Sunday, 2018-04-22

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MeowDude!seen lojimo1202:00
merbotMeowDude: I have not seen lojimo12.02:00
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MeowDudeoy vey mozilla location services here are garbage03:07
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rinigusr0kk3rz: do you know if tablet uses different keyboard qml? screenshot, please :)03:51
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MeowDudehow are there no sfos ports to LG devices... do devs just hate LG?04:58
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MeowDudedoes Sailfish OS support dual camera?05:26
MeowDudeif not I am sure you can just configure it to use one or the other05:26
NerdyPepperlg nexus?05:37
NerdyPeppernexus 5 i mean.05:38
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sharkr0kk3rz : You remembered me for something?05:53
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shark1I will always read logs even If I havent logged in. And that nick has been registered by someone else05:55
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riniguskimmoli: image is available at https://kuqrhldx.e24files.com/sfos-beta-7.tar . I'll remove it later when you are done with it06:28
kimmoliok06:28
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riniguskimmoli: as for testing it - flashed and seemed to be fine. but it's not a test like using it for weeks :)06:29
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kimmolirinigus: done. .ks missing ?06:50
riniguskimmoli: a sec, let me upload it06:50
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riniguskimmoli: https://kuqrhldx.e24files.com/Jolla-2.1.4.14-onyx-armv7hl.ks [ for some reason its not generated anymore as a part of release folder ]06:56
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kimmolirinigus: ok. that looks like a template?06:58
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riniguskimmoli: that's template indeed, which I used to generate image. I guess we have to skip .ks then07:00
kimmolii pushed it in images, so if this is what it nowadays needs, then let it be like that.07:01
riniguskimmoli: wait a bit, I think I know what happened. I'll try to generate ks again, I might have deleted it by accident last night. give me 15-45 mins07:04
kimmoliok07:06
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MeowDudeI i had 5 cents for every time I saw "(Not Responding)" in windows 10 I would have as much money as Bill Gates himself07:28
MeowDudewhich I am conscious doesn't actually own microsoft anymore, but still.07:28
MeowDudehow can such a mainstream PC operating system be so horribly un-optimized and full of issues?07:28
kimmolithats just lazy programmers blocking ui thread with stuff they should be doing somewhere else07:33
riniguskimmoli: ks updated07:34
MeowDudeI wish I could use linux07:34
MeowDudeUbuntu was faster, more stable, and had support for all the stuff I wanted07:35
kimmolirinigus: curled in place07:36
riniguskimmoli: ? i pushed it into the same url. if that's what you mean...07:38
kimmolijep07:38
kimmoliPSA: Onyx 2.1.4.14 released, see http://images.devaamo.fi/sfe/onyx/beta-7/07:39
rinigus:)07:41
riniguskimmoli: xda?07:41
kimmolitaaem: ^07:41
Mister_MagisterHi kimmoli rinigus07:42
rinigusmorning07:42
MeowDudeI was just looking at buying an reselling an onyx with sailfish os07:43
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riniguskimmoli: should we start dropping this "beta" tag and just make releases in accordance with the versions in future? aka 2.1.4.14-108:08
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r0kk3rzshark: did you ever release an image for your port? it was lemax 2 right?08:24
kimmolirinigus: i tried to figure that out earlier, but did not get any final decision to it.08:26
kimmolimaybe when the compass is working (waiting mal to push fixies out there)08:26
MeowDudejusa: so have you any idea what my audio issues are caused by? Is it a kernel issue? mw issue?08:27
r0kk3rzrinigus: https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmfBvQ6mVRtAZyXk4N5pKYFb7Df54RdfQwe2p1FHHsHJaW08:34
riniguskimmoli: that's a good target (compass). I remember that discussion and as far as I understand it's up to porters08:35
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rinigusr0kk3rz: we limited number of predictions, there is an issue filed on allowing users to specify it via configuration dialogue. however, I am not aware of anyone working on it now08:39
Nokiusr0kk3rz: nice :)08:46
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r0kk3rzrinigus: the number is fine, its just all bunched up to the left is all08:51
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malkimmoli: rinigus the compass change is quite dramatic so we need to plan together with jolla how to proceed with that08:54
rinigusr0kk3rz: on phone its usually doesn't fit, hence the left adjustment. but I can see it could be a problem. you could always suggest a patch, though :)08:56
rinigusmal: we are not in a rush. would be good to do something besides porting...08:57
r0kk3rzrinigus: ill have to compare to xt908:57
malrinigus: also based on my testing the new sensor system produces more events than the old so there is some issue with setting event delay or something08:58
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shark1r0kk3rz : no, I havent released.(Just gave it to few people to test)09:05
shark1Yes it is Le Max209:06
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shark1I have issues with camera, the flash is badly out of sync so I didnt release everything else is fine. 3 main bugs only currently.09:07
Mister_Magistershark1: release it09:08
Mister_MagisterIt doesnt have to be perfect09:09
MeowDudeI shouldn't have released09:09
MeowDudeyou are a good example shark09:09
Mister_MagisterAnd its hard to make it oerfect09:09
MeowDudealso jusa: please bueti09:09
Mister_MagisterSometimes impossible09:09
shark1Mister_Magister : no it could be perfect with hybris-14.109:09
Mister_MagisterAmd flash is shit dont use it xD09:09
MeowDudeMister_Magister: its hard to get it to beta quality, and nothing is impossible09:09
Mister_MagisterI think ill port leeco lepro3elite09:10
shark1coz I have OSS hals for camera in los 15.109:10
MeowDudethats what my mom told me when I said i wanted to become an astronut09:10
MeowDudewait09:10
MeowDudelos 15.1?09:10
MeowDudeis hybris 15.1 out?09:10
Mister_Magistershark1: so youbare waiting for hybris15?09:10
MeowDudeoh09:10
shark1Mister_Magister : yes09:10
Mister_MagisterSame  as me lol09:10
shark1lol09:11
Mister_MagisterFor me on 15 mainline kernel is waiting09:11
shark1wait 15 or 15.1?09:11
Mister_MagisterDoesnt matter09:11
MeowDudelol I would love to port to Droid 2 Global just to see if it can be done09:12
shark1Mister_Magister : btw my phone has good camera, Iam no way going further without perfecting it :p09:12
MeowDudeit has an OMAP364009:12
MeowDudeor 3460...09:12
MeowDudeI need to build CyanogenMod 10.1 for it09:12
Mister_Magistershark1: if it has good camera dont use flash09:12
shark1Mister_Magister : well 15 is depreciated and los also released only 15.109:12
Mister_MagisterIts onkt breaking photos09:12
Mister_MagisterAnd how was porting?09:12
Mister_MagisterI never played with leeco09:12
shark1.Mister_Magister : well low light conditions09:13
MeowDudeshark1 I second that, in most cases just dropping it to low light mode works, even at night, and this is on Photon Q09:13
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MeowDudethe stock camera app is really good09:13
Mister_MagisterEven in lowlight09:13
Mister_MagisterFlash is only for documents09:13
Mister_MagisterAnd flashlight09:13
shark1Mister_Magister : leeco porting fairly easy. Look at le eco, good hardware at very cheap prices09:14
jusaMeowDude: did you take strace from pulseaudio?09:14
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Mister_Magisterlbt-: could you patternise both devel and testing of motorola:ghost?X09:16
shark1Mister_Magister : Le max2 is a carbon copy of one plus 3 at a cheaper price :p09:16
Mister_MagisterNah lepro3elite09:16
Mister_MagisterIts cheap and my friend will get one tok09:16
Mister_MagisterToo09:16
Mister_MagisterI wanna christianise him09:16
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shark1Mister_Magister : well yes z|1 (Le Pro3 lite) has better battery.09:18
shark1But inferior camera, display09:18
shark1and costs more than max209:18
rinigusmal: are those extra events missed using the current system or just reported sometimes twice? easy to ask, pain to find out...09:18
T4<abhishek_0> Hey shark1 .. how's your port going?09:18
shark1abishek_0: Its done. Its fairly stable09:19
T4<abhishek_0> Cool .. you got rid of all the bugs?09:19
malrinigus: I think there are no missing events, my system is just setting the delay incorrectly and the android side sends more events09:19
shark1abhishek_0 : yes, almost.09:20
MeowDudejusa: you never told me what exactly to strace09:20
Mister_MagisterElite not lite09:20
T4<abhishek_0> Hehe almost?09:20
malMeowDude: pulseaudio09:20
MeowDudewhat do I put after strace in "strace _____"09:20
MeowDudeIll do that after my jog09:20
malMeowDude: you put the same command you used when running pulseaudio manually09:21
shark1abhishek_0: yes, camera works but flash sync is very bad. It has dual flash so one flash goes off before pic is captured and one flaash goes off when pic is taken and pic will be all white :p09:21
Mister_Magistershark1: not lite but elite09:21
shark1Mister_Magister : Yup,  Z|1 is elite only.. I knew you made a typo :p09:22
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Mister_MagisterYou made typo09:23
Mister_MagisterNot me09:23
shark1It got nothing better except battery :p09:23
shark1lol I made a typo :p didnt notice xD09:23
Mister_MagisterLepro3 vs lepro3elite us that elite have 820 instead of 82109:23
shark1oh wait its lepro3elite :p there is no lineage os for that09:25
Mister_MagisterThere is09:25
shark1its code name is z|1?09:26
Mister_MagisterI dont know09:26
shark1Well there isnt lineage for that. Dont know if lineage of le pro3 works on it. Just like One plus 3 and 3t09:27
r0kk3rzNokius: built image yet?09:30
Mister_MagisterIt sure does09:30
Mister_MagisterIts same phone09:30
Mister_MagisterSame hw09:30
shark1yes but sd821 is a little overclocked version of sd82009:30
Mister_MagisterDoubt? Both are 899609:30
shark1so performance might be little down09:31
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shark1oh wait. There will not be issues now I see..09:31
Mister_MagisterYep09:32
Mister_MagisterSame kernel same everything09:32
shark1r0kk3rz : any specific reason for asking about the release?09:32
Mister_MagisterOnly difderence is 820 and 82109:32
Mister_MagisterBut they are both 899609:32
Mister_MagisterSame as 400 and 41009:32
shark1you know there are unnofficial phones also by le eco :p09:32
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Mister_MagisterWhat?09:32
shark1and unofficial eui(like miui) release09:33
Mister_MagisterWhen i fet it ill unlock it and flash sfos09:33
shark1Mister_Magister : Phones sold without official release :p09:33
Mister_MagisterDont care bout eui09:33
Mister_MagisterLol09:33
shark1Mister_Magister : yes, but I pity those who bought unofficial phone :P09:34
Mister_MagisterWhy09:34
shark1well there will be no wide userbase and hence no development09:34
Mister_MagisterDID I EVER TOLD YOU HOW AWESOME AMOLED IS? ;(09:34
Mister_MagisterAhhh09:35
shark1Mister_Magister : yup amoled is really awesome.. feels like butter09:35
shark1Mister_Magister : And there was one more unreleased phone, Le Max Pro, which was the first sd820 phone with some stellar wifi capability.09:36
Mister_MagisterThis black...09:36
Mister_MagisterStellar wifi?09:36
shark1someone even leaked qualcom sd 820 source code to build lineage for that09:36
Mister_Magistershark1: https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/8dzf1h/can_sailfishos_into_unix_porn/09:37
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shark1Mister_Magister : I mean it supported wifi ad, it was the first sd 820 device09:40
Mister_MagisterWifi ad?09:40
shark1https://www.qualcomm.com/solutions/networking/features/80211ad09:42
r0kk3rzshark1: nothing specific, it just came up the other day09:42
Mister_MagisterYou could just told09:42
Mister_Magister802.11ad09:42
r0kk3rzshark1: it'd be nice if you released a build and put some information on the wiki if most things work09:43
Mister_MagisterYeo09:44
Mister_MagisterAnd make xda rhread09:44
Mister_MagisterThread*09:44
r0kk3rzi should probably make an xda thread for scorpion, its fairly ready to be widely distributed i think09:47
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r0kk3rzmaybe once we get the modem working09:49
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vknechthello09:53
vknechtwhy not a grouped release and announce, say next week-end ? :-) didn't really advertise my port neither...09:54
Mister_MagisterWell i can release random g3 too xD09:54
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shark1r0kk3rz: Ok, I will make soon. Most of the things work.10:01
Mister_MagisterG3 is ridiculously random10:02
Mister_MagisterImagine having 4 exact same devices10:02
Mister_Magister1 everything works, 2 wifi wont modprobe, 3 random reboots and slow animations 4 doesnt instp10:03
Mister_MagisterInstall*10:03
shark1Mister_Magister : well its name was wifi ad so mentioned that :p10:05
Mister_MagisterHeh10:05
Mister_MagisterYou have pretty long response times xD10:05
shark1Mister_Magister : sorry, was having lunch10:06
Mister_MagisterNo prob10:06
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MeowDudeMjusa: this is the first one, I will grab another strace just to be safe, I need to reapply that module-load load-module-protocol-native-unix10:49
MeowDudeMwow gps works neat10:50
MeowDudeMthat actually fixed itself10:51
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MeowDudeMjusa: another f***ing strace (these take a while to highlight and copy in terminal :P) https://gist.github.com/GalaxyNinja66/e44a4a2b5a90968e2c47ee8fe899cf6710:58
MeowDudeMsorry I took so long, tonights been wild10:59
MeowDudeMtonight's*10:59
malMeowDudeM: you didn't give pulseaudio the usual parameters when calling it with strace11:01
MeowDudeMmal: you mean I need to do that -vvvv shit11:01
MeowDudeMerr11:01
MeowDudeMshtuff'11:01
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MeowDudeM*cries* give me a second11:02
malMeowDudeM: not -vvvv, you always have to give it --file=/etc/pulse/arm_droid_default.pa11:03
malotherwise it doesn't know what configuration to use11:03
Mister_MagisterWatch ur Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanguage11:04
malMeowDudeM: just an idea, check what /usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service does :) (note, it load the CONFIG variable from the environment file /etc/sysconfig/pulseaudio)11:04
Mister_Magistermal: so how one debugs bt?11:06
malMeowDudeM: usually if you plan to run something manually you should check the service file for the needed parameters11:06
malMister_Magister: enable some more logs from bluez? or use hcidump or something11:06
MeowDudeMmal: first off, it does nothing. I need root and when I run it as root it just does nothing, as if I hit CTRL+C11:06
Mister_MagisterHmm kk11:06
MeowDudeMsecond, https://gist.github.com/GalaxyNinja66/011a528d572813d65fb8f96a9de43a4611:07
malMeowDudeM: never run pulseaudio as root11:09
MeowDudeMI have to though11:09
malMeowDudeM: why do you need root?11:09
MeowDudeMit says "requires elevated permissions"11:09
MeowDudeMer wait no11:09
MeowDudeMit says "permission denied"11:09
malbut you ran it before?11:10
malso what changed?11:10
MeowDudeMno just systemctl --user start pulseaudio11:10
MeowDudeMI have never ran that11:10
MeowDudeMand afaik nothing11:10
malthere are two versions if that systemctl --user and systemctl-user, one works as root other doesn't11:11
mal*of11:11
MeowDudeMso explain to me how that applies to that /usr command11:12
MeowDudeMI am 99% the owner of /usr is root so how could I run anything in it as user?11:12
r0kk3rzlol11:12
malwhat /usr command?11:12
MeowDudeMrunning this in terminal: "/usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service " gives me a permission denied error11:13
r0kk3rzyeah that wont work :P11:13
malsystemd doesn't work like that11:13
malservice file is not a program11:13
MeowDudeMso user and root just share everything11:13
MeowDudeMthen why tell me to run it *twists*11:13
r0kk3rzread the exec line inside the service file, and run *that* as user11:13
malMeowDudeM: you are now confusing things very badly11:13
MeowDudeMfug11:14
MeowDudeMI get it now11:14
r0kk3rzmal just assumed you knew what a service file was11:14
MeowDudeMEnvironmentFile=-/etc/sysconfig/pulseaudio ExecStart=/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start $CONFIG11:14
MeowDudeMthat11:14
r0kk3rzwhich was apparently a poor assumption :)11:14
malMeowDudeM: I told you to check what it does, i.e. the ExecStart line11:14
malMeowDudeM: no11:14
Mister_MagisterHe did11:14
Mister_MagisterAmd told you what config is11:15
MeowDudeMthere is the Exec start line right there11:15
Mister_MagisterSo you can strace with proper parameters11:15
MeowDudeMso run "strace /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start $CONFIG"11:15
malMeowDudeM: since this is going nowhere I should just give the result, you don't seem to have any logic in what you do11:15
malMeowDudeM: no11:16
Mister_Magistermal: or just... Stop?11:16
malMeowDudeM: I will explain, do not interrupt11:16
Mister_Magisterr0kk3rz bet he will? XD11:17
malMeowDudeM: ExecStart is the command used to run, any enviromental variables in the command will come from some environmenal file, so if you run the command manually you replace any variable with what you find in the enviromental file11:17
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MeowDudeMwhy aren't all NFC blocks in adaptations HAL/yellow? there is no mw for nfc11:18
malit's not rocket science to understand that11:18
Mister_MagisterAgr i lost my bet11:18
malMister_Magister: what bet?11:18
r0kk3rzMeowDudeM: to tilt your OCD obviously11:18
MeowDudeMso i need to find $CONFIG11:19
Mister_MagisterJoke above that he will interrupt :p11:19
Mister_MagisterMeowDude its in line above11:19
malMeowDudeM: I told you many times where it is but seems to be too difficult to read11:19
Mister_MagisterProrip11:19
MeowDudeMr0kk3rz: it isn't nfc, it just doesn't make any sense, why even have it on the table right now? there is no mw and afaik zero native use of it (until sfos 3 at least). Also who makes it green? has any device even successfully ran "test_nfc" without an abort?11:19
Mister_Magistermal: i think you should really stop it goes nowhere11:20
MeowDudeMmy service file does not show a value for $CONFIG but I will do what r0kk3rz said and read what you said again mal11:20
malwell I'm building new sdl so I had time while it builds11:20
malMeowDudeM: read again what I wrote "any enviromental variables in the command will come from some environmenal file"11:21
Mister_MagisterIts in line above11:21
r0kk3rzMeowDudeM: you will need to expand that $CONFIG variable like mal said11:21
Mister_MagisterOmg11:21
MeowDudeM*face palm*11:21
malMeowDudeM: unless you are blind you will see EnvironmentFile=-/etc/sysconfig/pulseaudio in the service file11:21
Mister_MagisterTold line above 2 tjmes already11:22
MeowDudeMoh ha ha that is funny, when you said "environment file" I didn't even think to look at the literal value listed, I thought that was an actual file that I had to look for with some external command11:22
malMister_Magister: you really need to think a little yourself11:22
MeowDudeMsometimes I simply assume everything is more complicated then it really is, thus complicating it11:22
Mister_Magisterr0kk3rz mal and me are like facepalm party11:22
Mister_Magistermal: i know that too11:22
malMister_Magister: https://imgur.com/gallery/agSyJ11:23
Mister_MagisterYep totally xD11:23
MeowDudeMI so badly want to edit the entire adaptations table and make every single NFC block HAL11:24
MeowDudeMbut something tells me that is a bad move11:24
r0kk3rzMeowDudeM: what about devices with no nfc11:24
Mister_Magistermal: sometimes im like "lets ask mal about it" without thinking and sonetimes im too tired to think x11:24
MeowDudeMthen NA11:24
MeowDudeMwhich a lot of them have already11:24
malMeowDudeM: but there is no test for nfc so you cannot change it to HAL11:24
r0kk3rzMeowDudeM: also, you shouldnt edit other peoples hadk table lines11:24
MeowDudeMyes, test_nfc via terminal11:24
MeowDudeMI knopw11:24
MeowDudeMthat is why I won't11:24
malMeowDudeM: that doesn't work afaik11:24
MeowDudeMbut damn does it bother me11:24
r0kk3rzgood11:24
MeowDudeMmal: exactly, so since there is zero mw or way to interact with nfc, how could it ever be green?11:25
MeowDudeMhow could anyone ever verify that NFC does indeed work11:25
MeowDudeMif anything they should all either be yellow for HAL or red for doesn't work11:25
MeowDudeMsince NFC doesn't work at all I am starting to lean towards red11:25
malprobably mistakes in some lines11:25
MeowDudeMor just a blank NA11:25
MeowDudeMor heck, a question mark11:26
MeowDudeMthat'd be perfect11:26
r0kk3rzooooor get back in your box and mind your own business :P11:26
malyep, who cares11:26
Mister_Magistermal: but ill try to add that 32bit support also i found that almost myself. When i was close krnlyng kicked in and pointed exact lin11:26
Mister_MagisterLine11:26
MeowDudeMI do it drives me mad, how can they put green without knowing if it works11:27
MeowDudeMalso: [nemo@Sailfish ~]$ /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start /etc/sysconfig/pulseaudio E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Too many arguments.11:27
MeowDudeMWait11:27
MeowDudeMharu11:27
Mister_MagisterMorsender sometimes adds funny chars at the end11:27
Mister_MagisterDunno why11:27
MeowDudeMnah usr/bin/pulseaudio --start /etc/sysconfig/pulseaudio should be right11:27
Mister_MagisterMeowdude get parameters that are inside this file11:27
MeowDudeMI am just substituting $CONFIG for what it points at...11:27
MeowDudeMI am11:27
Mister_MagisterNot file as a paremeter11:27
MeowDudeMI used environment file11:27
malMeowDudeM: how dense are you? we said many times EXPAND THE VARIABLE, the variable definition is in the file, not the file11:28
Mister_MagisterParameters inside file11:28
Mister_MagisterI N S I D E11:28
MeowDudeMdangit stop I can't stop picturing a box opening but there is nothing in the box just let me think you are filling my head with all these pictures of things opening but there is nothing in them and its all empty I need to think this11:28
Mister_Magistercat /etc/sysconfig/pulseaudio11:29
Mister_MagisterLook whats inside11:30
MeowDudeMokay11:30
MeowDudeM-n --file=/etc/pulse/arm_droid_default.pa11:30
MeowDudeMso the file is correct11:30
Mister_MagisterYou finally looked inside file11:30
Mister_MagisterNow you know how to open files?11:30
MeowDudeMgod you guys were making my brain go into over drive11:31
Mister_MagisterNow GET THAT PARAMETERS FROM INSIDE FILE11:31
Mister_Magisterand place in command line11:31
Mister_MagisterInstead of file path11:31
MeowDudeME: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed.11:31
MeowDudeMokay we are getting somewhere11:31
malI basically gave you the answer half an hour ago but it took this long to understand it11:31
malMeowDudeM: you do nto run it as daemon if you run it manually, you remove the --start11:32
Mister_MagisterIf this is too much for you how do you plan your existen11:32
MeowDudeMmal: you guys kept making me think of things opening, fruit, boxes,doors,wallets,casings,chests,computers,tiles,folders11:32
Mister_MagisterExistence11:32
malpulseaudio --help would tell what you each parameter means11:32
MeowDudeMI usually just block things out selectively so I don't think of things like that11:33
malMeowDudeM: it's alwasy good to understand what the parameters mean, not just blindly use them11:33
MeowDudeMand I talk to my self in my head and delegate work to myself11:33
MeowDudeMokay mal I have straced it11:35
MeowDudeMnow, what do I look for in an strace? I usually just do a global search for these keywords: "fail" "error" "warn"11:36
MeowDudeMhttps://gist.github.com/GalaxyNinja66/62dc35bac3f0bdaded223cd7d76d2ed511:36
MeowDudeMoh god it showed my entire terminal11:36
MeowDudeMhow embarassing11:36
r0kk3rzlike everything you're looking for clues, so it helps to read the whole output11:39
malMeowDudeM: you still started it with --start11:41
MeowDudeMargj11:41
MeowDudeMmal: https://gist.github.com/GalaxyNinja66/85e54e7347f751cc3d26fedb1a09a1c011:42
malMeowDudeM: also using gdb might give some hints, so gdb --args pulseaudio ...11:44
malin which ... are the usual parameters for pulseaudio11:44
MeowDudemal: getting a no debug symbols error and no matter what parameters I try I can't seem to install debuginfo11:51
malit gives the exact installation commands to use12:02
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MeowDudemal: yeah and I am saying it didn't work12:03
MeowDudemal: wait12:03
MeowDudefuck12:03
MeowDudefug*12:03
MeowDudethe last quotation mark was missing at the end12:03
malwatch your language again12:04
MeowDudemal: it says reading symbold... done12:04
MeowDudethen that is it12:04
MeowDudeit stops with no real output12:05
malyou did type run after that, and once it crashes "threads apply all bt"12:06
MeowDudeneh12:07
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MeowDudeMhttps://pastebin.com/gTgqdhEA12:07
MeowDudemal: do I need to install ALL of those?12:09
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malMeowDude: the ones that seem relevant12:12
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MeowDudemal: I will do that tommorow, my girl calls and well I just have to respond12:18
MeowDudegn mi amigo12:18
MeowDude?o amiga12:19
MeowDudewhud dhe fug manta charged12:20
MeowDudeit went from 21% to 25%12:20
MeowDudeI am so confused12:20
MeowDudewell I plugged it in to my wall, and it showed the charging icon for 1.5 seconds before just going default gray again12:21
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linuxguyHi, are there any resources showing how to build a custom rootfs?15:12
r0kk3rzlinuxguy: what do you want to do?15:14
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linuxguyr0kk3rz: I interested in seeing what it takes to build a minimal system with functinoal drivers15:16
linuxguybasically a minimal sailfish. at the same time learn how all the different parts work together15:17
r0kk3rzdevice porting gives you a fairly good tour around how everything works15:18
r0kk3rz'minimal system' is quite minimal indeed, and the problem with drivers is the need for middleware15:19
linuxguyi see. Any pointers on how I can learn how the middleware works?15:21
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r0kk3rzwhat device were you thinking of building for?15:24
linuxguyxperia X15:25
r0kk3rzok so getting set up with the build process for that is a good start15:26
r0kk3rzi think this is still it - https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Sailfish_X_Build_and_Flash15:28
linuxguyI've made a boot image and i'm interested in making my own userspace now. I wasn't sure if I should start with a full Sailfish build and remove things I didn't need or build the userspace from scratch15:28
r0kk3rzif you want to use the mer toolchain then starting with full sailfish is probably the best way15:30
r0kk3rzbut there are other projects around, like plasma mobile or ubuntu touch that you could try15:31
linuxguythanks. I'll take a look at them next.15:32
r0kk3rzfor the most part, creating a rootfs is learning whatever toolchain a particular system uses15:32
r0kk3rzwe use the mer one, other projects might use open embedded, or halium, or something else15:32
linuxguyare there folks working on getting libhybris working with new android versions? I'm not sure what the current supported verison is.15:33
r0kk3rzsure15:34
r0kk3rzi think 7 is the latest we support, but 8 is in the works15:34
linuxguyis this IRC the best place to learn and contribute with that effort?15:35
r0kk3rztheres also projects like postmarketos which dont use libhybris at all15:35
linuxguyohh i didn't know that. very interesting15:35
r0kk3rzbut sure if you want to build an android 8 adaptation for xperia x then you could try15:37
linuxguythat would be fun after i get up to speed on the hadk15:38
_svenmal: any news about kernel 4.x support? how far is libhybris support for it?15:39
mal_sven: why wouldn't it work?15:40
r0kk3rz_sven: you mean android 8 support?15:42
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_svenmal: i can't see any port using kernel 4.x on merproject.org.15:43
_svenmal: yes15:43
mal4.x kernel has nothing to do with android 8, not directly at least15:43
malónly issue I know of with 4.4 kernel is usb handling15:44
r0kk3rzfor starters you need a device that supports 4.x kernel15:44
malandroid 8 is different issue15:44
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_svenmal: sony has discontinued support for AOSP 7.1/kernel 3.x for the Xperia XZ.15:53
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_svenmal: i thought the libhybris version for kernel 4.4 would be the problem when trying to port sfos for the XZ.15:54
ghosalmartinanyone tried to build the 4.4 kernel for X?15:56
r0kk3rz_sven: yeah see you're getting confused between kernel 4 and android 8 problems15:57
r0kk3rz_sven: for the most part, libhybris doesnt actually have anything to do with the kernel15:58
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Nokiusr0kk3rz: :'( no sorry to busy17:23
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carepack_mal: around?18:59
malcarepack_: ?19:00
carepack_mal: should me a build of hybris-boot.img without set the required kernel options drop me to a shell where I can telnet tot the device?19:02
carepack_fastboot boot hyris-boot.img19:02
carepack_and then telnet in 192.168.2.15 232319:02
carepack_may I can ask another way -> how can i test the hybris-boot19:03
carepack_.img without creating always a new sfos image19:03
carepack_I thought fastboot boot is the right way19:04
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malcarepack_: doesn't it do it already, in port 23?19:08
carepack_hadk says 232319:08
r0kk3rzthere is also -c bootmode=debug, which should put you into first telnet19:09
malthat is the second telnet, if there is something more wrong it stays in kernel init with telnet in port 2319:09
malcarepack_: if you don't have sailfish rootfs in correct place you will have telnet in port 2319:09
malcarepack_: just read the init-script :P19:10
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carepack_ok. thx. I explain my situation. I have 2 sfos builds. the first one drops me to the telnet shell with 2323. the second build isn't able to setup a network and let me in. I got really weird dmesg messages. googling told me something with wrong power on usb. So I guess my kernel defconfig seems wrong. I have to go through option for option.  So is there a way to test the the generated images19:13
carepack_of make hybris-hal?19:13
carepack_without building sfos images all the time?19:14
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r0kk3rzjust flash the boot image after make hybris-hal19:14
r0kk3rzor as you said, fastboot boot boot.img19:14
carepack_ah boot.img not hybris-boot.img19:15
r0kk3rzi meant hybris-boot.img19:15
carepack_:-) ok. then I flashed right19:15
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r0kk3rzif you do 'fastboot boot hybris-boot.img -c bootmode=debug' it should halt at first telnet19:16
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carepack_cool. thx for the hint!19:17
r0kk3rzother than that, you can hack on the init-script in hybris/hybris-boot/ to test things19:18
carepack_ok. I'll have a look on that19:19
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opendataIs there any effort to support android apps in sailfish without official supp?20:17
opendataSupport20:17
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r0kk3rzanbox.io20:19
opendata!cmd TOPIC20:19
merbotopendata: Error: "cmd" is not a valid command.20:19
opendataYeah, I know about anbox20:20
opendataDoes it work in sfos?20:20
r0kk3rzsomewhat20:20
r0kk3rzbut i think thats about as good as it works anywhere else i guess20:21
opendataDo you know if it needs any kernel patches20:21
r0kk3rzit does20:22
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opendataCan you link me?20:25
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vknechtopendata, https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/anbox-sailfishos20:34
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malopendata: which device are using?20:44
malopendata: which kernel?20:44
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ghosalmartinmal: anymore progress with configfs problems?21:07
malghosalmartin: nope21:08
ghosalmartinmal: okays ill get the chiron built and see why it manages to "work"21:08
vknechtmal, my anbox test : install https://pastebin.ca/4017809 | running (give unresponsive screen) https://pastebin.ca/4017808 | 3.10.49 at https://github.com/vknecht/android_kernel_alcatel_msm891621:17
malvknecht: how did you start it?21:18
vknecht"clicking" the anbox icon (having rebooted after install)21:18
malvknecht: the installation failed, I haven't pushed all needed patches yet21:18
vknechtah ok, was not sure about install result21:19
vknechtnp ; at least the kernel seems to have survived the patching, it's a good start :-)21:19
malvknecht: the main issue is one missing installation dependency which break the script21:22
vknechtlike installing "strings" ?21:26
malvknecht: yes, I pushed some updates, still building21:27
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malvknecht: try reinstalling the anbox-sailfishos package (no need to install the -image one)21:31
malI mean no need to reinstall the -image package21:31
vknechtzypper ref / up ?21:31
malmaybe21:32
malvknecht: also you need to run systemctl restart anbox-container-manager.service as root before trying to run the app21:35
malghosalmartin: I checked the chiron defconfig and it has the qcom configfs rndis disabled21:38
vknechtthe repo tends to disappear, when using "zypper ref" ; could install it finally : https://pastebin.ca/401781221:38
malvknecht: how did you add the repo?21:39
malvknecht: always use ssu ar somename someurl21:39
vknechtzypper ar -f http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/mal:/anbox/sailfish_latest_armv7hl21:39
vknechtok...21:39
malvknecht: check what files you have in /var/lib/anbox/overlay/system/lib/ and /var/lib/anbox/overlay/system/lib64/21:41
vknechtseems to "bootloop", many caualties by signal 6 & 9 : https://pastebin.ca/401781421:42
malvknecht: anyway the overlay generating script I have adapted might not be perfect yet21:42
malvknecht: which -image package did you install?21:43
vknechtthe 32bits one21:43
malvknecht: if the device fully 32-bit?21:43
vknechtno, but I didn't have the define21:44
malcheck the folders I said21:44
vknechthttps://pastebin.ca/401781521:44
vknechtbut I guess I should try the mixed image21:45
malremove the libGLESv* files in those folders21:45
vknechtok21:45
malonly in those folders, not in any subfolders21:45
ghosalmartinmal: perhaps thats the key?21:45
malghosalmartin: probably, we also need to get the qcom version working21:46
malvknecht: then run the systemctl restart anbox-container-manager.service again21:47
malvknecht: also in addition to dmesg anbox can debugged using the tombstones somewhere in /var/lib/anbox/data/21:48
mal*can be21:48
vknechthuhu...21:49
vknechtApr 22 23:48:50 Sailfish init: critical process 'healthd' exited 4 times in 4 minutes; rebooting into recovery mode21:49
vknechtguess I should reboot phone :-)21:49
malvknecht: usually tombstones tell more useful things21:49
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malvknecht: is that from sailfish or anbox21:49
malpretty sure from anbox21:50
ghosalmartinmal: how come?21:50
vknechtthat's journalctl -alfb --no-pager from the console21:50
malghosalmartin: would make things easier if don't need to change kernel too much21:51
malvknecht: anbox produces those init: messages, sailfish would print droid-hal-init:21:52
* vknecht feels it's a bit late to go rummaging in tombstones...21:52
vknechtah...21:52
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vknechtsince I have 64bits kernel, I probably should use the mixed image then ?21:53
malprobably21:53
malnot 100% sure21:54
* vknecht works around the tombstones, for now...21:54
malvknecht: there should be a clear message somewhere in case of mismatching binder version21:54
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ghosalmartinmal, what flag was the qualcomm version?22:24
vknechtdoesn't look much betterwith mixed image : https://pastebin.ca/401781822:28
vknechtit's late, thanks and have a good night :-)22:28
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