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| shmerl | MSameer: Hi! | 01:19 |
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| MSameer | shmerl: hello! | 01:19 |
| shmerl | I'll probably work on adding libopus sometime on Sunday, or next week. | 01:20 |
| MSameer | that would be great :) | 01:20 |
| shmerl | Are there any concerns about adding VPx? | 01:20 |
| shmerl | Or just no one did it? | 01:20 |
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| joj | I'm interested in the Jolla phone which runs Sailfish; however, I can't find any descriptive information on the status of a Japanese input method for Sailfish on sailfish.org which would be essential for me. Can someone point me to the most relevant resource if it exists; or can Android keyboards/input methods run without problems on Sailfish like Google Japanese Input, Simeji et al.? | 04:30 |
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| crevetor | Guys, how do I put my apps settings in the settings application ? | 05:59 |
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| crevetor | Are there Icon design guidelines somewhere ? | 06:51 |
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| Morpog_N9 | crevetor, none yet | 07:01 |
| Morpog_N9 | but you can use my icon templates | 07:01 |
| crevetor | Where are they ? | 07:01 |
| Morpog_N9 | github.com/morpog/jolla-icon-shapes | 07:04 |
| Morpog_N9 | sorry was on phone | 07:04 |
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| crevetor | No problem | 07:05 |
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| Morpog_N9 | just change the gradient colors to your likeing | 07:07 |
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| crevetor | They didn't release anything as to what the different shape/colors mean ? | 07:08 |
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| Morpog_N9 | nope | 07:11 |
| Morpog_N9 | not yet | 07:11 |
| Morpog_N9 | maybe no logic behind iz | 07:12 |
| Morpog_N9 | it | 07:12 |
| crevetor | Maybe... | 07:14 |
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| jardous | Hello guys. I am trying to port my QML game to Sailfish, but having problems with Image and loading SVG format. QML Image object raises "Invalid image data" error for all SVG images loaded | 07:44 |
| veskuh | Adding qt5-qtsvg-plugin-imageformat-svg in Requires section of .yaml and then deploying as .rpm should help | 07:45 |
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| jardous | veskuh: waw - works! Thanks a lot! | 07:50 |
| veskuh | cool | 07:51 |
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| jardous | how do I force landscape screen orientation? | 08:33 |
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| dm8tbr | jardous: I think there is an attribute that you can set for your app. Don't remember details, sorry. | 08:40 |
| Nicd- | could maybe look at fingerterm sources | 08:40 |
| Nicd- | it at least has a landscape-portrait lock in the settings, I'll check if it works | 08:41 |
| Nicd- | yep, seems to work | 08:41 |
| jardous | is it part of the Sailfish SDK? | 08:41 |
| veskuh | jardous, if you are having a silica app then applicationWindow's allowedOrientations property | 08:41 |
| veskuh | jardous, Orientation.Landscape | 08:42 |
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| jardous | veskuh: yep - found that already | 08:42 |
| veskuh | jardous, if you have "plain" QML then just rotate root item 90 digrees | 08:42 |
| Yaniel | btw does fingerterm work in landscape mode yet? | 08:44 |
| veskuh | Yaniel, yes | 08:45 |
| Yaniel | great | 08:45 |
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| leinir | hmm... isn't that part of qt quick 2 as well? the orientation stuff? | 08:48 |
| Yaniel | it would be weird if not | 08:48 |
| leinir | yeah http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qml-qtquick-window2-screen.html | 08:48 |
| leinir | hmm... not that, that's read only :P | 08:49 |
| Yaniel | (just wondering since stock apps etc apparently don't rotate) | 08:49 |
| fk_lx | hi all :-) | 08:49 |
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| crevetor | Are QtLocation and QtPositioning part of the official on-device distribution ? | 09:03 |
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| nodevel | Hey! I have a problem while developing for Sailfish (QML). Has anyone managed to put a ComboBox in a Row? It just doesn't work - completely messes up the layout. | 09:27 |
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| TheBootroo | nodevel: sureley the combo sets some anchors or so, you need to overwrite it to make it work inside a positioner | 09:45 |
| nodevel | TheBootroo: thanks, i feared so. i'll see if i can rewrite it while keeping all the functionality and Silica look | 09:48 |
| TheBootroo | nodevel: overwrite, no rewrite | 09:48 |
| TheBootroo | just modify some properties like anchors or width | 09:48 |
| nodevel | well, i don't think that'll work | 09:49 |
| TheBootroo | trust me, i'm kinda QML guru here ;-) | 09:49 |
| * TheBootroo is lauching sdk to check ComboBox code | 09:49 | |
| nodevel | ok, thx :) | 09:50 |
| TheBootroo | nodevel: it has width: parent ? parent.width : 0 | 09:51 |
| sharpneli | Stskeeps: Would it be possible for you to send your version of libllvm-arm.so to me so I could test if the addition would fix the Ocl CPU problem? I have 2 versions of it from qualcomm dev network (how I even found out it was needed) but they are almost certainly too old (from april and may, yours is from june) | 09:51 |
| TheBootroo | so it will always take the max width of the row, which is already bad, obviously it's not alone in Row, and ever more, if your row doesn't have a width set, it'll ruin | 09:51 |
| TheBootroo | nodevel: try just setting Row's width: parent.width; and then Combo's width: parent.width - 100; just to test | 09:52 |
| nodevel | TheBootroo: will try, thank you | 09:53 |
| TheBootroo | then if it has better look, use simple math binding to calculate optimal width for combo using parent.width - otheriteminrow.width - yetanother.width - parent.spacing * (nbofiteminrow -1) | 09:53 |
| TheBootroo | ;-) | 09:53 |
| Stskeeps | sharpneli: i don't have one handy, sorry, but it's being taken care of | 09:53 |
| TheBootroo | nodevel: there is no reason it shouldn work | 09:54 |
| nodevel | TheBootroo: it works! thank you! I thought by overwriting you meant things like anchors.top which should not be set inside column/row at all. i'm glad it's not the case of ComboBox | 09:55 |
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| TheBootroo | nodevel: you're welcome | 09:55 |
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| alci | Still unable to complete my order, although I pre-order on 20/05/2013... My ticket at care@jolla.com has status "This request is awaiting assignment to a support agent" for 72 hours now... I want to order before 2 dec... | 10:43 |
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| jukkaeklund | alci, you can email again care and emails will be sent out later on the payment details so shouldn't be nothing wrong there | 10:47 |
| alci | jukkaeklund, what do you mean ? I had a mail telling me : you will receive instructions to complete order in a second mail, but you must order before 2 december to get delivery this year. | 10:49 |
| jukkaeklund | alci, it is not 2nd dec yet? | 10:49 |
| alci | But I don't get any second mail. I want to benefit from my early pre-order and get my Jolla. Please take my money ! | 10:49 |
| alci | jukkaeklund : sure it's not yet, but I was under the impression instructions were sent in priority order. Poealple that preordered much later did receive the instructions. | 10:50 |
| alci | jukkaeklund: also consider week-end is coming, and I won't be online all time. I don't want to miss the opportunity. But if this is expected, fine... I just need to be informed. | 10:51 |
| jukkaeklund | alci, I hope care can answer you if you have any issues. | 10:52 |
| alci | So do I :-) | 10:52 |
| TheBootroo | jukkaeklund: are shipping started for other country that finland ? (france ???) | 11:00 |
| TheBootroo | are you authorized to tell me which service is used for shipping in france ? | 11:01 |
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| TheBootroo | is that UPS International ? DHL express maybe ? | 11:01 |
| jukkaeklund | TheBootroo, I won't start commenting here on those issues - trust that the folks are doing the best they can. | 11:01 |
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| TheBootroo | jukkaeklund: yeah but the asked questino stayed unanswered atm | 11:02 |
| Yaniel | TheBootroo: I'm in Finland and haven't heard anything about shipping yet either.. | 11:02 |
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| TheBootroo | and jolla said : 3-4 weeks to get delivered, so if it doesn't go faster, we won't have it in time for christmas, despite having preordered it really early | 11:02 |
| leinir | TheBootroo: because they are busy actually getting the work done :P | 11:03 |
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| * leinir throws a dictionary with only the word patience at TheBootroo ;) | 11:03 | |
| saildev | how i'm able to ssh into the device from linux? | 11:03 |
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| TheBootroo | Yaniel: that's what is disturbing, not a single guy yet has reported status change on order, and though jolla announced on twitter 'shipping has started' | 11:03 |
| Yaniel | saildev: http://elinux.org/Jolla | 11:03 |
| saildev | thanks.. :) | 11:04 |
| Eztran | That page is really coming in handy, even if it's not even semi-official yet | 11:05 |
| jukkaeklund | TheBootroo, give Jolla trust - even if you don't updates it doesn't mean nothing is happening | 11:05 |
| TheBootroo | jukkaeklund: i guess you're right | 11:05 |
| TheBootroo | you're in the pantheon, in the secret of gods, you must know | 11:06 |
| jukkaeklund | I don't know about that but I know the people and trust they do their best | 11:06 |
| TheBootroo | but the poor human i am is still eager to see something moving | 11:06 |
| jukkaeklund | in Finland there is a risk that post goes to strike | 11:07 |
| stephg | ^ yikes didn't know that :( | 11:07 |
| jukkaeklund | it affects only Finland of course if it happens | 11:08 |
| leinir | got friends in Finland who are rather distraught by that, due to another product which is going on sale in the EU today... | 11:09 |
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| saildev | i still don't get it... gosh, never done this before. *blushing* | 11:13 |
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| saildev | i try with "ssh root@[IP]" and asks for password but doesn't work | 11:21 |
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| saildev | and i assume the password is the same which is set in dev.mode settings? | 11:21 |
| sharpneli | try ssh nemo@IP | 11:21 |
| leinir | try nemo | 11:21 |
| leinir | that ;) | 11:21 |
| leinir | and then once you're there, devel-su will take that password as well, and elevate you to root | 11:21 |
| sremes | how do you install software from repos with pkcon, it keeps asking for some authentication? | 11:22 |
| kaltsi | asks how? | 11:22 |
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| kaltsi | but basic command is: pkcon install packagename | 11:23 |
| sremes | well, I guess the question was more about, where do you register for an account/authentication? | 11:24 |
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| kaltsi | in which environment are you experiencing this now? | 11:24 |
| kaltsi | real device, emulator? | 11:24 |
| sremes | jolla phone | 11:25 |
| kaltsi | what's the exact message you're seeing.. I assume you have configured your jolla account since you can use pkcon on the jolla phone.. no other account/auth should be required or needed | 11:25 |
| leinir | also, where are you doing it? | 11:26 |
| leinir | as in, have you done a devel-su to become root, or are you doing this as the normal user? | 11:26 |
| sremes | when trying to install e.g. vim in terminal (devel-su elevated), I get "Fatal error: Authentication failed (is SSU set up correctly?)" | 11:27 |
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| kaltsi | leinir: pkcon works as normal user | 11:27 |
| leinir | kaltsi: ah, right | 11:27 |
| kaltsi | sremes: hm that should work, but can you try also as nemo user | 11:27 |
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| sremes | as nemo user, it gives also the same message | 11:29 |
| saildev | is there a way to check whether my rpm works or not? in ssh | 11:34 |
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| saildev | because when i try to install it it won't let me so how do i know what's wrong with it? | 11:35 |
| saildev | and by the way, thanks for the nemo tip.. it worked ;) | 11:35 |
| tj____ | sremes, i just had the same problem and it was discussed on #jollamobile | 11:38 |
| kaltsi | saildev: what won't let you install? | 11:39 |
| saildev | my application.. | 11:39 |
| kaltsi | saildev: if you have a standalone rpm file, you can install it with pkcon if you first copy it to the device: pkcon install-local filename.rpm | 11:39 |
| tj____ | ssu domain sales ; reboot and then pkcon refresh | 11:39 |
| saildev | yes, it's in the device already... but i was looking for that command! thank you ;) | 11:39 |
| kaltsi | :) | 11:39 |
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| tortoisedoc | any date for the RC of the SDK yet? | 11:40 |
| saildev | okay, so it gives me this: "Fatal error: Authentication failed (is SSU et up correctly?)" | 11:41 |
| sremes | tj____: yes, it was the ssu domain issue, got help from kaltsi | 11:41 |
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| saildev | wait, are you talking about the same issue here? | 11:42 |
| tj____ | saildev, probably | 11:43 |
| tj____ | Aard, i guess the ssu problem is now reproduced by 3 people ;) | 11:44 |
| veskuh | the device has also regular rpm. just devel-su for root and then rpm -i package.rpm | 11:44 |
| saildev | there is a SSU section in dev.mode settings.. is that it? | 11:45 |
| saildev | oh, okay.. | 11:45 |
| Aard | tj____: ok. I'll fix it in the update. don't put stuff there, you'll get credentials when we have beta releases for developers to play with ;) | 11:45 |
| saildev | thanks veskuh. :) | 11:45 |
| kaltsi | saildev: please do "ssu domain sales" on the command line then pkcon will work again | 11:46 |
| saildev | ah, excellent! rpm -i didn't work but what kaltsi said did work.. thank you very much! :) | 11:48 |
| kaltsi | yw :) | 11:49 |
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| saildev | okay, then i have one issue.. | 12:00 |
| saildev | when i sent my application to harbour they had to refuse it because i didn't use a correct path for my application icon.. they said it was 90x90 but it's suppose to be 86x86 (and no, not talking about the size but the path) | 12:00 |
| saildev | so how do i actually save it there? i changed the path in my .yaml file but now it just says that it can not find it | 12:01 |
| saildev | i assume i have to force it there somehow? | 12:01 |
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| kaltsi | the sdk lags behind unfortunately.. which sucks, but we're working on it | 12:02 |
| kaltsi | you will need to ssh to the build virtual machine and edit a file there to get it working | 12:02 |
| tortoisedoc | kaltsi: can you confirm packtes on real devices === these of the sdk? | 12:03 |
| saildev | okay.. can you advice me a little bit? | 12:03 |
| kaltsi | if you want to do it, let me know once you've ssh'd to the build machine? | 12:03 |
| kaltsi | tortoisedoc: sdk lags behind right now.. we're updating it to device level soon | 12:04 |
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| kaltsi | saildev: which host machine do you have.. linux, mac, windows? | 12:04 |
| saildev | linux (mint) | 12:04 |
| kaltsi | saildev: ssh 127.0.0.1 -p 2222 -i ~/SailfishOS/vmshare/ssh/private_keys/engine/mersdk -l mersdk | 12:04 |
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| kaltsi | ~/SailfishOS is where you installed it.. that's the default path | 12:05 |
| kaltsi | it = sdk | 12:05 |
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| saildev | okay, that's done.. | 12:06 |
| kaltsi | then let's go and edit the file.. | 12:06 |
| kaltsi | first: | 12:06 |
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| kaltsi | sb2 -t SailfishOS-armv7hl -R -m sdk-install | 12:06 |
| kaltsi | that will open an sb2 shell in the arm target as root (-R) and install mode (-m sdk-install) | 12:06 |
| kaltsi | once you're there, edit the file: vim /usr/share/qt5/mkspecs/features/sailfishapp.prf | 12:07 |
| kaltsi | there should be icon.path | 12:07 |
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| saildev | and 90x90 to 86x86? | 12:08 |
| kaltsi | yes | 12:08 |
| kaltsi | then save that, and exit from the sb2 shell | 12:08 |
| kaltsi | you can do the same for the i486 target.. but then the sb2 command is | 12:09 |
| kaltsi | sb2 -t SailfishOS-i486-x86 -R -m sdk-install | 12:09 |
| kaltsi | but you are submitting arm packages, so that's more important for store | 12:09 |
| saildev | yeah, true that.. | 12:10 |
| saildev | silly question, how do i save this? i've only used gedit and others but never vim | 12:11 |
| kaltsi | were you able to edit it? | 12:11 |
| saildev | yes | 12:11 |
| kaltsi | if you are in edit mode then press: ESC :wq ENTER | 12:11 |
| saildev | nice one | 12:12 |
| kaltsi | easy! :) | 12:12 |
| saildev | and i don't have to do it again? :) | 12:12 |
| saildev | yes it is.. if I'd have know it :D but it doesn't say anything like this anywhere | 12:12 |
| kaltsi | only thing I know about vim is how to exit from it :) | 12:12 |
| * zuh whispers: install nano, it doesn't have silly modes ;) | 12:12 | |
| saildev | but i appreciate your effort :) | 12:12 |
| saildev | I will, zuh... I will ;) | 12:13 |
| kaltsi | saildev: yeah this situation is quite unfortunate, we weren't able to release an up-to-date SDK in time because of .. well there's just too few of us :) | 12:13 |
| saildev | yes, I know that one :) | 12:13 |
| saildev | and i don't blame you.. :) | 12:13 |
| saildev | that's why we have IRC and other ways to communicate to get the best support | 12:14 |
| saildev | and help, of course | 12:14 |
| kaltsi | but anyways.. after you've done all that, exit until you're back in your host and let's hope the 86x86 works now | 12:14 |
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| kaltsi | saildev: oh one more thing I forgot.. if you are building first for the emulator and then want to create the arm package.. be sure to clean the build in between.. (select Build -> Clean Project "projectname") from the menu | 12:28 |
| saildev | yup, I know that one already. ;) | 12:28 |
| saildev | but thanks anyways | 12:28 |
| kaltsi | ok.. next sdk will have "shadow building" which builds i486 and arm in different dirs | 12:28 |
| kaltsi | shadow building.. a qt creator term, sounds mysterious :) | 12:29 |
| saildev | that'll help a lot :) | 12:30 |
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| tortoisedoc | kaltsi : shadow bulding is indeed mystirious | 12:34 |
| tortoisedoc | but it works very well | 12:35 |
| tortoisedoc | (luckily :) ) | 12:35 |
| kaltsi | hehe | 12:35 |
| timoph | is not using the default main function supported? | 12:36 |
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| tortoisedoc | kaltsi : any eta for the next sdk release? | 12:36 |
| timoph | as in adding context properties, image providers, etc. | 12:36 |
| timoph | can't seem to get it to work | 12:37 |
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| kaltsi | tortoisedoc: I can't promise anything, that will get broken anyways.. but not this month (ends tomorrow) :) | 12:37 |
| kaltsi | I strongly hope we get it out within a week or two | 12:38 |
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| tortoisedoc | kaltsi : no need to promise, just vague dates are more than enough :P | 12:44 |
| tortoisedoc | personally I am not in a hurry with it | 12:44 |
| tortoisedoc | at least not until JStore has proper paid apps support... | 12:44 |
| narchie | jstore.. | 12:44 |
| tortoisedoc | same pattern than jphone :P | 12:44 |
| narchie | please no | 12:45 |
| narchie | jboss | 12:45 |
| tortoisedoc | :D | 12:45 |
| narchie | jboss | 12:45 |
| narchie | trigger warning | 12:45 |
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| ajalkane | timoph: should work | 12:46 |
| timoph | hmm | 12:46 |
| timoph | I think my problem is setting the source to the view | 12:46 |
| ajalkane | timoph: very simple example of adding contextProperty: https://github.com/ajalkane/datediffcalculator/blob/master/src/main.cpp | 12:46 |
| timoph | thanks. got it to work | 12:52 |
| timoph | as I guessed it, the problem was with the path | 12:52 |
| leinir | hey, is there any way of linking to stuff in the store? | 12:57 |
| tortoisedoc | hmm | 12:59 |
| tortoisedoc | android pass application is not working | 12:59 |
| tortoisedoc | (nfc reader) | 13:00 |
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| saildev | alright, i have one issue.. i think | 13:10 |
| saildev | i am able to install my app via pkcon install-local but if i first send it to my dropbox, i download it from there and i try to install it from transfers page (obviously by clicking on it?) it does nothing.. | 13:11 |
| saildev | so is this is a problem that if i send it to the store it won't work? | 13:11 |
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| Nicd- | if my app has a settings page, should it be accessible from the app or from Settings -> Apps -> MyApp? | 13:15 |
| Jonni | Nicd-: no | 13:18 |
| Nicd- | err | 13:18 |
| Nicd- | so no to which one? :) | 13:19 |
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| Jonni | Nicd-: to "should it be accessible" | 13:19 |
| Nicd- | um | 13:19 |
| Nicd- | so I should have a settings page that's not accessible from anywhere? | 13:19 |
| Jonni | or did you have multiple questions? | 13:19 |
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| Jonni | your settings page can be for example accesple from your applications pulldown menu | 13:20 |
| lbt | the settings builtin doesn't allow 3rd party settings yet | 13:20 |
| Nicd- | it's one question :D "should it be accessible from A or B?" | 13:20 |
| Nicd- | lbt: ok, thanks | 13:20 |
| Jonni | ah, I read wrong, answer would be "app" | 13:21 |
| Jonni | my crosseyes | 13:21 |
| lbt | Jonni: 2 day hangover ... really? :D | 13:21 |
| Nicd- | well you made me laugh :D | 13:21 |
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| TheBootroo | help | 13:22 |
| TheBootroo | my app got rejected one more time | 13:22 |
| TheBootroo | and message i got was totally weird | 13:22 |
| TheBootroo | http://pastebin.com/jCtN0Ryx | 13:22 |
| Jonni | TheBootroo: what kind of application it is? | 13:23 |
| kaltsi | saildev: installing rpms from the transferui is not there yet | 13:23 |
| TheBootroo | Jonni: self-service bike sharing app | 13:23 |
| saildev | ah, okay | 13:23 |
| TheBootroo | Jonni: https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/harbour-image-upload/screenshots/52915908afcec66e7c0000d9/6ca52520-560e-11e3-82f1-7b875a58cbd0.png | 13:24 |
| saildev | so basically when i'm able to install it via pkcon install-local it should work when i send it to the store, right? | 13:24 |
| Frye | Type FirstPage unavailable | 13:24 |
| Frye | initialPage: FirstPage { } | 13:24 |
| Frye | \o/ | 13:24 |
| kaltsi | saildev: in general yes | 13:24 |
| lbt | TheBootroo: it should go into a more 'suspended' state when it is minimised - avoid cpu use to manage power use | 13:25 |
| saildev | okay, i'll give it a try then because this seems to be working now - at least on my Jolla. :D | 13:25 |
| Frye | I'm really good in this. I get the porgram to fail before it even starts! | 13:25 |
| TheBootroo | lbt: i can't suspend my app, it needs to stay up-to-date as long as it's running | 13:25 |
| TheBootroo | sailfish is multitasked so no issue with that i hope | 13:25 |
| Frye | I do have FirstPage.qml in place | 13:26 |
| Frye | and it should be imported fine | 13:26 |
| Jonni | TheBootroo: how much cpu it takes when idle? | 13:26 |
| TheBootroo | Jonni: how could i know | 13:26 |
| lbt | I'm not familiar with the criteria - but that's what the message suggests. There's a difference between 'up' and running | 13:26 |
| TheBootroo | i dunno, | 13:26 |
| TheBootroo | but not much | 13:26 |
| Yaniel | profile! | 13:26 |
| TheBootroo | only thing it does is update json api to get count of free places/bikes on stations | 13:27 |
| lbt | TheBootroo: basically you should just be listen()ing or maybe have an occasional wakeup/poll (which doesn't trigger network) | 13:27 |
| TheBootroo | when app in on cover state, it has a time counter, so it's kept active | 13:27 |
| Jonni | that sounds like stupid reject reason, when it doesnt explain what is too much consumption. | 13:27 |
| TheBootroo | lbt: i'm forced to keep data up to date, else when user gets back into app, he will have outdated counters for a while | 13:28 |
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| TheBootroo | lbt: i just hope we are not going to be forced to do 'fake multitaskign' by putting apps in idle mode when they are not maximized.... | 13:30 |
| TheBootroo | that would be a treason to Nokia N9 legacy... | 13:30 |
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| TheBootroo | network call is only done 4times / minute | 13:30 |
| lbt | TheBootroo: no... but equally you should respect the user doing something else and not hog the cpu | 13:30 |
| sharpneli | I thought the whole point of active cover is to allow the app to run and display some data? | 13:30 |
| TheBootroo | lbt: i don't hog cpu by polling network 4 times a minute | 13:31 |
| sharpneli | But I also understand that an app like that shouldn't poll constantly | 13:31 |
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| * lbt agrees | 13:31 | |
| TheBootroo | sharpneli: if you're not using the app, close it. Period. | 13:31 |
| sharpneli | TheBootroo: Why not poll as soon as the user comes back to the app? | 13:31 |
| lbt | TheBootroo: polling is fine | 13:31 |
| TheBootroo | if you keep it open, it means you have a bike or you seek one, so you need up to date info. | 13:31 |
| lbt | I said "have an occasional wakeup/poll (which doesn't trigger network)" | 13:31 |
| sharpneli | Hmm. Is there any way to know if the screen is on? | 13:32 |
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| lbt | 15 seconds is occasional | 13:32 |
| sharpneli | TheBootroo: You could stop polling when the screen goes black and then poll when the user starts to interact with the device. Thus you wouldn't drain battery when the screen lock is on | 13:32 |
| lbt | but ... you should probably only poll if the network is actually up | 13:32 |
| TheBootroo | so you agree this rejection is kinda abusive | 13:32 |
| lbt | yes | 13:32 |
| Aard | TheBootroo: I'm just trying to reach the person rejecting your app to give a refresher on valid rejection reasons | 13:32 |
| lbt | well, too terse | 13:32 |
| sharpneli | And the data would be immediately available if the user wants to interact with you again | 13:32 |
| TheBootroo | lbt: in qml i can't really know if "network is up" | 13:33 |
| TheBootroo | unless i'm totally missing some new api... | 13:33 |
| lbt | TheBootroo: I thought we could | 13:33 |
| Yaniel | well that's something that should be there | 13:33 |
| TheBootroo | lbt: would need to expose QNetworkConfigurationManager from C+++ maybe, and watch isOnline () | 13:33 |
| Yaniel | as well as a signal telling the app that the screen was locked | 13:33 |
| TheBootroo | Yaniel: big +1 on screen lock | 13:34 |
| Yaniel | a lot of apps would probably benefit from knowing that | 13:34 |
| Aard | lpotter: ^^ your area, do we have a qml-api for network state available? ideally stable? :) | 13:34 |
| Yaniel | fingerterm comes to mind first :D | 13:34 |
| sharpneli | Yeah. Specially apps that would otherwise poll and thus needlessly drain battery | 13:34 |
| TheBootroo | afaik ApplicationWindow.applicationActive is just alias to Qt.application.isAtive | 13:34 |
| Yaniel | yep | 13:35 |
| Yaniel | and I can imagine "apps that would otherwise poll" covers about 75% of all apps we're going to see anytime soon | 13:35 |
| TheBootroo | lbt: i already recoded a big part of my app in C++ (tile caching, model, and settings) in order to make QML part lighter, and i don't think i can do any better ATM | 13:36 |
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| locusf | hmm I got some weird app review rejection in the harbour | 13:37 |
| TheBootroo | i'm not what we could call a beginner QML coder, neither an actually bad coder, so unless one can prove me my app slows down the phone or suck the battery, i want it approved | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | locusf: oh? | 13:37 |
| locusf | Reason for rejection: If you press the icon of the application in the Launcher each time formed "Active cover" in the Launcher. The correct behavior is as if the second time opens the application by clicking the icon, then the application should open with the current "Active cover". | 13:37 |
| lbt | and just a comment ... SailfishOS is properly multi-tasking and there's no desire to prevent that at all. SailfishOS also runs on battery powered devices and we want to push responsible power usage quite hard for store apps. | 13:37 |
| sharpneli | Yaniel: And due to that I kinda understand the Android&Apple decision to prevent multitasking. 3 apps that poll 4 times a minute will drain battery like no tomorrow. | 13:37 |
| Aard | TheBootroo: see above, I'm currently talking with the manager of the testhing team. | 13:37 |
| locusf | also: After selecting "Login" the keyboard doesn't display, the user have to zoom in the login page then appears keyborad. <- how do I do this in SilicaWebView | 13:37 |
| TheBootroo | lbt: i totally agree on that | 13:37 |
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| locusf | but I don't have no clue about that active cover being an issue | 13:38 |
| TheBootroo | lbt: i already disable a lot of timers and an animations on !Qt.application.active | 13:38 |
| locusf | Dorota Koczar reviewed it | 13:38 |
| lbt | TheBootroo: I strongly suspect a bad rejection - but please allow some time to investigate :) | 13:39 |
| TheBootroo | lbt: but as data update can take up to 10 secs on some data connection, i don't wan't the user to have bad info when he finnally get back in app to put he bike back | 13:39 |
| TheBootroo | lbt: ok | 13:39 |
| TheBootroo | i'll wait | 13:39 |
| Aard | TheBootroo: are you ignoring me? :p | 13:39 |
| TheBootroo | anyway, that's the only thing i can do | 13:39 |
| TheBootroo | Aard: nope, only didn't see your message | 13:40 |
| TheBootroo | sry | 13:40 |
| TheBootroo | i'm quite sick todaya nd my brain is running slow, my eyes are kinda foggy, not in my best shape i have to admit | 13:40 |
| TheBootroo | (weather is quite bad here in france, too humid and windy, so i got a very bad cold two days ago, still not gone) | 13:41 |
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| TheBootroo | Yaniel: afaik, profile doesn't work on SDK | 13:42 |
| sharpneli | If there are no guidelines/API's to enable responsible polling then these kind of issues will pop up in the future. | 13:43 |
| Yaniel | sharpneli: yep | 13:43 |
| Yaniel | over and over again | 13:43 |
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| TheBootroo | sharpneli: depending on app type, you can't always have 'low-power' mode : e.g a spotify app caching playlists offline won't stop or even slow-down downloading just because it's minimized, would be a very weird behavior | 13:44 |
| hoelzro | is there any documentation on how applications are secured from one another on SailfishOS? I was talking about Sailfish to my coworkers over lunch and this question came up | 13:45 |
| sharpneli | TheBootroo: Yeah. But after it's finished syncing it should sleep for a long time if the screen lock is on | 13:45 |
| TheBootroo | i'm even pretty sure there are cases where app should better do the polling stuff when NOT active, if it has a risk to slow down the user inside the app | 13:45 |
| locusf | Stskeeps: any ideas :) ? | 13:45 |
| Stskeeps | locusf: i'll let aard do his talking; but without knowing your app i cannot interpret it | 13:46 |
| sharpneli | TheBootroo: I don't mean when the app is on background and the phone screen is on. I mean the hours and hours phone is in the pocket and nothing is done with it | 13:46 |
| sharpneli | TheBootroo: In that case constant polling will demolish battery | 13:46 |
| locusf | Stskeeps: ok :) | 13:46 |
| locusf | thanks | 13:46 |
| TheBootroo | sharpneli: some apps just need to be closed if you don't use them at all | 13:46 |
| sharpneli | TheBootroo: Therefore there should be an API call to notify apps "Hey we're waking up. Get ready to rock!" | 13:46 |
| sharpneli | I'm talking about apps like weather widget etc | 13:47 |
| TheBootroo | sharpneli: remember you only have 9 slots in cover view, so no need to keep 30 apps open all the time | 13:47 |
| sharpneli | Yup | 13:47 |
| sharpneli | But I also don't want to close all the basic things like weather etc just to keep my battery alive, and then manually start them each time | 13:47 |
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| Aard | locusf: I might have missed your problem | 13:48 |
| TheBootroo | in fact the energy saving stuff is more important in services and deamon because they are always running and can't be closed | 13:48 |
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| lbt | locusf: sounds like a bug in the desktop settings ... but I am ignorant there | 13:49 |
| TheBootroo | iarc back in QtMobility days we had an enum value to check if screen is locked or not | 13:51 |
| TheBootroo | should have landed in QtSystemInfo module maybe | 13:51 |
| * TheBootroo checking | 13:51 | |
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| locusf | lbt: Aard: ok :) | 13:52 |
| TheBootroo | maybe in DeviceInfo.activatedLocks | 13:52 |
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| Jonni | TheBootroo: actual reason is that your app took 40% CPU when minimized or when screen is off. 200 wakeups a second. | 13:53 |
| Jonni | just asked from testers. | 13:53 |
| saildev | hey guys, when you download something with your device in which directory can I find them? | 13:53 |
| TheBootroo | Jonni: dafuq | 13:53 |
| TheBootroo | well maybe ApplicationWindow.applicationActive doesn't work | 13:53 |
| Frye | What am I missing. I have initialPage: FirstPage {} then I have the FirstPage.qml and I am importing the pages folder. | 13:53 |
| TheBootroo | and so my app doesn't stop animations when minimized | 13:53 |
| lbt | saildev: ~/Downloads | 13:54 |
| Frye | And when launching the app is complaining about Type FirstPage unavailable | 13:54 |
| * lbt is careful not to say "ssh in and check" :D | 13:54 | |
| Aard | TheBootroo: I'm just discussing with the testing team that they need to provide usage data they gathered during test leading to rejection in the reply to developers. so hopefully should not happen again | 13:55 |
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| saildev | oh, sorry.. my bad :D i had it open but couldn't see anything but then I noticed I plugged my phone off already.. heh ^^ | 13:56 |
| TheBootroo | Aard: i'm currently testing the applicationActive property on my sdk | 13:57 |
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| TheBootroo | erf sdk still not woring here | 13:58 |
| TheBootroo | is builds + create package but fails to deploy them to emulator and throwing a "Project ERROR: Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. Timeout waiting for reply from server." | 13:58 |
| TheBootroo | surely due to my corporate proxy settings but can't workaround | 13:58 |
| TheBootroo | will need to scp rpm manually and install | 14:00 |
| lbt | I know ...I designed the SDK to avoid that problem but apparently that's not done anymore | 14:00 |
| Jonni | TheBootroo: do you happen to use ProgessCircle in your app? | 14:00 |
| TheBootroo | Jonni: yep | 14:00 |
| lbt | it should copy from the build engine over the private VM LAN to the emulator | 14:01 |
| TheBootroo | but i put running: Qt.application.active | 14:01 |
| TheBootroo | so if this flag is updated it should stop | 14:01 |
| Jonni | TheBootroo: that by default eats a lot of cpu, do yuu disable that when its not showing? | 14:01 |
| TheBootroo | yeah running: :visible | 14:01 |
| TheBootroo | !visible | 14:01 |
| Merbot` | TheBootroo: Error: "visible" is not a valid command. | 14:01 |
| DevBot | TheBootroo: Error: "visible" is not a valid command. | 14:01 |
| Jonni | TheBootroo: and you turn that id to visible = false somewhere? | 14:03 |
| TheBootroo | Jonni: not the id itself but it's parent | 14:04 |
| TheBootroo | and visible is inherited | 14:04 |
| Jonni | as I had similar kind of 200 wakeups a second problem with progresscircle and there was some place where I forgot to switch it off even when it already was drawing something else on top of it. | 14:05 |
| TheBootroo | Jonni: in fact, i use BusyIndicator | 14:06 |
| TheBootroo | not ProgressCircle | 14:06 |
| Jonni | TheBootroo: can you pastebin your progresscircle codesniplet, just want to see what you do with that timer. Or BysyIndicator code? | 14:06 |
| TheBootroo | Jonni: http://pastebin.com/hgjhxMnX | 14:07 |
| locusf | lbt: is it a known issue in the sdk that the version increase in the .yaml file doesn't trigger specify automatically? | 14:08 |
| Jonni | TheBootroo: maybe "running: (parentid.visible && rootItem.applicationActive)" might be worth the try, if visible inheritance would have issues. | 14:09 |
| TheBootroo | how to copy a local file to sailfish VM ? scp annoys me about -i option not being folder, i think it thinnks its the destination | 14:12 |
| Yaniel | isn't there some shared folder too? | 14:13 |
| Jonni | I usually just add my id_rsa.pub to vm's authorized_keys so I dont need to play with -i | 14:13 |
| TheBootroo | at least applicationActive seems to be triggered correclty | 14:14 |
| Nicd- | writing my first app :) | 14:15 |
| TheBootroo | Jonni: can you try my app with some fix i just did to test CPU usage ? | 14:15 |
| Jonni | TheBootroo: sure | 14:16 |
| TheBootroo | Jonni: do you want x86 rpm ? or arm one ? or project ? | 14:16 |
| Jonni | arm rpm would be nice, so I can test on actual device | 14:16 |
| TheBootroo | omg | 14:16 |
| TheBootroo | just realized | 14:16 |
| TheBootroo | MY COVER HAS PROGRESS CIRCLE !!! | 14:17 |
| Yaniel | that sounds like a bad idea | 14:17 |
| TheBootroo | i'm screwed | 14:17 |
| TheBootroo | well, i'm totally fucked up | 14:17 |
| Yaniel | at least it explains the rejection | 14:17 |
| TheBootroo | well, will do my good old trick : custom component, much more lighter | 14:18 |
| TheBootroo | wait a few mins | 14:18 |
| Yaniel | what do you even need it for? | 14:18 |
| Yaniel | a static symbol would be enough to tell the user that things are being updated if that is what you want | 14:18 |
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| TheBootroo | Yaniel: i nice time counter | 14:27 |
| lbt | locusf: mb2 runs specify if the datestamp says yaml is older than spec https://github.com/mer-tools/sdk-setup/blob/master/src/mb2#L100 | 14:28 |
| TheBootroo | but i used an old component of mine, much lighter then ProgressCircle | 14:28 |
| TheBootroo | Jonni: ready to test ? | 14:28 |
| Jonni | sure | 14:28 |
| lbt | TheBootroo: emulator has rsync | 14:28 |
| lbt | https://github.com/mer-tools/sdk-setup/blob/master/src/mb2#L265 | 14:29 |
| Nicd- | hmm, I put a slider on my second page and it appears directly between the first and the second page | 14:29 |
| lbt | mmm - although kaltsi may know where the jolla version of that file is | 14:29 |
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| TheBootroo | Jonni: download package at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1237695/harbour-citybikeme-0.4-1.armv7hl.rpm | 14:32 |
| kaltsi | yes it's here https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/sdk-setup | 14:32 |
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| Nicd- | here's my qml: https://gist.github.com/Nicd/3a208431c37337840f47 | 14:36 |
| Nicd- | the slider appears right between the first and second page | 14:36 |
| Nicd- | I've never done QML so I have no idea why | 14:36 |
| TheBootroo | Jonni: did you succesfully dl/install it ? | 14:36 |
| Jonni | TheBootroo: beheaves much better now, doesnt eat 50% of cpu anymore when cover is minimized. | 14:37 |
| TheBootroo | Jonni: how much exactly ? | 14:37 |
| Jonni | TheBootroo: its eating 50% when on forground, so its a bit heavy on foreground, but mayb e that is is because there is so many animations on the map. | 14:38 |
| TheBootroo | yeah | 14:38 |
| Jonni | TheBootroo: on minimized it eats close to 0-2 and sometimes goes to 10% when network updates happen. | 14:38 |
| TheBootroo | didn't found a way to animate mutliple items with same animation | 14:38 |
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| Jonni | but atleast now you can resubmit, covers should not be rejected anymore, but ofcourse they can find something else too :) | 14:41 |
| Wnt | wow, the device is logging quite a lot of output to "journalctl -f -a" | 14:44 |
| Wnt | I have a email with a ~50MB video attachment stuck in the outbox on the device and it is logging the base64 version of the attachement to the journalctl system all the time | 14:45 |
| Stskeeps | Wnt: i'll go shout at somebody over that, moment.. | 14:46 |
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| TheBootroo | Jonni: i think i've found a way to optimize animation, will you test again ? | 14:46 |
| Jonni | sure | 14:47 |
| TheBootroo | ok wait | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | Wnt: bug filed | 14:47 |
| Wnt | Stskeeps: great, thanks! | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | that should naturally not happen | 14:47 |
| TheBootroo | Jonni: same link again, udpated https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1237695/harbour-citybikeme-0.4-1.armv7hl.rpm | 14:48 |
| TheBootroo | cpu usage should be much more fair now | 14:48 |
| TheBootroo | one animation item to rule them all ! | 14:48 |
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| Wnt | I think I'll need to remove and re-add the email account the message is stuck on | 14:49 |
| Wnt | as it seems to try to re-send the message all the time even though I already removed the message from the Outbox | 14:50 |
| Jonni | TheBootroo: actually its now around 55% so no improvement or you made it worse | 14:50 |
| Jonni | TheBootroo: or dropbox link caches old version | 14:50 |
| TheBootroo | Jonni: rly ? | 14:50 |
| TheBootroo | can't be worse | 14:50 |
| Jonni | usually its a good idea to change the url | 14:50 |
| TheBootroo | i have now only one anitmation | 14:50 |
| TheBootroo | ok wait | 14:50 |
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| TheBootroo | Jonni: changed package version | 14:51 |
| TheBootroo | Jonni: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1237695/harbour-citybikeme-0.5-1.armv7hl.rpm | 14:52 |
| Jonni | TheBootroo: much better. now its between 5-15% CPU usage | 14:54 |
| TheBootroo | YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH | 14:54 |
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| TheBootroo | well, resubmitting | 14:54 |
| tanghus | Any way to get rid of the "Recharge battery" bar in the emulator? A tad annoying | 14:55 |
| TheBootroo | such a huge perf boost, should be accepted in a couple of seconds ^^ | 14:55 |
| Stskeeps | tanghus: on PC or laptop? | 14:55 |
| tanghus | Stskeeps: PC | 14:55 |
| Stskeeps | tanghus: ok, on laptop it actually shows correct battery levels | 14:56 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:56 |
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| tanghus | cool, but not so cool when no batteries included ;) | 14:56 |
| Stskeeps | yes, agreed | 14:56 |
| Stskeeps | i don't think we currently support the system property of "this device has built in power source' | 14:57 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:57 |
| tanghus | He he, probably not | 14:57 |
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| tanghus | Stskeeps: here in says 87% for some odd reason? | 14:58 |
| Stskeeps | tanghus: O_o | 14:58 |
| Nicd- | so can anyone help me? | 14:59 |
| Nicd- | for some reason the slider appears off the page to the left here: https://gist.github.com/Nicd/3a208431c37337840f47 | 15:00 |
| Nicd- | and above the text | 15:01 |
| Yaniel | should it be inside the column maybe? | 15:01 |
| Nicd- | but it is? | 15:01 |
| Yaniel | no | 15:01 |
| Yaniel | oh sorry yes | 15:02 |
| Yaniel | didn't notice the PageHeader | 15:02 |
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| Nicd- | ah, apparently I need to specify anchors.horizontalCenter: parent.horizontalCenter | 15:05 |
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| Nicd- | it was also missing a width attribute | 15:09 |
| Nicd- | that made it float above all other elements on the page | 15:09 |
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| Nicd- | I have set a slider's minimumvalue to 1 and maximumvalue to 30, the slider starts at 0 | 15:10 |
| Nicd- | is this a bug or is it just required to initialize the value? | 15:10 |
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| Frye | Argh, id: root was not valid. When that was changed to rootPage then it works. | 15:17 |
| Frye | Must have been old example that I followed | 15:18 |
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| zuh | tanghus: You can click on it (couple of times I think) so it goes away | 15:27 |
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| tanghus | zuh: \o/ Why on earth didn't I think of that? Thanks :) | 15:44 |
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| Nicd- | what's the typical path to put javascript files in? | 15:53 |
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| sigmaorion | hi guys! In harmattan I used to use Qt.quit() signal in QML to allow a menu option to quit the application, but it doesn't seem to work in Sailfish. I get "Signal QQmlEngine::quit() emitted, but no receivers connected to handle it.". Any suggestions? | 15:57 |
| Nicd- | quitting the app is done by swiping down from the top | 15:58 |
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| sigmaorion | Nicd-, yeah I know, but I would like to add an option in the pulley menu as well. In Harmattan you can close the app swiping, but some apps also add the quit option in the menu... | 15:59 |
| thesignal | is someone from the harbour team in here? i got rejected again, but everything claimed is as it should be. i also unpacked the rpm to take a look.... | 15:59 |
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| Nicd- | sigmaorion: why two ways to quit the app? I feel that would just confuse users | 15:59 |
| LUilufin | what is Jollas root passwd? | 16:00 |
| Nicd- | LUilufin: enable remote SSH in developer mode settings and you can set the password there. use devel-su to get root | 16:00 |
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| LUilufin | Nicd-: thx so much | 16:01 |
| LUilufin | : D | 16:01 |
| sigmaorion | Nicd-, otherwise my pulley menu would only have an "About" item... yeah, it's not a good reason, I know, but I wanted to add it | 16:01 |
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| LUilufin | What factory reset really do? | 16:03 |
| LUilufin | Are there recovery partition or something? | 16:03 |
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| Wnt | I'm having problems connecting to my second gmail account via MfE. The first account configured ok and seems to be integrated to the calendar and email nicely. I have "journalctl -f -a" logs of account creation and of opening the email account. Should I send the logs to somewhere? | 16:10 |
| Wnt | well here are links to those logs: http://upload.egarden.fi/creating_account.log http://upload.egarden.fi/opening_email.log | 16:11 |
| Wnt | no errors are shown on the device | 16:11 |
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| Wnt | to my eyes the messages like "ActiveSync : syncStarted event ignored, different account id" "ActiveSync : syncCompleted event ignored, different account id" seem suspicious | 16:13 |
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| sigmaorion | how should I use Qt::WindowOverridesSystemGestures to lock the swipe? | 16:26 |
| sigmaorion | I couldn't find much info about it... | 16:27 |
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| ericcc_ | how can i install browser on sdk? | 16:33 |
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| mateioprea | hello, can someone tell me more about sailfishos ? can i install it on an android based phone ? | 16:35 |
| LUilufin | Play Store succesfully installed! | 16:37 |
| mateioprea | ? | 16:38 |
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| LUilufin | I installed Play Store to my Jolla :3 | 16:38 |
| mateioprea | oh ... | 16:38 |
| mateioprea | nice | 16:39 |
| LUilufin | And it works. | 16:39 |
| mateioprea | i like sailfishos ... but i dont know if i can install it on my android :( | 16:39 |
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| Wnt | LUilufin: nice! | 16:41 |
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| LUilufin | Maybe I should to do intructions? :D | 16:42 |
| sremes | please do :) | 16:42 |
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| ericcc_ | please | 16:44 |
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| mhall119 | congrats to the Jolla developers on the release of their first phone | 16:46 |
| locusf | all Finnish Jolla users, we opened a channel with _Razor_ on #jollasuomi | 16:47 |
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| Elleo | is it intentional that QAudioOutput doesn't support any formats? | 16:57 |
| Elleo | what's the recommended system for outputting raw audio under sailfish? GStreamer? | 16:57 |
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| Elleo | hmm, seems that it actually doesn't have any audio devices presented through qaudiodeviceinfo | 17:08 |
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| Elleo | eitherway, what's the prefered mechanism since qaudio is out? | 17:08 |
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| MSameer | Elleo: what are you trying to do ? | 17:16 |
| MSameer | i am the gstreamer guy so I use gstreamer but gstreamer is not a store supported API | 17:16 |
| Elleo | MSameer: just push some raw audio out through a sound device | 17:16 |
| Elleo | but qaudiooutput doesn't seem to be supported | 17:17 |
| Elleo | so if I use gstreamer directly I won't be able to publish in the store? | 17:17 |
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| Elleo | this is for cutespotify, I'm getting raw pcm data from libspotify that I'd like to be able to play | 17:17 |
| MSameer | mmm | 17:18 |
| MSameer | then you don't need qaudio output | 17:18 |
| MSameer | aha you do | 17:19 |
| Elleo | heh | 17:19 |
| MSameer | ok i am not sure what the supported API is but maybe you can use libpulse ? | 17:19 |
| Elleo | will that be allowed in the store? | 17:19 |
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| MSameer | Elleo: use QtMultimedia | 17:20 |
| Elleo | it'd be a shame to rewrite to use libpulse only to find that I still can't publish it | 17:21 |
| Elleo | does qtmultimedia allow that level of access? | 17:21 |
| MSameer | libQt5Multimedia.so.5 seems to be allowed | 17:21 |
| LUilufin | Want someone try install Play Store? | 17:21 |
| MSameer | LUilufin: it's not supported unfortunately | 17:21 |
| Elleo | qaudiooutput is part of qtmultimedia | 17:22 |
| Elleo | and is the recommended mechanism on the qtmultimedia docs for low level output | 17:22 |
| MSameer | Elleo: I am not a qt multimedia expert but: | 17:22 |
| MSameer | QMediaPlayer should work | 17:23 |
| MSameer | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtmultimedia/qmediaplayer.html | 17:23 |
| LUilufin | MSameer: I installed Play Store to my phone | 17:23 |
| LUilufin | And now I want testers for my instructions | 17:23 |
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| Elleo | qmediaplayer isn't low level enough | 17:23 |
| Elleo | I need to be able to set the sample rate, bit rate, etc. for raw audio and push chunks of data to it | 17:24 |
| Elleo | which is what qaudio is *for* | 17:25 |
| MSameer | Elleo: so what is the problem? qaudio output produces no sound or it gives an error? | 17:25 |
| LUilufin | http://jollafin.blogspot.fi/2013/11/play-store-for-jolla.html | 17:25 |
| Elleo | qaudio doesn't seem to be supported at all on sailfish | 17:25 |
| Elleo | qaudiodevinceinfo provides a list of 0 supported devices | 17:25 |
| Elleo | qaudiodeviceinfo* | 17:25 |
| MSameer | mmm | 17:26 |
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| MSameer | i really don't know :( | 17:26 |
| Elleo | :/ | 17:26 |
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| Elleo | any idea who the right person to talk to about this would be? | 17:28 |
| MSameer | yeah but he's not on IRC | 17:28 |
| Elleo | any other way I can pester him (work email, etc.)? ;) | 17:30 |
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| MSameer | w00t: do you have any experience with qtmultimedia? | 17:30 |
| Elleo | I found a message on the mailinglist with someone else having the same issue, but it never got any replies | 17:31 |
| MSameer | let me check the code and see | 17:32 |
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| Elleo | thanks | 17:33 |
| MSameer | Elleo: are you trying on the emulator or the phone? | 17:34 |
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| Elleo | MSameer: emulator, but someone did try running it on the phone as well | 17:34 |
| MSameer | Elleo: could you give me some code to test with? a binary would do if you don't want to share the code | 17:35 |
| Elleo | although I can't be certain whether there's no qaudio devices on the phone or if there is one but it just doesn't support the right format | 17:35 |
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| Elleo | MSameer: hang on, I'll just push my version with extra qaudio debugging | 17:35 |
| MSameer | Elleo: I can help debugging or at least try to | 17:36 |
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| Elleo | actually thinking about it a little sample program might be better | 17:39 |
| Elleo | as to use the main one you'd have to get a spotify key | 17:40 |
| Elleo | I'll just quickly put something together | 17:40 |
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| MSameer | Elleo: no need | 17:48 |
| MSameer | Elleo: QAudioDeviceInfo::availableDevices(QAudio::AudioOutput) <-- returns empty list | 17:48 |
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| Elleo | yeah | 17:49 |
| Elleo | if it's any use: http://http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/qaudiotest.tar.gz | 17:50 |
| Elleo | oops | 17:50 |
| Elleo | http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/qaudiotest.tar.gz | 17:50 |
| Elleo | that just basically runs through all the qaudiodevice stuff | 17:51 |
| Elleo | checks available devices, tries to get the default device (doesn't work since there aren't any) then prints all the available info for that device (nothing) | 17:51 |
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| tanghus | How do I disable or hide a qml element or component? Can't find any hints anywhere | 17:54 |
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| Elleo | tanghus: all qml components have a "visible" property which you can make false | 17:55 |
| Elleo | well, all items, not all components | 17:55 |
| tanghus | Elleo: I just found visble by trial an error :D Thanks | 17:55 |
| Elleo | :) | 17:55 |
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| LUilufin | now it works | 18:04 |
| LUilufin | http://jollafin.blogspot.fi/2013/11/play-store-for-jolla.html | 18:04 |
| tanghus | LUilufin: cool! | 18:05 |
| LUilufin | REMEMBER TAKE BACKUP | 18:05 |
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| MSameer | Elleo: i really don't know but i really feel bad to say that there is no supported audio output ATM ::/ | 18:12 |
| piggz | LUilufin: do apps that need google play service work? (strava?) | 18:12 |
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| LUilufin | I dont sure | 18:13 |
| LUilufin | If you can try I can edit my post | 18:13 |
| Elleo | MSameer: yeah, if gstreamer was allowed in the store I'd be happy enough to rewrite it to use an appsrc; but it'd seem a waste of time if I can't distribute it easily | 18:14 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm the jStore is kind of a mystery | 18:15 |
| tortoisedoc_ | wonder when paid app support will start? | 18:15 |
| MSameer | Elleo: gstreamer or even libpulse but they are not allowed | 18:15 |
| tortoisedoc_ | MSameer : forever or just for now? | 18:15 |
| Elleo | yeah, that's a shame | 18:15 |
| MSameer | tortoisedoc_: just now | 18:16 |
| MSameer | the API will be expanded for sure | 18:16 |
| Elleo | I'm guessing there isn't a public bug tracker I should be filing this against or anything? | 18:16 |
| tortoisedoc_ | MSameer : ok | 18:16 |
| Jonni | Elleo: we are working on allowing more api's, so stay tuned | 18:16 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Elleo: there is a bugtracker on maemo | 18:16 |
| MSameer | Elleo: do you mind if I use your test to file a bug? | 18:16 |
| Elleo | MSameer: sure, that'd be good :) | 18:16 |
| tortoisedoc_ | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91886 | 18:16 |
| tortoisedoc_ | actually I wanted to ask how official that is? :) | 18:17 |
| thresh | can anyone with a device and yandex store installed test VLC on theirs phone? I've just update vlc.apk on ystore to be the current one | 18:17 |
| Elleo | tortoisedoc_: yeah, I meant more an official bug tracker | 18:17 |
| Elleo | but it sounds like MSameer will handle that side of things :) | 18:17 |
| MSameer | sailfishapp.h: No such file or directory | 18:18 |
| MSameer | :p | 18:18 |
| Elleo | plus that list on tmo seems more aimed at user bugs | 18:18 |
| tortoisedoc_ | thresh : which vlc? | 18:18 |
| tortoisedoc_ | remote free? | 18:18 |
| tortoisedoc_ | or for android beta? | 18:19 |
| Elleo | MSameer: that header probably doesn't need to be included at all; I just used the sdk template and shoved a quick test into the main method | 18:19 |
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| thresh | tortoisedoc_: vlc for android beta | 18:19 |
| MSameer | Elleo: no worries | 18:19 |
| tortoisedoc_ | thresh : downloading | 18:19 |
| thresh | I suppose it wont work, but still :D | 18:19 |
| Elleo | the yaml file might depend on sailfishsilica-qt5 unnecessarily too | 18:19 |
| tortoisedoc_ | i need to get some audio :D | 18:19 |
| tortoisedoc_ | to test it with | 18:19 |
| MSameer | Elleo: an option would be bundling your own copy of qtmultimedia in /usr/share/appname | 18:20 |
| MSameer | Elleo: I am serious | 18:20 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | hmm | 18:22 |
| Elleo | MSameer: heh, maybe | 18:22 |
| tortoisedoc_ | thresh | 18:22 |
| tortoisedoc_ | app launches fine | 18:22 |
| tortoisedoc_ | but cant find videos from camera | 18:22 |
| Elleo | MSameer: if it isn't fixed by the time my device arrives I might give that a go; otherwise I'll probably just wait and hope it gets sorted at your end ;) | 18:22 |
| tortoisedoc_ | perhaps android apps do not have access to all of the phone (as they are sandboxed) | 18:23 |
| Elleo | MSameer: presumably I could also be bundling a build of gstreamer if I wanted too (for a different app) | 18:23 |
| MSameer | Elleo: I filed a bug with the test case but I cannot promise when it will be fixed | 18:23 |
| Elleo | MSameer: sure | 18:23 |
| Elleo | MSameer: is that a private bug tracker or is it something I can follow? | 18:23 |
| MSameer | I'd say this is serious because we don't have any way for store apps to output audio | 18:23 |
| MSameer | Elleo: I hate to say it but it's our internal one :/ | 18:24 |
| Elleo | okay, no worries | 18:24 |
| tortoisedoc_ | MSameer : are there plans from Jolla to open a bugtracker for SailfishOS at all? | 18:24 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (at all === at some point) | 18:24 |
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| MSameer | tortoisedoc_: the only way currently is to spam care@jolla ;) | 18:25 |
| MSameer | Elleo: but actually, qtmultimedia is open | 18:26 |
| tortoisedoc_ | MSameer : lolz oldskool eh | 18:26 |
| MSameer | git clone https://github.com/mer-packages/qtmultimedia | 18:26 |
| tortoisedoc_ | btw | 18:26 |
| tortoisedoc_ | any chances to have NFC working? | 18:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | seems like apps from android store are crashing for me | 18:27 |
| thresh | tortoisedoc_: amazing that it launches :) | 18:27 |
| MSameer | tortoisedoc_: i really cannot comment on that. I am just a poor gstreamer guy :) | 18:27 |
| MSameer | tortoisedoc_: aha nfc for android? | 18:27 |
| thresh | tortoisedoc_: maybe there is a way to put some files in a sandbox to test with? :) | 18:27 |
| Elleo | MSameer: might have a poke at it see if I can work out what's wrong; I'm not massively familiar with qt internals though | 18:27 |
| MSameer | Elleo: me too but i will have a look too | 18:27 |
| Elleo | thanks :) | 18:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | thresh : ill see what can be done | 18:28 |
| thresh | tortoisedoc_: great, thanks! | 18:28 |
| MSameer | tortoisedoc_: i poked the guys and will try to get you an answer | 18:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | crap | 18:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | running out of batter AGAIN | 18:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | second time today :( | 18:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | MSameer : thanks ! | 18:28 |
| Elleo | MSameer: just out of curiousity on the gstreamer side, why is alsasink on the device but not pulsesink? | 18:29 |
| tortoisedoc_ | usb connected :) | 18:29 |
| Elleo | MSameer: also I noticed that playsink is included but since neither autoaudiosink or autovideosink are there it's not usable | 18:30 |
| Elleo | although I guess if it's not aimed at external devs it probably doesn't matter | 18:30 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | MSameer : if you could poke the guys responsible for transfer engine it would be even more amazing :I | 18:31 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | MSameer : if you could poke the guys responsible for transfer engine it would be even more amazing :) | 18:31 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (sorry for double posting) | 18:31 |
| Elleo | (by device I really mean emulator) | 18:31 |
| MSameer | Elleo: pulsesink is there | 18:31 |
| Elleo | ah, it's not on the emulator image | 18:31 |
| MSameer | Elleo: audio output should go through pulsesink not alsasink | 18:31 |
| MSameer | Elleo: then it should be a matter of pulling a missing rpm via zypper | 18:32 |
| Elleo | ah okay, perhaps it just has -base installed by default | 18:32 |
| MSameer | tortoisedoc_: nfc for android apps is not yet supported but it is planned | 18:32 |
| Elleo | MSameer: thanks; it's not particularly important, I was just wondering :P | 18:32 |
| MSameer | Elleo: install gst-plugins-good | 18:32 |
| tortoisedoc_ | MSameer : thanks, I saw in SDK that it is available I will toy around with it then ;:) | 18:33 |
| MSameer | tortoisedoc_: available for native use or android? | 18:33 |
| Elleo | MSameer: yeah, got it now :) | 18:33 |
| MSameer | Elleo: so it seems qtmultimedia is built with ulse support for qsound effect (crap) | 18:33 |
| MSameer | but not for qaudiooutput for whatever reason | 18:34 |
| tortoisedoc_ | MSameer NFC ? native | 18:34 |
| MSameer | Elleo: wait wait | 18:34 |
| * MSameer digs more | 18:34 | |
| Elleo | MSameer: ah, so is it just a matter of changing the build flags? | 18:34 |
| Elleo | heh | 18:34 |
| MSameer | Elleo: | 18:35 |
| MSameer | [nemo@localhost ~]$ ./qaudiotest | 18:35 |
| MSameer | [D] main:43 - Available devices: | 18:35 |
| MSameer | [D] main:47 - "sink.primary" | 18:35 |
| MSameer | [D] main:47 - "sink.null" | 18:35 |
| MSameer | [D] main:47 - "sink.fake.sco" | 18:35 |
| MSameer | [D] main:50 - Deafult output device: "sink.primary" | 18:35 |
| MSameer | [D] main:51 - Byte orders: (BigEndian, LittleEndian) | 18:35 |
| MSameer | [D] main:52 - Channel counts: (1, 2, 4, 6, 8) | 18:35 |
| MSameer | [D] main:53 - Codecs: ("audio/pcm") | 18:35 |
| MSameer | [D] main:54 - Sample rates: (8000, 11025, 22050, 44100, 48000) | 18:35 |
| MSameer | [D] main:55 - Sample sizes: (8, 16, 24, 32) | 18:35 |
| MSameer | [D] main:56 - Sample types: (SignedInt, UnSignedInt, Float) | 18:35 |
| Elleo | ooh, awesome :) | 18:35 |
| MSameer | sorry for spamming | 18:35 |
| MSameer | Elleo: add qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-audio-pulseaudio to your Requires | 18:36 |
| Elleo | aha | 18:36 |
| tortoisedoc_ | how to find sandbox of android app...hmm | 18:36 |
| MSameer | now i need to find the bug I filed to invalidate it :p | 18:36 |
| MSameer | tortoisedoc_: all apps are in /data/apps | 18:36 |
| Elleo | MSameer: you rock; I'm now getting audio output from cutespotify \o/ | 18:37 |
| Elleo | so I might be able to actually put out a package even before my phone shows up :) | 18:37 |
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| MSameer | Elleo: sorry it took me a while. I am not a qtmultimedia guy | 18:37 |
| MSameer | but glad it worked for you :) | 18:37 |
| MSameer | Elleo: good work. keep it up :) | 18:37 |
| Elleo | MSameer: no worries, I'd never have figured it out :) | 18:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | MSameer : and data folders for apps? | 18:40 |
| Elleo | oh man, being able to switch spotify songs through sailfish covers is so sweet :) | 18:40 |
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| Jonni | tortoisedoc_: /data/data/... | 18:41 |
| TheBootroo | Elleo: you are developing spotify client ? | 18:42 |
| Jonni | Elleo: nice, I can have a new test round when you push your changes to git repo :) | 18:42 |
| Elleo | TheBootroo: yeah, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0CBXylyjzA | 18:42 |
| TheBootroo | Elleo: would you collaborate with MeeSpot developper too (ylopes) to avoid multiple apps and have one better quality ? | 18:43 |
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| Elleo | Jonni: just installing qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-audio-pulseaudio will fix it | 18:43 |
| Elleo | TheBootroo: it's a port of meespot | 18:43 |
| Elleo | updated to use qt5 | 18:43 |
| TheBootroo | Elleo: oh right | 18:43 |
| TheBootroo | perfect | 18:43 |
| Jonni | Elleo: ah nice :) | 18:43 |
| Elleo | TheBootroo: I also ported it to ubuntu touch | 18:43 |
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| TheBootroo | Elleo: ok, but if i can suggest some things : not too mnay buttons, prefer pulleys, and use monochromatic icons to respect Ambiences | 18:45 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | interesting file | 18:45 |
| TheBootroo | and maybe have a more modern logo | 18:45 |
| MSameer | am i the only lazy guy who is not porting apps ? :p | 18:45 |
| Elleo | TheBootroo: yeah, at the moment I'm just getting all the qml updated to work roughly on sailfish, will be working on polish after that :) | 18:45 |
| tortoisedoc_ | /data/data/com.yandex.store/files/send_device_info :D | 18:45 |
| TheBootroo | Elleo: ok | 18:45 |
| tortoisedoc_ | MSameer: the whole world is trying to port apps to Jolla but can only on the emulator right now :P | 18:46 |
| Elleo | and things like prettier logos will need to be handled by someone with some design skill ;) | 18:46 |
| TheBootroo | Elleo: i can help if you want | 18:46 |
| Konsta | Hi, any info where I can download the linux kernel source for Jolla device? | 18:46 |
| Elleo | TheBootroo: sure :) | 18:46 |
| MSameer | tortoisedoc_: means i need to wait and my favorite apps will be ported then :D | 18:47 |
| TheBootroo | i'm Qt/QML dev, vector graphic designer, and already done my first Sailfish app | 18:47 |
| Elleo | TheBootroo: the sailfish branch is here: https://github.com/Elleo/cutespotify/tree/sailfish | 18:47 |
| TheBootroo | Elleo: is there i git somewhere i could start hackin on ? | 18:47 |
| TheBootroo | ok | 18:47 |
| Elleo | I'll probably be updating the remaining qml files later today | 18:47 |
| Elleo | (to work with silica) | 18:47 |
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| MSameer | Konsta: just allow us more time and all the code will be made available | 18:49 |
| TheBootroo | Elleo: my app : https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/harbour-image-upload/screenshots/52915908afcec66e7c0000d9/6f45e7b0-560e-11e3-82f1-7b875a58cbd0.png | 18:49 |
| TheBootroo | https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/harbour-image-upload/screenshots/52915908afcec66e7c0000d9/6ca52520-560e-11e3-82f1-7b875a58cbd0.png | 18:49 |
| Konsta | MSameer: thanks, next week maybe? :P | 18:50 |
| Elleo | TheBootroo: looks nice :) | 18:50 |
| TheBootroo | thanks | 18:50 |
| MSameer | Konsta: most likely not this week :) | 18:50 |
| TheBootroo | Elleo: git cloned, adding my version of libspotify and my key | 18:53 |
| Elleo | cool :) | 18:53 |
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| tj____ | hmm how come fingerterm on the device fails to source ~/.bash_profile when starting.. .bash_profile sourced ok when sshing in | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | tj____: HOME= not set correctly? | 19:00 |
| tj____ | Stskeeps, nah it's ok. also initial $PWD is / | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | tj____: perhaps just cos of mapplauncherd | 19:03 |
| tj____ | wouldn't know about that | 19:04 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | TheBootroo : is your spotify version same as QSpot= | 19:06 |
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| TheBootroo | Aard: can you review my app ? | 20:03 |
| Aard | TheBootroo: as in, 'put on my device to play with it before you resubmit'? | 20:04 |
| TheBootroo | Aard: now that performance issue i fixed, i would like to see it accepted into Jolla Store ! | 20:04 |
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| TheBootroo | Aard: nope already resubmited | 20:04 |
| TheBootroo | but you can play with it anyway | 20:04 |
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| Aard | TheBootroo: no, I don't have much to do with that progress (don't even know how I'd get to the store input bits) itself. I'm just in a suitable position to get them reconsider not doing the same mistake twice ;) | 20:06 |
| TheBootroo | oh ok | 20:06 |
| TheBootroo | would be nice to have a cartography of jolla teams, know who is who, who does what etc... | 20:06 |
| Stskeeps | it'd always be out of date | 20:07 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:07 |
| Aard | TheBootroo: it's very flexible | 20:07 |
| TheBootroo | yea Jolla is moving fast | 20:07 |
| TheBootroo | for now i'm interested by Harbour review and Jolla phone packing ;-) | 20:07 |
| TheBootroo | Stskeeps: i saw a picture of you on twitter preparing phones for DNA event, are you still doing it for pre-orders ? | 20:11 |
| TheBootroo | Aard: i'd like to know if scrolling in my app list is fast, and if dragging map view is easy | 20:15 |
| TheBootroo | on real device | 20:15 |
| Aard | TheBootroo: for me, fast enough. ymmv | 20:15 |
| TheBootroo | cool | 20:15 |
| TheBootroo | cause Emulator is quite slow | 20:15 |
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| LUilufin | Can I download Cute Spotify somewhere? | 20:17 |
| Elleo | LUilufin: only from my git repo at the moment, and you need to setup your own spotify key and stuff | 20:17 |
| Elleo | LUilufin: https://github.com/Elleo/cutespotify/tree/sailfish | 20:17 |
| Elleo | I'll see about building rpms for the emulator and for the device when I've finished getting more stuff working | 20:18 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps : is it true there were handwritten notes in the jolla packages delivered @ dna event | 20:18 |
| piippo | has anyone with actually Jolla device tested if this MPD client works? https://github.com/djselbeck/smpc/ | 20:19 |
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| LUilufin | hmmp, too hard | 20:22 |
| SieniMaagi | tortoisedo: at least I had one :) | 20:22 |
| Elleo | LUilufin: I'll give you a poke when I have some rpms ready for testing | 20:24 |
| tortoisedoc_ | cool | 20:24 |
| tortoisedoc_ | now if i could fix this battery drainage it would be THE perfect phone :D | 20:24 |
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| LUilufin | nice | 20:29 |
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| Stskeeps | tortoisedoc_: yes | 20:36 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | question | 20:41 |
| tortoisedoc_ | how to change the switch view's bottom 4 icon entries? | 20:41 |
| tortoisedoc_ | where are the relative .desktop's ? | 20:41 |
| raa70 | just grab icon from appgrid | 20:41 |
| tortoisedoc_ | raa70 : grab icon? | 20:42 |
| tortoisedoc_ | aah :) | 20:42 |
| raa70 | long press for edit mode, then move them around | 20:43 |
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| raa70 | how so i get persecute working, rpm -i says i need libsailfishapp.so.1 | 20:44 |
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| lpotter | install libsailfish app package | 20:50 |
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| tanghus | I hated layouting with QLayout, I hate it with CSS and now I realize I hate it just as much in QML :( | 21:06 |
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| TheBootroo | tanghus: you're doing it wrong, QML has no layout, it has anchors and positionners | 21:07 |
| TheBootroo | which are incredibly easy to use and powerfu | 21:08 |
| TheBootroo | +l | 21:08 |
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| TheBootroo | in fact, if i could do the same with CSS, i would maybe like Web dev a little more | 21:08 |
| tanghus | TheBootroo: Call it what you want - I just want the stuff to be where I put it ;) | 21:09 |
| TheBootroo | tanghus: so learn about QtQuick anchors | 21:09 |
| mikhas | tanghus, ;-) | 21:09 |
| Nicd- | so, how do relative paths work when building? I have a qml file qml/foo.qml and a javascript file js/bar.js. foo.qml uses 'import "../js/bar.js"' and qt creator is happy but when building it's not found | 21:09 |
| TheBootroo | it's easy | 21:09 |
| Nicd- | or do I need to add the js folder somewhere? | 21:09 |
| tanghus | TheBootroo: trying to do so without pulling out my hair or crying :D | 21:10 |
| w00t | Nicd-: you need to install the qml+js, otherwise it won't move outside your creator project and not do a lot | 21:11 |
| w00t | tanghus: what's the problem you're running into? | 21:11 |
| tanghus | w00t: trying to position a row of elements within a column | 21:12 |
| tanghus | well, I'll get to it somehow :) | 21:12 |
| Nicd- | w00t: how do I do that? | 21:12 |
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| raa70 | So I need to install the sailfishos SDK, grab libsailfishapp there and install it to my jPhone to get persecute working? or am I really missing something? | 21:13 |
| w00t | tanghus: hm. guess i'd need to see it to understand it :) | 21:14 |
| w00t | raa70: "pkcon install libsailfishapp" (as root) should get you it | 21:14 |
| w00t | Nicd-: i'm probably not the best person to ask as i haven't worked much with the application SDK, sorry | 21:15 |
| tanghus | w00t: maybe I shouldn't use a Row at all, but pure anchors | 21:15 |
| tanghus | Reading up on it now | 21:15 |
| mikhas | tanghus, Row is an auto layouter | 21:16 |
| mikhas | no wonder you struggle with layouting ;-) | 21:16 |
| mikhas | wasn't there also Grid or the like where you can position stuff yourself? | 21:16 |
| tanghus | mikhas: Yeah, you've got a point there | 21:16 |
| MSameer | There is Grid and Column too | 21:17 |
| tanghus | I only started on QML a week ago, so eventually I'll have to read some docs :D | 21:17 |
| raa70 | w00t: ty | 21:18 |
| w00t | docs are for losers! | 21:18 |
| ZogG_laptop | TheBootroo: nice app | 21:18 |
| w00t | there's also Flow (http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.1/qtquick/qml-qtquick2-flow.html) | 21:18 |
| raa70 | bothering a dev for a day, keeps the docs away | 21:19 |
| tanghus | he he | 21:19 |
| FireFly | hrm, I just installed the SDK and when I choose 'create new project' I get no 'SailfishOS' template--how can I figure out what went wrong? The installation didn't show any errors, and the maintenance tool thing seems to consider the SDK to be in an okay state | 21:23 |
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| FireFly | this is the linux-64 version, I guess I should probably add | 21:25 |
| Juice__ | what am I supposed to type to the SSU allow developer updates registration? | 21:25 |
| * FireFly feels nooby but has close to no experience with QtCreator.. | 21:25 | |
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| tortoisedoc_ | w00t : any luck with the power traces I left? | 21:26 |
| w00t | Juice__: ssu domain sales | 21:26 |
| w00t | tortoisedoc_: I pointed some of the androidy type people at it, you were pretty helpful already :) | 21:27 |
| w00t | tortoisedoc_: hpefully something will come out of it quite soon | 21:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | w00t : great, for info, battery drainage is quite severe. Twice low on battery in a day | 21:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | I was hoping to be able to get my hands closer to it, but no time so far :/ | 21:28 |
| w00t | tortoisedoc_: have you tried things out sans android out of curiosity to see if it visibly makes an impact? | 21:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | sans android === with aliendalvik off? | 21:29 |
| Juice__ | w00t: thanks | 21:29 |
| tortoisedoc_ | I have, but no data yet | 21:30 |
| tortoisedoc_ | I can try to get something together | 21:30 |
| w00t | yes | 21:30 |
| w00t | Juice__: worked ok? | 21:30 |
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| Juice__ | w00t: yes, now I can add new repositories and install software | 21:53 |
| Nicd- | yaaaaay, my app reads local storage and pretends to write to it | 21:55 |
| Nicd- | doesn't actually seem to save anything but it's a start! :D | 21:55 |
| tortoisedoc_ | jee | 21:57 |
| tortoisedoc_ | its too late for these questions | 21:57 |
| tortoisedoc_ | but i have to ask it | 21:57 |
| tortoisedoc_ | is the invoker on sailfishos the same from meego? | 21:57 |
| w00t | tortoisedoc_: it's a contination of it | 21:58 |
| w00t | https://github.com/nemomobile/mapplauncherd / https://github.com/nemomobile/mapplauncherd-qt | 21:59 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | w00t : thanks! | 22:00 |
| tortoisedoc_ | w00t : oho there are qt bindings for it? | 22:00 |
| w00t | tortoisedoc_: no - it's really a black box, there's no knobs for applications to touch | 22:01 |
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| Nicd- | is local storage reset every time the app is deployed to the emulator? | 22:09 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | w00t : is application launching from home screen based on libcontentaction on real dev? | 22:13 |
| tortoisedoc_ | jesus christ my english sucks this late.. | 22:13 |
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| w00t | tortoisedoc_: yes: https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick/blob/master/src/components/launcheritem.cpp#L123 | 22:24 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | w00t : thanks | 22:33 |
| TheBootroo | ZogG_laptop: thx | 22:33 |
| tortoisedoc_ | and good night! | 22:33 |
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| TheBootroo | ZogG_laptop: how did you test it ? | 22:34 |
| ZogG_laptop | TheBootroo: i saw screenshots | 22:34 |
| TheBootroo | oh ok | 22:34 |
| ZogG_laptop | it wouldn't support my city anyway | 22:34 |
| TheBootroo | where do you live ? | 22:34 |
| ZogG_laptop | i just thought of making one for my city (for bb10 though) few weeks ago :) | 22:34 |
| ZogG_laptop | in Israel | 22:34 |
| TheBootroo | hehe ok | 22:34 |
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| raa70 | just when i get persecute installed, coderus pulls the plug till he gets jphone | 22:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | raa70: he CAN'T support you | 22:37 |
| ZogG_laptop | use native whatsapp for now | 22:37 |
| Nicd- | s/native/android/ | 22:39 |
| raa70 | yeah I know | 22:40 |
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| Nicd- | I hate myself | 22:41 |
| Nicd- | debugged for 30 minutes why a function always returns null | 22:41 |
| Nicd- | turns out there was no return statement :| | 22:41 |
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| Nicd- | so, when I set value for a slider in QML, the slider's white part is moved but the draggable ball is not | 22:43 |
| Nicd- | how can I move that too? | 22:43 |
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| raa70 | is there easy way to get screenshots from the phone? | 22:46 |
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| lpotter | yes: pkcon install lipstick-qt5-tools ; screenshottool | 22:47 |
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| Elleo | every now and then the SDK reports "Fatal error: [PK_TMP_DIR|dir:///var/tmp/TmpDir.0rgQm4] Repository already exists." when attempting to deploy as an rpm and I have to manually open up zypper and remove that repo | 22:47 |
| Elleo | is this a known bug? | 22:47 |
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