Friday, 2017-01-20

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neeradHey I can't boot up my sailfish OS it fails to load services in systemd06:57
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neerad"/dev/cpuctl" mount fails07:23
neeradanybody ?07:24
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NeKitneerad, is it from systemd or Android init?07:28
NeKitnot sure if it's needed07:28
NeKitanything else besides this?07:29
neeradIt can't mount basic services07:29
neeradsomething to do with init.rc file i guess07:29
NeKitplease pastebin your journal07:29
neeradsystemctl --all you mean?07:30
NeKitjournalctl -l07:30
neeradhold on07:30
neeradwhat could be the reasons ?07:31
NeKit /dev/cpuctl issue comes from Android init.rc and can be probably ignored07:32
NeKitwant to see if there is anything else07:32
neeradactually the whole process causes bootloop07:32
neeradpermission error ?07:34
NeKitbootloops can be often caused by SELinux issues07:34
NeKitwhat device/Android base?07:34
NeKithard to guess without logs07:34
neeraddevice = Redmi 2(wt88047) , Android base =6.0.1_r77, Cm-base = Cm-13.007:35
NeKitisn't there already?07:36
NeKit(cm12.1 base though)07:36
neeradyes exactly and SFOS mine SFOS
NeKitupdating SFOS itself should be easy, but is there any advantage in cm13 over cm12.1 for the device? cm13 base is currently experimental07:39
neeradyeah I know I like expermenting07:39
neeradUpdated libraries maybe for Cm1307:41
neeradover cm 12.107:41
NeKitso does it reboot afterwards?07:42
neeradyeah it continues to be in bootloop07:43
NeKitcan you get /proc/last_kmsg or /sys/fs/pstore/console-ramoops after reboot?07:43
neeradwhat might be the possible error ?07:47
neeradroot cause ?07:47
NeKitdoes bootloops stop if you disable droid-hal-init?07:47
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neeradno bootloop stops if i stop user@1000007:48
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neeradyou mean like systemctl disable droid-hal-init07:49
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NeKitor mask, as in HADK07:49
neeradIt stops if mask user@1000007:50
NeKitbut not needed, if there are no bootloops with droid-hal-init running, but user@100000 masked07:50
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neeradI don't get it07:51
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NeKitsystemctl status droid-hal-init07:51
NeKit(I don't see it starting in your log, btw)07:51
neeradbut in dmesg it shows07:52
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NeKitdo you see reboot reason in dmesg before it happens?07:53
NeKit(dmesg -w can probably help)07:53
neeradnot really07:53
neeradjust a list of failing services and permissions error07:54
NeKitreboot can be caused by critical Android service failing for 3 times07:55
neeradI know some services are either conflicting or straight away failing07:56
saidinesh54 times but yeah07:57
saidinesh5neerad: you had services like zygote etc.. running too right?07:58
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neeradhow to know if it is running07:58
neeradsystemctl ?07:58
saidinesh5ps aux08:00
neeradBTW systemctl status droid-hal-init gives loaded but dead(disabled)08:05
neeraddev-cpuctl.mount , sys-fs-cgroup-bfqio.mount , sys-fs-pstore.mount, auditd.service, plymouth-start.service  start-user-session@USER.service08:08
neeradsyslog.service ,  , network-pre.target08:09
neeradthese are the services that fails08:09
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saidinesh5nh1402: btw. SilicaWebView is just a thin layer ontop of QtWebkit itself..08:25
saidinesh5adding pagestack support (especially for back/forward), custom user agent, scroll helpers and animate helper for virtual keyboard08:26
nh1402saidinesh5: you what, I could have sworn it was gecko and not webkit08:26
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saidinesh5just had to dig through the sources when it wasnt showing virtual keyboard for any touch fields08:27
saidinesh5but apparently that is an issue being caused by it being a notification window08:27
saidinesh5[  314.202643] SMB:smb1360_shutdown: smb1360 power off08:28
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pketo_SilicaWebView and Sailfish.WebView are 2 different things10:25
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saidinesh5pketo: btw. any idea how to make an overlay window get input focus in sailfish?10:30
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pketosaidinesh5: no idea, I don't really know much about the UI side :)10:33
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ghosalmartina 32bit binary is 13kb, the same binary as 64bit is around 130kb12:11
ghosalmartinwhen I build minimedia as a 32bit lib CANNOT LINK EXECUTABLE: "/usr/libexec/droid-hybris/system/lib/" is 32-bit instead of 64-bit12:18
ghosalmartinam very confused :P12:18
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sledgesghosalmartin: 13kb vs 130kb stripped vs not?12:27
ghosalmartinsledges, honestly don't know, i can kinda init some camera services12:27
ghosalmartinbut i cant link to libcameraservice atm, so am going to build it in both 32bit/64bit12:27
sledgesghosalmartin: file shows status of stripptness12:28
sledgesso does of bitness12:28
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ghosalmartinsledges, yeah it refuses any combination of that :P12:47
sledgesghosalmartin: what happens again when you build minimedia as 64bit and make it look at /usr/libexec/droid-hybris/system/lib64/ which is also 64 bit?12:51
ghosalmartinsledges, the issue then is that the binary is 32bit only :/12:52
sledgesah right now i remember12:53
sledgesghosalmartin: is in android's world (/system) also 32bit?12:53
ghosalmartinsledges, i need to see how android will interact with it, since there must be a way12:53
sledgessame question goes to media service12:53
ghosalmartinsledges, i thinkt he media servies is mediaserver and it is 32bit12:54
sledgesyou can check ;)12:54
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ghosalmartinsledges, libcameraservice exists in both lib and lib6412:56
ghosalmartinsledges, and the mediaserver binary in /system/bin is 32bit12:56
sledgesand probably if you nuke from lib64, your android would still take photos12:57
ghosalmartinsledges, probably12:57
ghosalmartinbut forcing minimediaservice to 32bit yields no gain, it still manages to complain that am trying to access a 32bit library with 64bit binary12:58
ghosalmartinvery confusing12:58
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sledgesghosalmartin: yes, i can see that13:00
sledgesjust trying to put straight where android's at13:00
sledgesghosalmartin: ldd minimedia13:01
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zhxthey, does this mean some configs are missing for pulseaudio?
zhxtsledges, ghosalmartin ^_^13:11
ghosalmartinsledges,         not a dynamic executable13:13
sledgeszhxt: use systemctl-user13:14
sledgesghosalmartin: ldd is from sailfish and `file minimediaservice` shows 32bit?13:15
ghosalmartinsledges, sorry this is a new flash13:16
ghosalmartintrying to get a clean enough zip for another upload13:16
ghosalmartintheres been a bit of a mess made with copy several libs over, so I just want a release with all 32bit/64bit libs included13:17
zhxtsledges: aha,  there are different . just konw that,  :P13:17
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zhxtsledges: no such file,
sledgeszhxt: systemctl-used13:18
sledgeszhxt: systemctl-user13:18
ghosalmartinzhxt, find it in /lib/systemd/system13:18
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zhxtghosalmartin, sledges, failed with systemctl-user,, systemctl status said no such file of pa.service13:20
zhxtjournalctl log,
ghosalmartinzhxt, seems like the conf is wrong13:21
ghosalmartinzhxt, actually, does test_audio work?13:21
sledgeszhxt: systemctl-user status pulseaudio.service13:21
sledgesit is there ;)13:21
ghosalmartinthat command works for me :P13:22
zhxtsledges: hmm, okay, my fault.13:22
sledgeszhxt: if service unit is from user (in /usr/lib/systemd), you need to use systemctl-user for all commands about it if you are root13:23
sledgeszhxt: first just try to comment relevant lines (or whole sections that those lines are in) in /system/etc/audio_policy.conf13:23
zhxtsledges: ,13:23
zhxtghosalmartin: will quickly try test_audo , :P13:24
zhxtghosalmartin: no sound,  test_audio log,
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zhxtsledges: thx, good to know that.13:25
ghosalmartinzhxt, that seems right then13:25
ghosalmartinsame with mine13:25
zhxtsledges: ghosalmartin, okay, will change audio_policy.conf13:26
ghosalmartinI wasn't trying to summon satan13:28
nh1402ghosalmartin: are you sure?13:29
sledges1 week later?13:29
r0kk3rzghosalmartin: :(13:29
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ghosalmartinam sure he could help with this problem :P13:29
akhil_surabhi_ghosalmartin, sledges, yesterday after deleting that droid-hal-init.service, i found something. My phone is initially shown as merboot loader, instantly, it is changed to redmi note 3.13:30
ghosalmartinakhil_surabhi_, yeah something android wise is interfering13:31
ghosalmartinusually leaving the usb rc to be imported causes the issue13:31
ghosalmartinbut youve disabled that13:31
akhil_surabhi_ghosalmartin: ya, and i did disable few android related services too13:32
akhil_surabhi_donno what's causing the issue..13:32
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ghosalmartinwhats your github again13:33
ghosalmartinakhil_surabhi_, have you disabled import init.qcom.usb.rc13:34
akhil_surabhi_ghosalmartin: no, i did NOT disable that13:35
ghosalmartinakhil_surabhi_, disable it13:35
ghosalmartincommnet it out13:35
akhil_surabhi_ghosalmartin: sure13:35
ghosalmartinakhil_surabhi_, i think
ghosalmartinthats why your seeing it change to redmi13:35
ghosalmartinsledges, would you agree/13:35
akhil_surabhi_ghosalmartin: does any other service or something depend on that file?13:36
ghosalmartinakhil_surabhi_, not that I can tell13:37
ghosalmartinusually that usb stuff is handled by the normal init.rc13:37
ghosalmartinbut sometimes vendors have their own13:37
akhil_surabhi_ghosalmartin: okay, i'll first disable that and see what happens..13:37
ghosalmartinakhil_surabhi_, okays :)13:38
zhxtsledges: unkonw flags are now removed.
sledgesghosalmartin: i'm trying to find one more case which disabled it, no luck so far, but let's hope this is it13:39
akhil_surabhi_ghosalmartin: successfully disabled without any problem, atleast for now13:39
sledgeszhxt: that's where use jusa_ comes in:)13:40
sledgeszhxt: or you can delve into source code yourself, i think there is a hint right above assertion13:40
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sledgesabout sample rate13:40
zhxtsledges: okay, will have a look, :P13:41
sledgessource code of pulseaudio_modules_droid13:41
sledgesakhil_surabhi_: so can you telnet?13:41
akhil_surabhi_sledges: yes, i can telnet13:41
zhxtsledges: thx :P13:42
sledgeswow! ghosalmartin for president!13:42
akhil_surabhi_now, shall i delete that droid-hal-init.service?13:42
TofeMaybe you guys solved it in the past: my hammerhead seems to boot veeery slowly ( see systemd's first logs at the end of ); did you stumble on this issue back when you ported SFOS to N5 with CM12.1 ?13:43
sledgesakhil_surabhi_: you said you deleted it already13:43
akhil_surabhi_sledges: after deleting that, i wasn't able to telnet, so ghosalmartin suggested to add it again13:43
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ghosalmartinanyone know where mics cache lives13:44
sledgesakhil_surabhi_: so now you have reboots13:44
sledgesghosalmartin: /var/cache/mic ?13:44
akhil_surabhi_sledges: no, i don't have reboots13:44
sledgesakhil_surabhi_: then leave droid-hal-init to run13:44
sledgesand try /system/bin/surfaceflinger again13:45
zhxtlet me ping jusa_ first :P13:45
ghosalmartini guess now tis worth a try to allow dhi to run at boom13:45
akhil_surabhi_sledges: okay13:45
zhxtjusa_: ping13:45
sledgesTofe: it says i need a dropbox account to access that page13:46
akhil_surabhi_sledges: starting droid-hal-init reboots device to recovery now13:46
jusa_zhxt: hm?13:46
Tofeoh, my bad ! I didn't know that. Let me use something else.13:47
ghosalmartinakhil_surabhi_, did you forget --second-stage13:47
zhxtjusa_: hey,13:47
TofeHere it is:
akhil_surabhi_ghosalmartin: ya, i forgot that, thanks13:47
zhxtjusa_: hi, do you konw how to fix this?
sledgesTofe: remove console=ttyHSL0,115200,n8 from kernel cmdline13:48
jusa_zhxt: could you start pa by hand with verbose logging and paste the logs13:48
zhxtjusa_: sure, with root user ?13:49
zhxtjusa_: okay, please wait a little,13:49
akhil_surabhi_ghosalmartin: droid-hal-init --second-stage, terminal froze13:50
ghosalmartinakhil_surabhi_, can you open up a new terminal and try to connect13:50
akhil_surabhi_ghosalmartin: won't connect anymore...13:50
ghosalmartinakhil_surabhi_, *sigh* so that didnt fix it13:51
zhxtjusa_:, thx13:51
akhil_surabhi_ghosalmartin: this time, device is not detected tooo13:52
akhil_surabhi_ghosalmartin: not even as redmi note 313:52
ghosalmartinakhil_surabhi_, so something before that is doing this13:53
jusa_zhxt: thanks, could you also point me to contents of your /system/etc/audio_policy.conf contents13:53
zhxtjusa_: sure, few second,13:54
akhil_surabhi_ghosalmartin: before or after import init.qcom.usb.rc?13:54
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ghosalmartinam guessing before?13:54
akhil_surabhi_ghosalmartin: what to do now?13:55
ghosalmartintry and find something referencing usb and start commenting out :P13:56
ghosalmartinid say disable all the services13:56
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ghosalmartinand see if it still does it13:56
akhil_surabhi_ghosalmartin: okay, and should i do that in all .rc files or in any specific file??13:57
ghosalmartinakhil_surabhi_, do init.rc first13:57
akhil_surabhi_ghosalmartin: okay13:57
ghosalmartinif it still crashes its something else I guess13:58
akhil_surabhi_ghosalmartin: i'm trying to disable that, can you have a look at this:
ghosalmartinakhil_surabhi_, disable init.usb.configfs.rc too14:01
akhil_surabhi_ghosalmartin: okay14:01
akhil_surabhi_ghosalmartin: no luck14:03
Tofesledges: I'll try that tonight, thanks; you think it hides some messages to me ?14:04
zhxtjusa_: any suggestions? some configurations are wrong?14:10
jusa_zhxt: heh.. found the problem, it's a bug in the droid module. I'll fix it but probably not until next week.. in the mean time you can probably get audio temporarily working by commenting out for example multichannel-entry from audio_policy.conf14:12
zhxtjusa_: aha, okay, thanks you,  I will try that, :P14:14
akhil_surabhi_sledges: any idea?14:14
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sledgesTofe: they've been hiding it all along :D14:14
sledgesTofe: what messages? :)14:15
Tofesledges: I don't know :) some hints as to why it's so slow after initrd, somehow14:16
sledgesakhil_surabhi_: touch /init_enter_debug2 when you are in telnet (or via adb into /data/.stowaways/sailfishos if you're locked out)14:17
akhil_surabhi_sledges: okay14:17
sledgesTofe: if console= is the problem, kernel just sits and waits for it to come up, and timeouts, blocking boot, i'd guess14:17
zhxtjusa_, sledges, ghosalmartin,  haha, pulseaudio now started. :D14:18
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akhil_surabhi_ghosalmartin: what is the use of init.usb.configfs.rc?14:20
zhxtwhat suppose to be get when test_audio is running?14:21
ghosalmartinakhil_surabhi_, dunno. but i assume it messed around with usb interfaces14:23
ghosalmartinzhxt, what you pasted14:23
akhil_surabhi_ghosalmartin: don't know what did that, but now after running droid-hal-init --second-stage, now terminal won't freeze :-)14:24
zhxtghosalmartin: still no sound when I run test_audio14:24
ghosalmartinzhxt, dont think theres supposed to be any14:25
zhxtghosalmartin: and press vol+/- key14:25
akhil_surabhi_sledges: did run touch /init_enter_debug2, nothing happened14:26
sledgesakhil_surabhi_: so can you telnet? after reboot it should not reboot anymore14:27
jusa_zhxt: libhybris test_audio ? if that won't work pa won't make any difference14:28
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zhxtjusa_: yes,14:30
jusa_zhxt: check that all fw is loaded, access rights are ok and the works14:30
zhxtjusa_:  after reboot I have heard volume key pressed sound one time,14:31
jusa_zhxt: hmm14:31
zhxtwill reboot again and check,14:32
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akhil_surabhi_sledges: please have a look at this, it is the dmesg of my pc14:32
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jusa_zhxt: try paplay -v --volume=65535 file.wav from command line14:33
jusa_and paste "pactl list" output during14:34
zhxtzhxt: will do,14:34
DylanVanAsscheI would like to reset my Oneplus X port but the builtin reset doesn't work from Settings. Wit the  TWRP recovery I can achieve the same I guess? Just wipe -> flash CM -> flash SFOS
zhxtjusa_:  heard sound with paplay14:37
zhxtjusa_:  pactl list log,
zhxtcmd is  paplay -v --volume=65535 toh_attach.wav14:39
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NeKitdoes test_audio segfaulting mean problem with libhybris?14:42
zhxtjusa_: the one short 'ding' after reboot maybe not from volume key,14:42
zhxthaha, it's  start_charging.wav14:45
zhxtso, pa seems working well ?14:45
ghosalmartinzhxt, yeah thats all the sounds I got too till i built gst-droid and pulseaudio glue14:48
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zhxtghosalmartin: okay, thx, will try to build them, :D14:51
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ghosalmartinzhxt, they built fairly easily for me, so hopefully the same for you14:52
zhxtghosalmartin: haha, hope so,14:54
NeKitis there anything like test_audio built for Android?14:56
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sledgesDylanVanAssche: yes, or in TWRP simply delete /data/.stowaways/sailfishos and flash sfos (no cm wiping/flashing involved)15:12
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DylanVanAsschesledges: thanks!15:16
sledgesghosalmartin: isn't pa glue needed for phonecalls only?15:17
ghosalmartinsledges, yeah, and who doesnt love those :P15:17
sledgesghosalmartin: non-working modems? ;)15:19
ghosalmartinsledges, his is working? ;(15:19
sledgesis his? ;)15:19
ghosalmartinzhxt, it is right? :P15:19
ghosalmartinsledges, last I heard he had the sim card symbol15:19
sledgesfair, just left that here in music context ;)15:20
zhxtghosalmartin: sledges, modem is working now, but now sure about data connection,15:20
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zhxtghosalmartin: and yes. :P15:22
zhxtgot the sim card symbol, and SP name.15:23
ghosalmartintime to ring everyone you know and tell them about sfos :P15:23
ghosalmartinafter getting pulseaudio glue ;)15:23
zhxtghosalmartin:  haha, I think so,too, :D15:24
NeKithave modem icon on MTK and data connection, but can't test voice due to missing audio :(15:24
zhxtghosalmartin: but, there is a little problem with lipstic,15:25
ghosalmartinNeKit: missing audio?15:25
NeKittest_audio is crashing in driver15:25
zhxtghosalmartin: app cann't start sometimes, or make liptic crash, need time to fix15:27
ghosalmartinzhxt, fair enough15:27
ghosalmartinzhxt, what device again? 4xx chipset?15:27
sledgesNeKit: tried paplay?15:27
zhxtghosalmartin: snapdragon 820, msm899615:28
NeKitPulseAudio is crashing the same way15:28
zhxtghosalmartin: Mi 5, gemini :P15:28
NeKitso something is either with Android configuration or libhybris15:28
NeKitat least there seems to be source code for Audio HAL15:29
ghosalmartinzhxt, ahhh i always forget :P15:30
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zhxtghosalmartin: :P15:30
zhxtghosalmartin: there still a problem, that I use the you gived to me. haha15:31
zhxtghosalmartin: mine is not working...15:31
ghosalmartinzhxt, am confused why yours isn't building prpoerly :P15:32
divis1969hi, is there any guide/tutorial how to get the source code for some component (ex. test_hwcomposer), build it from source and deploy onto the target device?15:33
zhxtghosalmartin:  I will rebuild one after I cleaned up my build env, and check, (some days later)15:35
ghosalmartinzhxt, fair enough :)15:35
ghosalmartindivis1969, clone from
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ghosalmartinuse branch mm64-rpm15:36
ghosalmartinthen after changes do15:36
ghosalmartinwell you need to setup mersdk and a target15:36
ghosalmartinmb2 -t targetname -s speclocation15:36
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divis1969ghosalmartin: thank you, will try it15:51
NeKitdivis1969, does Meizu M2 mini use Mali graphics?15:52
NeKiton mine MTK device, test_hwcomposer still doesn't work, test it with qmlscene just in case15:53
ghosalmartinNeKit: am using mali graphics, ill let you know how I get on, are you using ubuntu libhybris? with --mali-quirks?16:07
* zhxt thought he should clean up his build env again... hmmm16:09
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divis1969NeKit: yes16:20
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NeKitghosalmartin, mine device has Helio X10, which is PowerVR16:21
divis1969actually, I need to debug the crash and test_hwcomposer is just an example.16:22
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divis1969ghosalmartin: how can I get that "libhybris with --mali-quirks"?16:25
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Tofesledges: you're damn good at what you're doing :) thanks for the hint, it worked!17:39
NeKitdivis1969, what libhybris version are you currently used?17:40
NeKitjust edit spec file and add that configuration option17:41
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ricmmkimmoli: hey there18:09
ricmmkimmoli: I see you were involved with fp2 porting, including some mac addr fixes18:10
ricmmwondering where I can find mer relevant repos for the android bits18:10
ricmmcurrently confused about libwcnss_qmi, not sure where to get that, doesnt seem to be available from open repos18:10
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kimmoliricmm: for onyx, in mer-hybris github18:31
kimmoliwhat i needed18:31
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saidinesh5ricmm: this commit adds that repo as part of
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ricmmkimmoli: saidinesh5 yea I saw those ones in your github before, but I wasnt sure if you had something else for fairphone19:03
ricmmthat onyx one seems to just be reading the MAC from the oem partition19:03
saidinesh5ricmm: for Xiaomi Mi3, the commit does look different19:03
ricmmwith a fake wcnss-qmi implementation19:03
saidinesh5for mi3, the mac needs to be read from qcom nv19:04
malricmm: why do you ask about fp2?19:04
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ricmmI'm trying to understand the same problem on the open android builds, and UT -- and it works fine on fp2 sailfish19:05
malricmm: ok, btw I'm the porter of sailfish for fp219:06
ricmmmal: ah very nice, I couldnt find from the sites who it was19:06
ricmmso maybe you had to deal with this one? I see it as fixed since alpha2 relase of sailfish19:06
malfp2 repos are here
malI should move those to mer-hybris19:07
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ricmmmal: anyways, my problem now is that under android open or UT the wcnss_service doesnt cannot read the mac addr from nv as it has no QMI backend19:13
ricmmsaidinesh5: do you have a pointer to the Mi3 commit? sorry19:20
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divis1969_NeKit: I do not know the libhybris version, I'm using the one that is built by build_packages.sh21:06
NeKitis it cm13 or cm12 port?21:07
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NokiusNeKit: divis1969_ has cm13 base from what I know21:10
miau_HI! Has anyone tried to enable SELinux in permissive mode on any port?21:12
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divis1969_NeKit, Nokius: no, it is cm-12.1 based21:13
divis1969_Well, I'managed to build a local libhybris but do not know how to deploy it21:14
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malcopy to the device and zypper in21:18
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divis1969_how can I copy? I have a telnet only21:19
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malfirst set password via telnet21:20
malfor nemo user21:20
divis1969_do you mean ssh is working? which port?21:21
malthe usual21:21
malmeaning the default port21:22
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divis1969_ok, I got it21:22
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ruthenianboyHello. Logic of Scratchbox2 target installation was not trivial even in previous HADK, but now I really don't know what I am doing (wrong). Someone willint to explain this to me and help with installation?
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malruthenianboy: strange, check in mersdk if cross-armv7hl-binutils is installed?23:10
malruthenianboy: same for cross-armv7hl-gcc23:11
ruthenianboymal: zypper saying they are installed23:13
malruthenianboy: I ran the same command just now and it created the target properly23:16
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malthat "fatal error: cannot find 'ld'" seems to be normal23:16
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malruthenianboy: are you sure you have all permissions etc correctly and enough disk space23:18
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ruthenianboythis part of hadk is alchemy for me. But "sdk-assistant list" list my target however gcc test is having issues and throwing "no such file" warning for input file23:19
malremove the target and try again23:20
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guhlhi, after using my thea port as my daily driver for some days i decided to publish this rom on xda in the current state23:24
guhlit's there23:24
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guhli have to confess that i like using the thea more than the C23:25
guhlbtw. does anybody know a potential RSA SoftToken application that runs or could be ported to Sailfish?23:26
guhlthats the only Android App that i need currently on the C23:27
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ruthenianboymal:home of user is on separate drive as I've ran out of space on /home FS but $MER_HOME is within user's home dir so this should be OK. Thats only one thing different from my previous build attempts23:28
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malruthenianboy: maybe some mount options are wrong, please check those23:30
malruthenianboy: especially make sure the home mount has dev and suid options (nodev and nosuid break things)23:32
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ruthenianboymal: I've seen note about nosuid but my mount params are only these: rw,relatime,data=ordered23:37
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