Thursday, 2015-04-30

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AdiGandhiHI Dev's, I had a quick question regarding Dalvik RunTime on Nexus % (Hammerhead)02:44
AdiGandhiDo you know the status of the open source frame-work for Dalvik, where can I go and chack02:44
AdiGandhiwhere can I help?02:44
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jcbjoeAdiGandhi: does everything work on the n5 with sailfish ?03:22
* jcbjoe is not a dev just wondering how the n5 works well with salifish03:22
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AdityaNo, I just got started with the developement04:02
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alinsledges: ping07:10
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alinsledges: alpha11 has .2807:38
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sledgesgood morn!!08:07
sledgesalin: m?
alinsledges: I do not know I installed it and ssu lr08:13
alinshowed .28 repos08:13
sledges.29 here08:13
alinsledges: ok maybe I messed up08:13
sledgesis not early morning in Bucuresci :)08:17
alinsledges: i tried in early morning08:18
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alinMSameer: question... is there any reason why the flash does not work?08:20
sledgesalin: add /etc/gst-droid/gstdroidcamsrc.conf from
sledgesand flash will work08:24
alinsledges: ok then I did something wrong... I will look into it again08:24
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alinsledges: now that things more or less work08:37
alinsledges: maybe we shall think on a set of applications that shall work08:38
alinthings like this08:38
sledgesalin: or start working on OTA instead08:38
sledgesof concentrating on workarounds08:38
alinOTA? what is that?08:38
sledgesover-the-air update08:38
alinsledges: oooo mobile world bs... I do my updates over a cable08:39
sledgesminimum %)08:39
alinsledges: but I do not understand the issue with that?08:39
alinsledges: rolling linux existed for years now even the troubleweed works08:39
sledgeskernel wouldn't flash08:40
sledgesnow it should work because preinit's been sorted08:40
sledgesneeds test, and done08:40
alinsledges: that involves a lot of testing...08:42
alinsledges: you never know what apps repos and other merdre the user did08:42
sledgesrepo isolation08:42
alinsledges: he he... i am sure users will find a way to break it08:43
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alinsledges: that is fine with few repos... but with the approach from open repos and other home brewed crap08:44
alincan be tricky08:44
zGrrmoin :)08:44
sledges11:42 < sledges> repo isolation08:44
alinI think some fallacy happened when you allowed both harbour and obs08:45
alinsledges: yes that is fine... and if you break app k from openrepos y then users will complain like hell08:45
alindespite the only thing you did not account for was their idiocy...08:45
sledgesalin: 5th page warning box:
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alinsledges: but you know actually having apps to work I do not think is irrelevant08:50
alinsledges: once things work like is now people will complain about missing apps08:50
sledgesif it breaks, users backup and reflash, already used to08:50
alinsledges: they removed the 1.5 icons... that is not nice08:53
alinyes cause I suspect may be more than one...08:54
alini do not see in zypper the 1.5 ambient08:54
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merbotNemo bug 814 in Hybris-ing "if pixel_ratio is not from a predefined set, icons will default to 1.0 resolution" [Major,New]08:54
alinsledges: yes I read... one thing is default... which we have 2.008:56
alinother thing is 1.5 available08:56
alinthe xul runner installed it but no luck09:00
sledgesi tried too09:02
sledgessame no luck, sound on black screen though09:02
sledgeson youtube09:02
sledgesand h264 videos spinner indefinitely09:02
sledgesalin: 1.5 packages are available09:02
alinsledges: strange I cannot see them09:02
sledgeszypper se 1.509:03
sledgesdid you refresh your repos?09:03
alinsledges: nope I did not refresh09:03
alinsledges: maybe this is the issue09:03
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sledgesalin: could you please tweet an explanatory tweet that a11 is only a hotfix for jolla store and libhybris upgrade?09:04
alinsledges: done sorry09:08
sledgesalin: thank you \o/09:13
alinsledges: one issue i noticed09:14
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alinafter a while the touch becomes untouchable09:14
alini can get the notification screen up but I cannot touch anythingg09:15
sledgesalin: pls find sequence to reproduce09:15
sledgessounds like device lock relics?09:15
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alinsledges: I cannot after few hours simply does not work happened 3-4 rimes09:34
alinnever foudn a pattern09:34
alinbut keep in mind if someone else complains09:35
sledgesdid it happen after excessive usage?09:35
sledgesor was the phone just resting?09:35
vgrade_I've seen this twice in two weeks09:38
sledgesthanks vgrade_, ok, so not a super recent image09:39
vgrade_have to double click power to enable lock screen to be bypassed to allow phone reboot09:39
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alinsledges: resting09:46
vgrade_sledges: no , its the image before the split09:46
alinvgrade_: sledges seens in on the split image too09:47
alinI have no lock09:47
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sledgeshello nh140209:52
nh1402hello sledges09:53
sledgesnh1402: alpha11 is out09:55
sledgeslatest libhybris update and jolla store hotfix09:55
sledgestell the world the good news:)09:55
nh1402I'll make a post right now.09:55
sledgesalin: vgrade_: file a bug?09:57
sledges(i just closed a myriad of nexus5 bugs \o/ well done everyone!)09:57
sledges(and no, no pun intended ;))09:57
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nh1402just noticed in log someone was asking about open source dalvik runtime, whose willing to help is he still online?10:03
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alinsledges: will 2.0 have multiuser>10:40
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sledgesalin: i see no motivation for that10:41
sledgesand don't know the answer/can't tell:))10:41
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alinsledges: now on the fllash think... that file may not be enough... it needs to be implemented in camera10:44
sledgesalin: worked for Nokius_10:45
alinsledges: ok now the 66k question.... why we do not ship that file?10:47
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alinsledges: wo\rks for me too... cool10:49
alinlet us test other things10:49
sledgesalin: we forgot10:49
alinsledges: good work nowadays...10:50
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Nokius|mobilesledges: i have no working flash ='(10:51
Nokius|mobileis on my list10:52
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alinNokius|mobile: ok then I have10:55
sledgesalin: new upstream:
alinsledges: I see no data is installed but I will not touch it10:55
stephghm so I've found my /data but I apparently don't have a boot10:56
sledgesalin: data?10:56
stephgis /fstab.qcom per device or is it the same everywhere10:56
sledgesstephg: depends where it resides10:56
sledgescan be multiples10:56
alinsledges: the folder data10:56
alinsledges: for gst-droid10:57
stephgsledges: ah oh actually I do have a udev path there let me see where that goes10:57
alinstephg: which has the conf10:57
alinsledges: ^10:57
sledgesalin: it should go into sparse/10:57
sledgesas it will be per-device10:57
stephgcool it appears I have a pair of blockdevices: /boot: mmcblk0p33 and /data mmcblk0p3710:57
sledgesfor all those fancy effects you see10:57
sledges(and fine tunings)10:57
alinsledges: the ones from droidmedia?10:58
Nokius|mobilewill ping u later than enjoy for vocations =)10:58
sledgesalin: what?10:58
sledgesNokius|mobile: have a good one!10:58
alinsledges: installed the camera one by hand and works10:58
sledgesalin: put under
alinsledges: ok I see10:59
alinsledges: now11:03
alinsledges: back to your oTA11:04
alinin principle the OTA shall not be complicated if all rpms are ok11:04
alinssu up11:04
alinalready does some nice jobs11:05
alinwe shall temporarly disable all user repos11:05
sledgesalin: version --dup disables (but i might be mistaken)11:06
sledgesstore-client certainly does isolation11:06
sledgesbut we can't get OTA through store11:06
sledgesanyhow, needs testing11:06
alinsledges: yap11:07
alinsledges: so tell me the issues... zypper dup is a mess...11:07
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alinsledges: one needs to be 100%11:07
alinsledges: that the enabled repos are kosher...11:07
alinsledges: what I think can be an issue is that zypper dup may want to remove things if  the deps indicate that11:08
sledgesalin: can't tell you the issues; testing can tell you them11:08
alinsledges: i did zypper dup on normal linux for 10y now11:08
alinsledges: and can be tricky once other repos that the normal ones were added11:09
sledgesssu release $NEW_RELEASE11:09
sledgesversion --dup11:09
sledgesand run11:10
sledgesssu release
sledgesversion --dup11:10
sledgesthen repeat the same with some dodgy repos11:10
alinsledges: Your device is now in release mode!11:11
sledgesalso possible to run ssu lr during version --dup process, to see if it isolates anything at all11:11
alinsledges: i have your experimental and mine11:11
alinare they dodgy enough?11:11
sledgesthey should be in11:11
sledgesin case they have updates11:11
alinsledges: Changing release from to
sledges14:10 < sledges> flash
sledges14:10 < sledges> and run11:11
sledges14:10 < sledges> ssu release
sledges14:10 < sledges> version --dup11:11
sledgesand other repos should be disabled11:11
sledgescreate a conflicting repo11:11
sledgeshaving something which updated from .28 to .2911:12
alinsledges: ok.. this was good enough to show one issue11:12
alinsledges: now practically the device is dead11:12
alinsledges: since the dhdpolicy settings was  not provided by any repo11:13
sledgesperfect, first bug foudn;)11:14
alinsledges: yap but this is the one I was saying earlier... if you have a package installed from some random repo that does not exist anymore... insanity11:15
alinsledges: this is artificial since dhd shall come from the dhdrepo11:15
sledgesof coure11:15
sledgesthat'ß why we'll build from obs11:16
alinsledges: yap11:16
alinsledges: anyhow this is the most common issue that one has with dup11:16
stephghow/where do TARGET_DEVICE and TARGET_KERNEL_CONFIG get picked up11:17
stephgI seem to be left only with 'generic' so my hybris-hal make fails11:17
stephgignore me11:18
stephgI needed to breakfast again11:18
* sledges goes to lunch11:19
stephg(tho it is lunchtime, hohoho)11:19
* stephg squints at sledges11:19
* sledges smirks11:19
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* Nokius|mobile missed to add alin to the last message =(11:31
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yangmI... can't install warehouse on the latest nexus 5 build?12:29
sledgesyangm: did you try with alpha1112:30
sledges(just out this morning)12:30
yangmI'm using alpha1012:30
sledgesit has jolla store hotfix12:30
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yangmdownloading it12:34
yangmalso, is there a way to dirty-flash rom updates?12:34
sledgesnot at the moment12:35
sledgesthere is a way to make backup and transfer all your data though12:35
yangmand also skip setup and tutorial? :)12:35
sledgesskip tutorial by tapping on corners clockwise, starting with top-left12:36
sledgesduring very first screen12:36
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nh1402thank you, I've had to go through the tutorial every single time, shall I post it on xda for others to know too?12:39
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klopsi-u3hi iKozzz12:48
yangmalso, is the "choose jolla apps" working? mine just sits there, loading12:51
iKozzzsledges: i made img with mounted Android storage to /sdcard. but it still not accessable12:51
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yangmsorry for the n00b question but why do we need to flash sailfish on top of cyanogenmod?13:02
iKozzzsledges: but wait, No it actually mounted and 'nemo' can access it. Cool now i can see content through Mediaplayer an Gallery ))13:03
iKozzzyangm: because it uses "some drivers" from it13:04
yangmupdated to alpha11 but still get "Fatal error: nothing provides needed by harbour-warehouse-0.3-30.armv7hl"13:05
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yangmiKozzz, and we can't bundle them for, let me guess, legal reasons?13:06
iKozzzi'm not an expert in this, maybe)13:06
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yangmluckily, nexus 9 has a drivers partition13:07
yangmthis should have been standard for a long time13:07
iKozzzyangm: i suggest you to read HADK pdf to make your self more familiar with whole process13:08
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yangmalpha9 installed warehouse with no problems whatsoever but seemed to have some audio issues, now alpha10/11 has some audio fixes but won't install warehouse ¯\_(ツ)_/¯13:10
yangmgonna read it13:10
sledgesnh1402: why don't you just link them to
sledgesyangm: check that link too ^ (question 4 on warehouse - you should use that method to install)13:16
iKozzzsledges: how did you fix mp3 ? I'm missing it in my IMG (cameraplus is working), or please tell me how to debug13:18
sledgesiKozzz: when did you build it/which .zip?13:18
sledgesyou need to update to latest libhybris13:18
yangminstalling any jolla store app fixed the error13:19
iKozzzsledges: i added 2 lines to init-script and built "mkdir /target/sdcardmount --bind /data/media/0 /target/sdcard"13:22
sledgesiKozzz: perfect, now how to make it per-device? ;) because not every device will have /data/media/0 ... :/13:22
iKozzzthen ln -s when booted13:22
sledgesln -s to where?13:23
nh1402sledges: done13:23
sledgesnh1402: cool13:23
iKozzz[nemo@Jolla ~]$ ln -s /sdcard/Music/ /home/nemo/Music/13:23
iKozzz[nemo@Jolla ~]$ ln -s /sdcard/Pictures/ /home/nemo/Pictures/13:23
sledgesiKozzz: aaaa13:23
iKozzz[nemo@Jolla ~]$ ln -s /sdcard/DCIM/ /home/nemo/Pictures/13:23
yangmCuteSpot won't work still, "Fatal error: harbour-cutespot-1.5.4-1.armv7hl requires qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-audio-pulseaudio, but this requirement cannot be provided"13:24
yangmeven though audio works with some random radio app from jolla store13:24
iKozzzsledges: at least we have it on hammerhead)13:25
nh1402screenshots should really be built-in, but there are of course more important things to work on.13:25
yangmyep, a power menu wouldn't hurt anyone13:26
sledgesiKozzz: but in this way you overwrite your current content13:26
sledgesit's good that all goes into same place, but probably ln -s /sdcard/ /home/nemo/from_android13:27
sledgeswould work too13:27
sledgesiKozzz: and probably your method would break camera and others, as it could no longer write to Pictures13:29
iKozzzyou mean Adroid side?13:30
sledgessailfish side13:31
iKozzzi took a picture just now on camera plus and it stored on SF13:31
sledgesas /home/nemo/Pictures/ becomes no longer writeable13:31
iKozzzls /home/nemo/Pictures/Camera/13:32
iKozzzhas my photo13:32
sledgesdid you chmod /data/media/0 ?13:32
sledgesls -ld /android/media/0/Pictures13:32
iKozzzwhen i did so a broke system again last time13:32
iKozzzi don't have /android folder13:33
sledgesls -ld /android/Pictures13:33
sledgesls -ld /sdcard/Pictures13:33
iKozzzno it's /sdcard =)13:34
iKozzzls -ld /sdcard/13:34
iKozzzdrwxrwxrwx 23 media_rw media_rw 4096 1970-09-04 07:40 /sdcard/13:34
sledgesand Pictures?13:34
iKozzzsame for Pictures13:35
sledgesso it's chmodded13:35
sledgesit's not like that on standard layout13:35
iKozzzls -ld /sdcard/Pictures/13:35
iKozzzdrwxrwxrwx 2 nemo media_rw 4096 1970-08-08 07:50 /sdcard/Pictures13:35
sledgesthat's why it works for you13:35
sledgesdrwxrwxr-x media_rw media_rw          2015-01-15 12:41 Pictures13:35
sledgeson my n513:35
iKozzzso that is what i need13:36
iKozzzalready chmoded13:36
sledgesnemo is not in media_rw groups13:36
sledgescould you confirm?13:36
sledges(type groups)13:36
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iKozzzhave a "media"13:37
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sledgesso it won't work if you chmod 77513:40
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iKozzzif i make chmod i will broke the system13:41
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sledgeschmod 775 /sdcard/Pictures13:42
sledgesthat's safe13:42
sledgesand it will not be able to store your taken photos anymore13:42
sledgesmy point being, that a fresh install on other devices won't be able to use your ln -s method13:42
sledgeswithout careful chmodding13:43
iKozzzmaybe, but it works with N5 as temporary solution13:44
iKozzzsledges: where is jolla's sdcard is located?13:45
yangmtalking 'bout solutions, anyone got cutespot working on n5?13:45
nh1402talking about solutions has anyone thought of any other ideas to get android app support working? ;)13:47
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locusfport art to wayland and glibc?13:49
sledgesyangm: how are you installing cutespot ?13:49
nh1402bad that's soo hard13:49
yangmdalvik should be good enough13:49
locusftheres no easy way out13:50
yangmsledges, tried from warehouse and pkcon13:50
locusfapkenv is only for jni apps13:50
sledgesyangm: try zypper in qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-audio-pulseaudio13:50
nh1402how about chroot into android with GUI?, a script could be written to show the icon in sailfish, and another script to chroot into android, and run the app. No idea how one would get out of chroot though.13:51
sledgesyangm: solves deps better13:51
sledgesyangm: or just pkcon install qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-audio-pulseaudio13:52
yangminstalled with zypper13:52
yangmsledges for president!13:54
yangminstalled cutespot13:55
* yangm wonders why warehouse didn't try to use zypper13:55
sledgespkcon would've worked too13:55
sledgeswarehouse just didn't know how to resolve repo problem13:56
yangmwhen on alpha9 I got some nasty problems13:56
yangmit may be that alpha11 fixed it though13:56
locusfnh1402: would android run inside chroot?13:56
vgrade_cutespot working here nicely, while stationary13:56
nh1402locusf: This suggests that it is possible.13:57
yangmwhy is ubuntu touch buggy and sailfish os smooth?14:00
Stskeepsbuilt by company with a clue?14:00
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locusfnh1402: init needs to be pid 1 for android, systemd takes it after switch_root instead14:05
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nh1402locusf: pid being process id?, I'm guessing that means it won't be possible to chroot then.14:08
locusfnh1402: yes14:09
locusfits curious that myriad already had the capability of running dalvik on X in 2010, when it announced android apps compatibility in MeeGo14:16
nh1402haven't they also demonstrated that it could work on iOS as well?14:16
locusfdunno about that14:17
locusfit was in 2011 sorry14:17
yangmiOS apps in linux? this could be helpful even for android14:21
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nh1402that's not what this is14:22
nh1402there was a different project that does that, but like many, it was abandoned.14:23
yangmif we put together all devs that tried running iOS apps without iOS, we would have this thing running in weeks14:24
yangmor another abandoned project14:24
locusfmyriad apparently had the effort significant enough to build a business on14:26
locusflicensing their software to Jolla is a good deal14:26
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nh1402well Microsoft announced yesterday that with some slight modifications to both iOS and Android code, you could get those apps working on Windows 10. If you can find out exactly how that works then we could be on to something.14:26
yangmwindows apps are ported from iOS or android14:29
yangmnot emulated iOS or android14:29
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yangmso we would need access to the source code of every app and mod it accordingly14:30
locusfas I said, art or dalvik on wayland glibc14:31
nh1402I didn't say they were emulated. I said slight modifications to iOS and Android code.14:31
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locusfart would be good if dalvik some day gets deprecated14:32
nh1402well it is kind of deprecated already with Android Lollipop.14:33
yangmbut just like gingerbread, it's going to float around forever14:33
yangmso we can work on dalvik first if it end up being easier14:34
nh1402ART has a bit more native code conversion than Dalvik.14:35
nh1402and won't require a JIT compiler14:36
yangmhow chrome is running android apps again?14:37
nh1402ARC, App Runtime for Chrome14:38
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nh1402but there are a whole bunch of dependency issues that come along with building a version of chromium that works on wayland and ARM devices, and running it on Sailfish, and even after all that we could just find that it just won't work on chromium.14:40
yangmI see14:42
nh1402so we are left with 2 options, activating Android via CM, or getting the Dalvik Runtime  or to get ART to work on Sailfish, and I don't know how to go about doing that.14:44
nh1402I have a little bit of experience programming with C++, so I could help if someone else who knew what they were doing would lead the project.14:47
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locusfyep thats the problem, nobody does :/14:48
nh1402I've just sent a PM to Tungstwenty as he helped with Xposed, as I can't contact rovo89. Let's see what happens.14:50
lukedirtwalkerhm I recently saw the chromium running in the SailfishOS emulator but that is not arm. Anyway from the userame I would say it is this code:
yangmI heard about this port too14:53
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yangmdoes it even compile to arm?14:55
nh1402chromium in itself does14:56
vrutkovsdisable_nacl=1 there would forbid running ARC afaik14:56
vgrade_ looks like it disables native client14:56
vgrade_vrutkovs: snap14:56
vrutkovshivemind ;)14:56
nh1402again if someone knew what they were doing, they could write the necessary code to enable NaCl along with support for Chrome Extensions14:58
vgrade_nh =014:58
vgrade_nh1402: =014:58
nh1402is that supposed to be a shocked face?14:59
yangm[insert it's something meme here]14:59
nh1402I don't understand what's going on14:59
nh1402it surely can't be that simple15:00
locusfcool, could somebody do a test build?15:00
vgrade_nh1402: who knows15:01
nh1402locusf: I have no idea how, and don't have linux installed on my laptop anymore.15:01
vgrade_until one tries15:01
nh1402yangm: That's another paid solution15:02
nh1402that's how Tizen is getting Android app support irrc15:02
locusfI believe we've got ablemachined individuals here15:02
vgrade_does the arc stuff work on chromium I've only seen it on chrome15:07
locusfgood question15:08
vgrade_"App Runtime for Chrome is a partially open-sourced project being developed by Google@15:09
yangmpartial open soure15:09
yangmpartial open soure everywhere15:09
yangm"Jolla should be offering AD as a paid add-on via the store, not expecting the community to whisk a decent alternative into reality from thin air."15:13
yangmsome random guy @ xda15:13
locusfdamn, dead end15:15
nh1402well until ARC isn't fully open source we could use ARChon15:27
yangmwhat about
nh1402this suggests that it should work on chromium15:28
locusfyangm: its jni native apps only, no jvm normal android apps15:34
nh1402whats the problem with using archon, or even arc welder?15:36
yangmlooks like the main problem is getting native client and chromium playing nice15:37
iKozzzsledges: is libhybris/releases/ is latest ?15:40
locusfit just needs a mb2 run15:43
iKozzzi rebuild it by hand and now making new IMG with some magic for sdcard. Also tell me please how to debug my mp3 issue if it's not works15:43
sledgesiKozzz: you can just sideload libhybris to old15:44
sledges no need for new img15:44
locusfif anyone else won't take it, I could take a spin saturday15:44
nh1402locusf: about quicksilver and archon?15:44
sledgesiKozzz: scp all libhybris* (except devel) packages to phone and do devel-su rpm -Uvh --force --oldpackage libhybris*.rpm15:44
iKozzzsledges: i made some changes for init-script, that's why i'm rebuilding15:45
sledgesiKozzz: i have a feeling mount via init scripts is just for convenience15:46
sledgesand security15:46
sledgesbut if you have no multirom, whole /data is mounted anyway15:46
nh1402well looks like I still have the linux mint ISO, I could try and build it in virtualbox, but would need instructions of what to do15:46
sledgesi feared that tracker may index all /data, if it's put somewhere like /sdcard15:46
sledgesbut it looks tracker is only interested in /home/nemo/*15:47
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iKozzzsledges: i'm trying this trick (mount --bind /data/media/0 /target/run/user/100000/media/sdcard) to see what's happen then15:49
nh1402locusf: Do you have to build it in the Sailfish VM, or Linux Mint alright?15:49
locusfnh1402: you could use sfos mer sdk vm15:49
sledgesiKozzz: i see what you did there. but this doesn't require any changes to init-scripts. you could revert them and do like #16 in
iKozzznh1402: i'll try to build quicksilver soon15:50
nh1402iKozzz: thanks15:52
iKozzzsledges: this is not exactly what i want. I came from this to that point where i am now) I'd like to rech effect as it would be a native sdcard or so...15:53
yangmarc welder won't even open amazon app store -_- (tried on chromium at a mac)15:54
sledgesiKozzz: yes, i see what you are trying to do. just saying that in the end it would all be equivalent if you did --bind in early init, or later during systemd boot. Moreover, i think /run (tmpfs) moutnpoints won't be ready so early in boot as you're trying to do. lastly, /sdcard is taken care by sdcard hotplug script15:56
locusfiKozzz: thanks15:56
sledgesiKozzz: but tracker might pick /sdcard already, if it's contentful, so best of success for you! now you got all info you need (maybe even more:P)15:58
iKozzzsledges: thanks, i'll read more about it15:58
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locusfif I could get a proof-of-concept chromium with Android apps running on Raspberry Pi 2, for Happy Hacking Day, that would be quite nice :)16:03
yangmcan't we just qemu the crap of stripped down android?16:03
locusfqemu doesn't run with wayland16:03
iKozzzsledges: my mp3 problem is still exist. How can i debug? Sorry i forgot that cmd (DEBUG "2") something16:11
yangmnh1402, how is the progress on this?
nh1402yangm: same place stuck at setup screen with no input, tried multiple things with no success16:19
yangmI think you can skip the setup screen but can you use any other kind of input? like a usb mouse?16:21
yangmmaybe flash sailfish on top of an already set up cyanogenmod with adb enabled should give us more info16:22
nh1402I don't have a usb OTG cable16:22
nh1402I tried that and it wouldn't boot16:22
yangmcopying data from another cyanogenmod partition also don't work?16:22
nh1402what would that do?16:23
yangmso you could enable adb and go past install screen16:23
sledgesiKozzz: are your droidmedia and gst-droid very latest?16:23
iKozzzdon't know actually16:24
iKozzzi did repo sync today, is that it?16:24
yangmnh1402, have you documented your method? I think this is the best solution at the moment16:25
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nh1402it's also at the bottom of the first post in the XDA thread16:27
yangmgot flashing red light while booting cyanogenmod16:30
nh1402on the odd occasion it doesn't work, but most of the time it does16:30
nh1402yangm: Are you using Nexus 5?16:31
nh1402and the modified init.rc in the Sailfish ROM16:31
nh1402renaming it to "init.rc" replacing the existing one16:32
yangmlooks like I need to drink some coffee16:33
yangmjust realized I forgot the init.rc16:33
yangmI mean, it's there but I forgot to rename it16:33
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nh1402if you're running the commands through ssh then it'll break once it "boots", so you'll be on your own16:37
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nh1402if you're running it from the phone, you'll need to stop lipstick and run surfaceflinger in the same line, otherwise you'll lose input to sailfish too.16:37
nh1402before you boot into CM16:37
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yangmI'm going to google what's the adb authorized file and try to paste it drom my lollipop rom into cm16:40
yangmand see if I get adb access16:40
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nh1402well if you're plugging it in the first time a dialog box should pop up on the phone saying to trust the RSA key thing, and you need to click OK, which you can't do since you don't have input16:41
yangmjust like a ssh authorized_hosts16:42
yangmI didn't lose ssh access though16:43
yangmafter booting cm16:43
yangmnh1402, did you use usb ssh or wireless ssh?16:44
nh1402I'm not actually sure16:45
yangmI'm using wireless ssh16:46
nh1402that would explain why it would break, how would you connect via usb ssh then?16:46
nh1402I use usb ssh, but it still breaks16:48
yangmwireless ssh didn't break16:48
yangmbut I just connected it to usb and adb sees no device16:49
yangmonly if I knew where authorized RSA keys are stored at...16:54
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nh1402where are you running adb devices?16:59
nh1402if you're using the Android SDK, it recognises it as unauthorised17:00
nh1402it doesn't recognise it on if you're running adb on the phone itself.17:00
yangmI'm running on a mac17:01
yangm[~]$ adb devices17:03
yangmList of devices attached17:03
nh1402can't help you there I'm afraid17:03
yangmit may be because I booted sailfish without usb cable on17:05
yangmso it's stored at /data/misc/adb/adb_keys17:05
yangmyou can authorize your pc on a working rom17:06
yangmand copy it to sailfish17:06
phdesweryangm: your phone runs sailfish now? As it is booted in Sailfish?17:07
phdeswerThen there should not be adb17:07
Stskeepsbtw, you guys who are hacking on android.. mce will hook the input devices so android can't get to them17:07
yangmphdeswer, we are booting cyanogenmod inside sailfish17:07
phdesweryangm: ah ok.17:07
phdeswerWell sometimes adb devices works better when running as admin/root17:08
nh1402Stskeeps: I did try to kill mce when booting into CM but that didn't make a difference either, still got no input.17:08
phdeswerBut not sure who has control of the usb now, sailfish or cyanogenmod17:08
phdeswerAnd I do not know if on mac there are similar tools like lsusb to tell what is maybe connected17:08
Stskeepsnh1402: okay, then you might want to see if /dev  input devices are where they're, as they'd be in android..17:10
Stskeepsand see if there's any /etc hardcoding17:10
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yangmbrightness adjustment works surprisingly well17:12
nh1402Stskeeps: I'm afraid I don't know what that means17:12
yangmphdeswer, installing lsusb17:12
Stskeepsnh1402: okay.. try systemctl mask mce.service, reboot, and then the startup17:13
yangmlsusb gave me Bus 250 Device 006: ID 18d1:0afe Google Inc. Nexus 5  Serial:17:14
phdeswerYep looks like cyanogenmod has it controlled. Not sure which interface that is though.17:15
phdeswerDepends what is set as default in /init.usb.rc usually17:16
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yangmI could try booting ubuntu, but then I would need to install ubuntu...17:16
yangm(on pc, to try adb)17:17
phdesweryangm: Not sure if that would help much, if that usb interface on the phone is not set to adb anyway17:18
yangmbecause it seems to work with nh1402 "out of the box"17:18
yangmso even though there is no problem on my machine, it could be some kind of bizarre incompatibility17:19
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yangmfunny to see sailfish and cyanogen fighting each other for the led control17:27
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yangmsailfish wants a blinking red for some reason, while cyanogen wants it light up because it's charging17:27
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vgrade_locusf: looks like missing source in quicksilver git,
locusfvgrade_: try to edit .spec to have ./configure17:35
nh1402yangm: Well I copied the adb_keys file like you said, and did systemctl mask mce.service like Stskeeps said, but still nothing, same RSA fingerprint dialog box, and no input.17:37
vgrade_locusf: wonder why it has extra path17:37
yangmnh1402, strange17:37
nh1402here's hoping quicksilver works17:38
locusfvgrade_: did you mod the nacl?17:40
vgrade_not yet, wanted to see how far I got building on OBS17:40
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yangmnh1402, I think the android input daemon didn't even get a chance to start because when I hold power button it goes trough the jolla shutdown process17:47
locusfvgrade_: obviously build instructions required, shucks17:47
nh1402it doesn't for me17:47
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yangmI mean, no spash screen, but red led and times are the same17:49
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yangmnh1402, as an alternative to copying the adbfile from another rom17:49
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vgrade_locusf: looks like that repo is not complete and requires the main chromium repo
nh1402yangm: What's the alternative to copying the adbfile from another rom?17:50
yangmyou can, on your pc, cat ~/.android/ and paste the contents on the phone17:50
vgrade_locusf: so a quick OBS build is not a quick win17:50
yangmI'm looking forward disabling authentication altogether17:51
yangmbut this may work17:51
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yangmas long as the new file has the right permissions17:51
yangm-rw-r----- system   shell        2163 2014-12-20 19:11 adb_keys17:52
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nh1402yangm: Have you at least gotten to the same stage as me?17:55
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yangmnope, still trying to get adb to see my device17:55
nh1402doesn't even say unauthorised?17:56
yangmit sees no device at all17:56
nh1402I'm guessing you don't have another machine to test on17:57
yangmjust another os x machine17:57
yangmI may install a linux/windows just to test this17:57
vgrade_locusf: so it looks like qt_port directory should be placed in
vgrade_and then the configure patches the main chromium source tree17:59
vgrade_and builds17:59
vgrade_nh1402: are you following?18:00
nh1402vgrade: as much as I understand, yes18:01
vgrade_do you have a mer/sailfish build environment/18:02
nh1402MerSDK, and Sailfish VM from SDK18:02
yangmlooks like booting sailfish with usb plugged on makes the device appear on adb18:03
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yangmgoing to have a lunch18:04
vgrade_nh1402: if you grab
vgrade_then add the quicksilver repo into a directory called qt_port you may be able to build an rpm18:05
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nh1402vgrade_: is it literally the command "grab"18:11
nh1402i'm having issues getting root on sailfishvm18:14
nh1402using putty on windows18:15
nh1402nm, finally in18:17
vgrade_nh1402: probably better to use mersdk and a sailfish target, and no grab is not a command18:17
vgrade_I meant get the chromium source from that git repo at that revision18:17
tathhunew events view on next update? :--------D18:17
tathhuI was like two days behind18:17
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nh1402with my internet connection it's going to take a damn long time18:25
vgrade_nh1402: you may want to use the gclient and use the DEPS file directly as this may limit the source it pulls18:26
nh1402vgrade_: Unfortunately I don't know what that means18:27
yangm"Unfortunately I don't know what that means" is the history of my life, bro.18:28
vgrade_nh1402: well I did not know about DEPS files until 10 mns ago, just did a quick google
yangmnh1402, so..18:30
yangmI got adb using that method18:31
yangmnow what we can do?18:31
nh1402you can try and use adb to get input working18:31
vgrade_locusf: sent the quicksilver guy an email18:31
locusfvgrade_: ok thanks for that :)18:32
yangmnh1402, "Unfortunately I don't know what that means"18:32
yangmI never tinkered with android this way18:32
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nh1402neither have I, I've just been doing research to try and learn enough to get it working.18:32
vgrade_locusf: thought I'd email first before jumping in18:34
yangmnh1402, gonna try this
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nh1402yangm: anything?19:10
yangmnh1402, I got to remote control it over adb19:10
yangmand that's it19:10
yangmI don't know how to debug it19:10
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yangmwhat I do understand is: sailfish is holding input control19:12
yangmnh1402, how far have you gone?19:12
nh1402I'm in the process trying to build quicksilver, trying to find out how to use gclient for the deps file19:13
yangmwhat it does?19:14
yangmdid you get adb working?19:14
nh1402I believe its gets the relevant files from the git repo, rather than clone the entire repo, and no I have not19:15
yangmhave you tried alternative way?19:15
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nh1402for adb? I have not.19:19
yangmmy sailfish is acting strange after booting cyanogenmod19:29
yangmcutespot seems to stop playback after the first seconds of a song19:29
yangmSkyFm crashes at any station19:30
nh1402well I can't get anywhere with gclient and the quicksilver deps file, and I can't seem to find how to get android input working from adb19:30
nh1402yangm: how did you get back into sailfish, restart?, or kill surfaceflinger?19:31
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nh1402check top and see what's running19:32
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yangmI think it may be because of some config file being modified after booting cm19:33
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nh1402kill zygote19:35
yangmmm-qcamera-daemon is used by sailfish?19:35
nh1402I'm not sure19:35
yangm[root@Jolla nemo]# pidof zygote19:37
yangm[root@Jolla nemo]# kill -stop 820519:37
yangmbash: kill: (8205) - No such process19:37
yangm[root@Jolla nemo]# pidof zygote19:37
yangm[root@Jolla nemo]# kill -stop 922719:37
yangmbash: kill: (9227) - No such process19:37
yangmuh... wat?19:37
nh1402it wants to restart19:38
nh1402setprop ctl.stop zygote19:38
nh1402I think thats how it works19:38
yangmwhat zygote is?19:39
nh1402scientifically speaking its the first stage of a baby being developed19:41
nh1402so in Android it's what kickstarts the system server which in turn starts the dalvikvm and runs all the other services19:41
yangmI wanted to start a playlist in spotify and start android to check how multitask is going19:43
nh1402I don't think that's safe to do yet, they are kind of interlocked19:45
yangmso... what and how we should debug?19:46
nh1402need to find a way to switch input between sailfish and android19:48
yangmisn't there an easy way to forward the input?19:48
nh1402From the research I've done it looks like Eventhub gets it from /dev/input/ much like how in Sailfish its done by mce19:48
nh1402Eventhub being Androi19:48
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yangmlooks like booting cyanogen causes the system to run android process19:49
nh1402well switching between Lipstick and Surfaceflinger wasn't supposed to be that cooperative to begin with. Input is going to be a struggle.19:49
yangmcamera won't launch19:50
yangmand music playback have been having some hiccups19:50
nh1402that's why I have an android testing sailfish rom in multirom, and a normal usage sailfish rom19:50
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yangmnh1402, what if both OSes used lipstick or surfaceflinger?19:59
nh1402I'm not sure, I think Sailfish uses surfaceflinger for debugging purposes but I don't think they want to stick with it because of Lipstick using Wayland, and I don't think Android will work with anything but surfaceflinger20:01
yangmbut if it did, would it be easier to plug one inside another?20:03
nh1402I think the input works independently of of them, well surfaceflinger does anyway.20:04
yangmhave you already tried starting surfaceflinger as nemo?20:10
yangmdon't seem to work20:11
nh1402well using the original init.rc file, killing lipstick and starting surfaceflinger just results in an endless loop of the CM boot animation20:12
yangmwhat did you mod?20:12
yangmsuddenly, I can't boot into cm anymore20:13
nh1402yh, sometimes its flakey20:14
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yangmnh1402, what was needed to change in init.rc?20:18
nh1402I enabled the android services that were disabled by sailfish20:19
nh1402then surfaceflinger is the last piece of the puzzle, and then gets CM booting, with all the necessary services20:20
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yangmit's like watching DragonBall :P20:23
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yangmnh1402, what if you boot surfaceflinger from another cyanogen partition?20:41
nh1402that might be safer, any ideas?20:42
yangmI don't know how multirom "partitioning" system works20:45
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Nokiusevening o/20:47
Nokiusvgrade_: Oh the second smile in my face done by M$ today20:51
Nokiusvgrade_: like this tweet20:51
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yangmnh1402, chrooting wasn't sucessful?21:16
nh1402locusf, found that it wasn't possible21:17
yangmhow come?21:19
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nh1402conflict of process id, systemd and init want pid 1, but after booting into Sailfish systemd takes pid 121:20
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nh1402Well today was pretty good, yangm managed to get adb access when booting into CM, and ssh doesn't break if using ssh over wifi AND quicksilver is promising, if configured to play nice with NaCl then we could get Android app support working via ARChon21:35
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nh1402well that's me done for the night, I'll probably be around tomorrow. Good Night!21:59
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