Thursday, 2015-08-20

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mannticlerOn my nexus 4, mms isn't working. and I don't see mms in the port status table02:34
mannticleranyone know if it's supposed to work?02:34
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mannticlerwhen I try to download an mms, it says "waiting..." and occasionally says "downloading" for a second or two before going back to waiting02:39
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locusfgood morning03:52
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alinromu70: ping06:59
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romu70hi alin07:14
alinromu70: so did it work?07:15
alinromu70:ssu dr adaptation0 shall allow you to do the zypper07:15
alinromu70: unfortunately turns out our old workaround is broken in 1.1.707:16
romu70let me try again (different PC than yesterday)07:16
alinromu70: you need to try on the phone not on pc07:16
romu70I'm connected through ssh07:16
romu70"ssu dr adaptation0" -> no output at all07:16
romu70"ssu lr adaptation0" ->
romu70now seems to work to install jolla-xt907:18
romu70shall I reboot to make the prediction active?07:19
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alinromu70: yes07:29
alinromu70: the problem is in 1.1.7 once you use the store adaptation will be back07:29
alinromu70: a bummer... this is another regression07:29
romu70ok, thanks a lot for your help, not a big deal to reboot07:30
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alinromu70: so does it work now the autocorrect?07:40
alinromu70: and if you are comming from xda can you post the instructions in there...07:40
alinbecause I have seen some other people ranting about...07:40
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sledgesspotify employee retweeted yesterdays xiaomi port, twice! He's the one who's doing a prototype of native spotify app for sailfish08:43
sledgeslet's hope our porting activities push even such amazing apps out!08:43
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SfietKonstantinWsledges: :)08:50
simonvdvsledges: That's good news :)08:50
SfietKonstantinWxiaomi port is pretty good news :)08:50
alin_phdeswer: hi08:50
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alin_phdeswer: you may want to comment on this
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romu70alin, coming from TMO mainly, but I'll post instructions08:56
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piggzmorning *09:07
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toadthsIs the bacon port project dead? Or hiatus?09:18
sledgesporter is on holiday09:20
toadthsThank you very much and good summer to the rest of you I will clarify on xda :)09:21
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piggzsledges: can you explain how works ..... from my reading, my rpm's should have date/time release number ... but im getting .1 everytime, which explains why the new rpms were not getting installed09:23
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sledgesoops :")09:23
sledgespiggz: sb2 -t $VENDOR-$DEVICE-armv7hl -m sdk-install -R cat /usr/lib/rpm/macros.d/macros.hybris09:24
sledges# to get proper dhd timestamps09:25
sledges%local_hadk_build_project   109:25
sledgestell me if it works09:25
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piggzsledges: cat: /usr/lib/rpm/macros.d/macros.hybris: No such file or directory09:33
sledgespiggz: i mean09:34
sledgesadd it there09:34
sledgeswasn't overly explicit &)09:35
alin_sledges: you cannot be explicit... is too early in the morning09:36
piggzalin_: sledges: .... and I got home at 4.30 am after 5 hours of flying, and a further 2 hours of driving ;)09:38
sledgesand still porting! now that's the spirit ;)09:38
alin_piggz: bloody hell you can afford a plane09:38
alin_piggz: or you are just the pilot09:38
piggzsledges: sorry, 5 hourse of being a passenger aboard a Jet2 flight ... where it is impossible to sleep and the water must be made from unicord tears09:39
piggzsledges: but is mrs pigg finds me porting, and not doing DIY im for it!09:39
alin_sledges: now I need your help...09:40
alin_sledges: any reason why connman does not have the pptp plugin enabled?09:41
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alin_sledges: just buiilt the pptp crap without issues09:41
* sledges censors a bit and passes onto connectivity sailors09:42
alin_sledges: i think crap is the proper adjective for pptp09:43
sledgeskeep channel clean :P09:44
alin_sledges: too late... we used ubuntu on it09:44
sledgesalin_: testing my patience?09:45
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alin_sledges: too late for that09:49
piggzsledges: it didnt work in the macro file, but does work in the ace .spec file09:50
sledgespiggz: that's a shame, ok use in .spec for now until we find a less intrusive mod09:52
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rebootithow to port sailfish OS on Xiaomi Redmi 1s?10:04
sledgesrebootit: follow the HADK guide pdf from
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sledgesinstead of hybris-10.1 , repo init .... hybris-11.010:06
sledgesonce you have setup your development environment, TheRedFox (current porter) will be able to give you more pointers from where to get device specific repos10:07
alin_sledges: is not theredfox does that?10:08
alin_sledges: i mean the redmi10:08
alin_lpotter: hi10:10
alin_lpotter: if you think this gives you enough info
alin_lpotter: I will add it to the bug log10:11
rebootitpage not found for
sledgesalin_: open a bug about your pptp issue in , and PR to connman10:13
alin_rebootit: thanks... stupid susepaste... does not like the long one10:14
alin_sledges: order from connectivity people?10:14
alin_sledges: is more than a pr needs a new package to be added pptp trivial to build10:14
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alin_sledges: needs this thing
alin_which I checked on the phone builds... but is above my knowledge of breaking things10:16
sledgesalin_: pptp is in openrepos10:17
alin_sledges: openrepos... but makes no sense not to be in the proper distro10:17
alin_sledges: especially for other things that cannot use openrepos10:18
sledgesabout adding new package10:19
alin_sledges: i mean I trust jolla more than some random openrepos10:19
alin_sledges: ok who is david?10:20
alin_sledges: he hid himself... he is on away...10:20
sledgesgive him a break :P10:21
sledgesalso, he's not the first to be ponged:P10:21
sledges13:13 < sledges> alin_: open a bug about your pptp issue in , and PR to connman10:21
alin_Stskeeps: hi... since I see your name there... what do you think about adding pptp to the mer10:21
sledgessuggesting new package needed10:21
sledgesso maintainers are aware as well, and can influence Stskeeps10:21
alin_sledges: yes.. I will do that I just try to gather more info10:22
sledgesyou chose not the best day, we are up to something :P10:22
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alin_let us hope is a good one10:24
sledgesyes, "up to no good" ;)10:24 NET::ERR_CERT_DATE_INVALID10:24
sledgesping lbt10:25
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alin_sledges: you said is not a good day10:27
alin_sledges: I will do a bug on that10:27
sledges"up to no good" doesn't mean no good for us :D10:28
merbot`Mer bug 1255 in connman "please enable pptp for connman" [Enhancement,New]10:38
sledgesalin_: add this to "See also":
sledgesalin_: also add comment about exactly why you need this (and how many people are in need of pptp, if it's not being replaced by others)10:40
sledgesbecause of security concerns jolla might not have considered it so far?10:41
sledgesor just busy ;)10:41
sledgesbut it would be interesting to see the whole picture10:41
merbot`Nemo bug 855 in Nemo Bugzilla "certificate date issue" [Normal,New]10:41
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alin_sledges: i read that one...10:42
alin_sledges: to be honest I do not see if any sane user will use vpn i think unions shall ban the usage of vpns10:43
sledgesalin_: pls write your comments to the bug10:43
alin_sledges: but in here... they use it.. and if I want to connect using any jolla device from work... needs to be there10:43
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alin_sledges: done10:48
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maikooolsledges: i have something for you12:19
maikooolsledges: could you show this to the world12:19
maikooolsledges: It's a Sony Xperia SP12:19
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maikoooli also updated the adaptations page, so it's up to date for that device12:21
sledgesmaikoool: yoohoo!!12:21
maikooolonly thing is12:21
mal-sledges: you might know who is responsible for the certificates has an expepired certificate12:21
sledgesmaikoool: which base? (so many ports recently, i'm lost)12:22
maikooolsettings app takes lot of time to startup :(12:22
sledgesmal-: lbt, bug filed (in logs)12:22
maikooolCM 1112:22
sledgesmaikoool: no image to try yet? ;)12:22
maikoooli have ont12:22
maikooolwait a sec12:22
maikoooli'll upload that12:22
maikooolbut adaptations repo is broken since file:/// etc12:22
sledgesyou could hack it12:24
maikoooli already tried :P12:24
maikoooldidt work out12:24
maikooolunless i can edit a file in the zip12:24
maikooolto change that12:24
sledgesi mean12:24
sledgesin .ks12:24
maikoooli tried uploading my droid-local-repo to the web12:25
maikoooland setting the HA_REPO sed thingy with that url12:25
maikooolbut it still added as the url12:25
maikooolwhich doenst work12:25
sledgesit's sed hadk to repos.ini12:25
sledgesbut 1.1.7 is giving us hard time with that, 1.1.6 is ok12:25
sledges(not far though:D)12:25
maikoooli'm on 1.1.6 for this12:26
maikooolelse i cant give zip to world :(12:26
mal-sledges: ok, missed that part in log12:26
sledgesmaikoool: we would like to reduce fragmentation and welcome these articles for ports:12:27
sledgeswith all download instructions12:27
sledgesso you could also link your dl image there12:27
sledgesand i'll just link it to wiki12:27
* sledges lost his dictionary today12:27
maikooolcould it be the settings are slow because of that adaptations repo?12:28
maikooolit just takes 20 seconds or so to initialize, after that its ok12:28
sledgesmaikoool: you need to mask bluetooth obex service12:28
maikoooli'll do that first then12:28
sledgeslet's see12:28
maikooolroll another image12:28
sledgesmaikoool: whilst you're at it, could you fixup a ?12:29
sledgesand that photo will also fit very nicely ;)12:29
maikooolwhat's the bluetooth service called? :P12:33
sledgesgrep for obexd12:33
sledgesbest bet12:33
maikoooldoesnt seem to be there12:35
maikooolat least not active12:35
maikoooland no .service files12:35
sledgesjust grep for blue then12:35
sledgesand paste12:35
sledgesmight be named differently12:36
maikooolis it a android process, spawned by droid-hal-init?12:36
sledgesgrep in /lib/systemd12:36
maikooolk nvm12:37
sledgesand /usr/lib/systemd/12:37
maikooolln -s /dev/null obexd.service12:37
maikooolsettings now works12:37
maikooolit wasnt running, but that does explain though12:37
sledgesreboot retry?12:37
maikoooli rebooted after the ln -s12:37
maikooolcause settings is only slow once per boot12:37
maikooolnow it wasnt12:38
maikooolso looks fixed to me12:38
maikoooladaptation repo is no big deal since cm users are used to zip flashing instead of ota updates :P12:38
maikoooljust is annoying it tries to come back :P12:38
sledgeswell but you could provide them with your updates;)12:38
sledgesfrom obs12:38
maikooolnothing provides pulseaudio-policy-enforcement >= 6.0.20 needed by droid-config-huashan-pulseaudio-settings12:39
maikooolstill broken12:39
maikooolobs that is12:39
mal-maikoool: you can build that package yourself12:40
mal-I added that to my obs12:40
sledgesor add :common as auxilliary repo12:40
mal-sledges: how to do that?12:40
maikoool    <path project="nemo:devel:hw:common" repository="sailfish_latest_armv7hl"/>12:41
maikooolit's already there12:41
maikooolthat seems to work for 1.1.7 but not for 1.1.612:41
mal-maikoool: is that package built for 1.1.6 on common?12:42
mal-maikoool: it's not pulseaudio-policy-enforcement disabled12:42
sledgesreview appreciated:
maikoooloh btw mal-: i manually did your change to libhybris for the path, that works like a charm12:46
maikoool(i did it manualy cause i'm not on latest cuase 1.1.6)12:46
maikooolcopying that file to system/lib/hw every flash really got boring :P12:47
mal-maikoool: :)12:47
mal-maikoool: now you see why I did that change, I was so annoyed with that also :)12:48
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mal-sledges: LGTMd12:48
mal-sledges: where is the source for sailfish-version.*.rpm?12:50
mal-or is that closed?12:50
sledgesmal-: closed :(12:51
sledgesare you looking into OTA? ;)12:51
sledgesmal-: thanks, merged12:51
mal-sledges: yes, I was thinking can we use anything else to update the os than "version"12:52
mal-like pkcon?12:52
mal-I was looking at the offline update and it seems to be done with packagekit and systemd12:53
sledgesmal-: yep12:53
sledgesversion uses packagekit12:53
alin_mal-: zypper dup12:54
mal-sledges: does it launch the offline mode when you run it from commandline?12:54
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sledgesalin_: zypper dup doesn't take new packages/pattern changes12:55
sledgesmal-: ^12:55
sledgesmal-: store-client launches offline mode12:55
sledgesversion --dup stays online12:55
alin_sledges: e?12:55
alin_sledges: of course it does... needs proper settings that is all12:55
sledgesalin_: zypper install -t pattern PATTERN12:56
sledgesbut i'm talking about dup12:56
alin_sledges: dup will update everything is to be updated to the newest version12:56
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alin_sledges: show me a case which will not work ...12:57
sledgesalin_: add new package to a pattern12:58
sledgesit won't get in12:59
alin_sledges: hard to believe let me ask13:00
mal-sledges: is the source repo of the packagekit used on sailfish available?13:02
sledgesmal-: sure:
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kidohey guys! :)13:05
alin_sledges: they say it shall do it...13:06
alin_mal-: zypper dup -d shall just download13:06
alin_zypper dup then will do the rest13:06
sledgesalin_: from which libzypp version?13:06
kidoI went further than yesterday with my LG G Watch, indeed I had to run /system/bin/servicemanager, that is what my test_hwcomposer was waiting for! Now I meet the same error as what's written on the wiki about the Motorola Photon Q "ERROR: Library '/vendor/lib/egl/' not found" any clue about that one?13:07
alin_sledges: not totally sure.. but around version 1013:09
alin_sledges: we use 12 as far as I know13:09
sledgesalin_: i'll reconfirm why we should not use zypper but use pkcon at all times and for what reasons13:10
sledgesalin_: in the meantime, could you run through and see if 1.1.7 introduces any new packages in patterns?13:11
merbot`Nemo bug 852 in Hybris-ing "[GOAL] OTA (Over-the-Air) updates" [Normal,New]13:11
alin_sledges: I think is because the crazy repo isolation13:11
sledgesin this way we can simply prove it works13:11
sledges(it=zupper --dup)13:11
sledgesit will be parallel effort to what mal- is up to ;)13:11
sledges(no good either i presum;))13:12
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alin_sledges: the problem is or is not I need to change dhd repos by hand13:17
sledgesthat's another issue, workaround by hand13:17
mal-sledges: fun as always, sailfish has packagekit 0.8.9 but 0.8.10 has some additional useful commands13:17
alin_sledges: I was just complaining about your instrctions...13:18
mal-sledges: hmm, or maybe those are not needed after all13:19
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mal-sledges: looks like we can trigger an offline update from pkcon13:24
sledgeshow cool:)13:25
mal-sledges: we cannot use the pkcon offline-* versions of those commands but the other way should be ok13:26
mal-just need to find a way to get the correct packages to be downloaded13:27
alin_pkcon supposed to be one interface for many backends...13:27
sledgesmal-: ssu release X.Y.Z.Ž; pkcon somethinglike-system-upgrade?13:27
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alin_sledges: in multirom that will not work13:33
alin_will not reboot13:34
mal-does pkcon get-distro-upgrades report anything on hammerhead on 1.1.6 if there is 1.1.7 available13:36
sledgesalin_: mal-: it doesn't reboot into special mode, if we don't want to. just goes into offline mode13:36
sledgesespecially on multirom we don't have to flash anything13:36
sledgesjust copy13:37
mal-sledges: anyway it disables most services which is good13:37
alin_sledges: to keep ssu.ini not replaced needs to be marked in the rpm13:37
alin_sledges: and that will keep it untouch13:37
sledgesalin_: i lost you somewhere13:38
sledgeswe are modifying repos.ini, not ssu.ini13:38
sledgesmal-: yes13:38
alin_sledges: yap.. repos.ini... I was thingking at somethign else13:38
sledgesi still can't parse your sentence13:38
alin_I have 2g connection... so version --dup will not work13:39
sledgesthe repos.ini problem on 1.1.7 is a separate thing13:39
alin_sledges: ssu-vendor-data-jolla-0.86-10.25.2.jolla.noarch provides the repos.ini13:39
sledgeswe are updating from 1.1.6 where everything's fine, to 1.1.713:39
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sledgesmal-: i don't think get-distro-upgrades returns anything if you are not early access subscriber13:40
sledgesmal-: and also may be filtered per device13:40
sledges"rolled out"13:40
sledgesper account13:40
alin_sledges: when we update we will get again a repos.ini with the silly adaptation0 in it13:42
sledgesalin_: yes, and that's one more issue, which was known since months we started thinking about OTA13:42
sledgesbut that's about it13:42
sledgessome custom oneshot would be needed there13:42
alin_sledges: yap...13:43
maikooolpretty sure i've pointed kickstart file to correct repo on web13:43
maikooolmic also got it's pacakges from there13:43
alin_sledges: "If adaptation0 does get reset," there is no if there13:43
maikooolis on the device13:43
maikooolso odd13:43
sledgesalin_: im writing "if" to know for certain when and how many times and where13:43
sledgesafter the test13:43
sledgesmaikoool: what's in repos.ini ?13:44
alin_sledges: I doubt rpms are not deterministic... if it does not happen... then will be a bug13:44
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sledgesalin_: i know when it happens for sure, i'm writing in a way that we need to recheck every step, since 1.1.7 went rogue13:44
sledgessplitting hairs...13:44
maikooolhm adaptation=%(%(maintainer):=jolla?%(rndProtocol): (etc.)13:45
sledgesmaikoool: no int %post --nochroot then ?13:45
sledges(i hope you are looking into n5 .ks as example)13:46
maikoooli was looking on device13:46
sledgessed hack13:46
sledgesin .ks13:46
sledgeson repos.ini13:46
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alin_sledges: in that rpm repos.ini shall have this in front
alin_sledges: this will prevent an update touching it13:47
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sledgesalin_: and leases too?;p13:47
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alin_sledges: I do not know about that.. philippe will know13:48
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sledges16:47 < alin_> sledges: in that rpm repos.ini shall have this in front
sledgeswhat do you mean by "shall have this in"?13:51
sledgesit has or it should have?13:52
alin_sledges: %config13:52
alin_sledges: %config(noreplace) so an update will not replace the file13:52
alin_does anyoane have a 1.1.6 booted?13:52
sledgesand what if update needs to replace it?13:52
sledgesfor some changes13:53
yangmnh1402, they finally decided to do something about my nexus 513:53
alin_sledges: tough luck13:53
yangmthey gave my money back13:53
alin_sledges: you cannot have it both ways...13:53
yangmaaaaan I got...13:53
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alin_anyhow if you have a 1.1.6 booted can you check this store-auth-repos=aliendalvik,thirdparty,adaptation,adaptation0,adaptation1,eas,xt913:53
yangma new screen for my nexus 413:53
alin_i mean if is the same13:53
yangmno iPhones this time13:54
sledgesyangm: welcome back \o/13:54
alin_# the adaptation0/1 bits are a bit hacky, but need to remain until ssu can do proper scope matching on adaptations13:54
alin_comment above13:54
yangmsledges, what's up?13:54
sledgesyangm: so many ports that i lost count and status13:55
sledgesalso super busy and wish alin_ was a bit more self-sufficient ;P13:55
nh1402yangm: welcome back13:55
alin_sledges: probably if you want to have it replace you shall have it done in the .rpm13:55
sledgesnh1402 has 1.1.6, i know ;)13:56
nh1402I have both 1.1.6 and 1.1.713:56
nh1402as well as omnirom 5.1 and Android M developer preview 1 and (the currently non-booting) M developer preview 313:57
yangmfine I guess. Windows 10 coming to mi2, which has the same everything as Nexus 5 kinda lets me depressed about how Nexus 5 is going to run windows and not my nexus 413:57
yangmbut the nexus 4 runs sailfish, so I got that going for me, which is nice13:57
nh1402yangm: you mean the Nexus 5 has the capability of running Windows, not that Microsoft would support it13:57
sledgesyangm: broken screen oyu said;)13:58
yangmnh1402, yep.13:58
maikooolthe urls in there are up to date13:58
sledgesmaikoool: highly recommend .ks hack13:58
sledgesmaikoool: that means first who tries your image will come back with unique imei13:59
sledgesmaikoool: and that means we can enable store for huashan13:59
maikooolks hack?13:59
nh1402how would one test those store-auth-repos13:59
maikooolthe adaptation stuff13:59
maikoooli cant find that13:59
sledges(also your images should reside there too, for consistency;) ask tbr for login)13:59
maikooolthats not https13:59
maikooolmine is14:00
yangmsledges, GN broke the screen, N4 broke the screen, N5 broke the usb port under warranty.14:00
kidohas anyone tested HWC_DEVICE_API_VERSION_1_4 ?14:00
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yangmafter N4 I learned how to deal with slippy phones :P14:00
sledgeskido: yes:
kidosledges: great thanks :)14:01
sledgesyangm: so you got n4 back usable or?14:01
nh1402yangm: shashlik is under developement (not working yet), but will probably require heavy modification to work on Sailfish, and there's another chroot method which should be at around native speed, by rendering it to a second framebuffer. Only thing stopping us from doing that is we don't know what to modify to force android to use fb114:01
sledgeskido: so what's the project you're working on if no secret? ;)14:02
yangmwell, it is very usable but it's back is still scattered14:02
* tbr will need to look into if a combination of recent webserver and letsencrypt will make it possible to integrate multiple certificates per IP. If not, I also take donations to buy a wildcard cert...14:02
Stskeepstbr: startssl not an option?14:02
tbrStskeeps: their wildcard cert is €€€14:02
maikooolwhy wildcard?14:02
tbrbecause that machine hosts more than one website?14:03
maikooolyou can issue as many single-subdomain certs as you like14:03
maikoool+ SNI14:03
Stskeepstbr: good point14:03
yangmnh1402, have you seen windows 10 android port?14:03
tbrstartcom will only issue /one/ per domain AFAIU, so I'm waiting for letsencrypt to try SNI14:03
maikoool(at least i have 12 startssl certs, they havent told me to stop making more (yet))14:03
kidosledges: of course there's no secret :) I believe that when it comed to wearable devices with a H24 active microphone privacy matters even more than everywhere else and the open  source community need a fully open platform to hack cool stuff... a watch can be a really funny platform. That's why I want to create an open platform for smartwatches :)14:03
kidosledges: if you're interested there are already some things there but I still have a lot of commit that needs to be pushed14:04
nh1402yangm: which news are you referring to? android apps on windows 10 or Windows 10 to android phones. I've seen both.14:04
tbrmaikoool: anyway, https doesn't really make the download that much more secure. if you _really_ want to do something, sign the image, include a signature file.14:04
yangmnh1402, android apps on windows14:04
nh1402yangm: they removed the google services from the framework, so it's not full android app support.14:05
maikooolbut i like green padlocks :(14:05
sledgeskido: that's very interesting :) any thoughts about the UX yet?;)14:05
yangmyeah, licensing issues I guess. but people at XDA already rooted and got play services back14:05
yangmsome say it's running without a kernel (?) some say it's running on hyper-v14:06
yangmdidn't find consistent info14:07
kidosledges: I will use lipstick for sure but I'm still not sure about how it could looks like because I was more concerned about the feasibility of the project... my asteroid-launched seems to be about to run so I'm *terribly* excited!14:07
kidoasteroid-launcher* (basicaly it's the lipstick demo for now)14:07
nh1402the weird thing is that Google pay Microsoft for every android phone for some patent thing.14:07
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tbrmaikoool: then I also have a bridge to sell you14:07
maikooolwhere is it located?14:07
Stskeepskido: what watch did you get it working on?14:07
kidoStskeeps: LG G Watch, there are still some things remaining though14:08
tbrwho cares where, it comes with a green padlock on the side!14:08
Stskeepskido: but gpu working?14:08
maikooolas long as there are no beasts at the bridge14:09
kidoStskeeps: well I start to have some hwcomposer output but still nothing on screen, I'm curently compiling sledges' qt5-qpa-hwcomposer-plugin to use the latest hwcomposer API14:09
nh1402alin_: I've booted into 1.1.6 what would you like me to test14:10
alin_nh1402: found it without boot in the end14:10
alin_nh1402: there is no difference14:11
nh1402I've lost you there, not really sure what you're talking about.14:11
mannticleryangm: does mms work on your n4? not on mine, and I'm trying to troubleshoot it (thinking it's my provider being dumb)14:12
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sledgesis on something that my ISP had its wires heating up14:15
sledgesand im in .uk14:16
sledgesprobably drugs14:16
alin_sledges: the mistake I think was in .ks14:16
alin_sed -i -e 's|^adaptation0=.*$|adaptation0=|' /usr/share/ssu/repos.ini14:16
sledgesat least14:16
alin_sledges: shall be adaptation no adaptation014:16
nh1402sledges: did you want me to test something, I know I was pinged for something regarding 1.1.6 but can't make out what.14:16
alin_nh1402: but 85214:16
maikooolbut this line i'm on goes up to 2514:16
sledgesnh1402: it was needing you to have linux on your host; got it? ;)14:17
yangmmannticler, I didn't set up mine yet but I think you should need to copy MMS APN settings from android14:17
nh1402sledges: still working on that.14:17
mannticleryangm: thanks! I'll check into that. gotta go to work now..14:18
sledgesnh1402: good:)14:18
sledgesalin_: have fun experimenting!14:18
sledgeskido: all the best with your project! sounds really cool!14:19
* sledges goes back into his cave14:19
alin_sledges: now it works.. after i sed on adaptation it works ... installing from store does not break anything14:19
sledgesalin_: but that's only for 1.1.7 ?14:19
alin_sledges: yes... that is on 1.1.714:19
kidosledges: thank you very much :)14:19
sledgesalin_: would it work on 1.1.6)14:20
sledgesas that would be one less of headache for maikoool14:20
alin_sledges: the sed bit? why shall not work he shall test... we did not have any issue like this on 1.1.614:20
sledgesalin_: but maybe adaptation0 is needed there instead of adaptation014:21
sledgesalin_: something still broke it in 1.1.714:22
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alin_sledges: adaptation0 shall not be needed is the same repo as iin dhd.. if maikoool followed he same ideas as in the hammerhead ks14:22
alin_store will still activate it... but will activate a valid repo...14:23
sledgesok maikoool , so you should add this to your .ks %post section (warning, not %post --nochroot!):14:24
sledgessed -i -e 's|^adaptation0=.*$|adaptation0=|' /usr/share/ssu/repos.ini14:24
sledgesmaikoool: and add SailfishOS latest here:
sledgesthis will be the rolling repo for all of your adaptations (until you gracefully move out to proper nemo:devel:hw:sony:huashan14:25
maikooollike this?     <path project="nemo:devel:hw:common" repository="sailfish_latest_armv7hl"/>14:26
sledgesno, via
sledgesadd one more repo14:26
sledgesfrom the checkbox14:26
sledges(then add :common to it additionally)14:26
alin_maikoool: get inspitation from this
sledgessed -i -e 's|^adaptation=.*$|adaptation=|' /usr/share/ssu/repos.ini14:27
sledgesalin_: is adaptation* ok now? ^14:27
alin_sledges: yes like in the past...14:28
alin_sledges: installing from store activates it but the repo is the correct one.. .hence all is fine14:28
alin_sledges: maybe my script is borked in the end... I do not know14:29
sledgesalin_: you're right, i can't find adaptation0= on jolla phone's /usr/share/ssu/repos.ini14:31
sledgesmeans that .ks never worked 8)14:31
sledgessince few updates14:31
sledgesyet i can find adaptation=...14:31
sledgesok, so all's well, let's see how maikoool gets on14:32
* sledges hides now for a bit14:32
alin_sledges: should be adaptation not adaptation0... me too14:32
alin_sledges: I think I know what is the issue..  sed shall be on adaptation but we shall add an adaptation0 when we use external14:42
alin_I do not know how this happened14:43
alin_found the issue and fixed...14:44
sledgesalin_: so which one is it then sed to adaptation0 or adaptation?14:46
alin_sledges: adaptation14:46
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sledgesalin_: what do you mean by this comment?14:49
merbot`Nemo bug 852 in Hybris-ing "[GOAL] OTA (Over-the-Air) updates" [Normal,New]14:49
sledges"went on my 1.1.7 installed"14:49
alin_sledges: baaaa... nothing should be ignored thought I did not click14:51
Mister_Magisterhybirs is downloading ver very slowly14:51
alin_blimey... sledges seems found another thing which on jolla phone works but not on ported...14:55
alin_eduroam connectivity14:55
alin_one of the connman people seems to have a jolla and tested14:55
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maikooolyay obs is all green :D15:00
maikoooli forced my submodules to the versions that hammerhead repos have15:00
maikooolthat fixed 1.1.615:00
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sledgesmaikoool: well done! you found the key;)15:08
maikooolstill no patterns though15:09
Mister_Magisteryummy only 2GB left :v15:09
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sledgesmaikoool: still no lbt:(15:11
sledgeshe's back monday15:11
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maikooolthere isnt a way to generate the patterns locally so i can at least build an image with rpms from obs?15:22
sledgesmaikoool: just add file:/// as one of repos into ks15:23
sledgesand in local repo you'll have patterns15:23
sledgesbut nothing more15:23
sledges(only dhd rpms)15:23
sledgesthen add obs repo as adaptation115:23
sledgesnote this will have nothing to do with final image repos set15:23
sledgesessentially, following both snippets of 8.2 hadk15:24
maikooolso just build as usual, but skip 7.1.4+ and chapter 13.8,15:26
sledgesmaikoool: yes15:27
sledgesand do 8.2 snippet under the warning banner15:28
maikooolat least i can now switch to modular fully15:28
maikooolwhich is nice15:28
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kidois minimer supposed to look like that ? :D16:05
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k3aHey. I see that mpdecision is used in the Nexus 5 port but is there any reason why default governor on cpu0 is 'interactive'? It seems that setting it to 'conservative' lowers to energy consumption by ~30% in idle, locked screen situation (as the CPU is set to 300 instead of >1000)16:07
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sledgeskido: not really:)) it's white backgroud and clear blue mer logo16:09
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sledgesk3a: thanks for the find; nexus5 hasn't been optimised in those regards by anyone; will you be the first?;)16:09
kidocongrats to jolla for that tablet :D16:10
mal-sledges: off topic here but there is warning about a slow update, could it be related to the tracker slowness when building the image with mic
k3amaybe. I really love Jolla, it's the platform I have been waiting for :) so I will try to use it as my primary phone platform16:10
sledgesmal-: only logs can tell, tracker is doing first time init, so unlikely16:11
sledgesk3a: thanks; we are actually not happy by recent regression of sensors eating 10% cpu16:11
mal-sledges: when I built a 1.1.7 image it took a very very long asd tracker was doing some oddities16:11
sledgeshence battery drain16:11
sledgesk3a: but before battery life was awesome, and with your suggestion probably even more:)16:11
mal-has anyone else noticed that when building 1.1.7?16:12
k3aand I plan to join the community at some point as I have programming and linux xp. It will take some time to learn all the jolla-related stuff but I am looking forward to it :)16:12
sledgesmal-: internally 1.1.7 images build fine short16:12
sledgesk3a: we'll throw you right in:)16:13
k3ayep I've noticed that sensorfwd sometimes eats qutie a lot of cpu, probably unnecesarily16:13
sledgesk3a: it's a regression since alpha11 iirc16:13
sledgeswould be good to backtrack and bisect commits16:13
sledgesvague hope, but still (as might not be sensorfw package related, but a combination of things)16:13
k3akk thanks, will try to have a look at it mroe closely when I have time. Will report any findings I find16:14
alin_k3a: yap.. polling like crazy16:14
alin_k3a: which image do you run?16:14
alin_k3a: sync with lpotter16:15
yangmsee ya16:16
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alin_does anyone remember the sensor bug16:17
alin_the number16:17
alin_k3a: ok then I think that does not have it16:17
alin_k3a: we have a 1.1.7 testing out16:17
k3aah... I tried to upgrade to 1.1.7 yesterday via version --dup and it failed :D had to reflash
k3a(of course I set ssu release before, but something got wrong)16:18
alin_k3a: mrom?16:19
merbot`Nemo bug 837 in Hybris-ing "[hammerhead][alpha12] Bad battery life" [Major,New]16:19
alin_k3a: is normal... we work on that16:19
alin_sledges: thanks16:19
alin_sledges: I will add the logs for lpotter16:19
sledgesalin_: create new bug16:19
sledgeswhich blocks 83716:19
sledgesbecause 837 is too generic16:19
alin_sledges: there is already one16:20
alin_sledges: strange none...16:22
k3ait's weird as it's not pulling in my current but I swear I had the same build yesterday and it was pulling like 10% cpu. I am not sure but maybe systemctl restart sensorfwd helped. I have Sailfish only 2 days so need a bit more time watching it16:22
k3asorry polling, not English native so sometimes I make stupid mistakes :D16:23
k3apolling events, eating cpu :P16:23
k3ahow did you get 1.1.7? By installing a readymade rom or updating?16:25
alin_k3a: yes... you are right pre α12 we had issues16:28
merbot`Nemo bug 856 in Hybris-ing "[hammerhead][alpha12-13]sensors drain battery" [Normal,New]16:29
alin_with logs16:29
alin_I will add more if needed16:29
alin_ther eis something funny with persistent is not so persistent n logs16:30
alin_bloody hell I could have swear i made it persistent16:31
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kidosledges: didn't you get "OpenGL ES 3.0 entry points not found" when working with the latest hwcomposer?16:44
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sledgeskido: nope16:45
sledgesalterego: thanks16:45
kidoalright :)16:45
sledgesbut alterego is also a good lad ;)16:45
svanderveldtsledges: I have an image, both from test_hwcomposer and from minimer :)16:49
svanderveldtminimer seems to crash the phone though :P and I get ? Hz in the top, not sure if that's correct16:50
mal-svanderveldt: what did you change?16:52
svanderveldtmal-: I disabled system.mount16:52
svanderveldtmal-: Was simply trying everything again I did to this point, enabling/disabling and disabling system.mount made it work16:53
svanderveldtmal-: So there's sth wrong there16:53
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mal-svanderveldt: what? that should break everything related to graphics16:54
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svanderveldtmal-: Yeah, kinda strange. What's even stranger is that there is content in /system even with /dev/mmcblk0p16 not mounted to it.16:55
svanderveldtmal-: Seems strange to me, or is that expected behaviour?16:55
mal-svanderveldt: then you have something really wrong on your system16:55
svanderveldtmal-: always good to know :P16:55
svanderveldtmal-: /system should contain the files from the CM zip, right?16:55
mal-svanderveldt: yes16:56
svanderveldtmal-: OK, I'll check if that's the case16:56
mal-just wondering how those files ended up there16:56
svanderveldtmal-: Maybe I screwed up, maybe because of multirom. But at least I have sth to troubleshoot :)16:57
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mal-svanderveldt: I would suggest you make notes about all the changes you have made so far and reflash both cm and sailfish, then look again16:57
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mal-multirom could do something strange16:58
Manticleer_question: according to the sailfish guide, under Settings > System > Connectivity, there should be an option for Mobile Network. But I dont have that option. nexus4. is that wrong?16:58
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svanderveldtmal-: Yeah, I'll do a rebuild and reflash after I find where the files are coming from16:59
mal-svanderveldt: that could be a good idea, then you can also have the missing fixed hwcomposer there and all the other missing things17:00
mal-weren't you missing also system.mount?17:00
svanderveldtmal-: Yeah, I was17:01
svanderveldtmal-: What do I have to change so that gets created automatically?17:02
svanderveldtmal-: the build system is still a little black-boxy to me17:02
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maikooolsledges: i uploaded new image made from obs rpms, that fixes the pixel ratio and zypper slowness17:04
maikooolsledges: when the patterns on obs are fixed i'll try the online image generator, thus switching download location to official servers17:04
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maikooolsledges: could you maybe tweet/g+ out the photo so i can see who else's interested in sailfish on xperia sp?17:06
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mal-sledges: did you intentionally leave that qt5-qpa-hwcomposer-plugin PR unmerged after LGTM17:10
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mal-svanderveldt: not quite sure why it's not creating the system.mount, sledges said something about /*.rc and dhd build17:11
svanderveldtmal-: Yeah, I remember sth like that as well. What's dhd? droid-hal-device17:12
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svanderveldtmal-: Ah, here it is
mal-yes, that's it17:15
mal-svanderveldt: check the out/ for those fstab files17:15
svanderveldtmal-: Yeah, it might be that it picks the wrong one, I have to under /device, from 2 different common repo's17:16
svanderveldt*I have two17:17
mal-svanderveldt: are those in out/target/product/%{device}/root/ ?17:17
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svanderveldtmal-: no, under /device if I remember correctly17:18
mal-svanderveldt: yes, but we want to know what is in that folder I gave to determine if the file is successfully thre17:19
svanderveldtmal-: Yeah, the fstab.qcom from jf-common is there17:20
mal-and the content looks ok?17:21
svanderveldtmal-: hmm, there's even a tmp/units/system.mount17:22
mal-svanderveldt: then I don't understand, check the sailfish zip also17:22
svanderveldtmal-: yeah, will do17:22
mal-svanderveldt: does tmp/units/system.mount look ok17:22
svanderveldtmal-: yeah, looks fine. Pretty much like you suggested with 2 comments below about where it got it's info from17:23
sledgesmaikoool: awesome! i'll tweet soon:)17:24
sledgesmal-: svanderveldt: hold your horses:)17:24
maikooolstill has some bugs, but is a good first 'public' release imo17:24
sledgesmultirom gets two .zips - cm and sf17:24
sledgesmaikoool: did you manage to get .ks hack in?17:24
maikooolyep, obs works on device17:24
maikooolno zypper derpyness anymoar17:24
svanderveldtsledges: Yeah I know, gonna dive into them now17:25
sledgesvery nice! could you check if ssu s corresponds to your imei?17:25
sledgessvanderveldt: mal-: means no system.mount should be there, or there should be, but not mounting a partition, but just mount --bind the extracted's /system17:25
maikooolsledges: yes it does17:25
mal-sledges: oh17:25
sledgessvanderveldt: mal-: i think multirom setups don't have system.mount intentionally, also i think multirom moves /system to sailfishos rootfs17:26
maikoooli read somewhere it should also work without sim inserted, will try that now17:26
sledgesmaikoool: yes pls, that's very important it says the same with and without sim17:26
maikooolsledges: its the same, but connman needs to be started17:27
maikoooli was too quick with the command, said connman not AVAILABLE, then the UID is different17:27
maikoool1 sec later it was ok17:27
mal-sledges: svanderveldt then no wonder there are problems if we have forcefully mounted the wrong /system17:27
maikoooli assume that's to be expected?17:28
sledgesmaikoool: ah ok so just wait a bit into boot? should be enough time until app/store open?17:28
sledgesmal-: yep :")17:28
maikoooli telnetted in before gui was on screen :P17:28
maikooolso all is probably well :)17:28
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sledgesmal-: svanderveldt: still can't get over an amazing fact that sammy devices have mrom, and that the port has been done solely on mrom from zero :D17:29
sledgesmaikoool: cool, yep!17:29
maikooolnow we wait for the first to flash17:29
maikoooli'll let him check his id too, and PM that to you17:29
maikoool(or her)17:29
maikooolthat ok? so we can get store working on this?17:29
mal-sledges: indeed, nice achievement to get it at least partially running with that17:30
BluesLee_alin, sledges: can you go through the open bugs please? there are some duplicates (battery life with regards to sensors, OTA) and the roaming one is fixed afaik.17:30
svanderveldtsledges: so there's no need to mount /dev/mmcblk0p16? Would make sense17:30
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sledgesmaikoool: yes17:31
maikooolis a imei sensitive data btw?17:31
maikooolprobably is17:31
sledgesBluesLee_: please comment inside the bugs, you can mark them as duplicates too;)17:31
maikooolok if i change some numbers to *'s when PMing?17:31
sledgesto whoever is paranoid :) we are not announcing it to tens of thousands:)17:32
sledgesmaikoool: okok:)17:32
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maikooolif you REALLY need all the numbers that's ok too17:32
sledgesmaikoool: you can also see if it's your imei or not17:32
sledgesit's back printed17:32
sledgesand also on sales box17:32
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maikoooli have the box phone came in here17:32
sledgeswhat you might not really have :D17:32
maikooolit matches17:32
maikoool(apart from the dashes obviously :P)17:32
mal-sledges: btw, it there a easy way to copy a obs project to another location? or do I have to manually do that? just thinking ahead of time the transition to nemo:devel:hw17:32
nh1402sledges: has anyone tried using a custom kernel with a custom CPU governer yet?17:33
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sledgesmal-: osc copypac17:34
sledgesosc you became friend with yesterday:)17:34
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mal-sledges: I was never successful with that yesterday :)17:34
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sledgesnaughty naughty17:35
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mal-sledges: did you see my question about that qt5-qpa PR?17:37
sledgesmal-: reading my mind17:37
sledgesmal-: i'm waiting for sletta to lgtm it17:38
sledges24 hours grace;)17:38
sledgesthen we'll merge:)17:38
mal-sledges: ok17:38
mal-no problem17:38
sledgesi't better to also test it on tablet17:38
sledgesi'll try that too within those hours17:38
sledgesmal-: is your mic tracker lag 100% reproducible?17:38
sledgescould you point to any logs pls?17:39
mal-sledges: I can try to build a new image today to see what happens, there were some timeouts etc17:40
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sledgesmaikoool: great guide! i admire the first sentence :D17:42
sledgesmaikoool: i touched it up to avoid fragmentation17:42
sledgesand will link it to the table17:42
svanderveldtsledges: mal- found it, the sailfish_multirom_packer script does indeed remove the system.mount file and then mv's android's /system directory to the sailfish rootfs
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maikooolah nice17:43
maikoooli copied most of it from i gist i quickly wrote when someone came in here and asked for the zip17:43
maikooolalso: it's impossible to have a xperia sp with warranty since it's two years old :P17:43
maikooolbut it's xda convention to yell out warranty void stuff :P17:44
maikooolthis warning is one of my favorites so far though (that guy did cm11 on my htc sensation):
svanderveldtmaikoool: I never understood why there's so little development for Sony devices, they seem to be the most open and sharing of the big manufacturers17:45
maikooolwell, they may be the most open17:45
maikooolbut there are some issues17:45
maikooolthe bootloaders for instance17:45
maikooolthe whole camera drm keys story isnt very nice too17:46
svanderveldtmaikoool: Ah, OK, so they still have their issues17:46
svanderveldtWell, better than exynos :P17:46
sledgesmaikoool: still doesn't support %attachment and %pack parts, so we'll wait for lbt for both patterns and img:)17:46
maikoooland i dont like the fxp guys much since they forbid you to mirror their roms, but only provide a 20kb/s download link full of ads17:46
maikooolsledges: that's np, the xperia sp is stable enough for me to use it as backup phone while working/ruining my z3 compact :P17:47
svanderveldtmaikoool: Yeah, never understood fxp myself actually, why they wanted to be separate from CM17:47
maikooolby the time that's done....17:47
sledgesmaikoool: for next releases, i think mal- fixed hwcomposer.*.so pickup so it can be shipped inside image under /usr/libexec/...17:47
maikooolsvanderveldt: they do commit their code to CM repos though afaik17:48
maikooolsledges: i backported that to 1.1.6 compatible libhybris17:48
maikooolso it's in my image17:48
sledgesmaikoool: understood, ok17:48
maikoooland in the package on obs17:48
maikooolotherwise there'd be a note about it in the guide ;)17:48
sledgesmaikoool: so you ported yourself a sailfish to have a backup sailfish phone, whilst you port sailfish to your main phone? :D17:48
maikooolwell, i started porting while it was still my main phone17:49
sledgesi know:) still sounds pretty cool :D17:49
maikooolthen got a message from telecom provider my 2 years are over17:49
maikooolso got a new one17:49
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sledgesperfect timing17:49
maikooolmy XP screen is buggy (also with cm)17:49
maikooolso it was needed as well17:49
svanderveldtdmesg -w is quiet nice :)17:50
maikooolthink it may have become a bit too hot at some point :P17:50
maikooolthat doenst work for me :( dmesg -w17:50
maikooolprobably need systemd storage=persistent17:50
maikoools still on /proc/kmsg17:50
svanderveldtmaikoool: it's probably too new17:51
maikooolon my arch install it does work17:51
svanderveldtyeah, same here :) less typing ;)17:51
maikooolcat /proc/kmsg does follow btw17:52
maikooolbut doenst keep history :(17:52
svanderveldtmaikoool: yeah, quit funny how cat follows, apparently /proc/kmsg doesn't behave like a normal file17:52
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maikooolonly thing i'm really missing on sailfish os so far is a supersu/superuser app17:54
maikoooli'm getting pretty fed up with typing my password for apps that need root access17:55
maikooolyes i know, if i'm missing something just write it myself, but i cant even get a list to work in silica :P17:55
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sledgesmaikoool: ^17:58
sledgesmaikoool: which apps? just add devel-su in front and set some short password:D17:59
sledgesmaikoool: or su-devel17:59
maikoooli was planning on writing a iptables app someday17:59
sledgesa nice timeout probably would be good, or just keep devel-su shell window ope17:59
maikooolbut then i'd need to ask for password every time rules are applied17:59
maikooolthere's a scripting helper app as well, that also cant save your password18:00
maikooolwhile some just put it in a database (i'm assuming plaintext)18:00
maikooolbut since there are like 4 different supersuser apps for android, i was thinking, how hard can it be18:00
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sledgesPSA 2:
sledgestwo devices a day keeps the doctor away18:02
sledgescan we keep up with the streak? :D18:02
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maikoooli heard cm10.1 based roms will never get audio support18:03
maikooolthat true?18:03
maikooolcause if it isn't, i can probably get a third phone working for tomorrow :P18:03
sledgesaudio works on mako18:04
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sledgesand it's 10.1 port18:04
sledgesbut if you mean codecs, then yes :/18:04
sledgesuntil someone fixes fence leaks18:04
maikooolcause i'm having some troubles with cm11 based port, device was origionally release with 2.3 so that's no wonder18:05
sledgesthen 10.1 ports can get camera, video playback etc18:05
svanderveldtDoes anybody know where /proc/last_kmsg is actually stored? It gets overwritten by the one from multirom it seems18:05
maikooolsvanderveldt: in memory18:05
sledgessvanderveldt: /proc/kmsg18:05
sledgesif last_ not there18:05
maikooolit's wiped on a power cycle18:05
svanderveldtso how could you ever get it's contents out on a crash?18:06
maikooolif the crash invokes a reboot18:06
maikoooland your bootimage works (eg recovery/cm)18:06
maikooolthen last_kmsg will be there18:06
maikooolcause a reboot doesnt have to mean power cycle18:06
svanderveldtmaikoool: Ah, OK. Unfortunately it hangs, no way to reboot I guess18:07
maikooolsome devices have a hardware switch that invokes a reboot18:07
maikooolnot always without powercycle18:07
svanderveldtBut the contents from /proc/last_kmsg should be the same as when tailing /proc/kmsg with cat /proc/kmsg right?18:07
maikooolyes, but from the previous boot18:08
svanderveldtallright, I've tailed it until it froze, so should be ok then18:08
maikooolit's mainly useful if you cant access /proc/kmsg at the time of the crash afaik18:09
maikooolso for bugs in kernel boot, where the device instantly reboots on panics18:09
svanderveldtmaikoool: Ah, allright. That makes sense18:09
maikooolthere should be a watchdog rebooting your device on a hang though18:10
maikooolbut the 'hang' might also just be telnet being disabled, not the entire system18:10
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svanderveldtmaikoool: yeah, that could be the case as well, although the usb0 device is disconnected as well which might imply a crash18:12
svanderveldtmaikoool: Why would telnet stop? Simply a crash or sth else?18:12
maikooollipstick booting but not crashing but not showing anything on screen either18:13
maikooolstuck on startup wizard for example18:13
maikooolso system thinks it runs, as does lipstick, but you cant see it18:13
maikoooland since resetting telnet is a part of lipstick booting (afaik), that also breaks18:13
svanderveldtmaikoool: I've masked user@100000, would that stop lipstick from booting?18:14
maikooolbut it never gets to full ui because waiting for user input, so telnet is never restarted18:14
maikooolit should, yes18:14
svanderveldtOK, I'll dig through some more logs/systemd statusses then18:14
maikooolmasking user@10000 also prevents you from manually starting it as far as i know18:14
maikoooli mainly use this when i want to disable lipstick18:15
maikooolln -s /dev/null /etc/systemd/user/lipstick.service18:15
maikooolso the systemd user session is still spawned so i can start lipstick myself if needed to debug18:15
maikooolbut i'm not actually sure if you need the user session or wether it starts by itself if needed18:15
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svanderveldtmaikoool: masking user@100000 kept the phone/telnet from crashing yesterday, but apparently it doesn't do so anymore18:16
svanderveldtor sth is wrong offcourse :P18:17
maikooolgive the ln -s a try, that will at least make sure it really ist lipstick causing it18:17
svanderveldtmaikoool: will do18:17
svanderveldtmaikoool: That's basically systemctl mask lipstick18:18
maikooolnot really18:18
maikooolsystemctl mask lipstick will ln -s /dev/null /etc/systemd/system/lipstick.service18:18
maikooolbut lipstick is a user service18:18
maikooolso su nemo; systemctl --user mask lipstick18:18
maikooolso the ln -s is more quickly (if time is short cause telnet breaks after x seconds)18:19
maikooolalso systemctl mask takes a while on my phones, the ln -s is instant18:19
svanderveldtmaikoool: Ah, sorry, missed the user part18:20
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mal-sledges: just wondering why warehouse is not in :common when all sorts of stuff is18:38
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svanderveldtmal-: It seems like it's not crashing anymore, probably because of ln -s /dev/null /etc/systemd/user/lipstick.service.18:51
svanderveldtmal-: sledges Both EGL_PLATFORM test_hwcomposer and EGL_PLATFORM=hwcomposer /usr/lib/qt5/bin/qmlscene -platform hwcomposer main.qml work when run as root.18:52
mal-svanderveldt: try as normal user18:52
svanderveldtmal- sledges Work as in, they show an image on the display18:52
mal-svanderveldt: still image?18:53
svanderveldtI don't know if it's the correct one18:53
svanderveldtmal-: yeah, both18:53
svanderveldtmal-: although I though minimer moved a little18:53
mal-svanderveldt: they should show something moving18:53
svanderveldtmal-: both of them?18:54
mal-yes, test_hwcomposer should show a rotating spiral and minimer a rotating mer logo18:54
svanderveldtmal-: The strace from both of them is still pretty much the same, no /system libs (I believe you expected those to be used)18:54
svanderveldtmal-: That's definitely not happening at the moment18:55
mal-is /system normal now with the android stuff?18:55
svanderveldtmal-: yeah it is, contains the stuff from CM18:56
svanderveldtI could do a proper flash instead of multirom and see if it makes a difference18:56
mal-svanderveldt: check the line 61 in faq18:57
svanderveldtmal-: That seems to match my situation, will try18:58
mal-svanderveldt: this patch should be enough according to that
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svanderveldtmal-: S4 has a lot in common with find5, so could very well be it19:00
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sledgesmal-: ask alin:)19:07
* sledges afks19:07
mal-I think the key to that hang problem might be related to this in the TARGET_DISPLAY_USE_RETIRE_FENCE := true19:09
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svanderveldtmal-: The patch works, at least for minimer, FPS: 60Hz, image stays in the top left corner, rotates and zooms19:16
svanderveldtmal-: test_hwcomposer doesn't seem to care and gives only a static image19:17
Stskeepssvanderveldt: there's actually a bit of a story behind that one.. we were sitting at a starbucks in berlin and hacking away in virtualbox on a qt5 based wayland setup19:17
mal-svanderveldt: good news, try lipstick next19:18
Stskeepsand we needed something to show off that it was actually performing decently and stress test it19:18
Stskeepsand we came up with minimer19:18
Stskeepsit then became the litmus test for testing any device's gfx pipeline, so it's a joyful moment any time that one shows up :)19:18
mal-good story :)19:18
svanderveldtStskeeps: :) A new kind of "Hello World!"19:18
Stskeepsit was also the first demo we ran for libhybris working19:19
svanderveldtStskeeps: it works better on my non working device than test_hwcomposer, so I'm happy with it ;)19:22
svanderveldtmal-: starting lipstick gives me this "This application failed to start because it could not find or load the Qt platform plugin "xcb"."19:23
mal-svanderveldt: how did you try to start it?19:25
svanderveldtmal-: just using EGL_PLATFORM=hwcomposer lipstick19:25
mal-svanderveldt: the patch you applied only affect minimer and lipstick etc, not test_hwcomposer19:25
mal-svanderveldt: just a moment I'll give the correct way19:26
svanderveldtmal-: k, thx!19:26
mal-EGL_PLATFORM=hwcomposer QT_QPA_PLATFORM=hwcomposer /usr/bin/lipstick -plugin evdevtouch:/dev/input/event2 -plugin evdevkeyboard:keymap=/usr/share/qt5/keymaps/droid.qmap19:27
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mal-svanderveldt: replace event2 with the correct device19:27
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mal-you can get that by cat /dev/input/eventX and touch the keyboard, try all X until you find it19:28
locusfor just /system/bin/getevent19:29
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mal-locusf: ok, didn't know about that19:29
svanderveldtmal-: it should be event219:29
svanderveldtlocusf: yeah indead, did that from Android to check :)19:30
mal-svanderveldt: depends on the device19:30
svanderveldtmal-: Yeah, but I checked before in Android19:30
locusfsvanderveldt: ok :)19:32
svanderveldtAh, but it's 3 here :P19:32
locusfStskeeps: cool story :)19:32
mal-svanderveldt: ok19:32
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svanderveldtmal-: Do I need user@100000 for it to work?19:33
mal-svanderveldt: not sure19:34
mal-svanderveldt: did it fail?19:34
svanderveldtmal-: it's missing dbus19:34
locusf looks familiar :)19:34
mal-svanderveldt: then unmask user@100000 and start it19:34
svanderveldtmal-: Hmm, stil the same error19:37
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dr_gogeta86locusf, needs some love ...19:38
mal-svanderveldt: you did start the user@100000 service?19:39
svanderveldtmal-: yes, it's running but has some errors as well19:40
mal-svanderveldt: what errors?19:40
mal-svanderveldt: are you trying to run lipstick as root?19:40
svanderveldtmal-: yes I am19:40
mal-svanderveldt: don't19:40
svanderveldtthat's probably supposed to be :P19:41
locusfdr_gogeta86: it got some, its a 2 year old video now :)19:41
mal-svanderveldt: those errors are normal when lipstick is not running19:41
mal-svanderveldt: ssh in as nemo19:41
dr_gogeta86i think performace is worst now rather two years ago19:41
svanderveldtmal-: OK, kinda expected that19:41
svanderveldtmal-: output when run as nemo
mal-reboot your device and try again, have you masked lipstick?19:43
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svanderveldtmal-: /run/user/100000/dconfig is owner by root, maybe because I tried from root first?19:45
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svanderveldt*is owned19:47
mal-svanderveldt: could be19:49
mal-it should be owned by nemo19:49
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mal-svanderveldt: stop user@100000 and remove those files and try reboot after that19:50
mal-if you can19:50
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mal-or change the owner and group19:52
svanderveldtmal-: done, changed owner:group and rebooted, it's doing a lot of stuff but still ends in a segfault
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simonvanderveldtand then my laptop crashed :P19:56
mal-simonvanderveldt: get a gdb backtrace of that crash19:57
mal-simonvanderveldt: were the owners of the other files in /run/user/100000/ ok?19:58
simonvanderveldtmal-: gdb is installing20:01
simonvanderveldtmal-: No, there were multiple wrong owners, I've rm'd the whole dir and rebooted20:02
simonvanderveldthmm, is down20:03
mal-are you sure network is setup properly?20:04
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simonvanderveldtProbably not :P20:06
simonvanderveldtnameserver was screwed, issue over here at the moment :x20:07
simonvanderveldtmal-: should I try to start lipstick normally and then get a bt or how do I make sure I get the debugging info?20:09
simonvanderveldtmal-: output from bt here
simonvanderveldtMissing debugging symbols20:16
mal-try to install those20:16
simonvanderveldtmal-: All of em? That's a lot :P20:21
mal-simonvanderveldt: not all20:30
mal-simonvanderveldt: I think gdb should tell you something about what's needed?20:31
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simonvanderveldtmal-: gdb does, but it's useless, like Try: zypper install -C "debuginfo(build-id)=0a0ed533c54ca1567a835ed6e0fdd4e2b2e49ef0". I did install lipstick-qt5-debuginfo but it's not picking that up20:32
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simonvanderveldtminimer also works as a regular user btw :)20:39
simonvanderveldtI'm off guys, have a nice evening20:39
mal-simonvanderveldt: those all should work as regular user20:39
mal-we are getting closer to working graphics20:40
simonvanderveldtmal-: Yeah, tiny steps, but progress nonetheless :)20:42
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nh1402jolla tablet article is on the front page of phonearena!21:05
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kido do these errors remind someone of something? the fact that dmesg talks about a fence reminds me of sledges' qt5-qpa-hwcomposer-plugin mako-fence-leak branch but I don't know if it's related21:43
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sledgeskido: for fence leaks check here:
merbot`Nemo bug 854 in Hybris-ing "[mako][n7100] lipstick/apps crash on cm11 base" [Critical,New]21:46
sledgesbut for that lipstick should already be up21:46
kidothanks :)21:46
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mal-sledges: it seems warehouse fails to build on obs21:50
UmeaboyCan someone please explain to me why Sailfish only can be runned by one user?21:50
Umeaboysledges: ^^21:50
UmeaboyAnd there's no such thing as an App Sandbox in Sailfish.21:51
kidothe mako fence leak seems to be a different problem21:56
sledgesUmeaboy: find me android phone with multiple users21:56
sledgesUmeaboy: find me a linux distro with app sandboxes21:57
Umeaboysledges: All the phones that run Cyanogenmod does that. :)21:57
Umeaboysledges: OSX. ;)21:57
kidoUmeaboy: OSX is a linux distro? ;)21:57
UmeaboyOSX is based on BSD.21:57
kidoand is BSD a linux distro?21:57
UmeaboyBSD uses the Linux kernel.21:58
UmeaboyTry OpenBSD.21:58
UmeaboyOr FreeBSD.21:58
UmeaboyAnd you can enable many things that's Linux-related in OSX.21:58
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UmeaboyNot ALL, but many.21:58
kidoI think you messed up some of your UNIX knowledge :D21:58
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sledgesit's Umeaboy :) welcome back btw!21:59
UmeaboyStill not finished with the guide.22:00
sledgesme neither:D22:00
UmeaboyI'd be happy if I could get some help.22:00
sledgeswell, new version of guide is soon out22:00
UmeaboyMaking is less "cluttery".22:00
sledgesi'll change the flow and clean up, and make modular22:00
UmeaboyAny preview images?22:00
sledgesyou'll be the first to get them :D22:00
sledgesto check for errors:)22:00
UmeaboyThanks. :)22:01
sledgesUmeaboy: we're having jfltexx nearly ready to the UI22:02
UmeaboyAnything made for the Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact yet?22:03
UmeaboyWhere's the info?22:03
UmeaboyOK, but isn't there a big difference between the phone and the phablet version of it?22:06
sledgesah tablet22:07
sledgeswell, at least it means it's not impossible;)22:07
UmeaboyIs the user that made the progress here?22:08
sledgesyes: maikoool and locusf22:12
sledgesmaikoool just released his first image for his backup phone - xperia sp22:12
sledgesso he can use sailfish on that whilst continuing porting to z3c :D22:12
UmeaboyAnything I can offer from my Tab that might be of use?22:14
UmeaboyAny information......22:14
UmeaboyBtw.......where do "we" store the list of APN's?22:14
UmeaboyFor preloading.22:14
alinUmeaboy: /var/lib/ofono/22:15
Umeaboyalin: Yeah, but for Cyanogenmod they have them stored in the blobs in an xml-file.22:15
UmeaboyDo we have something similar?22:17
alinUmeaboy: good to them22:17
sledgesyes, grep your rootfs22:17
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Umeaboysledges: No, I meant........It should be possible to get a list of usable APN's to use if the APN settings doesn't work.22:18
UmeaboyMy carrier changed mine.22:18
sledgesit's stored inside xml or some conf to22:18
sledgesor sqlite22:18
sledgesjust needs looking22:18
sledgescan't tell off the top of my head22:18
UmeaboyNothing on github for Sailfish OS?22:19
sledgesi don't know ^^22:19
sledgesfind the file22:19
sledgesdo rpm -qf on that file22:19
sledgesfind the package22:19
sledgesfind its source22:19
UmeaboyYes, but until I have the actual Jolla Tablet I can't do that. ;)22:20
sledgestablet is not cellular22:20
sledgesUmeaboy: take any image for any phone what we port here22:24
sledgesextract it22:24
sledgesgrep for operator AONs22:25
sledgesand tell us in which file they are22:25
sledgesthen we'll do rpm -qf for you on that file22:25
sledgesif you don't have a phone:)22:25
sledgesif there's a will, there's a way:)22:25
Umeaboysledges: For carrier has TWO APN's to use.22:26
UmeaboyOne is used for Tablets and the other is used for Phones.22:26
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sledgesUmeaboy: entering by hand will always work :P22:27
Umeaboysledges: Yes, but Cyanogenmod have prewritten ones to search and use straight away.22:28
UmeaboyIt saves time. ;)22:28
sledgeshonestly, we have much bigger tasks than this ;) best is to opensource such packages and let you patch them22:30
sledgeswhich may be one of the tasks we are on22:30
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kidoit woorks!!! :D22:30
sledgeskido: what was the problem?22:31
sledgesaaand.. photosession time? :D22:31
kidoyes of course! :D22:31
sledgeshow cool is that :D22:31
sledgessailfish on an  lg g watch :D22:31
kidohwcomposer used mdmcomp which I had to disable22:31
kidohold on for a sec I put back the mer logo to minimer22:32
kidoI changed it because I thought it was too large22:32
sledgesno lipstick yet ;)22:32
kidonop because I based my work upon a very old lipstick demo which doesn't work22:32
kidosome QML are missing22:32
sledgesi see:)22:32
kidoI will try to compile glacier or colorfulhome later22:32
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sledgeslocusf and the rest of glacier team will be up in heavens:)22:33
kidothat's the least I could do to thank that community :)22:34
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kido :)22:36
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sledgesholy macarony :D22:37
sledgesStskeeps can have double martini for tonight then :D22:37
sledgeskido: could you tweet?22:37
kidothe mer logo is distorded as hell because of the square screen but it's a great proof of concept :)22:37
sledgesvery much so:)22:37
kidosledges: yep I'm gonna do that :) that's the occasion to revive my old twitter account22:37
sledges;) cool!22:37
kidoStskeeps: keep one martini for me22:37
sledgeskido: when you're ready:)22:42
kidosledges: tweet is uploading22:44
kidoand I made a mistake in the text haha22:45
sledgesdidn't notice;)22:46
sledgesstill can't find it 8{22:46
sledgesit's late :D22:46
kidoahah np I think it could have been "introduce you the first free" instead of "introduce you to the first free" but it's not a problem22:47
sledgessounds more personal22:48
sledgesi like the way it is :D22:48
sledgeswe always say "your Jolla"22:48
kidoalright that's cool then :D22:49
UmeaboyDo you guys know if there are any plans to make a future Jolla phone or tablet with parts that you can upgrade yourself?22:49
UmeaboyLike the Ara project.22:49
UmeaboyInstead of just buying the whole thing again.22:50
UmeaboyWe should care about the environment more nowadays since we're now living on lended natural resources.22:51
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ahoneybunholy crap sledges22:53
ahoneybunLG G Watch port!22:53
UmeaboyI'm not saying that we should stop making phones. I'm just saying that we could use the same material again and again and again until it's completely used out.22:54
UmeaboyJust upgrading the inner parts is good enought.22:54
sledgesUmeaboy: it's a challenge from hardware perspective22:54
sledgesand low level drivers22:54
sledgesahoneybun: hell yeah!:D22:54
ahoneybundoes it have any uses?22:54
UmeaboyI do know that Jolla has planned to make a new phone with larger size, but that wouldn't be more than 5 inch.22:55
ahoneybunlike will it still be a watch? lol22:55
sledgeskido: shared here:
kidosledges: thank you :)22:55
ahoneybunI'm not sure the need of changing the design to much right Umeaboy?22:55
maikooolz3 tablet22:55
kidoI should revive my google + account now ahah :D22:56
maikooolthat watch is also very, very awesome22:56
ahoneybunmaikoool: making me want to buy a xperia sp lol22:56
maikooolIIRC you said there was no CM or AOSP for the watch?22:56
Umeaboysledges: I just made a request to add you to my circles on Google+.22:56
UmeaboyJust so you know.22:56
maikooolahoneybun: xperia sp isnt the only supported device ;)22:57
ahoneybunyea true22:57
ahoneybunbut the N5 is the best supported22:57
maikooolbut that's not sailfish related22:57
Umeaboymaikool: Hi!22:58
maikooolhi ;)22:58
ahoneybunsledges: should talk with the KDE people about that smartwatch thing22:58
UmeaboyI'm Kristoffer. Nice to meet you. ;)22:58
kidoahoneybun: well if you're interested about my Asteroid Project you can keep track of it on github and irc :)22:59
ahoneybunkido: I have a LG G Watch btw so yea I'm interested22:59
Umeaboymaikoool: Could you provide me with the exact steps that enabled you to run Sailfish on the Z3?22:59
UmeaboyI have the Z3 Compact Tablet myself.22:59
UmeaboyA.k.a Scorpion.23:00
maikooolmost of its herer23:00
maikooolsry, back in 3023:00
maikooolping me with queustiong23:00
maikoooli'll try to answer them if needed23:00
kidoawesome ! :) there are still some hacky bits than I need to vanish because this demo is really recent however you might soon be able to try it on your watch!23:00
* maikoool is back to cs:go23:00
ahoneybunkido: what can we do with the project so far?23:01
kidonot much for now23:01
kidoit can vibrate and run QML demos haha23:01
sledgesUmeaboy: added back:)23:01
kidothat's just the beggining of the project23:01
ahoneybunI should it to a KDE guy and he thinks it is cool23:03
ahoneybunwith Qt5 lol23:03
kidoof course it's cool!23:04
sledgesgood night everyone!23:04
sledges2 ports today \o/23:05
kidogood night sledges and once again thank you very much for your support!23:05
sledgeslet's hope for Samsung Galaxy S4 tomorrow rising up ;)23:05
sledgeskido: keep up the good work!23:05
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maikoooli've been sceptic about smartwatches23:45
maikooolbut is it runs sailfish, i might even buy one, some day23:46
maikooolbtw: not sure if anyone here knows the answer to this, but i'll ask it anyway23:51
maikooolthe mer wiki homepage also lists plasma active as a frontend23:52
maikooolbut as far as i can work out, the plasma active project has been renamed to plasma mobile23:52
maikooolbut plasma mobile is based on ubuntu23:52
maikooolwhich (please correct me if i'm wrong) is based on bionic/android23:52
maikooollike firefox os23:53
maikooolto be honest, the seadot project doenst list much information, so that's probably not production ready23:53
maikooolso that leaves nemo and sailfish (and tizen? is that still based on mer?)23:54
maikooolwhat's the difference between sailfish and nemo?23:54
kidoI don't think tizen is based on mer23:55
kidoand I believe ubuntu doesn't use bionic like firefox os does, they use libhybris with an android LXC container23:56
maikooolubuntu doesnt use bionic?23:56
UmeaboyDoes the Chromecast run Sailfish OS to?23:56
kidoI'm glad to learn that people would buy smartwatches if they had an open platform :)23:57
maikooolwell just to play with23:57
kidosure, that's the whole point ;)23:57
maikooolno fun in playing with something made entirely for shouting at23:57
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kidomaily done for fun!23:57
maikoooleg: google voice activated nsa stuff23:57
maikoooli've just always had many interest in alternative operating systems23:58
maikooolafter almost fully switching to linux23:58
maikooolit was bound that my phone followed23:58
maikoooland thus so must a smartwatch be23:58
maikooolif i'll ever buy one23:59
kidoand I believe the difference between sailfish and nemo is the user experience, nemo uses the open source glacier where sailfish uses the closed lipstick-jolla-home23:59
maikooolbased on gnu/linux23:59
maikooolah, so the silica stuff is the main difference?23:59
maikooolits listed here as well that ubuntu uses libhybris23:59
kidosomeone could correct me if I am wrong but yes it seems to be the only difference23:59

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