Saturday, 2013-12-07

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artemmaLooking at emulator, clicks inside Wikipedia web frame are translated to clicks 60px lower (or whatever the height of SearchField is) :/01:49
artemmaAnybody with a real device here to verify?01:49
artemmaJust install Wikipedia app from app store and try clicking links inside web view (and click around them if links happen to be not clickable)01:50
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evaryontas an american, is there any way to get a Sailfish device?05:19
evaryontnot just a Jolla phone (cool as that would be) any ports, etc05:19
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wmarone__no ports yet, but possible05:27
evaryontthere are reports about a N9/N950 image floating around05:37
specialsome people have it running in n9/n950, yes06:10
smokexevaryont: #n950club06:35
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mike7b4_on_x230hi, folks time for me to try vgrade sailfish.ks file for n9 anyone else tried? :P09:40
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Stskeepsurl for the .ks?09:44
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faenilvgrade, didn't know you had the time setting problem, I have a fix for that (and probably other related issues), let me know when you're online10:54
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JutscoI'm quite rookie with Qt and QML and also Sailfish, but I would love to program with it. I have tried to search some instructions how to initiate function in QML from c++ function.11:11
rcgJutsco, you mean qml <-> c++ interaction?11:12
rcgJutsco, ^ is this what you are looking for?11:13
JutscoI think that might help, thx11:15
rcg^ and another example that also includes calling c++ methods from qml11:16
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rcgJutsco, yw, hth :)11:16
Jutscocurrently I'm trying do a such easy thing that update QML defined Label's text from c++11:17
sharpneliI've always thought that QML is some sort of XML horror and thus I've avoided it at all costs :D11:17
sharpneliMaybe I'll have to reassess my opinion.11:17
rcgJutsco, then you want to use Q_PROPERTY as shown in the first example11:17
Stskeepssharpneli: not xml at all11:18
Stskeepsyou should try it11:18
rcgwhen you implement the getter, setter and signal you get all the dynamic notification etc. out of the box11:18
sharpneliYeah I ust noticed that it's basically JS.11:18
rcgsharpneli, i second what Stskeeps said11:19
Stskeepsjson-y declarative plus js functions11:19
w00tRectangle { color: "white" Text { anchors.centerIn: parent text: "hello, world" } }11:19
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rcgw00t, you're missing a ';' between parent and text ;)11:22
rcgor is the whitespace enough?11:22
Jutscoihmo there is still quite big step to take when the programing to sailfish would be easy11:23
w00trcg: I've not tried it without newlines, but I'd think it would work11:23
w00tbah. doesn't :)11:23
rcgw00t, ic11:24
M4rtinKJutsco: that's what Python & thps PyOtherSide is for :)11:24
Jutscoreally? I just remembering those days when VB 6.0 and such of kind languages were hot :)11:26
rcgpersonally, i am very happy with qml and, when needed, the c++ interaction11:27
* lbt is loving QML too11:27
Aardlbt: not the kind of thoughts I needed for breakfast11:28
lbt{ text: "oh yeah, baby" }11:29
* lbt decides not to add the event handling ...11:29
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* w00t bonks lbt with a cover11:32
mike7b4_on_x230my n9 don't like sailfish hmm11:33
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locusfkontio: ping11:34
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faenilmike7b4_on_x230, systemd logs *are* binary, you have to read those using journalctl11:57
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FryeHmm, if I use pageStack.push to open a new page form .js file is there a way to pass a reference to the .js file itself without importing it.12:20
FryeIf I import it if will be a "fresh instance" And I don't have access to the game data generated.12:21
w00tread up on .pragma library (
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Fryety, I'm going thorugh the parameter passing atm. I'll check that too.12:23
FryeJust playing around with the qt5 example game Samegame12:24
* Aard is surprised to see Frye still on irc :p12:24
FryeBut I want it to look native and add some stuff12:24
FryeAard, My wife has the car. She was supposed to be at home by now. I'm all ready to go the minute she arrives.12:24
FryeIf I get to leave in 10 mins I'll still be there on time :D12:24
Nicd-wish I could be there :P12:25
* Aard just finished breakfast12:25
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FireFlyAard: how did you know they weren't IRCing from their Jolla? :p12:28
FryeHe knows I'm driving to town =)12:29
FryeOk, car is here now. I'll take off. See you Aard in 30 mins.12:30
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fk_lxVenemo: hi12:38
Venemohey fk_lx :)12:38
rcgcool, just followed the guide by vgrade for install sailfish on n950 :)12:45
rcgworks pretty well, except for the known issues12:45
rcgthis might actually get me started to do the last touches on my first app and finally get these into harbour :)12:46
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vgradefaenil: \o12:53
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rcghmm, doesn't come back after reboot12:58
rcgstuck on black screen12:58
vgradesometimes happens13:00
rcgvgrade, should i reflash to fix that?13:02
faenilvgrade, o/13:03
vgradercg: sometimes comes back with reboot13:04
vgradefaenil: mornign13:04
rcgvgrade, i see. well, i tried 5 times without success. so, going with the reflash option now ;)13:05
vgradercg: well it does with my latest ks13:08
vgradefaenil: you mentioned time setting fix13:08
faenilvgrade, yeah, it's about caps13:08
vgradeI see an issue during image creation and caps13:09
faenilvgrade, check your /usr/lib/oneshot.d folder13:09
faenilyeah, but I guess also the others will be useful? as I think those are probably never run in your case?13:11
faenilwell, not all of them are compatible with n950 maybe :)13:11
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faenilfor instance you don't have btrfs, you have a diff fb orientation13:12
vgradeyea I saw some code reading time from msm....13:13
faenilhth ;)13:14
vgradefaenil: thanks13:14
lbtPSA : there's an experimental target for sailfishos on Mer OBS.13:23
vgradehi lbt13:25
lbtvgrade: hey13:25
lbtI see you've been having fun :)13:26
vgradetried to download your screenshot from store on my nemofish13:26
lbtany luck ?13:26
vgradegood to see a SF target on OBS13:26
lbtzypper it from if you like13:27
lbtlets see if there is the same interest in a public builder as there was for harmattan13:27
lbtit may be a way to support an OSS repo/store13:27
vgradeno but have other things to do.  the essential jolla apps came down except maps, exchange and dalvik. but all other apps failed13:28
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tbrlbt: so, when do we establish the community project based on that? :)13:33
fk_lxtbr: +113:33
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DrIDKsorry..wrong window15:30
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lbtahiemstra note that BuildRequires:  pkgconfig(Qt5Core)  is not the right way to do it in yaml15:37
lbtuse:  PkgConfigBR: -Qt5Core15:38
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zuhpeppelakappa: JSON.parse(jsonStr) is probably what you are looking for16:20
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peppelakappazuh: it's a qml function, right?16:21
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peppelakappa"SailfishOS Emulator: Server rejected key." what is this?16:25
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peppelakappai was installing my sdk into a non-standard directory, following the standard installation path worked16:45
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tortoisedoc_what could be a reason for QPluginLoader::instance() to return always 0?17:10
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tortoisedoc_i cant seem to get my infoObject :(17:11
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mike7b4_on_x230gointg nuts. Howto tell tell yaml/spec file to install  myjavascript files locate in my $PROJDIR/js ?17:14
tortoisedoc_mike : add them in .pro file wiht INSTALL17:14
tortoisedoc_yaml will automatically (and intelligently) autoupdate itself17:15
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tortoisedoc_I have even added a json file17:17
tortoisedoc_but still no luck17:17
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tortoisedoc_any help greatly appreciated, here the debug output :
lbtmike7b4_on_x230: the yaml/spec files are for making the rpm; the .pro file is to compile17:20
lbtQtCreator *should* update the yaml with files it installs17:20
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mike7b4_on_x230lbt, tortoisedoc_: well I thougt I had to tweek yaml file manually to get it to install. because there where no INSTALL = qml in pro file but that dir was still installed without problem. But now I added js.path and INSTALL+=js in pro file and it FINALLY worked thanks17:28
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lbtmike7b4_on_x230: that's good - and I think, as expected17:29
tortoisedoc_lbt : but not mentioned anywhere :P17:29
lbttortoisedoc_: well, looking at your nick I'm guessing you're not the quickest at getting docs out either :P17:29
lbtI do agree though - I stumbled over that area myself17:30
lbtthere's a community documentation effort starting up17:30
tortoisedoc_lbt : I do like slow work at source level :P17:31
tortoisedoc_so no need for docs :D17:31
tortoisedoc_although in my transfer ui plugin, it seems not even source code is enough :(17:31
lbtI think it would help if our template were documented better; it was when it was first put together17:32
tortoisedoc_lbt : indeed, toolset is so different for example from harmattan17:33
tortoisedoc_or symbian17:33
tortoisedoc_and qtcreator + rpm is kind of new as well no?17:34
lbtit comes from decisions made for MeeGo17:34
lbtthe cost of change is non-zero and the benefit would be fairly low17:35
lbtthe idea was to have QtC drive a yaml file in the simple case; essentially not really need to know rpm stuff17:35
lbtbut to permit access to the spec file for full-on advanced usage17:36
tortoisedoc_hmm right17:36
smokexI thought he was a vcs technician i.e. a doctor for the all the crap the tortoise apps use17:36
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tortoisedoc_sailfish is overwriting meego memories already  :D17:37
lbtwell, meego is long gone17:37
lbtit's all Mer nowadays17:37
tortoisedoc_smokex a vcs?17:38
smokexversion control system17:38
lbtand that's where most of the tooling work is done17:38
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tortoisedoc_seems to me mer has most stuff from maemo than meego17:39
lbt? such as?17:39
smokexthe ui17:40
smokex.deb files17:40
smokexvs rpm17:40
Stskeepsyou guys are stuck in the past :)17:40
Stskeepsthat's ooold mer, pre-meego17:40
valdur55Nice UA : "Mozilla/5.0 (Maemo; Linux; U; Jolla; Sailfish; Mobile; rv:26.0) Gecko/26.0 Firefox/26.0 SailfishBrowser/1.0 like Safari/538.1"17:40
Stskeepsmer is rpm, has no ui17:40
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lbtI was kinda wondering about that :)17:41
mike7b4_on_x230hmm trying to install my apop on my sailfish enabled n9, but it fails with: Fatal error: nothing provides  actually I also got that error when upload to the store for some weeks ago?17:42
lbtmike7b4_on_x230: that got put in the download repo today - was missing by mistake I think17:42
valdur55Damn.- i  messed with simple framerate shower17:44
mike7b4_on_x230zypper ar URL?17:45
smokexzypper ref17:45
lbtyep - ref should be enough17:45
lbtit was in the repomd.xml (manifest) but 404 on the mirrors17:46
smokexhas that text completion thing been removed from the patterns yet17:46
mike7b4_on_x230Oh crap no I get those SSL errors again "Error message: SSL certificate problem: certificate is not yet valid"17:47
valdur55 Wrong date17:47
mike7b4_on_x230valdur55: argh :P17:47
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tortoisedoc_valdur55 : noticed the same, old maemo (nokia) stuff keeps popping up here and there :P18:03
tortoisedoc_f*ck this plugin system18:03
tortoisedoc_Stskeeps : I thought mer came from meego?18:05
tortoisedoc_MER = MEego Reloaded or something :P18:05
lbtoriginally Maemo Reloaded18:05
tortoisedoc_lbt : yeah I noticed that page the day after I bought my n918:08
tortoisedoc_too late :/18:08
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locusfI remember trying Mer on my N81018:09
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tortoisedoc_can a N810 run mer?18:10
locusfthe old mer, sure18:10
locusffrom minisd too18:10
lbtjust don't ask for any support :)18:10
tortoisedoc_luckily I do not own a n810 :P18:10
tortoisedoc_lbt : that mer vm deploy to device trick you posted, does the ssh-copy-id not work? (of course I have not tried it myself :D )18:13
lbtit should work fine - it's all just linux. I'm not sure if that script is available on all distros though18:14
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zuhHm, does the SDK contain anything to profile network usage?19:01
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plk34how can i parse a small json file within qml?19:13
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tortoisedoc_zuh: mer should have something for that19:38
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tortoisedoc_QT_MOC_EXPORT_PLUGIN(Testshare, Testshare)19:42
tortoisedoc_this is here19:42
tortoisedoc_(as in where it is supposed to be, in the moc-code)19:42
tortoisedoc_why is this not properly seen by the loader hmm19:43
FryeOk, Family fed and relatives taken to train. Now it's time for learning more UI stuff.. or not.19:45
FryeWife seems to demand attention. So maybe a few hours of brain idle cycles with a movie.19:45
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tortoisedoc_found the reason! :)20:03
tortoisedoc_^^ yeey20:03
tortoisedoc_sad thing is20:03
tortoisedoc_still no transfer in the plugin ui to : |20:03
tortoisedoc_still no plugin in the transfer ui20:04
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tortoisedoc_ah btw20:06
tortoisedoc_the clock on my device jitters terribly :D20:06
tortoisedoc_i need to update it once a day20:06
tortoisedoc_but now20:06
tortoisedoc_to bed20:06
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plk32got black screen on the sailfish emulator... great :|22:17
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stephgyou can wake that up with the host key22:17
stephgoff the top of my head I don't remember what the shortcut is22:18
stephgmight be altgr h22:18
stephgplk32 ^^22:18
plk32stephg: the problem is: when i turn it on, virtualbox stays on a black screen22:19
plk32if i start it up from virtualbox "standard", sailfish boots up but no pointer comes up22:19
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stephgwhat have you done ;)22:19
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plk32stephg: nothing special, just shut it down as usual a couple hours ago :-/22:20
stephgdo you get fragments of dmesg out put22:20
stephgand can you ping it/ssh into it?22:20
stephg(by fragments I mean, some boot output before wayland starts)22:21
merlin1991also host key is right ctrl ;)22:21
plk32stephg: with standard virtualbox i can get into the lockscreen, so just a moment and i'll post it22:21
stephgmerlin1991 I knew it was somewhere down there on the right!22:21
plk32some kind of magic: by restarting qtcreator now boots up fine, but no pointer at all22:23
stephgby no pointer you mean it doesn't have the big circle thingy, or you mean you literally have no pointing device in the vm at all22:23
plk32also, my cpu doesn't have VT-x, it's strictly needed?22:24
plk32stephg: the big circle thingy lol22:24
stephgplk32 don't think so re: the hardware accel22:24
stephgused to be 'required' way back when with meego but probably not any more22:24
plk32good, but i surely need a new cpu, this core2duo it's way too slow to develop on22:25
plk32what port does the emulator uses for ssh?22:25
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stephgeither 2222 or 222322:26
stephgone is the sdk, the other, the emulator22:26
stephgI forget which way round22:26
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plk32it's 222322:27
stephgin the emulator window22:28
stephgthe Machine menu22:28
stephgis 'Disable mouse integration' greyed out?22:28
stephgenable/disable that?22:30
stephg(it is in my emulator)22:30
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plk32nothing changes :-/22:30
plk32maybe some service isn't running?22:30
stephgwell was a shot in the dark22:30
plk32got this in dmesg22:31
plk32lipstick.service isn't running22:31
stephgthink that's normal22:32
stephgseems to be dead on mine22:32
stephglisten is bedtime here, so sorry to leave you. good luck!22:32
plk32goodnight :)22:33
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peppelakappafinally resolved, i think i found a (weird) workaround22:50
peppelakappaif when the emulator starts you don't have the pointer thingy, try to start it from virtualbox and then stop from qtcreator22:50
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