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Elleo | Acce: I don't know if there's a way to do so just from QML, but with a little C++ wrapper you can; all you need to do is send a dbus message to org.freedesktop.Notifications (see https://developer.gnome.org/notification-spec/ for docs on that) | 01:13 |
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Elleo | or you can use the mlite5 wrapper | 01:13 |
Elleo | dunno if there's a more official way of doing it though | 01:14 |
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special | Elleo: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-notifications is the best way, but I'm not sure of it's status with harbor. | 01:20 |
Elleo | special: ah cool | 01:24 |
Elleo | Acce: ^ | 01:24 |
Elleo | special: presumably you could just bundle it with your app though, while waiting for the acceptable store APIs to expand a bit? | 01:25 |
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special | there's probably nothing that would prevent you from doing so | 01:30 |
Elleo | good, because it looks like I might have to do something like that myself with libresourcepolicy :) | 01:33 |
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walokra | what is your chosen license for open source sailfishos apps? gplv3, mit? | 06:54 |
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coderus | morning | 07:18 |
zuh | walokra: I chose BSD since it's the one in the example code (usually use MIT, but they're close enough for me) | 07:18 |
chriadam | wtfpl is my favourite. | 07:19 |
coderus | WTFPL | 07:19 |
coderus | +1 | 07:19 |
walokra | i have usually used mit as it's simple compared to others | 07:19 |
walokra | gplv3 is like wtf | 07:20 |
walokra | (if trying to read it) | 07:20 |
chriadam | you can't get simpler than wtfpl | 07:20 |
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coderus | i want answer on my night question | 07:20 |
coderus | * where to add paths to global PATH env * ? | 07:20 |
walokra | is wtfpl like public domain :) | 07:21 |
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chriadam | walokra: yeah, pretty much | 07:23 |
zuh | hm, I wonder which is stronger, copyright legistlation or giving it all away with wtfpl | 07:23 |
coderus | UNLESS you doing something special you can use WTFPL | 07:24 |
coderus | but mind to use different license for some components | 07:25 |
special | http://unlicense.org/ is the serious effort to make a legally sound public domain license | 07:25 |
zuh | walokra: Personally I dislike GPL since it's as restrictive as proprietary licenses - only in the other direction. I'd rather see my code get used than be free in the GPL sense. | 07:26 |
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walokra | yeah, that's a problem | 07:26 |
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jake9xx | +1 for wtfpl here | 07:40 |
jake9xx | coderus: what do you mean, PATH as in shell or ? | 07:40 |
coderus | jake9xx: yes, shell | 07:40 |
tortoisedoc | jake9xx : why not BSD | 07:40 |
coderus | i see it missing /sbin | 07:40 |
tortoisedoc | I mean BSD is ok for everyting | 07:40 |
coderus | and i'm searching for a proper place to add it to PATH | 07:41 |
jake9xx | hmm... maybe in the desktop file? | 07:41 |
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coderus | jake9xx: i want global | 07:42 |
jake9xx | but there is a reason default user is missing /sbin | 07:42 |
jake9xx | so what are you doing there my friend that would require such extra capa? | 07:42 |
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coderus | jake9xx: but when i'm logging as root there are no /sbin in PATH too | 07:43 |
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coderus | jake9xx: i just want to be free as much as posible | 07:43 |
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jake9xx | coderus: well, default user cannot do much about that :/ | 07:45 |
coderus | jake9xx: i'm talking about root | 07:47 |
whippler | is there a way to ganerate bounch of ui objects with a loop? | 07:47 |
coderus | Qt.createComponent(...) | 07:47 |
jake9xx | coderus: you'd need to do that in /etc/bashrc then | 07:47 |
coderus | jake9xx: sure | 07:48 |
jake9xx | coderus: imo if you run app as default user you cannot touch root's env | 07:48 |
coderus | jake9xx: but first of all i want to find where default env values are set | 07:48 |
coderus | jake9xx: its not about using in applications | 07:48 |
coderus | jake9xx: its about comfortable xterm environment for me | 07:49 |
jake9xx | coderus: well, system stuff is loaded from /etc/ which is normal stuff | 07:49 |
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jake9xx | coderus: you run fedora config we're not that far from it | 07:49 |
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coderus | jake9xx: i dont get what you mean :D | 07:50 |
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jake9xx | coderus: well, so you invoke a shell session, that looks for .bashrc (if it's bash shell) and .bash_profile (or equivalent) from user's home dir, if you look at those files they itself source system settings from /etc/ and basically that's how it's all set | 07:51 |
jake9xx | so - we're like any other linux distro in that sense :) | 07:52 |
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coderus | just in my last experience with harmattan there was /etc/profile settings global envitonment values | 07:53 |
coderus | and my laptop have sudo :D | 07:54 |
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walokra | jake9xx: how do I change Mer SDK src folder in SailfishOS IDE? Can't edit it from the IDE directly. | 08:39 |
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jake9xx | walokra: :/ new installation I'm afraid | 08:43 |
jake9xx | or hacking the files, I don't know off the bat which ones | 08:43 |
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walokra | ok | 08:45 |
walokra | and btw. why it's sailfishos ide in windows but qt creator in os x :) | 08:46 |
jake9xx | walokra: I'll take a look.. windows or linux ? | 08:46 |
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walokra | windows. I can just reinstall it | 08:46 |
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whippler | so i have repeater { row { repeater { }} hos can i access a sertein index within that grid | 08:47 |
whippler | name.itemAt().... | 08:47 |
whippler | cant get the sicond indexing to work | 08:47 |
jake9xx | walokra: created mer bug #832 for this | 08:47 |
Merbot | Mer bug 832 in QtCreator Mer Plugin "No possibility to change additional src directory setting in SDK" [Normal,New] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=832 | 08:47 |
DevBot | Bug https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=832 normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, No possibility to change additional src directory setting in SDK | 08:47 |
DevBot | Bug 832: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, No possibility to change additional src directory setting in SDK | 08:48 |
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walokra | :) | 08:48 |
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walokra | jake9xx: hmm, simple reinstalling sdk doesn't change the MER sdk src folder | 09:23 |
jake9xx | walokra: in windows? 1312 installer? | 09:25 |
walokra | in windows and with 1312 | 09:25 |
walokra | where does it take the old setting? | 09:26 |
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jake9xx | interesting, I'll try as well | 09:27 |
walokra | also the other settings like keyboard shortcuts stay | 09:27 |
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walokra | (which is nice :)) | 09:27 |
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jake9xx | walokra: ok, sounds like it does not clean qtc settings | 09:28 |
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jake9xx | walokra: can you check for AppData\Roaming\SailfishAlpha3 existence after un-installing sdk ? | 09:29 |
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qrosh | Hey | 09:29 |
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qrosh | how can I store the informations from a dialog? when I add a variable to it and pass it through or use a global variable they stay empty somehow :S | 09:30 |
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jake9xx | qrosh: I'm not sure I'm following you there, would you have practical example? | 09:31 |
whippler | cant figure out how to access itemAt, inside of another Repeater { } | 09:32 |
whippler | board.itemAt(1) gets me the first repeater fine, but i have another in there to make a grid | 09:33 |
qrosh | jake9xx: Well I have a dialog wizard from the componentexample and in every step you can choose an option and depending on the selection a variable in an url changes | 09:33 |
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jake9xx | qrosh: w/o source code sample it's hard to see those | 09:34 |
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qrosh | jake9xx: http://pastebin.com/s9YnS5EL | 09:38 |
qrosh | qrosh: test | 09:38 |
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jake9xx | qrosh: erhm.. I need an account wait a sec | 09:41 |
qrosh | jake9xx: ahh sorry I can make it public | 09:41 |
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jake9xx | qrosh: yeah | 09:41 |
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qrosh | jake9xx: http://pastebin.com/s9YnS5EL should be public | 09:42 |
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jake9xx | qrosh: ok | 09:43 |
jake9xx | qrosh: ok, looking | 09:44 |
jake9xx | qrosh: nothing obviously wrong in property settings, can you show code where you look at them (i.e. they look empty) | 09:46 |
jake9xx | qrosh: mensaMenu console log trace? | 09:47 |
qrosh | jake9xx: sure thing just how? | 09:48 |
jake9xx | qrosh: what's the item/property for 'acceptDestinationInstance' you don't seem to identify that | 09:49 |
qrosh | jake9xx: I set it through the onAcceptDestinationChanged functions. I hope this is how it is meant to be or am I supposed to set these extra? | 09:51 |
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jake9xx | qrosh: hey, you have 'selector' declared twice. | 09:55 |
jake9xx | ComboBox on line #110 has id 'selector' and so has ComboBox in line #169 | 09:56 |
qrosh | jake9xx: ohh that does not work? I just copied the component example. Though it felt fishy while having the variable twice. Thank you! Will try ASAP | 09:57 |
jake9xx | well that's at least wrong. Each object in qml must be unique if they are give id | 09:57 |
jake9xx | given, even | 09:57 |
qrosh | jake9xx : thanks but it does not change a thing still. FYI will update the paste now | 10:02 |
whippler | so how can i acces the glass item in here: http://pastebin.com/DgSKLpkL | 10:04 |
qrosh | jake9xx : afak will be back in a few minutes | 10:04 |
jake9xx | ok, I'll look at it | 10:09 |
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jake9xx | qrosh: well copied your code from latest pastie to 'secondpage.qml' in sdk emulator and to me it works now ok | 10:14 |
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qrosh | jake9xx: does the variable mensaMenu get set too? for me that is still an Issue you can check by using pully menu -> search | 10:17 |
jake9xx | qrosh: no, it does not get set wait | 10:21 |
whippler | got it working :) | 10:21 |
jake9xx | qrosh: ok, so onAcceptDestinationChanged is triggered only when menuWizardPage item is constructed | 10:23 |
jake9xx | that's why the list stays empty | 10:24 |
qrosh | jake9xx : ok so do I need to change it to acceptDestinationInstance ? | 10:25 |
qrosh | jake9xx: sorry not thinking straight. | 10:27 |
jake9xx | qrosh: no, it's not that. it needs another signal,looking at it now | 10:27 |
walokra | jake9xx: after uninstall AppData\Roaming\SailfishAlpha3 is still there | 10:30 |
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jake9xx | walokra: yeah, remove it | 10:33 |
jake9xx | https://sailfishos.org/wiki/SDK_Alpha_Qt5_Known_Issues#Installer_.2F_Uninstaller | 10:34 |
jake9xx | first bullet | 10:34 |
jake9xx | qrosh: hmm, either this is a bug or something else is wrong, let me look at it more | 10:34 |
walokra | jake9xx: aargh, forgot that | 10:34 |
walokra | it should say it on the uninstaller :) | 10:35 |
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walokra | sorry about the hassle | 10:36 |
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jake9xx | walokra: yes, we have backlist of things that will be in qtc but those cannot be done now :/ | 10:43 |
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cos- | has anyone had problems syncing contacts from n9(50)? | 11:54 |
cos- | looks like i got only facebook data and not for example phone numbers.. | 11:55 |
cos- | i seem to have some of the numbers, but not the most | 11:56 |
tanghus | Haven't gotten to that yet. Still waiting for the phone to finish the update. Has been over an hour now... | 11:56 |
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Skorpy | cos-: yea I had some problems with it. same as yours. | 11:57 |
Skorpy | also, notes and calendar didn't sync at all. | 11:57 |
Skorpy | in the end I exported the contacts to files and imported those in the jolla | 11:57 |
cos- | perhaps i shouldn't start using jolla as the daily phone yet.. | 11:58 |
Skorpy | got everything that way, though now I seem to have some stuff twice.. :P | 11:58 |
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cos- | i even cut my sim already.. luckily i should have an adaptor at home | 12:06 |
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tanghus | Any idea how long it should take to update the phone to 1.0.1.12? The download took a minute or two, but after the reboot it has now taken more than two hours and the updater just sits there, showing nothing. | 12:29 |
zuh | tanghus: What exactly is on the screen? | 12:30 |
tanghus | zuh: the updater just shows the blurred background | 12:30 |
zuh | Wait, *after* the reboot? It should have been done the update by then... | 12:32 |
tanghus | Yes, after the reboot. | 12:32 |
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zuh | The update process is roughly: download, shut down the UI, update, reboot, goes back to regular UI as if you'd turned it on | 12:33 |
tanghus | zuh: on the home screen it just shows a cover saying Jolla | 12:33 |
w00t | tanghus: can you take a photo so it's exactly clear? | 12:34 |
Pnuu | tanghus: like the one when turning the phone on? | 12:34 |
tanghus | zuh: no, with a background with what looks like different colored leaves | 12:35 |
tanghus | There's no snapshot function buil-in is there? | 12:35 |
tanghus | built-in* | 12:35 |
leinir | for values of "snapshot" roughly equivalent to "screenshot"? | 12:36 |
Pnuu | tanghus: sounds like the jolla shop cover | 12:36 |
leinir | Then no :) | 12:36 |
tanghus | Ah, it was the store | 12:36 |
tanghus | ROFL | 12:36 |
artemma | SfietKonstantin: ping | 12:36 |
artemma | SfietKonstantin: your ambiance updater: Have you tried it on a real device? Also current github project mentions .yaml file that isn't actually present | 12:37 |
tanghus | zuh: And here I've been sitting with my sparkling new phone and didn't dare to do anything :D | 12:38 |
zuh | :) | 12:38 |
Pnuu | shouldn't ComboBox { model: "1", "5", "10" } work? | 12:42 |
Pnuu | I get this error: "Cannot assign to non-existent property "model"" | 12:43 |
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Elleo | Pnuu: Silica's ComboBox takes a "menu" property rather than model, and you need to populate it via a ContextMenu | 12:45 |
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Elleo | Pnuu: https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-combobox.html <-- has an example | 12:46 |
Pnuu | Elleo: thanks :-) | 12:46 |
Elleo | no problem :) | 12:46 |
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walokra | jake9xx: is there planned autocomplete for Theme? | 13:06 |
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SfietKonstantin | artemma: no, it was an experiment and is meant to be an experiment | 13:10 |
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artemma | SfietKonstantin: I wanted to experiment with it :D | 13:16 |
jake9xx | walokra: it's a bug currently | 13:16 |
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Pnuu | what provides the left swipe "accept"? | 13:38 |
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Pnuu | tried to find pointers from the silica reference, but no luck | 13:39 |
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Frye | ialog | 13:39 |
Frye | Dialog | 13:39 |
Pnuu | thank you :-) | 13:40 |
whippler | how would i go about running a game loop, is there a wait, or some kind timer? | 13:41 |
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flux | Qt provides timing facilities | 13:46 |
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Wnt | Pnuu: Component gallery has one example of the left swipe "accept" thing. It's in the Wizard page, dialog on the bottom | 13:51 |
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Pnuu | is that somewhere on the net, or only in the sdk? | 13:52 |
Pnuu | as this laptop hasn't got the power to run the sdk.. :-/ | 13:53 |
whippler | flux: ah found it | 13:53 |
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qwazix | is there a way to disable the keyboard prediction line? | 13:55 |
qwazix | Qt.ImhNoPredictiveText doesn't seem to work | 13:55 |
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Wnt | Pnuu: its in the SDK at least. I can bzip it and give a link to it if you want | 13:57 |
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veskuh | qwazix, that should disable prediction, but the VKB still takes the same height since paste button will be there. | 13:58 |
qwazix | veskuh, hmm... ok, thanks | 13:58 |
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qwazix | also, I'm changing the merSdk (remove and add) for qtcreator to get the new port (I have another service on 2222) | 14:17 |
qwazix | test is successful but as long as I close the dialog it reverts to 2222 | 14:17 |
Frye | Hmm, any harbour guys here? | 14:20 |
w00t | Frye: what's up? | 14:20 |
Frye | I thought I pushed an update to QA but it seems that it broke my package | 14:20 |
qwazix | after adding and removing it a couple of times it decided to work... strange | 14:20 |
Frye | Must have screwed up something. | 14:20 |
Frye | Now pkcon search shows both old and new version of the package | 14:21 |
w00t | Frye: what package? | 14:21 |
Frye | harbour-samegame | 14:21 |
Frye | I guess I just did something wrong | 14:21 |
w00t | Frye: have you ever installed it by hand? (rpm -i) | 14:21 |
Frye | only pkcon localinstall | 14:21 |
Frye | not once used rpm directly | 14:21 |
Frye | Ah | 14:21 |
Frye | How does deploy as rpm run it from the QtCreator? | 14:21 |
Frye | If that is rpm -i then I have | 14:22 |
w00t | it's possible that it does, I don't recall | 14:23 |
w00t | if it does rpm -i, then that would most likely be the reason | 14:23 |
Frye | ok | 14:23 |
Frye | from journalctl I can see: Fatal error: Specified path '/var/tmp/TmpDir.3a0F9d' is not a directory | 14:24 |
Frye | So that might be related to rpm issues | 14:25 |
Frye | Is there a way to fix that? | 14:25 |
w00t | urm | 14:26 |
w00t | what are you doing to see that? | 14:26 |
w00t | like, what specifically is failing | 14:26 |
Frye | pkcon install harbour-samegame | 14:26 |
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Frye | Or the same comes when I try to install it via store | 14:27 |
Frye | after it has been removed from my device with pkcon | 14:27 |
Frye | Well as long as it's not totally broken on store I don't really mind. | 14:28 |
Frye | But if it fils for others too then it's an issue. | 14:28 |
Frye | fails* | 14:29 |
w00t | can you pastebin full output you get? | 14:30 |
w00t | it shouldn't happen to you either of course | 14:30 |
w00t | installation worked ok for me | 14:30 |
Frye | Sec | 14:30 |
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Frye | need to hook it up via usb | 14:30 |
Frye | not pasting from fingerterm :D | 14:30 |
Frye | Hmm, not it succeeded | 14:32 |
Frye | now | 14:32 |
Frye | it failed like 7 times before. | 14:32 |
Frye | I did install one other package from store in between | 14:33 |
qrosh | hey can someone help me with dialog variable pass through? | 14:33 |
Frye | Sure | 14:33 |
Frye | What you need? | 14:33 |
qrosh | Frye: http://pastebin.com/s9YnS5EL | 14:34 |
qrosh | Frye: there is somehow an issue with one variable not being passed through as visiable on the log output at the end of the file | 14:34 |
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qrosh | jake9xx: FYI I solved the later issue we had previously BUT somehow the first variable is not set correctly :S | 14:35 |
w00t | Frye: suggestion: save the last name used on the high score list, and set it as the 'text' property of the TextEdit, and set placeholderText to something sane :) | 14:35 |
w00t | Frye: as I play a lot of games in a row generally :p | 14:35 |
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Frye | w00t, sounds good | 14:36 |
Frye | I'll add it to issue tracker =) | 14:36 |
Frye | Just pushed a fix for the game board getting disoriented if playing "too fast" | 14:36 |
Frye | w00t, would you prefer it to save between program runs? Or just between games on the same run of the application? | 14:37 |
w00t | no strong preference :) | 14:37 |
Frye | kk | 14:37 |
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Frye | Ok, It's on my list. | 14:39 |
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Frye | And thanks w00t for help eventhough it seems the problem I had fixed itself :D | 14:40 |
* w00t has a magical touch | 14:40 | |
Frye | :-) | 14:40 |
Frye | qrosh, I'll try to see if I figure it out. | 14:42 |
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qrosh | Frye thank you | 14:44 |
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Frye | I think you cannot refer to something that is on main page | 14:45 |
Frye | I may be wrong here though as I'm quite new with qml | 14:45 |
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Frye | So you may need to pass what you need to the Dialog page on this line: onClicked: pageStack.push(uniWizardPage) | 14:45 |
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Frye | This is how I open a dialog from .js to make sure all needed data is accessible when onAccepted is run: | 14:46 |
Frye | pageStack.push("pages/MyDialog.qml", { "gameScore": gameCanvas.score, "gameTime": gameTime, "boardSize": boardSize}); | 14:46 |
Frye | However this may not be the best or even the correct way to do it :D | 14:47 |
Frye | qrosh, and on the MyDialog.qml I have variables like these inside Dialog {}: property int gameScore: null | 14:49 |
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cos- | dang, i'm not too happy renaming my app to harbour-appname just to get it into sailfish app store :-/ | 14:52 |
qrosh | Frye the thing is the second push through works just not the first one I really am confused. | 14:52 |
artemma | cos-: HelloWorld Pro has a renaming script. It is meant for using HW Pro as a starting template, but should work for renaming existing projects too | 14:52 |
sharpneli | cos-: "I made a game called Pearl and for some reason it did not sell very well in US market in sailfish app store" ;D | 14:53 |
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cos- | artemma: ok, i'll check it out | 14:53 |
Pnuu | sharpneli: :-D | 14:54 |
artemma | sharpneli: I would expect that from Japanese app store more | 14:54 |
Frye | qrosh, ok I'll need a bit more time with it. I just need to leave now for kids xmas party. | 14:55 |
Frye | Hope you get an answer before I'm back. If not I can look it again. | 14:55 |
qrosh | Frye leave it be for now | 14:56 |
Frye | ok | 14:56 |
qrosh | I will check myself some more and if it gets worse I will come back here | 14:56 |
cos- | btw, i got a fail in harbour "Please, reduce wakeups when application is minimized to home screen or display is turned off (and your app is suspended)." | 15:01 |
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cos- | is there a way to test if app is minimized or screen is turned off in qml? | 15:02 |
w00t | cos-: Qt.application.active (for the minimized bit, which at the moment is also the case for screen being off - as applications are minimized when that happens) | 15:02 |
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cos- | w00t: great, thanks | 15:03 |
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Superpelican_ | w00t: does the filename of the .spec or .yaml also need to be $NAME? | 15:04 |
edgars | aaah fuck | 15:04 |
w00t | Superpelican_: I don't think we care about those, since we don't see them. I don't know if the SDK has that as a requirement when building... | 15:04 |
edgars | android emulation or whatever is it is crashing :/ | 15:04 |
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Superpelican_ | w00t: thanks :) I'm currently packaging my application for the Jolla Store | 15:05 |
w00t | edgars: what did you do to the poor android emulation | 15:05 |
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edgars | run amazon app store | 15:08 |
edgars | keyboard crashen and now everything is in the (_O_) :) | 15:09 |
w00t | hm? | 15:09 |
Superpelican_ | :( | 15:10 |
Superpelican_ | I think I've done a bit too much renaming in the .spec and .yaml | 15:10 |
cos- | Superpelican_: spec is generated from yaml, and you need to delete the old spec or sdk will complain | 15:10 |
cos- | looks like .desktop and icon must be also renamed.. | 15:11 |
Superpelican_ | I'm now gettings loads of errors about files that it can't find | 15:11 |
Superpelican_ | I have already renamed the icon | 15:11 |
cos- | perhaps some qmake .pro file trickery could help | 15:11 |
Superpelican_ | the problem is | 15:11 |
Superpelican_ | that it's like fighting against the SDK | 15:11 |
Superpelican_ | the SDK 'wants' everything "QuickClamshell" | 15:12 |
Superpelican_ | while it should be "harbour-quickclamshell" | 15:12 |
Superpelican_ | my project is named "QuickClamshell" | 15:12 |
Superpelican_ | and so is the .pro etc. | 15:12 |
edgars | damn | 15:12 |
edgars | now i cant install calendar | 15:12 |
cos- | Processing files: harbour-siilihai-mobile-2.0.1-1.i586 | 15:12 |
cos- | error: File not found: /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/siilihai-mobile | 15:12 |
edgars | problem with store | 15:13 |
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cos- | i have no clue where it finds the harbourless filename. | 15:13 |
Superpelican_ | ... | 15:14 |
Superpelican_ | it's still naming the binary "QuickClamshell" | 15:14 |
Sidde | how do i use qtpositioning in the sdk? it says qmlmodule not found when i do this: import QtPositioning 5.2 | 15:14 |
Superpelican_ | "Error on file "/home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/applications/*.desktop": No such file or directory" | 15:15 |
Superpelican_ | ? | 15:15 |
cos- | Superpelican_: do you have harbour-name.desktop in project dir? | 15:16 |
Superpelican_ | yes | 15:16 |
Superpelican_ | I just tried again | 15:16 |
Superpelican_ | it complained again | 15:16 |
Superpelican_ | and also it's still reporting "cp -f -R /home/mersdk/Coding/Qt/QuickClamshell/qml /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/QuickClamshell/" | 15:17 |
Superpelican_ | etc. | 15:17 |
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Superpelican_ | I have changed all the /usr/*/QuickClamshell stuff to /usr/*/harbour-quickclamshell in the .spec and .yaml | 15:17 |
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cos- | ok, got my app harbourized. the build process failed to update .spec from .yaml automatically | 15:25 |
cos- | deleting spec and full rebuild helped | 15:25 |
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whippler | how can i enable vibrate on button pres, on my iconbutton? | 15:30 |
Sidde | ok, a metaquestion then: anyone used QtPositioning in the sailfish emulator? | 15:31 |
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cos- | file manager btw fails to delete files | 15:40 |
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juke_ | ö | 15:49 |
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juke_ | i'm trying to port a meego app to sailfish. it depends heavily on mobility apis and those are no longer in qt5, right? the new module for getting that info is qt systems info. i found a message on mailing list from last month stating that it's not yet released officially for sailfish. https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2013-November/001356.html is that still the case? | 15:52 |
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mfu | hi | 15:54 |
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mfuuu | hi got my jolla phone today and quite happy :) Does anyone use the exchange together with horde? There are no contacts updated or added if I'm working on the jolla - the ones from the server are send to the device correct | 15:55 |
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qrosh | mfuu: I would suggest asking this question at #jollamobile | 16:07 |
inffy | mfuuu, two-way-sync is not available yet | 16:08 |
mfuuu | ah ok thanks | 16:08 |
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qrosh | can someone explain to me why sometimes acceptDestination.bar with acceptDestination:foo and acceptDestinationInstance with acceptDestinationInstance:foo.bar are working but not if exchanged? | 16:09 |
coderus | juke_: mobility splitted to qt5 components. for example Qt5Contacts, Qt5Location and i.e. | 16:11 |
coderus | juke_: everything available for development, but some of them not allowed for Harbour yet. | 16:12 |
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juke_ | coderus, thanks. any ideas where would i find documentation for those new modules? | 16:15 |
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juke_ | cloning the module's repo and make docs did the trick | 16:21 |
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fk_lx | how to remove setting from Android app install in Sailfish OS? | 16:28 |
Skorpy | deztructor: about the contextkit-monitor, do I give it the whole path (/run/state/...) or do I just give it the stuff after the /run/state/namespaces directory? | 16:33 |
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Skorpy | deztructor: and do I put slashes between or dots or something? like Internet/NetworkName or Internet.NetworkName | 16:33 |
fk_lx | or should this question be sent to Myriad Group? | 16:33 |
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deztructor | Skorpy: full path like path | 16:37 |
Skorpy | ok | 16:38 |
deztructor | so, /run/state/namespaces/Internet | 16:38 |
Skorpy | ah, ok now I get some output! thank you! | 16:39 |
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amonk | what are recommended partition sizes for sailfish (min and comfortable)? tia | 16:48 |
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juke_ | i'm trying to install a package (qt5-qtsystems) using sailfishos ide. i get an error message "No provider of 'qt5-qtsystems' found." | 16:58 |
lbt | amonk: there aren't any atm | 17:01 |
amonk | heh. you man there aren't any written down. lol | 17:01 |
amonk | s/man/mean/ | 17:01 |
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lbt | correct; we tend to type nowadays. | 17:02 |
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amonk | pedantic absurdity | 17:10 |
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lbt | ah, I see, when you say "you mean there aren't any written down" it's funny; when I say it, it's pedantic and absurd... OK; sure :) Either way that's something which I doubt there is any detailed information about. Glad I took the time to answer you. | 17:16 |
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amonk | yes. my pedantry had a legitimate point, which was to point out that your assertion that "there aren't any" is not only unhelpful, but patently absurd. surely some people have made such recommendations to others along the way to this point, so i tried to make disclosure of the absurdity (yeah) of your negation at least humorous. | 17:33 |
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amonk | further, i didn't ask for "detailed" and you didn't "answer" me; you merely responded... negatively. | 17:34 |
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lbt | ROFL | 17:37 |
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amonk | and you didn't "say it" (as in the same point). You argued that we type more than write these days, which is totally irrelevant and, yes, absurdly pedantic. ;-P | 17:41 |
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mfulz | hi how can I become root on sailfishos? | 17:49 |
Pnuu | mfulz: better to use devel-su | 17:49 |
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SfietKonstantin | mfulz: get dev mode | 17:49 |
SfietKonstantin | setup a password in "ssh connection" fields | 17:50 |
SfietKonstantin | open terminal (or ssh) | 17:50 |
SfietKonstantin | and devel-su followed by the setup password | 17:50 |
whippler | can i somehow enable haptics/vibrate on button pres (icon button) | 17:52 |
mfulz | ah thanks devel-su was the missing part :) | 17:54 |
mfulz | is there a openvpn client available? | 17:55 |
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qwazix | how do I force the window to maximize upon cover action? | 17:58 |
qwazix | should I call window.raise() from c++ or is there a JS way to do it? | 17:58 |
whippler | qwazzix mainWindow.activate() | 18:00 |
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whippler | while mainWindows is the id of applicationWindow | 18:00 |
qwazix | I wonder why it doesn't work as expected... | 18:02 |
whippler | ? | 18:02 |
qwazix | weird! It does when invoked by the icon, but not if you run it from qtcreator | 18:04 |
qwazix | whippler, thanks | 18:04 |
whippler | Any idea on how to vibrate on button press? | 18:05 |
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DarkSim | Anyone own a Jolla yet? | 18:17 |
w00t | i'd hope quite a few, at this point :p | 18:17 |
Nicd- | hehe | 18:17 |
Nicd- | I do | 18:17 |
DarkSim | How is the performance and stability of the phone | 18:18 |
Pnuu | good enough for me atleast :-) | 18:19 |
Nicd- | performance is good | 18:19 |
Nicd- | the only lags happen with the browser and android apps | 18:19 |
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Pnuu | and my coding my own app.. | 18:20 |
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DarkSim | No overheating? | 18:25 |
whippler | yah i got jolla :) | 18:26 |
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Nicd- | DarkSim: it gets pretty hot sometimes but doesn't overheat | 18:28 |
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Frye | I've seen lag when switching between wireless & 3G | 18:38 |
qwazix | grrr... either it is too hard to push a page from the cover, or I am doing something insanely wrong. Is there an example somewhere? | 18:40 |
mfulz | battery time is not good instead of that I'm happy | 18:40 |
w00t | qwazix: "push a page from the cover"? | 18:40 |
w00t | as in "maximize application and display a different page"? | 18:40 |
mfulz | and only one way exchange sync :( | 18:40 |
Pnuu | qwazix: check the hello world pro | 18:40 |
qwazix | w00t, yeah, when the user does an action on the cover, I want a page to be pushed | 18:41 |
Pnuu | qwazix: https://github.com/amarchen/helloworld-pro-sailfish/ | 18:41 |
qwazix | let's say "new message" | 18:41 |
qwazix | Pnuu, thx, I'll have a look | 18:41 |
Pnuu | ah, that isn't in the hw pro.. | 18:41 |
mfulz | is anyone working on a carddav / caldav sync? | 18:41 |
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DarkSim | Would be nice with a smartphone that you basically couldn't drain in 24 hours | 18:43 |
DarkSim | without having to have a big chunk of plastic | 18:44 |
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mfulz | hehe for me the phones could be bigger when a battery is used for the sapce | 18:44 |
mfulz | atm. I'm using a S3 with zerolemon 7000mAh battery that hold up 7 days :) | 18:45 |
mfulz | but I need two way sync for contacts :( | 18:45 |
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sunkan | When I launch the QML app with SailfishApp::main() can I then interact with C++ objects/functions or do I need to launch the QML app in a different way? | 19:36 |
sunkan | Have tried other ways but then import Sailfush.Silica in the .qml file does not work.. | 19:37 |
Milo- | sunkan http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtqml/qtqml-cppintegration-topic.html this should help you on your mission :) | 19:37 |
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sunkan | Milo-: Thanks, have been there.. But I guess I need to read more to understand then, will go through it again.. | 19:39 |
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Milo- | sunkan did you follow the "See Exposing Attributes of C++ Types to QML" link for more information? | 19:41 |
Milo- | I haven't experimented with sailfish sdk yet, so I don't know if that makes much sense. | 19:43 |
sunkan | No I don't think I have tried that, although all I have tried so far fails to run the QML even without trying to interact with C++. The main issue I have with the Qt examples is that they can't then import sailfish stuff in QML. | 19:45 |
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XenGi | what package manager is on the jolla device? can't find zypper or yum. | 20:01 |
teve | pkcon, one can install zypper with pkcon install zypper | 20:01 |
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lbt | juke_: did you get sorted out / | 20:25 |
lbt | I tried and got the same issue - which is odd | 20:25 |
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sunkan | Milo-: Got something working now.. I think my problem was with how I tried to create the QGuiApplication (or lack thereof) ;) | 20:38 |
Milo- | sunkan So what tricks did you have to do in the main()? | 20:39 |
sunkan | QGuiApplication *app = SailfishApp::application(argc, argv); | 20:42 |
sunkan | And then: return app->exec() | 20:42 |
lbt | FWIW this is how I do it for a single simple object which can offer slots and signals as QML methods/events : http://pastie.org/8566478 | 20:42 |
Milo- | and that automatically links your qml to cpp? | 20:42 |
sunkan | lbt's paste looks similar, but is probably more correct than my guesswork ;) | 20:44 |
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janmalte | Where can i get the latest version of Sailfish OS ported to the N9? | 20:46 |
janmalte | With the current installed version (SourenAraya's image) the mobile braodband is not working | 20:46 |
janmalte | I really would like to use sailfish, but need mobile broadband and whatsapp running | 20:47 |
juke_ | lbt, i realized that i really wanted to add a dependency to the yaml-file and that worked. but thanks for asking! | 20:47 |
lbt | juke_: ok, good | 20:48 |
joecool | janmalte: it works, you need to add the APN | 20:56 |
janmalte | ok, sounds logical | 20:57 |
janmalte | where can i find the settings for it? | 20:57 |
joecool | janmalte: settings > system settings > mobile network | 20:57 |
joecool | hold down on the one that says internet up on top and a menu will pop open | 20:57 |
janmalte | Ok, i will have a look at it when i restart the phone tomorrow | 20:58 |
joecool | hit edit on that menu | 20:58 |
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janmalte | thanks a lot for now | 20:58 |
joecool | np | 20:58 |
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janmalte | just one last question: Android support is still not available for Sailfish on the N9, right? | 20:58 |
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valdur55 | janmalte: yes, you are right. | 21:02 |
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Jonni | janmalte: yes, it never will be. | 21:10 |
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janmalte | well, thats poor, but fair. I just need a whatsapp client | 21:16 |
janmalte | more is not neccessary and maybe will not, if there are good sailfish native ones | 21:16 |
janmalte | thanks for your information | 21:16 |
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qrosh | hey can someone look over my code and tell me why the chooser dialog variable pass through is not workin? I hacked it with a global var to work, but I do not like this as it is kinda 'dirty' | 21:30 |
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M4rtinK | any Idea how to format a micro SD card so that Sailfish will automount it ? | 21:50 |
qrosh | M4rtinK I think it was exFat or Fat32 or vFat | 21:52 |
Nicd- | exfat is not supported | 21:52 |
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qrosh | does btrfs automount work? | 21:54 |
M4rtinK | qrosh: well I guess I can try :) | 21:59 |
M4rtinK | qrosh: someone already reported that BTRFS on the uSD works | 22:00 |
M4rtinK | qrosh: but not if it meant automount or manual mounting | 22:00 |
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Nicd- | probably manual | 22:01 |
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M4rtinK | it is just that I have a 64GB card and would rather avoid formatting it to FAT32 :) | 22:02 |
M4rtinK | defets the purpose of having such a big card a bit :) | 22:03 |
M4rtinK | ok then, lets try BTRFS :) | 22:03 |
qrosh | I know it supports ext4 and btrfs but I have no clue about auto mount on these formats | 22:04 |
M4rtinK | well, the mount-sd.sh script does this: | 22:05 |
M4rtinK | mount $SDCARD $MNT -o uid=$DEF_UID,gid=$DEF_GID | 22:05 |
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M4rtinK | but according to jake9xx, the mount command in this context behaves differently to the normal one | 22:06 |
whippler | M4rtinK: depends what files you have. Mines filled with flac music, 4GB size cap isnt a problem | 22:06 |
whippler | Anyone know how i would get vibrate on button press, on my buttons? | 22:07 |
M4rtinK | well, the 4GB max size is not that much of an issue | 22:08 |
M4rtinK | but minimal file size is :) | 22:08 |
M4rtinK | is you store a few thousand map tiles on it | 22:08 |
M4rtinK | and everyone of them has 64kB | 22:08 |
M4rtinK | that's an issue :) | 22:08 |
whippler | ah :) | 22:08 |
M4rtinK | while modRana now supports storing tiles in a sqlite database | 22:10 |
M4rtinK | this can still be an issue with similar many-large-files workloads | 22:10 |
M4rtinK | card formatted, let's see | 22:11 |
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M4rtinK | qrosh: hmm, not working | 22:14 |
M4rtinK | mount-sd.sh[1305]: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mmcblk1p1 | 22:14 |
jake9xx | M4rtinK: I'm hacking the script, back soon | 22:17 |
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M4rtinK | jake9xx: ok, thanks! :) | 22:17 |
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qwazix | locusf, you've got PR :-) | 22:32 |
Frye | M4rtinK, http://forum.jollausers.com/jolla-phone/jolla-sd-card/msg1956/#msg1956 | 22:32 |
Frye | There's a script that works for me with the SD card | 22:32 |
Frye | 64GB Sdcard and btrfs | 22:33 |
qrosh | does xmlhttprequest work for local files? | 22:33 |
qrosh | or are there some security constraints? | 22:34 |
M4rtinK | Frye: interesting! :) | 22:34 |
Frye | let me check I think I use that to load local license | 22:34 |
Frye | qrosh, new XMLHttpRequest(); | 22:35 |
Frye | So Yes it worls for local files | 22:35 |
Frye | jake9xx, I think there is already a fix for the mount-sd in nemo repos. Base on the url above. | 22:36 |
qrosh | Frye thanks a lot! by the way how did you manage to get your variable pass-through on dialogs done? I have solved my issue with an '# | 22:36 |
qrosh | * dirty usage of global variables | 22:37 |
Frye | I set the variables while calling the pageStack.push | 22:37 |
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qrosh | pageStack.pus(SecondWizard {foo = bar}) ?? | 22:38 |
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Frye | pageStack.push("pages/MyDialog.qml", { "gameScore": gameCanvas.score, "gameTime": gameTime, "boardSize": boardSize}); | 22:38 |
qrosh | well thats for starting the dialog, but I mean when changing from dialogPage1 to dialogPage2 | 22:39 |
Frye | I think it would still work like that | 22:40 |
Frye | provided you have all the required variables on the dialog 1 | 22:40 |
qrosh | I will check ty | 22:41 |
qrosh | ok that pageStack.push(...) only exists for the entering of the dialog, after that I use "acceptDestination: foo" | 22:43 |
mfulz | how can I add two pages to an application when starting so that I can use forward to go to the next page? | 22:44 |
whippler | i think those are called attached pages | 22:45 |
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mfulz | hm I cannot find it here https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/sailfish-silica-all.html | 22:47 |
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M4rtinK | Frye, jake9xx: so I can confirm that that fix from Nemo works | 22:51 |
M4rtinK | even for EXT4 | 22:51 |
whippler | mfulz: https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-pagestack.html#pushAttached-method pageStack.pushAttached() | 22:52 |
whippler | part of pageStack | 22:53 |
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mfulz | thanks and how can I add this inside of a qml file? | 22:54 |
whippler | pageStack.pushAttached(Qt.resolvedUrl("page.qml")) | 22:57 |
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whippler | and if you want to attach it when the page load, put it in Component.onCompleted { pageStack...} | 22:58 |
Venemo | hi | 23:02 |
whippler | Hey | 23:02 |
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whippler | mfulz: hmm im not really sure, havent used attached pages yet | 23:04 |
mfulz | hm | 23:04 |
mfulz | I think inside the qml I always need a property: value thing? | 23:04 |
mfulz | but don't know what to use for that | 23:05 |
jake9xx | hello Venemo | 23:07 |
jake9xx | mfulz: think of javascript bindings - it's that simple | 23:07 |
mfulz | do you have an example for attached pages? | 23:08 |
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whippler | mfulz: check componentGallery, PageStack.qml | 23:09 |
Venemo | hi jake9xx :) | 23:10 |
whippler | mfulz: its attaching a component to second page by id | 23:10 |
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whippler | pageStack.push(nextPage, {}, operationType); | 23:11 |
whippler | Component {id: nextPage...} | 23:11 |
mfulz | yes I got the basic idea but how to put it together I'm missing some total trivial thing about the whole concept I think | 23:12 |
whippler | ? | 23:12 |
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mfulz | a.e. I've the firstpage.qml just the basic template app in qtcreator | 23:13 |
lbt | I think the issue is that a lot of Page navigation is declarative | 23:14 |
mfulz | what do I need to add to firstpage.qml main.qml to attache secondpage.qml to it? | 23:14 |
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whippler | not sure how you would attach another .qml, the component callery attaches from same page | 23:15 |
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mfulz | how / where do I need to call the pageStack.pushAttached ? | 23:18 |
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whippler | inside Component.onCompleted { } if you want it there when the page is loaded | 23:19 |
mfulz | and where is that | 23:19 |
whippler | Page{ Component.onComple.... | 23:19 |
whippler | put it inside the page | 23:19 |
lbt_ | whippler: ie in an onCompleted : { page.pushAttached() } nested in the Page {} ... | 23:20 |
lbt_ | :) | 23:20 |
mfulz | ah now | 23:20 |
lbt_ | given the Page has an id: page | 23:20 |
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whippler | okey... how would i vibrate on button pres? | 23:22 |
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lbt | whippler: import QtFeedback 5.0 HapticsEffect | 23:25 |
whippler | okey, how do i use it? | 23:25 |
lbt | I'm not sure if it's a supported API atm | 23:25 |
lbt | there are no docs in my (old) SDK | 23:25 |
mfulz | hm still doesn't work | 23:26 |
mfulz | I've now one page id: page | 23:26 |
mfulz | and another page id: nextpage | 23:26 |
lbt | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtqml/qml-qtquick2-component.html#onCompleted-signal | 23:26 |
whippler | so if im pushing to harbour, i should not use haptics? | 23:26 |
lbt | mfulz: that says I was wrong | 23:26 |
lbt | whippler: I'll check | 23:26 |
mfulz | ah it will be called when it's too late | 23:27 |
lbt | whippler: it doesn't seem to be on the OK list I'm afraid | 23:28 |
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whippler | so i shouldnt worry about getting that to work then | 23:28 |
lbt | correct... I found this though : https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2013-November/001359.html | 23:29 |
lbt | so you may want to experiment for non-harbour use | 23:29 |
lbt | or for a community repo | 23:29 |
whippler | all keep that in mind | 23:30 |
whippler | *i'll | 23:31 |
lbt | mfulz: why do you say that? | 23:32 |
mfulz | <lbt> mfulz: that says I was wrong ? | 23:33 |
lbt | ah .. only that you seem to need to use Component.onCompleted ... I personally expected Page {} to have an onCompleted signal | 23:34 |
mfulz | ah ok | 23:34 |
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mfulz | so what I did was in page id: page i added Component.onCompleted: pageStack.pushAttached("SecondPage.qml") but I'm unable to move to this page with swipe from right to left | 23:35 |
dist | mfulz: the dot appears there still on the top indicating another page, right? | 23:37 |
mfulz | no | 23:37 |
mfulz | that's the problem | 23:37 |
dist | oh, damn. nevermind then =D | 23:39 |
lbt | http://pastie.org/8566733 | 23:41 |
lbt | mfulz: it didn't work if I did that in the Page {} itself | 23:41 |
lbt | I suspect that what is happening is that Page {id: page} gets created. the event fires and *then* the page is pushed onto the stack by the initialPage: mapping | 23:42 |
lbt | so if you try to do pushAttached inside the Page... the stack is actually empty at that point | 23:42 |
lbt | so yeah, damned confusing :D | 23:43 |
lbt | but maybe one of our QML experts will explain it better and show a better way to do it | 23:43 |
lbt | when the new Q&A site opens, ask in there | 23:43 |
mfulz | ah great thank you so much ! | 23:44 |
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mfulz | so now I just need to know how the qml is working with code together :D never used that before | 23:46 |
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mfulz | where is the entry point for own code? In the examples there is just a call return SailfishApp::main(argc, argv); | 23:48 |
dist | Hmm, is there example qml somewhere with silicalistview, pageheader and subheaders in the list? | 23:48 |
mfulz | I mean that here: https://sailfishos.org/develop-firstapp-code.html | 23:49 |
dist | (or hmm. are those just SilicaFlickables with a Column on them. Let's say just the settings root menu on jolla for example) | 23:52 |
mfulz | yes now I'm trying to understand where to put functionality in the code | 23:53 |
jake9xx | mfulz: SailfishApp::main invokes the 'appname'.qml which is your entry point | 23:53 |
mfulz | yep but a.e. in normal c/c++ I would go and run my code inside the main, like intantiating a class and doing work | 23:54 |
jake9xx | qml is declarative language, it does not work like that | 23:55 |
mfulz | so I'm going to attach functionality to some qml thinks, like buttons | 23:55 |
jake9xx | qml = ui definition/markup | 23:55 |
jake9xx | qml binds with javascript directly so you can call your javascript w/o extra magic. If you want to have c++ there, you can have a c++ plugin | 23:56 |
mfulz | hm I thought Qt is c++? | 23:56 |
jake9xx | mfulz: you add 'Button' to QML for layout, please look at tutorials and examples in the SDK, they should give you an answer | 23:57 |
jake9xx | Qt itself is c++ yes, QtQuick2 (QML2) is using Qt below the surface | 23:57 |
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