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| merbot | MeowDude: loljimmo12 was last seen in #sailfishos-porters 2 years, 24 weeks, 3 days, 16 hours, 47 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <loljimmo12> every replacement rild that I place in the system is met with rejection | 02:01 |
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| MeowDude | oy vey mozilla location services here are garbage | 03:07 |
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| rinigus | r0kk3rz: do you know if tablet uses different keyboard qml? screenshot, please :) | 03:51 |
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| MeowDude | how are there no sfos ports to LG devices... do devs just hate LG? | 04:58 |
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| MeowDude | does Sailfish OS support dual camera? | 05:26 |
| MeowDude | if not I am sure you can just configure it to use one or the other | 05:26 |
| NerdyPepper | lg nexus? | 05:37 |
| NerdyPepper | nexus 5 i mean. | 05:38 |
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| shark | r0kk3rz : You remembered me for something? | 05:53 |
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| shark1 | I will always read logs even If I havent logged in. And that nick has been registered by someone else | 05:55 |
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| rinigus | kimmoli: image is available at https://kuqrhldx.e24files.com/sfos-beta-7.tar . I'll remove it later when you are done with it | 06:28 |
| kimmoli | ok | 06:28 |
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| rinigus | kimmoli: as for testing it - flashed and seemed to be fine. but it's not a test like using it for weeks :) | 06:29 |
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| kimmoli | rinigus: done. .ks missing ? | 06:50 |
| rinigus | kimmoli: a sec, let me upload it | 06:50 |
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| rinigus | kimmoli: https://kuqrhldx.e24files.com/Jolla-2.1.4.14-onyx-armv7hl.ks [ for some reason its not generated anymore as a part of release folder ] | 06:56 |
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| kimmoli | rinigus: ok. that looks like a template? | 06:58 |
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| rinigus | kimmoli: that's template indeed, which I used to generate image. I guess we have to skip .ks then | 07:00 |
| kimmoli | i pushed it in images, so if this is what it nowadays needs, then let it be like that. | 07:01 |
| rinigus | kimmoli: wait a bit, I think I know what happened. I'll try to generate ks again, I might have deleted it by accident last night. give me 15-45 mins | 07:04 |
| kimmoli | ok | 07:06 |
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| MeowDude | I i had 5 cents for every time I saw "(Not Responding)" in windows 10 I would have as much money as Bill Gates himself | 07:28 |
| MeowDude | which I am conscious doesn't actually own microsoft anymore, but still. | 07:28 |
| MeowDude | how can such a mainstream PC operating system be so horribly un-optimized and full of issues? | 07:28 |
| kimmoli | thats just lazy programmers blocking ui thread with stuff they should be doing somewhere else | 07:33 |
| rinigus | kimmoli: ks updated | 07:34 |
| MeowDude | I wish I could use linux | 07:34 |
| MeowDude | Ubuntu was faster, more stable, and had support for all the stuff I wanted | 07:35 |
| kimmoli | rinigus: curled in place | 07:36 |
| rinigus | kimmoli: ? i pushed it into the same url. if that's what you mean... | 07:38 |
| kimmoli | jep | 07:38 |
| kimmoli | PSA: Onyx 2.1.4.14 released, see http://images.devaamo.fi/sfe/onyx/beta-7/ | 07:39 |
| rinigus | :) | 07:41 |
| rinigus | kimmoli: xda? | 07:41 |
| kimmoli | taaem: ^ | 07:41 |
| Mister_Magister | Hi kimmoli rinigus | 07:42 |
| rinigus | morning | 07:42 |
| MeowDude | I was just looking at buying an reselling an onyx with sailfish os | 07:43 |
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| rinigus | kimmoli: should we start dropping this "beta" tag and just make releases in accordance with the versions in future? aka 2.1.4.14-1 | 08:08 |
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| r0kk3rz | shark: did you ever release an image for your port? it was lemax 2 right? | 08:24 |
| kimmoli | rinigus: i tried to figure that out earlier, but did not get any final decision to it. | 08:26 |
| kimmoli | maybe when the compass is working (waiting mal to push fixies out there) | 08:26 |
| MeowDude | jusa: so have you any idea what my audio issues are caused by? Is it a kernel issue? mw issue? | 08:27 |
| r0kk3rz | rinigus: https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmfBvQ6mVRtAZyXk4N5pKYFb7Df54RdfQwe2p1FHHsHJaW | 08:34 |
| rinigus | kimmoli: that's a good target (compass). I remember that discussion and as far as I understand it's up to porters | 08:35 |
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| rinigus | r0kk3rz: we limited number of predictions, there is an issue filed on allowing users to specify it via configuration dialogue. however, I am not aware of anyone working on it now | 08:39 |
| Nokius | r0kk3rz: nice :) | 08:46 |
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| r0kk3rz | rinigus: the number is fine, its just all bunched up to the left is all | 08:51 |
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| mal | kimmoli: rinigus the compass change is quite dramatic so we need to plan together with jolla how to proceed with that | 08:54 |
| rinigus | r0kk3rz: on phone its usually doesn't fit, hence the left adjustment. but I can see it could be a problem. you could always suggest a patch, though :) | 08:56 |
| rinigus | mal: we are not in a rush. would be good to do something besides porting... | 08:57 |
| r0kk3rz | rinigus: ill have to compare to xt9 | 08:57 |
| mal | rinigus: also based on my testing the new sensor system produces more events than the old so there is some issue with setting event delay or something | 08:58 |
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| shark1 | r0kk3rz : no, I havent released.(Just gave it to few people to test) | 09:05 |
| shark1 | Yes it is Le Max2 | 09:06 |
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| shark1 | I have issues with camera, the flash is badly out of sync so I didnt release everything else is fine. 3 main bugs only currently. | 09:07 |
| Mister_Magister | shark1: release it | 09:08 |
| Mister_Magister | It doesnt have to be perfect | 09:09 |
| MeowDude | I shouldn't have released | 09:09 |
| MeowDude | you are a good example shark | 09:09 |
| Mister_Magister | And its hard to make it oerfect | 09:09 |
| MeowDude | also jusa: please bueti | 09:09 |
| Mister_Magister | Sometimes impossible | 09:09 |
| shark1 | Mister_Magister : no it could be perfect with hybris-14.1 | 09:09 |
| Mister_Magister | Amd flash is shit dont use it xD | 09:09 |
| MeowDude | Mister_Magister: its hard to get it to beta quality, and nothing is impossible | 09:09 |
| Mister_Magister | I think ill port leeco lepro3elite | 09:10 |
| shark1 | coz I have OSS hals for camera in los 15.1 | 09:10 |
| MeowDude | thats what my mom told me when I said i wanted to become an astronut | 09:10 |
| MeowDude | wait | 09:10 |
| MeowDude | los 15.1? | 09:10 |
| MeowDude | is hybris 15.1 out? | 09:10 |
| Mister_Magister | shark1: so youbare waiting for hybris15? | 09:10 |
| MeowDude | oh | 09:10 |
| shark1 | Mister_Magister : yes | 09:10 |
| Mister_Magister | Same as me lol | 09:10 |
| shark1 | lol | 09:11 |
| Mister_Magister | For me on 15 mainline kernel is waiting | 09:11 |
| shark1 | wait 15 or 15.1? | 09:11 |
| Mister_Magister | Doesnt matter | 09:11 |
| MeowDude | lol I would love to port to Droid 2 Global just to see if it can be done | 09:12 |
| shark1 | Mister_Magister : btw my phone has good camera, Iam no way going further without perfecting it :p | 09:12 |
| MeowDude | it has an OMAP3640 | 09:12 |
| MeowDude | or 3460... | 09:12 |
| MeowDude | I need to build CyanogenMod 10.1 for it | 09:12 |
| Mister_Magister | shark1: if it has good camera dont use flash | 09:12 |
| shark1 | Mister_Magister : well 15 is depreciated and los also released only 15.1 | 09:12 |
| Mister_Magister | Its onkt breaking photos | 09:12 |
| Mister_Magister | And how was porting? | 09:12 |
| Mister_Magister | I never played with leeco | 09:12 |
| shark1 | .Mister_Magister : well low light conditions | 09:13 |
| MeowDude | shark1 I second that, in most cases just dropping it to low light mode works, even at night, and this is on Photon Q | 09:13 |
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| MeowDude | the stock camera app is really good | 09:13 |
| Mister_Magister | Even in lowlight | 09:13 |
| Mister_Magister | Flash is only for documents | 09:13 |
| Mister_Magister | And flashlight | 09:13 |
| shark1 | Mister_Magister : leeco porting fairly easy. Look at le eco, good hardware at very cheap prices | 09:14 |
| jusa | MeowDude: did you take strace from pulseaudio? | 09:14 |
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| Mister_Magister | lbt-: could you patternise both devel and testing of motorola:ghost?X | 09:16 |
| shark1 | Mister_Magister : Le max2 is a carbon copy of one plus 3 at a cheaper price :p | 09:16 |
| Mister_Magister | Nah lepro3elite | 09:16 |
| Mister_Magister | Its cheap and my friend will get one tok | 09:16 |
| Mister_Magister | Too | 09:16 |
| Mister_Magister | I wanna christianise him | 09:16 |
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| shark1 | Mister_Magister : well yes z|1 (Le Pro3 lite) has better battery. | 09:18 |
| shark1 | But inferior camera, display | 09:18 |
| shark1 | and costs more than max2 | 09:18 |
| rinigus | mal: are those extra events missed using the current system or just reported sometimes twice? easy to ask, pain to find out... | 09:18 |
| T4 | <abhishek_0> Hey shark1 .. how's your port going? | 09:18 |
| shark1 | abishek_0: Its done. Its fairly stable | 09:19 |
| T4 | <abhishek_0> Cool .. you got rid of all the bugs? | 09:19 |
| mal | rinigus: I think there are no missing events, my system is just setting the delay incorrectly and the android side sends more events | 09:19 |
| shark1 | abhishek_0 : yes, almost. | 09:20 |
| MeowDude | jusa: you never told me what exactly to strace | 09:20 |
| Mister_Magister | Elite not lite | 09:20 |
| T4 | <abhishek_0> Hehe almost? | 09:20 |
| mal | MeowDude: pulseaudio | 09:20 |
| MeowDude | what do I put after strace in "strace _____" | 09:20 |
| MeowDude | Ill do that after my jog | 09:20 |
| mal | MeowDude: you put the same command you used when running pulseaudio manually | 09:21 |
| shark1 | abhishek_0: yes, camera works but flash sync is very bad. It has dual flash so one flash goes off before pic is captured and one flaash goes off when pic is taken and pic will be all white :p | 09:21 |
| Mister_Magister | shark1: not lite but elite | 09:21 |
| shark1 | Mister_Magister : Yup, Z|1 is elite only.. I knew you made a typo :p | 09:22 |
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| Mister_Magister | You made typo | 09:23 |
| Mister_Magister | Not me | 09:23 |
| shark1 | It got nothing better except battery :p | 09:23 |
| shark1 | lol I made a typo :p didnt notice xD | 09:23 |
| Mister_Magister | Lepro3 vs lepro3elite us that elite have 820 instead of 821 | 09:23 |
| shark1 | oh wait its lepro3elite :p there is no lineage os for that | 09:25 |
| Mister_Magister | There is | 09:25 |
| shark1 | its code name is z|1? | 09:26 |
| Mister_Magister | I dont know | 09:26 |
| shark1 | Well there isnt lineage for that. Dont know if lineage of le pro3 works on it. Just like One plus 3 and 3t | 09:27 |
| r0kk3rz | Nokius: built image yet? | 09:30 |
| Mister_Magister | It sure does | 09:30 |
| Mister_Magister | Its same phone | 09:30 |
| Mister_Magister | Same hw | 09:30 |
| shark1 | yes but sd821 is a little overclocked version of sd820 | 09:30 |
| Mister_Magister | Doubt? Both are 8996 | 09:30 |
| shark1 | so performance might be little down | 09:31 |
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| shark1 | oh wait. There will not be issues now I see.. | 09:31 |
| Mister_Magister | Yep | 09:32 |
| Mister_Magister | Same kernel same everything | 09:32 |
| shark1 | r0kk3rz : any specific reason for asking about the release? | 09:32 |
| Mister_Magister | Only difderence is 820 and 821 | 09:32 |
| Mister_Magister | But they are both 8996 | 09:32 |
| Mister_Magister | Same as 400 and 410 | 09:32 |
| shark1 | you know there are unnofficial phones also by le eco :p | 09:32 |
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| Mister_Magister | What? | 09:32 |
| shark1 | and unofficial eui(like miui) release | 09:33 |
| Mister_Magister | When i fet it ill unlock it and flash sfos | 09:33 |
| shark1 | Mister_Magister : Phones sold without official release :p | 09:33 |
| Mister_Magister | Dont care bout eui | 09:33 |
| Mister_Magister | Lol | 09:33 |
| shark1 | Mister_Magister : yes, but I pity those who bought unofficial phone :P | 09:34 |
| Mister_Magister | Why | 09:34 |
| shark1 | well there will be no wide userbase and hence no development | 09:34 |
| Mister_Magister | DID I EVER TOLD YOU HOW AWESOME AMOLED IS? ;( | 09:34 |
| Mister_Magister | Ahhh | 09:35 |
| shark1 | Mister_Magister : yup amoled is really awesome.. feels like butter | 09:35 |
| shark1 | Mister_Magister : And there was one more unreleased phone, Le Max Pro, which was the first sd820 phone with some stellar wifi capability. | 09:36 |
| Mister_Magister | This black... | 09:36 |
| Mister_Magister | Stellar wifi? | 09:36 |
| shark1 | someone even leaked qualcom sd 820 source code to build lineage for that | 09:36 |
| Mister_Magister | shark1: https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/8dzf1h/can_sailfishos_into_unix_porn/ | 09:37 |
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| shark1 | Mister_Magister : I mean it supported wifi ad, it was the first sd 820 device | 09:40 |
| Mister_Magister | Wifi ad? | 09:40 |
| shark1 | https://www.qualcomm.com/solutions/networking/features/80211ad | 09:42 |
| r0kk3rz | shark1: nothing specific, it just came up the other day | 09:42 |
| Mister_Magister | You could just told | 09:42 |
| Mister_Magister | 802.11ad | 09:42 |
| r0kk3rz | shark1: it'd be nice if you released a build and put some information on the wiki if most things work | 09:43 |
| Mister_Magister | Yeo | 09:44 |
| Mister_Magister | And make xda rhread | 09:44 |
| Mister_Magister | Thread* | 09:44 |
| r0kk3rz | i should probably make an xda thread for scorpion, its fairly ready to be widely distributed i think | 09:47 |
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| r0kk3rz | maybe once we get the modem working | 09:49 |
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| vknecht | hello | 09:53 |
| vknecht | why not a grouped release and announce, say next week-end ? :-) didn't really advertise my port neither... | 09:54 |
| Mister_Magister | Well i can release random g3 too xD | 09:54 |
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| shark1 | r0kk3rz: Ok, I will make soon. Most of the things work. | 10:01 |
| Mister_Magister | G3 is ridiculously random | 10:02 |
| Mister_Magister | Imagine having 4 exact same devices | 10:02 |
| Mister_Magister | 1 everything works, 2 wifi wont modprobe, 3 random reboots and slow animations 4 doesnt instp | 10:03 |
| Mister_Magister | Install* | 10:03 |
| shark1 | Mister_Magister : well its name was wifi ad so mentioned that :p | 10:05 |
| Mister_Magister | Heh | 10:05 |
| Mister_Magister | You have pretty long response times xD | 10:05 |
| shark1 | Mister_Magister : sorry, was having lunch | 10:06 |
| Mister_Magister | No prob | 10:06 |
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| MeowDudeM | jusa: this is the first one, I will grab another strace just to be safe, I need to reapply that module-load load-module-protocol-native-unix | 10:49 |
| MeowDudeM | wow gps works neat | 10:50 |
| MeowDudeM | that actually fixed itself | 10:51 |
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| MeowDudeM | jusa: another f***ing strace (these take a while to highlight and copy in terminal :P) https://gist.github.com/GalaxyNinja66/e44a4a2b5a90968e2c47ee8fe899cf67 | 10:58 |
| MeowDudeM | sorry I took so long, tonights been wild | 10:59 |
| MeowDudeM | tonight's* | 10:59 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: you didn't give pulseaudio the usual parameters when calling it with strace | 11:01 |
| MeowDudeM | mal: you mean I need to do that -vvvv shit | 11:01 |
| MeowDudeM | err | 11:01 |
| MeowDudeM | shtuff' | 11:01 |
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| MeowDudeM | *cries* give me a second | 11:02 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: not -vvvv, you always have to give it --file=/etc/pulse/arm_droid_default.pa | 11:03 |
| mal | otherwise it doesn't know what configuration to use | 11:03 |
| Mister_Magister | Watch ur Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanguage | 11:04 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: just an idea, check what /usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service does :) (note, it load the CONFIG variable from the environment file /etc/sysconfig/pulseaudio) | 11:04 |
| Mister_Magister | mal: so how one debugs bt? | 11:06 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: usually if you plan to run something manually you should check the service file for the needed parameters | 11:06 |
| mal | Mister_Magister: enable some more logs from bluez? or use hcidump or something | 11:06 |
| MeowDudeM | mal: first off, it does nothing. I need root and when I run it as root it just does nothing, as if I hit CTRL+C | 11:06 |
| Mister_Magister | Hmm kk | 11:06 |
| MeowDudeM | second, https://gist.github.com/GalaxyNinja66/011a528d572813d65fb8f96a9de43a46 | 11:07 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: never run pulseaudio as root | 11:09 |
| MeowDudeM | I have to though | 11:09 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: why do you need root? | 11:09 |
| MeowDudeM | it says "requires elevated permissions" | 11:09 |
| MeowDudeM | er wait no | 11:09 |
| MeowDudeM | it says "permission denied" | 11:09 |
| mal | but you ran it before? | 11:10 |
| mal | so what changed? | 11:10 |
| MeowDudeM | no just systemctl --user start pulseaudio | 11:10 |
| MeowDudeM | I have never ran that | 11:10 |
| MeowDudeM | and afaik nothing | 11:10 |
| mal | there are two versions if that systemctl --user and systemctl-user, one works as root other doesn't | 11:11 |
| mal | *of | 11:11 |
| MeowDudeM | so explain to me how that applies to that /usr command | 11:12 |
| MeowDudeM | I am 99% the owner of /usr is root so how could I run anything in it as user? | 11:12 |
| r0kk3rz | lol | 11:12 |
| mal | what /usr command? | 11:12 |
| MeowDudeM | running this in terminal: "/usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service " gives me a permission denied error | 11:13 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah that wont work :P | 11:13 |
| mal | systemd doesn't work like that | 11:13 |
| mal | service file is not a program | 11:13 |
| MeowDudeM | so user and root just share everything | 11:13 |
| MeowDudeM | then why tell me to run it *twists* | 11:13 |
| r0kk3rz | read the exec line inside the service file, and run *that* as user | 11:13 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: you are now confusing things very badly | 11:13 |
| MeowDudeM | fug | 11:14 |
| MeowDudeM | I get it now | 11:14 |
| r0kk3rz | mal just assumed you knew what a service file was | 11:14 |
| MeowDudeM | EnvironmentFile=-/etc/sysconfig/pulseaudio ExecStart=/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start $CONFIG | 11:14 |
| MeowDudeM | that | 11:14 |
| r0kk3rz | which was apparently a poor assumption :) | 11:14 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: I told you to check what it does, i.e. the ExecStart line | 11:14 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: no | 11:14 |
| Mister_Magister | He did | 11:14 |
| Mister_Magister | Amd told you what config is | 11:15 |
| MeowDudeM | there is the Exec start line right there | 11:15 |
| Mister_Magister | So you can strace with proper parameters | 11:15 |
| MeowDudeM | so run "strace /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start $CONFIG" | 11:15 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: since this is going nowhere I should just give the result, you don't seem to have any logic in what you do | 11:15 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: no | 11:16 |
| Mister_Magister | mal: or just... Stop? | 11:16 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: I will explain, do not interrupt | 11:16 |
| Mister_Magister | r0kk3rz bet he will? XD | 11:17 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: ExecStart is the command used to run, any enviromental variables in the command will come from some environmenal file, so if you run the command manually you replace any variable with what you find in the enviromental file | 11:17 |
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| MeowDudeM | why aren't all NFC blocks in adaptations HAL/yellow? there is no mw for nfc | 11:18 |
| mal | it's not rocket science to understand that | 11:18 |
| Mister_Magister | Agr i lost my bet | 11:18 |
| mal | Mister_Magister: what bet? | 11:18 |
| r0kk3rz | MeowDudeM: to tilt your OCD obviously | 11:18 |
| MeowDudeM | so i need to find $CONFIG | 11:19 |
| Mister_Magister | Joke above that he will interrupt :p | 11:19 |
| Mister_Magister | MeowDude its in line above | 11:19 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: I told you many times where it is but seems to be too difficult to read | 11:19 |
| Mister_Magister | Prorip | 11:19 |
| MeowDudeM | r0kk3rz: it isn't nfc, it just doesn't make any sense, why even have it on the table right now? there is no mw and afaik zero native use of it (until sfos 3 at least). Also who makes it green? has any device even successfully ran "test_nfc" without an abort? | 11:19 |
| Mister_Magister | mal: i think you should really stop it goes nowhere | 11:20 |
| MeowDudeM | my service file does not show a value for $CONFIG but I will do what r0kk3rz said and read what you said again mal | 11:20 |
| mal | well I'm building new sdl so I had time while it builds | 11:20 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: read again what I wrote "any enviromental variables in the command will come from some environmenal file" | 11:21 |
| Mister_Magister | Its in line above | 11:21 |
| r0kk3rz | MeowDudeM: you will need to expand that $CONFIG variable like mal said | 11:21 |
| Mister_Magister | Omg | 11:21 |
| MeowDudeM | *face palm* | 11:21 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: unless you are blind you will see EnvironmentFile=-/etc/sysconfig/pulseaudio in the service file | 11:21 |
| Mister_Magister | Told line above 2 tjmes already | 11:22 |
| MeowDudeM | oh ha ha that is funny, when you said "environment file" I didn't even think to look at the literal value listed, I thought that was an actual file that I had to look for with some external command | 11:22 |
| mal | Mister_Magister: you really need to think a little yourself | 11:22 |
| MeowDudeM | sometimes I simply assume everything is more complicated then it really is, thus complicating it | 11:22 |
| Mister_Magister | r0kk3rz mal and me are like facepalm party | 11:22 |
| Mister_Magister | mal: i know that too | 11:22 |
| mal | Mister_Magister: https://imgur.com/gallery/agSyJ | 11:23 |
| Mister_Magister | Yep totally xD | 11:23 |
| MeowDudeM | I so badly want to edit the entire adaptations table and make every single NFC block HAL | 11:24 |
| MeowDudeM | but something tells me that is a bad move | 11:24 |
| r0kk3rz | MeowDudeM: what about devices with no nfc | 11:24 |
| Mister_Magister | mal: sometimes im like "lets ask mal about it" without thinking and sonetimes im too tired to think x | 11:24 |
| MeowDudeM | then NA | 11:24 |
| MeowDudeM | which a lot of them have already | 11:24 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: but there is no test for nfc so you cannot change it to HAL | 11:24 |
| r0kk3rz | MeowDudeM: also, you shouldnt edit other peoples hadk table lines | 11:24 |
| MeowDudeM | yes, test_nfc via terminal | 11:24 |
| MeowDudeM | I knopw | 11:24 |
| MeowDudeM | that is why I won't | 11:24 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: that doesn't work afaik | 11:24 |
| MeowDudeM | but damn does it bother me | 11:24 |
| r0kk3rz | good | 11:24 |
| MeowDudeM | mal: exactly, so since there is zero mw or way to interact with nfc, how could it ever be green? | 11:25 |
| MeowDudeM | how could anyone ever verify that NFC does indeed work | 11:25 |
| MeowDudeM | if anything they should all either be yellow for HAL or red for doesn't work | 11:25 |
| MeowDudeM | since NFC doesn't work at all I am starting to lean towards red | 11:25 |
| mal | probably mistakes in some lines | 11:25 |
| MeowDudeM | or just a blank NA | 11:25 |
| MeowDudeM | or heck, a question mark | 11:26 |
| MeowDudeM | that'd be perfect | 11:26 |
| r0kk3rz | ooooor get back in your box and mind your own business :P | 11:26 |
| mal | yep, who cares | 11:26 |
| Mister_Magister | mal: but ill try to add that 32bit support also i found that almost myself. When i was close krnlyng kicked in and pointed exact lin | 11:26 |
| Mister_Magister | Line | 11:26 |
| MeowDudeM | I do it drives me mad, how can they put green without knowing if it works | 11:27 |
| MeowDudeM | also: [nemo@Sailfish ~]$ /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start /etc/sysconfig/pulseaudio E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Too many arguments. | 11:27 |
| MeowDudeM | Wait | 11:27 |
| MeowDudeM | haru | 11:27 |
| Mister_Magister | Morsender sometimes adds funny chars at the end | 11:27 |
| Mister_Magister | Dunno why | 11:27 |
| MeowDudeM | nah usr/bin/pulseaudio --start /etc/sysconfig/pulseaudio should be right | 11:27 |
| Mister_Magister | Meowdude get parameters that are inside this file | 11:27 |
| MeowDudeM | I am just substituting $CONFIG for what it points at... | 11:27 |
| MeowDudeM | I am | 11:27 |
| Mister_Magister | Not file as a paremeter | 11:27 |
| MeowDudeM | I used environment file | 11:27 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: how dense are you? we said many times EXPAND THE VARIABLE, the variable definition is in the file, not the file | 11:28 |
| Mister_Magister | Parameters inside file | 11:28 |
| Mister_Magister | I N S I D E | 11:28 |
| MeowDudeM | dangit stop I can't stop picturing a box opening but there is nothing in the box just let me think you are filling my head with all these pictures of things opening but there is nothing in them and its all empty I need to think this | 11:28 |
| Mister_Magister | cat /etc/sysconfig/pulseaudio | 11:29 |
| Mister_Magister | Look whats inside | 11:30 |
| MeowDudeM | okay | 11:30 |
| MeowDudeM | -n --file=/etc/pulse/arm_droid_default.pa | 11:30 |
| MeowDudeM | so the file is correct | 11:30 |
| Mister_Magister | You finally looked inside file | 11:30 |
| Mister_Magister | Now you know how to open files? | 11:30 |
| MeowDudeM | god you guys were making my brain go into over drive | 11:31 |
| Mister_Magister | Now GET THAT PARAMETERS FROM INSIDE FILE | 11:31 |
| Mister_Magister | and place in command line | 11:31 |
| Mister_Magister | Instead of file path | 11:31 |
| MeowDudeM | E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed. | 11:31 |
| MeowDudeM | okay we are getting somewhere | 11:31 |
| mal | I basically gave you the answer half an hour ago but it took this long to understand it | 11:31 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: you do nto run it as daemon if you run it manually, you remove the --start | 11:32 |
| Mister_Magister | If this is too much for you how do you plan your existen | 11:32 |
| MeowDudeM | mal: you guys kept making me think of things opening, fruit, boxes,doors,wallets,casings,chests,computers,tiles,folders | 11:32 |
| Mister_Magister | Existence | 11:32 |
| mal | pulseaudio --help would tell what you each parameter means | 11:32 |
| MeowDudeM | I usually just block things out selectively so I don't think of things like that | 11:33 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: it's alwasy good to understand what the parameters mean, not just blindly use them | 11:33 |
| MeowDudeM | and I talk to my self in my head and delegate work to myself | 11:33 |
| MeowDudeM | okay mal I have straced it | 11:35 |
| MeowDudeM | now, what do I look for in an strace? I usually just do a global search for these keywords: "fail" "error" "warn" | 11:36 |
| MeowDudeM | https://gist.github.com/GalaxyNinja66/62dc35bac3f0bdaded223cd7d76d2ed5 | 11:36 |
| MeowDudeM | oh god it showed my entire terminal | 11:36 |
| MeowDudeM | how embarassing | 11:36 |
| r0kk3rz | like everything you're looking for clues, so it helps to read the whole output | 11:39 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: you still started it with --start | 11:41 |
| MeowDudeM | argj | 11:41 |
| MeowDudeM | mal: https://gist.github.com/GalaxyNinja66/85e54e7347f751cc3d26fedb1a09a1c0 | 11:42 |
| mal | MeowDudeM: also using gdb might give some hints, so gdb --args pulseaudio ... | 11:44 |
| mal | in which ... are the usual parameters for pulseaudio | 11:44 |
| MeowDude | mal: getting a no debug symbols error and no matter what parameters I try I can't seem to install debuginfo | 11:51 |
| mal | it gives the exact installation commands to use | 12:02 |
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| MeowDude | mal: yeah and I am saying it didn't work | 12:03 |
| MeowDude | mal: wait | 12:03 |
| MeowDude | fuck | 12:03 |
| MeowDude | fug* | 12:03 |
| MeowDude | the last quotation mark was missing at the end | 12:03 |
| mal | watch your language again | 12:04 |
| MeowDude | mal: it says reading symbold... done | 12:04 |
| MeowDude | then that is it | 12:04 |
| MeowDude | it stops with no real output | 12:05 |
| mal | you did type run after that, and once it crashes "threads apply all bt" | 12:06 |
| MeowDude | neh | 12:07 |
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| MeowDudeM | https://pastebin.com/gTgqdhEA | 12:07 |
| MeowDude | mal: do I need to install ALL of those? | 12:09 |
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| mal | MeowDude: the ones that seem relevant | 12:12 |
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| MeowDude | mal: I will do that tommorow, my girl calls and well I just have to respond | 12:18 |
| MeowDude | gn mi amigo | 12:18 |
| MeowDude | ?o amiga | 12:19 |
| MeowDude | whud dhe fug manta charged | 12:20 |
| MeowDude | it went from 21% to 25% | 12:20 |
| MeowDude | I am so confused | 12:20 |
| MeowDude | well I plugged it in to my wall, and it showed the charging icon for 1.5 seconds before just going default gray again | 12:21 |
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| linuxguy | Hi, are there any resources showing how to build a custom rootfs? | 15:12 |
| r0kk3rz | linuxguy: what do you want to do? | 15:14 |
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| linuxguy | r0kk3rz: I interested in seeing what it takes to build a minimal system with functinoal drivers | 15:16 |
| linuxguy | basically a minimal sailfish. at the same time learn how all the different parts work together | 15:17 |
| r0kk3rz | device porting gives you a fairly good tour around how everything works | 15:18 |
| r0kk3rz | 'minimal system' is quite minimal indeed, and the problem with drivers is the need for middleware | 15:19 |
| linuxguy | i see. Any pointers on how I can learn how the middleware works? | 15:21 |
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| r0kk3rz | what device were you thinking of building for? | 15:24 |
| linuxguy | xperia X | 15:25 |
| r0kk3rz | ok so getting set up with the build process for that is a good start | 15:26 |
| r0kk3rz | i think this is still it - https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Sailfish_X_Build_and_Flash | 15:28 |
| linuxguy | I've made a boot image and i'm interested in making my own userspace now. I wasn't sure if I should start with a full Sailfish build and remove things I didn't need or build the userspace from scratch | 15:28 |
| r0kk3rz | if you want to use the mer toolchain then starting with full sailfish is probably the best way | 15:30 |
| r0kk3rz | but there are other projects around, like plasma mobile or ubuntu touch that you could try | 15:31 |
| linuxguy | thanks. I'll take a look at them next. | 15:32 |
| r0kk3rz | for the most part, creating a rootfs is learning whatever toolchain a particular system uses | 15:32 |
| r0kk3rz | we use the mer one, other projects might use open embedded, or halium, or something else | 15:32 |
| linuxguy | are there folks working on getting libhybris working with new android versions? I'm not sure what the current supported verison is. | 15:33 |
| r0kk3rz | sure | 15:34 |
| r0kk3rz | i think 7 is the latest we support, but 8 is in the works | 15:34 |
| linuxguy | is this IRC the best place to learn and contribute with that effort? | 15:35 |
| r0kk3rz | theres also projects like postmarketos which dont use libhybris at all | 15:35 |
| linuxguy | ohh i didn't know that. very interesting | 15:35 |
| r0kk3rz | but sure if you want to build an android 8 adaptation for xperia x then you could try | 15:37 |
| linuxguy | that would be fun after i get up to speed on the hadk | 15:38 |
| _sven | mal: any news about kernel 4.x support? how far is libhybris support for it? | 15:39 |
| mal | _sven: why wouldn't it work? | 15:40 |
| r0kk3rz | _sven: you mean android 8 support? | 15:42 |
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| _sven | mal: i can't see any port using kernel 4.x on merproject.org. | 15:43 |
| _sven | mal: yes | 15:43 |
| mal | 4.x kernel has nothing to do with android 8, not directly at least | 15:43 |
| mal | ónly issue I know of with 4.4 kernel is usb handling | 15:44 |
| r0kk3rz | for starters you need a device that supports 4.x kernel | 15:44 |
| mal | android 8 is different issue | 15:44 |
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| _sven | mal: sony has discontinued support for AOSP 7.1/kernel 3.x for the Xperia XZ. | 15:53 |
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| _sven | mal: i thought the libhybris version for kernel 4.4 would be the problem when trying to port sfos for the XZ. | 15:54 |
| ghosalmartin | anyone tried to build the 4.4 kernel for X? | 15:56 |
| r0kk3rz | _sven: yeah see you're getting confused between kernel 4 and android 8 problems | 15:57 |
| r0kk3rz | _sven: for the most part, libhybris doesnt actually have anything to do with the kernel | 15:58 |
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| Nokius | r0kk3rz: :'( no sorry to busy | 17:23 |
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| carepack_ | mal: around? | 18:59 |
| mal | carepack_: ? | 19:00 |
| carepack_ | mal: should me a build of hybris-boot.img without set the required kernel options drop me to a shell where I can telnet tot the device? | 19:02 |
| carepack_ | fastboot boot hyris-boot.img | 19:02 |
| carepack_ | and then telnet in 192.168.2.15 2323 | 19:02 |
| carepack_ | may I can ask another way -> how can i test the hybris-boot | 19:03 |
| carepack_ | .img without creating always a new sfos image | 19:03 |
| carepack_ | I thought fastboot boot is the right way | 19:04 |
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| mal | carepack_: doesn't it do it already, in port 23? | 19:08 |
| carepack_ | hadk says 2323 | 19:08 |
| r0kk3rz | there is also -c bootmode=debug, which should put you into first telnet | 19:09 |
| mal | that is the second telnet, if there is something more wrong it stays in kernel init with telnet in port 23 | 19:09 |
| mal | carepack_: if you don't have sailfish rootfs in correct place you will have telnet in port 23 | 19:09 |
| mal | carepack_: just read the init-script :P | 19:10 |
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| carepack_ | ok. thx. I explain my situation. I have 2 sfos builds. the first one drops me to the telnet shell with 2323. the second build isn't able to setup a network and let me in. I got really weird dmesg messages. googling told me something with wrong power on usb. So I guess my kernel defconfig seems wrong. I have to go through option for option. So is there a way to test the the generated images | 19:13 |
| carepack_ | of make hybris-hal? | 19:13 |
| carepack_ | without building sfos images all the time? | 19:14 |
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| r0kk3rz | just flash the boot image after make hybris-hal | 19:14 |
| r0kk3rz | or as you said, fastboot boot boot.img | 19:14 |
| carepack_ | ah boot.img not hybris-boot.img | 19:15 |
| r0kk3rz | i meant hybris-boot.img | 19:15 |
| carepack_ | :-) ok. then I flashed right | 19:15 |
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| r0kk3rz | if you do 'fastboot boot hybris-boot.img -c bootmode=debug' it should halt at first telnet | 19:16 |
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| carepack_ | cool. thx for the hint! | 19:17 |
| r0kk3rz | other than that, you can hack on the init-script in hybris/hybris-boot/ to test things | 19:18 |
| carepack_ | ok. I'll have a look on that | 19:19 |
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| opendata | Is there any effort to support android apps in sailfish without official supp? | 20:17 |
| opendata | Support | 20:17 |
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| r0kk3rz | anbox.io | 20:19 |
| opendata | !cmd TOPIC | 20:19 |
| merbot | opendata: Error: "cmd" is not a valid command. | 20:19 |
| opendata | Yeah, I know about anbox | 20:20 |
| opendata | Does it work in sfos? | 20:20 |
| r0kk3rz | somewhat | 20:20 |
| r0kk3rz | but i think thats about as good as it works anywhere else i guess | 20:21 |
| opendata | Do you know if it needs any kernel patches | 20:21 |
| r0kk3rz | it does | 20:22 |
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| opendata | Can you link me? | 20:25 |
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| vknecht | opendata, https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/anbox-sailfishos | 20:34 |
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| mal | opendata: which device are using? | 20:44 |
| mal | opendata: which kernel? | 20:44 |
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| ghosalmartin | mal: anymore progress with configfs problems? | 21:07 |
| mal | ghosalmartin: nope | 21:08 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: okays ill get the chiron built and see why it manages to "work" | 21:08 |
| vknecht | mal, my anbox test : install https://pastebin.ca/4017809 | running (give unresponsive screen) https://pastebin.ca/4017808 | 3.10.49 at https://github.com/vknecht/android_kernel_alcatel_msm8916 | 21:17 |
| mal | vknecht: how did you start it? | 21:18 |
| vknecht | "clicking" the anbox icon (having rebooted after install) | 21:18 |
| mal | vknecht: the installation failed, I haven't pushed all needed patches yet | 21:18 |
| vknecht | ah ok, was not sure about install result | 21:19 |
| vknecht | np ; at least the kernel seems to have survived the patching, it's a good start :-) | 21:19 |
| mal | vknecht: the main issue is one missing installation dependency which break the script | 21:22 |
| vknecht | like installing "strings" ? | 21:26 |
| mal | vknecht: yes, I pushed some updates, still building | 21:27 |
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| mal | vknecht: try reinstalling the anbox-sailfishos package (no need to install the -image one) | 21:31 |
| mal | I mean no need to reinstall the -image package | 21:31 |
| vknecht | zypper ref / up ? | 21:31 |
| mal | maybe | 21:32 |
| mal | vknecht: also you need to run systemctl restart anbox-container-manager.service as root before trying to run the app | 21:35 |
| mal | ghosalmartin: I checked the chiron defconfig and it has the qcom configfs rndis disabled | 21:38 |
| vknecht | the repo tends to disappear, when using "zypper ref" ; could install it finally : https://pastebin.ca/4017812 | 21:38 |
| mal | vknecht: how did you add the repo? | 21:39 |
| mal | vknecht: always use ssu ar somename someurl | 21:39 |
| vknecht | zypper ar -f http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/mal:/anbox/sailfish_latest_armv7hl | 21:39 |
| vknecht | ok... | 21:39 |
| mal | vknecht: check what files you have in /var/lib/anbox/overlay/system/lib/ and /var/lib/anbox/overlay/system/lib64/ | 21:41 |
| vknecht | seems to "bootloop", many caualties by signal 6 & 9 : https://pastebin.ca/4017814 | 21:42 |
| mal | vknecht: anyway the overlay generating script I have adapted might not be perfect yet | 21:42 |
| mal | vknecht: which -image package did you install? | 21:43 |
| vknecht | the 32bits one | 21:43 |
| mal | vknecht: if the device fully 32-bit? | 21:43 |
| vknecht | no, but I didn't have the define | 21:44 |
| mal | check the folders I said | 21:44 |
| vknecht | https://pastebin.ca/4017815 | 21:44 |
| vknecht | but I guess I should try the mixed image | 21:45 |
| mal | remove the libGLESv* files in those folders | 21:45 |
| vknecht | ok | 21:45 |
| mal | only in those folders, not in any subfolders | 21:45 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: perhaps thats the key? | 21:45 |
| mal | ghosalmartin: probably, we also need to get the qcom version working | 21:46 |
| mal | vknecht: then run the systemctl restart anbox-container-manager.service again | 21:47 |
| mal | vknecht: also in addition to dmesg anbox can debugged using the tombstones somewhere in /var/lib/anbox/data/ | 21:48 |
| mal | *can be | 21:48 |
| vknecht | huhu... | 21:49 |
| vknecht | Apr 22 23:48:50 Sailfish init: critical process 'healthd' exited 4 times in 4 minutes; rebooting into recovery mode | 21:49 |
| vknecht | guess I should reboot phone :-) | 21:49 |
| mal | vknecht: usually tombstones tell more useful things | 21:49 |
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| mal | vknecht: is that from sailfish or anbox | 21:49 |
| mal | pretty sure from anbox | 21:50 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: how come? | 21:50 |
| vknecht | that's journalctl -alfb --no-pager from the console | 21:50 |
| mal | ghosalmartin: would make things easier if don't need to change kernel too much | 21:51 |
| mal | vknecht: anbox produces those init: messages, sailfish would print droid-hal-init: | 21:52 |
| * vknecht feels it's a bit late to go rummaging in tombstones... | 21:52 | |
| vknecht | ah... | 21:52 |
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| vknecht | since I have 64bits kernel, I probably should use the mixed image then ? | 21:53 |
| mal | probably | 21:53 |
| mal | not 100% sure | 21:54 |
| * vknecht works around the tombstones, for now... | 21:54 | |
| mal | vknecht: there should be a clear message somewhere in case of mismatching binder version | 21:54 |
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| ghosalmartin | mal, what flag was the qualcomm version? | 22:24 |
| vknecht | doesn't look much betterwith mixed image : https://pastebin.ca/4017818 | 22:28 |
| vknecht | it's late, thanks and have a good night :-) | 22:28 |
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