishapp.so.1 on alpha10?20:29
NokiusMSameer: hope I understand you correct :)20:29
sledgesBluesLee: wasn't that an old issue with a known fix?20:30
sledgesBluesLee: if you are side-loading a harbour app via rpm, use zypper in RPM instead20:33
BluesLeesledges: i clicked on the downloaded rpm and tried pkcon install-local afterwards20:35
NokiusBluesLee: it shall ask you to downloasd and install the missing package20:40
sledgesBluesLee: jolla store is broken on alpha1020:40
sledgeshotfix pending20:40
sledges(and associated pkcon stuffs)20:40
sledgesyou can workaround your effort now20:41
sledgesdo what we tell :D20:41
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* Nokius :o my carbon fiber ambiance looks so sweet on the find5 20:42
sledgesgood! share?20:43
Nokiusonly the bg is not fitting sooth (know issue)20:43
Nokiussure20:43
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BluesLeesledges: okay, i will wait before completely migrating to alpha1020:43
Nokiussledges: https://openrepos.net/content/nokius/carbon-fibre-ambience20:44
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Nokiusfullhd is not bad with sfos :D20:53
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Nokiustomorrow is Friday for me :D night guys20:56
klopsi-u3night Nokius20:57
Nokiusnight klopsi-u320:57
sledgesahoy20:59
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Nokiuso/21:01
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