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| artemma | New SDK: nothing provides qt5-qtdeclarative-systeminfo :/ | 06:05 |
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| artemma | So Requires: qt5-qtdeclarative-systeminfo is suddenly not good enough :/ | 06:06 |
| artemma | and another project has similar issues with another package (attest) | 06:06 |
| artemma | qttest* | 06:06 |
| artemma | anything change significantly in how RPM deployment is done? | 06:07 |
| dm8tbr | hmmm, do we have any sdk sailors here? | 06:08 |
| Stskeeps | yes but typically after 10 | 06:10 |
| dm8tbr | *nod* expected | 06:11 |
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| artemma | anybody knows about .spec files here? | 07:17 |
| artemma | or about Mer/Sailfish packages? | 07:17 |
| artemma | After New SDK was released, my apps fails to install packages to emulator :/ | 07:18 |
| artemma | e.g. Fatal error: nothing provides qt5-qtdeclarative-systeminfo needed by Wikipedia-0.1-1.i586 | 07:18 |
| artemma | that is from Requires: qt5-qtdeclarative-systeminfo | 07:18 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: yes | 07:27 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I have some small knowledge of spec | 07:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: one sec | 07:28 |
| artemma | good! | 07:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | damn, kernel update f**ked my virtualbox kmod | 07:29 |
| artemma | sorry for you | 07:31 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so that I cannot boot the SDK now | 07:31 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | please wait a bit | 07:31 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | back :) | 07:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: well, sorry for you, it seems that qt5-qtdeclarative-systeminfo is not available | 07:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :/ | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | it may have been renamed? | 07:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: searching for it | 07:41 |
| artemma | another project fails to Requires: qt5-qtdeclarative-qtquicktest | 07:41 |
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| artemma | was there some big grand renaming happening? | 07:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: yeah, the qt5-qtdeclarative-* stuff | 07:41 |
| artemma | Like maybe now it's sail-qt5-qtdeclarative-qtquicktest | 07:41 |
| Stskeeps | artemma: well, systeminfo was never a stable qt5 api.. :P | 07:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I wonder if there is something wrong being done | 07:41 |
| Stskeeps | i think | 07:41 |
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| artemma | me too :) | 07:42 |
| artemma | I just tried running projects working with the old sdk and they don't | 07:42 |
| artemma | hey, could you maybe create a HelloWorld app and then make it Requires: qt5-qtdeclarative-systeminfo | 07:42 |
| artemma | ? | 07:42 |
| artemma | with RPM deployment method certainly | 07:43 |
| artemma | That would validate whether the problem is in my setup | 07:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: RPM issue I guess | 07:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | package exists in emulator | 07:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | wonder where the issue is | 07:49 |
| artemma | maybe I fully delete SDK and reinstall from scratch.. | 07:50 |
| artemma | Can you try maybe just helloworld + that Requires line? | 07:50 |
| artemma | that would suggest that clean reinstall could help | 07:50 |
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| artemma | Or could somebody checkout and build on new SDK whole project? | 09:40 |
| artemma | https://github.com/amarchen/Wikipedia | 09:40 |
| artemma | just make sure you select RPM deployment | 09:41 |
| artemma | I'd verify if the problem is in my environment (RPM installation fails to install qtsysteminfo on new sdk for me) | 09:41 |
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| kaltsi | artemma: fails how? | 09:43 |
| artemma | yes | 09:43 |
| artemma | used to work just fine in old sdk | 09:43 |
| kaltsi | "how" :) | 09:43 |
| artemma | "nothing provides qt5-qtdeclarative-systeminfo " | 09:43 |
| artemma | during RPM deployment | 09:43 |
| artemma | So Requires: qt5-qtdeclarative-systeminfo is suddenly not good enough | 09:44 |
| kaltsi | could you login to the emulator as root and run zypper refresh and try again | 09:44 |
| artemma | I don't want to unless I have to | 09:44 |
| kaltsi | you have to | 09:44 |
| artemma | users will never do it | 09:44 |
| artemma | I can do it for debugging, but then if I install stuff manually, I'll need to reinstall SDK to try from end user point of view again | 09:45 |
| artemma | ah.. zipper refresh, so if it's db fails | 09:45 |
| artemma | zypper* | 09:45 |
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| kaltsi | it's an unfortunate case but it is necessary to refresh the emulator repos | 09:46 |
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| kaltsi | the emulator shipped with this latest alpha release does not autorefresh, which is an omission and which will be fixed | 09:48 |
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| artemma | kaltsi: zypper refresh didn't help | 10:10 |
| artemma | still nothing provides qt5-qtdeclarative-systeminfo needed by Wikipedia-0.1-1.i586 | 10:10 |
| artemma | and here's what zipper refresh replied: | 10:10 |
| artemma | nothing provides qt5-qtdeclarative-systeminfo needed by Wikipedia-0.1-1.i586 | 10:10 |
| artemma | sorry | 10:10 |
| artemma | Asennuslähteiden päivittämiseen vaaditaan pääkäyttäjän oikeudet. | 10:10 |
| artemma | looks like it did refresh if I get Finnish correctly | 10:11 |
| Yaniel | it didn't | 10:11 |
| Yaniel | "you need root privileges for refreshing installation sources" | 10:11 |
| Jonni | zypper refresh needs to be runned as root | 10:16 |
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| kaltsi | the reason or this problem is that we used to use zypper to deploy the packages and zypper would first refresh the repository, but pkcon does not do that | 10:37 |
| Yaniel | why did you change it? | 10:38 |
| kaltsi | because packagekit handles patterns better than zypper | 10:38 |
| kaltsi | pkcon = packagekit | 10:39 |
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| kaltsi | that may not be the only reason, I remember hearing that packagekit would allow/can be configured to install packages also as user and not only as root .. but I don't know that for sure | 10:40 |
| Yaniel | okay | 10:41 |
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| artemma | kaltsi: under sudo it really got refreshed and everything works! Thanks a lot! | 11:22 |
| kaltsi | artemma: yw, good to hear! | 11:29 |
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| rollersmb | heya | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | lo | 12:12 |
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| rollersmb | just about to update my sailfish sdk to latest version from website.. is it safe to use normal qt creator update manager, or should i uninstall/reinstall? (windows machine) | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | jake9xx might know | 12:13 |
| rollersmb | just ran the updater, looks like i've got 0.0.8-1 installed, fwiw. all good, will just run updater, and if it wigs out will uninstall reinsatll then :P | 12:16 |
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| ericcc | how can see the sailfishos version?update after | 12:24 |
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| kaltsi | ericcc: you could check in qt creator menu Help/About Qt Creator .. check that it says: From revision 88f905a914 | 12:43 |
| ericcc | 12:05:30 aug 1 2013 | 12:44 |
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| kaltsi | that is old.. new installer was released this week, you can download it from www.sailfishos.org | 12:53 |
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| artemma | At work I do quite some messing with web server, typically at http://localhost:8080 Imagine my amusement seeing sailfish SDK there :) | 13:24 |
| artemma | that was.. ah, I didn't stop Mer SDK :) | 13:24 |
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| ericcc | localhost:8080 it look like tomcat | 13:28 |
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| artemma | yep | 13:34 |
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| artemma | Hmm, QtCreator Run dialog fails to figure remote runner for my tests subproject | 15:41 |
| artemma | executable on device: remote path not set | 15:41 |
| artemma | worked fine in the pref SDK | 15:41 |
| artemma | prev* | 15:41 |
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| artemma | could it be related to that I have no .yaml file (that won't work with subpakages anyway)? | 15:42 |
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| artemma | TARGET is set, tried setting TEMPLATE=app now, didn't help | 15:43 |
| artemma | and QtC doesn't even let me set custom executable, only shows "don't know what to run" :/ | 15:44 |
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| artemma | maybe I just need to kill old .user and reimport.. | 15:45 |
| artemma | hmm. If I "deploy by copying binaries", QtC correctly figures out which binary to run | 15:47 |
| artemma | but if I choose deploy as rpm package, suddenly it "doesn't know what to run". How is it possible? | 15:47 |
| artemma | some .spec field needs to be set? | 15:48 |
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| locusf | where does the deployed spec file get listed in Sailfish SDK? | 15:51 |
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| locusf | deployed rpm I meant | 15:55 |
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| locusf | Sailfish running on N9 http://youtu.be/jr_yQwTUv3s | 16:05 |
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| spreadsheet | hello | 16:58 |
| locusf | btw this is SDK version of sailfish, just FYI | 16:58 |
| spreadsheet | so I see that sailfish OS has its own SDK, which looks like it's based off Qt (forgive if I'm wrong) | 16:58 |
| spreadsheet | or at least, it has a native SDK | 16:58 |
| spreadsheet | but it seems that I can also use HTML5. | 17:00 |
| spreadsheet | so if I make an HTML5 version of a mobile game, do I have to port it to each of the smaller platforms individually, or should there be little to no porting? | 17:00 |
| spreadsheet | by smaller platforms, I'm referring to tizen, ubuntu touch, firefox os | 17:01 |
| dm8tbr | depends on which APIs you use etc | 17:03 |
| Nicd- | I'd like clarifications what HTML5 means too, is it just the browser or is there actually support for HTML5 "native" apps | 17:05 |
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| mhall119 | so there are two similar but different things that can be meant by "HTML5 app" | 17:22 |
| mhall119 | it can be just HTML5, using standard APIs and markup that will work in any browser on any OS | 17:22 |
| mhall119 | those would require little to no porting | 17:22 |
| mhall119 | but then you also have "native" HTML5 apps that can access things like the device camera, accelerometer, contacts, etc, for those there is no one "standard" API, but several | 17:23 |
| mhall119 | FFOS has their own, Ubuntu Touch uses Apache Cordova, which is the same as PhoneGap's API, I don't know what Tizen or SailfishOS use | 17:23 |
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| fk_lx | mhall119: well I've seen somewhere that Sailfish will handle Firefox OS API | 17:34 |
| fk_lx | mhall119: https://sailfishos.org/about-technology.html | 17:36 |
| mhall119 | thanks fk_lx | 17:36 |
| fk_lx | "Web development tools like HTML, JavaScript and CSS can be used to utilize HTML5 on the Sailfish OS. We are investigating Cordova Qt and compatibility with Firefox OS APIs for this purpose." | 17:36 |
| mhall119 | ok, so they're looking at both | 17:36 |
| fk_lx | mhall119: ok so Jolla is investigating ;-) | 17:36 |
| fk_lx | mhall119: btw. greeting to Ubuntu Touch team | 17:36 |
| fk_lx | *greetings | 17:36 |
| mhall119 | thanks :) | 17:36 |
| fk_lx | mhall119: seen this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZMQ6minduU | 17:37 |
| mhall119 | fk_lx: saw the link, haven't watched it yet | 17:37 |
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| mhall119 | that guy's brilliant | 17:38 |
| mhall119 | love working with him | 17:38 |
| fk_lx | mhall119: I know him from Polish Linux Users Group :-) | 17:38 |
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| fk_lx | mhall119: he's my friend | 17:38 |
| mhall119 | mine too! :) | 17:38 |
| fk_lx | :-D | 17:38 |
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| fk_lx | mhall119: but my most favourite new mobile OS is Sailfish ;-) | 17:41 |
| fk_lx | mhall119: but looking forward to Canonical efforts | 17:41 |
| fk_lx | mhall119: in the mobile area | 17:42 |
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| mhall119 | I have high hopes for both | 17:46 |
| fk_lx | :-) | 17:46 |
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