Monday, 2015-08-10

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ahoneybunohhhhh beidl00:47
beidlahoneybun: o/00:47
ahoneybunI have the OPO and so looking forward to a port00:48
beidlmy plan is to get the radio issues sorted. I just hope I'll finish it before my vacation ends :D00:49
ahoneybunthat would be awesome00:50
ahoneybunI have it on the N4 but it is a bit slow comparted to the OPO00:51
ahoneybunand just better in genereal :)00:51
ahoneybunonce you have it working decent with radio/sms/data I'm moving lol00:51
beidlnow that's a motivation haha00:52
ahoneybunmoney would be more of a motivation really lol00:52
ahoneybunalso if it does not have the 4 app bug that the N4 has00:53
ahoneybunand working YouTube lol00:53
ahoneybunsorry for all the demands lo00:53
beidlone thing after the other, just let me finish the first-boot tutorial first :D00:54
ahoneybunXD00:54
ahoneybunof courses00:54
ahoneybunone step at a time00:54
ahoneybunbeidl: you should talk to mariogrip since he is working on the Ubuntu Touch port00:56
beidlyeah I might do that, have to get some input from others about their progress00:59
ahoneybunhe said he was really close with geting the radio to work in his post today01:00
beidlahoneybun: which post?01:01
ahoneybunhttps://forums.oneplus.net/threads/wip-ubuntu-touch-for-oneplus-one.266170/page-77#post-1238365501:01
beidlinteresting indeed01:02
ahoneybunyeo01:03
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Din21Hello03:18
Din21can sailfish os be ported to moto g2 ?03:18
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tathhuLol, that was fast :(03:20
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locusfmorning05:20
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sledgesbeidl: zypper in jolla-settings-layout06:26
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kimmolihttps://together.jolla.com/question/103729/official-please-provide-shipment-feedback/?answer=104022#post-id-10402206:39
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dr_gogeta86good moring07:36
dr_gogeta86good morning07:36
stephgit's MONDAY! \o/07:38
stephgoh wait, I mean o¬07:38
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sledges¬ looks like a door handle07:40
stephgthat can also similarly be used to bludgeon my head with ;)07:41
sledgesdoor handle is the most dangerous idiomatic firearm in .lt07:43
stephgha!07:44
dr_gogeta86sledges, but mono for sailfish is stalled by xamarin ?07:45
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sledgeshttp://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-2-international-giveaway-632394/09:22
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beidlmahlzeit!09:33
beidlthanks sledges, I'll try to build a new image (no connection whatsoever on the device)09:34
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sledgesbeidl: hm get connected from http://bit.ly/port-dev-faq ?09:50
sledgesbeidl: or just chuck rpm in09:50
beidlsledges: no no, usb does work, I meant wifi and radio ^^09:51
beidlnew image build anyways, lets see09:51
sledgesaok:)09:51
beidlhad to replace the wifi adapter in my dell laptop first, finally the connection to my quassel server doesn't drop anymore :D09:51
sledgesnice:)09:52
beidlcut both my forefingers in the process of removing the aluminium plate so I might not be able to respond as fast haha09:53
nh1402morning10:05
sledgesbeidl: holy! hope it wasn't an "off" case10:05
sledgesand just one off x)10:06
* sledges hides10:06
sledgeshey nh1402 !10:06
beidlsledges: haha nah don't worry10:06
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alinspiiroin: sledges any progress on the frozen screen10:26
sledgesalin: did you reproduce it?10:28
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vgrade_wbeidl: \o10:30
beidlhey vgrade_w10:30
vgrade_whttps://github.com/yacuken?tab=repositories10:31
beidlhow're you doing?10:31
sledgesvgrade_w: o/ i think you could push-start beidl to make wlan working, as you already had10:31
vgrade_wour WIP for 1+10:31
vgrade_wvery busy with day job10:31
alinsledges: yes... thought I said so on Friday before I went10:31
sledgestell me about it:)10:31
sledgesalin: i forget things, could you update the bug?10:31
alinsledges: I did10:31
beidlthanks very much!10:31
sledgesalin: thanks, read10:32
vgrade_wbeidl: sledges wlan needs modulerising and script to load,10:34
vgrade_whttps://github.com/yacuken/droid-hal-device/blob/hybris-11.0-bacon/device-oneplus-bacon-configs/usr/lib/modules-load.d/droid-hal-bacon.conf10:34
beidlso things not working for me right now (for which I'll definitely go through that repo): wifi, gst (playback+video), pulseaudio10:34
vgrade_whttps://github.com/yacuken/droid-hal-device/blob/hybris-11.0-bacon/device-oneplus-bacon-configs/usr/bin/droid/droid-wlan-up.sh10:35
mal-lpotter: ping10:35
vgrade_wbeidl: we had all that working, those repos will help10:35
beidlawesome, I'll try those changes asap10:35
vgrade_wyacuken also had camera10:35
lpottermal-: pong10:36
beidlvgrade_w: I assume it has something to do with QCOM_BSP10:36
mal-lpotter: I have a problem with orientation sensor on my port10:36
lpotterhmmm ok10:37
vgrade_wbeidl: good luck with radio.  We can make one call which rings other party but dialer does not respond correctly10:37
mal-lpotter: my device reports two compass devices and sensorfw selects the wrong one10:37
vgrade_wbeidl: gtg, sorry10:37
mal-lpotter: one it the raw unscaled values and the other the correct one10:37
mal-*is10:37
beidlwhich sounds like an issue with states10:37
beidlvgrade_w: again, thank you very much10:37
vgrade_wbeidl: no problem, good to see someone picking this up as I'm too busy atm10:38
beidlI have 6 days left until my vacation ends so I better hurry up lol10:39
vgrade_wbeidl: also try to get in touch with mariogrip (ubuntu touch) he has been working radio10:40
beidlI will :)10:41
mal-lpotter: this is the output from test_sensors showing the two reported compasses http://pastebin.com/s9V1stgi10:41
lpotterhmm10:42
lpotterwhat device is this?10:42
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vgrade_wttfn10:42
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mal-lpotter: sony ericsson xperia pro, iyokan10:42
mal-lpotter: I would assume that problem might be present also in other sony devices if they have the same sensor and use DASH sensors code10:43
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mal-lpotter: currently I have hacked around the problem by ignoring the second sensor, currently sensorfw selects always the latter sensor10:45
lpottermal-: could you start a bug at https://bugs.merproject.org for sensorfw please?10:45
mal-lpotter: sure10:45
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mal-lpotter: https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122310:59
merbotMer bug 1223 in sensorfw "Wrong sensor selected when multiple sensors of same type are reported" [Task,New]10:59
lpotterthanks10:59
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mal-lpotter: this is my current fix for the problem, it work on my device and should work for all "normal" devices, http://pastebin.com/VtZ6w4mM11:18
zGrr moin :)11:18
mal-lpotter: oops, that patch is missing one empty line at the end11:42
beidlmal-: just looking at that diff and without having any idea of context or the rest of the source, but shouldn't that be a map instead of a list?11:44
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beidloh sry, it is11:46
mal-beidl: that patch works11:49
mal-looks like pastebin removed the empty line by itself11:49
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alinsledges: nh1402 can you try wireless charging on 1.1.6(7)12:36
nh1402I'm afraid i dont have access to a wireless charger12:38
sledgesneither do I12:43
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crevetorHi12:56
crevetorI was wondering if anyone was working on a port to the meizu mx4 ?12:56
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Mister_Magisterhi everyone12:59
beidlcrevetor: I got myself an MX4 for exactly that reason but the locked down bootloader made it impossible to work on a SFOS port12:59
Mister_MagisterWhy i cant use store on sailfsih port's?12:59
mal-Mister_Magister: which device?13:00
Mister_Magistern7 2nd gen but i thing on all device13:00
Mister_Magisterthinki*13:01
Mister_Magisterbut  I thought on all device*13:01
mal-Mister_Magister: store is currently available for some devices, it can be enable to new devices when it's proven that they have the correct IMEI code visible13:02
Mister_Magisterok thanks13:02
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mal-Mister_Magister: you can check your if your device is working correctly using the instructions here http://piratepad.net/port-hot13:03
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Mister_Magisteri have flo so without gsm module13:03
Mister_Magisterif gsm is need for imei13:04
mal-ah, ok, then it should report mac address instead I think13:04
Mister_Magisteryes i look on the site and mac should be13:05
mal-does ssu s report it?13:05
Mister_Magisterso when i use instructions on this page i will be able to use store?13:05
Mister_Magisterwait13:07
mal-Mister_Magister: those are just to verify it works correctly, if it does then you can tell sledges about it13:08
Mister_Magisterok i dont understand this at all but ok13:08
crevetorbeidl: I thought the bootloader was unlocked :(13:09
beidlcrevetor: maybe someone managed to hack the bootloader in the meantime but last time I checked it was still locked13:10
beidland I doubt that meizu would unlock it13:10
crevetorbeidl: do you have the ubuntu edition ?13:10
sledgesbeidl: crevetor: #jollamobile.log:20:58 < locusf> faenil said the european ones are unlocked13:10
beidlI even contacted them by mail and tried to discuss it with them13:10
beidlthe european ones can flash any type of regional ROM but I'm pretty sure that signature checking is still enabled13:11
beidland that the recovery is not replacable from within their locked fastboot implementation13:12
Mister_Magistermal-: ssu s dont report imei13:15
mal-Mister_Magister: does it have any Device UID13:16
Mister_Magisteryes13:16
Mister_Magisterso?13:18
mal-if that is unique then it can be enabled, you'll need to ask someone else who has the same device13:19
Mister_Magisterthe same device with sailfish or without?13:20
mal-with sailfish13:21
mal-maybe someone here has one13:21
crevetorThis seems encouraging : http://askubuntu.com/questions/645652/how-to-flash-meizu-mx4-ubuntu-edition-with-another-channel13:23
Mister_MagisterI doubt someone here have flo on sailfsih :/13:25
sledgesMister_Magister: ask on build thread13:26
sledgesof google+13:26
Mister_Magisterthis thread is old :v13:26
sledgeslast comment two weeks old13:26
sledgeseveryone who tried will receive your comment13:27
sledgestathhu: ^13:27
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faenilbeidl_: are you talking about the ubuntu edition?13:44
beidl_faenil: nope, the standard one13:44
alinbeidl_: I have the meizu and is unlocked13:44
faenilbeidl_: ok13:44
faenilthe ubuntu edition should be unlocked, afaict13:45
alinbeidl_: the ubuntu one...13:45
beidl_nice to hear that actually, seems that I was half a year too early with my purchase :P13:45
alinbeidl_: if you are curious I think I can find someone to sell you one13:45
beidl_alin: I actually am intrigued but I'm not sure, the 16GB storage are a big downgrade compared to the o+o13:46
alinbeidl_: the hw is ok...  but I think stops there... the linux core is newer than in sos13:47
alinbeidl_: but the ui is an atrocity except the window presenting13:47
beidl_alin: kernel 3.10 right?13:47
alinbeidl_: I do not remember but I can charge and boot mine13:48
beidl_damn, a smartphone with such a "new" kernel would be really nice though13:48
alinbeidl_: since they use the android the kernel's must match13:49
alinbeidl_: Linux ubuntu-phablet 3.10.35+ #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jul 9 04:59:28 UTC 2015 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux13:49
alinsledges: on you aosp n5 which kernel do you have?13:50
beidl_I've got to say I'm a little jealous13:50
alinbeidl_: do not be... anything more than one scope hits it13:50
alinbeidl_: and if you do not have internet is almost useless13:51
alinbeidl_: not to say about not having gtalk... or some other jabber client13:51
sledgesalin: 3.4 https://github.com/sledges/msm/tree/hybris-aosp-5.1.0_r5/13:51
crevetoralin: yeah but imagine if it ran sailfishos ;)13:51
beidl_does ubuntu touch still refresh scopes for every tiny reason?13:51
alinsledges: ok... this I do not know any reason why we cannot have a more recent kernel?13:53
alinsledges: I mean man power or technical issues13:53
sledgesalin: it was quickly put together "find last known compiling kernel", so feel free to bash through most recent kernels compile issues just like carepack has been doing for mako  https://source.android.com/source/building-kernels.html13:54
beidl_is it possible that gst-* packages need to be built with QCOM_BSP as well?13:58
tathhusledges: as I got deb (lte and stuff) store should work? :P (if wifi/data would work lol)13:59
tathhuGotta send my n7 to repair again so lol, yol13:59
sledgesbeidl_: which line of faq are you referring to? gst-droid is needed every time13:59
sledgestathhu: does lte work on the first place? and what does ssu s return?14:00
sledgestathhu: lol how many device have been breaking around you? :}14:00
sledges*devices14:00
tathhusledges: too many :P14:00
tathhutwo jollas and a nexus :(14:00
sledgestathhu: are you radioactive? :)14:00
tathhuAand I don't know, I haven't ran sfos on nexus for a while :P14:00
sledgesprobably that's why it broke -- it was missing the sfos :D14:01
tathhu:--D14:01
alinsledges: nh1402 does any of you have a wireless charger for n5?14:02
sledgesalin: we both said no14:02
sledges:/14:02
alinsledges: blimey I missed it14:02
sledgesaha:)14:02
beidl_sledges: now I see that there is a FAQ section for gst. I was still doing everything from remembering how things were one year ago haha14:03
sledgesbeidl_;)14:04
alinsledges: on the kernel... so practically we have 3.4 cause the manifest is pulling that one14:06
alinsledges: and because nobody bothered to try higher14:06
sledgesnobody had time14:06
alinsledges: good14:09
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crevetorWhy does porting need a working cyanogen mod for the device exactly ?14:16
sledgescrevetor: not all devices have aosp trees14:17
sledgesbut it's already possible to use aosp (from lollipop onward), if device manufacturer has them open14:17
crevetorsledges: I'm talking about mx4 ubuntu edition. I have the android parts that they use, shouldn't that be enough to get sailfishos to work ?14:18
sledgescrevetor: show me the source code:D14:18
crevetorhum I was talking binaries here. But maybe I can find them.14:19
alincrevetor: sledges the source code exists14:19
alincrevetor: sledges there is a github somewhere if I can dig it14:19
sledgesstart building hybris-hal against that checkout then14:19
alinsledges: crevetor https://github.com/meizuosc/m7514:20
sledgesalin: i mean, android source14:20
crevetorsledges: I guess I should look at hybris-hal source code14:22
alinsledges: I remember was a catch14:22
alincrevetor: you will not since their android source is not open14:23
crevetoralin: Ok, I thought we only needed the libraries not the source code.14:26
sledgesalin: you need a reference android source, if ubuntu touch was built on top of let's say aosp4.4.2, you need to checkout the available aosp tree (and match the tag as close as possible) from either googlesource or caf, and then add hybris patches. since UT is using libhybris, most probably you'll be duplicating your work (but we don't have UT android sources opened), but still 10% of it will be needed to bootsfos - yet you won't know wh14:29
sledgescrevetor: ^14:29
sledges... - yet you won't know which 10%14:30
sledgesand also match the architecture and platform ofc14:30
crevetorI have the build.prop for ubuntu touch, that should help right ?14:31
sledgesyes14:31
alincrevetor: sledges http://www.alphr.com/mobile-phones/1001197/meizu-mx4-ubuntu-edition-review-second-ubuntu-phone-has-much-improved-hardware and I can swear I did not speak with the guy14:32
alincrevetor: in theory all needed shall be in here /var/lib/lxc/android/rootfs/14:33
alincrevetor: I mean needed info... but as sledges said... you have just the binary blobs... so knowing what they used is not a simple or guaranteed success job14:33
crevetorThat's what I'm looking at right now14:33
crevetorI'm going to have to understand mor about the build process of a sailfish image.14:35
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alincrevetor: android sources with libhybris must be built (reason to be able to access blobs about hw) once that is done is almost a sail in the park14:38
minimecalin: By chance I saw the message you made two hours ago about wireless charging...14:39
alincrevetor: joking... but once you have that you can start thinking14:39
minimecalin: I was able to test the N5 running Sailfish OS alpha12 (on Multirom) with a Samsung 'Wireless Charging Pad': It works!14:39
alinminimec: good...14:39
alinminimec: that is a good one... cause mine with the test image for 1.1.7 does not...14:40
alinminimec: and before I blame the charger I want to eliminate all14:40
minimecalin: ... while the girl in the store told me, that it would never work because that wireless pad only works with the samsung S6... ;)14:40
alinminimec: merdre... if they would have not been so cheap... i would have built one by myself14:41
alinminimec: I will try the tooth brush one tonight when home14:41
minimecalin: Lik to the pad: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EP-PG920IBUGUS14:41
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alinminimec: i have one identical looking without any samsung logo... I do not like the fonts... and paid 10 times less14:42
alinminimec: I will boot this merdre in cyanogen to see14:43
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minimecalin: I would like to have one of the original LG Nexus ones, but you don't get them anymore...14:43
alinminimec: I almost bought it... till I checked the insided and bought a chinese one...14:44
lardmanfwiw I have a little round Qumox one that cost ~£10 which works with Nexus 4 and 514:46
lardmanunder Android at least14:46
sledgesalin: charging should be kernel driven14:47
alinsledges: maybe my charger is focked... seems not to work in android either..14:47
alinsledges: I have also had to change he usb port board... so can be a lot of things wrong14:48
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alin!seen tassadar15:15
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ahoneybunbeidl_: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/sailfish-os-for-oneplus-one.279537/page-69#post-1239277716:06
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Mister_Magisterdo somebody have flo (nexus 7 2nd gen without lte) with sailfish?17:27
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SkyFallHello.17:30
Mister_Magisterhi17:31
sledgeshi SkyFall17:31
sledges!seen vrutkovs17:34
merbotsledges: vrutkovs was last seen in #sailfishos-porters 5 weeks, 3 days, 2 hours, 27 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <vrutkovs> technically its possible on jolla too17:34
Mister_Magisterdo sailfish support dualsim?17:40
sledgesnot at the moment17:42
sledgesit needs a nice Finnish minimalist UI for that;)17:43
Mister_Magisterbecause i will try with SkyFall port sailfish to the dualsim device (moto g 2) and it have 2 imei. That is not a problem?17:44
sledgesi never had dual sim phone, so don't know what ui/behaviour changes are needed17:45
sledgeswelcome aboard SkyFall :)17:45
SkyFallsledges Thanks mate, I were here previously wanting to port to Z2, but my Debian installation got wrecked after meeting clang++ from AOSP build process xD17:46
sledgeslol!17:47
sledgesit shouldn't have :)17:47
SkyFallMister_Magister I told you to write them on a sheet of paper and compare them after installation of SFOS if we can get RIL to work17:47
sledgesotherwise sounds like some mortal kombat scene:))17:47
Mister_Magisternope i have to compare with other device idiot xD17:48
SkyFallsledges, It's magic of old athlon. I awoke early in the morning and I found out my CPU frozen xD17:48
SkyFallMister_Magister So find someone with moto g 2 ;_;17:48
sledgesand that sounded like a Tolkien book :D17:48
Mister_Magistersledges: tell SkyFall how i have to confirm unique uid :v17:48
sledgesSkyFall: http://piratepad.net/port-hot17:48
SkyFallDon't you have to compare IMEIs to make sure RIL is working?17:49
Mister_Magisterhe think i have to compare imei before and after installation17:49
sledgesSkyFall: flo is wifi only for Mister_Magister17:52
sledgesfor single-sim - no problem17:52
SkyFallI'm talking about his motorola17:52
sledgesfor dual-sim - we have not had such port yet17:53
sledgesjolla store is last thing you have to worry about17:53
sledgesif dual sim will be a problem for uniqueness initially, you'll use warehouse app from openrepos for apps17:53
sledgesjust like everyone here for last year until recently:)17:53
sledgesMister_Magister: you knew about warehouse, right?17:53
Mister_Magistersledges you was helping me install it17:54
sledgeslol ok17:54
Mister_Magisterbut in warehouse is only few apps17:56
sledgesfew? it has whatsup, pebble and many more17:56
sledgesby the time your port is ready, we should have solved dual sim UID issue for you ;)17:56
Mister_Magisterthanks <317:57
SkyFallBTW did someone port Android wear integration over to jolla? Asking from curiousity. I know Pebble is ported already, but dunno about Android wear17:57
sledgesMister_Magister: just pinged jolla store sailors internally on their thoughs about UID ;)17:57
sledgespebble is ported!?17:58
sledgesto jolla!?17:58
Mister_Magistersledges: also sailfish is stupuid. I run every app i have on my flo and i cannot get more ram usage than 50% :v17:58
SkyFallHeard that it works17:58
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sledgesSkyFall: ah i thought you are asking about lg g watch running sailfish itself as a port :D17:58
sledgesSkyFall: i see you mean the pebble app, yes it is working17:58
sledgesi need to find time to make pebble time work (sic)17:58
sledgesonly incoming calls work there atm..17:58
sledgesno idea about android wear integration17:59
SkyFallWell, some freak made it work with closed thing called <you know, won't mention it>17:59
SkyFallOnly calls as well17:59
sledgesif you are about pebble app - it's opensource18:00
alinsledges: if you wait a little all this wearable merdre will go.. and you will have to do nothing18:00
alinsledges: now robots are in fashion18:00
SkyFallI was thinking about iOS + Android wear, don't beat me for mentioning closed shit ><18:00
sledgesalin: my girlfriend won't wait :P18:00
alinsledges: get her other toy and she will forget about pebble18:01
sledgesi won't :P18:01
alinsledges: there are some old fashioned mechanical stuff there...18:01
alinsledges: check the swiss18:01
sledgesshe already has cookoo watch18:02
sledges:P18:02
sledgesmechanical ;)18:02
sledgespartially18:02
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alinsledges: something like this I had in mind http://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/GB/en/collections/new#55click=megamenu18:03
sledgesalin: this says swiss ;D http://hackedgadgets.com/wp-content/2/_mechanical_digital_watch_1.JPG18:06
sledgeshmmm http://cdn.itechnews.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/4N-MVT01-mechanical-Watch-Shows-you-Digital-Time.jpg18:06
alinsledges: https://kairoswatches.com/tbands/tband-awatch/18:08
sledgeshehe18:09
alinsledges: this is the cheapest https://kairoswatches.com/watches/msw_dot_matrix/chrome/18:10
alinsledges: with bitcoins cheaper than a phone18:10
sledgesminimum:D18:10
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alinsledges: anyhow that is the toy18:13
sledgesport nemo to the wristband?:D18:14
alinsledges: I do not know...18:15
alinsledges: is 200 the cheapest18:16
sledgesalin: anyway, robots are coming as you said https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCwBkNgPZFQ18:17
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Mister_Magisterinternet connection problems :v19:02
alinsledges: and cheaper too https://www.pololu.com/product/97519:05
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mal-looks like droidmedia needs some modifications for cm12.119:44
SkyFallIMO Google wrecked up lollipop >~>19:44
SkyFallLooking forward fixing their issues in M19:45
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nh1402has anyone tried running Visual Studio Code in Wayland?19:57
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Nokiussledges: no new build before the end of the month :( no time atm21:00
SkyFallsledges Do I need to create Ubuntu chroot in order to build? Don't want to get Ubuntu on this disk.21:02
NokiusSkyFall: u need the chroot to build the Android parts21:03
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SkyFallNot possible at all on debian testing or arch?21:03
sledgesNokius: not much use if you report such things to me ;) i'd suggest you to say that on your sailfish build thread, with welcome message to any other people who would maybe then like to co-maintain the port with you, seeing as you get busy with things21:05
NokiusSkyFall: the chroot has all the needed parts like java21:05
sledges^ yes, the correct version of java, and pre-installed packages21:06
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Nokiussledges: yes I told u that I will do it but the weekend was gone so fast ... and the week is short then off for a few days21:06
sledgesNokius: still, no sense to report things to me ;)21:07
SkyFallIf I wanted to build this without chroot I would have to grab manifest of chroot and install all on my own, am I right?21:07
Nokius:)21:07
sledgesNokius: i'm still thinking about "Active porter" column on adaptation table ;)21:07
sledgesthrough where you could let anyone know such things21:08
Nokiussledges: btw. any news from ofono sailor?21:08
sledgesSkyFall: just get the same java version, but we release chroot in order not to support every possible distro, so you're on your own ;)21:09
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sledgesNokius: re-pinged the sailor21:10
Nokiussledges: thanks21:10
sledgessure:)21:10
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Nokiusoppo forum still death :(21:15
* Nokius will get some sleep cu \o21:16
sledgescrumbs21:18
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Mister_MagisterSailfish support stereo speakers?21:19
sledgesMister_Magister: ofc, plug your earphones:)21:20
Mister_MagisterNo earphones. Speakers21:20
sledgesMister_Magister: bluetooth?21:21
Mister_MagisterInbuilt21:22
sledgeshow can in-built stereo speakers be far enough apart from each other on a phone?21:22
sledgesto actually make sense21:22
SkyFallHush, To that chroot... sledges, I just don't like Ubuntu and Canonical Ltd. Mister_Magister may confrim that xD21:23
sledgeswe chose ubuntu chroot because it's most widely adopted desktop/server distribution among users of different backgrounds - what porting guide is aimed at21:26
Mister_MagisterUbuntu gives him ebola21:26
sledgeshttp://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major21:26
SkyFallMister_Magister exactly ;_;21:26
sledgesmudslinging is not welcomed on this channel21:27
Mister_MagisterSledges so sailfish support stereo in inbuilt speakers or not?21:27
sledgesMister_Magister: ask jusa_ , if not, don't see a big issue to fix21:27
Mister_MagisterXD yes haha :D i asking because flo have 5.1 speakers and Moto g2 have stereo speakers21:28
Mister_MagisterBut sound on n7 is bugged so i cannot confirm21:29
SkyFallYou sick bastard, how is dolby surround even possible with inbuilt speakers? D:21:29
nh1402well my laptop supposedly comes with dolby sound21:30
nh1402"Dolby Advanced Audio"21:30
nh1402whatever that means21:31
Mister_MagisterSkyFall what do you mean?21:31
SkyFallDolby Surround = 5.1(5 speakers + subwoofer)21:32
Mister_MagisterIs possible21:33
Mister_MagisterSorry flo have stereo too xD21:43
sledgesmakes sense on a tablet21:48
nh1402no chance the terrible speakers on my laptop have 5 speakers and a subwoofer21:48
Mister_MagisterMake the same sense on tablet and phone21:49
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sledgesnh1402: even on my oldie jvc boombox there was Dolby-B digital feature :) http://classicboombox.com/jvc-pc-r11c21:52
sledgesyet, no "surround" i believe means no 5.121:52
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sledgesMister_Magister: you're right! http://www.phonearena.com/news/Best-phones-with-front-stereo-speakers-2015-edition_id6931122:06
sledgesyet personally i could never bear a sound quality coming out from a tiny pair of speakers, hopefully future sees some progress there22:07
SkyFallDolby Digital Audio = some Integrated Circuits taken out of sound blaster cards to improve sound xD22:11
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* stephg remembers the happy days *sigh*22:11
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SkyFallWhere did old days go ;-; I'm not lucky that I were born in 1999 and didn't taste years of Commodore, amiga and other retro things ><22:26
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mal-first complete image based on cm-12.1 built, tomorrow I'll see if it works or not23:19
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lpotterahh ya, th eold days of having to recompile linux kernel because the distro didnt ship with your soundcard. and then having to manually configure it to actually work...23:27
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