Monday, 2015-07-27

sledgeslpotter: we're using 1.1.7 latest, where Sensors.conf is still provided by qt-sensors00:01
lpotterhmm ok.00:02
alinlpotter: i think your changes did not make it in the dinal00:02
alinsledges: by the wasy i made sensonrs.conf identical with yorus and makes no difference00:03
lpotterthat 'no sysfs' message above only means the inital als value could not be gotten. should effect hybris als functionality00:03
lpottershould not effect, that is00:04
alinaffect... ok then there is nothing else00:04
alinsledges: xul runner is the other problem we have00:08
alinsledges: crashes on youtube...00:08
alinsledges: can be that mce we use and mce hybris arenot on sync?00:10
sledgesalin: mce hybris are only for LEDs00:12
sledgesalin: try stock xulrunner-qt500:14
alinsledges: tried crashes00:15
sledgesalin: then try
alinsledges: the one deom common?00:17
alinsledges: tried and crashed too00:18
sledgesis not from common00:18
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alinmal clear a memory issue the same version of hybris no chance to connect on 1.1.6 segfaults all the time08:12
sledgesalin: why my one doesn't segfault?08:12
alinsledges: luck?08:13
lpotterit knows better than to misbehave08:16
alinlpotter: ok now I prepare an image that shall show the bug08:18
alinlpotter: the one with the brightness do you know who can help?08:19
alinlpotter: spiiroin &08:19
spiiroinalin: what kind of issues you have with brightness?08:20
alinspiiroin: the proximity sensor works but the brightness is not turned down08:21
alinlpotter: things is als08:21
spiiroinalin: so some als issue? any chance that mce has been configured not to use als?08:22
alinspiiroin: no idea08:22
alinlpotter: is your compass app open source?08:22
spiiroinalin: "mcetool | grep -i als" -> something in "disabled" state?08:25
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alinspiiroin: give me few minutes I need to boot it08:26
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sledgesalin: updated:
mal-alin: there was at least one problem already found with valgrind "Syscall param write(buf) points to uninitialised byte(s)"08:55
alinmal-: yap08:59
alinsledges: cool I will prune my image08:59
alinanyone who wants to test?08:59
mal-alin: but that seems to come from deep inside android gps code09:00
sledgesalin: can you approve the changes pls?09:01
mal-alin: a lot more error after I started a gps app09:02
sledgesalin: thanks, tagged, rebuilding09:02
alinsledges: the most important is the jolla-layout09:03
sledgesalin: that's the task for me today:
merbotNemo bug 833 in Hybris-ing "[TASK] make sfe pattern optional and rename it to dev-tools" [Task,New]09:03
alinsledges: ok09:03
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alinok here is the image09:27
alinif anyone wants to test09:27
alinwill have no youtube workign and proximity sensor does not change brightness09:28
alinotherwise we have few of the older bugs09:28
alinand some new added09:28
alinkimmoli: ping09:28
mal-alin: what does for example messwerk show for the brightness sensor?09:30
alinmal-: nothing09:30
alini mean shows that the proximity works but nothign else09:31
alinfor a reason I cannot connect the phone09:31
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alin_something funny happens with my usb connection I hope is not btoken09:47
sledgestry another cable09:47
alin_sledges: tried already09:48
alin_sledges: I hope is not the bloody connector09:48
alin_does any of you know what happen with the plasma guys... I remember sebas trying to build it on obs...09:49
tbrtheir recently announced os is based on ubuntu touch09:50
sledgesplfiorini ^^09:50
alin_tbr: yes but worst than expected... flashable from ubuntu only no mrom09:50
sledgesoh Pier hasn't been here since April09:50
alin_tbr: maybe they went after shekels09:51
tbrit shouldn't be that hard to add RPM packaging and put it on top of a Mer core09:52
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alin_ok something is funny I cannot ping the phone when in developer mode09:54
alin_sledges: with that last image britness seems to work09:57
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sledgeshi bouzou09:58
sledgesalin_: maybe nh1402 is up for testing it? ;09:58
sledgesor anyone else with nexus5 <- PSA (in case hilights used ;P)09:58
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alin_sledges: ok I see some very strange behaviour it activates deactivates sharing the network like mad10:08
dr_gogeta86hi guys10:10
alin_[ 1138.254359] android_work: sent uevent USB_STATE=DISCONNECTED10:10
alin_dmesg is full of these10:10
nh1402I would test, but the nexus 5 is my primary phone and could miss some calls.10:10
nh1402so don't want to risk it, till 6 ie. after working hours.10:11
sledgesalin_: internet sharing never worked, but's been quiet10:14
sledgesmaybe phdeswer could help?10:14
sledgesalin_: is it only happening with usb cable in?10:15
alin_sledges: what do you mean inet sharring never worked? worked...10:15
alin_sledges: from phone to computer10:15
alin_sledges: now I use developer mode anyhow10:15
sledgesalin_: wlan hotspot never worked10:15
alin_sledges: yes I know that I have never used it10:16
sledges13:08 < alin_> sledges: ok I see some very strange behaviour it activates deactivates sharing the network like mad10:16
sledgesso, you are talking about usb tethering?10:16
alin_sledges: yes.. forgot to say was the usb one10:16
alin_sledges: yes10:16
sledgesthen let's summon phdeswer :)10:16
alin_sledges: we need at least one more person to confirm10:18
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alin_sledges: he is not online
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bluesleealin, sledges: hi, i have not much time now but: a zypper dup early in rhe morning brought baxk sensors, no issue with YouTube, battery life seems to be better, all on 1.1.6*10:26
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alin_sledges: must be my connector10:29
alin_I will try to change it in the afternoon to see... let us hope I do not break somethign else10:29
alin_sensors seem to work proximity too I will try later10:31
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dr_gogeta86running lipstick with strace is such a pain11:04
dr_gogeta86invoker: Invoking execution: '/usr/bin/jolla-email'11:05
dr_gogeta86invoker: died: Received wrong ack (00000000)11:05
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alinsledges: ok was the connector11:12
alinsledges: changed it and all is fine11:12
alinspiiroin: lpotter brightness and proximity seem to work now11:13
alinunknown are the ways of sensors11:13
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Ford_Prefectsledges: 1.1.17?!11:35
sledgesFord_Prefect: of course11:36
Ford_Prefectmissed the announce, will try to get my hands on an n511:37
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sledgesFord_Prefect: it's dev preview11:38
sledgesno announce yet ;)11:38
sledgesas 1.1.7 is not officially out11:38
sledgesand we are looking at some regressions11:39
dr_gogeta86sometimes get stuck11:39
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Ford_PrefectUnlikely I'd figure out regressions since I didn't use 1.1.1611:39
sledgesoh ok ;)11:40
kimmolialin: pong11:52
dr_gogeta86hi kimmoli11:52
dr_gogeta86some peeps asked me  if there are other batch of tohkbd11:54
kimmolino. there is no other batch.11:55
sledgesdr_gogeta86: kimmoli: but there is this one: ;)11:59
dr_gogeta86sledges, i've got sometimes ion errors12:04
dr_gogeta86I've appliyed all known patch in order to launch apps on g52512:05
dr_gogeta86no way12:05
sledgeswhat was it that fixed ION errors, on oneplus one? vgrade ?12:06
dr_gogeta86look at that pastie12:07
sledgesdr_gogeta86: yes the same as oneplus lab notes:
sledgesdr_gogeta86: have you gone with mal- through QCOM_BSP bits?12:08
dr_gogeta86QCOM_BSP is on everywhere12:08
dr_gogeta86and recompiled12:08
dr_gogeta86copybit hwcomposer gralloc et all12:09
sledges12:44 < mal-> next project after building an image has to be finding out why latest libhybris fails with "ION_IOC_ALLOC failed with error - Operation not permitted"12:10
sledges12:45 < mal-> lipstick works but no programs can be started, I have some idea already what could be teh reason by looking at the diff12:10
sledgesdr_gogeta86: try a bit older libhybris12:10
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sledgesone version older12:10
dr_gogeta86sledges, you say before 5.1.1 ?12:12
mal-dr_gogeta86: just a moment, I will give you the revision to use12:13
mal-dr_gogeta86: try with this
mal-dr_gogeta86: set that revision as HEAD12:14
mal-no exactly the same error that I get but worth a try12:17
mal-remember to rebuild also qt5-qpa-hwcomposer-plugin12:18
mal-or is it necessary to build that after rebuilding libhybris12:18
mal-sledges: ^12:18
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sledgesmal-: only if api changes introduced12:21
sledgesotherwise should be run-time12:21
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alinkimmoli: did you sort out the thing with the key?12:25
dr_gogeta86sledges, mal- did it12:26
dr_gogeta86time to reboot12:26
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kimmolialin: ? key?12:44
dr_gogeta86mal-, after this i can launch contacs12:46
dr_gogeta86mal-, after this i can launch contacts12:46
mal-dr_gogeta86: do other apps work?12:47
mal-how about settings?12:47
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sledgesallen key12:47
dr_gogeta86calenedar is ok12:47
dr_gogeta86camera works ( sensors aren't connected )12:47
dr_gogeta86gallery is on12:48
dr_gogeta86note ok12:48
mal-dr_gogeta86: any errors in logs anymore?12:48
dr_gogeta86E/cutils-trace( 1755): Error opening trace file: No such file or directory (2)12:49
dr_gogeta86but is nothing12:49
mal-that's normal12:49
mal-sledges: maybe the new version libhybris doesn't like QCOM_BSP anymore?12:49
mal-I'll do some investigation into that this week12:50
dr_gogeta86no keyboard btw12:50
mal-dr_gogeta86: strange, anything in logs when it does not show?12:50
sledgesmal-: something -is- fishy:)12:52
dr_gogeta86i need to fix touchscreen12:53
dr_gogeta86is not precise at all12:53
mal-I've never heard of precision problems with touchscreen12:54
dr_gogeta86i always got it12:56
* sledges afks a bit12:56
dr_gogeta86bye sledges12:57
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alinmal-: is gpsinfo your app?12:59
mal-alin: no13:00
alinok... cause I wanted to add it in common and now fails to build13:04
alinstrangely in my extra builds13:04
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mal-alin: I included warehouse to my image so no need to get those from common13:44
alinmal-: you need an internet connection13:46
alinmal-: always I find that silly13:46
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mal-alin: you still need it for zyppering those from common anyway so I don't see the difference13:50
alinmal-: nope you do not you put it on image13:50
alinyou so not zypper in13:50
mal-ok, I only install the jolla/sailfish official apps on the image13:51
mal-plus warehouse13:51
alincertain apps to be honest need to be installed especially the ones we use for debug... you cannot say someone.. ok... I got the image it does not work... now start installing app x13:54
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mal-alin: true13:58
mal-I have many of the rpms on my sdcard :)13:58
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alinmal-: you see his is what  i try to avoi14:01
kimmolialin: gistpud/pastebin api key? no, have been on vacation...14:04
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alinmal-:  on the gps issue14:31
alinmal-: I noticed that if I get fast some sattelites in view no crash happens14:31
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mal-I'll go through the valgring output later to see if I can figure something out14:33
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alinmal-: I remember some list of sattelites being built... if you pass an empty one you call for trouble14:41
mal-I will look into that also14:45
mal-alin: but the callback should not be done if there are no satellites14:46
mal-unless there is some bug in the lower level code14:46
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alinmal-: I think we can use that Messwerk as test for sensors and gps14:53
alinthe unknown errors I traced to open("/system/etc/qmi_fw.conf", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)14:55
alinopen("/dev/smem_log", O_RDWR)           = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)14:55
alinthat is the second the first one open("/dev/smem_log", O_RDWR)           = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)14:56
alincrw------- 1 root root 10, 87 1970-05-26 00:19 /dev/smem_log14:56
alinstill segfaults but no more unknown errors14:58
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mal-alin: does it open any other .conf files?15:08
mal-alin: is there a file /system/etc/qmi_fw.conf15:11
mal-doesn't look like it's really needed15:12
alinmal-: it tries to open it15:15
alinbut does not manage since is not there... the errors come from the permission15:15
mal-the latter seems to be related to some logging15:16
alinmal-: yap... both errors come from the same issue not being able to write in that smem_log15:17
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mal-alin: did you try earlier to add debug output to the gps provider to see what function it calls last?15:28
alinmal-: for that a bt shall be enough15:29
alinbut the segfault is down somewhere15:29
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mal-alin: if the bt is showing anyting useful15:32
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alinmal-: I do not have access to inet on the phone now so I cannot install anything15:32
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AndChat|44849akin: I'm grabbing the zip now. I'll test and report back.17:13
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mad_fitteralin: I'm grabbing the zip now. I'll test and report back.17:15
mad_fitteralin: still flash over cm11? Anything extra I need to know or look out for?17:16
alinmad_fitter: depends of your skill17:17
alinmad_fitter: things I know as broken is youtube player17:18
alinmad_fitter: and gps mal- is debugging17:18
mad_fitterWell, I have nix on my laptop, and with direction can help debug anything else you might need help with.17:18
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alinsledges: tried a zypper dup in 1.1.6 no usb thethering after18:33
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bluesleealin: had issues with incoming call which i couldn't answer on 1.1.6, issue with YouTube on 1.1.7 reproduced18:41
bluesleealin: but battery life seems to be clearly better after a zypper dup on 1.1.6, need to monitor this18:42
bluesleealin: do you plan to deliver those new preinstalled apps with 1.1.7?18:42
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AntarticaHi. I'm here to report the first day with sfos on iyokan (Xperia Pro) :)18:52
Antarticamal-: works: calling, receiving a call, sending SMS, receiving SMS,  connecting to Wifi, sending and receiving messages using XMPP (prosody server), importing contacts from a vcf18:54
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Antarticamal-: I've had less luck with the camera; the first time it started ok showing image in the viwfinder, but the next time I opened it the viewfinder was black.with the screen in black. closing and reopening made it work again18:55
sledgesAntartica: \o/18:55
sledgesalin: wut?18:55
sledgesblueslee: have you tried incoming call on 1.1.7?18:56
* sledges goes back afk18:56
Antarticamal-: but I've not been able to make a photo (pressing the hardware camera button does nothing, and the shutter icon didn't work either). Don't know why.18:56
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bluesleesledges: not so far. in general it seems to work, so far 1 of 3 did not work18:58
bluesleesledges: without YouTube smartphone fun tends to zero, i will stay with 1.1.6;-)18:59
Antarticamal-: on the other hand, a process names "yes" was using almost all the CPU cycles (and depletes the battery!). I killed it a while ago and the phone started performing wuite well (before it was extremely slugish). But all the tests were done with that running, so I don't know if something breaks by killing that "yes" process.18:59
Antarticamal-: I recall that yes process cusing problems in CM11 (or it was in CM10?). But in CM it respawned...18:59
bluesleesledges: if i find more time i will check 1.1.7 in detail19:00
Antarticasledges: :)19:00
mal-Antartica: never heard of "yes" process19:00
Antarticamal-: the owner was "shell" (not nemo, not root)19:01
Antarticamal-: IIRC the father was PID 1, but I'm not sure now.19:02
mal-Antartica: no such process on my device19:02
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mal-Antartica: I have had sometimes problem that systemd takes a lot of cpu but that happens if I update some important background software19:03
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bluesleealin: what about the new preinstalled apps? sailorgram, mms log etc19:04
alinblueslee: I willtry to put them19:04
alinblueslee: zypper dup is a no go19:04
mal-Antartica: the camera button is not currently working (need a custom keyboard layout)19:04
alinyou can try cannot make things worst19:04
alinseems one cannot update credentials for google anymore after restore from backup19:05
alindo I do somethign wrong?19:05
mal-Antartica: shutter icon should work, have you tried changing resolution left-to-right swipe page19:06
Antarticamal-: The yes process is completely gone now. If I find it again I will look in /proc where it is from and what files it has open. I recall that it might be related to bluetooth in CM, but not sure about it. The problem is that the process has an unsearchable name (try googling for yes...)19:06
bluesleealin: it would make more sense to deliver essential apps, i dont know people using mms, telegram. what about an opensource filemanager or a game, something like that19:07
alinblueslee: there is apkenv19:07
alinblueslee: thereis not working file  browser I have in mind karip's but does not build19:07
alinblueslee: the fact that youdo not know people does not mean they donot exist19:08
Antarticamal-: This is different: trying to start cameraplus it said: failed to start camera try a different ... (I dont recall the end of the message). And the a "Image settings" pane apperas (Aspect ratio, resolution, etc)19:09
Antartica...and then...19:09
mal-Antartica: the description of "yes" is "Outputs an affirmative response repetitively."19:09
bluesleealin: that's correct. i heard of an Eskimo who .. :-)19:09
piggzany progress on cm12.1 porting? (mal :)19:09
mal-piggz: still waiting for 1.1.719:09
piggzmal-: will it be based on the non-monolithic build?19:11
Antarticamal-: so "yes" can be the result of some broken script in there?19:11
bluesleealin: no, for instance messwerk seems to make sense for me. with sailorgram you will might have discussions that it is not p2p, mms logger is for debugging purposes right?19:11
mal-Antartica: yes, I think so19:11
mal-piggz: I build modular now19:11
bluesleealin: tweetian, jolla together, cyanide19:12
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alinblueslee: there is a tweeter thereis a browser19:13
alinno idea what is cyanide19:13
Antarticamal-: ok. The complete message openen cameraplus "Failed to start camera. Please restart the application".19:13
mal-Antartica: and restarting does not help?19:14
bluesleealin: sysmon, gpsinfo, ytplayer, irc ..19:14
bluesleealin: dont know their licensing ..19:15
Antarticamal-: that is the message I get by restarting...19:15
alinblueslee: ytplayer covered by browser gpsinfo by messwerk19:15
bluesleealin: okay, no issue at all as i can remove preinstalled apps:-)19:16
Antarticamal-: restarting the app doesn't help. Do you want me to restart the phone and try then, freshly booted?19:17
mal-Antartica: somehow the camera has gotten into a faulty state19:17
mal-Antartica: that could help, but one possibility is that the config has some option that does not work19:17
bluesleealin: what issues we have with 1.1.7 so far?19:18
mal-try rebooting, if it does not help then I'll five further help19:18
Antarticamal-: ok19:19
bluesleealin: youtube crashing, thats it?19:19
alinblueslee: and brightness not being reliable19:20
alinspiiroin: ok looks like brightness is dead19:20
alinblueslee: and not being able to restore google accounts19:20
alinblueslee: but that image is not for share.. is just for people who want to test19:21
bluesleealin: okay, if you need someone to reproduce some issues drop me a note, i will switch and check it with 1.1.719:22
Antarticamal-: After restarting the phone, the camera works. Both the viewfinder and the shutter icon (I can make photos now).19:25
Antarticamal-: Ok, so that's all for today. Thanks again for the port and if I find something else, I'll report tomorrow :).19:27
mal-ok :)19:28
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alinlbt: ping19:33
alinlbt: what do I do stupid in this service
alinstrangely enough here doesnot fail
lbtthe spec file says you have  :          Source100:  harbour-gpsinfo.yaml19:36
lbtbut you don't :)19:37
lbtif you write a spec file manually you need to get it exactly right - the point of yaml is that it can be more easily validated and uses boilerplate for most of it19:39
alinlbt: yap but I donot get why in one worked in other not19:41
lbtloose validation in one project19:41
alinlbt: but seems that in my project pulls the yaml19:46
lbtno yaml:
alinlbt: i see he deleted the yaml19:48
alinlbt: but he like a numpty did not update the .spec19:48
lbtif you retrigger then I guess the first build will fail too19:48
alinlbt: yap19:48
alinlbt: thanks I should have noticed it myself...19:53
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shmerlIs it a known bug? Every time I reboot Nexus 5, Sailfish resets APN for my provider.19:58
shmerlI tried to disable "select network automatically" but that settings sets back to enabled after reboot. And the systems messes up the APN19:58
alinshmerl: i remember hearing this one19:59
alinshmerl: you may try to save the apn settings as a new one19:59
shmerlalin: You mean as new custom network?20:01
alinshmerl: yes20:02
shmerlHow can one do it?20:02
sledgesshmerl: alin: there's a bug found by Nokius_20:03
sledgeschown radio:radio /var/lib/ofono20:04
sledgesand see if helpz20:04
* sledges goes back into his cave20:04
shmerlLet me try20:04
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alinshmerl: don't20:05
alinshmerl: sorry20:05
alinsledges: don't20:05
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nh1402how's it going20:10
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alinnh1402: alsmost ok20:11
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alinanyone expert on qt .pro and translations installation?20:18
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Nokiusalin: did u build
shmerlsledges: It helped, thanks!20:19
alinNokius: yes some  almost ready version but still some issues20:19
shmerlIs it Nexus 5 installation bug or it's Sailfish global?20:19
alinlbt: why you donot want to add fortran to the default build?20:19
Nokiusalin: gstreamer was build local ?20:19
alinNokius: nope20:20
alinNokius: nothing local20:20
alinNokius: just dhd the reston obs20:20
alinsledges: why will the browser need this xulrunner-qt5-devel20:21
Nokiusalin: which repo did use so I can try a new build :) or is it n5 spesific obs builds? should go on after the baby steps and add the find5 repo20:21
nh1402alin: would you like me to test anything20:21
alinnh1402: yes20:22
alinnh1402: if you can determine when the brightness for proximity stops working20:22
shmerlShould I keep "select network automatically" as disabled too?20:22
nh1402alin: I don't quite get what you mean by that20:23
alinnh1402: once you install it in messwerk try to test proximity20:24
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alintryto dothat every 30min till the brightness doesnot woek aymore20:25
shmerlLooks like there is no need - I set it to "select automatically" and after reboot the APN is still OK.20:25
mal-shmerl: looks like a global bug, I also have root:root owner for /var/lib/ofono20:25
shmerlmal-: I see.20:25
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shmerl mal-: I wonder how it wasn't spotted earlier, sounds like a major usability issue.20:27
nh1402alin: any specific image you'd like me to test with?20:27
alinnh1402: thelast one20:27
shmerlBefore this fix I had to set APN after each boot.20:27
mal-shmerl: difficult to say, I don't even know what it wants to store in that folder20:27
nh1402alin: I don't think I have the last one20:28
alinnh1402: posted it in themorning20:28
mal-shmerl: ofono spec file has this "%dir %attr(775,radio,radio) /var/lib/ofono"20:32
shmerlmal-: So, supposedly it should set it to radio:radio explicitly? Then somehow it ends up as root:root later.20:36
mal-I might have an idea what is causingthe reason20:37
alinmal-: check who is owning the crap20:37
mal-alin: ?20:37
alinmal-: which rpm20:38
alinmal-: more than sure that caused the crap20:38
alinmal ofono-1.16+git3-1.25.1.armv7hl20:39
mal-alin: it's owned by ofono20:39
mal-and ofono package should set it up correctly, I'll test my idea20:41
alinmal-: the 0755 is correcly set20:41
alinmal-: not the rest20:41
mal-I was correct, I know the reason20:41
alinmal-: now tell us20:42
mal-during mic build the user or group radio is missing and thus it cannot set the correct owner, at least when I build the image it complains about many users or groups missing20:43
alinmal-: yap20:44
alinmal-: we shall run that then in post?20:45
mal-I haven't checked which user it complains about, does anyone have a mic build log available?20:46
mal-alin: do you think it will help, why would the user be available then if it wasn't earlier?20:47
mal-alin: I think we need to figure out why the user/group is missing in the first place and how to add those20:47
alinmal-: threis a group radio20:49
alinmal-: i suspect these they shall exist in sb220:50
shmerlI have another weird issue with IMAP on Nexus 5. On some accounts it doesn't check e-mail for long periods, even though it's peak hours and I set always up to date or 15 min.20:50
shmerlNot sure if it's Nx5 specific or not.20:51
mal-alin: but does it exists in mic build?20:52
mal-I don't know how that works20:52
alinlbt: sledges seems nobody can add an new account on gogole with 1.1.720:52
alinbroken ceritficates remembersme of the sdk issue20:57
sledgesshmerl, pls report results:
merbotNemo bug 841 in Hybris-ing "wrong owner of /var/lib/ofono" [Normal,New]21:00
sledgesalin: no idea about xul devel21:01
mal-sledges: any ideas how we could make the correct users and groups exist during image packaging with mic?21:04
stephgmal-: (haven't read the backlog) but that's a job for the ks, no? if the package isn't doing it right itself in the first place21:05
mal-stephg: but the package has the correct rights for the files/folders21:06
mal-stephg: sledges if I reinstall the ofono package on my device the owner is then correct21:06
alinJul 27 22:06:37 abbaton estart[5359]: [D] _accountUpdateFailed:127 - OAuthAccountSetupPage: account update failed: 9 sailfish_accounts-account-usic_nonexistent_credentials21:07
stephghm so what would be changing them21:07
mal-stephg: missing user/group during mic build21:07
sledgesmal-: the dreaded bug of packages not getting in in the same order as for jolla phone 8[21:08
mal-I have seen it complain about users or groups but didn't have any problems before (that I know of)21:08
sledgesduring mic21:08
sledgesbut we can't keep sailfish-specific users/groups in top level packages like mer-core21:08
sledgesnow they are in droid-hal-device21:08
sledgessuggestions welcome!:)21:09
sledgesSage: ^21:10
sledgesthe good old discussion is back the 3rd time ;)21:10
stephgsledges: are one or more package(s) affected? if it's not ofono it's something else?21:13
stephgmal-: iirc there's an rpm command to reset perms does that fix it instead of a re-install?21:14
* stephg goes off to find the nearest centos box to rtfm21:14
mal-stephg: there are several packages complaining about users/groups druing building21:14
stephgmal- ah so the ordering does impact multiple things. I wonder if there's a common cause (i.e. one package) or they're all treading upon each other21:15
* sledges afks21:18
sledgesa bit21:18
sledgesit would essentially be creating a package that ofono depends on, but we don't want to do that to packagin, as ofono.spec might be used not only in sailfish21:18
stephgmal-: you could *try* rpm --setperms <whatever> and  rpm --setugids <whatever> in the %post or later somehow in mic21:21
stephgbut that's only a kludge21:21
stephgI'd be curious to see whether that sorts it when run on a freshly-booted image21:22
shmerlsledges: OK21:23
mal-stephg: and that would be only for ofono, although the other errors don't seem to cause serious problems but it's difficult to say if there are some minor problems21:23
stephgrun it for every package that complains during the mic build?21:25
stephglike I say that's a workaround21:25
alini wonder if not data in roaming has the same issue21:25
alinstephg: wouldnot forcing them depending on setup.rpm sort the problem?21:26
nh1402alin: I'm going to assume you know sound is working again21:27
stephgwell if sledges said that this ofono may be upstream for others that won't work.21:28
* stephg goes off to rtfm to see if a package can be made aware of child deps rather than having ofono aware of a parent dep21:28
alinnh1402: yes21:31
nh1402alin: haven't gotten it to fail yet, even under the max 30,000 lux all the sensors are still working21:31
alinnh1402: yes was working all the time21:31
alinthen in the evening i tested again and wasnot21:31
shmerlbtw, where can I find SMTP logs? I have some weird issue with SMTP on Kolabnow account. It just always fails to send.21:34
shmerlBut there are no details on the error in that message.21:34
alinshmerl: does it work in android?21:34
shmerlIt works in my desktop client (Kmail).21:35
nh1402i'll let it sleep and check in 6 hours time21:35
shmerlalin: It doesn't say it's wrong password or anything like that. Just some non informative error message.21:37
nh1402I'm not sure if it's a bug or just not implemented but if I'm using Google Hangouts (formally known as Google Talk), if I send a message from outside the messages app then that same message isn't shown in the conversation in the messages app.21:38
nh1402kind of like how messages sent in my app don't then show up in other sms apps21:39
nh1402but this being with online IM rather than SMS messages21:39
alinnh1402: no idea but i suspect there isno option to sync with the archive21:44
alinnh1402: telepathy stuff21:44
alinnh1402: could yousetup a google account on yours?21:44
alinnh1402: I cannot resetup the oldones after restore from backup21:44
nh1402on the image I'm testing?21:45
sledgesstephg: mal-: what if we Requires: ofono in droid-hal-device? but iirc that had some other corner cases (like removing ofono would remove the whole system)21:46
nh1402well setting it up normally still works, haven't made a backup to test that yet21:49
sledgesstephg: mal-: ignore me, as ^ would actually mean ofono is pulled -before- dhd, is what we want to avoid in the first place :D21:51
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nh1402good night, I'll report back and give a rough estimate between the last time it was working and the time it stops, in the morning/early afternoon tomorrow21:57
alinnh1402: cool21:58
alinnh1402: night21:58
sledgesfriday's song competitor? (thanks faenil for the dig:))22:00
alinsledges: is Monday22:02
sledgesis it?22:02
sledgeswell, never too early to introduce a competitor;)22:02
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mad_fitteralin: Ok, all flashed and running. Recording times and bugs as we speak. I'll give you a list after, a while running it. A few bugs I've noticed right away.22:06
alinsledges: true22:07
mad_fitteralin: anything in particular you want me to look at?22:13
alinand gps22:15
alininstall gpsinfo zypper ref22:15
shmerlalin: so where can I actually see some smtp error logs?22:18
alinas root22:19
alinjournalctl -xlf22:19
alinto be honest i havenever managed to get smtp work with any manually configured account22:20
sledgesshmerl: that's sounds like generic sailfishos question22:20
sledgestry on #sailfishos and #jollamobile22:20
shmerlsledges: thanks. And where should this stuff be reported normally? was proposed by some, but it's somewhat awkward as a bug tracker, and at times it's not clear at all whether it's installation specific or a global bug.22:21
alinshmerl: this one is a general22:23
sledgesshmerl: read paragraph "Bug reports, if internet search refuses to help" in
sledgesshmerl: TJC is bug tracker, it's tracked internally in Jolla's internal bugzilla22:25
sledgesbut it's aimed at mass public22:25
sledgeswhere you easily find accepted answer on top etc22:25
shmerlsledges: it is used as a bug tracker, but it's not really functionally a good bug tracker.22:25
sledgesi know, but that's the situation22:25
sledgesyou lose some you gain some22:26
shmerlJust my preference of course, but I'd like to see some global bug tracker for Sailfish, where you can create a bug without knowing whether it's global, hardware specific or whatever. And then if anyone knows, it can be assigned to specific area there. It's way more efficient than comments like "it should go to TJC" in the mer bug/nemo tracker, or the other way around.22:27
sledgesshmerl: sailfish is built on top of mer and nemo22:28
sledgesmer is hardware independent22:28
sledgesnemo hosts hardware adaptations22:28
sledgeseach has bug tracker22:28
sledgesbecause mer is ultimate upstream22:28
sledgesand sailfish bugs are in mer and nemo bugs22:28
shmerlThe split however is more virtual than it was intended to be. Because there aren't many users of Mer in practice.22:28
sledgesdifferent bugzillas, different bug fields22:28
shmerlMaking it split for the abstract idea isn't very useful IMHO22:28
sledgesthen it becomes unscalable22:29
shmerlIf you expect a flood of Mer downstreams - I agree.22:29
sledgesbad is the soldier who doesn't want to become a general22:30
sledgesnemomobile glacier ux is mer's downstream, the only mobile ux project where design is influenced by community22:31
sledgeshawaii project is also mer based22:31
shmerlPlasma Mobile decided not to use Mer for some reason.22:32
shmerlEven though Plasma Active did.22:33
alinshmerl: shekels... i suspect22:33
shmerlAnyway, current set up with Mer, Nemo and Sailfish split into different bug trackers makes reporting stuff quite messy.22:33
sledgesalso ispirata's hemera is mer based22:33
shmerlI understand the reasoning, but I think it's a premature optimization ;)22:34
sledgesyea, let's neglect all existing ones and retreat into sfos bz22:34
shmerlIt can be collective one. Let's say Mozilla has one huge bug tracker. For a lot of stuff.22:35
sledgesbabysteps: let's finalise nemo->mer merge, we'll think about how to reduce fragmentation next22:35
sledgeslbt: how's that proceeding btw?22:36
shmerlBtw, is there any workaround for battery drain bug in Nexus 5 alpha 12?22:37
shmerlIt makes charging necessary several times a day.22:38
sledgesblueslee said battery improved after zypper dup22:39
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shmerlIs it risky? or it should upgrade OK?22:41
alinshmerl: risky... i was without usb tethering22:42
alinshmerl: but allthe rest worked22:42
shmerlHm. So it's zypper ref && zypper up && zypper dup ?22:43
alinshmerl: zypper ref -f22:44
alinzypper dup22:44
shmerlalin: Thanks22:46
shmerlHm. I attempts to remove and downgrade some packages too. Is it normal?22:49
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sledgesshmerl: paste?22:50
shmerlremove: hybris-libsensorfw-qt5-configs22:50
sledgesthat's fine22:51
shmerldowngrade: long list. Do you want me to copy it?22:51
sledgesyes pls22:51
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shmerlIs it expected?23:00
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sledgesshmerl: yes for everything except gstreamer23:04
shmerlWhy in general does it try to downgrade stuff?23:04
sledgesbecause we just cleaned up :common repo23:05
sledgesso it takes builds from jolla release23:06
sledgesidentical versions23:06
shmerlI see23:06
sledgesjust less times built23:06
sledgesgo ahead for gst as well, but you might lose youtube playback ability23:06
sledgescan you run first23:06
sledgeszypper se -s gstreamer1.0-droid ?23:06
sledgesjust to see23:06
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shmerlOK, it's 0.20150709.1-10.10.1.jolla in adaptation0, dhd, mw and it's 1.0.0+master.20150513213822.4b3c583-10.6.2.jolla in System Packages.23:11
sledgesshmerl: before you dup23:13
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sledgescould you check if youtube videos work for you?23:14
shmerlIn the browser?23:14
alinshmerl: y23:14
shmerlYep, they work.23:15
sledgesnow perform the whole zypper dup23:15
sledgesand recheck (after reboot)23:16
alinsledges: theproximiysensorworks23:16
alinseems is dark in my room23:16
sledgesalin: you've got enlightenment23:16
alinsledges: seems so23:17
shmerlsledges: rebooting. Btw, will updates to next alphas / beta work through zypper or they'll require reflashing? There is a bug for no OTA updates, but it's not clear whether it's from the UI or in general.23:21
alinshmerl: may restartfew times23:22
alinshmerl: so be prepared23:22
alinof course may totally fail23:22
shmerlalin: you mean it may restart on its own?23:22
alinshmerl: yes23:22
shmerlso far looks OK23:22
sledgesshmerl: OTA is in early stages, especially will be difficult from 1.1.6 to 1.1.7 due to gcc bump23:23
shmerlDidn't restart so far23:23
sledgesbut afterwards we could intensify OTA testings23:23
shmerlyoutube is working,23:23
sledges(e.g. there will always be adaptation0 repo that needs to be re-adjusted after manual OTA)23:23
sledgesshmerl: good news23:24
sledgeslet's see battery life then23:24
sledgesalin: means it's not the gst-droid ver that broke yt vids on 1.1.723:24
shmerlsledges: I'll pay attention and will comment in the bug about it:
merbotNemo bug 837 in Hybris-ing "[hammerhead][alpha12] Bad battery life" [Major,New]23:24
alinsledges: good...23:25
alinI will sleep now23:25
alinseee you later23:25
shmerlalin: night23:25
shmerlI'll be going too. See you.23:29
sledgesshmerl: thanks!23:30
* sledges sleeps off too23:30
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