Wednesday, 2013-04-10

chriadamnothing good ever came of staring into the mouth of a gift-horse :-P00:01
chriadamI never really understood that saying.  Is it to look at the teeth of the horse so you know how old it is?00:02
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covoxI thought it was so you could determine if he's either got peanut butter on his gums or if he's a real talking horse00:03
chriadammakes sense now ;-)00:04
ljpchriadam: yes, that or the trojan horse thing00:04
chriadamtoo high to look in its mouth00:05
chriadamwell, maybe from the walls or something.00:05
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MFaro-Tusinoi'm back00:54
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MFaro-Tusinohow's everyone?12:57
Stskeepsgood, thanks12:58
MFaro-Tusinowhat's new on the great sea? (Sorry for the bad attempt at a Sailfish joke :p )12:59
Stskeepssailors sitting around a table, hacking13:00
MFaro-TusinoYAY! Just what I like!13:00
MFaro-TusinoAny new hardware adapted lately?13:00
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Stskeepshehe, ;)13:01
MFaro-TusinoGood man :D13:01
MFaro-TusinoAnyone here good with getting Qt Creator set up for BB10 ( I know its the wrong place but It will make porting efforts a lot easier - Harmattan > Sailfish >BB10)13:02
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MFaro-TusinoThanks Lucien :D13:18
MFaro-TusinoThere isn't a Sailfish plugin yet for 2.7 right?13:26
MFaro-Tusinos/2.7/QtC 2.713:26
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Sfiet_Konstantinuse QtC shipped with Sailfish OS SDK14:25
Sfiet_Konstantinshould work14:25
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HartziSfiet_Konstantin: why there are no qml designer in sailfish sdk?14:55
Sfiet_KonstantinHartzi: dunno14:55
Hartziis the sdk too alpha atm and designer will be added later?14:56
Sfiet_Konstantinnot sure14:57
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Hartziis here anyone who is sure?14:58
Yanielprobably, but they won't tell14:58
Hartzithey should tell14:59
YanielI assume they will add it14:59
Hartziotherwise it's like giving a finger to the developer community15:00
Yanielor change the setup to something that is simple to add to a "vanilla" qt creator15:00
Jonninobody in real life uses designer to develop qml15:00
Yaniels/qt creator/qt setup15:00
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HartziJonni: dont be so sure15:01
MFaro-TusinoI don't use designer, in fact in setting up Qt C 2.7 with BB10, I hate designer15:02
MFaro-TusinoLooking forward to seeing the Sailfish Plugin come out later15:02
MFaro-TusinoThat will make everyone happy :d15:02
Jonniwell anything more complex than helloworld has been pain earlier for designer. Unless digia has improved designer functionality lately, since its been a while since I last saw it.15:02
HartziJonni: okay Nokia-version didn't even work15:03
Hartziso i unterstand that no-one used it15:03
Jonniwhen you are doing pixel perfect ui, you dont use designer, since you quite often need to do some custom tricks and designed gets confused on those.15:05
Hartziyes but it should work fine with basic things15:06
Hartziand for lazy people15:06
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Jonnithat said, QtC is opensource project, so you can fix and contribute on designer implementation :)15:07
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Hartzimaybe i just put my trust in digia15:09
Hartzibut i think the hell will freeze faster than they'll make it work as it should15:09
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sledgesdigia announced new QtCreator version, boasting Designer to deal with QtQuick 2.0 along with the qt5 craze15:32
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MFaro-Tusinosailfish is a lot nicer to code for than bb10 (QML stand point)17:02
MFaro-Tusinomaybe its because I'm yet to fully learn, not sure17:02
MFaro-Tusinobut like ListView, so far all documentation shows its needs a XML file to dictate the model17:03
ajalkaneIt doesn't17:08
ajalkaneYou can do C++ model17:08
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ajalkaneBut that's not really the proper topic for this channel :)17:08
MFaro-TusinoNo, i know. I was simply stating that to me, Sailfish > BB10 from a coding stand point (actually from every stand point but since I'm yet to use a device - is it fair to make that call? )17:09
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ajalkaneWell, I dislike BB's totally different QML model from the QtQuick one too. And I have the BB10 LE and regarding OS I like N9 more. So hopefully the same stands for Sailfish also.17:14
ajalkaneThat said, BB10's Cascades is not bad, but I think it's without good reason different from QtQuick. And the OS is nice too, but it didn't excite me.17:14
MFaro-TusinoI want the LE17:15
MFaro-TusinoHopefully Vivek will come through and get me one17:15
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ajalkaneIt's a good looking phone. I haven't really used it much yet as mobile data doesn't work in Finland with it.17:15
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