Sunday, 2016-04-17

corvinuxthis is http://paste2.org/k36zxsdm from this logfile /home/corvinux/mer/devel/mer-hybris/ngfd-plugin-droid-vibrator.log00:03
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adeen-smorning.04:26
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mal-corvinux: I've heard about that problem but haven't encountered it myself05:46
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adeen-sMaybe we can have Android apps on ported devices.06:08
adeen-shttp://www.techdrivein.com/2015/07/shashlik-project-bringing-android-apps-to-linux.html06:10
NeKit2015-0706:28
NeKitnow we have sfdroid on ported devices :)06:28
adeen-s"now we have sfdroid on nexus4/5 :) " FTFY06:31
NeKitnot only06:32
adeen-sIt can be ported to other devices but its got a lot of issues on other devices as of now.06:33
adeen-sNekit: Have you got a device running SFOS right now ?06:34
NeKitshashlik so far runs Android kernel in KVM and uses OpenGL transport of Android SDK emulator06:34
NeKitadeen-s, I have it partly running on my tablet06:35
adeen-shttp://www.shashlik.io/what-is/ <-- try this and if you end up with a deb package after making, try converting it to rpm.06:36
adeen-sWhat do you mean partly ?06:36
NeKithardware support06:37
adeen-sWhat isn't workng ?06:37
StskeepsNeKit: really? thats news to me06:37
Stskeepslast time around they built android for glibc with cmake06:38
NeKitit seems they dropped the idea06:39
NeKitQemu fork06:39
NeKitAs the name suggests this contains a fork of the android emulator from the SDK.06:39
NeKitIt is modified to show the window icon and title of the app we’re running, not look like an emulator.06:39
adeen-sOpenGL and graphics are all rendered on the host as of the latest version.06:39
NeKitadeen-s, better to ask what's working, since it's just graphics on Mesa, touch and Wi-Fi06:39
adeen-sNekit: that sounds oddly familiar to me. What device is that ?06:40
NeKitCube iWork8 Ultimate06:40
adeen-sI got similar issues but i also got audio working :P06:41
NeKitwhat is the device?06:41
adeen-sGalaxy Tab2 (p3100)06:41
StskeepsNeKit: talk about a u-turn..06:42
adeen-shas anyone actually tried building shashlik for Sailfish ?06:43
NeKitI'm not sure it will be useful in current form for archs other than x8606:44
adeen-sCheck the Compiling section on this page ->http://www.shashlik.io/what-is/06:45
adeen-sI think it would be just like building droidmedia for a device.06:45
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NeKitI mean that since it runs Android in VM, it needs to be modified to run Android in chroot on Sailfish or something like this, plus it does OpenGL ES translation to OpenGL the same way as Android SDK emulator06:47
Stskeepsit's not terribly difficult to run android in a container though06:48
adeen-sBut if done, this would be pretty much like AlienDalvik and be more elegant than sfdroid.06:49
NeKitUbuntu Touch does that, right?06:49
NeKit(running Android parts in container)06:50
Stskeepsyeah06:50
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Stskeepsthe hard part is making android run as a runtime06:50
Stskeepswhich is what jolla/sailfish invested into06:50
Stskeepslike, integrate into existing apis etc06:50
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adeen-sStskeeps: You're saying that they tried porting ART as an open-sourced alternative to AlienDalvik ?06:52
Stskeepsadeen-s: rather trying to make android's dalvik+frameworks build as a glibc based thing06:52
Stskeepswhich fwiw isn't so different from original alien dalvik06:52
Stskeepsthe problem is NDK which very rapidily becomes a major headace06:53
Stskeeps+h06:53
Stskeepsthat said, now that we're talking about it, how much would you pay per user for a port of alien dalvik for your ported device?06:53
NeKithow alien dalvik actually works compared to sfdroid or Shashlik?06:54
Stskeepsquite well06:54
Stskeepsit's consumer ready06:54
Stskeepsi use it daily myself for my android app needs06:54
adeen-sStskeeps: I'd rather keep Android away from the scene and hope that developers focus on native apps for it .06:54
Stskeepsadeen-s: sure06:54
Stskeepsbut still :)06:55
Stskeepsadeen-s: sometimes people have these apps they can't live without06:55
NeKitI mean, not quality, but technical principles06:55
StskeepsNeKit: ah, very strong, it's made by the company that originally designed android CTS06:55
NeKit<adeen-s> Stskeeps: You're saying that they tried porting ART as an open-sourced alternative to AlienDalvik ?06:56
NeKit<Stskeeps> adeen-s: rather trying to make android's dalvik+frameworks build as a glibc based thing06:56
NeKit<Stskeeps> which fwiw isn't so different from original alien dalvik06:56
Stskeepsyeah, new alien dalvik is almost pure bionic06:56
Stskeepsthere was no real benefit to it being glibc based06:56
Stskeepsjust more headaches in portability and moving to later android versions06:58
NeKitso it's Android runtime run in container or something completely different?07:01
Stskeepsyeah, and patched quite intensively to actually be a runtime and not a os07:02
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NeKitJolla also tried to pull this off?07:02
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tbrjolla paid for this to be pulled off07:03
Stskeepswhat tbr said07:03
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NeKitI see07:03
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tbrat least mysatrokr.ko is gone :)07:04
NeKitI thought AlienDalvik was made before Sailfish OS and they just licensed it07:04
tbryes07:04
StskeepsNeKit: it kind of was but there's a big difference between productized and made..07:04
tbrbut I'd expect what existed before was more of a tech demo and productization and adaptation took time07:04
tbrnot unusual in the industry, you start with a MVP and then when someone pays for your product, you "integrate" it, which often also means "make it really work properly"07:05
tbrso that again the customer ends up with a MVP07:06
tbrit's MVPs all the way down07:06
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kimmoli(Minimum Viable Product)07:08
kimmoligm07:08
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corvinuxWhile running build_packages.sh, It go terminated with this strange output http://paste2.org/vsecIGV0.07:32
corvinuxWhile running build_packages.sh, It got terminated with this strange output http://paste2.org/vsecIGV0. :)07:34
mal-corvinux: run this and try again sb2 -t $VENDOR-$DEVICE-$PORT_ARCH -R -m sdk-install ssu ar testing2 http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/mal:/testing2/sailfishos_latest_armv7hl/07:36
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corvinuxmal-: I got this http://paste2.org/WCpyXL2g07:43
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corvinuxmal-: Do you think this could be related with ubu-chroot http://images.devaamo.fi/sfe/hammerhead/ubuntu-trusty-android-rootfs-openjdk7.tar.bz2, I am using as suggested by sledges?07:51
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nh1402-mobile_adeen-s_: its not that sfdroid only works on the nexus 5 and 4, its just the only devices we have on hand to actively test with. others have ported or are in the process of porting for the fp2 and a cm12.1 based device which i cant remember. it has akso been ported to the moto g and working.07:53
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* Nokius should give it a try on the scorpion 07:55
sledgescorvinux: it's not an error, if that repo appears in `ssu lr`07:55
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sledgesadeen-s_: nh1402-mobile_: sfdroid is going on motorola moto g 2nd. gen (2014) by Mister_Magister; https://twitter.com/sledgeSim/status/71785028995349708807:56
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nh1402-mobile_Stskeeps: shashlik was built around glibc and cmake when it borrowed code from the gentroid project which did that, then they rebased with 5.1.1 with their own stuff08:01
corvinuxsledges: It appears in ssu lr. http://paste2.org/22byxAg908:05
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corvinuxsledges: I was trying to build ngfd-plugin-droid-vibrator package yesterday and it stopped and nothing happened until I didn't stop the build_packages.sh script. http://paste2.org/k36zxsdm08:13
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corvinuxmal-_: sledges: Have the same issue with ngfd-plugin-droid-vibrator, It just waiting and nothing is happening http://paste2.org/UhaPUUFI. Any ideas?08:22
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kimmolitaaem: morning. alpha08:45
kimmolitaaem: -3 updated08:45
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kimmoliäh08:47
kimmoliMessage: connection-refused: adaptation0: [|] Valid metadata not found at specified URL(s)08:48
kimmoli - adaptation0 ... https://store-repository.jolla.com/releases/2.0.0.10/jolla-hw/adaptation-oneplus-onyx/armv7hl/08:48
sledgescorvinux: search channel logs, know problem, but for got solution08:48
sledgesand i'm afk now08:48
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corvinuxsledges: ok,tnx08:54
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taaemkimmoli: seems like in your .ks you forgot to point adaptation0 to the right URL?09:03
kimmoliyeah...09:03
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kimmolinope09:22
kimmolisledges: ping äh afk09:23
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corvinuxI think, I found out why building of ngfd-plugin-droid-vibrator package is sometimes stopping. I've checked dir  hybris/droid-hal-version-pollux/droid-hal-version/ and there was no hybris/droid-hal-version-pollux/droid-hal-version/droid-hal-version.inc file. After I did git submodule add https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-version, everything is building OK.09:39
corvinuxFinally, the build_packages.sh, ended successfully. http://paste2.org/9EMjtyvw. Thanks everyone for all your help. My Sony Xperia Tablet Z is going to be SFOSed! ;)09:47
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mal-corvinux: let's hope it will boot09:50
taaemsledges: lbt can you patternize nemo:testing:hw:oneplus:onyx?09:52
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NeKitwhat Terminal app can I install on ported device?10:00
mal-doesn't it have such an app by default?10:06
kimmolifingerterm10:12
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NeKithttp://i.imgur.com/mrTxDAHr.jpg13:39
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kimmolihmm.. should we have http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/devel:/hw:/oneplus:/onyx/sailfish_latest_armv7hl/ in repoes? ssu lr13:58
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Andy-DWith the current Fairphone 2 Sailfish alpha, will I need to re-flash the phone later to get updates that fix things like the compass and add android emulation, or will an update manager do that fine?14:02
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kimmolitaaem: ^^ do i add that or testing from ks?14:07
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mal-Andy-D: no, there are ways to update it, not the nicest way but possible, you just need to run some commands on terminal14:14
mal-Andy-D: so no reflashing needed14:14
yangmNeKit, are you running apkenv?14:17
Andy-Dmal-: that's cool, if you can do it without wiping user data14:18
mal-Andy-D: yep, all user created data will remain14:19
Andy-DI don't suppose anyone has tried running android in virtualbox as an alternative to dalvik...?14:19
mal-Andy-D: there is work being done to run android in a window on fp214:20
NeKityangm, sfdroid14:20
mal-kimmoli: you need to run something line this sed -i -e 's|^adaptation=.*$|adaptation=http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/testing:/hw:/lge:/hammerhead/sailfish_latest_armv7hl/|' /usr/share/ssu/repos.ini14:21
mal-kimmoli: after ### end 70_sdk-domain in .ks14:21
mal-kimmoli: or you can run for example ssu ar dhd http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/testing:/hw:/lge:/hammerhead/sailfish_latest_armv7hl/ after ### begin 60_ssu14:22
mal-kimmoli: look at hammerhead .ks for examples14:22
kimmoliok, latter looks cleaner14:23
mal-the former is also good thing to do14:23
mal-it will remove the possibiility for problems with adaptation014:23
mal-I think14:23
kimmoliok hammerhead has ssu ar dhd .., mw ..14:25
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ghosalmartinhow does sfos deal with wakelocks? do they have any power over the os?18:08
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Litewsame question here ^^18:13
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piggzcan anyone explain whats going on here.. https://paste.kde.org/ptgrb6qvd18:35
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ghosalmartinpiggz: i want to take a guess that something didn't build the way it was supposed to18:36
ghosalmartindoes the framework-res_intermediates exist18:36
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piggzghosalmartin: yes, if you look, i do an 'ls' and 'file' command to make sure it is there18:37
ghosalmartinthat is really odd18:38
ghosalmartini take it no errors beforehnad?18:38
piggzghosalmartin: nope ... i found this...18:39
piggzhttps://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=7835418:39
ghosalmartindid a vanilla build work before18:40
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piggzghosalmartin: this is a vinila build of cm12.1, so that i can add sfdroid ... not made any changes yet18:43
ghosalmartinahh18:46
piggzghosalmartin: actually ... i think the apk is empty18:46
piggzit doesnt seem to have any asests18:46
ghosalmartinpiggz: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/android-building/Vb89DGoOH0818:47
ghosalmartinthe guy redownloaded the entire source18:47
ghosalmartinI wouldnt do that18:47
piggzfuck that :D18:47
ghosalmartinbut would force git to download missing files18:47
piggzit took an over-nighter....18:48
piggzi think ive seen that post before too :018:48
piggzi guess i have to find what makes the package, and download that18:48
ghosalmartini'd blame it on the repo tool18:48
ghosalmartinive had similar issues in the past were only a redownload would fix it18:49
ghosalmartinsince its all git repos you can try repo sync -d18:49
ghosalmartinbut am unsure how itll deal with existing files18:49
ghosalmartinalso can try to just delete the build folder and rebuild18:51
piggzhttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/11448864/what-is-the-usage-for-repo-sync-d-in-android-source-repository18:52
piggzi'll give that a go18:52
ghosalmartinokays lemme know how it goes18:53
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NokiusNeKit: nice19:51
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piggzghosalmartin: no joy so far :/20:46
piggzghosalmartin: maybe i'll go to bed and repo init/sync again!20:48
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corvinuxmal-: ping21:11
corvinuxwhat would be workaround for this http://paste2.org/pHGc1fej21:12
sledgestaaaem: for patternity you'll need to wait for lbt to come back in next day21:25
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taaaemsledges: okay np21:26
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ghosalmartinpiggz: good luck22:18
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dr_gogeta86whatsapp ghosalmartin22:19
ghosalmartindr_gogeta86: what about it?22:19
ghosalmartinohh whats up22:19
ghosalmartinnot much just cleaning up some commits for merge22:20
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