Saturday, 2013-11-30

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ericcc_ping  Elleo03:37
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Elleoericcc_: pong?03:56
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ericcc_Elleo: i  use  you app on sdk04:03
ericcc_it  cant run04:04
Elleowhat error are you getting?04:05
ElleoI assume you're talking about cutespotify?04:05
Elleoalso did you add a spotify key and libspotify to the source tree?04:05
ericcc_yeap    cutespotify04:06
ericcc_add a spotify key and libspotify to the source tree?how04:06
ericcc_i  cant add04:07
Elleoericcc_: have a look in the readme, that shows all the steps04:07
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Elleoyou have to register with spotify for an api key04:07
Elleoand download a copy of libspotify from them04:07
Elleoericcc_: I'll be putting out some prebuilt binaries soon, so if you just want to run it and not develop on it it might be easiest to wait for that04:08
ElleoI have to head to off to bed now though, it's 4am over here :P04:09
Elleoif you're still having trouble tomorrow feel free to give me another poke :)04:09
ericcc_ok   thank you04:09
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Elleono worries :)04:09
Elleonight :)04:09
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timoph"virtual memory exhausted: Cannot allocate memory"07:32
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timophsdk compilation fails to that ^07:32
timophanyone encountered similar issues?07:32
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timophah. it will go bonk if you have too big resource file07:43
timophadded wrong version of a image to the resource file (6MB image)07:44
timopha real issue anyway07:44
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kaltsitimoph: the build engine is configured only for 512 MB of memory, you can change that in the virtualbox settings for MerSDK .. but don't configure more than 2 gigabytes (there's a bug that causes file corruption if more memory is configd)08:01
raa70sms doesn't show character count =(08:06
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ericccadd   memory08:33
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dm8tbrquick question on behalf of fk_lx, how do you get the SDK to generate the RPM and leave it in the filesystem? currently it seems to generate it for him but tries to copy to a device, fails and deletes it?09:13
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fk_lxdm8tbr: thanks for asking, cotinuing on packing the baggage :-D09:14
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tanghusDisclaimer again: First time on a mobile OS and a total n00b. How about notifications for example on errors from an app. Are they the same as events, or is there a specific notification system for non-persistant/non-fatal notifications?09:54
tanghusHe, kinda like if you run the emulator on a "real" PC there's a "Recharge battery" bar on top, which can be dismissed.09:57
tanghusStskeeps: you may know that since you answered about that bar yesterday ^09:59
iekkuhas this been here already:
tanghusiekku: I really like those short tutorials. There were a few things I didn't know - and they're humourous in a subtle way :)10:02
iekkubit unlike :P10:05
tanghusExactly :) The bench-wrench(?) is a nice touch :D10:07
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tanghusFinnish and Danish humour is much [a|un]like, although I think the Fins beat us on keeping it dry - or should I say DRY10:11
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VaraMiktsuHello, can I test my applications in Jolla device from Qt Creator10:32
dm8tbrI'm not sure if you can directly connect, but you should be able to copy over the RPM10:34
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GillyI'm totally new to QML, and was wondering how I could make a grid of nice buttons for a calculator. (Similar to the calculator by Jolla.) The regular Button does not seem to be the way to go. Also in the internet the api says that Button inherits backgrounditem, but in the sdk that does not seem to be the case.10:40
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dm8tbrGilly: hmm, I think there were some example apps on github, but not all of them are QML210:48
Gillydm8tbr: thanks - I'll take a look at them :)10:50
dm8tbrso if an app doesn't build/work. it's probably written for the first alpha sdk, which still used QML1/Qt4.810:52
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tanghusHe, github is not good at recognizing qml. Mine says 65% C++, 23% JS and 11% Prolog. I haven't got the faintest idea about Prolog10:55
tanghusAnd the C++ part is ~7 lines10:56
Nicd-your subconcious has written prolog in the qml files10:56
tanghusha ha10:56
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tanghusMy coding habits are so engraved that I insist on ending all qml with ';' because it's kinda ECMA-script11:01
tanghusWell not for that reason, but for all the havock you get when minimizing js without ';' endings, and I don't wanna wreck my habit :D11:02
leinirtanghus: it's not required, but it's good to do11:04
leinirmakes the code much more pleasant ;)11:04
leinirso yeah, i do that too :)11:04
leinirsort of like how you /can/ do comparisons in qml using ==, but really you want to do the === thing, because it's just nicer and all that jazz11:05
tanghusleinir: exactly! Even though it may look pwettier, it's just so much easier to be on the safe side.11:07
tanghusAnd there my grammar went down the drain...11:08
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tanghusleinir: hadn't seen you here btw. lurking or do you have a boat in dry-dock?11:10
leiniroh, i've been here for ages *giggles* :)11:10
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tanghushe he11:11
leinirBut yeah, i work for KO, so... ;)11:11
tanghusTordenskjolds Soldater ;)11:12
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tanghusleinir: sweet!11:12
leinirHehe, yes, something like that ;)11:12
leinirIndeed! Took some pretty hard work to get it done, but... it's in :)11:13
tanghusI had only heard rumours about Calligra on Sailfish - good to see!11:13
leinirit wasn't really a rumour, we just didn't talk about it much :)11:13
tanghusIsn't that the definition of a rumour? When it turns out to be true at least :)11:14
tanghusleinir: Maybe I've been told already, but cool that you work at KO. Seems like an awesome company.11:16
leinirnah, a rumour is something which noone talks about in an official capacity - we have just not made much noise about it, but it's not really been kept a secret either, it's been talked about on the calligra channel, and anybody who's asked we've been able to say :)11:16
leinirwe just haven't been able to say anything about the application itself, but that calligra was being used was entirely public :)11:17
leinirThanks! :D Yeah, really happy working there, it's a great place :)11:17
dm8tbrreminds me a bit of the Tieto involvement ;)11:17
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dm8tbrlooking at the right git also shows that we did important stuff for Nemo/Sailfish11:17
dm8tbralso nobody in Finnland would suspect us of doing cool open source stuff...11:18
tanghusYour right. Calligra on Sailfish has actually been confirmed for a while. I just hadn't heard about it for a while11:18
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Nicd-does it have a PDF reader?11:19
leinirtanghus: yeah, we were too busy actually making sure we got it done to do much in the way of talking about it *giggles* not unlike the sailors themselves ;)11:19
Nicd-ah, apprently yes. that's good11:19
leiniryes, and that bit is how you can tell it's going to end up opensourced, as it uses poppler ;)11:19
tanghusleinir: They do have a good way of marketing themselves. Which is good!11:20
leinirtanghus: Indeed! :)11:20
tanghusSo good I've gotta control myself not to be a fanboi ;)11:21
leinir*giggles* :)11:21
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tanghusbtw leinir, cool what you (KO) did with documents for ownCloud. I wasn't aware of it until Frank told me a few days before release, and only because I asked what that silly count-down was about :D11:25
tanghusI was afraid they were gonna release oC6 too early11:26
leinirtanghus: *nods* Hehe, yes, that was kind of hush hush ;) Some pretty nifty stuff there, webodf is impressive :)11:26
leiniretherpad, watch out ;)11:26
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tanghusYeah, I haven't tried it out yet, but the responses have been good afaict11:27
leinir*nods* :)11:27
tanghusAnd it takes some guts to compete with etherpad11:28
leinirHehe, yes, that's a big one :)11:28
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leinirwe're sort of attacking it from the opposite end, though... etherpad's very simplistic, only text... webodf started out with the powerful formatting and stuff, and thanks to the operations stuff has been able to fit in the collaborative stuff later on... it's kind of interesting from a technical point of view :)11:29
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zeldhello!! \o/ :-)11:30
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tanghusTechnically it must have been very hard to not have that in mind from the beginning11:30
tanghusAhoy Stskeeps11:31
tanghusleinir: but you sure beat ether on the usability side - for non-techies11:32
leinirtanghus: yeah, there's that too :)11:33
leinirbut yeah, the whole having it in mind, well... i think jos might've given it thought ;)11:33
zeldis possible to install sailfishos into a nexus 4? i think yes... the hardware is already tested into the kernel 3.4  but there is already a project where to find instruction about the installation?11:35
Stskeepszeld: yes, but not documented yet11:35
zeldwhen i read about sailfishos i was happy!! \o/ :D11:35
zeldi develop with Qt :D so... for me is beautifull use an OS with Qt inside!! \o/ :-)11:36
tanghusleinir: you should really vamp up - I have to squint my eyes to even see the screen shot, and I'm not - that - old ;)11:39
tanghusBut I guess you don't make a fuss of yourselves for a reason ;)11:40
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zeldStskeeps: i was reading alsoo that sailfish os is able to run android apps...11:41
zeldis possible to install and use gapps?11:41
zeldthere is a license problem?11:42
zeldor not?11:42
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zuhzeld: but don't even dream that Jolla would do anything but advice not to do that :)12:10
zuhLegally I'm sure it's a breach of some license but doubt that anyone would react to such thing...12:11
zeldooooookkey! :-)12:11
zeldthanks zuh!! so... i will test on nexus 4 sailfishos!! \o/12:11
tortoisedoc_zuh: wait and see12:11
zeldw qt and c++!! :D12:11
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zuhtortoisedoc_: I mean, if you install Play on your Jolla, nobody is going to come and take your device away and take you to court :)12:12
tortoisedoc_zuh : correct, hopefully they wont turn against jolla12:12
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zuhThat's always possible, but it's not like the Play store would matter in that regard.12:15
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dm8tbrI'm a happy G+ and Ingress user on my Jolla :)12:17
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Bloobhi people13:29
Bloobanyone have any idea how/if I can force my app to be the active foreground app?13:30
Nicd-what do you mean? that you can't escape from the app?13:31
BloobI am making an alarm-type app, and would wish to display a page to the user when an alarm fires, but how can I do that if the user is using another app13:33
tbrI think there was some way to raise the app, not sure13:36
tbrhave you checked the mailing list archive?13:36
Bloobno actually13:36
tbrI see a post talking about this but without an answer13:37
tbr[SailfishDevel] QQuickView showFullscreen() and ApplicationWindow.activate() not working after application window deactivated13:38
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Bloobok, thx :)13:39
tbrhmm, where do I have to kick QtC to produce a ARM RPM? it seems to build, but not deliver an RPM13:42
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nanderHow do I fix this? : ReferenceError: openDatabaseSync is not defined14:00
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Nicd-nander: define openDatabaseSync14:02
Nicd-can you show your qml file with pastebin or similar?14:02
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artemmanander: import QtQuick.LocalStorage 2.0 as Ls14:04
artemmaas in
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Nicd-nander: you need to import localstorage in your javascript file14:06
Nicd-if you use it there14:06
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nander_Always nice, visiting your parents.. Except when your dad has a new switch and is experimenting with it....14:08
Skorpyhey, anyone with jolla phone, how do I register in the SSU? (ssu register in terminal, or from the system settings)14:09
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SkorpyI always get the error: Host requires authentication14:09
Skorpyso the actual question is, do input the harbour username/pass or something else there?14:11
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artemmaHow do you know the SDK version? I mean I'd like to refer to exactly current SDK version in the comments, but.. where do I get a string that looks like SDK version?14:12
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artemmaReferring to it just as "Nov 2013" SDK is sort of lame14:12
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Nicd-artemma: qt creator help -> about14:14
artemmaNicd-: I was there, but anything that looks like a version.. only revision 88f905a91414:14
Nicd-exactly that14:15
artemmaand "Built on Oct 21 2013 at 13:36:14"14:15
Nicd-also you can find versions of the specific components in sdkmaintenancetool14:15
artemmagit hash isn14:15
Nicd-in package manager14:15
artemma't very good at communication which SDK is newer/older14:15
artemmaand actually what is the current SDK name logically? :)14:15
artemmaIs it something like Alpha 2?14:15
artemmaAlso isn't Qt Creator About telling about the Creator's build? I.e. same creator could be used for two different sdk versions14:16
artemmapossibly it's even the case right now as SDK had very small update pushed after the full release14:16
Nicd-well that qt creator string is what they asked me once14:18
Nicd-when I was having problems14:18
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Skorpyoh great. tried to re-enable ddeveloper mode. getting error from store when trying to enable it and can't install anything from store. greeeeat great.... :(14:34
StskeepsSkorpy: do you have terminal on it atm and what does ssu lr say?14:35
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Skorpyshows lots of repos14:36
Skorpy(thankfully I still have ssh open)14:36
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Skorpymeh... Quess I have to reset the device14:39
Skorpyhave to go soon and I'll lose the ssh connection :/14:41
StskeepsSkorpy: ok, what's the most common hostname there?14:44
Stskeepsokay, do you have root access by chance?14:45
SkorpyI'm root atm14:46
ElleoI'm having some issues with cover actions; when launched from the command line everything works perfectly, however when launched via the invoker as a silica-qt5 app the cover actions don't appear (but the cover itself does show up)14:46
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StskeepsSkorpy: ok, ssu domain sales14:47
Stskeeps(type everything after 'ok,')14:47
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Stskeepsand reboot14:47
Elleoand if I try launching it as just a qt5 app via invoker it works fine from the command line but doesn't launch from a .desktop icon14:47
SkorpyStskeeps: If I reboot, do I have ssh access then?14:48
StskeepsSkorpy: well, you can try store now14:48
Stskeepswithout rebooting14:48
Stskeepsrebooting is just safer as it forces packagekit to clean it's cache14:48
SkorpyStskeeps: thank you thank you thank you14:49
Skorpyyou saved me :D14:49
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StskeepsSkorpy: no problem14:49
Skorpyhmm, the store doesn't work, but I got dev mode back atleast14:50
SkorpyStskeeps: how do I register in the SSU?14:52
StskeepsSkorpy: you don't/shouldn't unless you want to get into same situation again14:54
Stskeepsupdates come through store14:54
Skorpywell how do I install packages wth pkcon if I don't register SSU?14:54
Skorpysure I would be better off not doing anything from there but I can't keep myself from toying. :D14:55
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Stskeepspkcon works without ssu14:57
Stskeepsthere's two things here14:57
Stskeepsssu registration = log in to a walled-off company releases stream14:57
Skorpyah, ok14:57
Skorpythen why does the pkcon shout about ssu everytime I try to do something?14:58
Stskeepswell, it's used in another way too14:58
Stskeepsthe sales repos are unauthenticated14:58
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Skorpyah I see14:59
Skorpyso why was my domain set to "jolla"? because I tried to register in to the SSU?15:00
Stskeepsit's a bug15:01
Stskeepsit should only do it when you've succesfully authed15:01
Skorpywell, thanks a lot. you really saved me here. :P15:01
Stskeepsyou're not the first15:01
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artemmaDies Qt.openUrlExternally("") work in a real device?15:10
artemmaIt doesn't in emulator, but that's probably because there is no browser app15:10
Stskeepsfairly sure it does15:11
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* artemma has issues aligning vertically Label on the left and TextField on the right.. How do I align them so that text looks like it's on one line. Apparently aligning verticalCenters is not good enough15:16
artemmathat must all this typography I keep forgetting about. Like aligning font baselines rather than vertical centers of controls...15:18
artemmaanybody got an example of aligning Labels and TextInputs well?15:18
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dispthello everyone15:24
disptanyone knows if it is possible fix this in VirtualBox when using MerSDK and SFEmu: VT-x is not available.?15:25
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t7kushi everybody15:26
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t7kussomeone can tell me how to flash sailfish os on my n9?15:28
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Elleois there any documentation on what circumstances sailfish doesn't display cover actions?15:32
Elleoi.e. is there some policy surrounding it, or is it just a bug?15:32
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Sfiet_KonstantinElleo: bug i guess15:33
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nander << file:///opt/sdk/test1/usr/share/test1/qml/pages/js/storage.js:4: ReferenceError: openDatabaseSync is not defined15:33
Elleothat's annoying, because I have no idea what the root cause is :/15:33
artemmaElleo: I would guess a bug. cover actions worked fine for me15:34
Elleothey work fine when I launch my app from the command line15:34
Elleobut when I launch from the invoker with type silica-qt5 they don't show up15:34
Elleothey do show up with type qt5 but the .desktop file doesn't work then15:35
artemmaI'd guess wrong icon path or something15:35
artemmaand well, exec line shouldn't include invoker anymore, should it?15:35
Elleoartemma: it's not the icons, the actions themselves aren't available15:35
artemmaI thought it's like Exec=harbour-helloworld-pro-sailfish15:35
Elleooh, shouldn't it?15:35
Elleobecause the examples did15:35
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artemmaMy Exec line worked fine for me and project was displaying cover actions on dvice15:36
Elleoif I try just having the straight path in the Exec it doesn't launch at all15:36
Elleoare there any logs from the launcher?15:37
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Elleocould it perhaps be because I'm launching it as a straight forward QApplications not a SailfishApp ?15:37
artemmaI'd guess some real simple mistake somewhere. Like some other part of your app fails to initialize and missing cover actions are some sort of a side effect15:38
nanderI think console.log logs to the external log?15:38
Elleoartemma: well the rest of the cover shows up fine, it's only the actions that don't15:38
Elleoand it works fine when launched from the command line15:38
Elleoand the actions don't require any init from the rest of the app15:38
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artemmaWell, I can only share my experience. Cover actions were working fine on device and I used the exec line similar to one posted15:40
artemmalittle idea on whether it's related though15:40
Elleowell I'll keep poking around I guess15:42
artemmaerror: Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found:15:42
artemma   /usr/lib/debug/.build-id/bf/28c74e23419217a094fbf3db3d79837ce2d27e15:42
artemmaWho the hell INSTALLs that?15:42
nander16:33 < nander> << file:///opt/sdk/test1/usr/share/test1/qml/pages/js/storage.js:4: ReferenceError: openDatabaseSync is not defined15:43
nanderI don't understand that error15:43
artemmamust be me15:43
Elleonander: you imported QtQuick.LocalStorage as Sql15:44
nanderWhat should I do?15:44
Elleoso you should be running Sql.openDatabaseSync15:44
nanderah ;)15:44
nanderI'm a sailfish noob ;)15:44
nanderstill the same error..15:45
Elleonot sure then, I haven't done much with the localstorage stuff15:45
nanderIt used a *different* storage.js15:46
nanderI really don't get why, but that was the problem it seems15:46
artemmanander: I am not sure if you can import QML module into javascript.. but then it compiles15:46
nanderstorage.js:6: TypeError: Object [object Object] has no method 'openDatabaseSync'15:47
artemmawell, if openDatabaseSync is not defined, I'd start debugging by console.out the parent object and it's proprties/methods15:47
nanderIt's kinda litterally an example from the sailfishapp github thing15:47
artemmaapparently it doesn't have the needed method so it's useful to know what this object is instead of what u think it is15:47
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artemmanander: I doubt that example imported QML code into JS15:48
artemmaeven if it's possible (I am not sure it is), it would've been not good style as for me15:48
nanderok, I did that..15:48
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nanderI have this line in my QML : import QtQuick.LocalStorage 2.0 as Sql15:49
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artemmanander: link I posted has a well working import, but it imports local storage into QML15:50
artemmatell me if you manage to import it successfully into js15:50
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nanderWhich link?15:51
artemmaah, sorry, apparently I was only going to pass it :)15:52
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artemmahmm, somebody seems to be able to import QML into JS -
artemmalink leads to obsolete resource, but there's some example as a final message15:54
artemmatry it and tell if it works :)15:54
nanderCould you resend any message addressed to me after my message at 16:51?15:57
ericcc_i  ilke   qml15:57
nanderMy connection broke.. Someone cut the power to the router....15:57
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artemmaah, sorry, apparently I was only going to pass it15:58
nanderCould you resend any message addressed to me after 16:51?15:58
artemmaartemma: hmm, somebody seems to be able to import QML into JS -
artemma[5:54pm] artemma: link leads to obsolete resource,15:58
nanderMy connection broke at that time15:58
artemmaartemma: hmm, somebody seems to be able to import QML into JS -
artemma[5:54pm] artemma: link leads to obsolete resource,15:58
artemmaartemma: try it and tell if it works15:59
nanderYou want me to copy his testlibrary?16:00
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Elleoaha, seem you have to use SailfishApp if you want covers to work correctly16:00
FryeIs there info already how to compile & run application on Jolla device?16:00
FryeI don't seem to find any16:01
Elleostrange that it only causes a problem when launched from the .desktop file though16:01
nanderIn my qml-file I can auto-complete Sql.LocalStorage.openDatabaseSync()16:02
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nanderIt was Sql.LocalStorage.openDatabaseSync(), not Sql.open__()16:05
Elleoah, sorry, my mistake16:08
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ericcc_nander   you code use   openDatabaseSync?how can i find it16:08
nanderI use openDatabaseSync..16:11
nanderI import it in every QML file where I use it and refer to it as Sql.LocalStorage.openDatabaseSync16:11
nanderimport QtQuick.LocalStorage 2.0 as Sql16:11
FryeThat's what I had to do too.16:12
Fryein my .js file: .import QtQuick.LocalStorage 2.0 as Sql16:12
nanderI'm still debugging16:12
Fryeand then Sql.LocalStorage.openDatabaseSync16:12
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FryeMy issue is that I want to run this app in my phone and cannot seem to figure how.16:13
piggzwhats is the password for devel-su on sailfish? rootme and nemo dont work16:13
ericcc_try  nemo16:13
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Fryepiggz, you can set the password in the settings window16:14
FryeAnd if set it's visible there16:14
piggzFrye: i cant ... it seems to get stuck on 'enabling developer mode'16:15
piggz(this is hacked onto an n950 btw)16:15
FryeIt will install some aditional packages. Are you connected to network?16:15
piggzi can install packaged using pkcon in terminal, and have install jolla-developer-mode16:16
ericcc_i want  to ask the sailfishapp  for  can  run on  sdk?16:19
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nanderIt seems my insert query doesn't work16:23
Hurrianpiggz: you have more of the SDK hacked onto the N950?16:23
piggzHurrian: i seem to have most of sailfish, from the jolla repositories of the device16:25
piggzi can install stuff ffrom the phone, but it would be more convenient if i could ssh in! :)16:26
ericcc_nande   it  show me Wikipedia-master/Wikipedia-master/ have some  wrong16:26
Hurrianmmm. looks like I'll need to poke around the rpm/ssu stuff deeper.16:26
Hurrianpiggz: the repo details were pulled from a real Jolla?16:27
Hurrianwelp, looks like I'll have to wait for Flasher(4.0?) images/rootfs dumps to get to those :P16:28
Stskeepsjust be aware of sailfish EULA governing the use of that software, fwiw16:28
piggzi dont think ive seen any eula ... i play ignorance ;)16:28
HurrianStskeeps: was looking at details for the hw adaptation of the Jolla - it's a hybris device? :o16:29
mikhaspiggz, there's one when you activate your account for no?16:29
StskeepsHurrian: yup, wayland, qt5, libhybris16:29
HurrianI was surprised myself - /sbin/preinit with Android aboot kernel cmdline args! :D16:30
piggz(not clicking ;)16:30
StskeepsHurrian: it made it possible to go from reference design to shipping product in very short time :)16:30
HurrianStskeeps - I could imagine doing bringup's a lot easier now ;)16:31
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piggzStskeeps: so, can you help me set the nemo password? :)16:34
todayerccc:  for  what?16:34
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Nicd-Stskeeps: is there a way to move the ball of a slider to match the value?16:34
Nicd-others can respond too :P16:34
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artemmaKind people with devices, please, test this RPM -
* artemma is creating a HelloWorld on steroids to help people go over the initial difficulties16:41
Nicd-will do16:41
Nicd-can you just 'pkcon install url'?16:41
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Nicd-artemma: it runs16:50
Nicd-what do you want to know?16:50
artemmaNicd-: see if it has a sane name and icon (should look like wikipedia) in launcher16:50
artemmathat's it16:50
artemmacool! thx16:51
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Nicd-can QML do timers, like "sleep for 30 minutes and then do this"?16:55
Sfiet_KonstantinNicd-: QML Timer class16:58
Sfiet_KonstantinNicd-: but well, it might not be the best solution16:58
Sfiet_KonstantinI don't know if SystemAlignedTimer is out there or not16:58
Sfiet_Konstantinfor sleeping, timer sucks resources, only use for small times16:59
Sfiet_Konstantinand for interactions16:59
Elleowhere does the sdk stick rpms when compiling for armv7?17:00
Elleoor does it not build them by default? (I noticed that "deploy via rpm" was unsupported)17:00
Nicd-Sfiet_Konstantin: ok, how would I make my app sleep for X minutes and then do something?17:01
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Nicd-what's the preferred way?17:01
Sfiet_KonstantinNicd-: do you need to be precise ?17:01
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Sfiet_KonstantinNicd-: one sec17:01
Sfiet_KonstantinNicd-: what do you want to do ?17:01
Sfiet_Konstantinmaybe writing a daemon should help ?17:02
Nicd-my app should show system uptime. I want it to be refreshed with a user configurable interval in minutes17:02
Sfiet_KonstantinNicd-: ok17:04
Sfiet_Konstantinone sec17:04
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Luilufin_Have Jolla only mono-speaker?17:05
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Sfiet_KonstantinNicd-: don't seems that there is AlignedTimer :(17:08
Sfiet_KonstantinNicd-: so I dunno17:09
Nicd-but if my app refreshes once every minute max, it can't be that intensive?17:09
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ElleoJonni: would you mind seeing if this rpm build of cutespotify runs okay on the device?
GillyElleo: how did you get the SDK to make an rpm? or did you do it by hand somehow? I'm in the same situation as you a while back.17:40
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jake9xxGilly: what's the problem? If arm sysroot selection, select deploy method arm from qtc and say 'deploy' - it's a bug17:42
ElleoGilly: I basically ended up sshing into the mersdk vm and running 'mb2 -t SailfishOS-armv7hl rpm' manually17:42
Elleojake9xx: when buidling for arm QTC it says the deploy method isn't supported17:43
jake9xxah, you mean to deploy rpm to device from qt creator?17:44
Gillyahh.. it works if you deploy from the menu17:44
jake9xxit's coming in next update, we're testing it atm17:44
Elleooh I see17:44
Elleojake9xx: sorry, misunderstood what you meant17:44
Gillythanks :)17:44
jake9xxQtCreator is not _yet_ built to make packaging, but it's getting there17:44
Elleodidn't realise you could run deploy from the qtc menu and have it work, I always tried via the big "play" button17:44
jake9xxGilly: HTH17:44
Elleothat makes life a bit easier :)17:45
jake9xxElleo: been on that route myself :)17:45
Nicd-my code builds fine. I have no idea why17:45
jake9xxNicd-: can I have that on t-shirt ? :)17:45
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jake9xxElleo: the 'Play' approach is exactly qmake->make->make install flow. QtCreator does not play ball with *any* packaging out of the box, our SDK is a major step to that direction. If device scp/rsync would work out the box, the 'Play' icon stuff would work - just like in harmattan17:47
Elleoyeah, it'll be nice when that works17:48
Elleoalthough I don't currently have anything to deploy *to* so just getting rpms out of it is enough for me17:48
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piggzyay, reset root password by using the mount alt_os option then over-writing sections of the shadow file :)17:49
Nicd-I love seeing all the hacking that is going on17:50
Nicd-people installing google play, playing gta3, hacking the OS internals...17:50
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jake9xxyeah, and as we get more devices that run SailfishOS out there.. the hacking effort will be even bigger!17:51
piggzhowever, this isnt getting me publishing a game on bb world!!17:51
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locusfElleo: the program doesn't start on the device17:52
vgradepiggz: what patterns have you installed, I have jolla-ui-wayland, jolla-mw still to get apps in17:52
piggzvgrade: yes, pretty much that17:52
piggzhaving troubles atm getting past the 'no sim inserted] screen ... seems to not be responding17:53
vgradeam past that ,
piggzi was past it, but i think installing something has broken it17:54
locusfjolla store open wtf17:54
vgradeyea seems some package gets installed which resets repos17:54
locusfI didn't know it was installable via the armv7hl sdk binaries17:54
vgradelocusf: these are the device repos17:55
locusfvgrade: ah !17:55
locusfknew it lol :p17:55
locusfnot really17:55
jake9xxtechcruch <3
piggzvgrade: have you figured out how to use the jollamobile repos?17:58
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vgradepiggz: I think they are from the Jolla OBS and need credentials18:01
piggzyeah, i wondered if that was the same as the store credential ... i seem to have a store account but cant remember the password18:02
Luilufin_cutespotify not work o.o18:03
Nicd-I found out why it built without errors18:03
Luilufin_It not start18:03
Nicd-I was editing my project but building componentgallery18:03
* Stskeeps offers condolences to Nicd- 18:03
jake9xxpiggz: what does ssu domain tell you?18:03
Nicd-and this wasn't the first time18:04
jake9xxNicd-: "set as default" in QtCreator ?18:04
piggzjake9xx: sales18:04
Nicd-jake9xx: huh?18:04
jake9xxNicd-: QtC builds the default project when you click 'play' ; your project needs to be that. Hover on your .pro file, right click & voilá18:05
Elleolocusf, Luilufin_: if you run from the terminal do you get any error messages?18:05
Elleoalso try /usr/bin/CuteSpotify --debug for extra info18:05
Nicd-jake9xx: do you mean active project?18:05
Luilufin_nothing :D18:06
jake9xxNicd-: yes, set as active... yes. My QtC currently is in Finnish ;)18:06
Luilufin_[nemo@localhost ~]$ /usr/bin/CuteSpotify --debug [nemo@localhost ~]$ /usr/bin/CuteSpotify [nemo@localhost ~]$18:06
jake9xxsimultaneous translation failure18:06
Nicd-jake9xx: yeah, it builds now18:06
artemmaSend HelloWorld Pro to Mailing List18:07
ElleoJonni: when you built an earlier version on your device what build of libspotify did you use? the armv7 one?18:07
artemmano more trouble for people with getting anymore hopefully18:07
artemmaWizard for renaming into your desired project name included18:07
artemmaSent* Helloworld Pro to mailing list18:08
lbtI pulled this together with my "community" hat on:  feel free to correct it. I do know it will likely be invalid for the next SDK update18:13
lbtessentially it documents how to deploy rpms to a device18:14
lbtwould be great to check it's clear enough and then maybe share it when it's verified by someone18:14
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locusflbt: I can take a look now18:16
lbtcool - I'm looking to try helloworld-pro18:16
piggzwow, fixed it ... mixed in qt5-qtdeclarative from the unfreeze repo ... sailfish frankenstein18:18
locusflbt: export IP= ?18:19
lbtshouldn't need exporting :)18:20
piggzdeveloper mode settings page also working :)18:20
lbtthat simply makes it available to subprocesses - it's only used as direct shell substitution here18:20
locusfoh ok, didn't know that18:22
locusflbt: works ok18:24
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jake9xxpiggz: camera?18:25
piggzjake9xx: doesnt work18:27
Elleothere aren't any restrictions on where programs can write on the device that don't exist on the emulator are there?18:28
Elleono containment or anything going on?18:29
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Nicd-I'm connecting a signal from my QML side to a C++ class in my main(), but it says the component is not ready. how should I wait for it to get ready?18:33
jake9xxNicd-: onCompleted is signalled when a component is ready18:34
Nicd-jake9xx: how do I connect to that?18:38
Nicd-because QObject::connect() complains that it's not ready18:38
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jake9xxNicd-: how do you intatiate that item that creates your c++ class?18:38
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Nicd-jake9xx: I'm following this: but I'm using SailfishApp::createView(); to get the view18:40
jake9xxwhat you could do is to put that into main qml18:41
jake9xxthe Item creation, that is18:41
jake9xxthp: ^ you've got any comments?18:42
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Nicd-well since I'm using createView() and then getting rootObject(), won't that just get the ApplicationWindow in my main qml?18:45
piggzvgrade: so, im pretty happy that it is basically working ... would like the other repos to work eventually .. how are you getting on?18:47
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Elleolocusf, Luilufin_: could you give this version a try and see if it gets any further?
Elleothanks :)18:54
jake9xxlocusf: did you get gdb + strace already?18:54
locusfjake9xx: not yet will do in a moment18:55
jake9xxI've got 'em - can try it as well18:55
piggzi guess i should test my sailfish owncloud news client18:55
locusfjake9xx: no strace available18:56
locusfeven though mer-tools is enabled18:57
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jake9xxlocusf: pkcon refresh18:57
locusfdid that too18:57
jake9xxElleo: ui came up18:58
locusfElleo: runs now but I don't have spotify premium18:58
Elleoawesome, thanks18:58
jake9xxlogging in...18:58
jake9xxsees the songs18:59
Elleogood :)18:59
jake9xxno audio heard18:59
Elleooh :/18:59
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Elleojake9xx: is qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-audio-pulseaudio installed? it should be a dependency but I might have messed that up (pretty new to rpm packaging)19:00
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Elleonot sure what could be up then :/19:02
ElleoI assume your volume's turned up? :P19:02
jake9xxshould be, I can hear other sounds :)19:03
Nicd-man, I can't seem to connect any signals, always "component is not ready"19:03
Elleojake9xx: does the cover work for switch between songs and play/pause?19:03
jake9xxElleo: yes19:04
Luilufin_Elleo: yes, this works19:04
ElleoLuilufin_: with sound?19:04
Luilufin_it started, i dont know anything else yet :D19:04
Luilufin_Not, app closed after I press login.19:05
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Luilufin_umm, when i started app via ssh I can login and now i see my playlists19:07
vgradepiggz: need to install apps19:07
jake9xxElleo: trying again - after reboot19:07
vgradepiggz: out tonight so may get a chance tomorrow19:07
Luilufin_but, graphics are freeze.19:07
ElleoI think it'll just have to wait until I have a device myself to poke around with19:08
Luilufin_this is weird19:08
Morpog_Jolla definately needs a developer program :)19:08
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Luilufin_now i can click song but, song lost 1sec after click it.19:08
Morpog_But not like it was done with N950s, which almost no real dev had...19:08
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piggzLuilufin_: what do you mean freeze?19:09
Luilufin_Login scrreen was freeze, I can write, butt i dont see anything on screen19:09
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Luilufin_ou, now it works, very weird19:10
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Luilufin_now only problem is that: playback not work19:11
jake9xxElleo: no sounds still. I have another device @work so can test more on monday19:11
Luilufin_I can view my playlistes but not play anything19:11
Elleoyeah, not much I can do to debug it remotely unfortunately, since it works fine in the emulator19:12
jake9xxElleo: must be something missing in run-timepart..19:13
jake9xxMSameer: ^19:13
Elleoalthough if anyone fancies fixing it for me the code's all here: :P19:13
Elleojake9xx: yeah, I had this problem on the emulator and MSameer managed to track it down to qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-audio-pulseaudio being necessary for qaudiooutput to work19:14
Elleono clue what else might be missing though19:14
Luilufin_debug-log when i try play song19:14
ElleoLuilufin_: thanks, that's basically showing that qaudiooutput isn't working19:14
Elleoit's not presenting any devices19:14
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Elleowhich I thought we'd fixed by adding in qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-audio-pulseaudio (solved it in the emulator)19:14
ElleoI guess there's more to it on the device though19:15
Luilufin_I can do what you want.19:16
Elleounfortunately I don't know what to do :P19:16
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Elleothe only other qtmultimedia plugins I have on the emulator is: qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-resourcepolicy-resourceqt19:17
Elleois that installed on the device?19:17
Elleoalthough since I don't do anything with libresourceqt I wouldn't have thought that'd be it19:17
Elleounless qaudio does in the background19:17
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Luilufin_that is what jolla have by default19:21
Nicd-I'm trying a different approach. this builds fine but results in a white screen when the app is run:
ElleoLuilufin_: yeah that lists the resourceqt plugin, and the qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-audio-pulseaudio should have been installed as a dependency of cutespotify when you installed that19:21
Elleoso I have no clue what else might be missing19:22
Elleojust have to hope MSameer shows up and saves the day ;)19:22
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Nicd-dammit, does someone have an example of how they call C++ from QML?19:23
Nicd-in a sailfish app19:23
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piggzNicd-: the same as any other qml app...19:26
piggzcreate a context property with some slots, and just call them19:27
jake9xxNicd-: c++ item needs to have the Q_PROPERTY definitions in it's class, then they are exposed to QML. Then you need to register the qmlType that you're using in f.ex main.cpp and then you use that object name in item declaration in qml19:28
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saildevi think that i've screwed things up a big time19:37
* jake9xx offers comfy coach - what's up?19:38
saildevanyone knows how i'm able to revive files from ~/SailfishOS directory after whole Sailfish SDK has been uninstalled? :/19:38
jake9xxsaildev: windows?19:38
jake9xxundelete on ext4.. hmm19:38
saildevi used to use a different location for my projects but for some reason last time i forgot to change the path19:38
saildevnow when i had to reinstall sailfish sdk i completely forgot it and i have my backups of my files from about 3 weeks a go19:39
saildevand i have done some changes since then19:39
saildevi've tried to search the answer for like 3 hours now19:40
FabianSMake backups.19:40
saildevusually i do, actually19:40
FabianSUndeleting on ext4 is hard.19:40
saildevbut i haven't stayed in home for 4 weeks now19:40
saildevwhere i have my another hard drive19:41
FabianSThat's why I do online backups.19:41
FabianSHave you triedt extundelete?19:41
jake9xxsaildev: for those items I've get a netsplit account + server19:42
saildevi know i know19:42
saildevbut aaargh19:42
saildevit's like once in a life time thing19:42
saildevand of course everything gets screwed up then19:42
jake9xxwhen it bites you, it bites you bad19:42
FabianSI save the important stuff to a NAS via duplicity.19:42
FabianSatomatically and daily.19:42
Luilufin_have Jolla stereo or mono-speakers?19:45
saildevi have a NAS at home as well19:45
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FabianSI use my university NAS account.19:46
tortoisedoc_a basic raid 0 nas (new) is about 200 bucks19:47
tortoisedoc_for example linkstation etc19:47
tortoisedoc_really usefull19:47
tortoisedoc_especially to store source :)19:48
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FabianSYou mean 1?19:48
Morpog_and who wants raid 0 on a NAS?19:48
jake9xxElleo: trying to dig into the issue, let's see19:49
Elleojake9xx: thanks :)19:49
saildevi think i found one already19:49
saildevdo you think this will work: extundelete --restore-directory19:49
FabianSThe university NAS is redundant, tape-backuped and located in a high security building.19:49
FabianSOh, and it has a 10 Gbit internet connection.19:49
nander10 GBit..19:50
nanderI only have 1 Gbit up and down at my place ;)19:51
nanderper sec19:51
jake9xxElleo: 19:47:13.981 E [file_streamer_simple.cpp:686] handleApErrorCode. Error 101. Timeout: 50019:51
jake9xxinteresting... going a bit deeper19:51
FabianSMy internet connection is usually Wifi limited :(19:51
FabianSWifi sucks hard.19:51
Elleojake9xx: if you run with --debug you'll see that qaudiooutput isn't returning any devices19:52
FabianSDon't get more than 20-30 Mbit in my flat.19:52
Elleojake9xx: here's a simple test case I wrote for this issue the other day:
nanderUniversity network xD19:52
Morpog_well, FabianS I'm limited here to about 3 Mbit....19:52
Morpog_that sucks19:53
FabianSI get 50/10 Mbit in my flat.19:53
Morpog_soon :)19:53
FabianSBut at my parent's place there's stupid 32/2 Mbit cable.19:53
FabianSWhich sucks.19:53
Morpog_a small comany is doing fiber connection for our small village :)19:53
Nicd-we're going to move from 100/100 to 100/5 and our ISP bill will quadruple :(19:53
Elleojake9xx: see around line 356 for the relevant output from Luilufin_'s earlier debug output:
FabianSMy VDSL has 100/100 capacity but all ISPs cap at 50/10 in Germany.19:54
FabianSDon't want people hosting stuff.19:54
nanderI have a 50 GB/week upload limit19:54
Morpog_they don't want me to enjoy surfing at all here in germany :D19:54
nanderOtherwise I may get an email19:54
jake9xxElleo: I'll try the test case first, when we have that working, we know QAudio works om19:54
Elleothe linked test case above basically does the same thing that section of cutespotify does and dumps out qaudio debug info when no qaudiooutput device is available19:55
Elleogreat :)19:55
FabianSMy VDSL is unlimited.19:56
FabianSWe once downloaded 11 TB in a month.19:56
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nanderI don't have a a download limit19:57
nanderAnd no internal upload limit either19:57
nanderI can share whatever I want with the rest of my university19:57
Luilufin_im sorry, my ssh was left to root19:57
Luilufin_but no sound on nemo also19:57
ElleoLuilufin_: okay19:58
Nicd-I DID IT19:58
Nicd-my QML calls a C++ function! thanks jake9xx <319:58
Luilufin_but player "play" music, i check debug now19:58
jake9xxNicd-: hth19:59
jake9xxLuilufin_: journalctl -fa ?20:00
Luilufin_Failed to create secure directory (/run/user/100000/pulse): Permission denied20:00
jake9xxas nemo?20:01
jake9xxbut that directory _does_ exist20:02
jake9xxat least on my device20:02
jake9xxrunning sales sw
FabianSUser 100k?20:02
FabianSUsually they start at 1000.20:03
FabianSDo you have 999000 users?20:03
StskeepsFabianS: the sad truth is that some idiot in android thought it'd be a good idea to hardcode their system and other uids to 1000-200020:03
Stskeepsand this goes into closed source binaries of hardware adaptation20:03
FabianSWell, Unix hardwires 0-1000.20:04
AardFabianS: no, it does not :)20:04
Luilufin_full debug log from start to CTRL^C20:04
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Luilufin_umm, are this right file o.o20:05
FabianS"Convention reserves UIDs from 1 to 100 for system use; some manuals recommend reserving UIDs from 101 up to 499 (Red Hat Enterprise Linux) or even up to 999 (Debian) as well."20:05
MSameerElleo: ping20:05
jake9xxElleo: found him ;)20:05
ElleoMSameer: pong :)20:06
StskeepsFabianS: reserved != hardcoded into libraries :P20:06
* MSameer just woke up20:06
AardFabianS: on a linux-system those ranges are definet in login.defs20:06
Luilufin_yes, this is right log from nemo user20:06
MSameerElleo: what's the problem? been trying to check the backlog but couldn't find it yet20:06
Luilufin_row 2215: Failed to create secure directory (/run/user/100000/pulse): Permission denied20:06
ElleoMSameer: basically we're running into a similar problem as before with qaudio not presenting any devices, but with qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-audio-pulseaudio already installed20:06
Luilufin_when runnig user nemo20:06
ElleoMSameer: everything works fine in the emulator, it's only on the device that we're hitting this20:06
MSameerElleo: does the test work?20:07
Elleojake9xx: ^ ?20:07
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ElleoMSameer: I don't have a device myself, so have been relying on the kindness of jake9xx and Luilufin_ to work through all these issues with me :)20:07
Luilufin_what happened now :D I can not run cutespotify from desktop20:08
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Luilufin_It closed automaticly20:08
MSameerElleo: that is strange. I verified it on the phone and it works20:08
MSameernot the release image but it should be the same20:08
MSameerElleo: how can I test that?20:08
Elleounless it was just because Luilufin_ was running as root that it wasn't getting qaudio devices and something else is wrong with the audio?20:09
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Stskeepsrunning as root isn't going to work nicely at least20:09
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ElleoMSameer: there's a compiled version of the overall app here: but it's only useful if you have a spotify premium account20:10
ElleoI'd be interested to hear what results jake9xx had running the test app20:10
MSameeri don;t have that unfortunately20:10
Elleoas he was also having audio problems and it'd clear up whether it's qaudio or not20:10
jake9xxElleo: I'm building it with next sdk's sysroot - and already fell into problems20:10
jake9xxfixing it it20:10
jake9xxit now20:10
* MSameer digs up the test case20:11
MSameeri guess we should wait for that then20:12
jake9xxElleo: need to remove '/usr/share/qaudiotest' from your yaml/spec as you don't have anything there20:13
jake9xxthen mb2 builds it fine20:13
Elleoah, sorry20:13
Elleoit was a pretty hastily hacked together test20:13
jake9xxfix that & give it to MSameer20:13
MSameergive me what?20:14
jake9xxthe test suite?20:14
FryeHmm, is there a way to specify tmp directory during sailfis sdk nstallation?20:15
ElleoI think MSameer already has a copy that should build from the other day20:15
StskeepsFrye: TMPDIR= ?20:15
FryeI'll try, --help did not print any hints20:15
MSameerjake9xx: if you can run the test then it'd be good to see the output20:15
MSameerjake9xx: on the hw20:15
jake9xxyes, need to package it better20:16
FryeStskeeps, nope, does not help20:16
FryeStill tries to use my too small /tmp20:16
MSameerjake9xx: scp :p20:16
StskeepsFrye: TMPDIR=/some-other-tmp20:17
Stskeepsas prefix to installer20:17
Fryeyeah, prefix was not enough20:18
Fryebut exporting TMPDIR did the trick20:18
Luilufin_I dont get this pulse-error after restart phone20:19
Luilufin_I dont see anything why music not give sound.20:20
jake9xxok, managed to compile qaudiotest... and it won't start on hw20:20
jake9xxdebugging that next20:20
Luilufin_ some log after press song20:20
jake9xxFile not found: /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/qaudiotest20:22
jake9xx[C] QPulseAudioEngine::QPulseAudioEngine:251 - "Connection failure: Access denied"20:22
jake9xxfor the record, I just love reliability of C&P in Unity...20:22
ElleoLuilufin_'s new log doesn't show errors with qaudio, so perhaps that was just because it was running as root then20:23
MSameerjake9xx: are you nemo user?20:23
jake9xxMSameer: good catch, wait a bit20:23
MSameerjake9xx: that's pa refusing the connection20:23
MSameerpa = pulseaudio20:23
jake9xxMissing separate debuginfo for /usr/lib/qt5/plugins/audio/libqtmedia_pulse.so20:23
jake9xxTry: zypper install -C "debuginfo(build-id)=5decacf9e6b1100b5108208f4a4dc2686bd4d0d4"20:23
jake9xxFailed to create secure directory (/run/user/100000/pulse): Permission denied20:23
jake9xx[W] QPulseAudioEngine::QPulseAudioEngine:221 - Unable to create a connection to the pulseaudio context20:23
jake9xxthat's with 'nemo20:23
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Elleoshould I be making some request for permissions to use pulse or anything?20:24
Elleonothing aegis-like I take it?20:24
MSameerElleo: no20:24
MSameerElleo: we don't have aegis ;)20:24
Elleothat's a relieft :P20:24
jake9xx/run/user/100000/pulse -> owned by root20:24
jake9xxdrwx------ 2 root root       100 2013-11-30 21:08 pulse20:24
* MSameer pokes jake9xx 20:24
Luilufin_jake9xx: reboot phone20:25
Luilufin_I get that also after running root and then nemo20:25
Luilufin_but after reboot it lose20:25
jake9xxbut other apps' sounds work20:25
Elleoare other apps going through pulse directly or through some higher level media service?20:25
MSameerjake9xx: newly launched?20:25
jake9xxmaybe another beer?20:26
MSameerthe best thing about porting declarative C++ code to Qt5 is you try s/Declarative/Quick/ and if it doesn't work then s/Quick/Qml/20:27
jake9xx[D] main:44 - Available devices:20:28
jake9xx[D] main:48 - "sink.primary"20:28
jake9xx[D] main:48 - "sink.null"20:28
jake9xx[D] main:48 - "sink.fake.sco"20:28
jake9xx[D] main:51 - Deafult output device:  "sink.primary"20:28
jake9xxthat's with the qaudiotest20:28
Elleoyeah, that's working20:28
jake9xxDaefault :)20:28
ElleoI think it was just that Luilufin_ was running as root that it didn't work before20:29
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Elleostill no clue why the audio isn't working though20:29
Luilufin_yes, it was it, because now audio "playing" but not give sound.20:29
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Elleothe fact that it stays playing would seem to suggest qaudio thinks the data is going somewhere fine20:35
AardElleo: you need to use resource policy. all audio streams not properly using audio resources are muted20:35
ElleoAard: ah, thanks20:36
Elleoare their docs on that somewhere? or does it just work identically to meego's libresourcepolicy?20:36
Aardit does20:36
Elleoand is there someway to get the emulator to behave the same way so I can see if I've got it right?20:36
AardI'm the wrong person to answer that one20:37
Elleook, no worries, you've been a big help :)20:37
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jake9xxElleo: it the src you have resource stuff is commented out20:39
jake9xxso just by enabling it might make it work20:39
nanderhmm, it seems my insert function doesn't work20:39
Elleojake9xx: yeah, I removed it when porting to ubuntu touch; so hopefully renabling it will sort everything20:39
jake9xxso they don't have resource policy? ;)20:40
MSameerElleo: if the audio is not producing sound then you need to use resource policy engine20:40
MSameerbut i believe this should be handled by qt itself but whatever20:41
jake9xxMSameer: like ?20:41
MSameerjake9xx: yes BUT it's not a supported store API20:42
Elleooh, so if I use it I can't distribute in the store?20:42
jake9xxno, it's another discussion20:42
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jake9xxanyway PDF outlining these: Meego-policy-framework-developer-guide.pdf is no longer available20:43 r.i.p.20:43
MSameerElleo: I assume you are using siloica?20:44
ElleoMSameer: for the qml components? yeah20:44
MSameerbut it's also not supported by store20:44
MSameerElleo: you can do it from QML20:45
ElleoMSameer: well I already have some old resource policy stuff from the meego version20:45
MSameerElleo: but you can consider bundling the module with your app20:45
MSameerElleo: then it's the same20:45
Luilufin_so difficulty :I20:46
Luilufin_where is one-click-app-creator : D20:46
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narchieplease someone20:47
narchiemake the first jolla fart app20:47
MSameeri have that for n900 :p20:47
narchieand make it have tons of in-app purchases20:47
MSameernever ported it to something else20:47
narchiethat's what we're missing20:47
MSameerand it was not me who wrote it20:48
MSameerit was my boss :P20:48
narchieafter that Jolla will have the international media right behind them20:48
Elleonarchie: you could make it so you have to pay £1/day to stop it making noises at random times20:48
narchieoh yes20:48
narchiecall it Jolla Fart PRO20:48
Skorpyoh wow. instant rimshot app with active cover.20:50
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saildevanyone knows what this mean: bash: /opt/sdk/harbour_yahtzee/usr/bin/harbour_yahtzee: cannot execute binary file20:50
saildevit happenes to all of my projects, no matter if i start a new one20:51
jake9xxsaildev: x86 and arm stuff mixed??20:51
jake9xxdo file /opt/sdk/harbour_yahtzee/usr/bin/harbour_yahtzee20:51
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saildevi'm so angry about this whole situation that i can't even think anymore20:53
saildevplus i'm tired20:54
saildevthere's a monkey inside my head that is just hitting a cymbals hard together and doing backflips20:54
saildevyou know, homer simpson effect?20:54
jake9xxyeah - go get some sleep20:55
jake9xxtomorrow things are usually worse ;)20:55
saildevbut if i do a fresh install for the whole sdk and i create a new project and instantly try to build it (either x86 or arm) it says the same20:55
saildevyes i know :D20:55
saildevtomorrow i'm even more pissed off :D20:55
saildevwhen i actually realize how much damage i've manage to create20:55
jake9xxElleo: doing another build?20:57
saildevi think i'll just let it be for a while and try to relax for a few day20:58
saildevi haven't had much sleep lately anyway so i think that's one thing why all this happened20:58
tortoisedoc_saildev : do not commit your code :P20:58
jake9xxgit stash *now* :)20:58
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saildevof course not!20:58
saildevi said just for a few day20:59
Gillysaildev: try touching your main.cpp, if you switch between x86 and arm, it might not recompile it and thus the binary might be incompatible20:59
Gilly(I was just having the same problem.)20:59
tortoisedoc_the best days are always when you wake up and take a look at code you wrote the day before and are like "wtf was I thinking?"20:59
Elleojake9xx: yeah, just restoring all the old resource policy stuff now20:59
jake9xxElleo: ok - ping when u need a test run21:00
Elleowill do, thanks :)21:00
nanderHow do I add another item to a SiliciaListView?21:00
jake9xxI'll be sippin' beer and watchin' nascar21:00
nanderAre you american?21:00
jake9xxof course not21:00
ajalkanenarchie: no kidding, having a fart app on Jolla would immediately surpass N9's ecosystem. I'll do it myself, with homegrown farts, if no one else steps up21:01
nanderand a laughing app ;)21:01
nanderWith 1000 different laughing sounds ;)21:01
nanderShall I start a topic on the maemo forums?21:01
nanderAsking for people to upload their laughs?21:01
ajalkaneDunno about that... I think fart app is more urgent.21:01
nanderOr ask them to record their farts ;)21:02
saildevgilly: what changes you made to main.cpp ?21:02
ajalkaneYeah the MaemoFarters app21:02
MSameerso what do people use instead of InfoBanner ?21:02
jake9xxdone on Qt ?21:02
Gillysaildev: I mean just rewrite it on the disk. make looks at modification times when it decides if it needs to rebuild something21:02
saildevi'll give it a try tomorrow21:06
saildevthanks for a hint gilly :)21:06
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Gillyno problem, hopefully it helps21:07
saildevjake9xx where you the one who adviced me with the 86x86 icon problem?21:07
saildevi need step in to arm via sb2 and modify the file to change the default path from 90x90 to 86x8621:08
saildevi lost that file too where i had it all listed in case i need it :/21:08
Elleojake9xx: <-- now has resource stuff in21:08
Luilufin_Fatal error: nothing provides needed by cutespotify-1.3.0-3.armv7hl21:10
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GillyI think you're having the same problem as saildev and I was having.21:10
jake9xxmake disclean21:10
jake9xxrm -rf obj ; rm -rf moc21:11
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Elleo (hopefully)21:14
Elleocool :)21:17
Luilufin_volume control not :D21:18
Luilufin_volume is full, else than phone was muted by volume ccontrol21:18
jake9xxmy device went nuts.. hmm21:18
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jake9xxElleo: works! same as with Luilufin_ - no volume ctrl21:20
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Elleoyeah, not sure what I need to do to hook in to volume stuff on sailfish; I guess the problem is that I'm coming in at a lower level than was otherwise anticipated21:21
ElleoI know meespot had some stuff with hwkeys implemented manually21:21
Elleomight see if those headers exist in sailfish21:22
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jake9xxor retrieve it from silica?21:22
Elleogood idea21:22
Elleoaha, looks like the old implementation did it via qmsystem which is available21:25
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ajalkaneIs there a Sailfish QML URI element, ie. a Label kind of thingy clickable that open the url? Not hard to do by oneself, but I'm interested if I'21:27
ajalkanem just missing it21:27
jake9xxm_webView ?21:28
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jake9xxlook at components gallery for 'web view' and see how you can pass item to it21:28
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jake9xxElleo: obiviously our internal mediaplayer is doing something(s) differently because they obey volume control ok... in fact I think your nice app does not retrieve the event due to reason X21:29
ajalkanejake9xx: if I understand correctly that's for viewing web-pages inside the application? I'm just looking at something simple that would open a web-page if clicked in the standard browser. Ie. for example for in About dialogt to get more information about the application21:30
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jake9xxajalkane: so to open browser instance?21:30
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ajalkanejake9xx: yes basically... I know I can do mousearea and Qt.openExternalUrl, but just wondering if there's reasy component21:31
ajalkane* ready21:31
ajalkaneI think the harmattan QML's Text area supported some sort of html subset that allowed such workings, but I might remember wrong21:32
nanderok, that example sucked.. It took me 3 hours to find out all that was wrong with it21:33
tortoisedoc_ajalkane : wasnt it extremely buggy?21:33
tortoisedoc_at least I remember having had LOTS of problems with the url's in harmattan's text21:34
ajalkanetortoisedoc_: might be... I don't remember the details anymore, I used it only for very simple stuff.21:35
Elleoaha, looks like the old implementation didn't actually use qmkeys for volume control21:35
Elleojust let you skip songs, pause songs, etc. by holding down the volume keys21:36
Elleoand supporting bluetooth keys21:36
ajalkaneAh, Sailfish's Label is inhereited from Qt5's Text which should support html tags. So I'll try that21:36
Elleoajalkane: you can certainly put links in labels, no idea if they work or not though, as the emulator doesn't have anything to launch them in21:37
ajalkaneElleo: ah right... forgot about that. Well, testing is for QA anyway :P21:38
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JonniElleo: arm6hf21:40
ElleoJonni: yeah, got that now, thanks :)21:40
Elleothink I ran into the same issue with the armv7 version not supporting hard float on ubuntu touch too now that I think about it21:41
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TumeezSaakos täällä puhua suomea?22:21
TumeezVai onko virallinen kieli englanti?22:21
Yanielpääasiassa käytetään englantia22:22
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TumeezOsaisko joku valaista millä tuon N9 :n 4% akkubugin sais taiottua pois?22:23
TumeezTiedän, ei kuulu Sailfishiin.22:24
jake9xxand should be in english22:24
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TumeezOverclocked CPU?23:09
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