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| kimmoli | lbt: same here https://build.merproject.org/project/show/nemo:testing:hw:oneplus:onyx | 03:50 |
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| jja2000 | Is it normal that rpm/ngfd-plugin-droid-vibrator.spec takes so long to compile? | 05:53 |
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| kimmoli | it should not happen, but it just happens. retry if it hangs | 06:29 |
| jja2000 | I've retried multiple times | 06:29 |
| kimmoli | it does not happen to me. well, i dont use droid vibrator anymore. | 06:29 |
| jja2000 | Anything I could replace it with then? | 06:30 |
| kimmoli | just keep retrying, it will build eventually. there might be some tricks to try, search logs of this channel | 06:30 |
| kimmoli | you can replace it with ff-memless vibrator | 06:30 |
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| jja2000 | And how do I do that? | 06:31 |
| kimmoli | hadk has short guide, and iirc faq has pointer to "reference design" | 06:31 |
| jja2000 | Okay I'll check it out | 06:31 |
| jja2000 | thanks | 06:31 |
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| kimmoli | something like this https://github.com/kimmoli/android_kernel_oneplus_msm8974/commit/c6214598244d72767ad346831c8c893a4ebb0e8a | 06:38 |
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| jja2000 | So I just need to change that in the defconfig and recompile+build packages? | 06:51 |
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| kimmoli | jja2000: öö. no. or depends if your device has such kernel driver ready. i wrote that driver based on the original timed driver (what droid-vibra uses). | 09:33 |
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| jja2000 | Oh well, doesn't hurt to try | 10:12 |
| kimmoli | and there was one config flag in hybris to enable vibrator. below that should be USE_MEMLESS or something | 10:13 |
| kimmoli | to enable correct plugins in saiflsih | 10:13 |
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| mal- | I still would first use the default vibrator for first tests unless there is kernel driver ready | 10:15 |
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| jja2000 | mal-, thing is that it doesn't compile | 10:30 |
| jja2000 | at all | 10:30 |
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| mal- | jja2000: it just freezes a lot but will compile eventually | 10:39 |
| mal- | jja2000: or you could try to compile it outside the build_packages.sh | 10:39 |
| jja2000 | eventually as in every time I try or if I leave it frozen for some time? | 10:40 |
| mal- | no point in waiting for it, if it seems frozen then just restart | 10:40 |
| jja2000 | Isn't there some way to get verbose output on it? I'd like to know what the problem is | 10:41 |
| mal- | jja2000: I suggest building it outside the script so you can try multiple times more easily | 10:41 |
| jja2000 | And how does one do that? I can check the build_packages.sh script if needed | 10:41 |
| jja2000 | I'm guessing I should do this: "buildmw qt5-feedback-haptics-droid-vibrator" | 10:45 |
| mal- | look into build_packages.sh and utils.sh | 10:45 |
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| mal- | jja2000: https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-device/blob/master/helpers/util.sh#L121 | 10:46 |
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| ghosalmartin | NotKit: has there been any affects felt by the disabling of libdsyscalls? | 10:59 |
| NotKit | not for me, at least as long as TLS slots are shifted | 11:00 |
| jja2000 | mal-, so I'm just supposed to try and compile it multiple times till it works? | 11:03 |
| jja2000 | is it possibly supposed to be executed with root? | 11:04 |
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| mal- | jja2000: no need for root, you are not running build_packages.sh as root either | 11:05 |
| jja2000 | Okay | 11:05 |
| jja2000 | Is there even a reason for it to freeze so often? You would think that there's a way to fix it if everyone has a problem with it | 11:06 |
| mal- | jja2000: nobody has figured out why it freezes | 11:06 |
| jja2000 | That's odd | 11:07 |
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| ghosalmartin | NotKit: fair enough, I thought leaving _set_errno might have detrimental effects | 11:33 |
| ghosalmartin | also anyone know how I can start nad stop android services | 11:33 |
| NotKit | /system/bin/setprop ctl.start servicename and ctl.stop | 11:34 |
| ghosalmartin | NotKit: ah awesome thnaks | 11:35 |
| NotKit | maybe you will have to prepend LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/system/lib64 | 11:35 |
| ghosalmartin | NotKit: hmm okay | 11:37 |
| ghosalmartin | the issue is logd doesnt start at boot for whatever reason | 11:37 |
| ghosalmartin | but in the init.rc is when the sockets get created | 11:37 |
| ghosalmartin | so if I try to manually debug with strace itll break because the sockets arent created | 11:37 |
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| ghosalmartin | NotKit: i take it you didnt have any issues with logd ending with status 1? | 11:42 |
| jja2000 | Trying to compile it for the third time now | 11:49 |
| jja2000 | wish me luck | 11:49 |
| ghosalmartin | good luck | 11:49 |
| NotKit | ghosalmartin, didn't yet | 11:49 |
| ghosalmartin | do android onrestarts inside init.rc files happen the first time as well? | 11:50 |
| ghosalmartin | also is this normal: [ +0.000153] droid-hal-init: couldn't write 0 to /dev/cpuset/system-background/tasks: No space left on device | 11:52 |
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| jja2000 | ayy it built | 12:02 |
| jja2000 | finally | 12:05 |
| nh1402_work | ghosalmartin: I believe it does happen the first time as well. | 12:09 |
| ghosalmartin | nh1402_work: ahh okay thanks | 12:10 |
| ghosalmartin | when we first boot and run android services, I assume we use their libc and libs? | 12:11 |
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| nh1402_work | ghosalmartin: that I don't know | 12:15 |
| saidinesh5 | does it work jja2000? :P | 12:19 |
| saidinesh5 | jja2000: btw. https://github.com/z3ntu/multirom/commit/0bf8dcb0b34f9552b917e979fd3923a37f1f02f2 fixed my multirom crashing | 12:19 |
| saidinesh5 | need to test out sfos with it.. but my device got no space left! | 12:19 |
| jja2000 | if I run the commands at the beginning of section 8.3 it says that the file doesn't exist, do I need to "touch" it or smth? | 12:20 |
| jja2000 | saidinesh5, ye it built, also gj | 12:20 |
| * saidinesh5 checks | 12:21 | |
| saidinesh5 | jja2000: it gets generated when you do build_packages | 12:23 |
| jja2000 | sed: can't read tmp/Jolla-@RELEASE@-tf700t-@ARCH@.ks: No such file or directory | 12:23 |
| jja2000 | but I did do build_packages | 12:23 |
| saidinesh5 | you typed that file wrong? | 12:23 |
| saidinesh5 | that *line | 12:23 |
| saidinesh5 | sed -e "s|^$HA_REPO.*$|$HA_REPO --baseurl=file://$ANDROID_ROOT/droid-local-repo/$DEVICE|" $ANDROID_ROOT/hybris/droid-configs/installroot/usr/share/kickstarts/$KS \ > tmp/$KS | 12:24 |
| saidinesh5 | so your edited file goes into tmp/ | 12:24 |
| jja2000 | ooo I missed that > | 12:24 |
| jja2000 | thought it was the spawn of \ | 12:24 |
| saidinesh5 | wel ugly edit to make it fit in 1 line here | 12:24 |
| saidinesh5 | add my build functions to your .merprofile jja2000. makes life a lot easier | 12:25 |
| jja2000 | .merprofile? | 12:26 |
| saidinesh5 | https://github.com/saidinesh5/sailfish-build-environment-cancro/blob/master/.mersdk.profile | 12:26 |
| saidinesh5 | that file | 12:26 |
| jja2000 | now it says tmp is a directory xD | 12:27 |
| mal- | saidinesh5: one suggestion for that, add a way to rebuild on package using a similar approach as in build_packages.sh | 12:28 |
| saidinesh5 | mal-: touche. i am actually looking at how to write that function! | 12:29 |
| mal- | *one | 12:29 |
| saidinesh5 | yup | 12:29 |
| saidinesh5 | right now i had to write separate functions for gstdroid and audioflingeerglue | 12:29 |
| mal- | saidinesh5: just look at the util.sh I linked earlier | 12:29 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh | 12:30 |
| jja2000 | sed -e "s|^$HA_REPO.*$|$HA_REPO --baseurl=file://$ANDROID_ROOT/droid-local-repo/$DEVICE|" $ANDROID_ROOT/hybris/droid-configs/installroot/usr/share/kickstarts/$KS > tmp/$KS | 12:32 |
| jja2000 | bash: tmp/: Is a directory | 12:32 |
| jja2000 | :| | 12:32 |
| mal- | saidinesh5: anyway audioflingeerglue and droidmedia are an exception | 12:32 |
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| jja2000 | I like how everytime I do something that is even remotely hard, it just breaks | 12:32 |
| saidinesh5 | yup .. neeeded special patches | 12:32 |
| jja2000 | So, any help? It looks like a basic error | 12:34 |
| saidinesh5 | your $KS is defined? | 12:34 |
| saidinesh5 | echo $KS | 12:34 |
| jja2000 | Do those definitions get deleted every time you close bash? | 12:35 |
| saidinesh5 | naturally | 12:36 |
| saidinesh5 | lol | 12:36 |
| NotKit | <ghosalmartin> when we first boot and run android services, I assume we use their libc and libs? | 12:36 |
| NotKit | true, minus logging libs | 12:36 |
| jja2000 | Yeah that was the problem :/ | 12:37 |
| jja2000 | At least I understand why export exists now | 12:37 |
| mal- | jja2000: the commands listed in HADK are there for a reason | 12:37 |
| jja2000 | mal-, I did do em, but I closed bash by accident | 12:37 |
| jja2000 | Didn't know there was a difference between export *var*= and just *var*= | 12:38 |
| jja2000 | I'm here to learn anyways | 12:38 |
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| ghosalmartin | NotKit: hmm okay thanks | 12:44 |
| jja2000 | Am I supposed to do anything with patterns? | 12:44 |
| ghosalmartin | what stage are you on? | 12:45 |
| saidinesh5 | nah.. just run process_patterns | 12:45 |
| saidinesh5 | just before building his rootfs ghosalmartin | 12:45 |
| ghosalmartin | ah fair enough | 12:46 |
| ghosalmartin | build away | 12:46 |
| nh1402_work | jja2000: the curve of the upper part of a liquid close to the surface of the container is called the meniscus. | 12:47 |
| saidinesh5 | lol nh1402_work. | 12:47 |
| saidinesh5 | is that wrt. "here to learn"? | 12:47 |
| nh1402_work | saidinesh5: exactly, there was a good chance that he/she didn't know that and would learn something. | 12:49 |
| saidinesh5 | lol | 12:49 |
| jja2000 | lol | 12:49 |
| jja2000 | I do know that :> | 12:50 |
| jja2000 | I have chemistry | 12:50 |
| saidinesh5 | :fears: | 12:50 |
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| nh1402_work | unfortunately I don't own a quarter of Science so you've got me there. | 12:51 |
| saidinesh5 | out of curiosity.. do i need to do anything specific to get multirom support for sailfish | 12:52 |
| saidinesh5 | ? | 12:52 |
| nh1402_work | saidinesh5: don't you need to build a certain version of multirom that has inbuilt support? | 12:54 |
| saidinesh5 | nh1402_work.. oh.. any links? i just assumed creating a .mrom file would do | 12:54 |
| nh1402_work | saidinesh5: do you have multirom installed already?, if so which version? | 12:55 |
| saidinesh5 | 33. Just compiled one myself | 12:55 |
| nh1402_work | saidinesh5: that should have support, have you gone into TWRP -> multirom -> install ROM, and selected Sailfish? | 12:57 |
| saidinesh5 | no Sailfish option there.. just Android / Multirom installer | 12:57 |
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| ghosalmartin | am an idiot | 12:58 |
| ghosalmartin | i left selinux enabled | 12:58 |
| nh1402_work | saidinesh5: it was added in version 28, maybe there's flag for sailfish during the compilation process | 12:59 |
| ghosalmartin | oh wait maybe not :P | 12:59 |
| saidinesh5 | Oh... also i had to build a separate fork of multirom to fix some compile time and run time issues.. maybe that's why | 12:59 |
| saidinesh5 | also nh1402_work.. shouldnt the support be in twrp? | 12:59 |
| nh1402_work | I thought multirom has it's own version of TWRP it installs | 13:00 |
| saidinesh5 | had to compile that too :p | 13:00 |
| nh1402_work | maybe that's an old version | 13:01 |
| saidinesh5 | latest version actually | 13:01 |
| saidinesh5 | but it too probably branched out | 13:01 |
| nh1402_work | there is a bug with the latest version where you can't flash zips on top of secondary rom's and/or sailfish roms. | 13:03 |
| saidinesh5 | actually looks like there is another bug. it can't boot the CM 12.1 i just flashed | 13:04 |
| saidinesh5 | "Unknown boardname "cancro"" .. "cannot find /zImage" | 13:04 |
| saidinesh5 | it was booting the primary rom before this | 13:05 |
| saidinesh5 | my primary CM13 works though | 13:06 |
| jja2000 | When setting up scratchbox I never listed a sailfishos version, only a rolling release version. Any idea what RELEASE I should use in section 8.5? | 13:16 |
| saidinesh5 | its probably the latest | 13:17 |
| saidinesh5 | so use RELEASE=2.0.2.51 | 13:17 |
| jja2000 | My guess is 2.0.2.51 | 13:17 |
| jja2000 | Okay thanks | 13:17 |
| saidinesh5 | yup | 13:17 |
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| jja2000 | EXTRA_NAME needs to be whatever name I choose it to be? | 13:18 |
| jja2000 | Like jja2000 | 13:18 |
| mal- | yes, usually something like alpha1 | 13:18 |
| jja2000 | Ah the stage it's in | 13:19 |
| jja2000 | thought it was similar to what cm or aosp does when building the package | 13:19 |
| mal- | it can be anything but that's the most common one for sailfish ports | 13:22 |
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| jja2000 | when trying to build with MIC it says "Invalid runmode: native" | 13:25 |
| jja2000 | When it's in the hadk | 13:26 |
| saidinesh5 | you can remove that option from that line | 13:27 |
| saidinesh5 | delete --runtime=native jja2000 | 13:27 |
| jja2000 | Okay thanks | 13:28 |
| jja2000 | is there a place where you can ask for changes in the hadk? :> | 13:28 |
| jja2000 | Been having a couple of problems with it I guess | 13:28 |
| saidinesh5 | dunno.. but you should always check that hadk faq first | 13:29 |
| saidinesh5 | has a lot of ueful stuff | 13:29 |
| jja2000 | will do | 13:30 |
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| mal- | jja2000: sledges is the person responsible for HADK pdf | 13:44 |
| mal- | jja2000: he knows the bugs probably | 13:45 |
| jja2000 | Let's hope next revision has them included with a fix :P | 13:45 |
| jja2000 | If I edit something in the defconfig and the BoardConfig.mk, what do I need to rebuild? | 13:46 |
| mal- | jja2000: make hybris and then build_packages.sh and so on | 13:47 |
| mal- | *make hybris-hal | 13:47 |
| jja2000 | okay | 13:47 |
| jja2000 | Forgot to turn off se-linux that's why | 13:47 |
| mal- | jja2000: any changes to android repos always need those | 13:47 |
| saidinesh5 | you may need to do a make clean first | 13:47 |
| saidinesh5 | some changes in BoardConfig didnt show up unless i did a make clean | 13:48 |
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| nh1402_work | ghosalmartin: did you sort your problem out? | 13:52 |
| ghosalmartin | nh1402_work: nah gave up :P | 13:52 |
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| horuxan | good morning for all | 13:56 |
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| horuxan | have firefox, chrome or opera for sailfish ? | 13:56 |
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| sledges | jja2000: it will;) | 14:04 |
| jja2000 | Good | 14:04 |
| jja2000 | It's already very well done | 14:04 |
| jja2000 | Most of the questions I ask here are generally of stuff I myself am not sure about | 14:04 |
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| nh1402_work | ghosalmartin: what's next on the list? | 14:40 |
| jja2000 | http://imgur.com/VQBEudw | 14:40 |
| jja2000 | Don't know if anyone posted this before | 14:41 |
| jja2000 | but that happens when build_packages.sh freezes | 14:41 |
| ghosalmartin | nh1402_work: i guess getting android services to start properly | 14:42 |
| nh1402_work | ghosalmartin: why are they moaning? | 15:00 |
| sledges | jja2000: thanks, that doc is a long legacy of teamwork and community's input | 15:06 |
| jja2000 | Tbh it's a lot more consistent and a lot less fragmented than compiling android for example | 15:07 |
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| jja2000 | Finally droid-vibrator built again | 15:14 |
| jja2000 | took at least 10 times | 15:14 |
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| jja2000 | currently flashing my own build | 15:38 |
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| jja2000 | It shows the cyanogenmod bootlogo xD | 15:48 |
| jja2000 | Oh wait I read on and it seems normal | 15:50 |
| jja2000 | nvm | 15:50 |
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| jja2000 | Wait | 15:57 |
| jja2000 | no | 15:57 |
| jja2000 | It just boots into cyanogenmod :| | 15:58 |
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| jja2000 | So yeah, that's currently my problem | 16:03 |
| jja2000 | it doesn't boot | 16:03 |
| jja2000 | It just boots into cyanogenmod | 16:03 |
| ghosalmartin | did you flash sfos ontop? lol | 16:04 |
| jja2000 | I did ye | 16:05 |
| jja2000 | .stowaway seems to be in there | 16:05 |
| ghosalmartin | did it fail for any reason? | 16:05 |
| ghosalmartin | o | 16:05 |
| ghosalmartin | thats really weird | 16:05 |
| ghosalmartin | since the kernel should be flashed as well | 16:05 |
| jja2000 | gonna pull the recovery log and fill you in on the details after I've had dinner | 16:08 |
| mal- | jja2000: maybe the kernel flashing failed | 16:10 |
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| horuxan | mal-, im posted the project in xda | 16:36 |
| jja2000 | I'll check the recovery.log | 16:37 |
| jja2000 | found failed to mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p8 | 16:41 |
| mal- | horuxan: where in there, you know there already was the thread for that port | 16:44 |
| jja2000 | mal-, apart from that^ everything went fine | 16:44 |
| horuxan | my link no found | 16:45 |
| horuxan | one momen | 16:45 |
| horuxan | please | 16:45 |
| horuxan | http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/orig-development/sailfishos-motog-titan-t3465508 | 16:46 |
| horuxan | im posted in place error | 16:46 |
| horuxan | "/// | 16:46 |
| horuxan | how to move | 16:47 |
| horuxan | for development ? | 16:47 |
| mal- | horuxan: this is the original port http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/sailfish-os-t3204245 | 16:48 |
| mal- | horuxan: I still don't understand why you wanted to make a new version and not contribute to the existing one | 16:49 |
| mal- | horuxan: you should give credit to the original ported | 16:49 |
| mal- | *porter | 16:49 |
| horuxan | so I thought I would share the system since helped me and I make the rom public, but if you think I should delete all right. I'm happy with the rom on my smartphone, and lived looking for updates, and the original design not posted, to learn and not depend on the time of others who wanted to carry the rom, and found it mandatory offers. excuse me | 16:50 |
| mal- | not sure what you just said | 16:51 |
| mal- | horuxan: what was wrong with the releases in that link I posted? | 16:51 |
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| horuxan | not understand | 16:52 |
| mal- | horuxan: did you look at the link I gave? | 16:53 |
| horuxan | creditei Mister Magister, and you, if you want deleted the post, all right, but I think enthusiastic people will like the rom. | 16:53 |
| horuxan | im look | 16:53 |
| mal- | horuxan: I really don' | 16:53 |
| horuxan | delete my post ? | 16:53 |
| horuxan | ok, delete my post ? | 16:54 |
| mal- | do what you want | 16:54 |
| mal- | just wondering what was the reason for making new image and not collaborate with Mister_Magister | 16:55 |
| horuxan | mal-, if you think I should delete, say, as you guided me if there is a unique design, I wanted to carry because they had not updates, only talk that deleto now. I do not want to disrupt anything, quite the contrary. | 16:56 |
| horuxan | seen how it responds others? | 16:56 |
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| jja2000 | mal-, when you're done helping horuxan can you help me spit through the recovery log? | 16:57 |
| horuxan | what recovery log ? | 16:58 |
| jja2000 | of my tablet | 16:58 |
| jja2000 | it boots to cm instead of sailfish | 16:58 |
| mal- | horuxan: I think you should have fixed the image so that there would not be need to run the huge amount of commands you listed in the post | 16:59 |
| horuxan | I thought, ugly post too bad I plan to go better, as he said it, it's my first time carrying a system. | 17:00 |
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| mal- | jja2000: is /dev/block/mmcblk0p8 the boot partition? | 17:01 |
| jja2000 | no 10 is boot | 17:02 |
| jja2000 | 8 is /data | 17:02 |
| mal- | jja2000: try flashing the kernel manually | 17:03 |
| jja2000 | https://gist.github.com/jja2000/fe1abc4fbed6f7f4f224399bee13805c | 17:03 |
| jja2000 | I'm guessing I can do that through fastboot? | 17:04 |
| mal- | jja2000: yes | 17:04 |
| jja2000 | instead of dd'ing it | 17:04 |
| mal- | fastboot is the correct way | 17:04 |
| jja2000 | I'm guessing I should boot afterwards? | 17:05 |
| jja2000 | still shows the cm bootlogo | 17:08 |
| jja2000 | Yep still cm | 17:09 |
| horuxan | mal-, im deleted project | 17:09 |
| horuxan | sorry .. | 17:09 |
| jja2000 | mal-, I'll wipe again and flash manually | 17:10 |
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| sem-geologist | hello | 17:15 |
| mal- | jja2000: do not wipe anything | 17:15 |
| mal- | horuxan: I didn't say that | 17:16 |
| jja2000 | mal-, haven't done anything | 17:17 |
| jja2000 | So | 17:17 |
| jja2000 | how are we going to fix this | 17:17 |
| jja2000 | or me | 17:17 |
| horuxan | Hey, it is not yet ready for what you said, so I'll post when you are all ok. show? | 17:17 |
| sem-geologist | excuse me, I would like to know what a chances is to port SOS to mediatek based device, there is no CM for it, but there is tablet producers' android source code. I am talking about ubuntu touch tablet. | 17:19 |
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| NotKit | sem-geologist, no modem? | 17:19 |
| sem-geologist | no modem | 17:20 |
| mal- | jja2000: did you do this: fastboot flash boot hybris-boot.img? | 17:20 |
| NotKit | GUI is possible to get | 17:20 |
| jja2000 | yes, yes I did | 17:20 |
| NotKit | everything else depends :) | 17:20 |
| mal- | jja2000: it still boots android? | 17:20 |
| jja2000 | Yes it does | 17:20 |
| mal- | jja2000: whole android? | 17:20 |
| jja2000 | it also doesn't show me a different kernel in kernel version | 17:21 |
| jja2000 | It seems to work fine ye | 17:21 |
| mal- | jja2000: that sounds very odd | 17:22 |
| jja2000 | I think there's something wrong with the kernel | 17:22 |
| jja2000 | I don't think it flashes | 17:22 |
| jja2000 | No idea why, but I think it doesn't. I turned off selinux in the boardconfig.mk and the defconfig | 17:23 |
| sem-geologist | NotKit, what so wrong with modem? as I understand it is not 100% impossible and it is worth trying :) | 17:23 |
| jja2000 | it's still on enforcing | 17:23 |
| NotKit | sem-geologist, I meant if it had modem, getting modem to work would be hard | 17:23 |
| NotKit | but you don't have it anyway | 17:23 |
| jja2000 | NotKit, depending on what mtk chipset it is you could be able to do it | 17:24 |
| jja2000 | as normally porting roms also includes copying over libs and the kernel to the new romzip | 17:24 |
| NotKit | jja2000, do what? | 17:25 |
| jja2000 | Do you have an adblocker? If not install it real quick | 17:25 |
| NotKit | the problem with modem is that MediaTek uses custom ril daemon, and SailfishOS's ofono has no specific code for it | 17:25 |
| jja2000 | I'll send you a link to what I mean | 17:25 |
| jja2000 | oh | 17:26 |
| jja2000 | I thought you mean't the ril libs | 17:26 |
| sem-geologist | thanks, I think I will come back if I will get into problem. mtk uses a lot of weird stuff... and a lot ofnstuff is unknown as it is closed... | 17:26 |
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| NotKit | sem-geologist, do you have full MediaTek AOSP... | 17:26 |
| NotKit | ok | 17:27 |
| jja2000 | I still wonder what I need to do to get sailfish to work on my tablet | 17:27 |
| jja2000 | I mean | 17:27 |
| jja2000 | every file seems to be copied | 17:27 |
| jja2000 | there's a .stowaway folder with contents on /data | 17:27 |
| jja2000 | but the kernel doesn't want to be flashed for some annoying reason | 17:27 |
| NotKit | did you try flashing it manually? | 17:28 |
| NotKit | (with dd) | 17:28 |
| jja2000 | I tried it through fastboot ye | 17:28 |
| jja2000 | should I try dd? | 17:28 |
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| NotKit | I don't think it will be different then | 17:28 |
| jja2000 | could I try fastboot boot hybris-boot.img? | 17:29 |
| jja2000 | NotKit, http://imgur.com/AkOjzDM | 17:33 |
| jja2000 | gonna check if recovery can flash it | 17:35 |
| jja2000 | and if it doesn't I'll pull logs again | 17:35 |
| jja2000 | It says it worked | 17:36 |
| NotKit | fastboot boot might not work on every device | 17:38 |
| NotKit | check if it works for Android boot.img | 17:38 |
| jja2000 | twrp flashed it without error | 17:39 |
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| jja2000 | Change! | 17:39 |
| jja2000 | Flashed it through twrp | 17:40 |
| jja2000 | Now it stays on the asus boot screen, bootloop aswell | 17:40 |
| NotKit | try hybris-recovery.img then | 17:41 |
| NotKit | it should allow you to telnet into it | 17:41 |
| jja2000 | Where do I flash it to? Boot aswell? | 17:42 |
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| jja2000 | So ehm | 17:47 |
| jja2000 | fastboot flash boot hybris-recovery.img? | 17:47 |
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| NotKit | yes | 17:48 |
| jja2000 | lsusb says nothing | 17:50 |
| jja2000 | still doing the same thing | 17:50 |
| jja2000 | also, kde is spazzing out about a wired connection it's finding but then losing aswell | 17:50 |
| jja2000 | I have no idea what I did wrong xD | 17:52 |
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| taaem | jja2000: that connection thing is expected since it builds up a network over USB | 17:55 |
| jja2000 | It doesn't work though | 17:55 |
| jja2000 | It keeps saying that it lost connection | 17:55 |
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| taaem | jja2000: telnet or ssh? | 18:01 |
| taaem | or kde? | 18:01 |
| jja2000 | No network-manager | 18:01 |
| jja2000 | so kde | 18:02 |
| taaem | ah | 18:02 |
| jja2000 | My computer does recognize is | 18:02 |
| taaem | But the phone doesn't reboot? | 18:03 |
| jja2000 | It does | 18:03 |
| taaem | which phone btw? | 18:03 |
| taaem | ah how long does it take? | 18:03 |
| taaem | to reboot | 18:03 |
| jja2000 | It's a tablet, Asus Transformer Infinity (tf700t) | 18:04 |
| jja2000 | a minute or 2 | 18:04 |
| taaem | maybe ofono | 18:04 |
| taaem | but telnet and ssh are not working? regardless if nm recognizes it? | 18:05 |
| jja2000 | I excluded the modem option though | 18:05 |
| jja2000 | Is ssh enabled too? | 18:05 |
| taaem | ah right its a tablet | 18:05 |
| taaem | after it passes first boot stage ssh gets up | 18:05 |
| taaem | iirc | 18:05 |
| jja2000 | any way I can check if it's actually up? | 18:06 |
| taaem | try to ssh | 18:06 |
| taaem | :P | 18:06 |
| jja2000 | To what ip? xD | 18:06 |
| taaem | 192.168.2.15 | 18:07 |
| taaem | nemo@ | 18:07 |
| taaem | same as telnet ip | 18:08 |
| jja2000 | It just hangs | 18:08 |
| jja2000 | now it rebooted | 18:08 |
| jja2000 | Nah still hangs | 18:08 |
| jja2000 | dmesg says that it's a thing though | 18:08 |
| jja2000 | which is good | 18:08 |
| mal- | jja2000: you can't telnet in? which port did you try? | 18:09 |
| jja2000 | is it supposed to be port 23 or 2323? | 18:10 |
| mal- | 2323 | 18:10 |
| taaem | hadk 9.2 | 18:11 |
| jja2000 | using other ports is done by adding the colon like normal right? | 18:11 |
| NotKit | no | 18:11 |
| NotKit | telnet 192.168.2.15 2323 | 18:11 |
| jja2000 | IT WERKS | 18:12 |
| jja2000 | YES | 18:12 |
| jja2000 | so | 18:12 |
| jja2000 | what do I do? | 18:12 |
| taaem | does it reboot after some time? | 18:13 |
| jja2000 | ye | 18:13 |
| taaem | try ln -s /dev/null /etc/systemd/system/ofono.service | 18:13 |
| jja2000 | gonna wait till it reboots again | 18:14 |
| jja2000 | sec | 18:14 |
| jja2000 | I literally have 1 second to do everything | 18:16 |
| jja2000 | otherwise it hangs and reboots | 18:16 |
| taaem | otherwise try | 18:18 |
| taaem | ln -s /dev/null /etc/systemd/system/droid-hal-init.service | 18:18 |
| taaem | that stops the hw from trying to initalise | 18:18 |
| jja2000 | nope still dies out | 18:20 |
| taaem | you tried both? | 18:20 |
| jja2000 | Yep | 18:20 |
| taaem | mmh | 18:20 |
| jja2000 | I honestly have a splitsecond to try | 18:20 |
| jja2000 | because otherwise it just hangs | 18:20 |
| taaem | okay mmh | 18:21 |
| taaem | systemctl mask droid-hal-init | 18:21 |
| taaem | ln -s /dev/null /etc/systemd/system/lipstick.service | 18:22 |
| jja2000 | systemctl mask droid-hal-init still dies | 18:22 |
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| mrclp | I would like to port Sailfish to zenfone 2 laser ze550kl...Is this possible? | 18:24 |
| taaem | mrclp: do you have CM release? | 18:25 |
| mrclp | Yes, official cm13 | 18:25 |
| jja2000 | lipstick doesn't work either | 18:25 |
| taaem | no cm12 or 12.1? | 18:25 |
| taaem | jja2000: i'm running out of ideas | 18:26 |
| taaem | its some time ago that i was at that stage | 18:26 |
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| jja2000 | well crap | 18:27 |
| jja2000 | should I try the regular boot.img again? | 18:27 |
| taaem | jja2000: yep | 18:27 |
| jja2000 | It's currently using recovery | 18:27 |
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| taaem | but shouldn't make a difference afaik | 18:28 |
| taaem | but try it | 18:28 |
| mrclp_ | My problem is that it is my only phone...I also have crappy hardware | 18:29 |
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| jja2000 | I guess I'll wipe everything and try to manually flash it | 18:37 |
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| NotKit | jja2000, it's likely not going to help in any way | 18:38 |
| NotKit | you need to debug it to find reboot reason | 18:38 |
| jja2000 | I honestly wonder what is though | 18:38 |
| NotKit | maybe it's in Android logs | 18:38 |
| jja2000 | Yeah but with less than a second to try I can't | 18:39 |
| NotKit | check /system/bin/logcat or /usr/libexec/droid-hybris/system/bin/logcat | 18:39 |
| jja2000 | Can I do that through twrp? | 18:39 |
| NotKit | no | 18:39 |
| NotKit | but you can try to disable droid-hal-init through twrp | 18:39 |
| jja2000 | same way as through telnet, but through the terminal/adb shell? | 18:40 |
| NotKit | or do you have it masked already? | 18:40 |
| NotKit | <taaem> ln -s /dev/null /etc/systemd/system/droid-hal-init.service | 18:40 |
| jja2000 | adb shell says no such file or directory | 18:41 |
| jja2000 | Do I need to put /data/.stowaway/sailfishos infront of it? | 18:41 |
| NotKit | yes | 18:42 |
| NotKit | but you probably already have it created through telnet before | 18:42 |
| jja2000 | I don't know if that went through tbh | 18:42 |
| jja2000 | It goes to the next command | 18:42 |
| jja2000 | the next # | 18:42 |
| jja2000 | but then I type stuff, it hangs and reboots | 18:42 |
| jja2000 | (I typed stuff to see if it's going to reboot or not | 18:42 |
| NotKit | ls -la /data/.stowaway/sailfishos/etc/systemd/system | 18:43 |
| jja2000 | Wait a second | 18:44 |
| jja2000 | Are you 100000% sure it's supposed to be .stowaway? | 18:44 |
| jja2000 | and not .stowaways? | 18:44 |
| NotKit | .stowaways | 18:48 |
| NotKit | a typo | 18:48 |
| jja2000 | ah | 18:48 |
| NotKit | (actually I copied it from your message above) | 18:48 |
| jja2000 | oh | 18:48 |
| jja2000 | hue | 18:48 |
| jja2000 | __bionic_open_tzdata: couldn't find any tzdata when looking for localtime! | 18:48 |
| jja2000 | __bionic_open_tzdata: couldn't find any tzdata when looking for GMT! | 18:48 |
| jja2000 | __bionic_open_tzdata: couldn't find any tzdata when looking for posixrules! | 18:48 |
| jja2000 | drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Sep 20 18:17 . | 18:48 |
| jja2000 | drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Sep 20 15:40 .. | 18:48 |
| jja2000 | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 20 15:40 basic.target.wants | 18:48 |
| jja2000 | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 28 2016 getty.target.wants | 18:48 |
| jja2000 | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 20 15:40 local-fs.target.wants | 18:48 |
| jja2000 | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 28 2016 multi-user.target.wants | 18:48 |
| jja2000 | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Sep 20 18:17 ofono.service -> /dev/null | 18:48 |
| jja2000 | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 Sep 20 15:40 runlevel4.target -> /lib/systemd/system/actdead.target | 18:48 |
| NotKit | please use pastebin for this stuff | 18:49 |
| jja2000 | sURE | 18:49 |
| jja2000 | sure | 18:49 |
| jja2000 | I don't know what the norm is for the amount of lines in this channel | 18:49 |
| taaem | i think 4 | 18:49 |
| taaem | or 3 | 18:49 |
| mal- | 3-4 | 18:49 |
| NotKit | ln -s /dev/null /data/.stowaways/sailfishos/etc/systemd/system/droid-hal-init.service | 18:49 |
| taaem | ^ | 18:49 |
| jja2000 | It's in there now | 18:50 |
| jja2000 | Reboot? with the recovery kernel or the regular kernel? | 18:50 |
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| taaem | regular | 18:54 |
| jja2000 | regular still reboots | 18:54 |
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| jja2000 | still doesn't let me in telnet | 18:54 |
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| mal- | jja2000: what do you see in dmesg on host? | 19:00 |
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| jja2000 | any keywords I should grep out? | 19:00 |
| jja2000 | Mer maybe? | 19:00 |
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| jja2000 | mal-, http://pastebin.com/RFbfcajR | 19:05 |
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| mal- | jja2000: looks normal | 19:14 |
| jja2000 | problem is that every time you see it repeated it has rebooted | 19:15 |
| jja2000 | Telnet also isn't continuously connected | 19:15 |
| mal- | jja2000: do you see the usb0 interface on host? | 19:16 |
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| jja2000 | Under lsusb or ip link? | 19:17 |
| jja2000 | Ip link shows enp0s20u12 | 19:17 |
| mal- | ip link | 19:19 |
| mal- | does it have ip address when you try to boot the device | 19:19 |
| jja2000 | It doesn't even show up under ip link half of the time | 19:20 |
| jja2000 | because it literally can't connect | 19:20 |
| jja2000 | I could potentially try on another machine | 19:20 |
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| jja2000 | I might start over again tomorrow | 19:30 |
| jja2000 | completely | 19:30 |
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| jja2000 | for now I'm just a bit bummed out | 19:34 |
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| horuxan | someone could tell me where to find documents on the sailfish system, how to make the camera work, the mtp and if there firefox, opera, or chrome for him, thank you. | 20:10 |
| saidinesh5 | horuxan: the HADK faq in the title | 20:11 |
| saidinesh5 | http://bit.ly/hadk-faq-v2 | 20:11 |
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| horuxan | saidinesh5, im follow hadk and hadkfaq | 20:14 |
| horuxan | to compile my sailfish | 20:14 |
| horuxan | maybe one link on system | 20:14 |
| horuxan | activate cam | 20:14 |
| horuxan | more, im dont know | 20:14 |
| horuxan | "/// | 20:15 |
| saidinesh5 | horuxan: how to get camera working is specified in that hadkfaq | 20:15 |
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| horuxan | i make this process | 20:22 |
| horuxan | my system probaly have this module | 20:22 |
| horuxan | whit, not initialize | 20:22 |
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| saidinesh5 | hmm? | 20:23 |
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| horuxan | then I followed normal hack, and hackfaq for this, I think there is the camera module of the system, do not know how to do it to image. | 20:26 |
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| saidinesh5 | check if minimedia is running on your device by doing a `getprop | grep mini` horuxan | 20:37 |
| saidinesh5 | if it is running, then you can try starting the camera and see | 20:37 |
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| douglasbrito | saidinesh5, http://pastebin.com/TG6UpP9K | 20:42 |
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| sem-geologist | NotKit, sorry I had to go, to answer about AOSP: I don't know if it is AOSP (I am not sure if any android are fully open source due to video binary blob drivers) | 20:45 |
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| sem-geologist | the primary source is this: https://github.com/bq/aquaris-M10 | 20:46 |
| sem-geologist | while ubuntu touch team added some stuff and basically backported bluetooth stack from 4.2 down to 3.10 kernel version | 20:48 |
| NotKit | sem-geologist, it's just kernel source | 20:48 |
| sem-geologist | do we need anything more? I thought It is just kernel+lybhybris, which is capable to use the drivers | 20:48 |
| sem-geologist | libhybris* | 20:49 |
| NotKit | you need CyanogenMod or AOSP tree to build compatibility libs for libhybris | 20:49 |
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| sem-geologist | hmm... There are no of those.. :/ | 20:49 |
| NotKit | SoC is MT8163A, right? | 20:50 |
| sem-geologist | unfortunately yes | 20:50 |
| sem-geologist | actually my model have B, the weaker one (but running colder) | 20:51 |
| NotKit | MediaTek SoCs are pretty similar to each other | 20:51 |
| NotKit | you might try basing on similar SoC's tree | 20:51 |
| sem-geologist | I don't know, the only ARM socks I am very well familiar is allwiner ones... | 20:52 |
| sem-geologist | but they are so well RE that no need of android at all | 20:53 |
| sem-geologist | MTK is similar story as most of arm socs | 20:53 |
| NotKit | what is the graphics? | 20:53 |
| sem-geologist | on MTK? it is mali | 20:54 |
| NotKit | see if there is any CyanogenMod for 8163 or 6753(?) | 20:56 |
| sem-geologist | Mali-T720 MP2 | 20:56 |
| sem-geologist | why 6753? | 20:57 |
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| NotKit | that's the closest phone SoC I could think of | 20:57 |
| NotKit | they are better supported than tablet SoCs for some reason | 20:58 |
| saidinesh5 | douglasbrito: what does your logcat say when you open the camera? | 20:58 |
| NotKit | at least Elephone P8000 has CM12 | 20:58 |
| saidinesh5 | douglasbrito: /usr/libexec/droid-hybris/system/bin/logcat i think | 20:58 |
| sem-geologist | bw, before I get into this, I forgot to ask most important which version of Qt5 sailfish os uses? | 20:59 |
| NotKit | 5.2, but migration to 5.6 is in process | 21:00 |
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| sem-geologist | how much it is in process, is it possible to get it working now or it will be need to wait some time? | 21:01 |
| sem-geologist | (month, half year?) | 21:01 |
| douglasbrito | saidinesh5, http://pastebin.com/UA6Hxw7t | 21:02 |
| NotKit | will need to wait some time | 21:02 |
| saidinesh5 | douglasbrito: line 243 in hadkfaq | 21:03 |
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| douglasbrito | saidinesh5, not understand this line | 21:04 |
| douglasbrito | "// | 21:04 |
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| saidinesh5 | which line? | 21:05 |
| douglasbrito | all kkkkkk | 21:06 |
| douglasbrito | how to pause service | 21:06 |
| douglasbrito | and add lipstick to init.rc | 21:06 |
| douglasbrito | no have script | 21:07 |
| douglasbrito | what add in init.rc ? | 21:07 |
| douglasbrito | saidinesh5, | 21:07 |
| sem-geologist | oh... ok then I have nowhere to rush... the app I want to get ported and use requires at least 5.6... (some powerful GIS) | 21:08 |
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| douglasbrito | run /usr/bin/droid/lipstick-hack.sh ? | 21:10 |
| saidinesh5 | douglasbrito: https://paste.kde.org/pwiep7jz2 lines go into initrc | 21:10 |
| kimmoli | opinions? now all ports are "alpha", "beta", "gamma".. what it should be after that? what a "release" should be named? just 1.0 ? | 21:11 |
| saidinesh5 | but do you have a file called /usr/bin/droid/lipstick-hack.sh ? | 21:11 |
| saidinesh5 | only if you will throw a party for the 1.0 release.. lol | 21:11 |
| kimmoli | saidinesh5: i will get kalsarikännit for it | 21:12 |
| * saidinesh5 hits google translate | 21:12 | |
| kimmoli | http://xmas.finland.fi/19-kalsarikannit/ | 21:12 |
| taaem | kimmoli: maybe 2.0.2.51-VERSIONNUMBER | 21:12 |
| kimmoli | hashtag for that | 21:12 |
| saidinesh5 | Touche | 21:13 |
| douglasbrito | saidinesh5, http://pastebin.com/U5R1qs2u | 21:13 |
| douglasbrito | correct ? | 21:13 |
| saidinesh5 | douglasbrito: your paste is incomplete. but yes, add the lines i sent you at the end of your init.rc | 21:14 |
| douglasbrito | im add | 21:15 |
| douglasbrito | no open camera | 21:15 |
| douglasbrito | douglasbrito: your paste is incomplete. but yes, add the lines i sent you at the end of your init.rc | 21:15 |
| douglasbrito | sorry .. | 21:15 |
| douglasbrito | sh-3.2# service lipstickhack /usr/bin/droid/lipstick-hack.sh | 21:15 |
| douglasbrito | sh: service: command not found | 21:16 |
| saidinesh5 | but do you have a file called /usr/bin/droid/lipstick-hack.sh ? | 21:16 |
| douglasbrito | yes have | 21:16 |
| saidinesh5 | and no .. you have to add these lines to /init.rc | 21:16 |
| saidinesh5 | vim /init.rc and paste them at the end | 21:16 |
| sem-geologist | it is sad that joilla tablet were ruined by chinese manufacture, I would had bought it... instead I got into sweet talk of ubuntu...tablet which is far away from what is advertised | 21:18 |
| saidinesh5 | douglasbrito: after adding these lines in init.rc | 21:18 |
| saidinesh5 | systemctl disable lipstick-hack | 21:18 |
| saidinesh5 | there's an ubuntu tablet? O_O | 21:18 |
| douglasbrito | no moto g 2gn | 21:19 |
| douglasbrito | xt1069 | 21:19 |
| saidinesh5 | heh no , that question was for sem-geologist | 21:19 |
| douglasbrito | on service /usr/bi... | 21:19 |
| douglasbrito | runing on terminal | 21:19 |
| douglasbrito | command not found | 21:19 |
| douglasbrito | correct ? | 21:19 |
| douglasbrito | in init.rc fix ? | 21:19 |
| saidinesh5 | you shouldnt run that line on command line | 21:19 |
| saidinesh5 | you should just paste those lines in init.rc | 21:20 |
| sem-geologist | saidnesh5, yeah there is, and it is quite nice if somebody is only into social stuff, like organising, mails, news... and so on | 21:20 |
| sem-geologist | it runs ubuntu-touch | 21:20 |
| saidinesh5 | oh.... i see. i gave my nexus 7 running ubuntu touch to a family member and they were okay with it actually. just web browsing and mail checking though | 21:21 |
| sem-geologist | it is controversial os, as it confines everything to max (I would say over-confines) | 21:21 |
| douglasbrito | im paste saidinesh5 , whit not function | 21:21 |
| saidinesh5 | douglasbrito: ? | 21:21 |
| saidinesh5 | sem-geologist: yeah i know. it is as restrictive as iOS in a lot of ways | 21:22 |
| douglasbrito | on moment reboot after systemctl disable lipstick-hack | 21:22 |
| saidinesh5 | wait | 21:22 |
| saidinesh5 | douglasbrito: | 21:22 |
| saidinesh5 | douglasbrito: add those lines to init.rc, then do a systemctl disable lipstick-hack | 21:22 |
| saidinesh5 | and then reboot | 21:22 |
| douglasbrito | no run camera | 21:22 |
| douglasbrito | "// | 21:22 |
| douglasbrito | im after minutes | 21:23 |
| saidinesh5 | did you add these lines to init.rc? | 21:23 |
| douglasbrito | run alone usr/lib/... | 21:23 |
| douglasbrito | no service | 21:23 |
| douglasbrito | and the camera | 21:23 |
| douglasbrito | view the icons | 21:23 |
| douglasbrito | of make phot | 21:23 |
| douglasbrito | photo | 21:23 |
| douglasbrito | etc .. | 21:23 |
| saidinesh5 | douglasbrito pastebin your /init.rc please | 21:23 |
| sem-geologist | There is possibilities to recompile, repack the apps... one of most interesting side in ubuntu-touch is ability to run xapps (which most crashes before or during using) | 21:25 |
| saidinesh5 | i like the idea of their convergence thingy. i am planning to try to get it running on my phone after my sailfish stabilizes though | 21:26 |
| douglasbrito | saidinesh5, http://pastebin.com/ASQZGBAL | 21:26 |
| douglasbrito | saidinesh5, http://pastebin.com/PHeZ3cYn | 21:27 |
| sem-geologist | convergence will make sense only when desktop apps will work, I hardly see the point in changing the interface when attached to monitor, if anyway it is not productive and I need to get real desktop to do anything... | 21:28 |
| sem-geologist | i.e. libreoffice which they pack... well as scientist I use refernce manager called zotero | 21:29 |
| saidinesh5 | i think you need proper spaces in the init.rc for the lines you pasted douglasbrito | 21:29 |
| sem-geologist | well even if both, libreoffice and firefox, where zotero is residing, both are on ubuntu touch, that does not work | 21:30 |
| saidinesh5 | Oh | 21:31 |
| saidinesh5 | hmm | 21:31 |
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| sem-geologist | hmm.... I am just looking there http://malideveloper.arm.com/resources/drivers/open-source-mali-midgard-gpu-kernel-drivers/ | 21:47 |
| sem-geologist | and trying to understand, arm divides drivers into user and kernel? where kernel is opensourced, but user is as binary blobs | 21:48 |
| sem-geologist | does it mean that it can be freely updated to newer kernel? I see userspace drivers have wayland (but no mir, hahaha :/ well that would explain why ubuntu touch needs android) | 21:50 |
| sem-geologist | but that would mean that it should be easier to use in sailfish os? | 21:50 |
| douglasbrito | saidinesh5, the lines past on end line init.rc ? | 21:52 |
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| saidinesh5 | douglasbrito: yes | 21:55 |
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| saidinesh5 | assuming you meant, paste those lines at the end of init.rc | 21:58 |
| douglasbrito | no boot | 21:58 |
| douglasbrito | @_@ | 21:58 |
| saidinesh5 | did you do systemctl disable lipstick-hack? | 21:59 |
| sledges | sem-geologist: some ODMs just put dumb kernel drivers which in essence just relay messages between userland and closed (again userspace) blobs.. | 22:12 |
| sem-geologist | oh... now I understand. | 22:14 |
| sledges | sem-geologist: yes, we've had some so-called "pure" ports, no android/hybris required, with gpu oss drivers; one of them was rpi2; your contact in this would be locusf | 22:14 |
| sem-geologist | well, video drivers is only one from many... but there is nothing know about dma, i2c, spi, uart (I guess internal gps would be conected by that), touchscreen, sound, bluetooth (maybe)... | 22:17 |
| sem-geologist | I mean for MTK | 22:17 |
| NotKit | that's why you basically can't update kernel | 22:31 |
| NotKit | except for newer MTK kernel in some cases | 22:31 |
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| sledges | as long as my memory goes to the past, MTK wouldn't even release kernel sources back in the day | 22:34 |
| sledges | has anything changed since?:) | 22:35 |
| sledges | speaking of any given android phone | 22:35 |
| NotKit | it's often up to manufacturer | 22:35 |
| NotKit | some release, some don't | 22:35 |
| sledges | i'd even use the word 'notoriously':) | 22:36 |
| NotKit | some even start to understand that if they want custom firmware support for their device, they need to release them | 22:37 |
| NotKit | http://forum.ulefone.com/thread-125-1-1.html | 22:37 |
| douglasbrito | Sage, [ | 22:38 |
| douglasbrito | no sorry | 22:38 |
| douglasbrito | saidinesh5, im reinstaling | 22:39 |
| douglasbrito | the system | 22:39 |
| douglasbrito | and re run commands | 22:39 |
| sledges | NotKit: how far did you get with your closed kernel mtk sailfish adventure?:) | 22:39 |
| NotKit | stuck with modem | 22:39 |
| NotKit | but kernel has been reversed since | 22:39 |
| sledges | i still quote your ingenuity around to bypass systemd (since you can't patch kernel with mer needs):)) | 22:40 |
| NotKit | it might be interesting to try to get more Intel tablets working with Sailfish, since, unfortunately, "reversed" kernel for one doesn't even properly work with another revision, and fails a lot on another device (see tortoisedoc's attempts with X98 Kindow) | 22:45 |
| NotKit | but what I did back then was simply starting SFOS services by script from Android chroot | 22:48 |
| NotKit | maybe OpenRC, runit or s6, not sure what is better to try | 22:50 |
| sem-geologist | Somehow I understand the w/o systemd way... It really came not polished, broke a lot of things (well some are fixed now)... and when I remeber some situations where I was so embarrassed thanks to systemd... | 22:54 |
| sem-geologist | Just imagine some cool things which worked week, and you want to show for some group of people some really cool stuff, but during that time after debian update bam, things are broken... | 22:56 |
| NotKit | no hard feelings against systemd, it just refuses to work with stock Android kernel | 22:56 |
| sem-geologist | and you get to know that just moment you want to show... | 22:56 |
| sem-geologist | well, I use it (It is easier now), and I am not running with tin foil hat shouting, however I have personal hard feelings on that project the same as pulseaudio... which produces garbage sound (I have absolute hearing, and it annoys me) | 22:59 |
| sem-geologist | I really hear the difference between alsa hardware my profesional sound card mixing, and that bad software imposture of sound mixing called pulseaudio... | 23:00 |
| sledges | if your linux running laptop had USB GSM/LTE modem, would still keep it on, but suspend the rest, support OTAs (act dead mode for kernel updates), charging mode, connectivities, bunch of sensors, battery, all that managing middleware, and all working in one concordance, how many SysV init scripts would that need, and what complexity would that be :) | 23:00 |
| douglasbrito | saidinesh5, not fix error | 23:02 |
| douglasbrito | "// | 23:02 |
| NotKit | sledges, ~1 SysV script for each systemd service unit? :) | 23:03 |
| sledges | NotKit: restarts and interdependencies? ;) | 23:03 |
| sledges | correct startup sequence | 23:04 |
| sledges | and no "sleeps" ;) | 23:04 |
| NotKit | some problems might be possible to handle with custom runlevels | 23:04 |
| sem-geologist | I dont understand what is this fuss about... actually then I had linux on allwiner device and it was still on sysV it had no problem with all sensors and battery and stuff | 23:05 |
| sem-geologist | and it booted from USB faster, than my Ubuntu tablet | 23:05 |
| sledges | did it have a modem? | 23:06 |
| sem-geologist | actually systemd broke a lot of stuff when came to debian armhf | 23:06 |
| sem-geologist | that was development board. I see no problem to have usb modem on that | 23:07 |
| sledges | and acting like phone, as well as being good on battery life? | 23:07 |
| sem-geologist | and I know many people used it | 23:07 |
| sledges | as well as not overheating in your pocket etc:) | 23:07 |
| sem-geologist | well that was not phone, it was dev board | 23:08 |
| sem-geologist | it was/is useful more for such projects like building robots | 23:08 |
| sledges | https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/piphone-home-made-raspberry-pi-smartphone/ | 23:08 |
| sledges | then SysV is just fine | 23:09 |
| NotKit | is SailfishOS still on systemd-208? | 23:12 |
| NotKit | systemd 219 | 23:13 |
| NotKit | hm, no | 23:13 |
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| NotKit | but https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/systemd is still 208, I don't get it | 23:15 |
| sledges | being updated in devel atm;) | 23:15 |
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