Sunday, 2023-01-29

ThaodanI like that you mention my project but you mostly copied the sources of my docs and the Sailfish Os docs together.03:06
T42<rfasciani> What were you expecting? Its a DOCUMENTATION of how to PROPERLY install "your" COPIED/ported Sailfish OS, and avoid the poor situation, "your" docs are leading people to, since at least, OCT of last year. All the resources are mentioned there, i have no intention of making a bame out of it, if that's what you are thinking.10:52
T42<rfasciani> 10:52
T42<rfasciani> Don't get me wrong, i appreciate you porting it, just your words that sounded quite rude, and self-important.10:52
T42<rfasciani> 10:52
T42<rfasciani> Use it or not, i dont give a s... mate, but you as the porter of it, should. If you dont want people trying to help you out, or ORGANIZING "your" docs, than just do yourself instead of putting a link to Jolla's website, that you know for a few months now, can and will cause that issue over and over again.10:52
T42<rfasciani> 10:52
T42<rfasciani> Cheers, have a good one. (re @SailfishFreenodeIRCBridgeBot: <Thaodan>I like that...)10:52
T42<rfasciani> What were you expecting? Its a DOCUMENTATION of how to PROPERLY install "your" COPIED/ported Sailfish OS, and avoid the poor situation, "your" docs are leading people to, since at least, OCT of last year. All the resources are mentioned there, i have no intention of making a name out of it, if that's what you are thinking.10:57
T42<rfasciani> 10:57
T42<rfasciani> Don't get me wrong, i appreciate you porting it, just your words that sounded quite rude, and self-important.10:57
T42<rfasciani> 10:57
T42<rfasciani> Use it or not, i dont give a s... mate, but you as the porter of it, should. If you dont want people trying to help you out, or ORGANIZING "your" docs, than just do yourself instead of putting a link to Jolla's website, that you know for a few months now, can and will cause that issue over and over again.10:57
T42<rfasciani> 10:57
T42<rfasciani> Cheers, have a good one. (edited) (re @SailfishFreenodeIRCBridgeBot: <Thaodan>I like that...)10:57
T42<Umeaman> Is there a procedure written somewhere what needs to be patched to add a new hybris branch?11:01
T42<Umeaman> Like, what files actually that needs to be patched.11:01
ThaodanWell I suggest to make changes and contribute back instead of copying documentation together. I don't see saying what you did can be considered rude.13:49
T42<rfasciani> Your suggestion, is exactly what i did, you just dont want to assume that was a contribution, because it was not you who did it. You are talking about copying, like if your own documentation, or porting, was not a copy of someones elses work, like if Sailfish OS, was your work from scratch.17:45
T42<rfasciani> 17:45
T42<rfasciani> Thats the main reason Open Source communities advance on slow paces... I have been on Open Sources communities for at least 20 years now, and i have seen, or lived this same kind of situation, over and over again. Someone do some kind of work, and since they do out of their good heart, and its free, they put themselves on a pedestal, and whatever someone else try to do to help, is not good enough. Hardly the Open Source community thinks of17:45
T42<rfasciani> 17:45
T42<rfasciani> If you dont wanna use it dont... But at least take 5 minutes of your precious time, to write down:17:45
T42<rfasciani> 17:45
T42<rfasciani> "USE ANDROID 10!"17:45
T42<rfasciani> 17:45
T42<rfasciani> Again, have a good one17:45
T42<rfasciani> Cheers. (re @SailfishFreenodeIRCBridgeBot: <Thaodan>Well I sugg...)17:45
T42<rfasciani> Your suggestion, is exactly what i did, you just dont want to assume that was a contribution, because it was not you who did it. You are talking about copying, like if your own documentation, or porting, was not a copy of someones elses work, like if Sailfish OS, was your work from scratch.17:46
T42<rfasciani> 17:46
T42<rfasciani> Thats the main reason Open Source communities advance on slow paces... I have been on Open Sources communities for at least 20 years now, and i have seen, or lived this same kind of situation, over and over again. Someone do some kind of work, and since they do out of their good heart, and its free, they put themselves on a pedestal, and whenever someone else try to help, is not good enough. Hardly the Open Source community thinks of new us17:46
T42<rfasciani> 17:46
T42<rfasciani> If you dont wanna use it dont... But at least take 5 minutes of your precious time, to write down:17:46
T42<rfasciani> 17:46
T42<rfasciani> "USE ANDROID 10!"17:46
T42<rfasciani> 17:46
T42<rfasciani> Again, have a good one17:46
T42<rfasciani> Cheers. (edited) (re @SailfishFreenodeIRCBridgeBot: <Thaodan>Well I sugg...)17:46
T42<rfasciani> Your suggestion, is exactly what i did, you just dont want to assume that was a contribution, because it was not you who did it. You are talking about copying, like if your own documentation, or porting, was not a copy of someones elses work, like if Sailfish OS, was your work from scratch.17:46
T42<rfasciani> 17:46
T42<rfasciani> Thats the main reason Open Source communities advance on slow paces... I have been on Open Sources communities for at least 20 years now, and i have seen, or lived this same kind of situation, over and over again. Someone do some kind of work, and since they do out of their good heart, and its free, they put themselves on a pedestal, and whenever someone else try to help, is not good enough. Hardly the Open Source community thinks of new us17:46
T42<rfasciani> 17:46
T42<rfasciani> If you dont wanna use it dont... But at least take 5 minutes of your precious time, to write down:17:46
T42<rfasciani> 17:46
T42<rfasciani> "USE ANDROID 10!"17:46
T42<rfasciani> 17:46
T42<rfasciani> Again, have a good one17:46
T42<rfasciani> Cheers. (edited) (re @SailfishFreenodeIRCBridgeBot: <Thaodan>Well I sugg...)17:46
deathmist2@rfasciani can you stop using the telegram edit feature already17:46
deathmist2that just sent a massive wall of text on IRC17:46
T42<rfasciani> English is not my main language, so im fixing a few writting mistakes.17:48
T42<rfasciani> 17:48
T42<rfasciani> Thats proves exactly my point, always a drama for small reasons. (re @SailfishFreenodeIRCBridgeBot: <deathmist2>@rfascia...)17:48
deathmist2it17:48
deathmist2's written in the rules17:49
deathmist2or rather pinned message I guess, I wouldn't know I don't follow this chat on telegram side17:49
deathmist2take a look at this https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/logs/%23sailfishos-porters/%23sailfishos-porters.2023-01-29.log.html17:50
deathmist2@rfasciani what documentation needs fixing exactly? it would be much better to fix the problems at the source17:58
T42<rfasciani> https://irc.thaodan.de/.imgstore/d8b84a9c/file_4463_oga.ogg18:09
T42<rfasciani> https://irc.thaodan.de/.imgstore/d2de67d8/file_4464_oga.ogg18:10
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Thaodandeathmist2:  that's what I suggested https://github.com/SailfishOS-SonyXperia/bugs/issues/7618:27
ThaodanI really don't get the drama, like I didn't write all the docs my self.18:28
ThaodanAnyway I suggest to create a PR with changes to the file before I can come back to fix it: https://github.com/SailfishOS-SonyXperia/bugs/blob/master/INSTALL.org18:29
T42<elros34> the channel description on telegram should be updated with edit/paste rules. I guess pinned message it can be showed easily  but currently  I can't even see this  message in telegram desktop18:43
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T42<b100dian> Do you want to hide the pinned message bar? It will stay hidden until the pinned message is changed -> says the click on X to close the pinned message21:39
T42<elros34> I do not even see it. Just want to suggest to add rules also to channel description21:50
T42<parmjotsinghrobot> @elros3421:53
T42<parmjotsinghrobot> Forwarded from abhishek_0: Welcome to Sailfish OS Porters group,21:53
T42<parmjotsinghrobot> Some rules before you start:21:53
T42<parmjotsinghrobot> - Dont use the direct reply feature as it does not look good on the IRC side, rather use @their_username if tg or just their nick if IRC21:53
T42<parmjotsinghrobot> - Do not edit your sent messages.21:53
T42<parmjotsinghrobot> - Be nice to each other.21:53
T42<parmjotsinghrobot> - Dont post screenshots/photos of terminal log.21:54
T42<parmjotsinghrobot> - Use paste.ubuntu.com, pastebin.com or hastebin.com for logs.21:54
T42<parmjotsinghrobot> - Dont ping people unless they are currently helping you with the issue.21:54
T42<parmjotsinghrobot> - No Promotions allowed.21:54
T42<parmjotsinghrobot> - If anyone hasn't replied to your issue, check group logs if someone had similar issue.21:54
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T42<parmjotsinghrobot> HADK: https://sailfishos.org/hadk21:54
T42<parmjotsinghrobot> FAQ-HADK: https://bit.ly/faq-hadk21:54
T42<parmjotsinghrobot> What21:54
T42<parmjotsinghrobot> Where did the message forward go21:54
T42<parmjotsinghrobot> https://t.me/sailfishos_porters/897021:54

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