Tuesday, 2013-09-17

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DarkSimI wonder how much dough I can get for selling my One X endeavoru heh08:03
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biogwenhello everybody09:09
Stskeepzhewwo09:10
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biogwendo you know when it will be possible to pre order the jolla phone?09:13
Kiranossometime this week according to the new press release09:14
Kiranosbut we will have to see from where09:14
Kiranoswhich countries09:14
Kiranosit somewhat stated finland09:14
Kiranossoumi09:14
biogwenthey said "The first Jolla is targeted to begin shipping by the end of 2013, starting in Europe"09:16
Kiranosyea?09:16
Kiranoswhat do you mean09:16
Kiranos“Due to extremely positive feedback and increased demand in the past weeks, we are offering another pre-order opportunity for our second production batch later this week through jolla.com. This will be targeted to Finnish customers who want to express their passion for the Finnish mobile industry,”09:17
Kiranosthat is the latest on preorders09:17
biogwenso the next pre order will be only for finnish customers ;(09:18
biogwen:'(09:18
Kiranosthat remains to be seen09:19
KiranosI hope I can get one in from sweden :)09:19
biogwenand me in France09:19
Kiranoshopefully targeted does not mean exclusivly available for :)09:21
biogwenI hope so09:21
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Nicd-Soumi Fanlind10:09
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ericccSailfish browser.   where i  can  down?11:43
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Yanielericcc: you can't yet I think13:14
ericccmaybe   a  mounth later13:17
ericccmonth13:17
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WntAnyone here that could answer the SDK audio codec question seen on the mailinglist https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2013-September/000734.html ?14:05
WntI really would love to see QSpot running on Sailfish14:05
Yanielyou need to specifically enable audio playback in the vm settings14:06
Yaniel(emulator vm)14:06
stephgdon't really know what I'm talking about but I recall the VM does support playback14:06
stephgthere are various gstreamer plugins iirc14:06
Yanielthere are UI sounds in the silica component gallery14:06
Wntah, just read that "The sound is not enabled in the Emulator." from the known issues :)14:06
stephgas for the QT side, no idea,14:07
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WntThanks, suggested this to the developer!14:10
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DarkSimIs the Jolla phone equivalent to the Nexus 4 in specs?15:55
stephgdon't know yet15:59
stephgofficially15:59
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stephgit's reported to be dual core (believe the nexus 4 is quad), is reported to be 4G (Nexus 4 isn't)15:59
stephgsize, screen etc. will all likely be similar16:00
locusfthe specs are tto be released this week16:02
DarkSimI hope it's not weaker than the N416:05
DarkSimWould be cool to see how much faster it would be with the same specs16:05
DarkSimIF it's faster that is16:05
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DarkSimDang19:28
DarkSimI got a fishy fever19:28
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DarkSimCan I run Sailfish emulated on a desktop so I can see what it looks like for myself?19:29
Yanielthe SDK contains an emulator vm19:29
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DarkSimLet's see if I can get this working :)19:57
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DarkSim_There we go!20:09
DarkSim_Finally I can see it with my own two eyes20:09
DarkSim_Is it allowed to show SailFish to people?20:21
Nicd-of course!20:22
DarkSim_Like...if I make a short video demoing the little I can do with Sailfish in the emulator20:22
Nicd-the SDK is public after all20:22
DarkSim_Alright!20:22
Nicd-in fact, it would be greatly appreciated if you could spread the word20:22
DarkSim_I'm so excited20:22
DarkSim_Would love to share20:22
DarkSim_I wonder if I should shoot the video with or without the pointer visible though20:24
DarkSim_It might help showcase the actions performed, but the pointer is also plain ugly :D20:24
DarkSim_Also there is no...indicator when I "touch" the screen, that would be a good thing to implement20:25
DarkSim_Like a little ripple effect or color switch or anything20:25
Nicd-yeah20:26
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DarkSimSo..have Jolla brought Sailfish up to today's standards?22:12
DarkSimLike, they say they use MeeGo but that was apparently abandonded by Nokia, but that doesn't hurt it now, does it?22:12
DarkSimI mean, was there any reason MeeGo was dropped in the first place?22:13
GeneralAntillesNokia's board is full of dinosaurs22:13
GeneralAntillesand they decided to change direction to pick up massive bags of money from MS.22:13
Yaniel"brought up to todays standards"? it never was behind AFAIK, depending on the definition of "todays standards"22:14
DarkSimPoor choice of words22:14
Yanielit was a *new OS*22:14
Yanielto begin with22:14
DarkSimI meant that just because it's a old platform22:14
DarkSimThat the whole OS suffers from it22:14
DarkSimSorry I'm delirious22:15
YanielMeeGo wasn't old22:15
Yanielit wasn't given a chance22:15
YanielMaemo was old though, yes22:15
GeneralAntillesDarkSim, the whole "based on MeeGo" thing is more marketing than anything else22:15
GeneralAntillesbasically it seems to mean: real Linux, Qt.22:15
DarkSimI'm just thinking in the sense of regular Linux distros22:15
DarkSimwhere something can be a deriative and that can make it lag behind in updates22:16
GeneralAntillesNah, MeeGo is dead22:16
GeneralAntillesThere's no derivation from a living distro.22:17
DarkSimGee, Nokia went with Tizen?22:17
DarkSimOuch22:17
DarkSimNo wait, sorry, wikipedia is fooling me22:18
YanielNokia has been irrelevant since the first lumia22:18
Yanielunti then they were working on MeeGo Harmattan22:18
DarkSimNokia has been irrelevant since the 331022:18
DarkSimhehe22:18
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Yanielwell, from a MeeGo PoV22:19
DarkSimYeah I know, I'm just kidding22:19
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specialthe opensource parts of meego became mer and nemo, and sailfish is based on those22:20
specialbut all three have evolved a long way since the last thing you could call meego22:20
DarkSimIt's really cool22:21
DarkSimI hope Sailfish takes off22:21
DarkSimand if it could work more tightly with a Linux OS that could have cool features as well22:21
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YanielI guess pretty much everyone here hopes so22:21
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DarkSimThat is true :P22:27
DarkSimWonder what android app-compatibility really means22:28
DarkSimlike..can I install any apk? what will happen with certain apps that maybe change UI and such?22:28
GeneralAntillesSee: BB10 for a rough example22:28
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DarkSimBB10?22:28
Yanielblackberry22:29
GeneralAntillesBlackBerry 10 has an Android player.22:29
DarkSimOh22:29
DarkSimTime for bed, cya :)22:31
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