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| alin | sledges: what we need today with all this talk about ubuntu a jolla tablet news | 10:19 |
| nh1402 | fight fire with fire | 10:21 |
| alin | nh1402: nope I doubt there is a fight... I have played with ubuntu on my hammerhead and is a lost cause... two much a desktop/tablet os rather than a phone | 10:23 |
| alin | nh1402: one thing they do pretty well at ubuntu... the noise and in this noise people may like to know there are other alternatives | 10:24 |
| nh1402 | I briefly tried it too. I agree, the UX is not designed for a phone at all imo. | 10:24 |
| nh1402 | that dock is too prominent | 10:25 |
| alin | sledges: I had a good bad experience with the sensors... they stopped working... the chat and email were in landscape mode... | 10:25 |
| alin | this happened in the past too... I needed to restart | 10:25 |
| alin | the phone... but today restarting the apps was enough... to make them start in landscape... but the sensors are still dead | 10:26 |
| alin | now... before I restart do you want any debug info? | 10:26 |
| alin | spiiroin: ^^^ | 10:26 |
| nh1402 | alin: what information do you think Jolla should release about the tablet?, some more about Sailfish 2.0?, battery life and some other stuff? | 10:27 |
| alin | nh1402: nope... distribution reinforcement... start of the developer programme shipping | 10:27 |
| alin | nh1402: whatever is needed to prove the existence and excite the neurons | 10:28 |
| nh1402 | and start a countdown for mainstream release | 10:28 |
| alin | nh1402: yes we used to have a button people could put it on their sites at opensuse | 10:28 |
| alin | nh1402: we still have | 10:28 |
| alin | nh1402: the problem you need to be sure you do it in that day | 10:29 |
| nh1402 | we could also try and get apkenv working on non-jolla phones, get people talking on that front too | 10:30 |
| alin | nh1402: not a big fan of android | 10:37 |
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| nh1402 | but other people are, there are numerous people who would like android apps working on Sailfish. But aren't helping to make it happen. | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | non-jolla1 sailfish, to be specific | 10:40 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:40 |
| nh1402 | it is a small thing, but how come the Sailfish logo isn't available in multirom, is it a trademark thing? | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | trademark thing probably | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | some things we do to ensure a proper community ability while at same time being able to license | 10:44 |
| alin | Stskeeps: but you can license for free or for a confidential non disclosable sum for multirom | 10:47 |
| nh1402 | did you hear about this in the news today http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/some-hero-managed-to-get-android-running-on-a-calculator-1297616 | 10:56 |
| nh1402 | I wonder how much better it would run with Sailfish :P | 10:56 |
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| Stskeeps | alin: usually you'd say commercial sailfish comes with patent permissions, trademarks, etc | 10:57 |
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| alin | Stskeeps: ok maybe we need a community logo sailfish inspired | 11:05 |
| Stskeeps | we had a bit of discussion about it in meego days that community could utilize some kind of sub-brand | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | like sailfish R&D | 11:06 |
| spiiroin | alin nh1402: might be nice to know if any sensorfwd related errors are in the journal; also instead of rebooting the whole device might be worth checking if restarting sensorfwd.service is enough | 11:12 |
| mal- | just a note related to trademarks, it would be nice to be able change the Jolla logo that appears during shutdown even on ported devices, since it's not really a jolla phone but a sailfish one | 11:12 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 11:13 |
| Stskeeps | we'll probably sort that out | 11:13 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:13 |
| nh1402 | mal-: that's a good point | 11:13 |
| spiiroin | ... and since there has been problems with mce/sensorfwd restart while display is off -> display on/off might make a difference while restarting sensord | 11:14 |
| mal- | not sure which process shows that logo | 11:15 |
| alin | spiiroin: no idea... but now the sensors started working without restarting after a while... the only event I had was a wireless disconnet and a connect back | 11:18 |
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| spiiroin | alin: I have no idea how something like that might affect the sensors. Some odd dbus block cascade perhaps, but that should cause other issues too. Was the ui responsive? | 11:25 |
| alin | spiiroin: yes | 11:28 |
| alin | spiiroin: all worked except the rotation sensor was not working... and the compass was showing zero | 11:28 |
| alin | went to get a tea and lost the wireless connection... double checked when back and all was working | 11:29 |
| alin | the phone was in my pocket if that matters | 11:29 |
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| Vae_DuckZ | hello, I read on this page https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris that the galaxy nexus can run sailfish os | 12:56 |
| Vae_DuckZ | I need to get a new phone for a second simcard I have, but I don't want to spend a lot of money on it, so a 2nd hand galaxy nexus seems reasonable | 12:57 |
| Vae_DuckZ | can I expect it to make calls and send/receive text messages with sf? I don't have internet access on that sim, so calls and messages is all I need | 12:58 |
| Vae_DuckZ | or are there better alternatives? | 12:58 |
| nh1402 | if you click on galaxy nexus on that table then you'll get instructions to download and install | 13:00 |
| nh1402 | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris/Install_SailfishOS_for_maguro | 13:01 |
| nh1402 | anything green in that table means it's working, so yes calls and texts will work on the galaxy nexus as well as a lot of other things | 13:02 |
| Vae_DuckZ | ok, also I have no idea about what phone does what, is "samsung galaxy nexus I9250" the same galaxy nexus thing in that table? | 13:05 |
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| nh1402 | I'm guessing yes | 13:10 |
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| Vae_DuckZ | ok thanks! | 13:25 |
| nh1402 | out of interest do you know OpenGL? | 13:26 |
| Vae_DuckZ | hm? the graphic library? | 13:28 |
| nh1402 | yes | 13:28 |
| nh1402 | I'm taking that as a no then | 13:29 |
| Vae_DuckZ | I know I little bit, I just didn't expect the question | 13:29 |
| Vae_DuckZ | a* | 13:29 |
| nh1402 | work is being done to add android app compatibility to sailfish via a renderer and chroot, but are currently having OpenGL related problems, and due to lack of knowledge in the area, further progress can't be made. | 13:30 |
| Vae_DuckZ | hmm aside of compiling shaders and sending vertices to the pipeline, I don't have any special knowledge | 13:33 |
| Vae_DuckZ | every time I tried to learn opengl a bit more, I've been confronted with the wrong/obsolete documentation you find around, even in the red book | 13:34 |
| Vae_DuckZ | but maybe you can find some real expert on #opengl? | 13:34 |
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| nh1402 | they don't seem to respond | 13:42 |
| nh1402 | at least about my questions | 13:44 |
| Vae_DuckZ | hmm it was ##OpenGL, not sure if you were redirected right | 13:45 |
| Vae_DuckZ | wait a little bit maybe, idk :( | 13:45 |
| Vae_DuckZ | some channels tend to be slow | 13:46 |
| nh1402 | I did ask in the right one yesterday. | 13:46 |
| Vae_DuckZ | what's the question btw? I don't think I know the answer but I might give you a hand looking for one | 13:47 |
| nh1402 | I am getting this error: "W/Adreno200-ES20( 2560): <qgl2DrvAPI_glCopyTexImage2D:240>: GL_INVALID_OPERATION" | 13:49 |
| alin | nh1402: ther eis no way to make it spit more info? | 13:54 |
| Vae_DuckZ | "GL_INVALID_OPERATION is generated if the texture array has not been defined by a previous glTexImage2D or glCopyTexImage2D operation or if the internal format of the currently bound texture is not compatible with the color buffer format." | 13:54 |
| Vae_DuckZ | it's telling you what the error is, no? | 13:55 |
| nh1402 | krnlyng is actually the one getting that error, me trying it on the Nexus 5 I don't even get that far. | 13:55 |
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| alin | Vae_DuckZ: not really... three possible causes... | 13:56 |
| Vae_DuckZ | if it works on other platforms, likely it's the latter | 13:57 |
| alin | nh1402: while I suspect one checked the usual suspects... seems to need some internal buffers | 13:57 |
| Vae_DuckZ | but still, 3 causes is better than not having a clue ;) | 13:57 |
| nh1402 | he said he will be back tomorrow, so can get the specifics of his error then, and see what we can do from there. | 14:01 |
| nh1402 | is anything supposed to happen when you run "chroot android /init" android being the folder the extracted android image is in. | 14:08 |
| nh1402 | it doesn't change the root directory, doesn't print anything, doesn't draw anything | 14:09 |
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| nh1402 | I'm sure something else is supposed to happen, right? | 14:18 |
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| locusf | well init takes pid 1 and if it can't it quits | 14:24 |
| nh1402 | well if I run strace it looks like its doing something | 14:28 |
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| gophix | I would like to emulate android renderer and the android chroot environment on i386 before running it on nexus 5. The chroot gives me running qemu but it is not working. The android_renderer stops with a segnetation fault - maybe wrong ABI. | 15:10 |
| gophix | Does it make sense to run/emulate on i386 or should i switch directly to the Nexus 5 with sailfish? | 15:12 |
| nh1402 | gophix: did you get it from here? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95631 | 15:12 |
| nh1402 | are you trying this on sailfish | 15:12 |
| nh1402 | on either phone | 15:12 |
| gophix | yeah the maemo ant XDA-thread (openGL invalid op) | 15:13 |
| nh1402 | whats the error with the android_renderer | 15:14 |
| gophix | atm i compiled the renderer on my Desktop (needed some changes). So I did not trie it on sailfish. I need the nexus as my normal phone and would like to emulate it first. | 15:15 |
| nh1402 | I believe you'll have to change test.sh and have it point to the right GLES files | 15:15 |
| gophix | a very early SegFault. GDB starts but after run it segfaults ('break main' isn't reached) | 15:16 |
| gophix | I let them point into the chroot environment (edited test.sh & test1.sh) | 15:17 |
| nh1402 | yh you'll need to change the test.sh file to point to the right GL libraries for v1, and v2 | 15:18 |
| nh1402 | change it from .so to so.1 for v1 and from .so to so.2 | 15:18 |
| nh1402 | what do you mean by point into the chroot environment | 15:19 |
| gophix | [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] | 15:19 |
| gophix | Using host libthread_db library "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1". | 15:19 |
| gophix | Traceback (most recent call last): | 15:19 |
| gophix | File "/usr/share/gdb/auto-load/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6.0.19-gdb.py", line 63, in <module> | 15:19 |
| gophix | from libstdcxx.v6.printers import register_libstdcxx_printers | 15:19 |
| gophix | ImportError: No module named 'libstdcxx' | 15:19 |
| gophix | This is my test1.sh: ANDROID_WINDOW_SIZE=960x540 ANDROID_EGL_LIB=../android/system/lib/libEGL.so ANDROID_GLESv1_LIB=../android/system/lib/libGLESv1_CM.so ANDROID_GLESv2_LIB=../android/system/lib/libGLESv2.so LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. gdb ./emulator_test_renderer | 15:20 |
| nh1402 | replace the GLESv1 and GLESv2 to this ANDROID_GLESv1_LIB=../android/system/lib/libGLESv1_CM.so.1 ANDROID_GLESv2_LIB=../android/system/lib/libGLESv2.so.2 | 15:21 |
| gophix | still same segFault | 15:25 |
| nh1402 | paste the output into bpaste | 15:29 |
| gophix | I think I linked against Ubuntu System openGLES1/2 libs, and run with Android libs, that should be supposed not to work. | 15:29 |
| nh1402 | possibly | 15:36 |
| gophix | btw I have no ./android/system/lib/libGLESv1_CM.so.1 and libGLESv2.so.2 only .so | 15:38 |
| gophix | these libs are form the maemo thread post (chroot.tar.bz2) | 15:39 |
| nh1402 | you're not supposed to be pointing the libraries to inside the chroot, it's supposed to be to your host machine | 15:40 |
| gophix | ok. | 15:40 |
| gophix | for me misleading const names ANDROID_* | 15:41 |
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| gophix | ok I changed the libs, but the result is still: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. | 15:48 |
| gophix | ldd tells me that there are no linker dependencies to openGLES. | 15:55 |
| gophix | hmm, catch some sun and will try it later. Thanks nh1402. | 15:56 |
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| krnlyng | are there any gl functions which might internally call other gl functions? i am still wondering why i saw the error from glCopyTexImage2D, but glCopyTexImage2D isn't called in my host renderer, even after patching tls | 18:29 |
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| nh1402 | alin: ^ | 18:36 |
| alin | krnlyng: nh1402 no idea | 18:38 |
| alin | krnlyng: do a bt or strace | 18:39 |
| alin | krnlyng: bt shall give you more info | 18:39 |
| krnlyng | alin: how would i use bt? because the call doesn't get through, i don't know where i should set the breakpoint | 18:40 |
| krnlyng | i could break on every gl call maybe... | 18:40 |
| krnlyng | alin: are you good with gles? nh1402 said you might be, i am trying to run android in a chroot with the egl/gles libraries sending calls over tcp to a renderer application (from the android emulator) but all i get is a mostly black screen with some artifacts, i was wondering if you could take a look at the source | 18:43 |
| alin | krnlyng: I am not... last time I used opengl was in 2000 | 18:53 |
| krnlyng | okay :'( | 18:56 |
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| nh1402 | i just had a call on the latest alpha 12, and once the proximity sensor is covered the screen goes black, but not off. | 19:13 |
| nh1402 | and tried lowering call volume but didn't seem to work. | 19:14 |
| alin | nh1402: he he.. you still use your phone for calls? | 19:15 |
| locusf | woops | 19:15 |
| nh1402 | well not often, but it is the primary function of a phone. | 19:15 |
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| alin | nh1402: to be honest thought always the proximity dims | 19:29 |
| MSameer | alin: the latest tag from gst-droid should fix hls (I hope) | 19:29 |
| alin | does not shutdown the screen... no idea about volume | 19:29 |
| alin | MSameer: cool which git repo? | 19:30 |
| alin | MSameer: I can in principle test fast | 19:30 |
| alin | MSameer: now we build almost everything in obs | 19:30 |
| MSameer | alin: sailfishos/gst-droid is where you should get it from | 19:31 |
| alin | MSameer: yap cool.... I will see if sledges wants to trigger a rebuild | 19:31 |
| MSameer | alin: I can add a hook to the repos for you if you want | 19:33 |
| MSameer | sledges: ^ | 19:33 |
| alin | MSameer: what do you mean add a hook? | 19:33 |
| alin | MSameer: retriggered | 19:34 |
| MSameer | when I push a tag -> trigger a build in obs | 19:34 |
| alin | MSameer: maybe not for the time being | 19:34 |
| MSameer | ok | 19:34 |
| alin | MSameer: but that is a good thing | 19:35 |
| alin | MSameer: we will need to see how sledges wants it | 19:35 |
| MSameer | :nod: | 19:35 |
| alin | MSameer: one thing that I always forget to say | 19:36 |
| alin | MSameer: cameraplus does not seem to close on sweep if activated close on sweep | 19:37 |
| mal- | MSameer: just a little thing I noticed, droidmedia fails to build against cm12.1, I think that is to be expected anyway | 19:37 |
| MSameer | alin: what is close on sweep? | 19:37 |
| alin | MSameer: in settings | 19:38 |
| MSameer | mal-: haven't tried to build it against cm12. do we have any phone that uses cm12? | 19:38 |
| alin | MSameer: system shortcuts close on swipe | 19:38 |
| MSameer | alin: I have no idea what that is. I don't recall having a "close on sweep" setting | 19:38 |
| MSameer | alin: aha | 19:38 |
| alin | MSameer: n5 can run cm12.1 | 19:39 |
| MSameer | alin: swipe from the top of the app not the top of the phone (app is in landscape) | 19:39 |
| mal- | MSameer: not yet, my phone has also cm12.1 available, I'm trying to use cm12.1 as base out of curiosity | 19:39 |
| MSameer | alin: yes and 1+ too but do we have/plan to have builds for that? | 19:39 |
| MSameer | mal-: the only thing I can say is either give me a tree with cm12 and hope I will fix it soon or submit a PR | 19:40 |
| alin | MSameer: merdre you were right... with the landscape | 19:40 |
| alin | MSameer: not that I know | 19:40 |
| alin | MSameer: about cm12 for n5 I see no real reason | 19:40 |
| MSameer | alin: I want to support portrait but it's damn hard to implement :/ | 19:40 |
| locusf | mal-'s work will tremendously aid me on my aosp 5 quest once I get something running | 19:41 |
| alin | MSameer: ok hls is not working unless I need to trigger some other rebuild | 19:42 |
| alin | MSameer: debug time | 19:42 |
| MSameer | mal-: locusf that is all good but I also have a list of priorities = I won't get to cm12 in a long time | 19:42 |
| MSameer | alin: which stream are you using? | 19:42 |
| alin | MSameer: one of the bbc ones | 19:43 |
| alin | MSameer: ERROR: from element /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstURIDecodeBin:uridecodebin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/GstHLSDemux:hlsdemux0: Not authorized to access resource. | 19:43 |
| locusf | MSameer: sure, this is just a curiosity on our part :) | 19:43 |
| mal- | MSameer: sure, no problems, just letting you know that there seemed to be some problems, I'll look into those at some point after I get the cm12 based sailfish running otherwise | 19:43 |
| alin | MSameer: Could not fetch the child playlist: Forbidden: gstsouphttpsrc.c(1558): gst_soup_http_src_parse_status (): /GstSoupHTTPSrc:souphttpsrc0: | 19:43 |
| alin | MSameer: let me test in on computer | 19:44 |
| MSameer | alin: nothing to do with gst-droid -> Not authorized to access resource. | 19:47 |
| mal- | alin: I really am doing the cm12 only for others, there is practically no point to use it on my device since cm11 works well | 19:48 |
| MSameer | mal-: BTW how are the camera fixes going? | 19:48 |
| mal- | MSameer: one of the fixes is good but the other is still not | 19:49 |
| MSameer | mal-: which one is which? | 19:49 |
| mal- | MSameer: I think the metadata patch should be good, https://github.com/mlehtima/gst-droid/commit/959e9f648b8f1a304dad367fae26f8b5dc73a2b5 | 19:51 |
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| mal- | but the other with support for cameras without separate video-sizes is still in the same state as before, which you did not approve | 19:52 |
| mal- | in the first patch the GST_VIDEO_CAPS_MAKE_WITH_FEATURES_META_DATA could be moved to some header so it won't be defined twice | 19:53 |
| MSameer | mal-: in general looks good but there are a few minor issues | 19:54 |
| alin | MSameer: interesting seems I cannot play any stream even on my computer | 19:55 |
| alin | MSameer: http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk/query.asp?feedme=BBC+Radio+4+Extra+%5BB4X%5D | 19:55 |
| alin | the yellow ones are international the others from uk | 19:55 |
| MSameer | mal-: move GST_VIDEO_CAPS_MAKE_WITH_FEATURES_META_DATA to plugin.h for example or even to a header in gst-libs/gst/droidmedia | 19:55 |
| MSameer | mal-: do you want the comments here or do you want to submit a PR? | 19:56 |
| mal- | here is ok, then I can fix it before PR | 19:56 |
| mal- | moving that to header was already on my agenda | 19:56 |
| mal- | MSameer: also i think the metadata variable is useless | 19:57 |
| MSameer | mal-: which variable? | 19:58 |
| mal- | https://github.com/mlehtima/gst-droid/commit/959e9f648b8f1a304dad367fae26f8b5dc73a2b5#diff-a3c8d48d8f90ee55bc9fcdaaa85fb775R131 | 19:58 |
| mal- | no reason why I couldn't set it directly to the final variable | 19:59 |
| MSameer | mal-: actually I was about to comment on it :) | 19:59 |
| MSameer | mal-: is the bool exported an int? | 19:59 |
| MSameer | glib gboolean is an int | 19:59 |
| MSameer | is bool an int too? | 19:59 |
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| MSameer | the structure field: md.meta_data | 20:00 |
| mal- | I have to check that | 20:00 |
| MSameer | bool is a C99 extension | 20:03 |
| MSameer | Boolean type | 20:03 |
| MSameer | _Bool (also accessible as the macro bool) - type, capable of | 20:03 |
| MSameer | holding one of the two values: 1 and 0 (also accessible as the macros true and false). | 20:03 |
| MSameer | so in theory it could be a short or maybe a bit field? | 20:03 |
| mal- | that's possible | 20:04 |
| MSameer | in theory we can assign 0 and 1 to it but how does gst_structure_get_int() does the assignment? | 20:04 |
| MSameer | *value = gst_g_value_get_int_unchecked (&field->value); | 20:04 |
| MSameer | not sure where gst_g_value_get_int_unchecked is defined but it seems safe to me | 20:05 |
| mal- | we can cast it as bool also from the get_int | 20:06 |
| MSameer | that might break on big endian :D | 20:06 |
| mal- | hmm | 20:06 |
| MSameer | actually no it should not | 20:06 |
| MSameer | try to pass &md.meta_data directly then | 20:07 |
| MSameer | + if (!droid_media_camera_store_meta_data_in_buffers (src->dev->cam, true)) { | 20:07 |
| MSameer | 1540 | 20:07 |
| MSameer | + gst_caps_set_simple (our_caps, "metadata", G_TYPE_BOOLEAN, FALSE, NULL); | 20:07 |
| MSameer | 1541 | 20:07 |
| MSameer | + } | 20:07 |
| MSameer | bool foo = !droid_media_camera_store_meta_data_in_buffers () | 20:07 |
| MSameer | gst_caps_set_simple(..., foo, NULL); | 20:07 |
| MSameer | mal-: other than those 3, I don;t think I have anything | 20:08 |
| MSameer | mal-: don't forget to submit the PR to sailfishos/gst-droid | 20:08 |
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| mal- | MSameer: shouldn't the last be "bool foo = droid_media_camera_store_meta_data_in_buffers ()" | 20:12 |
| MSameer | mal-: yes :) | 20:12 |
| MSameer | mal-: I copied and pasted without noticing the ! | 20:12 |
| mal- | and why use the temporary variable? | 20:12 |
| MSameer | mal-: to set true and false cases? | 20:13 |
| mal- | ok | 20:13 |
| MSameer | mal-: of course you can do: gst_caps_set_simple (..... , droid_media_camera_store_meta_data_in_buffers()) but I don't like the looks of it :D | 20:13 |
| mal- | ok :) | 20:13 |
| mal- | not very readable | 20:14 |
| mal- | MSameer: this was the other patch https://github.com/mlehtima/gst-droid/commit/99393fe8cec57ad42d8f8ed973dc8403aa048079, you complained that I need to make sure the negotiation is done in correct order | 20:15 |
| mal- | doesn't that come from here https://github.com/sailfishos/gst-droid/blob/master/gst/droidcamsrc/gstdroidcamsrcmode.c#L85 | 20:23 |
| mal- | I'll think about that part | 20:25 |
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| gophix | https://www.khronos.org/opengles/sdk/1.1/docs/man/glCopyTexImage2D.xml: GL_INVALID_OPERATION is generated if internalformat is not compatible with the color buffer format. | 20:45 |
| MSameer | mal-: I need to dig through logs :/ | 20:46 |
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| sledges | alin: webhook on cameraplus or anything else is perfectly fine and encouraged | 21:38 |
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