Monday, 2013-08-05

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stephganyone know if the emulator is set up to leave core dumps anywhere, it doesn't look like it is06:48
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:Added the numbers and cropped it :)08:47
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: :)08:47
Sfiet_Konstantinbut did you see what Morpog created yesterday ?08:47
SuperpelicanI just wanted to ping him about it08:48
Superpelicanbut he's not on IRC08:48
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: ^08:49
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:I'd love to see it though :)08:51
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:It's probably *much* better than mine08:52
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yunta (you forgot the g)08:53
rvangehi all - newbie to IRC and sailfishos here08:53
yuntahi rvange08:53
rvangeI am having issues installing the sdk on ubuntu 12.0408:54
rvangeis this the right place to ask?08:54
yuntayes, here and mailing list I guess08:54
Superpelicanyunta:Is that Morpog's?08:55
yuntaSuperpelican: it seems so from Sfiet_Konstantin's words ?08:55
SuperpelicanI must've missed that08:55
SuperpelicanI just reconnected08:55
rvangeok, here I go. After cklcking next in the second scren during install (where you enter install dir) I get these errors:
SuperpelicanI got a lag of 4s and counting08:56
rvangean the installer hangs08:56
Superpelicanit looks very professional08:56
rvangelater in the output these errors:
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yuntalbt: ^08:59
rvangeit says Ubuntu 12.10 on the website, but I have seen a guide on the net with 12.04 - anyone using it succsfully on Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit?08:59
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yuntarvange: is that default 12.10 ubuntu on normal machine? or some low-memory, or hardened setup?09:02
lbt" Some Ubuntu systems report: "( Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_style_get: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed" - please run "export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0" before running installer "   I thought that had gone09:02
lbtwill add it to current known issues too09:02
yuntawow, complex09:03
* lbt -> coffee :)09:03
rvangemy pc is laptop, Intel i7 with 8Gb RAM09:03
yuntathx lbt09:03
yuntarvange: please try what lbt wrote :)09:03
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rvangegot one step further :)09:04
rvangeinstalling now - looks like I was just missing the export09:04
lbtthat's a bug in the installer for sure09:05
yuntarvange: btw, is that freshly downloaded installer?09:05
* lbt -> coffee ... really :)09:05
rvangeyes, downloaded one hour ago09:05
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Morpog_PCsuperpelican, have you had a look yesterday on the icon I offered you?09:35
SuperpelicanMorpog_PC:Yes, looked at it today09:35
Superpelicanthis morning09:35
Superpelicanit's really nice09:35
Morpog_PCwant it?09:35
SuperpelicanMorpog_PC:Would you like to see mine?09:36
Morpog_PCyou sowed it yesterday09:36
SuperpelicanStill making some minor adjustments ;)09:37
Morpog_PCharmattan or sailfishos final icons could look like that:09:37
Superpelicanlooks great09:37
SuperpelicanI haven't decided yet though09:37
Morpog_PChehe, anyway, I can send you the SVG if you want it :)09:38
SuperpelicanI've also resized the clamshell on the canvas09:38
Superpelicanand now it's more centered09:38
SuperpelicanI've also removed the blue background09:38
SuperpelicanAs Sfiet_Konstantin recommended09:38
Morpog_PCyeah, was quite aggressive blue09:39
SuperpelicanMorpog_PC:Oh, I'd already changed that09:39
SuperpelicanMorpog_PC:Give me a sec09:40
SuperpelicanI'm trying to upload the latest version :)09:41
Superpelicanthat border isn't supposed to be there09:42
SuperpelicanI thought I'd finally centered the clamshell09:42
Morpog_PCi would remove that yellow border at all09:42
Morpog_PCand make the yellow outline around the shell a bit less transparent09:43
Morpog_PCcan you read the 1 to 10 in small icon sizes still?09:43
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Morpog_PClike 80x8009:44
SuperpelicanMorpog_PC:Should be like this:
Morpog_PCyeah thats better09:44
SuperpelicanMorpog_PC:Don't know how the border around the shell came there09:45
SuperpelicanI accidently clicked on somehting09:45
Superpelicanand suddenly it was there09:45
Superpelicanbut I liked it09:45
Superpelicanso kept it09:45
SuperpelicanMorpog_PC:If I try to remove the yellow, square border the border around the shell is removed too09:45
Superpelicanthey're one object09:46
Morpog_PCso it's something like an inner glow?09:46
Superpelicaneh no09:46
Superpelicanit isn't meant like that at least09:47
Superpelicanjust a thick border09:47
SuperpelicanMorpog_PC:Should I change the color of the numbers?09:48
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Morpog_PCmaybe a bit less black, darg grey or so09:48
SuperpelicanMorpog_PC:But how do I remove the square border?09:49
Superpelicanwithout removing the shell border?09:49
Superpelicanthe borders both consist of multiple object09:49
Morpog_PCor a bit more transparency for them, like 85%09:49
SuperpelicanMorpog_PC:But I want to remove the square border?09:49
Morpog_PCthat was for the text still :)09:50
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Morpog_PCwell, hard to judge remotely. Maybe you can't.09:50
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SuperpelicanI'll try to make a screencast of it09:51
Morpog_PCdid you group objects?09:51
Superpelicanwell I did do ctrl+a once09:52
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Superpelicanto resize the shell09:52
Superpelicanand center it09:52
Morpog_PCthats not grouping09:52
Morpog_PCjust multi select09:52
SuperpelicanMorpog_PC:I've created a screencast09:53
Superpelicanframerate very low though09:53
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Morpog_PCmaybe grouped accidently?09:59
Morpog_PCselect it and try shift+ctrl+g09:59
Superpelicandidn't work10:00
Morpog_PCthen try shiftr+ctrl+k10:00
Superpelicanthat worked10:01
SuperpelicanMorpog_PC:Do you also know what it was now?10:01
Morpog_PCwell it was a combined object which you just dissected10:02
SuperpelicanMorpog_PC:Those borders consist of lots of gray lines10:02
Superpelicanor paths10:02
Superpelicanor whatever they're called10:03
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Superpelicanall the square border lines are gone now :)10:06
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Superpelicanbut I have a new problem :(10:07
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SuperpelicanMorpog_PC: :(10:08
SuperpelicanMorpog_PC:Both are the same imge10:10
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Morpog_PChow that?10:10
Superpelicanbut right is viewed in Gwenview10:10
Superpelicanleft is in Inkscape10:10
Morpog_PC2 and 3 is missing10:10
Morpog_PCfor final icons I would export to PNG files10:11
Superpelicanwhat are 2 and 3?10:11
Morpog_PCnumbers on the right10:11
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: because gwenview is bad at rendering SVG10:11
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:So it's not my image?10:12
Superpelicanthat is causing that problem10:12
Morpog_PCwhat problem are you refering to?10:12
Superpelicanthat the right image viewed in Gwenview looks so weird10:12
Morpog_PCthe black lines in shell outerline?10:12
Superpelicanthat too10:12
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Superpelicanand that lines seem to be missing10:13
Morpog_PCthats the black background10:13
Morpog_PCthey are missing on inkscape too, just the background is white10:13
Morpog_PCmorning Sfiet_Konstantin  btw :)10:13
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Superpelicanwell then I'll just make the background white10:16
Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_PC: morning :)10:16
Morpog_PCor fix it in photoshop10:16
Morpog_PCerrm gimp i mean :)10:16
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SuperpelicanMorpog_PC:Where did you get that Sailfish OS icon template?11:47
Morpog_PCi made it myself11:47
Morpog_PCicons in emulator are 90x9011:48
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Superpelicanlbt:I can't login to the root account of the Sailfish emulator11:57
Superpelicanpassword "nemo" doesn't work11:57
Superpelicanit does work for the nemo account though11:57
fk_lxwasn't it l:nemo p:rootme ?12:00
SuperpelicanI could login to nemo12:00
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Superpelicanand then do su -12:00
Superpelicannow I'm root :)12:00
SuperpelicanI'm finally going to install some stuff on my emu12:00
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Sfiet_Konstantinfk_lx: nemo nemo12:06
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fk_lxSfiet_Konstantin: bad memory ;-)12:08
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Sfiet_Konstantinfk_lx: :)12:10
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piggz_i logged into the emulator and used ssu to get the url for the repoistory ... unfortunatley there were no arm packages :)12:20
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Sfiet_Konstantinpiggz_: :D12:25
Sfiet_Konstantinnice try12:25
piggz_Sfiet_Konstantin: yeah, had to be worth a try ;)12:26
Sfiet_Konstantinpiggz_: well, an arm emulator image do not really worth it imo12:27
Sfiet_Konstantinjust an empty screen with components gallery and settings12:27
Sfiet_Konstantin(settings in which there is nothing)12:27
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SuperpelicanDoesn't it look awesome? :D12:28
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: <312:29
Sfiet_Konstantinbut looks weiredly distorded12:29
SuperpelicanI still have to replace the pause and next song icons though12:29
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Superpelicanyou mean it's a bit stretched?12:29
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:It's meant that way12:31
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yuntaSuperpelican: what's that app?12:33
Superpelicanyunta:It's my app :)12:33
Superpelicannot finished though12:34
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Superpelicanit's a multiplication table practising app12:34
SuperpelicanStill have to remove the next song and pause buttons though12:35
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piggz_which components are eaiest to port from, meego components or symbian components?12:35
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piggz_also, does silical have a nice map widget as powerful as the one from QML1?12:37
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yuntaSuperpelican: let me know when it's ready12:43
Superpelicanyunta:I will12:43
Superpelicanit won't take to long anymore :)12:43
Superpelicanyunta:I'm finishing the UI12:43
Superpelicanfor example:creating an About dialog, finishing the cover etc.12:44
Superpelicanand then I have to integrate the logic12:44
SuperpelicanI already have the logic12:44
yuntacool, but keep in mind that code is just half a way :) packaging is pita12:44
Superpelicanbut my app doesn't have any dependencies12:44
Superpelicanaside from the normal Sailfish stuff12:44
Superpelicanand it doesn't do anything special12:45
yuntaI see you already have rpm dir there too12:45
Superpelicanso it should be a lot easier than packaging a kernel :)12:45
Superpelicaneh yeah12:45
Superpelicanbut I haven't touched it yet12:45
Superpelicanyunta:I already have the logic:
Superpelicanjust needs to be modified for GUI app usage12:46
SuperpelicanI'll have to convert it to a class12:46
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Morpog_PCnice Superpelican13:05
SuperpelicanMorpog_PC:Your icon was very nice too :)13:06
Superpelicanbut I thought a simpler icon would better suit my app13:06
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Morpog_PCstill Sfiet_Konstantin was right, it seems to look a bit stretched13:07
Nicd-Superpelican: it would be easier to click your links if you put a space after :13:09
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njeiseckHi, is anybody using cmake for building stuff?13:15
njeiseckfor sailfish?13:16
Yanielhaven't built any sailfish stuff besides the examples yetr13:16
njeiseckwell, that is easy ;-)13:17
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njeiseckcould get cmake working for harmattan builds, but the sailfish build environment seems to be much more complex (remote compiling stuff in the vm…)13:18
Sfiet_Konstantinnjeiseck: you might be able to do that. You should install cmake in the MerSDK vm13:18
Yanielbut I've used cmake on all 3 major desktop OSs13:18
Sfiet_Konstantinuse it in the spec file as builder13:18
Sfiet_Konstantinand the call mb via SSH on the spec file to make it build the package13:19
njeiseckwhere can i find that spec file13:19
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Sfiet_Konstantinnjeiseck: well, if you create a project with QtCreator, you have a template spec file in the rpm folder13:20
Sfiet_Konstantinnjeiseck: honestly, better use qmake13:20
njeiseckok. that's great for a start.13:20
Sfiet_Konstantinexcept if your app is very complex (doezen of libs, plugins, many binaries etc)13:20
njeiseckyes, it's building all the dependecies...13:21
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njeiseckand I have never managed to get custom preprocessing stuff running in qmake.13:22
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin, Morpog_PC:Maybe I've found that solution to the recordmydesktop low framerate problem:
njeiseckqmake is probably the worst documented part of qt.13:23
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:, Morpog_PC:I think it's the solution13:23
Superpelicanbecause the bitrate in my videos is very low13:23
Superpelicanthe size is *very* low13:23
Superpelican400 kb for a 30s video13:23
SuperpelicanI'll try recording the emulator again13:24
Superpelicanand it probably also explains the tearing with a higher framerate: not enough bitrate the save the whole video13:25
piggz_Sfiet_Konstantin: how easy is it to make an exisiting qmlapplicationviewer based app work on sailfish?  is ti better to start from scratch and migrate the code over? or will qtcreator add the nescessary build files, and with some #ifdef'ign it will work?13:26
Sfiet_Konstantinpiggz_: imo, better to start from scratch13:27
Sfiet_Konstantinthe qmlapplicationviewer is such a pain13:27
Sfiet_Konstantinor actually, i don't know13:28
Sfiet_Konstantinit might be possible to do just a different main13:28
Sfiet_Konstantinmost code should be compatible13:28
SuperpelicanI think a good plan would be13:28
Superpelican(but I'm not a pro)13:28
Superpelicanfirst try to mimic your old app's QML UI13:28
Superpelicanas much as possible13:28
Superpelicanin a Sailfish way13:28
Superpelicanusing Silica components13:28
Superpelicanand then try to migrate over the logic/C++13:29
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:^^, what do you think about it?13:29
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: well, for the QML part, you will have do a lot (or some port)13:30
Sfiet_Konstantinbut i guess that piggz_'s problem is more in C++ side13:30
Sfiet_Konstantinpiggz_: do you have source code for me to see ?13:30
piggz_Sfiet_Konstantin: sure ... tho, my ownCloud news client already has 2 different systems, BB Cascades and QMLApplicationViewer .. so, some #ifdefs should make it work with the Sailfish viewer app13:32
Sfiet_Konstantinpiggz_: yep13:32
Sfiet_Konstantinadd the sailfishapplication.* in your codebase13:32
Sfiet_Konstantinand ifdef your main13:33
piggz_and then i could do my more complex app (everytrail map viewer/recorder)13:33
Sfiet_Konstantinshouldn't be hard13:33
Sfiet_Konstantinbut you will need a separated QML codebase13:33
piggz_i will copy the files from a blank projects13:33
Sfiet_Konstantinbut it seems that you already have them for BB10 and Harmattan13:33
piggz_sure .. i already have seperate cascades and qtquick1 qml files13:33
Sfiet_Konstantingood luck13:34
Sfiet_Konstantinshouldn't be too hard13:34
Sfiet_Konstantinespecially the C++ side that should just compile out of the box13:34
Sfiet_Konstantin(except if you did not made it compatible with Qt5)13:34
piggz_oh, thats a point13:35
piggz_its masically just a bunch of models13:36
piggz_however, it moving to qt5, it may be best to just start a new project and make it work on the one platform13:36
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:Looks like I'll have to switch another screen recording app13:38
Superpelicanlibtheora has problems13:38
Sfiet_Konstantinwelcome AG3 !13:38
Sfiet_Konstantinpiggz_: beware13:39
Sfiet_Konstantinnew QAbstractListModel have a new pure virtual method called roleNames13:39
piggz_Sfiet_Konstantin: beware of?13:39
Sfiet_Konstantinit replaces setRoleNames13:39
piggz_oh yes, i know that after porting space invaders to qt513:39
Sfiet_Konstantinah :)13:39
Sfiet_Konstantinok :)13:39
Sfiet_Konstantinit is easy to workaround, snce you just do an ifdef in the ctor13:40
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piggz_Sfiet_Konstantin: will creator add the rpm files when adding sailfish as a target?13:43
Sfiet_Konstantinpiggz_: yep13:43
Sfiet_Konstantinwell, I won't actually count on that13:43
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Sfiet_Konstantinit might just be the files in the template13:43
Sfiet_KonstantinI'm using my own build of QtC for basically everything except sailfish, and use Sailfish QtC for sailfish only13:44
Sfiet_Konstantinso never added any other target13:44
piggz_it would be good if the sdk installer gave an option of 'installing plugins to existing qtcreator instance'13:45
piggz_i have 5 qt creators!13:45
SuperpelicanI have 3 QtC installed13:45
Superpelican1 Qt513:45
Superpelicanbecause openSUSE doesn't have Qt5 in the repos13:45
Superpelicanthere is one in the OBS13:45
Sfiet_Konstantinpiggz_: :D13:46
Superpelicanbut it made my whole KDE installation unstable13:46
Sfiet_Konstantinpiggz_: no, the QtC for Sailfish might not be compatible with other stuff13:46
Sfiet_Konstantinlike I have a 2.8.113:46
Superpelicanand it didn't work well either13:46
Sfiet_Konstantinand the Sailfish one is 2.7.4 IIRC13:46
Superpelicanso I downloaded the Qt5 SDK from Digia/Qt-project.org13:46
Superpelicanand I still have the Qt4 one from the openSUSE repos13:46
Superpelicanand the Sailfish one13:46
Superpelican(although I can delete the Qt4 one now)13:47
Sfiet_KonstantinI killed the QtC of Qt5 from Digia13:47
Sfiet_KonstantinI prefer a Qt4 based QtC13:47
Sfiet_Konstantinit integrates with oxygen <313:47
Sfiet_Konstantinand mine have qbs support13:48
piggz_1) plain 2.8.0 - 2) Nokia QtSDK - 3) necessitas - 4) Qt5 SDK - 5) Sailfish13:48
Sfiet_Konstantinand I plan to learn it (it is pretty good)13:48
Sfiet_Konstantin1-2-3-4 can be merged13:48
Sfiet_Konstantinmy 2.8.1 QtC have as target: fedora Qt4, fedora Qt5, Digia Qt5, Android, Harmattan13:48
piggz_yeah, i think i use 1) for bb10, necessitas and harmattan13:49
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:Does yum handle orphans?13:49
piggz_there ought to be some shared repository for target files, it can be a pain to get them right13:49
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: no13:50
Sfiet_Konstantinyum is shit13:50
Superpelicantoo bad13:50
Sfiet_Konstantinpiggz_: woops, sorry, I forgot BB10 as well :)13:50
Superpelicanso apt-get is the only one then13:50
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: yep, that's sad13:50
SuperpelicanI don't like apt-get13:50
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican:  it is quite nice13:51
Superpelicanit's inconsistent13:51
Superpelicanit's ugly13:51
Superpelicanbut fast13:51
Superpelicanit spews out lots of unnecessary output13:51
Superpelicanwhich I don't want to see13:51
Superpelicanreally? "Processing triggers for appX"13:51
Superpelican"Running ldconfig"13:51
Superpelicanget xx ""13:52
Superpelicanand apt-cache search is awful13:52
Superpelicanit doesn't show if an app is installed13:52
Superpelicanit doesn't show the version13:52
Superpelicanaptitude is better though13:52
Superpelicanbut it still spams my shell13:52
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:Kazam doesn't work either13:53
Superpelicanit doesn't even start13:53
Superpelicanso ffmpeg is the only choice left13:54
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Superpelicanalthough it should be a pretty nice choice :)13:54
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:Maybe I can write a nice QML front-end for ffmpeg screen recording :)13:54
Superpelicanwould be awesome13:55
piggz_Sfiet_Konstantin: so, regarding my tweet ... seen anything like that before? its probably a bug in BB10, im running the leaked version ... qt5 based code works ok tho13:55
Sfiet_Konstantinpiggz_: imo that's a bug as well13:56
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AG3    id:pushbutton14:03
AG3    property string txt14:03
AG3    signal clicked(string txt)14:03
AG3    Button14:03
AG3    {14:03
AG3        id : button14:03
AG3        width: 5014:03
AG3        height: 6014:03
AG3        text:txt14:03
AG3    }14:03
AG3I make up a button class,and call it like this14:03
AG3Mybutton{txt:"1" ; onClicked: ans.text=txt }14:04
AG3but "onClicked"is not work14:04
AG3Im new in qml...14:05
AG3thx alot~14:05
SuperpelicanAG3:Please try pasting code on a paste site14:07
Superpelicannot on an IRC channel14:07
Superpelicanfor example you can use14:07
SuperpelicanAG3: http://paste.kde.org14:07
Superpelicanor http://pastie.org14:07
Superpelicanor the most known http://pastebin.com14:07
AG3ok i'll try14:07
SuperpelicanAG3:And the same for (long) error output14:08
SuperpelicanAG3:Why are you trying to make your own button class?14:10
SuperpelicanYou don't need too14:10
SuperpelicanSailfish has it's own14:10
SuperpelicanYou can find information on how to use the components at:
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SuperpelicanAG3:please read above14:12
AG3oh  yes i'm using it..i just want to make my code short...14:12
SuperpelicanAG3:So you're using the Silica components?14:12
Superpelicanwell AG314:13
Superpelicanit's hard to tell this way14:14
Superpelicanwhat's wrong14:14
Superpelicanis there any error output?14:14
SuperpelicanCheck the "Issues" tab14:14
Superpelicanat the bottom of the Qt Creator SDK14:14
Superpelicanthe failure can be everywhere14:17
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SuperpelicanAG3:I've looked into your code again14:18
Sfiet_KonstantinAG3: what are you trying to do ?14:19
Sfiet_Konstantinbe able to check which button triggered a click ?14:19
Superpelicanbut the signal is never emitted14:19
Sfiet_Konstantinof cause it is never clicked14:20
Sfiet_Konstantinbecause you don't relay the signal14:20
Sfiet_Konstantinhowever AG3 you are doing it wrong14:20
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:But the clicked signal isn't connected to when you actually click the button14:20
Superpelicanso it's never emitted14:20
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: exactly14:20
Superpelicanqml can't guess by the name14:20
Superpelicanwhat you want it to do ;)14:21
Sfiet_Konstantinbut actually AG3 is doing it wrong: you can use objectName14:21
Sfiet_Konstantinthat is a property to name objects14:21
Superpelicanwell there my knowledge ends14:21
AG3oh yes i got it..14:21
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Superpelicanseriously ffmpeg doesn't work either14:22
Superpelicanit keeps complaining that x11grab isn't a valid argument for -f14:22
Sfiet_Konstantintry something like that14:22
Superpelicanlit's everywhere on the web14:22
Sfiet_Konstantinit will make your code WAY MORE clean14:22
Sfiet_Konstantinand connect to MyButton onButtonClicked14:23
Sfiet_Konstantinand give name to your buttons using objectName14:23
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SuperpelicanAG3:Are you sure you want to complicate your code like that?14:23
Superpelicanyes it will work14:23
Superpelicanbut complex code is more likely to have bugs14:24
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SuperpelicanI'd rather just use Button{} directly14:24
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: it about complexing, but more about breaking an essential rule14:26
Sfiet_Konstantinnever use text that should be displayed as identifier14:26
Sfiet_Konstantinwhat if the text is localized etc ?14:26
Sfiet_Konstantinyou should use identifiers14:26
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Superpelicanx11grab+ffmpeg doesn't work either14:29
Superpelicanwhat *can* I actually use to record my desktop?14:29
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: a better computer ? a camera ?14:29
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:It's a bug in recordmydesktop14:30
Sfiet_Konstantinthe tearing is just from you computer unable to handle the vbox + live encoding14:30
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: well, I dn't have it14:30
Superpelicanbut I have a core i3 @ 2,1 GHz14:30
Superpelicanthis is mad14:30
SuperpelicanI've recorded my desktop on a Pentium 414:30
SuperpelicanAnd recordmydesktop encodes after the actual recording14:31
SuperpelicanI've found another parameter collection14:33
Superpelicanwhich does work with ffmpeg14:33
Superpelicanbut now it records in avi14:35
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Superpelicanhmm .avi works ok14:41
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin: ^ but .mkv + vp8 is a bit too much on the fly14:41
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SuperpelicanThis seems to work pretty well: "ffmpeg -f x11grab -s 1333x768 -i :0.0 -r 30 -vcodec ffvhuff test.mkv"15:08
Superpelicanfrom Arch linux wiki15:08
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:I'm having problems with pageStack.push() as coveraction15:52
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:it searches for the .qml in cover/15:52
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:it shouldn't15:53
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:I was using Qt.resolvedUrl15:53
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: well, it is normal15:53
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:tried Qt.createComponent15:53
Sfiet_Konstantinyour cover is in cover/15:53
Sfiet_Konstantinso basically it reacts from there15:53
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:Isn't there a cd alternative in JS ;)15:53
Sfiet_Konstantinuse resolvedUrl("../pages/something")15:53
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: use a localpath15:53
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:What is a localpath?15:54
Sfiet_Konstantinlocal path to your file15:54
Sfiet_Konstantinrelative path15:54
Sfiet_Konstantinwrong word :/15:54
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:Isn't that a absolute path?15:54
Sfiet_Konstantinabsolute is /home/sk/.../.../file.qml15:55
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:yes I know15:56
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: so you are using a realtive path here15:56
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:But can't I let it use a path relative to the toplevel folder?15:57
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:Qt.resolvedUrl("../pages/QuestionPage.qml") didn't work15:57
Superpelicanoh it does15:58
Superpelicansorry wrong error15:58
Superpelicanwell at least I think it will work15:58
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:What was the property Page ... thingy?15:59
SuperpelicanI deleted it15:59
Superpelicanbecause I thought I didn't need it anymore15:59
Superpelican...I turned out to be wrong15:59
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: don't know anymore15:59
Sfiet_Konstantinuse your versionning system :P16:00
Sfiet_KonstantinI mean, it is hard to remember all the codes for everybody :P16:00
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:It was something like "property Page startPage"16:00
Superpelicanbut is "Page" supposed to have a capital "p"?16:00
Sfiet_Konstantinbecause it refers to a component16:01
Sfiet_KonstantinQML Page in Sailfish.Silica16:01
Superpelicanwell "Page" turned purple16:01
Superpelicanso I think it's ok :)16:01
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:the Qt.resolvedUrl("../pages/QuestionPage.qml") indeed doesn't work :(16:02
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: what doesn't work ?16:02
Sfiet_Konstantinif a page is pushed it works16:03
Sfiet_Konstantinplease be more precise16:03
Sfiet_Konstantinit might be from somewhere else :)16:03
Superpelicanit's that other error again16:03
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Superpelicanleave me alone scopes16:03
Superpelican"file:///opt/sdk/Quick2Clamshell/usr/share/Quick2Clamshell/cover/CoverPage.qml:28: ReferenceError: startPage is not defined"16:03
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin: ^16:05
Superpelicanbut how do I pass "startPage": startPage to CoverPage.qml?16:05
SuperpelicanYou don't call CoverPage.qml16:05
Superpelicanso I can't pass it parameters16:05
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Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: well, create a CoverPage component in main.qml16:07
Sfiet_Konstantinand pass the startPage here16:07
Sfiet_Konstantinand pass the created CoverPage id to coverPage in ApplicationWindow16:07
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:So I have to move the contents of CoverPage.qml to main.qml?16:08
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Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: no16:09
Sfiet_Konstantinjust create a CoverPage component in main.qml16:09
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SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:So I should treat the CoverPage.qml as a kind of class?16:09
Superpelicanand the component as an instance of it?16:09
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: that's actually what you do all the time16:10
Sfiet_Konstantinwhat you describes is the principle of QML :)16:10
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:But why do classes have id's then?16:10
SuperpelicanI'm a bit confused16:10
Sfiet_Konstantinalright, I will do with written code16:10
SuperpelicanIt looks like QML mixes objects and classes16:10
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piggz_image coverpage.qml is the class, then you create instances of it in your other qml files ... each instance has an id16:11
Sfiet_Konstantinlike that16:12
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:So I won't need CoverPage.qml anymore?16:12
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Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: you still need16:15
Sfiet_Konstantinyou use it as a prototype16:15
Sfiet_Konstantinand then, in main.qml, you instantiate it16:15
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin:But why do I still have an id in CoverPage.qml then?16:15
Superpelicanisn't that already an instance?16:16
Superpelicanto me it looks like your creating an instance of an instance16:16
Sfiet_Konstantinno, the id _in_ CoverPage is a private id16:16
Sfiet_Konstantinit is often used by other components created inside CoverPage.qml16:16
Sfiet_Konstantinbut if you write CoverPage { id: something ....16:17
Sfiet_Konstantinit is the "public" id of the created instance of CoverPage16:17
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Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: no it is not16:17
Sfiet_Konstantinsee QML as a tree16:17
Sfiet_Konstantineach file is a node16:18
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: well, I'm gonna draw something, might be better16:18
Superpelicanok lol16:18
Sfiet_KonstantinSuperpelican: well, you need some QML basis16:18
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piggz_Sfiet_Konstantin: does a TextField have any default size, or must it always be specified?  A label in a column disaplys its text, but a textField in the same column has to set anchors for left/right to display.  is this expected?16:45
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Sfiet_Konstantinpiggz_: i think yes16:51
Sfiet_Konstantina label is not a text field16:51
Sfiet_Konstantinbecaus eyou don't know in advance the size of the text field16:51
Sfiet_Konstantinimo, best practice is to anchor text fields all the time16:51
Sfiet_Konstantin(ie define it's size)16:51
piggz_ok, thats what ive done, anchored to parent left/right16:51
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Sfiet_Konstantinpiggz_: and IIRC you don't need margins, they are integrated for better looking16:53
piggz_Sfiet_Konstantin: first silica app ... shouldnt the flickable view auto-scroll when the keyboard is shown?16:59
Sfiet_Konstantinpiggz_: maybe17:00
Sfiet_Konstantinnot sure17:00
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wickwireHi guys, I'm working on embedded devices - linux and qt5, saw SailfishOS using these but for mobile17:09
wickwireany chance you think to have something like sailfishOS on a cubieboard (allwinner A10) with Mali GPU?17:09
wickwireI can build Qt5 for it, but it is relying on Xorg17:10
wickwireand I would like to drop that dependency17:10
wickwiresaw SailfishOS work done with Wayland...?17:10
Sfiet_Konstantinwickwire: I think #Mer is more suited for that17:10
Sfiet_KonstantinMer is the core OS for SailfishOS17:10
Sfiet_Konstantingo to #Mer channel and meet awesome people, like Stskeeps :)17:10
wickwirehmmm ok thanks, I'll do that!17:11
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Sfiet_Konstantinwickwire: yes, you might be able to get a Mer build running on cubieboard17:12
Sfiet_Konstantinusing (eg) libhybris and wayland17:12
wickwireYes I've managed already,17:12
Stskeepsmer+qt5+wayland works on cubieboard17:12
Stskeepsi have a blog post for it17:12
wickwirebut I was a bit puzzled because going to git web17:12
wickwireand checking the qtbase spec file17:12
wickwireI found x11 as a requirement17:13
Stskeepsit's one of the plugins17:13
Stskeepsyou can disable it by simply not including it17:13
Sfiet_Konstantinwickwire: or not installing it in your image (if you do a mer image)17:13
wickwireok but if x11 shows up as a build requirement for qtbase...17:14
Stskeepsthat's fine17:14
wickwirewon't it mean that it would install x11, when installing qtbase?17:14
Stskeepsit's not a run-time dependency17:14
Stskeepsjust a platform plugin you can select17:14
wickwireah ok17:14
Stskeepslike eglfs or xcb17:14
wickwireI see!17:14
Sfiet_Konstantinwickwire: in the packages of mer, you will find that it is splitted (for example)17:15
wickwireok, I'll keep at it then, thanks for the help!17:16
wickwireand keep up with Mer17:16
Sfiet_Konstantinwickwire: if you have trouble making images etc, come to #Mer17:16
Sfiet_Konstantinwe will try to help you :)17:16
wickwiremay thanks17:17
wickwireI'm at mer and ssvb has helped me already17:17
wickwiremy goal would be to run Qt5/QtQuick2 apps on my cubie A10,17:17
wickwirebut not using X for it17:17
Sfiet_Konstantinwickwire: what kind of apps ?17:17
Stskeepssilly question17:17
Sfiet_Konstantinis that for a particular goal ?17:17
Stskeepshow many cubieboards are in the wild?17:17
wickwirewell, there's mine for now :p17:18
wickwireanyways, it's a sort of multimedia player17:18
wickwireit's entirely built on Qt5/QML17:18
wickwireit is running on another embedded17:18
wickwirecan't get into details17:18
wickwirebut the idea would be to have it run on the cubie as well17:19
wickwireas it shouldn't be any issue, I didn't think17:19
wickwireanyway, I was trying to use the specific sunxi mali framebuffer libraries for it17:19
wickwireI have been building my own qt versions from git for a while17:19
wickwiretargeted at the other embedded17:20
wickwireand I thought that with cubie I could also manage framebuffer results17:20
Sfiet_Konstantinwickwire: awesome17:20
wickwirewithout resorting to X1117:20
wickwireI'm not very savvy on the whole thing,17:20
Sfiet_Konstantinsounds really awesome. If you made the whole thing run, let us know :)17:21
wickwireI don't know if Qt5 on Mer or for Cubie for that matter, has QtMultimedia already integrated with GStreamer and video accel17:21
wickwirebut what I ended up was17:21
wickwireusing libhybris17:21
wickwireI managed to have VLC running HD video17:22
Sfiet_Konstantinwickwire: with libhybris ?17:22
wickwireyes, following the sunxi wiki17:22
Sfiet_Konstantinand X11 ?17:22
wickwireI found a section where libhybris is used with VLC - I don't think that for VLC I used X1117:23
wickwireI just got the accelerated video running,17:23
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wickwireand I used -r flag or something to control the video from the vlc CLI versio17:23
wickwireonce I had that17:23
Sfiet_Konstantinaaah, cvlc, ok17:23
wickwireI thought that with Qt5, perhaps not having full support on QtMultimedia+GSTreamer acceleration,17:24
wickwireI thought about QProcess17:24
wickwireI have it17:24
wickwireit's not the best solution17:24
wickwirebut on the other embedded device, I have Qt5 + cli player17:24
Sfiet_KonstantinStskeeps: status of QtMultimedia + GStreamer + libhybris ?17:24
Sfiet_Konstantinis there anything ?17:24
wickwireQt5 delivers commands over the QProcess socket to the CLI video player17:25
wickwireand I'm having graphical menus17:25
StskeepsSfiet_Konstantin: i think ubuntu guys are making something17:25
wickwireon top of video17:25
wickwireand controlling the video with the Qt inputs17:25
wickwireit's not perfect I know,17:25
Sfiet_KonstantinStskeeps: interesting17:25
Sfiet_Konstantinwickwire: still something though17:25
wickwirebut since I couldn't have Gstreamer accelerated and QtMultimedia integrated...17:26
wickwireit's a risk because sometimes Qt terminates (user termination, normal) but the underlying video cli player doesn't17:26
wickwireanyway, considering that maybe cubieboard, mer,17:26
wickwireopen source embedded might be on the same boat17:27
wickwireI split my solution in two, the same way:17:27
wickwirevideo + graphics17:27
wickwireand on cubie, for video I went with libhybris + VLC17:27
wickwireit works very well17:27
wickwireno artefacts17:27
wickwirebetter than the native sunxi libraries for video17:27
wickwirethose are bad17:28
wickwireand now I was trying to fit in Qt517:28
wickwirethe rest is QProcess working17:28
wickwireconnecting the two17:28
wickwirebut I didn't want Xorg on Qt5 side17:28
wickwireI don't have it on the other embedded device17:28
wickwireand I don't think I'd actually need it17:29
wickwirebut this weekend I managed to get Qt5 working, with X1117:29
wickwirebetter than nothing17:29
wickwireand now with your input,17:29
wickwireI will attempt Mer and ditch most of what I acan17:30
wickwireI also got a Cubieboard 2, with the A20 SoC but I think that there's still some additional work to be done for that one17:31
wickwirein order to reach the same status as the first model?17:31
wickwireanways thank you all for the help, most of all this has been a journey for me,17:32
wickwireI'm still grasping most concepts17:32
Superpelican_Stskeeps:Where are the porting Mer/Nemo pages on the wiki?17:33
Superpelican_can't find them anymore17:33
Superpelican_ah I've found them17:35
Superpelican_thanks to search17:35
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Superpelican_IMHO the Mer Wiki needs to be more logically structured17:36
Superpelican_I would be happy to help if it's wanted ;)17:36
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piggz_technical question .... a sailfishv application and view is created in one step with:18:00
piggz_QScopedPointer<QQuickView> view(Sailfish::createView("main.qml"));18:00
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piggz_but, this prevents setting a context property that is used on startup18:00
piggz_how can this be easily accomplished? split the view creation into 2 steps?18:00
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piggz_technical question .... a sailfishv application and view is created in one step with:18:17
piggz_QScopedPointer<QQuickView> view(Sailfish::createView("main.qml"));18:17
piggz_but, this prevents setting a context property that is used on startup18:17
Stskeeps.. repeating?18:17
piggz_Stskeeps: yeah, for the benefit of Sfiet_Konstantin joining18:18
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piggz_in days gone by, these were 2 steps, and you;d set the context property after creting the view, before setting the main qml file18:20
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin teached me that18:21
Superpelicannote it only works with the Alpha2 SDK18:21
Superpelicanaka Qt5/Wayland SDK18:21
piggz_cool, thats what i need .. tho, that looks a little messy18:22
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piggz_that doesnt quite work as it doesnt find main.qml ...18:30
piggz_sailfishapplication.cpp needs modified so that the conditions in setView and the same as in createView, for when deploying using the sdk18:30
Superpelicanpiggz_:Yes there was a bug18:31
Superpelicanin sailfishapplication.cpp18:31
piggz_yes, ive fixed it ;)18:31
SuperpelicanSfiet_Konstantin made a patch18:31
Superpelicanfor it18:31
Superpelicanpigg_:Are you on the ML?18:31
Superpelicanyou really should join it ;)18:31
piggz_no im not :)18:31
Superpelicanpiggz_:You should add .startsWith("/opt/sdk") somewhere18:31
SuperpelicanI don't remember where :(18:32
piggz_yes, ive done that and it works ;)18:32
Superpelicanok nice18:32
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miksuhnice that there is a new version of SDK20:09
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miksuhis it nesessary to manually uninstall the older version, or can the new installer handle it?20:10
Nicd-you need to uninstall it first20:11
Nicd-with the sdk maintenance tool20:11
miksuhokey thanks20:12
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piggz_the start of a sailfish ownCloud news reader
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zetazAny news of Opera for Sailfish ? As opera is one of the alliance members it seems :
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Zotanpiggz_:  brilliant!21:00
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piggz_Zotan: thx21:01
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piggz_item list view
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nahkaguys how should do attacments button in IM application22:06
nahkadont know how you can access pulley meny in  conservation view22:06
nahka*how should i22:07
nahkasorry about those typos, im little tired22:07
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zetaznahka: not sure if I understood : you want to add a pulley menu to a conversation view ?22:16
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nahkaif you are in convo view and want to access other options in that view22:18
nahkalike settings, sending files and other stuff22:18
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nahkaguidelines just tell you to use pulley menu for stuff like that22:19
specialnahka: a PushUpMenu is one option.. probably not the best one22:20
specialnahka: DockedPanel might also interest you. Or, you can use carefully placed buttons to expose those features. Or, you could put them on an attached page if that makes sense.22:21
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nahkaPushUpMenu is the one that you access from the bottom?22:23
specialnahka: out of interest, what're you working on?22:24
nahkaforgot that one22:24
nahkaclient for secure IM called Tox22:24
specialI've heard of it; awesome. Do you have a repository anywhere yet?22:25
nahkanot yet22:25
nahkaI am doing mockups tho22:25
specialI do messaging stuff for Jolla, so it's an interest of mine ;)22:26
zetaznakha: I am learning QML, and playing with webkit view. I am using PullDown menu for some tests, it looks good, but I don't really know how it makes the difference between scrolling down the view, and pulling down the menu (seems to be based on the speed of the gesture...)22:27
nahkanice :D22:27
specialzetaz: webkit view is a special case.. the component gallery Menus page is the best demonstration. You can only access the PDM from the top of the view, and the PUM from the bottom of the view22:29
nahkabut is there going to be way to access it from middle of the list22:30
nahkathis Tweetian twitter client looks amazing22:31
specialno, there's nothing to access it from the middle22:31
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zetazspecial: I agree. Why did my first try appeared to be the special case ? ;)22:34
zetazI'll continue to dig this tommorow, bye!22:36
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nahkaI hope 3rd party (or even the stock player) can access lock screen pulley menu, in a way of having "next song" and "play/pause" in there22:39
nahkachanging songs in pocket, would be so much easier to do!22:41
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Yanielwhich could be used as an argument to specifically not have that22:43
nahkayeah, but only to have that option when headphones are plugged in22:44
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