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| bobsummerwill | Hey porters! | 01:34 |
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| bobsummerwill | So I have just got hold of a Samsung Gear S2 smartwatch. It is a really nice bit of kit. | 01:34 |
| bobsummerwill | See http://www.tizenexperts.com/2015/10/gear-s2-samsung-have-really-nailed-it-this-time/ | 01:34 |
| bobsummerwill | The only problem is that is running the wrong OS. | 01:35 |
| bobsummerwill | http://www.engadget.com/2015/07/22/tizen-the-emperor-has-no-clothes/ | 01:35 |
| bobsummerwill | I know that @javispedro (http://javispedro.com/) did some work on Qt for the Gear 2 a year and a bit ago. | 01:36 |
| bobsummerwill | And we had a few threads about BlueZ changes on Tizen | 01:37 |
| bobsummerwill | And about the fact that the source code which Samsung gave you for it was not complete and/or not matching the binaries | 01:38 |
| bobsummerwill | And that the bluetooth protocol (SAP) was proprietary, etc. | 01:38 |
| bobsummerwill | And that Javier looked at building a "Gear Manager" for Sailfish and concluded it wasn't possible. | 01:38 |
| bobsummerwill | And I know that Carsten has mentioned to me before difficulties of porting Sailfish to Tizen devices because of the Tizen weirdness. | 01:39 |
| bobsummerwill | Which makes it much harder than for Android, where a lot of effort has already been applied around libhybris, etc. | 01:40 |
| bobsummerwill | Bearing all of that in mind ... | 01:40 |
| bobsummerwill | I think this would be a very fun project. The hardware ROCKS. | 01:40 |
| bobsummerwill | So maybe muggins here will end up trying to do it. | 01:40 |
| bobsummerwill | I'm just looking for any kind of feedback people might have on the size/complexity of such a project. | 01:41 |
| bobsummerwill | And what kind of steps I would need to follow. | 01:41 |
| bobsummerwill | I'm assuming it would be analogous to the process for Android ports, but harder. | 01:41 |
| bobsummerwill | So what shape would it have? What kind of phases could I expect? | 01:41 |
| bobsummerwill | Should I just give up now? Is it pointless? Impossibly hard? | 01:42 |
| bobsummerwill | Where do I start? | 01:42 |
| bobsummerwill | Requesting the source code? | 01:42 |
| bobsummerwill | Let me do that now. | 01:42 |
| bobsummerwill | Thanks in advance for any guidance you might have. | 01:43 |
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| bobsummerwill | I asked some questions RE potential Gear S2 porting, and then my IRC window died. | 04:54 |
| stephg | bobsummerwill: they're all here in the backlog :) | 04:55 |
| bobsummerwill | I'm back now. Was there any reply? I so, please could somebody cut-and-paste is again? Thanks! | 04:55 |
| bobsummerwill | How do I view the backlog? | 04:55 |
| stephg | sadly no (everyone is asleep in Europe still) | 04:55 |
| stephg | this channel may be logged, hang on let me look | 04:55 |
| stephg | bobsummerwill: http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos-porters/ | 04:55 |
| bobsummerwill | Thanks for the link stephg. So no reply yet. | 04:57 |
| bobsummerwill | One more link to add ... javier's "Experimental daemon to connect with Samsung's Gear smartwatches." | 04:58 |
| bobsummerwill | https://git.javispedro.com/cgit/sapd.git/ | 04:58 |
| bobsummerwill | I will point him here too. | 04:58 |
| stephg | give it a couple of hours and folks will wake up | 04:59 |
| stephg | (clocks have just changed here too so everyone is back to being the normal offset from you too again) | 04:59 |
| bobsummerwill | No problem. Bed time for me here on Pacific Time soon too :-) | 05:01 |
| bobsummerwill | Thanks. | 05:01 |
| stephg | hehe, no probs | 05:01 |
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| locusf | bobsummerwill: interesting | 06:54 |
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| Stskeeps | bobsummerwill: the first step is always to get own kernel running and own root file system | 06:55 |
| locusf | bobsummerwill: AsteroidOS is doing a free software distribution for smartwatches | 06:55 |
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| locusf | yep | 06:55 |
| Stskeeps | bobsummerwill: the problem with tizen is however that their arm drivers are softfp and sailfishos is hardfp | 06:55 |
| Stskeeps | not to mention their lack of wayland | 06:55 |
| locusf | ouch | 06:56 |
| Stskeeps | ironically the gear 1 with it's android build is more suited | 06:56 |
| locusf | is this true on gear s 2 as well? | 06:56 |
| Stskeeps | no, that's full tizen there | 06:56 |
| Stskeeps | no android | 06:56 |
| locusf | wrt hardfp vs softfp | 06:57 |
| locusf | too slow typing :) | 06:57 |
| Stskeeps | probably yes | 06:57 |
| locusf | mer itself however isn't hardfp? | 06:58 |
| Stskeeps | it has both | 06:58 |
| Stskeeps | but hardfp is needed for sailfish blobs | 06:59 |
| Stskeeps | asteroidos may be better from pov that they use yocto for this and built from scratch in full oss.. | 06:59 |
| locusf | exactly | 06:59 |
| locusf | err openembedded, which of course does imply yocto but :p | 07:13 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 07:24 |
| tbr | yeah I run yocto linux, openembedded distro, built using Poky :> | 07:25 |
| locusf | :p | 07:25 |
| * tbr likes to call it YÖP | 07:25 | |
| tbr | for my projects I prefer the YÖÅ flavour though, also it gives finns nightmares if they try to pronounce the acronym | 07:26 |
| locusf | LOL | 07:33 |
| locusf | Å == Ångström? | 07:33 |
| tbr | yes | 07:34 |
| tbr | aka Angst-ROM, a pun at all the distro emo kids | 07:35 |
| locusf | hahahah | 07:35 |
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| mac_ | hello evryone. first time build HAL for sailfish. i am reading instruction on page 12 "Ensure you are able to open a shell in the Mer SDK before moving on." | 08:01 |
| mac_ | what does this mean? | 08:01 |
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| mac_ | any one? | 08:13 |
| bobsummerwill | Thanks for the feedback. Guys. --> https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/658194461034311680 | 08:14 |
| locusf | bobsummerwill: sure np, also join #asteroid here in FreeNode :) | 08:16 |
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| kido | Hey ;) just to mention that openembedded doesn't imply yocto, OE is just the build system, yocto is a huge package made from different projets by the linux foundation | 08:21 |
| kido | Asteroid uses OE without any bit of poky (from yocto) or Ångström for example. Anyway, what's up here it's been a while? :) | 08:23 |
| locusf | kido: ah ok :) | 08:25 |
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| Nokius | mac_: are u able to enter the Mer sdk by typing sdk ? | 08:36 |
| Nokius | btw. morning | 08:36 |
| tbr | kido: yocto is an umbrella project, oe is the build system, Ångström, Poky, Asteroid are distributions | 08:38 |
| kido | Exactly ;) | 08:38 |
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| Nokius | :( repo sync gave up over night | 08:45 |
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| Nokius | forcing did help :( | 08:56 |
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| elfio | !seen refa | 10:21 |
| merbot | elfio: refa was last seen in #sailfishos-porters 3 weeks, 0 days, 11 hours, 20 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <refa> How to see if the sensor workng or not? | 10:21 |
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| elfio | Moto G port has stoped :( | 10:26 |
| elfio | anybody knows anything about refa? I hope he's ok | 10:27 |
| linuxct | Good morning guys, I need some help to port Mer to the Xperia M2. | 10:27 |
| linuxct | I just received the following error: error: in `sync --fetch-submodules`: revision refs/tags/android-5.1.1_r1 in platform/prebuilts/clang/linux-x86/3.1 not found. Does anyone know why? | 10:28 |
| linuxct | At what time is this channel most active? lol | 11:03 |
| mal- | well sometimes people might be doing other things on a weekend | 11:06 |
| mal- | linuxct: retrying repo sync fails always with the same error? | 11:08 |
| linuxct | Always with that error | 11:09 |
| linuxct | I can link the sources if needed, I think the problem can be there.. | 11:12 |
| mal- | what sources do you mean? | 11:12 |
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| linuxct | The ones used for CM12.1 for my device | 11:17 |
| r0kk3rz | linuxct: post your manifest to a pastebin | 11:18 |
| linuxct | (local_manifest) https://github.com/erikcas/local_manifest/blob/5.1-3.4/local.xml | 11:18 |
| r0kk3rz | linuxct: yeah dont reuse other manifests | 11:18 |
| r0kk3rz | make your own, starting with device and kernel repos, and keep adding missing things until it stops complaining | 11:19 |
| linuxct | okay, I'll try. thanks. | 11:19 |
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| linuxct | Okay, i only left my kernel and device specific repos, and this is what I get... error: Cannot fetch platform/prebuilts/clang/linux-x86/x86/3.3 || error: Cannot fetch platform/external/freetypeMiB || error: Cannot fetch platform/external/libogg || error: Cannot fetch platform/prebuilts/gcc/darwin-x86/arm/arm-eabi-4.849 || error: Cannot fetch platform/external/genext2fs | 11:37 |
| linuxct | Those are all the errors thrown while making the repo sync | 11:37 |
| linuxct | now I can't run again repo sync, shows the same errors as before.. | 11:38 |
| r0kk3rz | linuxct: bit weird that these are being thrown by repo sync, and not whilst compiling | 11:41 |
| r0kk3rz | linuxct: but you will need to find what provides those things, and add them to your manifest i would guess | 11:41 |
| linuxct | r0kk3rz: okay. I'll also try to contact the CM device mantainers for eagle and ask if they have any idea why this happens. Thanks | 11:43 |
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| linuxct | r0kk3rz: I solved it, I resetted my installation and now seems to work. Very weird... | 12:45 |
| r0kk3rz | well there you go | 12:46 |
| nh1402 | what is the lowest supported CM base? | 12:46 |
| r0kk3rz | nh1402: cm10.1 | 12:46 |
| nh1402 | r0kk3rz: thanks, working on the android app that'll provide input for Android from Sailfish, just want to make sure I cover the lowest level in case someone wants to try it on their ported device. | 12:48 |
| nh1402 | setting up the android project with minimum required sdk level | 12:49 |
| r0kk3rz | nh1402: im not sure there are that many cm10 ports still around | 12:50 |
| r0kk3rz | anyone actively developing would most likely have moved to cm11 by now | 12:51 |
| nh1402 | isn't the nexus 4 still on CM10 | 12:52 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 12:52 |
| nh1402 | is that the only phone thats actively used still based on CM10 or are there others | 12:53 |
| nh1402 | like the galaxy nexus | 12:53 |
| r0kk3rz | not sure really, i dont think we have any good statistics on what is in use 'out there' | 12:57 |
| r0kk3rz | nexus 5 is the main one ive heard about people actually using as a daily | 12:58 |
| r0kk3rz | rather than just an experiment | 12:58 |
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| carepack | n4 is sill on cm10. | 13:08 |
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| mal- | I use my xperia pro with my second sim card all the time | 13:17 |
| nh1402 | the app should still work on lower levels I think. getevent and adb input has been used for sometime | 13:17 |
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| nh1402 | is eventX always the same, or does it change at boot | 13:59 |
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| nh1402 | interesting, eventX stays the same but if I use systemctl-user stop lipstick instead of kill -stop [pid of lipstick] then the power button works, and CM seems to be a bit more stable, but ssh connection breaks both via wifi and via usb | 15:11 |
| nh1402 | yangm: ^ | 15:13 |
| nh1402 | wifi also seems to work although it wasn't connecting to my router yesterday | 15:14 |
| nh1402 | nope still getting authentication problems, although it must be CM's fault, there's nothing wrong with my router | 15:19 |
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| Nokius | so a good weekend ends with a run of make hybris-hal for a new target :D | 21:45 |
| mal- | :) | 21:52 |
| mal- | I was supposed to build some new images but ended up working | 21:52 |
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| Nokius | mal-: same here I wanted to be fare by now, but now first PGP user in my family \o/ | 22:12 |
| Nokius | :( make is falling | 22:14 |
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| Nokius | gn8! | 22:19 |
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