Friday, 2013-12-20

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ElleoAcce: I don't know if there's a way to do so just from QML, but with a little C++ wrapper you can; all you need to do is send a dbus message to org.freedesktop.Notifications (see for docs on that)01:13
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Elleoor you can use the mlite5 wrapper01:13
Elleodunno if there's a more official way of doing it though01:14
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specialElleo: is the best way, but I'm not sure of it's status with harbor.01:20
Elleospecial: ah cool01:24
ElleoAcce: ^01:24
Elleospecial: presumably you could just bundle it with your app though, while waiting for the acceptable store APIs to expand a bit?01:25
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specialthere's probably nothing that would prevent you from doing so01:30
Elleogood, because it looks like I might have to do something like that myself with libresourcepolicy :)01:33
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walokrawhat is your chosen license for open source sailfishos apps? gplv3, mit?06:54
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zuhwalokra: I chose BSD since it's the one in the example code (usually use MIT, but they're close enough for me)07:18
chriadamwtfpl is my favourite.07:19
walokrai have usually used mit as it's simple compared to others07:19
walokragplv3 is like wtf07:20
walokra(if trying to read it)07:20
chriadamyou can't get simpler than wtfpl07:20
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coderusi want answer on my night question07:20
coderus* where to add paths to global PATH env * ?07:20
walokrais wtfpl like public domain :)07:21
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chriadamwalokra: yeah, pretty much07:23
zuhhm, I wonder which is stronger, copyright legistlation or giving it all away with wtfpl07:23
coderusUNLESS you doing something special you can use WTFPL07:24
coderusbut mind to use different license for some components07:25
special is the serious effort to make a legally sound public domain license07:25
zuhwalokra: Personally I dislike GPL since it's as restrictive as proprietary licenses - only in the other direction. I'd rather see my code get used than be free in the GPL sense.07:26
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walokrayeah, that's a problem07:26
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jake9xx+1 for wtfpl here07:40
jake9xxcoderus: what do you mean, PATH as in shell or ?07:40
coderusjake9xx: yes, shell07:40
tortoisedocjake9xx : why not BSD07:40
coderusi see it missing /sbin07:40
tortoisedocI mean BSD is ok for everyting07:40
coderusand i'm searching for a proper place to add it to PATH07:41
jake9xxhmm... maybe in the desktop file?07:41
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coderusjake9xx: i want global07:42
jake9xxbut there is a reason default user is missing /sbin07:42
jake9xxso what are you doing there my friend that would require such extra capa?07:42
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coderusjake9xx: but when i'm logging as root there are no /sbin in PATH too07:43
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coderusjake9xx: i just want to be free as much as posible07:43
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jake9xxcoderus: well, default user cannot do much about that :/07:45
coderusjake9xx: i'm talking about root07:47
whippleris there a way to ganerate bounch of ui objects with a loop?07:47
jake9xxcoderus: you'd need to do that in /etc/bashrc then07:47
coderusjake9xx: sure07:48
jake9xxcoderus: imo if you run app as default user you cannot touch root's env07:48
coderusjake9xx: but first of all i want to find where default env values are set07:48
coderusjake9xx: its not about using in applications07:48
coderusjake9xx: its about comfortable xterm environment for me07:49
jake9xxcoderus: well, system stuff is loaded from /etc/ which is normal stuff07:49
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jake9xxcoderus: you run fedora config we're not that far from it07:49
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coderusjake9xx: i dont get what you mean :D07:50
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jake9xxcoderus: well, so you invoke a shell session, that looks for .bashrc (if it's bash shell) and .bash_profile (or equivalent) from user's home dir, if you look at those files they itself source system settings from /etc/ and basically that's how it's all set07:51
jake9xxso - we're like any other linux distro in that sense :)07:52
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coderusjust in my last experience with harmattan there was /etc/profile settings global envitonment values07:53
coderusand my laptop have sudo :D07:54
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walokrajake9xx: how do I change Mer SDK src folder in SailfishOS IDE? Can't edit it from the IDE directly.08:39
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jake9xxwalokra: :/ new installation I'm afraid08:43
jake9xxor hacking the files, I don't know off the bat which ones08:43
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walokraand btw. why it's sailfishos ide in windows but qt creator in os x :)08:46
jake9xxwalokra: I'll take a look.. windows or linux ?08:46
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walokrawindows. I can just reinstall it08:46
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whipplerso i have repeater { row { repeater { }} hos can i access a sertein index within that grid08:47
whipplercant get the sicond indexing to work08:47
jake9xxwalokra: created mer bug #832 for this08:47
MerbotMer bug 832 in QtCreator Mer Plugin "No possibility to change additional src directory setting in SDK" [Normal,New]
DevBotBug normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, No possibility to change additional src directory setting in SDK08:47
DevBotBug 832: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, No possibility to change additional src directory setting in SDK08:48
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walokrajake9xx: hmm, simple reinstalling sdk doesn't change the MER sdk src folder09:23
jake9xxwalokra: in windows? 1312 installer?09:25
walokrain windows and with 131209:25
walokrawhere does it take the old setting?09:26
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jake9xxinteresting, I'll try as well09:27
walokraalso the other settings like keyboard shortcuts stay09:27
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walokra(which is nice :))09:27
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jake9xxwalokra: ok, sounds like it does not clean qtc settings09:28
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jake9xxwalokra: can you check for AppData\Roaming\SailfishAlpha3 existence after un-installing sdk ?09:29
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qroshhow can I store the informations from a dialog? when I add a variable to it and pass it through or use a global variable they stay empty somehow :S09:30
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jake9xxqrosh: I'm not sure I'm following you there, would you have practical example?09:31
whipplercant figure out how to access itemAt, inside of another Repeater { }09:32
whipplerboard.itemAt(1) gets me the first repeater fine, but i have another in there to make a grid09:33
qroshjake9xx: Well I have a dialog wizard from the componentexample and in every step you can choose an option and depending on the selection a variable in an url changes09:33
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jake9xxqrosh: w/o source code sample it's hard to see those09:34
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qroshqrosh: test09:38
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jake9xxqrosh: erhm.. I need an account wait a sec09:41
qroshjake9xx: ahh sorry I can make it public09:41
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jake9xxqrosh: yeah09:41
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qroshjake9xx: should be public09:42
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jake9xxqrosh: ok09:43
jake9xxqrosh: ok, looking09:44
jake9xxqrosh: nothing obviously wrong in property settings, can you show code where you look at them (i.e. they look empty)09:46
jake9xxqrosh: mensaMenu console log trace?09:47
qroshjake9xx: sure thing just how?09:48
jake9xxqrosh: what's the item/property for 'acceptDestinationInstance' you don't seem to identify that09:49
qroshjake9xx: I set it through the onAcceptDestinationChanged functions. I hope this is how it is meant to be or am I supposed to set these extra?09:51
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jake9xxqrosh: hey, you have 'selector' declared twice.09:55
jake9xxComboBox on line #110 has id 'selector' and so has ComboBox in line #16909:56
qroshjake9xx: ohh that does not work? I just copied the component example. Though it felt fishy while having the variable twice. Thank you! Will try ASAP09:57
jake9xxwell that's at least wrong. Each object in qml must be unique if they are give id09:57
jake9xxgiven, even09:57
qroshjake9xx : thanks but it does not change a thing still. FYI will update the paste now10:02
whipplerso how can i acces the glass item in here:
qroshjake9xx : afak will be back in a few minutes10:04
jake9xxok, I'll look at it10:09
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jake9xxqrosh: well copied your code from latest pastie to 'secondpage.qml' in sdk emulator and to me it works now ok10:14
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qroshjake9xx: does the variable mensaMenu get set too? for me that is still an Issue you can check by using pully menu -> search10:17
jake9xxqrosh: no, it does not get set wait10:21
whipplergot it working :)10:21
jake9xxqrosh: ok, so onAcceptDestinationChanged is triggered only when menuWizardPage item is constructed10:23
jake9xxthat's why the list stays empty10:24
qroshjake9xx : ok so do I need to change it to acceptDestinationInstance ?10:25
qroshjake9xx: sorry not thinking straight.10:27
jake9xxqrosh: no, it's not that. it needs another signal,looking at it now10:27
walokrajake9xx: after uninstall AppData\Roaming\SailfishAlpha3 is still there10:30
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jake9xxwalokra: yeah, remove it10:33
jake9xxfirst bullet10:34
jake9xxqrosh: hmm, either this is a bug or something else is wrong, let me look at it more10:34
walokrajake9xx: aargh, forgot that10:34
walokrait should say it on the uninstaller :)10:35
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walokrasorry about the hassle10:36
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jake9xxwalokra: yes, we have backlist of things that will be in qtc but those cannot be done now :/10:43
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cos-has anyone had problems syncing contacts from n9(50)?11:54
cos-looks like i got only facebook data and not for example phone numbers..11:55
cos-i seem to have some of the numbers, but not the most11:56
tanghusHaven't gotten to that yet. Still waiting for the phone to finish the update. Has been over an hour now...11:56
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Skorpycos-: yea I had some problems with it. same as yours.11:57
Skorpyalso, notes and calendar didn't sync at all.11:57
Skorpyin the end I exported the contacts to files and imported those in the jolla11:57
cos-perhaps i shouldn't start using jolla as the daily phone yet..11:58
Skorpygot everything that way, though now I seem to have some stuff twice.. :P11:58
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cos-i even cut my sim already.. luckily i should have an adaptor at home12:06
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tanghusAny idea how long it should take to update the phone to The download took a minute or two, but after the reboot it has now taken more than two hours and the updater just sits there, showing nothing.12:29
zuhtanghus: What exactly is on the screen?12:30
tanghuszuh: the updater just shows the blurred background12:30
zuhWait, *after* the reboot? It should have been done the update by then...12:32
tanghusYes, after the reboot.12:32
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zuhThe update process is roughly: download, shut down the UI, update, reboot, goes back to regular UI as if you'd turned it on12:33
tanghuszuh: on the home screen it just shows a cover saying Jolla12:33
w00ttanghus: can you take a photo so it's exactly clear?12:34
Pnuutanghus: like the one when turning the phone on?12:34
tanghuszuh: no, with a background with what looks like different colored leaves12:35
tanghusThere's no snapshot function buil-in is there?12:35
leinirfor values of "snapshot" roughly equivalent to "screenshot"?12:36
Pnuutanghus: sounds like the jolla shop cover12:36
leinirThen no :)12:36
tanghusAh, it was the store12:36
artemmaSfietKonstantin: ping12:36
artemmaSfietKonstantin: your ambiance updater: Have you tried it on a real device? Also current github project mentions .yaml file that isn't actually present12:37
tanghuszuh: And here I've been sitting with my sparkling new phone and didn't dare to do anything :D12:38
Pnuushouldn't ComboBox { model: "1", "5", "10" } work?12:42
PnuuI get this error: "Cannot assign to non-existent property "model""12:43
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ElleoPnuu: Silica's ComboBox takes a "menu" property rather than model, and you need to populate it via a ContextMenu12:45
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ElleoPnuu: <-- has an example12:46
PnuuElleo: thanks :-)12:46
Elleono problem :)12:46
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walokrajake9xx: is there planned autocomplete for Theme?13:06
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SfietKonstantinartemma: no, it was an experiment and is meant to be an experiment13:10
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artemmaSfietKonstantin: I wanted to experiment with it :D13:16
jake9xxwalokra: it's a bug currently13:16
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Pnuuwhat provides the left swipe "accept"?13:38
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Pnuutried to find pointers from the silica reference, but no luck13:39
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Pnuuthank you :-)13:40
whipplerhow would i go about running a game loop, is there a wait, or some kind timer?13:41
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fluxQt provides timing facilities13:46
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WntPnuu: Component gallery has one example of the left swipe "accept" thing. It's in the Wizard page, dialog on the bottom13:51
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Pnuuis that somewhere on the net, or only in the sdk?13:52
Pnuuas this laptop hasn't got the power to run the sdk.. :-/13:53
whipplerflux: ah found it13:53
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qwazixis there a way to disable the keyboard prediction line?13:55
qwazixQt.ImhNoPredictiveText doesn't seem to work13:55
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WntPnuu: its in the SDK at least. I can bzip it and give a link to it if you want13:57
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veskuhqwazix, that should disable prediction, but the VKB still takes the same height since paste button will be there.13:58
qwazixveskuh, hmm... ok, thanks13:58
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qwazixalso, I'm changing the merSdk (remove and add) for qtcreator to get the new port (I have another service on 2222)14:17
qwazixtest is successful but as long as I close the dialog it reverts to 222214:17
FryeHmm, any harbour guys here?14:20
w00tFrye: what's up?14:20
FryeI thought I pushed an update to QA but it seems that it broke my package14:20
qwazixafter adding and removing it a couple of times it decided to work... strange14:20
FryeMust have screwed up something.14:20
FryeNow pkcon search shows both old and new version of the package14:21
w00tFrye: what package?14:21
FryeI guess I just did something wrong14:21
w00tFrye: have you ever installed it by hand? (rpm -i)14:21
Fryeonly pkcon localinstall14:21
Fryenot once used rpm directly14:21
FryeHow does deploy as rpm run it from the QtCreator?14:21
FryeIf that is rpm -i then I have14:22
w00tit's possible that it does, I don't recall14:23
w00tif it does rpm -i, then that would most likely be the reason14:23
Fryefrom journalctl I can see: Fatal error: Specified path '/var/tmp/TmpDir.3a0F9d' is not a directory14:24
FryeSo that might be related to rpm issues14:25
FryeIs there a way to fix that?14:25
w00twhat are you doing to see that?14:26
w00tlike, what specifically is failing14:26
Fryepkcon install harbour-samegame14:26
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FryeOr the same comes when I try to install it via store14:27
Fryeafter it has been removed from my device with pkcon14:27
FryeWell as long as it's not totally broken on store I don't really mind.14:28
FryeBut if it fils for others too then it's an issue.14:28
w00tcan you pastebin full output you get?14:30
w00tit shouldn't happen to you either of course14:30
w00tinstallation worked ok for me14:30
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Fryeneed to hook it up via usb14:30
Fryenot pasting from fingerterm :D14:30
FryeHmm, not it succeeded14:32
Fryeit failed like 7 times before.14:32
FryeI did install one other package from store in between14:33
qroshhey can someone help me with dialog variable pass through?14:33
FryeWhat you need?14:33
qroshFrye: there is somehow an issue with one variable not being passed through as visiable on the log output at the end of the file14:34
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qroshjake9xx: FYI I solved the later issue we had previously BUT somehow the first variable is not set correctly :S14:35
w00tFrye: suggestion: save the last name used on the high score list, and set it as the 'text' property of the TextEdit, and set placeholderText to something sane :)14:35
w00tFrye: as I play a lot of games in a row generally :p14:35
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Fryew00t, sounds good14:36
FryeI'll add it to issue tracker =)14:36
FryeJust pushed a fix for the game board getting disoriented if playing "too fast"14:36
Fryew00t, would you prefer it to save between program runs? Or just between games on the same run of the application?14:37
w00tno strong preference :)14:37
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FryeOk, It's on my list.14:39
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FryeAnd thanks w00t for help eventhough it seems the problem I had fixed itself :D14:40
* w00t has a magical touch14:40
Fryeqrosh, I'll try to see if I figure it out.14:42
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qroshFrye thank you14:44
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FryeI think you cannot refer to something that is on main page14:45
FryeI may be wrong here though as I'm quite new with qml14:45
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FryeSo you may need to pass what you need to the Dialog page on this line: onClicked: pageStack.push(uniWizardPage)14:45
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FryeThis is how I open a dialog from .js to make sure all needed data is accessible when onAccepted is run:14:46
FryepageStack.push("pages/MyDialog.qml", { "gameScore": gameCanvas.score, "gameTime": gameTime, "boardSize": boardSize});14:46
FryeHowever this may not be the best or even the correct way to do it :D14:47
Fryeqrosh, and on the MyDialog.qml I have variables like these inside Dialog {}:     property int gameScore: null14:49
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cos-dang, i'm not too happy renaming my app to harbour-appname just to get it into sailfish app store :-/14:52
qroshFrye the thing is the second push through works just not the first one I really am confused.14:52
artemmacos-: HelloWorld Pro has a renaming script. It is meant for using HW Pro as a starting template, but should work for renaming existing projects too14:52
sharpnelicos-: "I made a game called Pearl and for some reason it did not sell very well in US market in sailfish app store" ;D14:53
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cos-artemma: ok, i'll check it out14:53
Pnuusharpneli: :-D14:54
artemmasharpneli: I would expect that from Japanese app store more14:54
Fryeqrosh, ok I'll need a bit more time with it. I just need to leave now for kids xmas party.14:55
FryeHope you get an answer before I'm back. If not I can look it again.14:55
qroshFrye leave it be for now14:56
qroshI will check myself some more and if it gets worse I will come back here14:56
cos-btw, i got a fail in harbour "Please, reduce wakeups when application is minimized to home screen or display is turned off (and your app is suspended)."15:01
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cos-is there a way to test if app is minimized or screen is turned off in qml?15:02
w00tcos-: (for the minimized bit, which at the moment is also the case for screen being off - as applications are minimized when that happens)15:02
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cos-w00t: great, thanks15:03
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Superpelican_w00t: does the filename of the .spec or .yaml also need to be $NAME?15:04
edgarsaaah fuck15:04
w00tSuperpelican_: I don't think we care about those, since we don't see them. I don't know if the SDK has that as a requirement when building...15:04
edgarsandroid emulation or whatever is it is crashing :/15:04
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Superpelican_w00t: thanks :) I'm currently packaging my application for the Jolla Store15:05
w00tedgars: what did you do to the poor android emulation15:05
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edgarsrun amazon app store15:08
edgarskeyboard crashen and now everything is in the (_O_) :)15:09
Superpelican_I think I've done a bit too much renaming in the .spec and .yaml15:10
cos-Superpelican_: spec is generated from yaml, and you need to delete the old spec or sdk will complain15:10
cos-looks like .desktop and icon must be also renamed..15:11
Superpelican_I'm now gettings loads of errors about files that it can't find15:11
Superpelican_I have already renamed the icon15:11
cos-perhaps some qmake .pro file trickery could help15:11
Superpelican_the problem is15:11
Superpelican_that it's like fighting against the SDK15:11
Superpelican_the SDK 'wants' everything "QuickClamshell"15:12
Superpelican_while it should be "harbour-quickclamshell"15:12
Superpelican_my project is named "QuickClamshell"15:12
Superpelican_and so is the .pro etc.15:12
edgarsnow i cant install calendar15:12
cos-Processing files: harbour-siilihai-mobile-2.0.1-1.i58615:12
cos-error: File not found: /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/siilihai-mobile15:12
edgarsproblem with store15:13
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cos-i have no clue where it finds the harbourless filename.15:13
Superpelican_it's still naming the binary "QuickClamshell"15:14
Siddehow do i use qtpositioning in the sdk? it says qmlmodule not found when i do this: import QtPositioning 5.215:14
Superpelican_"Error on file "/home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/applications/*.desktop": No such file or directory"15:15
cos-Superpelican_: do you have harbour-name.desktop in project dir?15:16
Superpelican_I just tried again15:16
Superpelican_it complained again15:16
Superpelican_and also it's still reporting "cp -f -R /home/mersdk/Coding/Qt/QuickClamshell/qml /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/QuickClamshell/"15:17
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Superpelican_I have changed all the /usr/*/QuickClamshell stuff to /usr/*/harbour-quickclamshell in the .spec and .yaml15:17
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cos-ok, got my app harbourized. the build process failed to update .spec from .yaml automatically15:25
cos-deleting spec and full rebuild helped15:25
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whipplerhow can i enable vibrate on button pres, on my iconbutton?15:30
Siddeok, a metaquestion then: anyone used QtPositioning in the sailfish emulator?15:31
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cos-file manager btw fails to delete files15:40
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juke_i'm trying to port a meego app to sailfish. it depends heavily on mobility apis and those are no longer in qt5, right? the new module for getting that info is qt systems info. i found a message on mailing list from last month stating that it's not yet released officially for sailfish. is that still the case?15:52
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mfuuuhi got my jolla phone today and quite happy :) Does anyone use the exchange together with horde? There are no contacts updated or added if I'm working on the jolla - the ones from the server are send to the device correct15:55
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qroshmfuu: I would suggest asking this question at #jollamobile16:07
inffymfuuu, two-way-sync is not available yet16:08
mfuuuah ok thanks16:08
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qroshcan someone explain to me why sometimes with acceptDestination:foo and acceptDestinationInstance with are working but not if exchanged?16:09
coderusjuke_: mobility splitted to qt5 components. for example Qt5Contacts, Qt5Location and i.e.16:11
coderusjuke_: everything available for development, but some of them not allowed for Harbour yet.16:12
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juke_coderus, thanks. any ideas where would i find documentation for those new modules?16:15
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juke_cloning the module's repo and make docs did the trick16:21
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fk_lxhow to remove setting from Android app install in Sailfish OS?16:28
Skorpydeztructor: about the contextkit-monitor, do I give it the whole path (/run/state/...) or do I just give it the stuff after the /run/state/namespaces directory?16:33
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Skorpydeztructor: and do I put slashes between or dots or something? like Internet/NetworkName or Internet.NetworkName16:33
fk_lxor should this question be sent to Myriad Group?16:33
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deztructorSkorpy: full path like path16:37
deztructorso, /run/state/namespaces/Internet16:38
Skorpyah, ok now I get some output! thank you!16:39
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amonkwhat are recommended partition sizes for sailfish (min and comfortable)?  tia16:48
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juke_i'm trying to install a package (qt5-qtsystems) using sailfishos ide. i get an error message "No provider of 'qt5-qtsystems' found."16:58
lbtamonk: there aren't any atm17:01
amonkheh.  you man there aren't any written down. lol17:01
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lbtcorrect; we tend to type nowadays.17:02
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amonkpedantic absurdity17:10
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lbtah, I see, when you say "you mean there aren't any written down" it's funny;  when I say it, it's pedantic and absurd... OK; sure :)  Either way that's something which I doubt there is any detailed information about. Glad I took the time to answer you.17:16
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amonkyes.  my pedantry had a legitimate point, which was to point out that your assertion that "there aren't any" is not only unhelpful, but patently absurd.  surely some people have made such recommendations to others along the way to this point, so i tried to make disclosure of the absurdity (yeah) of your negation at least humorous.17:33
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amonkfurther, i didn't ask for "detailed" and you didn't "answer" me; you merely responded... negatively.17:34
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amonkand you didn't "say it" (as in the same point).  You argued that we type more than write these days, which is totally irrelevant and, yes, absurdly pedantic. ;-P17:41
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mfulzhi how can I become root on sailfishos?17:49
Pnuumfulz: better to use devel-su17:49
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SfietKonstantinmfulz: get dev mode17:49
SfietKonstantinsetup a password in "ssh connection" fields17:50
SfietKonstantinopen terminal (or ssh)17:50
SfietKonstantinand devel-su followed by the setup password17:50
whipplercan  i somehow enable haptics/vibrate on button pres (icon button)17:52
mfulzah thanks devel-su was the missing part :)17:54
mfulzis there a openvpn client available?17:55
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qwazixhow do I force the window to maximize upon cover action?17:58
qwazixshould I call window.raise() from c++ or is there a JS way to do it?17:58
whipplerqwazzix mainWindow.activate()18:00
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whipplerwhile mainWindows is the id of applicationWindow18:00
qwazixI wonder why it doesn't work as expected...18:02
qwazixweird! It does when invoked by the icon, but not if you run it from qtcreator18:04
qwazixwhippler, thanks18:04
whipplerAny idea on how to vibrate on button press?18:05
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DarkSimAnyone own a Jolla yet?18:17
w00ti'd hope quite a few, at this point :p18:17
Nicd-I do18:17
DarkSimHow is the performance and stability of the phone18:18
Pnuugood enough for me atleast :-)18:19
Nicd-performance is good18:19
Nicd-the only lags happen with the browser and android apps18:19
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Pnuuand my coding my own app..18:20
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DarkSimNo overheating?18:25
whippleryah i got jolla :)18:26
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Nicd-DarkSim: it gets pretty hot sometimes but doesn't overheat18:28
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FryeI've seen lag when switching between wireless & 3G18:38
qwazixgrrr... either it is too hard to push a page from the cover, or I am doing something insanely wrong. Is there an example somewhere?18:40
mfulzbattery time is not good instead of that I'm happy18:40
w00tqwazix: "push a page from the cover"?18:40
w00tas in "maximize application and display a different page"?18:40
mfulzand only one way exchange sync :(18:40
Pnuuqwazix: check the hello world pro18:40
qwazixw00t, yeah, when the user does an action on the cover, I want a page to be pushed18:41
qwazixlet's say "new message"18:41
qwazixPnuu, thx, I'll have a look18:41
Pnuuah, that isn't in the hw pro..18:41
mfulzis anyone working on a carddav / caldav sync?18:41
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DarkSimWould be nice with a smartphone that you basically couldn't drain in 24 hours18:43
DarkSimwithout having to have a big chunk of plastic18:44
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mfulzhehe for me the phones could be bigger when a battery is used for the sapce18:44
mfulzatm. I'm using a S3 with zerolemon 7000mAh battery that hold up 7 days :)18:45
mfulzbut I need two way sync for contacts :(18:45
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sunkanWhen I launch the QML app with SailfishApp::main() can I then interact with C++ objects/functions or do I need to launch the QML app in a different way?19:36
sunkanHave tried other ways but then import Sailfush.Silica in the .qml file does not work..19:37
Milo-sunkan this should help you on your mission :)19:37
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sunkanMilo-: Thanks, have been there.. But I guess I need to read more to understand then, will go through it again..19:39
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Milo-sunkan did you follow the "See Exposing Attributes of C++ Types to QML" link for more information?19:41
Milo-I haven't experimented with sailfish sdk yet, so I don't know if that makes much sense.19:43
sunkanNo I don't think I have tried that, although all I have tried so far fails to run the QML even without trying to interact with C++. The main issue I have with the Qt examples is that they can't then import sailfish stuff in QML.19:45
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XenGiwhat package manager is on the jolla device? can't find zypper or yum.20:01
tevepkcon, one can install zypper with pkcon install zypper20:01
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lbtjuke_: did you get sorted out /20:25
lbtI tried and got the same issue - which is odd20:25
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sunkanMilo-: Got something working now.. I think my problem was with how I tried to create the QGuiApplication (or lack thereof) ;)20:38
Milo-sunkan So what tricks did you have to do in the main()?20:39
sunkanQGuiApplication *app = SailfishApp::application(argc, argv);20:42
sunkanAnd then: return app->exec()20:42
lbtFWIW this is how I do it for a single simple object which can offer slots and signals as QML methods/events :
Milo-and that automatically links your qml to cpp?20:42
sunkanlbt's paste looks similar, but is probably more correct than my guesswork ;)20:44
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janmalteWhere can i get the latest version of Sailfish OS ported to the N9?20:46
janmalteWith the current installed version (SourenAraya's image) the mobile braodband is not working20:46
janmalteI really would like to use sailfish, but need mobile broadband and whatsapp running20:47
juke_lbt, i realized that i really wanted to add a dependency to the yaml-file and that worked. but thanks for asking!20:47
lbtjuke_: ok, good20:48
joecooljanmalte: it works, you need to add the APN20:56
janmalteok, sounds logical20:57
janmaltewhere can i find the settings for it?20:57
joecooljanmalte: settings > system settings > mobile network20:57
joecoolhold down on the one that says internet up on top and a menu will pop open20:57
janmalteOk, i will have a look at it when i restart the phone tomorrow20:58
joecoolhit edit on that menu20:58
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janmaltethanks a lot for now20:58
* joecool saves the day again20:58
janmaltejust one last question: Android support is still not available for Sailfish on the N9, right?20:58
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valdur55janmalte: yes,  you are right.21:02
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Jonnijanmalte: yes, it never will be.21:10
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janmaltewell, thats poor, but fair. I just need a whatsapp client21:16
janmaltemore is not neccessary and maybe will not, if there are good sailfish native ones21:16
janmaltethanks for your information21:16
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qroshhey can someone look over my code and tell me why the chooser dialog variable pass through is not workin? I hacked it with a global var to work, but I do not like this as it is kinda 'dirty'21:30
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M4rtinKany Idea how to format a micro SD card so that Sailfish will automount it ?21:50
qroshM4rtinK I think it was exFat or Fat32 or vFat21:52
Nicd-exfat is not supported21:52
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qroshdoes btrfs automount work?21:54
M4rtinKqrosh: well I guess I can try :)21:59
M4rtinKqrosh: someone already reported that BTRFS on the uSD works22:00
M4rtinKqrosh: but not if it meant automount or manual mounting22:00
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Nicd-probably manual22:01
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M4rtinKit is just that I have a 64GB card and would rather avoid formatting it to FAT32 :)22:02
M4rtinKdefets the purpose of having such a big card a bit :)22:03
M4rtinKok then, lets try BTRFS :)22:03
qroshI know it supports ext4 and btrfs but I have no clue about auto mount on these formats22:04
M4rtinKwell, the script does this:22:05
M4rtinKmount $SDCARD $MNT -o uid=$DEF_UID,gid=$DEF_GID22:05
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M4rtinKbut according to jake9xx, the mount command in this context behaves differently to the normal one22:06
whipplerM4rtinK: depends what files you have. Mines filled with flac music, 4GB size cap isnt a problem22:06
whipplerAnyone know how i would get vibrate on button press, on my buttons?22:07
M4rtinKwell, the 4GB max size is not that much of an issue22:08
M4rtinKbut minimal file size is :)22:08
M4rtinKis you store a few thousand map tiles on it22:08
M4rtinKand everyone of them has 64kB22:08
M4rtinKthat's an issue :)22:08
whipplerah :)22:08
M4rtinKwhile modRana now supports storing tiles in a sqlite database22:10
M4rtinKthis can still be an issue with similar many-large-files workloads22:10
M4rtinKcard formatted, let's see22:11
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M4rtinKqrosh: hmm, not working22:14[1305]: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mmcblk1p122:14
jake9xxM4rtinK: I'm hacking the script, back soon22:17
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M4rtinKjake9xx: ok, thanks! :)22:17
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qwazixlocusf, you've got PR :-)22:32
FryeThere's a script that works for me with the SD card22:32
Frye64GB Sdcard and btrfs22:33
qroshdoes xmlhttprequest work for local files?22:33
qroshor are there some security constraints?22:34
M4rtinKFrye: interesting! :)22:34
Fryelet me check I think I use that to load local license22:34
Fryeqrosh, new XMLHttpRequest();22:35
FryeSo Yes it worls for local files22:35
Fryejake9xx, I think there is already a fix for the mount-sd in nemo repos. Base on the url above.22:36
qroshFrye thanks a lot! by the way how did you manage to get your variable pass-through on dialogs done? I have solved my issue with an '#22:36
qrosh* dirty usage of global variables22:37
FryeI set the variables while calling the pageStack.push22:37
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qroshpageStack.pus(SecondWizard {foo = bar}) ??22:38
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FryepageStack.push("pages/MyDialog.qml", { "gameScore": gameCanvas.score, "gameTime": gameTime, "boardSize": boardSize});22:38
qroshwell thats for starting the dialog, but I mean when changing from dialogPage1 to dialogPage222:39
FryeI think it would still work like that22:40
Fryeprovided you have all the required variables on the dialog 122:40
qroshI will check ty22:41
qroshok that pageStack.push(...) only exists for the entering of the dialog, after that I use "acceptDestination: foo"22:43
mfulzhow can I add two pages to an application when starting so that I can use forward to go to the next page?22:44
whippleri think those are called attached pages22:45
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mfulzhm I cannot find it here
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M4rtinKFrye, jake9xx: so I can confirm that that fix from Nemo works22:51
M4rtinKeven for EXT422:51
whipplermfulz: pageStack.pushAttached()22:52
whipplerpart of pageStack22:53
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mfulzthanks and how can I add this inside of a qml file?22:54
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whipplerand if you want to attach it when the page load, put it in Component.onCompleted { pageStack...}22:58
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whipplermfulz: hmm im not really sure, havent used attached pages yet23:04
mfulzI think inside the qml I always need a property: value thing?23:04
mfulzbut don't know what to use for that23:05
jake9xxhello Venemo23:07
jake9xxmfulz: think of javascript bindings - it's that simple23:07
mfulzdo you have an example for attached pages?23:08
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whipplermfulz: check componentGallery, PageStack.qml23:09
Venemohi jake9xx :)23:10
whipplermfulz: its attaching a component to second page by id23:10
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whipplerpageStack.push(nextPage, {}, operationType);23:11
whippler Component {id: nextPage...}23:11
mfulzyes I got the basic idea but how to put it together I'm missing some total trivial thing about the whole concept I think23:12
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mfulza.e. I've the firstpage.qml just the basic template app in qtcreator23:13
lbtI think the issue is that a lot of Page navigation is declarative23:14
mfulzwhat do I need to add to firstpage.qml main.qml to attache secondpage.qml to it?23:14
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whipplernot sure how you would attach another .qml, the component callery attaches from same page23:15
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mfulzhow / where do I need to call the pageStack.pushAttached ?23:18
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whipplerinside Component.onCompleted { } if you want it there when the page is loaded23:19
mfulzand where is that23:19
whipplerPage{ Component.onComple....23:19
whipplerput it inside the page23:19
lbt_whippler: ie in an onCompleted : { page.pushAttached() }  nested in the Page {} ...23:20
mfulzah now23:20
lbt_given the Page has an id: page23:20
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whipplerokey... how would i vibrate on button pres?23:22
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lbtwhippler: import QtFeedback 5.0  HapticsEffect23:25
whipplerokey, how do i use it?23:25
lbtI'm not sure if it's a supported API atm23:25
lbtthere are no docs in my (old) SDK23:25
mfulzhm still doesn't work23:26
mfulzI've now one page id: page23:26
mfulzand another page id: nextpage23:26
whipplerso if im pushing to harbour, i should not use haptics?23:26
lbtmfulz: that says I was wrong23:26
lbtwhippler: I'll check23:26
mfulzah it will be called when it's too  late23:27
lbtwhippler: it doesn't seem to be on the OK list I'm afraid23:28
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whipplerso i shouldnt worry about getting that to work then23:28
lbtcorrect... I found this though :
lbtso you may want to experiment for non-harbour use23:29
lbtor for a community repo23:29
whipplerall keep that in mind23:30
lbtmfulz: why do you say that?23:32
mfulz<lbt> mfulz: that says I was wrong ?23:33
lbtah .. only that you seem to need to use Component.onCompleted ... I personally expected Page {} to have an onCompleted signal23:34
mfulzah ok23:34
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mfulzso what I did was in page id: page i added Component.onCompleted: pageStack.pushAttached("SecondPage.qml") but I'm unable to move to this page with swipe from right to left23:35
distmfulz: the dot appears there still on the top indicating another page, right?23:37
mfulzthat's the problem23:37
distoh, damn. nevermind then =D23:39
lbtmfulz: it didn't work if I did that in the Page {} itself23:41
lbtI suspect that what is happening is that Page {id: page} gets created. the event fires and *then* the page is pushed onto the stack by the initialPage: mapping23:42
lbtso if you try to do pushAttached inside the Page... the stack is actually empty at that point23:42
lbtso yeah, damned confusing :D23:43
lbtbut maybe one of our QML experts will explain it better and show a better way to do it23:43
lbtwhen the new Q&A site opens, ask in there23:43
mfulzah great thank you so much !23:44
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mfulzso now I just need to know how the qml is working with code together :D never used that before23:46
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mfulzwhere is the entry point for own code? In the examples there is just a call return SailfishApp::main(argc, argv);23:48
distHmm, is there example qml somewhere with silicalistview, pageheader and subheaders in the list?23:48
mfulzI mean that here:
dist(or hmm. are those just SilicaFlickables with a Column on them. Let's say just the settings root menu on jolla for example)23:52
mfulzyes now I'm trying to understand where to put functionality in the code23:53
jake9xxmfulz: SailfishApp::main invokes the 'appname'.qml which is your entry point23:53
mfulzyep but a.e. in normal c/c++ I would go and run my code inside the main, like intantiating a class and doing work23:54
jake9xxqml is declarative language, it does not work like that23:55
mfulzso I'm going to attach functionality to some qml thinks, like buttons23:55
jake9xxqml = ui definition/markup23:55
jake9xxqml binds with javascript directly so you can call your javascript w/o extra magic. If you want to have c++ there, you can have a c++ plugin23:56
mfulzhm I thought Qt is c++?23:56
jake9xxmfulz: you add 'Button' to QML for layout, please look at tutorials and examples in the SDK, they should give you an answer23:57
jake9xxQt itself is c++ yes, QtQuick2 (QML2) is using Qt below the surface23:57

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