Monday, 2017-02-27

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kskarthik[m]Can sailfish run on kitkat based mobile which has only? 300mb ram04:31
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NeKitkskarthik[m], it might run, but unlikely to be usable, 512 mb has been considered the bare minimum so far05:48
kskarthik[m]NeKit: Oh, thanks for info!05:49
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nh1402morning08:03
ghosalmartinmorning08:03
nh1402ghosalmartin: many new smartphones announced over the weekend. LG G6, Huawei P10, and as of a few minutes ago the Sony Xperia XZs and the Sony Xperia XZ Premium08:05
ghosalmartinnh1402, meh :P08:05
nh1402still waiting on the most important announcement of MWC, Jolla's!08:05
ghosalmartinnh1402, thats the important one tbh08:05
ghosalmartinI know Jolla won't be releasing some horrible 5.7 inch screen08:06
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ghosalmartinanyone know what time thye'll be on? or a live stream for it?08:06
nh1402ghosalmartin: Monday, February 27, 2017, 12pm (noon)08:08
ghosalmartinnh1402, ahhh awesome :)08:09
nh1402ghosalmartin: Fira Congress Hotel, Carrer Jose Agustín Goytisolo, 9-11.  If you plan to catch a flight and go to the press event in person08:09
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nh1402ghosalmartin: I'm assuming 12pm is CET, so it'll be 13:00 UK time, just in time for my lunch break.08:10
ghosalmartinnh1402, ah good good :) am waiting for the next jolla phone :P08:11
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Tofenh1402: wouldn't it be 11:00am UK time ?08:16
Tofe(just would be sad to miss the live just because of a miscalculation :) )08:17
nh1402Tofe: I'm sure it's an hour ahead of the UK.08:18
nh1402Tofe: ah right yes08:18
nh1402my mistake08:18
nh1402Tofe: you're right08:18
nh1402ghosalmartin: 11am UK time08:18
Tofe:)08:18
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ghosalmartinnh1402, thanks man :) not long to go then :)08:19
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ghosalmartinTofe: cheers for that too :P08:26
ghosalmartinanyone know how I can disable pulseaudio service, I can't find the .service fikle08:26
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Tofeghosalmartin: there's no "pulseaudio" when you grep the whole systemd folder ?08:58
TofeI would have also said "pulseaudio.service", but I guess you already tried :)08:59
ghosalmartinTofe ill check again tbh09:01
Mister_Magisternh1402: if it will be 11 in UK then 12 in utc+1? i'm lost09:03
Mister_Magisterand where i can watch live?09:03
a__picurrently uk time 09:03 bcn time 10:0309:03
a__piI can't found a live stream :(09:04
Mister_Magisterah so it will be at bcn time? it's my time yaay i'll be back home09:04
nh1402Mister_Magister: 11am GMT09:07
Mister_Magisterso 12 gmt+109:10
Mister_Magisterits 12 in my place09:10
a__pihttps://blog.jolla.com/mobile-world-congress-2017/09:10
a__pii think its 12:00 bcn time09:10
Mister_Magisterright now in my place is 10:10 and in uk it's 9:10 so it will be 12:00 here09:11
a__piyes09:11
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nh1402yes09:12
Mister_Magisteri just have to find live. im at math lesson now but jolla is life :D09:12
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ghosalmartinany gots url? :P11:00
Mister_Magisternope :/11:00
ghosalmartinhttps://www.mobileworldlive.com/keynote-stream/11:00
ghosalmartinI think its that?11:01
Mister_Magisteri cannot watch on sailfish :\ bad codec11:04
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ghosalmartinah dears :P11:04
taaemThere is nothing on that stream currently just music playing11:05
ghosalmartinI dont think its the right stream11:05
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ghosalmartinstream at all from anyone?11:25
Nokiusghosalmartin: use twitter search for hastags :P11:30
Mister_Magisterjolla bot is retweeting everything with jolla hashtag :D11:31
T4<Mıkaela> #jollafanclub seems to be following https://twitter.com/JulianChokkattu/11:36
kskarthik[m]So, a Sony phone with sailfish os!11:39
Nokiusor in other words Sony open device Project supports SFOS11:41
kskarthik[m]Nokius: wow!11:41
kskarthik[m]Hope someone show some love to my Sony Z3C 😯11:42
Nokiuskskarthik[m]: let's see if open device supports SFOS the red parts will trun green soon(tm)11:44
r0kk3rzNokius: sounds like we will need to switch do unified kernel and AOSP11:44
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ghosalmartinwutt11:55
ghosalmartinlooks like am buying a sony phone...11:55
Nokiusghosalmartin: the Z5 premium :P11:56
ghosalmartinNokius, isnt it the X?11:56
Nokiusghosalmartin: every open deivce is great HW11:56
Mister_Magisteri'm going for inoi and moto x (i'll make port, i'll never buy phone with port already)11:56
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Nokiusghosalmartin: I hope I can polish the Z3 tablet11:56
ghosalmartinAhh man I thought theyd show the Balmer developers video :P11:57
Mister_Magisterfree devices for developers, maybe we will get some :v11:58
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NokiusMister_Magister: u have SailfishOs ports  :P12:00
Mister_Magisterwhat?12:01
NokiusMister_Magister: us have Ports why u liek to have mainstream HW :P12:02
Mister_Magistershhh nobody must know :D12:03
NokiusMister_Magister: isn't it cooler to made the phone of choice to boot your OS of choice :P12:03
Mister_Magisteri want to have jolla devices as jolla fanboy :D12:03
NokiusMister_Magister: u have hat :D12:03
NokiusMister_Magister: fanboy level 10012:04
Nokiushehe12:04
r0kk3rzi have a hat AND a tshirt12:04
r0kk3rzgo me12:04
Mister_MagisterNokius: hat isn't a phone i need phone too :D and pinbutton on backpack :D12:04
Mister_Magisteri'll have tshirt too12:04
r0kk3rzand a button on my bag12:04
r0kk3rzand stickers12:04
Mister_Magisterr0kk3rz: i have stickers too :D12:04
r0kk3rzsledges might have loaded me up a bit in london meetup12:05
Mister_Magisterhaha :D12:05
ghosalmartinr0kk3rz, me too :D i should of worn it today :/12:05
Mister_MagisterNokius: i'll buy moto x force (my choose) and port sfos but i want jolla device too :D12:05
Nokiusr0kk3rz: u need pints?12:05
ghosalmartinthe jolla stickers are currently all over my colleagues machines :P12:06
Nokiusghosalmartin: weel done :D12:06
Nokiuss/weel/well/12:07
Mister_Magistermy brother was using android and windows phone. now he has jolla :D i need to convert my mother using inoi too :D12:07
Mister_Magisterwar of who is bigger fanboy? :D12:07
r0kk3rzme, no contest12:08
Mister_Magister:D12:08
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Mister_Magister_hmm how can i check notification led? It's probably broken from no reason14:23
Mister_Magister_for*14:23
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kimmoliMister_Magister_: /sys/class/leds14:23
kimmolimaybe14:24
Mister_Magister_kimmoli: echo 1 > something?14:27
kimmolipastebin ll14:28
Mister_Magister_okay14:28
kimmolii check is there something that should be supported14:28
kimmolimce searches suitable filenames14:29
Mister_Magister_kimmoli: http://pastebin.com/Rwve6Emx14:29
Mister_Magister_kimmoli: sometimes it's working but almost all of the time not like when charging or turing on/off14:31
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kimmolithat looks strage. just "rgb"14:31
Mister_Magisterand just white14:31
Mister_Magisteri don't have rgb though14:32
kimmolisee what is in white/max_brightness14:32
kimmoliand in rgb/max_brightness14:32
Mister_Magister255 in white14:32
kimmoliand echo -n that to brightness14:32
kimmolisee what happens14:32
Mister_Magisteri think white is correct i remember something14:32
kimmolibut does something happen on rgb?14:33
kimmolii dont remember what mce does for single led14:33
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Mister_Magisterin rgb max brightness is 255 too14:33
Mister_Magisterhere i have to echo?14:33
Mister_Magisterecho to white/brightness is working14:34
Mister_Magisterbut i'm charging my phone and led is off14:34
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kimmoliyou need to check mce debug outputs14:39
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Mister_Magisterhow14:39
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kimmolimultiple ways. edit service file, add -v or something14:41
Mister_Magisterkimmoli: can i kill it and start with -v?14:43
Mister_Magistermanually?14:43
kimmolistop with systemctl14:44
kimmolithen start from cli14:44
Mister_Magisterstart with hand :D14:44
Mister_Magisteroaky14:44
kimmolicheck .Service with args14:44
kimmolifor*14:44
Mister_Magisterargs... /usr/sbin/mce --systemd yeah...14:45
Mister_Magisteri started it from cli, what now?14:45
Mister_Magisterhuh? led is working14:46
Mister_Magisterprobably just restart mce fixes it14:47
kimmolitry replug charger14:48
Mister_Magisterso i'll add -v to the systemd service and reboot14:48
Mister_Magisterdisconnect for a second (as you wish)14:48
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Mister_Magisteryep it's working14:48
Mister_Magisteri'll add -v option and reboot phone that will be good i think14:49
Mister_Magisterbrb14:49
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spiiroinMister_Magister: remember that most led patterns light up led only when display is off ...14:57
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spiiroinshutdown led is one of those that should always do something, activate it -> "mcetool -y PatternPowerOff"14:58
Mister_Magisterspiiroin: i know but my phone doesn't do that (it did) and i want to know why14:58
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Mister_Magisterspiiroin: it was working and now (without reason) it's not14:59
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spiiroinMister_Magister: ok, if needed I can help with debugging - after a while. need to go to store & get stuff14:59
Mister_Magisterkimmoli: spiiroin maybe you will find something there http://pastebin.com/g9R0sttW14:59
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Mister_Magisterspiiroin: thanks :)14:59
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Mister_Magisterhmmm Feb 27 15:52:01 Sailfish mce[784]: hybris-lights.c: hybris_device_indicator_init(): failed to open indicator led device15:09
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Mister_Magisterkimmoli: any idea?15:09
kimmolimaybe it does not find suitable led? spiiroin is here, he knows mce :) i'm just guessing15:10
Mister_Magisterokay so i'll just wait for spiiroin ;)15:11
Mister_Magisterspiiroin: actually mcetool -y PatternPowerOff turns led on15:12
Mister_Magister:O15:12
Mister_Magisterand again after that (and mcetool -Y PatternPowerOff) it's working correctly15:13
Mister_Magisterlike it's blocking15:13
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piggzGood stuff in mwv15:37
piggzS/mwc15:37
piggzCongrats to sailors15:38
kskarthik[m]piggz: yeah! The Sony news is exciting15:42
piggzYup15:43
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spiiroinMister_Magister: judging by logs: mce finds no known sysfs control files and android hal is reported missing too -> led control should not work...15:59
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spiiroin... but it seems to be the latest mce-plugin-libhybris -> a lot of refactoring in blind -> can't be 100% sure it is not just logging error16:00
Mister_Magisterspiiroin: i can update it16:00
Mister_Magisterif it's outdated16:01
spiiroinMister_Magister: it is the latest, just that I made a lot of changes - all of which could not be tested16:01
Mister_Magisterokay16:01
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spiiroinMister_Magister: but... you said mce restart makes it work?16:01
Mister_Magisteryep and mcetool -y PatternPowerOff -> mcetool -Y PatternPowerOff16:02
spiiroinso does not work after reboot, but works if mce is restarted after bootup?16:02
Mister_Magisteryep16:02
Mister_Magisterwe can always make ugly hack... hahahahahadhahaha :D16:02
spiiroinMister_Magister: okay... after being puzzled for a while - could be that: a) android hal works, but b) something needs to be running before it does16:02
Mister_Magisteri have this problem since i moved to cm12.116:03
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spiirointhe funny thing is that apart from jolla1 I16:03
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spiiroin've not seen android lights hal work with leds16:03
Mister_Magisterlol16:04
Mister_Magister(i don't understand at all but lol)16:04
spiiroinMister_Magister: I spent some time to have "generic android support" for leds; then no device supported the api16:04
spiiroinMister_Magister: if there are sysfs control files, it probably would be easiest to just teach them to the plugin16:05
spiiroinanother alternative would be to change mce somehow - like telling it to do led probing later in the bootup -> a bit bigger change16:06
a__pianyone knows where salfish saves contacts and sms ?16:06
Mister_Magisterspiiroin: look at this https://github.com/MisterMagisterDev/droid-config-titan/blob/master/sparse/usr/bin/droid/lipstick-hack.sh maybe this is a reason?16:06
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spiiroinMister_Magister: probably not - more like sensorfwd that on some devices can use sensors only some android service has been started16:08
Mister_Magisterwait a second16:08
Mister_Magisterthis is the only sensorfw change https://github.com/MisterMagisterDev/droid-config-titan/blob/hybris-12.1/sparse/etc/sensorfw/primaryuse.conf16:09
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spiiroinMister_Magister: looking at the paste above -> "ls  /sys/class/leds/white/*bright" gives brightness & max_brightness files?16:09
Mister_Magisteryep16:09
spiiroinand "echo > /sys/class/leds/white/brightness N" turns on the led for nonzero values of N?16:10
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Mister_Magisterspiiroin: echo N > yes16:11
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spiiroinMister_Magister: ok, so adjusting the "binary" led backend a bit might work... a sec16:11
Mister_Magisterokay16:12
Mister_Magisterlbt: ping16:12
Mister_Magistergosh when will mwc end? I need sledges :D16:12
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spiiroinMister_Magister: this might get something working... https://github.com/spiiroin/mce-plugin-libhybris/tree/wip_white_led16:16
malspiiroin: I have seen some funny things on fp2 related to LEDs, for example in CSD tool the LED test the blinking white led actually shows all LED colors one after another so the timing are off for blinking16:19
Mister_Magisterlol16:20
Mister_Magisterthe funny thing is that it was working correctly on cm1116:20
spiiroinmal: that occasionally happens on j1 too; but never when trying to figure out where the timing glitch could occur ...16:21
malspiiroin: ok, need to do some more testing on FP2 to see what works and what doesn't16:21
spiiroinmal: I kind of know how it could happen on j1, but other devices - would need to get it reliably reproducible (and preferably have the device at hand ;-)16:22
malspiiroin: on FP2 that seems quite easy to reproduce16:23
kimmolii had to 'fix' onyx kernel led drivers to work properly with mce16:23
spiiroinmal: but, if it happens somewhat reliably for you - you could try making the SYSFS_LED_KERNEL_DELAY constant a bit longer. say 50 ms or so16:23
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malspiiroin: ok, I'll check that16:23
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spiiroinmal: j1 kernel does some led stuff in (afaict not too tightly controlled) kernel worker -> adjusting blinking too often makes things go oddly wrong16:24
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Mister_Magisterspiiroin: can i just add your repo with that fix to obs and check it out?16:26
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Mister_Magister_spiiroin: it's working but.... brightness is 116:44
Mister_Magister_and now it's blinking with no reason16:44
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ruthenianboy_good evening17:41
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Mister_Magisterspiiroin: are you there?17:54
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ruthenianboy_what is the way to fix no audio and vibration?18:23
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kimmoliruthenianboy_: timed or memless? timed you should be able to test via sysfs18:47
kimmoliruthenianboy_: vibrator that is18:47
kimmolior with test_vibrator18:49
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ruthenianboy_kimmoli: test_vibrator works18:50
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ruthenianboy_audio dont work sue to missing symbol so I know what to do with this problem18:53
ruthenianboy_s/sue/due18:53
kimmolido you have droid-hal-vibrator and such packages?18:53
ruthenianboy_kimmoli: no :D18:53
kimmolii dont have device with timed at hand so cant check what they were18:53
kimmolibut they were the default ones in droid-configs18:54
kimmoliif have_vibrator is set18:54
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wdehoogI'd like to build a working 2.1 image for my phone (oneplus one). it seems I need a special repo in obs or build everything local. is that correct?19:10
wdehoogbuilding everything locally seems a pain to setup. but a new obs seems complicated as well19:11
wdehoogwhat would be wise?19:11
ruthenianboy_kimmoli: looks like I was in real rush and need to fine tune now19:12
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kimmoliwdehoog: https://build.merproject.org/project/meta/nemo:devel:hw:oneplus:bacon19:15
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kimmolithat needs 2.1.0.9 repo19:16
wdehoogkimmoli: you mean I should add myself as maintainer? if so is there a special 'create 2.1 repo' button?19:16
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kimmolivery special19:17
kimmoliyou can kliketiklik or copy it to that xml19:17
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wdehoognow where is this secret 'save' button?19:19
kimmoliping one of the existing maintainers to add you there19:20
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kimmolisledges is in mwc eveningpartee most propably19:21
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wdehoogsledges: ping can you please add me to the maintainers of https://build.merproject.org/project/meta/nemo:devel:hw:oneplus:bacon19:21
wdehoogyes it will take some time19:21
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wdehoogkimmoli: forgive for asking more. If the repo is created is following the faq and coping stuff as present in other devices repos (onyx fp2) enough?19:22
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wdehoogor should I copy all from the present repo?19:23
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kimmoliöö. if you make a copy of that in your obs home, you need to patternize it abyway19:24
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kimmolibut if you add 2.1.0.9 as target there, and bring it up to date (?)19:25
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kimmolii have also bacon, but not tinkered with it yet19:25
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wdehoogthis patternizing is a very mysterious word. only for initiated ones. what does it mean, why and how do you do that?19:26
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spiiroinMister_Magister: that was just crude hack using jolla-c backend (really limited led hw; needs special /etc/mce side config to make any sense)20:21
spiiroinif your white led has working intensity control , then it probably makes sense to use completely separate backend for it20:22
Mister_Magisterspiiroin: ah okay. it's really weird that after restarting it's working and yet we have so much work to get it working20:22
Mister_Magisterspiiroin: how can i check that?20:24
spiiroinecho low (~1) values to the brightness sysfs; then high values (̃~255 / whatever max_brightness contains)20:25
spiiroinhopefully there is brightness change20:25
spiiroin(jolla c kernel gives 0-255 range, but effectively it is 0-1 ...)20:25
spiirointhere the led is just connected to gpio output without any pwm controller or like that would make it possible to control brightness20:26
Mister_Magisterspiiroin: i don't understand what you mean but brightness is 1 (and it's really dark) and max-brightness is 255 end if i echo 255 > brightness then i have full bright20:29
spiiroinMister_Magister: ok, larger brightness number -> brighter led = what I needed ;-)20:29
spiiroinMister_Magister: are you familiar with mer bugzilla? having mer bug (for mce) with device details might be helpful20:31
malspiiroin: it seems LED handling is pretty much broken on fp2, not sure why though, the paths work but mce won't20:32
Mister_Magisterspiiroin: i were there once, never got an answer20:32
Mister_Magisterspiiroin: its really really weird that it work20:33
Mister_Magisterafter reboot20:33
Mister_Magisterrestart*20:33
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spiiroinMister_Magister: that part is actually quite logical; mce starts before something the android hal needs to handle the leds -> using android api does not work when mce tries it; if mce is restarted later on -> android hal is ready & led works20:45
spiiroin... or at least I'll assume that is what it is ;-)20:45
Mister_Magisterspiiroin: so let's fox that "something"20:46
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spiiroinmal: there might be some config things in device tree - different operation/control modes or so (kimmoli tweaked something like that for some device?); or driver updates? for example n5 has/had kernel space soft-blink that made some things impossible (mce got blocked at sysfs write for ~30ms or so which then shattered mce responsiveness and shot up cpu usage)20:52
Mister_Magisterspiiroin: do you have any idea how to fix that?20:53
malspiiroin: this has all of the same files in sys/class as onyx, it is detected as vanilla as it should20:53
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spiiroinMister_Magister: yeah, it should not be difficult20:57
malspiiroin: I'll need to add some debug printing to the LED code in mce-plugin-libhybris to see what it's trying to do20:57
Mister_Magisterspiiroin: so can you help me please?20:57
spiiroinmal: one thing to check out would be: is it just just blinking patterns that fail? blinking patterns that use >1 channel? etc20:58
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malspiiroin: all fail20:58
malspiiroin: afaik20:59
spiiroinmal: even static colors?20:59
malyes20:59
spiiroinok that is weird20:59
spiiroinMister_Magister: I can do the impl, just not right now - need to get some sleep soonish20:59
Mister_Magisterspiiroin: ah okay okay can i ping you tomorrow?21:00
spiiroinMister_Magister: sure21:00
Mister_Magisterokay see you then ;)21:00
malspiiroin: what should the permissions be for the stuff in sys, by default only blink and brightness had system:system as owner:group, others had root:root21:01
spiiroinmal: do mce restarts make any difference? there might also be some kernel side led triggers (like charging/battery full detected from kernel -> turns led on directly from kernel)21:01
malspiiroin: nope, although I do testing via usb so it's charging all the time21:02
spiiroinif those are set, they can make odd things happen - usually on bootup (as writing the controls from userspace = disables the triggers)21:02
spiiroinmal: writing brightness=1 to all channels and then brightness=0 -> should clear the triggers21:02
spiiroinmal: but adding debug logging is probably the way to go sooner or later21:03
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malspiiroin: no help writing those values to brightness21:05
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malspiiroin: found something, mce-plugin-libhybris 1.7.0 works but newer version doesn't21:09
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malspiiroin: maybe this breaks something https://github.com/nemomobile/mce-plugin-libhybris/commit/19e399a97b4a976e2c61d847c5bf458548b32ea621:09
malkimmoli: what were the kernel changes that requires?21:10
maland why would that break also static patterns21:12
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malhmm, wondering if there is some way to downgrade a package during OTA?21:19
Mister_Magistermal: are you about to get some sleep or can you take a look at some logs?21:22
maljust about to go offline21:26
Mister_Magisteroh :/21:28
Mister_Magisterso i'll try to take it21:28
malMister_Magister: what is the problem?21:28
Mister_Magistermal: xperia z2. on old build 2.0.2.51 it was working but now on 2.0.5.6 lipstick cannot start21:29
Mister_Magisterlipstick.service: main process exited, code=killed, status=6/ABRT21:29
Mister_MagisterHwComposerBackend::create:74 - QPA-HWC: hw_get_module(HWC_HARDWARE_MODULE_ID, (const hw_module_t **)(&hwc_module)) in create returned -221:29
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malMister_Magister: so what has changed? that shouldn't be caused by sailfish changes, did you rebuild all packages etc?21:30
Mister_Magisteryes, thre is no change21:30
Mister_Magistermaybe in some packages that are built by build_packages21:31
Mister_Magisteri was wondering what was changed but repo status shows only installroot and other like that21:31
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Mister_Magisterhttp://pastebin.com/17t9q8SW and here http://pastebin.com/DFUCe9vB21:32
Mister_Magisterofono was working too21:33
Mister_Magisterwait cannot find '/usr/libexec/droid-hybris/system/bin/minimediaservice', disabling 'minimedia'21:35
Mister_Magisterand minisf. there is something wrong21:35
malare you sure your droid-hal and related packages are ok?21:35
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ruthenianboyI am trying to compile modified libaudioroute library and I am getting this: http://pastebin.com/2BWJKAtu . Any ideas?21:48
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ruthenianboyOk, this was required for build. https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_external_tinyalsa22:00
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ruthenianboyHmm, I am facing many missing libraries symbols. LD_SHIM_LIBS should do the trick in this case as those symbols are in existing shim libraries. But it is not working properly somehow22:35
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