Tuesday, 2013-12-17

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MFaro-TusinoTo anyone who is around: What exactly does this hotfix ( change? I know its store related, but I was wondering if I could find out specifics?00:21
MFaro-Tusino(For the N9/50 ports)00:21
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Yanielsee 8 lines above00:22
MFaro-TusinoYaniel: Doesn't answer my question at all00:24
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AardMFaro-Tusino: https://github.com/nemomobile/ssu/commit/205984f73a81d16f542ff7f12e7833f926044f5000:25
MFaro-TusinoThanks aard :)00:26
MFaro-TusinoEXATCLY what I wanted00:26
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faenilMFaro-Tusino, :)00:32
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coderusMSameer: ping07:47
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jake9xxSDK will be updated today: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2013-December/001824.html08:00
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ericccgood  news08:04
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ericccjake9xx:   are you  in  jolla?08:06
ericccwork  for  jolla08:07
jake9xxericcc: yes08:07
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ericcccan  you  make  it  better for html  http://merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos/08:08
faeniltbr, ^08:08
ericccit  is  only  xxx.log,not  html  .i  look  so indigestibility08:08
jake9xxericcc: merproject.org servers are not operated nor owned by Jolla08:09
jake9xxericcc: so I cannot help you on the irclogs, sorry :/08:09
ericcccan you  suggest they change it08:09
ericcc merproject team08:09
jake9xxericcc: I'm sure your suggestion is as good as mine08:10
jake9xxif you see, faenil is already pointing this out to tbr08:10
ericccgood  guys :)08:10
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ericccwhat  is  the  tbr  ?08:12
kaltsihe's a guy.. a nickname like "ericcc" :)08:13
stephgit's a person here08:13
stephgcan anyone with a real device validate a bug for me with the clock app?08:13
raa70can you tell what the bug is?08:13
stephgsetting the alarm appears to add an hour to the displayed time of the alarm08:15
stephgif you set say 5:50am, it'll display 6:50am, but actually go off at 5:5008:15
pp_hmn, nope08:15
raa70I haven't got that problem08:15
stephgis easy to replicate08:15
pp_alarms do seem to work08:16
raa70i believe ppl in UK are mostly suffering of that08:16
stephgyeah it may be a tz thing08:16
pp_don't seem to be able to remove them08:16
stephgjust long press them pp_08:16
pp_timezone utc vs bst?08:16
tbrericcc: I am _the_ tbr ;)08:16
stephgand you can delete08:16
stephgpp_ could be, but .uk now in GMT08:16
pp_ah :-) Didn't press long enough08:16
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ericcctbr hello   good  guys08:17
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pp_yep, reproduced with Europe/London08:23
pp_Dublin is buggy, Paris works :-)08:26
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pp_and lisbon too, so must be a GMT+0 bug08:27
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stephgpp_ cool thanks08:28
fsf-freeWelcome to ##fsf-free, a channel for discussion of all free software and Internet freedom related things! :-)08:29
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pp_yep, even new york works :-)08:29
stephg^ any sailors that can look at the internal tracker for the alarm, I'd email care@ but I imagine they're kinda busy right now08:29
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ericcctbr: i had  send  you  messgae08:30
Stskeepsare you on
stephgwas on 10, now on 1208:30
tbrericcc: yes, yes, just arrived at the office. I'll do it soon™.08:31
tbrjust need to find my private key for mer infra and remember the password ;)08:32
MMxtbr: hm?08:32
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* MMx hasn't opened the parcel yet, but it is sitting right here :D08:33
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tbrMMx: do it! do it! do it!08:34
MMxbut I am already wearing the IAmTheFirstOne-Tshirt08:34
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MMxtbr: actually, I am waiting for Albert to arrive at the office, for sharing the unboxing experience08:35
tbrhe didn't order one of his own?08:36
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pp_stephg: workaround: use 12h clock :D08:45
pp_(started poking around the qml files of the clock :-) )08:45
stephgreally pp_ ?08:46
stephgexcellent :)08:46
pp_      if (timeFormatConfig.value === "24") {08:46
pp_                return Format.formatDate(time, Format.TimeValueTwentyFourHours)08:46
pp_            }08:46
pp_I think it goes wrong there (for whatever reason)08:47
pp_... continues with08:47
pp_else { // this is retarded, yay for qt and js time formatting options08:47
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ln-why does the wikipedia app implement its own language selection rather than use the system's language?08:52
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artemmaln-: because it's a choice of a Wikipedia edition used, not the language08:53
artemmadefault lang choice should be coming from the system though08:54
ln-oh, that makes sense.08:54
ln-hmm, i chose spanish, and still get results in english.08:56
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MMxtbr: he just bought a Nx4...09:12
MMxbtw, unboxing now complete :]09:13
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tbrMMx: hehe :)09:18
MMxtbr: is it possible that IEEE802.1X WiFi authentication is not supported yet?09:25
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cvpspecial you are here ?09:28
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tbrMMx: certainly no ui09:30
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tbrMMx: you might be able to wire things under the hood™ in connman09:30
MMxtbr: darn... so I cannot get online to update the system09:31
MMxnever had to do that so far09:31
tbrMMx: ask albert to open a mobile hotspot on his nx4? or is his subscription not a data flat? ;)09:32
MMxno, not anymore09:33
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MMxtbr: but maybe I can setup a rouge hotspot...09:33
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jake9xxok, for earlybirders - sdk update was just released to live server, if your QtCreator does not pick it up - please restart it09:45
* MMx buckles up and hits "install update now" (on his freshly unboxed Jolla)09:52
PnuuI still have a update (downgrade) to .10 available09:53
Pnuudoesn do anything if I select it, though09:53
Pnuuok, now it started to download when I selected update from device info09:54
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Pnuuand now: update available :-D09:58
Pnuuback to .1209:58
cvpnice ;)10:00
sremesshould the update be available for everybody, or are they deploying it kind of randomly?10:00
Fryejake9xx, Could not download meta information for component: org.merproject.tools. Error: Bad hash.10:00
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FryeWonder if I'm trying to update on right place :D10:01
Pnuusremes: they are available simultaneously for everyone10:02
Pnuusremes: go to system settings -> device info and from pulley "check for updates"10:02
sremesPnuu: I did, and it keeps saying "Up to date"10:03
FryeAh, now it's loading10:04
Pnuusremes: which version are you running now?10:04
Pnuu.10 or .12?10:04
jake9xxFrye: something went wrong, we ae looking at it now10:04
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jake9xxok.. should be soon good10:07
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FryeBtw a cool feature would be to have a setting for disabling screen lock while connected via USB in developer mode.10:12
leinirthis would be super-useful, yes10:13
leinirwell, or not even for developers, just an option to turn off the screen auto lock when plugged in in general10:14
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jake9xxok dear sailor/sailorettes. There was a little clitch when stuff was pushed to live server and after that caches of our ISP's systems need to be refreshed. Error itself is now fixed on releases.sailfishos.org/sdk but it just takes time until caches are all up-to-date10:18
jake9xxSorry for the inconvenience.10:19
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FryeI don't mind. More time to play with my Joll *krhm* get some work done.10:25
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hene-Jonni, online? :)10:29
Jonnino :)10:29
hene-sorry for interrupting your idling but10:30
hene-could you at the some point polish Sandbox UI? :)10:30
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hene-maybe a little larger fonts and margins? and also created date -info for files10:31
Jonniyou mean sailbox I presume? :)10:32
hene-for example I take picture with my Jolla and then want to throw it to dropbox - would be nice to see when file is created10:32
hene-oh, sorry :D yes, sailbox10:32
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jake9xxok, releases.sailfishos.org/sdk is back online10:41
jake9xxif there are further problems ; ping us :)10:41
pizzulicchiogood day!10:43
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pizzulicchioi have just opened the box of my jolla phone! :-)10:43
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pizzulicchiover very nice10:44
hene-pizzulicchio, congrats!10:44
pizzulicchioare avaiable some settings into the gui for the NFC features ?10:45
Fryejake9xx, working perfectly now.10:46
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jake9xxFrye: great!10:50
FryeBtw, if someone wants to alpha test same game for Jolla drop me a pm.10:51
FryeIt's should be ready for harbour bit later. But I'd like some feedback before that.10:52
kaltsidid you notice there's a "same game" tutorial project in the 1312 sdk..10:52
FryeIt's based on that remotely10:52
kaltsiok :)10:53
Fryebut the graphics & ui are different and there is quite a bit of additional stuff too10:53
FryeBut yes it's just a learning experience10:53
FryeAt least my kids like to play it :D10:55
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whippleris there a way to push another app cover from a page...11:20
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jwalckG'day everyone. My Jolla arived yesterday, finally!11:22
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PnuuFatal error: Download (curl) error for 'https://releases.jolla.com/jolla-apps/':11:29
PnuuError code: Unrecognized error11:29
PnuuError message: Unknown SSL protocol error in connection to releases.jolla.com:44311:29
Pnuuwhile trying to refresh package list on the phone11:30
Stskeepsphaeron: ^^^^^11:30
phaeronPnuu: is your system time correct ?11:30
phaeronthat is time on phone11:31
Pnuuphaeron: seems to be ~3 minutes late11:31
phaeronPnuu: shouldn't be much of a problem , but you can fix it , just in case ?11:32
Pnuuyup, I put the automatic timekeeping on11:32
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Pnuunow it worked :-)11:36
Pnuucould be something related to mobile web connection or something11:36
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phaeronPnuu: either bad cdn node , or with picky https ..11:38
phaeronanyway, good that it works11:38
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Pnuuare there any plans for qt bindings for python?11:46
Pnuuthere's pyotherside available from some non-default repositories, but that is for python 3.311:46
Pnuuand I'd prefer to install from the default repos :-)11:47
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pp_sort of pondering the same, see: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2013-December/001805.html11:53
pp_so 3.3 + pyotherside seems to way to go?11:53
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Pnuuthere's two new things for me, python3 (shouldn't be a biggie) and gui bulding :-D11:57
pp_python3 is mostly adding ()'s to print :P12:00
pp_and unicode having sanity12:00
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leszekcan someone give me a code example on howto get the sailfish app back to fullscreen after selecting a coveraction12:15
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MSameercoderus: pong12:19
whipplerhow do i change a cover from a page?12:20
jake9xxwhippler: app-wise or user-wise?12:20
whipplerapp wise in code12:20
Wntwhippler: take a look at the component gallery source code12:21
jake9xxWnt: +1  ;and it's good to explore the SDK (esp. 1312) as there's lot of useful code already to study12:22
coderusMSameer: nemo@sailfish:~$ gst-launch subdevsrc2 ! ffmpegcolorconv ! waylandsink12:22
coderusERROR: pipeline could not be constructed: no element "subdevsrc2".12:22
MSameercoderus: you are missing a package then:12:23
Wntwhippler: that is what I used as an example when I added cover page support for my app: https://github.com/Wnt/PlanningPoker/blob/master/qml/pages/CardPage.qml#L11912:23
whipplerWnt: any page in partical in there?12:23
Wntwhippler: yes, the cover page switching page :)12:23
pp_yay, it works! (pyotherside application with qmlscene :-) )12:24
MSameercoderus: ok my bad. I am trying to remember12:24
MSameercoderus: I think what's in nemo is subdevsrc only12:25
MSameercoderus: I didn't package subdevsrc2 so I am sorry for the wrong info12:25
MSameercoderus: but you can try: gst-launch subdevsrc ! ffmpegcolorspace ! waylandsink12:25
MSameercoderus: https://build.merproject.org/package/files?package=gst-nokia-videosrc&project=nemo%3Adevel%3Ahw%3Ati%3Aomap3%3An950-n912:25
MSameershame on me12:26
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coderusMSameer: nemo@sailfish:~$ gst-launch subdevsrc ! ffmpegcolorspace ! waylandsink12:26
coderusWARNING: erroneous pipeline: no element "waylandsink"12:26
whipplerWnt, seems simple enough12:27
MSameercoderus: then waylandsink is not packaged12:27
Wntwhippler: also, if you looka at the first 10 lines of my CardPage.qml code, I set the cover page back to the default cover, whe user leaves that page12:27
MSameercoderus: I tried flashing my n9 with sailfish to investigate but i failed miserably12:27
WntI'm sure a similar approach can be used to set the cover page when entering the page12:28
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MSameercoderus: I think i have subdevsrc packaged here: https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=home%3Amsameer%3Agst-nokia-videosrc212:28
MSameercoderus: but i never tested it really12:29
MSameercoderus: I suggest steps: 1) package wayland sink, 2 ) get pipeline to work with subdevsrc and wayland sink 3) get pipeline to work with subdevsrc2 and wayland sink 4) then we know camera works fine12:34
leszekupdated my noto note and todo taking application to the newest sdk. Suggestions and patches are welcome: https://github.com/llelectronics/noto12:36
whipplerWnt: thanks dude, im getting there12:38
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ericcci  update the sdk13:02
ericccand run it   .nut  i  show me13:02
ericcc:-1: 错误:Project is outside of mer shared home 'C:\Users\Administrator' and mer shared src 'C:\Users\Administrator'13:02
whipplerHow do i get the default cover text style13:03
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ericcc@leszek   https://github.com/llelectronics/noto  can  run  on sdk?13:15
leszekericcc: yes13:15
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kaltsiericcc: where did you put your project?13:16
Acceshould the emulator have internet access?13:16
kaltsiAcce: yes13:16
Accekaltsi: ok, then it's my app that has a problem :)13:16
ericcc@kaltsi  i  try  reboot the  qt create   it is  ok13:16
kaltsiAcce: you can try the component gallery which comes with the emulator, it has a webview page that works like a browser .. to test your connectivity13:17
leszekericcc: I also updated the sdk which did not work as the mer sdk would not come up. So I removed the sdk and all the vms and reinstalled. I advice you to do the same if you experience problems13:17
ericcc@leszek  reinstall 12-16 uopadte sdk?13:18
ericcc@leszek  Welcome to scratchbox2 enabled gdb!13:19
ericccit is   right?13:19
Accekaltsi: nice idea, thanks!13:19
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leszekericcc: yeah scratchbox2 I deleted that directory aswell before reinstalling :P13:20
Acceand should the default password for emulator nemo be "nemo"? do i need a key file for ssh?13:21
kaltsiAcce: you can set the password from emulator system settings / developer settings13:21
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kaltsiAcce: but you can also log in with the key... the passwd used to be nemo, but no more13:22
AcceThanks, I didn't notice you can change it in emulator settings13:22
kaltsiAcce: yep it's new in this latest release13:23
kaltsiericcc: if you reinstall the SDK, then please remove the directory C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\SailfishAlpha3 before reinstalling13:23
kaltsiusername= your username13:23
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ericccmust    reinstall the  sdk?13:25
kaltsiif it does not work, try to reinstall13:25
kaltsithis time the sdk update was not very good, caused problems for many13:26
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whipplercant get text centered only horozontally in cover13:30
kaltsiericcc: this error "Project is outside of mer shared home ..." comes if you try to open or create a project that is not in under your home directory or under the extra directory you can specify in the installer13:30
whippleranchor.centerIn: parent does both, vert and hor13:30
whipplerand anchors.horizontalCenter: parent wont work13:30
Dottianchors.horizontalCenter: parent.horizontalCenter ?13:33
ericccnoto  example  can run   ,but  no pic  show  on the   vm.13:33
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whipplerDotti, thanks that did the trick13:35
leszekericcc: pic ? What do you mean which picture ?13:35
ericccleszek:    and  i  can not see  the   noto  on  vm13:36
ericccleszek:   no  effects13:37
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leszekericcc: a screenshot please13:39
ericcc@leszek  how  can  i  do for  screenshot13:39
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Pnuuericcc: install a screen capture app from shop13:43
Pnuu(an limit the extra blanks in the text, please)13:43
leszekericcc: I thought it was running in vm ?13:44
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ericcc@leszek  thank you  i  not  have real  device13:46
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leszekericcc: so you can make a screenshot with your host operating system xD13:47
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MFaro-TusinoSo sharing pngs from the gallery doesn't work - is that in the internal bugzilla?13:48
Stskeepsyes, known13:48
MFaro-Tusinofantastic :)13:49
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coslooks like application output is fixed now, but debugging is still broken14:02
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whipplerin list view i delegate model, is there easy way to get those items to show up on a cover, or top most 5..14:45
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lbtwhippler: a cover is very much like a small Page. Just render into it.14:56
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lbtthere are very few prebuilt things since QML doesn't really benefit from them14:56
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coolmousei cann't open http://wiki.meego.com/ARM#OMAP415:03
coolmousei am15:03
coolmousei am in china15:03
Stskeepsmeego.com is dead15:03
coolmousethank you15:04
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whipplerwhat font family is used by default on covers?15:26
whipplerfor some reason the font is different on my covers.. would like to set it to something so it wouls stay the same15:27
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crysazhmm. i had 83% battery left when i did the software update. after reboot, it showed 100%15:33
Pnuucrysaz: I also noticed a jump, from 86 to 97 or so15:35
Stskeepswhat sw updates from other companies comes with free energy? ;)15:36
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whipplerfor some reason the font is thicker on some covers in my app. already tried font.bold: false15:49
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lbtwhippler: you should use the Theme https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-theme.html15:51
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whipplerthanks for the link lb15:54
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coderusmikähätänä for Sailfish. what do you think?16:58
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narchieis there a default pw for devel-su or how is it set? I can't seem to log in at all17:05
veskuhit is same as ssh password set in developer mode control panel17:06
leszeknarchie: you need to go to the devlopermode and activate it and set an ssh password there17:06
narchienice, thank you leszek: veskuh:17:07
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whippleris there a simple way to rename a whole project?17:15
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artemmawhippler: Check HelloWorld Pro. It has renaming script that should work for any other project too17:18
TumeezHow i can delete "update" notify?17:20
TumeezIt says to update back
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PnuuTumeez: I wondered the same, ended up doing the "update"17:22
Pnuuthen there was again the .12 update available17:22
whipplerartemma: got the script on my project folder, how do i go about using it tpugh :D17:23
TumeezPnuu, lol :D17:23
artemmawhippler: try readme ;)17:23
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artemmawhippler: or just run it, it might give you a hint17:23
PnuuTumeez: my thoughts exactly :-D17:23
Pnuunow, sauna ->17:23
jussiPnuu: +++17:24
itbaronHi, I have a problem with busyIndicator and progressIndicator Items. When I run application from launcher or directly from Icon, the circle is not running or progressIndicator is not running. When I start application from cmd or from qt creator everything works fine. Can somebody help me?17:29
coderusnoone interested in renaming my whatsapp client for finland? okay :D17:32
raa70mikähätänä = what's the problem17:34
Morpog_PCcoderus, any way to test persecute on my Jolla? I've seen you removed the download in openrepos....17:34
coderuswhats up, its google translated for me :D17:34
raa70should be like mitä kuuluu17:35
coderusMorpog_PC: i didnt made any sailfish builds for a month :D17:35
coderusMorpog_PC: i have no time to make sailfish builds17:35
raa70persecute couldn't import contacts on phone, and manually adding them didn't work17:36
Morpog_PCcan I try the old build?17:36
Morpog_PCah ok, so not really working atm....17:36
coderusraa70: i dont know what you mean. on harmattan everything working :)17:37
raa70i tested your early jolla builds17:37
raa70before you pulled em17:38
coderusraa70: early build made on emulator17:38
Morpog_PCcould it work to copy over db file from harmattan persecute to sailfish persecute?17:38
coderusMorpog_PC: sure17:38
Morpog_PCor x86 emulator one to arm one?17:38
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Wntis there any location API supported on harbour? None of the supported APIs listed on https://harbour.jolla.com/faq seem to have anything to do with positioning17:40
raa70not a developer but i believe location apis come from mer?17:41
coderusokay mitäkuuluu :)17:43
WntThis seems like the API I would like to use http://doc-snapshot.qt-project.org/qt5-stable/qtpositioning-index.html17:44
Wntheh, actually Qt WebKit seems to support GeoLocation and Qt WebKit is already one of the supported APIs17:45
w00tWnt: QtPositioning was first released as part of 5.2, so it will be available when we move to 5.217:48
Wntw00t: ok. Is the library already availavle on the device if I want to test and develop an application using the API already?17:50
coderusWnt: everything available on device17:51
w00tWnt: yes17:51
Wntso is there something that is going to change between the current version and the 5.2 version?17:53
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w00tWnt: what we have is very-close-to official, so probably not - i'm just erring on the side of caution17:55
Wntw00t: ok. Maybe I'll need to change the import version from 5.0 to 5.2 after the change?17:57
leszekis there any example code for "swipe from left to right to accept or save" thing ?17:57
Wntand that would of course break applications in harbour and I understand that you don't want that happening17:57
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Wntleszek: Component gallery dialogs has one18:01
leszekah ok thx18:01
leszekwill take a look there18:01
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Wntthe Wizard dialog on the bottom18:01
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WntIs there a way to get rid of the update notification? My device has been running version .12 since last night18:08
WntI have tried running "pkcon refresh", (re)opening the store application and rebooting the device18:09
RaimWnt: isn't there a "Clear Notifications" in the pulley menu?18:09
Wntand the notification is still there18:09
WntRaim: yes, but it clears only all other notifications18:09
PnuuWnt: I installed it, then got another update back to .1218:10
Wntmain, message etc. notifications18:10
Pnuuseemed like the easiest way..18:10
tanghusHmm. After update I get "Fatal: SailfishOS-i486-x86 is an invalid sb2 target"18:10
RaimWnt: hm, too bad, sorry.18:10
WntPnuu: ok, and the notification is now gone from your device?18:10
crysazhow come i didn't get anything strange?18:11
Wntyesterday someone here adviced me to not downgrade to the .10 version and said that the notification should be gone sometime today18:12
crysazat least i didn't pick saw any error messages.18:12
Pnuucrysaz: did you update yesterday?18:12
crysaztoday, around 518:13
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Pnuuok, then you shouldn't have had that .10 -> .12 -> .10 -> .12 update18:14
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Pnuuyesterday there was a update to .12, then downgrade to .10 and today came the "final" .12 update18:14
coderusah w00t i need to ask you :)18:17
crysaznice. so i saved my self from all the trouble18:20
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FryeOk, can someone give me a short introduction between the differences on debug & release targets.18:37
FryeIs there a way for example suppress all console.debug messages with the release target?18:37
FryeOr to be more specific Debug/Release builds18:38
w00tFrye: debug will be slower and easier to debug due to having debug symbols available, release is faster and doesn't have those18:38
FryeBut there is no magic trick I can implemet around the console.debug entries that those would be automatically left out?18:39
FryeNot that those really matter when the app is launched from the UI but still.18:39
w00tread up on qInstallMessageHandler18:39
FryeCan I set these QT_NO_DEBUG_OUTPUTS in the kit configuration or do I need to specify them in the source level? I'm all n00b with IDE's =)18:41
w00tFrye: https://github.com/nemomobile/connectionagent/commit/e6c29c4f3035098e84626772b7dad0e937970a36 shows how to properly forward messages to the default handler - you can filter out debug ones for instance18:42
FryeOk, thanks.18:42
w00t(scroll down)18:42
FryeAh, well my program is only using qml and js for now. So I guess there is some kind of message handler in place via one of the imports18:43
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w00tI don't think it's exposed QML side, you'd need to use C++ (or just remove the debug that you don't want :p)18:44
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FryeI might need to add a variable and a function to wrap the console debug.18:45
FryeThen I can just set the debug on or off.18:45
FryeUntil I write the logic in cpp at least18:45
FryeOr just get rid of the debugs now that the game works *knocks wood*18:45
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rcgis qca-qt5 already available for the current sailfish version as on the jolla phone?18:55
rcgso far, i could only find it on mer obs in nemo:devel:mw18:55
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FryeOk, this may not be entirely on topic here. But If I use a function from a Qt example library, do I need to copyright the entire file with the same license as the file where the original function is or do I just place the copyright around relevant parts of my file?19:06
FryeWhat is the correct way to do this on opensource world. Never published anything before and I'd like to get it right :D19:06
w00tFrye: generally speaking, if it's not trivial, then you inherit the copyright (and license) from the original19:07
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FryeYeah, well we can speak specifically too =) I have created UI for the samegame and part of the logic is from the tutorial.19:08
FryeSpecifically the question is that is the whole file copyrighted by Digia, or can I put the functios that I have taken from the example on their own block and surround that with the copyright?19:09
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FryeI mean the samegame is pretty trivial, but thenagain I do know that some of the functions are more or less directly from the tutorial. Hence I would like to include the original one. Just wondering the right way to include it.19:10
FryeIt's the last condition there that puzzles me19:12
FryeWhich says that I should not use the name of Digia Plcto endorse or promote... :-)19:12
FryeI wish english was my native language :D19:12
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zmcSo, any jolla sailfish roms out and available for playing with yet?19:21
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kaltsiFrye: it just means that you should not advertise your app so that you would give the impression that Digia somehow has a significant part in creating or delivering your app19:27
FryeOk, so best practice would be to include their copyright on top of the file and add my own there aswell?19:28
FryeAnd not bother dividing the contents of the file into sections by copyright.19:29
kaltsiyes.. it's enough if you say in the top for example that "parts of this file <digia copyright>"19:29
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FryeOk, Thank you.19:29
FryeAnd then on my own copyright I guess I need to say that both copyrights should be kept.19:30
kaltsihehe :)19:31
kaltsiif you want that.. but you don't need to19:31
FryeI guess it is not that serious in this case. because the code is pretty trivial.19:31
FryeOh ok.19:31
kaltsiit's your code, you can give it any copyright you want (as long as you honor the existing copyright)19:31
rcghow would i add a repository and install additional packages in the latest emulator?19:32
rcgit seems zypper is not there19:32
kaltsiyou can install zypper19:32
rcgkaltsi, how?19:32
kaltsilogin to the emulator as nemo or root and: pkcon install zypper19:33
rcgah cool :)19:33
rcgkaltsi, thanks :)19:34
kaltsior you don't need to do that even19:34
kaltsiyou can add the repo using ssu19:34
kaltsissu http://repo.url reponame19:34
kaltsiah.. sorry19:34
kaltsissu ar http://repo.url reponame19:34
kaltsithen: pkcon refresh19:34
kaltsior you can use zypper as you wish19:35
FryeHmm, actually the original file I used form the example does not have the copyright.19:35
FryeBut the newer version in the creator has it19:35
rcgkaltsi, ah great19:35
kaltsiFrye: the copyright might be mentioned somewhere else too than the file, but if you just find a file somewhere it's good to mention in its header where it belongs and its copyright too19:40
Fryeyeah, I have a link in the header to the actual tutorial19:41
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kaltsircg: one more thing, pkcon you can use as nemo or root, zypper you have to use as root19:45
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rcgkaltsi, great. thx a lot for all the info :)19:47
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FryeHmm, if I want to include the license file to the rpm. Where do I need to set it to be copied to /installroot?20:01
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MSameergot sailfish running on my n9 \o/20:19
vgradeMSameer: \o20:20
MSameerbut i used old moslo so no dual boot20:21
MSameerbut whatever :p20:21
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vgradeMSameer: same here, not tried ubibooting20:25
MSameerubiboot doesn't want to flash here20:26
MSameerseems the kernel is too big :p20:26
* MSameer installs zypper20:26
MSameerof course videos won't play. no codecs...20:27
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MSameerso waylandsink is not anywhere20:47
MSameerneeds to be packaged20:47
MSameerand videos will not play even theora because there is no sink20:50
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OldDroidhi im a german android developer!21:34
OldDroidi'd like to get some answers by sos devs21:34
OldDroidif its ok21:34
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FryeOk, first attempt at pushing app to harbour.21:55
FryeWe'll see.21:55
FryeI most likely messed it up in many places.21:56
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