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| simanaama | ubuntu 13.04 and i'm using sailfishSDK | 05:23 |
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| ericcc | do you witre code for sailfish? | 05:45 |
| simanaama | yes i do | 05:45 |
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| simanaama | so i'm building and running for mer | 05:46 |
| ericcc | me too | 05:51 |
| ericcc | where are u from | 05:52 |
| simanaama | finland | 05:52 |
| ericcc | china | 05:55 |
| ericcc | are u work in jolla? | 05:55 |
| simanaama | nope i'm not | 05:56 |
| ericcc | i am win 7 64b and sdk is 32b | 05:56 |
| ericcc | which type do you desgin | 06:01 |
| simanaama | just a little training project | 06:06 |
| ericcc | study together | 06:41 |
| simanaama | okay i got it working | 06:42 |
| simanaama | the problem was that the emulator is missing /usr/lib/qt5/plugins/mediaservice folder and its content | 06:43 |
| simanaama | to add qt5-qtmultimedia to sailfish emulator do this: | 06:43 |
| simanaama | [nemo@SailfishEmul]$ sudo zypper in gstreamer* | 06:45 |
| simanaama | [nemo@SailfishEmul plugins]$ sudo zypper in qt5-qtmultimedia qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-mediaservice-gstmediaplayer | 06:45 |
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| ericcc | how about on win7? | 06:47 |
| simanaama | it's the same | 06:58 |
| simanaama | just ssh -p 2223 nemo@localhost | 06:58 |
| ericcc | nemo@localhos? | 06:59 |
| simanaama | https://sailfishos.org/develop-faq.html | 07:01 |
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| simanaama | How do I login into the emulator or build engine? | 07:02 |
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| ericcc | thank you | 07:36 |
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| simanaama | next question: how can i play mp3-files in emulator? i assume i need ffmpeg codecs but how can i install them ? or is there some other codecs that gstreamer can use for decoding audio/mpeg | 08:00 |
| Stskeeps | simanaama: i think you can get away with gst-av and libav | 08:02 |
| Stskeeps | not sure if those packages are in the sdk repositories or not | 08:02 |
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| Bloob | QAudioDeviceInfo::supportedCodecs() seems to return an empty list, is there really no audio codecs in the emulator or am I missing something? | 08:41 |
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| Stskeeps | that may be entirely right | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | though i'd expect to be able to play wav and ogg | 08:42 |
| Bloob | I've been having problems with playing a wav file, which why I came upon this in the first place :P | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | it might be that this is sorted in next sdk release | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | / update | 08:43 |
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| Bloob | yeah, let's hope so :) | 08:46 |
| Jonni | Bloob: and you have remembered to enable audio on virtual image as by default its disabled? | 08:54 |
| Bloob | nope | 08:54 |
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| Bloob | (actually seems I have at some point, but had forgotten about it) | 08:57 |
| Bloob | I don't think it should affect whether codecs are found or not | 08:58 |
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| simanaama | Stskeeps: okay, i'll try with those, thanks | 09:52 |
| simanaama | so if those packages are not in the SDK repos i have to build them from source in merSDK and then copy the builded binaries to sailfish emulator or so? | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | right | 09:54 |
| simanaama | yeah, thanks, i try | 09:54 |
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| simanaama | okay, i got libav compiled. What should i copy (the whole libav is 200mb) and where should i copy it? libavcodec folder to /usr/lib/ in emulator and thats it? | 10:15 |
| simanaama | sorry for my noobish questions :-) | 10:15 |
| artemma | Sent a message to a dev list about possibility of Silica controls port to Desktop/Android. Small hopes for somebody telling, sure, it's a very easy thing to do - Silica is 99% pure QML :) | 10:17 |
| spider-mario | would they have the same beautiful appearance as in Sailfish OS? | 10:18 |
| locusf | we in Glacier UX effort are also considering Silica compatibility | 10:18 |
| artemma | I laid out arguments in the email, but basically even if they will be just OK, that would already enable a lot of things | 10:19 |
| artemma | most notably super-fast desktop development (for mostly QML projects I am fancy for) and Android demos for ppl not having Jolla device | 10:20 |
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| ericcc | help? | 10:35 |
| ericcc | :-1: 错误:Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. Server rejected key. | 10:35 |
| ericcc | how to rebuild key? | 10:36 |
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| lbt | hey ericcc ... | 10:39 |
| lbt | from Options... Mer there is a "generate key" button. Does that help ? | 10:39 |
| ericcc | no user putty? | 10:40 |
| ericcc | use | 10:40 |
| ericcc | today i use puty build the key | 10:41 |
| lbt | ah, no | 10:41 |
| lbt | you can connect to ssh using putty but it's not 100% compatible | 10:42 |
| ericcc | did new key collision the old key | 10:42 |
| lbt | using the sdk's internal generate is best | 10:42 |
| lbt | then 'test connection' and see if you get Status: connected | 10:43 |
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| ericcc | yes now i generater the mer sdk and sailfishos sdk, so i can run .3q | 10:44 |
| lbt | (if you can manage it you may want to switch the SDK language to english whilst we debug this - Tools->options then Environment | 10:44 |
| lbt | is it working? | 10:44 |
| ericcc | yes working , now i want to ssh to mer.how can i do | 10:45 |
| ericcc | website havenot detail documnet | 10:46 |
| ericcc | uss putty? | 10:47 |
| lbt | sadly I don't know of any _easy_ instructions. It's supposed to work but putty is fussy (and honestly I think Qt generates slightly bad keys) | 10:48 |
| lbt | you could try this: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2013-April/000151.html | 10:49 |
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| lbt | if anyone knows how to get putty to use the SDK ssh key then please tell me and I'll get it up on the wiki | 10:53 |
| Yaniel | pageant? | 10:54 |
| lbt | ? | 10:54 |
| Yaniel | although I guess that is more like ssh-agent | 10:55 |
| locusf | one should be able to export/import a putty ssh key and then use it | 10:56 |
| lbt | locusf: *should* being the key word | 10:56 |
| locusf | yup | 10:56 |
| lbt | locusf: I was actually relying on that .. ya know... *working* :D | 10:57 |
| * artemma sort of surprised that ListItem doesn't use sensible margins/sizes by default | 10:57 | |
| lbt | it turns out Qt makes slightly dodgy keys | 10:57 |
| lbt | I think that's fixed - but not sure it's in the public SDK yet | 10:57 |
| lbt | maybe soon | 10:57 |
| artemma | or is the default list item margin just zero? | 10:59 |
| ericcc | i connect the emulater with ssh ,now which the root passwd? | 11:00 |
| Yaniel | don't connect as root | 11:00 |
| Yaniel | use the username nemo | 11:01 |
| Yaniel | with the password nemo | 11:01 |
| ericcc | thank you ,it is ok | 11:02 |
| ericcc | now use $ ssh -p 2223 nemo@localhost | 11:02 |
| ericcc | ?right? | 11:02 |
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| ericcc | ssh: connect to host localhost port 2223: Connection refused | 11:04 |
| Yaniel | it might not accept connections without the key | 11:06 |
| lbt | ericcc: https://sailfishos.org/develop-faq.html | 11:10 |
| lbt | so you need to do the equivalent using putty | 11:11 |
| lbt | I don't have a windows machine here so I can't look how | 11:11 |
| ericcc | thank you | 11:13 |
| Yaniel | booting my win7 | 11:15 |
| Yaniel | "this might take a while" | 11:16 |
| ericcc | :) thankyou Yaniel | 11:17 |
| ericcc | sudo zypper in gstreamer*, what is the gstramer? | 11:17 |
| artemma | ericcc: gstreamer is a *nix multimedia framework | 11:18 |
| artemma | so, say, audio-video codes could plug into common engines | 11:18 |
| artemma | codecs* | 11:18 |
| ericcc | so i play a multime app,must install gstreamer? | 11:19 |
| Yaniel | found the key thing in putty | 11:20 |
| artemma | I worked only a little with streamer and to me it looked like quite a low level stuff. Say if you want to build an efficient pipeline capturing camera video, recoloring it on the fly and then repackaging for a network, then gstreamer could be the right tool | 11:20 |
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| artemma | if you just want to say "play this video file", there might be easier higher level abstractions | 11:20 |
| artemma | though it's possible with gstreamer too | 11:21 |
| Yaniel | so on the left side of the putty window go to Connection->SSH->Auth | 11:21 |
| Yaniel | there is a box for selecting the private key file | 11:21 |
| artemma | I even remember there was some QML package with gstreamer interface so that you could have a QML control where you output video. A year ago it was sorta working | 11:21 |
| ericcc | private key file?where ?C:\SailfishOS\emulator\1\ssh\nemo\authorized_keys | 11:23 |
| ericcc | like this? | 11:23 |
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| artemma | I'd like to display one of the SilicaListView ListItems as selected (when opening a language selection dialog).. can't see a built-in way to display something as selected :/ | 11:24 |
| Yaniel | lbt: http://imagebin.org/274080 | 11:25 |
| artemma | ah, stupid me, a quick dive to source code shown undocumented highlighted property | 11:26 |
| Yaniel | ericcc: no not that one | 11:26 |
| lbt | Yaniel: does that work? I seem to recall that it needed importing/converting | 11:26 |
| lbt | and it was the import step that had issues | 11:27 |
| Yaniel | ...\SailfishOS\vmshare\ssh\private_keys\1\nemo | 11:27 |
| Yaniel | lbt: ah | 11:27 |
| ericcc | hoho so here | 11:30 |
| Yaniel | okay so open puttygen | 11:30 |
| Yaniel | there Conversions->import key | 11:30 |
| ericcc | two tools! | 11:30 |
| lbt | ericcc: you should switch to running debian on your laptop :D | 11:31 |
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| ericcc | sorry my work must use win7 | 11:33 |
| Yaniel | ericcc: they come in the same installer so is it that bad? | 11:34 |
| ericcc | it is my first use ssh | 11:37 |
| ericcc | so have some stupid problem | 11:38 |
| Yaniel | now let's see if this key conversion worked as it should... | 11:40 |
| Yaniel | yup works fien | 11:42 |
| Yaniel | (I made a key on my laptop, moved to windows, converted and used it to connect to the laptop) | 11:43 |
| Yaniel | so in puttygen Conversions->Import key | 11:43 |
| Yaniel | choose the private key file | 11:43 |
| Yaniel | then hit [Generate] | 11:43 |
| Yaniel | er | 11:44 |
| Yaniel | no | 11:44 |
| Yaniel | just [Save private key] | 11:44 |
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| Yaniel | then use that .ppk when connecting | 11:44 |
| ericcc | so cool | 11:45 |
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| ericcc | use the sailfish qtcraeate can not Import key | 11:46 |
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| ericcc | so must use puttygen?right? | 11:47 |
| Yaniel | ah so ´the problem is that qt creates bad keys that puttygen can't open? | 11:47 |
| ericcc | ah | 11:49 |
| Yaniel | lbt? | 11:49 |
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| ericcc | maybe he is working | 12:02 |
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| * lbt has been making coffee for his wife ... in return she'll tell you how to make putty work :) | 12:10 | |
| r3d | ericcc: Yaniel i'll run through the putty steps that work for me :-) | 12:12 |
| r3d | puttygen, conversion, import key | 12:13 |
| r3d | choose C:\SailfishOS\vmshare\ssh\private keys\engine\root | 12:13 |
| Yaniel | does it work with the nemo key? | 12:13 |
| r3d | it should do | 12:14 |
| r3d | i can boot into windows in a while and try it - i just need to restore it first | 12:15 |
| r3d | if you have a problem i'll try it | 12:15 |
| r3d | so the next step is to save the key as a .ppk file (careful not to overwrite the original key, i've done that once!) | 12:17 |
| r3d | next, open putty, Host name: 127.0.0.1; Port: 2222; SSH->Auth; Private key file: C:\Users\User\<yourfile>.ppk | 12:18 |
| Yaniel | that is not the emulator | 12:21 |
| ericcc | choose C:\SailfishOS\vmshare\ssh\private keys\engine\ =choose C:\SailfishOS\vmshare\ssh\private keys\engine\1 ???? | 12:27 |
| r3d | ericcc: yes, ../engine/1 is the emulator. also engine uses port 2222, emu;ator uses port 2223 | 12:29 |
| ericcc | hehe | 12:29 |
| lbt | don't laugh!!! I picked those ports :) | 12:32 |
| artemma | very serious looking ports to my taste | 12:32 |
| artemma | not like laughable 8080 | 12:32 |
| r3d | :-) | 12:34 |
| lbt | artemma: wait until you read the VM MAC addresses ... I tried... | 12:36 |
| artemma | don't know how to read it right away | 12:37 |
| lbt | we need septadecimal to get an 'H' though.... | 12:37 |
| lbt | octa... | 12:37 |
| artemma | I believe it's full of good humor though :) | 12:37 |
| lbt | I wanted 5A11F15H | 12:38 |
| artemma | that'd look cool | 12:38 |
| artemma | if H was in hex :) | 12:38 |
| Yaniel | 4 is almost as good as H | 12:39 |
| artemma | lbt: hey, if you worked on emulator, maybe you know about its development :) | 12:39 |
| artemma | there are some hardware features that I'd love to use and emulator, well, doesn't have them | 12:40 |
| lbt | a bit | 12:40 |
| lbt | such as? | 12:40 |
| artemma | most interesting: camera flash and simulation of connecting-disconnecting otherhalves | 12:40 |
| lbt | yeah - adding simulation of HW to emulation is something we have in the pipeline | 12:40 |
| artemma | would be cool to save-load and close-reopen app when user connects his private otherhalf instead of the work one | 12:40 |
| lbt | yes - I suggest you go play in #nemomobile for that ... sec | 12:41 |
| artemma | oh, it's possible there already? cool | 12:41 |
| lbt | https://github.com/nemomobile/statefs | 12:41 |
| artemma | I guess sailfish will use same apis | 12:42 |
| lbt | I don't know if that is being used for the things you mention though | 12:42 |
| lbt | and the ToH API isn't published yet either | 12:43 |
| artemma | ToH? | 12:43 |
| lbt | The Other Half | 12:43 |
| lbt | (essentially publishing it freezes it) | 12:43 |
| artemma | oh well, Alphas and Betas can exist for APIs too | 12:43 |
| artemma | I thought that's the Qt way even | 12:44 |
| lbt | yeah - I'd certainly ask about this on the ml | 12:44 |
| lbt | there's an SDK release in the oven right now | 12:44 |
| lbt | (I'm actually on another project so I'm not up-to-date with SDK progress) | 12:44 |
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| artemma | should do. I've sent there two mails today already, got to take a pause for having a chance for answers | 12:45 |
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| artemma | Okay now my wikipedia for sailfish has primitive runtime language switch | 13:05 |
| artemma | next step to make it storable permanently | 13:05 |
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| ericcc | luch time | 13:37 |
| ericcc | lunch | 13:37 |
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| simanaama | I'm trying to create a rpm package with merSDK so i can install the rpm in sailfish emulator. Is there any guides available on how to do this..? this seems to be down: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=sdk-kickstarter-configs&project=Mer%3ATools%3ATesting | 18:45 |
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| Jonni | simanaama: why not just use sailfish sdk, in there you can set deploy as rpm in run settings? | 19:30 |
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