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| M4rtinK | well, I think just watching that 45 minute Linuxconf-AU Walyand video is enough :) | 00:01 |
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| M4rtinK | eq. X-being quite the trainwreck :) | 00:02 |
| M4rtinK | *Wayland video | 00:02 |
| Hurrian | M4rtinK: tearing disappearing from Nemo after the Wayland switch says it all ;) | 00:02 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, aside of those task switcher artifacts it is indeed running quite well in Nemo :) | 00:04 |
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| jabbounet | hello all | 00:37 |
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| jabbounet | I've a question on mediagallery sample provided with sailfish sdk, I'm wondering from where is taken the path url for images? I've added some logs and found that image are located in «/home/nemo/Pictures/Jolla/...» but I didn't find where is taken this path (no reference to this path in files present in project), is it some defaut attribute of an object in the project or I missed something? | 00:47 |
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| Elleo | jabbounet: just took a quick glance at it, looks like it uses a DocumentGalleryModel, which as I understand it asks tracker for all the files of the requested type (tracker maintains an index of certain files, like photos, music, videos, etc.) | 00:57 |
| Elleo | so you don't have to explicitly tell it to look in a certain location for photos, it'll find all the photos in your Pictures directory and on your sdcard | 00:57 |
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| jabbounet | ok I found the documentation about this DocumentGalleryModel, I'm going to look how it works, thanks a lot | 01:02 |
| Elleo | no problem :) | 01:03 |
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| jabbounet | bye all | 01:46 |
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| mattaustin | Anyone going to Linux Conf Australia 2014? | 03:33 |
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| atlaz | Whats this, an update for my phone? | 05:27 |
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| atlaz | bah, just some store-fix | 05:33 |
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| ericcc_ | hello | 06:55 |
| atlaz | Morning | 06:55 |
| tuukkah | hmm, my phone had switched itself off during the night. how do i check what happened before? | 07:00 |
| tuukkah | journalctl has option --this-boot, but even without that option it's still showing me just this boot | 07:01 |
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| zuh | tuukkah: the journal is dumped between boots, but I *think* you should be able to make it store it permanently just by creating /var/log/journal/ | 07:26 |
| zuh | ...and eventually run out of storage space so caution with that... :) | 07:26 |
| tuukkah | 16GB should be enough for quite some logs :-) | 07:27 |
| zuh | You'd think | 07:27 |
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| zuh | and then something verbose goes in a crash loop and it's a matter of hours :P | 07:28 |
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| tuukkah | there's /var/log/wpa_supplicant.log, but it doesn't contain timestamps :-( | 07:28 |
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| tuukkah | ok, i created /var/log/journal for next time. thanks zuh! | 07:30 |
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| Frye | Ok, any of the harbour guys here. I'm wondering if I have missed something since the app is not in the store yet. Or 20h still within normal gap between approval and store visibility? | 08:31 |
| zuh | Frye: Yes, there's still manual steps between approval and store so it could take some time | 08:32 |
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| Frye | Ok, might be a good idea to put it in the FAQ. | 08:33 |
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| Acce | Hey, how should I refer to the header inside silicaListView? I have a search field there, but using alias like in the documentation yields "unable to find id headerItem" | 08:41 |
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| flux | meh, Bluetooth Low Energy is not yet ready, but they do target Qt5.3: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-31719 | 08:47 |
| flux | I guess Jolla doesn't provide any special replacement interfaces, just use bluez directly? | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | well, even bluez lags in that regard | 08:48 |
| flux | at least gatttool that comes with bluez has worked fine for my tests | 08:48 |
| flux | also hcitool lescan works (but only as root) | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | ok, that's good to know | 08:48 |
| flux | but I'm sure I would quite prefer the Qt interface if it existed 8-) | 08:49 |
| flux | (actually a WIP change is available already, linked from that bug) | 08:49 |
| flux | but if my goal is to get something ready to talk with TI SensorTag during the christmas holidays, the best option is probably going with bluez.. | 08:50 |
| tuukkah | zuh, i rebooted the phone to test and /var/log/journal is still empty, so i suppose some systemd configuration is still needed | 08:51 |
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| zuh | tuukkah: hmh, ok. I guess the default Storage setting is set to something other than auto then (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd#Journal ) | 08:52 |
| tuukkah | /etc/systemd/journald.conf Storage=volatile | 08:52 |
| zuh | right | 08:52 |
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| Skorpy | is there a way tom emulate pinch gesture in the emulator? | 09:01 |
| Skorpy | s/tom/to/ | 09:01 |
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| tuukkah | zuh, thanks again, works now | 09:06 |
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| rcg | Morpog_Mobile, thx again for the icon templates :) | 09:13 |
| jake9xx | Skorpy: in the works, coming in future | 09:14 |
| rcg | Morpog_Mobile, maybe just one remark, as is right now the icons are made to fill the entire space of 86x86. it seems that for the "ghost shape" there is a slight rendering/export issue that causes a little "distortion" at the outer point of the round part | 09:14 |
| rcg | i scaled it just a little down and this fixes that | 09:15 |
| rcg | jfyi | 09:15 |
| Skorpy | jake9xx: ok, thanks | 09:15 |
| Skorpy | then how do I install the application to my phone? :P | 09:16 |
| Skorpy | I've got the rpm, but it wont install | 09:16 |
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| Acce | Skorpy: pkcon install-local package.rpm | 09:18 |
| Acce | if I remember correctly | 09:18 |
| Skorpy | ah, right, of course | 09:18 |
| jake9xx | Acce: yes, that's the way | 09:20 |
| Skorpy | hmmm... installation doesn't show any errors, but I don't see the app in the menu. | 09:22 |
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| jake9xx | Skorpy: which app? | 09:22 |
| Skorpy | my own little test | 09:23 |
| jake9xx | use root with devel-su and do journalctl -fa in another window when you run that installation command | 09:24 |
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| Skorpy | ok | 09:24 |
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| Skorpy | Dec 19 11:25:19 localhost packagekitd[759]: Before commit: 0 downloads, 0 installs, 0 removals | 09:25 |
| Skorpy | that's all | 09:25 |
| Skorpy | I bet my yaml file is all wrong. not sure though | 09:26 |
| tuukkah | Skorpy, check if your .desktop file was installed | 09:29 |
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| tuukkah | Skorpy, /usr/share/applications | 09:30 |
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| Skorpy | yea, not there | 09:31 |
| Pnuu | if I have a qml gui (eg. just one file), can I somehow test it in the phone? | 09:31 |
| Pnuu | something like ./testgui ? | 09:31 |
| Skorpy | tuukkah: hmm... no executable to be found either... :D | 09:32 |
| tuukkah | Skorpy, there's some command you can use to inspect the contents of an rpm file even without installing it | 09:32 |
| tuukkah | Pnuu, harbour faq mentions sailfish-qml for that, but it's not present on the phone and i haven't found more information | 09:33 |
| Pnuu | tuukkah: ok, thanks | 09:33 |
| Pnuu | my laptop is so slow, that no chance to run the sdk :-P | 09:34 |
| Pnuu | and ubuntu 12.04 has only qt4 | 09:34 |
| tuukkah | Pnuu, there are apps with a trivial binary that just loads the qml. you could replace the qml file of one of those | 09:35 |
| Skorpy | tuukkah: it contains all the files | 09:35 |
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| tuukkah | Pnuu, e.g. helloworld pro in the store | 09:38 |
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| tuukkah | Skorpy, no idea why they wouldn't be installed when the rpm installs | 09:39 |
| Frye | Skorpy are you sure you are using rpm built for arm? | 09:40 |
| Pnuu | tuukkah: ok, will check that | 09:40 |
| Skorpy | Frye: no, I had the i486. | 09:40 |
| Pnuu | lost my sleep last night because I started to plan the gui :-P | 09:40 |
| Skorpy | so I guess that's the problem? :P | 09:40 |
| Frye | I would guess so too :-) | 09:41 |
| Frye | Just select the arm deploy as building rpm target | 09:41 |
| tuukkah | wouldn't it be nice to get an error message in that case %-) | 09:41 |
| Frye | And run build->deploy from the menu | 09:41 |
| Frye | tuukkah, more than nice I'd say | 09:41 |
| tuukkah | Pnuu, after you install it, you should be able to edit /usr/share/harbour-helloworld-pro-sailfish/qml/main.qml | 09:42 |
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| Skorpy | tuukkah, Frye: installed now, thanks :) | 09:44 |
| Skorpy | altough it crashes on start... :D | 09:45 |
| Skorpy | starts from command line though | 09:45 |
| Pnuu | tuukkah: yay! learning begins | 09:49 |
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| leszek | hi | 10:02 |
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| leszek | is it possible to arrange a textfield within a header of a silicalistview without moving the whole listview ? | 10:04 |
| leszek | scenario: listview with pullmenu for a todo list with a todolisttitle which should be editable | 10:05 |
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| prometoys | hi, I just got my jolla device. Can I reset it to factory defaults afterwards (so I get the welcome screens/setup again)? | 10:17 |
| Stskeeps | yes, there's a reset functionality in settings | 10:17 |
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| prometoys | Stskeeps, thanks. no I can just start with like a kid with a xmas gift and later do the serious review ;) | 10:19 |
| prometoys | Stskeeps, first impression: looks good, nice job | 10:19 |
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| Skorpy | does Page have a signal which triggers when you pop it from the pageStack? | 10:34 |
| Skorpy | or does something have a signal like that? | 10:34 |
| Skorpy | I have a page which runs a xmlhttprequest and would like to abort it if I leave the page | 10:35 |
| lbt | Skorpy: check out 'Active' property (iirc) | 10:36 |
| lbt | nope... I didn't ... check out the 'status' property :) | 10:37 |
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| leszek | Skorpy: I always used the onStatusChanged signal and there in particulary for if (status === PageStatus.Deactivating) | 10:38 |
| lbt | and .. if you were not aware; all properties have an implicit on${Property}Change event | 10:38 |
| Skorpy | thanks, both of you :) | 10:39 |
| leszek | Skorpy: here is an example line 14: https://github.com/llelectronics/noto/blob/master/qml/pages/Note.qml | 10:39 |
| Skorpy | lbt: yes, aware of that :P | 10:39 |
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| lbt | the context docs are pretty good too - F1 in the SDK | 10:39 |
| lbt | and apologies if you're an expert :) | 10:40 |
| Skorpy | well certainly not an expert :D but little experience with QML already. | 10:40 |
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| leszek | lbt: hmm... honestly I think the context docs in the sdk miss a lot | 10:42 |
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| jake9xx | leszek: the docs update as we go, coverage for all components is not there yet | 10:43 |
| jake9xx | leszek: plus if there are some un-supported qml api's in the code (like nemo-qml-plugins at the moment are not officially supported) you get nothing | 10:44 |
| Frye | This link on the docs seem to always be empty: List of all members, including inherited members | 10:44 |
| Frye | For someone like me that would be really useful. | 10:45 |
| Frye | It's empty both in sdk and on the web reference. | 10:45 |
| Frye | But I guess the source for both is the same. | 10:45 |
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| leszek | hmm... some advice for translating qml apps. Should I use qsTr() or i18n() ? | 10:50 |
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| Acce | is there some kind of notifications in Silica? like the ones that appear on the top of the screen | 10:54 |
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| Pnuu | yay, first mockup | 12:00 |
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| qrosh | hello | 12:11 |
| qrosh | can someone help me with the following issue: | 12:11 |
| qrosh | first of all am I here correct for sailfish app development? | 12:12 |
| Frye | Yep | 12:12 |
| Pnuu | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12078191/saappi_1.png | 12:13 |
| Pnuu | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12078191/saappi_2.png | 12:13 |
| Nicd- | Pnuu: active cover? | 12:13 |
| jake9xx | Pnuu: looks nice | 12:13 |
| Frye | Whoa, perfect. | 12:13 |
| Pnuu | Nicd-: just a mockup so far :-) | 12:13 |
| Nicd- | Pnuu: looks nice so far, I'll surely install it :) | 12:13 |
| Frye | Pnuu, Where can I get this :D | 12:13 |
| qrosh | nice | 12:13 |
| Wnt | is it possible to debug what contactsd does on the device? It's often consuming 50% - 90% cpu on my phone | 12:13 |
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| JvD_ | quite cold | 12:13 |
| Pnuu | there's no functionality behind.. | 12:13 |
| JvD_ | =) | 12:14 |
| Pnuu | I'd need python stuff first | 12:14 |
| jake9xx | Wnt: under work already, dunno if next update has fixes for it or not | 12:14 |
| Pnuu | and that'll need also personal apikey for the FMI open data | 12:14 |
| Wnt | jake9xx: are there any workarounds? | 12:14 |
| jake9xx | Wnt: shell -> kill contactsd (or restart it nicely with systemctl) | 12:15 |
| Wnt | e.g. would using offline mode for all accounts help? | 12:15 |
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| jake9xx | Wnt: might be, but that's a question more for #jollamobile | 12:15 |
| pp_ | python3.3 + pyotherside seems to work quite nicely | 12:16 |
| Pnuu | pp_: but would need external repositories :-/ | 12:16 |
| pp_ | currently, but I thought harbour will soon support the combo? | 12:16 |
| Pnuu | hope so :-) | 12:17 |
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| Wnt | Pnuu: what are you planning on using as the data source? | 12:22 |
| Pnuu | Wnt: FMI open data with user's personal apikey | 12:23 |
| Pnuu | Wnt: http://en.ilmatieteenlaitos.fi/open-data-manual | 12:23 |
| Pnuu | hmm, or maybe this is more informational: http://en.ilmatieteenlaitos.fi/open-data | 12:24 |
| Wnt | Pnuu: so each user must request their own api key before using the app? | 12:24 |
| Pnuu | yes, as I don't have means to cache data on my own server | 12:24 |
| Wnt | I was actually looking at the data they provide few days ago myself | 12:25 |
| Pnuu | and, well, I'm just doing something to practice qml :-) | 12:25 |
| Wnt | and also contacted FMI if they could allow more requests per api key for a mobile app like this | 12:25 |
| Wnt | but no response from them yet | 12:25 |
| Pnuu | I work at FMI my self, but on snow research and satellite data.. | 12:26 |
| Wnt | also asked them if it's allowed to use the JSON interface their HTML5 app uses http://m.fmi.fi/saa | 12:26 |
| Wnt | that data would be in a format that is much easier to develop against | 12:27 |
| Pnuu | yeah, for sure | 12:27 |
| Pnuu | that stuff coming from WMS is ugly as hell | 12:27 |
| Wnt | indeed, but FMI provides a javascript library that helps using the data | 12:28 |
| Pnuu | for me the javascript is not a help at all :-D | 12:29 |
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| coderus | anybody tried QContactFetchRequest on Sailfish? | 12:33 |
| coderus | its always returning zero contacts for me :( | 12:33 |
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| jardous | Hello guys. In Time and Date settings. If I select Automatic update it wrongly resets my timezone to Helsinki. If I have the time set manually, the clock slows down by cca 3 minutes a day. | 12:49 |
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| Elleo | jardous: that's easy to fix; just move to Helsinki ;) | 12:51 |
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| jake9xx | coderus: you might be better off to instantiate a QContactManager and get contacts() from that | 12:53 |
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| jardous | Elleo: thanks ;) which bugzilla should I report it to? | 12:56 |
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| Elleo | jardous: as far as I'm aware there isn't a public bugzilla for sailfish yet | 12:57 |
| Elleo | mostly I just mumble about stuff on irc until someone takes pity on me :P | 12:57 |
| Stskeeps | fwiw | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | "Jolla believes in co-creation and wants to empower its users to participate | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | in developing Jolla continuously further and better. To facilitate co- | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | creation and collect feedback, Jolla will be opening a portal at | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | together.jolla.com where customers can discuss and vote on which features | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | they would like to see in Jolla, report issues and submit ideas." | 12:58 |
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| coderus | jake9xx: i like asynchronous things :) | 12:58 |
| Elleo | Stskeeps: ah, great | 12:58 |
| Pnuu | Stskeeps: yay! | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | this is from press release today | 12:58 |
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| jardous | ok - we have to wait then :) | 13:00 |
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| jardous | btw - I though about reporting it to the Nemo's bugzilla but all the entries there looks a bit outdated | 13:02 |
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| Frye | Hmm, the screenshots I put when submitting for approval are in reverse orde on the store :-( | 13:15 |
| Frye | Well that can be easily fixed ( I hope ) with the next update. | 13:16 |
| Nicd- | your game is in the store? | 13:17 |
| Frye | Yep | 13:18 |
| Nicd- | downloading now :) | 13:18 |
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| Frye | There are some silly typos in the description too =( Eventhough I made ppl read it before I submitted it :D | 13:19 |
| Frye | But those can be hopefully fixed easily too :D | 13:19 |
| Nicd- | frye, you have a stone types slider with only two options | 13:20 |
| Nicd- | and it displays as float | 13:20 |
| Frye | -> off to fill in issue tracker | 13:22 |
| Frye | brb | 13:22 |
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| cos- | i'm about to ask this on mailing list soon, but i'll ask here first: any idea why virtual keyboard is displayed when my app is started? | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | got any text fields? | 13:44 |
| cos- | TextEdit's, but they are all set to focus: false | 13:45 |
| cos- | they are all in this element https://github.com/vranki/siilihai-mobile/blob/master/qml/siilihai-mobile-nocomponents/widgets/SimpleTextEdit.qml | 13:46 |
| cos- | i think normally user should tap on a text edit to display vkb | 13:46 |
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| cos- | vkb is not displayed if i create a TextEdit in the sailfish hello world-app for some reason. | 13:47 |
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| cos- | my app does not use silica components, but it shouldn't matter | 13:48 |
| jake9xx | cos-: you might wanna put Component.onCompleted() { console.log("Textedit created"); } there | 13:48 |
| Trizt | just a question, may be stupid, but anyway: how do you display a banner without the usage of mlite5? | 13:48 |
| jake9xx | if you see it in trace, your object gets constructed automatically | 13:48 |
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| cos- | jake9xx: should the way they are constructed matter? some are created automatically and some dynamically in list delegates. | 13:50 |
| cos- | none of them are tapped by user and all have focus: false | 13:50 |
| jake9xx | maybe if you create a TextEdit component automatically it might trigger loading it on ui | 13:51 |
| coderus | Trizt: maybe just create some Rectangle and Label inside it and so on. | 13:52 |
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| nander | Does anyone know how to enable the jolla store on the n9? | 13:53 |
| nander | It keeps saying installation failed | 13:53 |
| Trizt | don't feel completely a nice solution, so no real API for banners :( | 13:53 |
| jake9xx | nander: jolla store does not accept anything but jolla devices, sorry | 13:54 |
| jussi | nander: there are ways ;) I have it on n950 | 13:55 |
| coderus | nander: just read thread on TMO :) | 13:55 |
| jake9xx | officially | 13:55 |
| coderus | jake9xx: hehe :) | 13:55 |
| jussi | yeah, officially, no store. unnofficially, look on TMO | 13:55 |
| cos- | jake9xx: yep, it displays "onCompleted:15 - Textedit created" a bunch of times at the startup. | 13:56 |
| coderus | btw, what is the best way to draw that nice glow pulldown indicator& | 13:57 |
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| coderus | ? | 13:57 |
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| jake9xx | VDVsx__: ^ see coderus question | 13:57 |
| coderus | ah, nvm, found that MenuIndicator component :) | 13:59 |
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| jake9xx | kewl | 14:00 |
| * jake9xx is looking fwd to mitäkuuluu :) | 14:00 | |
| VDVsx__ | oki :) | 14:00 |
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| cos- | jake9xx: i added it to print value of focus. one of them has focus se to true for some reason. now debugging more.. | 14:01 |
| coderus | jake9xx: engine working fine, just need to reimplement all features with Silica :) | 14:03 |
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| coderus | experimenting again with new UX :D | 14:03 |
| coderus | new ideas :D | 14:03 |
| * coderus ported all Silica components to harmattan to use with Persecute. | 14:04 | |
| coderus | because i cant found suitable replacement for them. its just great :D | 14:04 |
| coderus | *except pulldown/pushup, its not suitable for harmattan | 14:05 |
| cos- | coderus: nice.. will you package them so that they could be used in other projects also? | 14:07 |
| jake9xx | coderus: so you copy the libs over too? | 14:08 |
| coderus | jake9xx: no, just QML :D | 14:09 |
| coderus | jake9xx: fixed to work with Quick1.1, removed *Glass* and *Theme* and etc. features. | 14:10 |
| coderus | cos-: em. no :D | 14:10 |
| coderus | cos-: its quite easy to do yourself | 14:11 |
| cos- | coderus: ok. but my time is limited and that's why i currently use only standard qml elements in my apps.. | 14:11 |
| coderus | cos-: well. you should choose then | 14:12 |
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| cos- | i "solved" the focus issue with if(focus) { console.log("WTF, why is my focus TRUE??"); focus = false; } | 14:14 |
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| jake9xx | cos-: good, but there is a reason for it.. should be investigated sometime... | 14:18 |
| cos- | one more issue i can demonstrate in an example app: TextEdit's inputMethodHints: Qt.ImhHiddenText | Qt.ImhNoAutoUppercase does not work | 14:19 |
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| cos- | the text is echoed in plain text | 14:19 |
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| cos- | anyone from harbour q&a? should i re-submit a rejected app if it contains fixes but probably won't fix all issues yet? | 15:04 |
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| kontio | cos-: if not all issues which let to the rejection are fixed, then it does not make much sense, which app? | 15:15 |
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| jabbounet | hello all | 15:16 |
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| jabbounet | I'm currently writing a small file explorer to learn how qml works, When I run the application on emulator I'm able to display file list in a SiliciaListView and I'm able to scroll the list, when I'm in the middle of the list I'm not able to activate PullDownMenu (I shoul go back to top to activate it), is there a way to be able to activate pulldown/pushup menu when screen is located in the middle of a long list? | 15:23 |
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| kontio | jabbounet: that is the intended way how the pully menu works, either at the top or at the end of the listview | 15:32 |
| kontio | otherwise it's hard to know, do you still want to scroll the list or the pully menu... | 15:33 |
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| jabbounet | yes I agree it is hard to know, but have the possibility to activate a pull or push menu in the middle of a list could be interesting, I've tried also by swipping from the top of the screen but in this case I go back to the cover, so there is for way to go back to cover (top,down, left, right) but no possibility to have this menu | 15:38 |
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| kontio | jabbounet: no, but items can open a context menu when long pressed... https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-contextmenu.html | 15:46 |
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| jabbounet | ok, but my pull menu have some generic operations like display properties, sorting files, or operation to do when several files are selected, I would have dedicated context menu for some specific operation like open the file, rename it ... | 15:51 |
| veskuh | jabbounet, there is contextmenu available for listitems: https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-contextmenu.html | 16:00 |
| kontio | veskuh: see the line above :-) | 16:01 |
| veskuh | kontio, right :) You are too fast | 16:02 |
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| jabbounet | so this mean pull/push down menu is useless when managing long list, as context menu will contains same operations and contextual operations too... | 16:06 |
| kontio | yeah it's not the solution for everything :-) | 16:07 |
| leinir | tap-and-hold for interacting with each item, pulley menu for page-wide stuff :) | 16:08 |
| leinir | (tap-and-hold being the context menu, sorry) | 16:09 |
| raa70 | does the list need to be fullscreen, can't you have steady header in which you could activate pulley? | 16:09 |
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| jabbounet | yeah but it's annoying to go to top to apply page-wide stuff and get down to same point of the list to see the effect on a specific item.... | 16:10 |
| Eccenux | Hi. Anybody know what is the default root password on Jolla? | 16:11 |
| tuukkah | iphone's always-visible-tap-to-scroll-to-top status bar is useful and could be used to activate pulley as well | 16:12 |
| Pnuu | Eccenux: the one you set in develeoper mode -menu | 16:13 |
| cos- | kontio: siilihai. it would make sense if you keep some kind of log of things that work and can be skipped next time. | 16:13 |
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| jabbounet | and activate pull/push menu when swipping from top/bottom of the screen could be interesting instead of go back to cover (still possible when swipping from left or right) | 16:14 |
| Pnuu | wohoo, I managed to refactor my mockup so that there's now one self-defined element | 16:15 |
| tuukkah | jabbounet, swipe from top is close app and swipe from bottom is go to notifications screen | 16:15 |
| kontio | Eccenux: if you enable developer mode, the password set there can be used with devel-su got gain root... | 16:16 |
| kontio | no default pw for root | 16:16 |
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| Eccenux | @kontio Thanks! It works. | 16:17 |
| kontio | yeah sorry for the jailbreak guys, there is nothing to jailbreak on Jolla ;-p | 16:18 |
| jabbounet | <tuukkah> yes you're right, I'm still begginner with jolla and only have the emulator for the moment | 16:20 |
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| tuukkah | jabbounet, i wonder if the current function design couldn't be improved | 16:22 |
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| tuukkah | for example, why doesn't the pulley menu active with swipe-from-top? | 16:24 |
| tuukkah | close could be one of the menu entries | 16:24 |
| Nicd- | from how top? | 16:25 |
| jabbounet | could depend if developper define a pulley menu, can close the app as actually if there is no pulley menu and automatically add a close in pulley if a menu is defined | 16:26 |
| jabbounet | for instance | 16:26 |
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| tuukkah | Nicd-, the way close is activated now | 16:27 |
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| Nicd- | tuukkah: how would you close an app then? | 16:28 |
| tuukkah | Nicd-, choose the menu item "close" | 16:30 |
| Nicd- | oh please no | 16:31 |
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| whippler | are there any other cover action icons other than the 2, in the IDE | 16:38 |
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| nander | /ponify | 16:41 |
| Wnt | whippler: you can create your own icons or use some of the platforms built in icons | 16:42 |
| Wnt | for example I use a dialpad icon in my application: https://github.com/Wnt/PlanningPoker/blob/master/qml/pages/CardPage.qml#L21 | 16:43 |
| Wnt | but now I cannot remember the directory where all the icons are... | 16:43 |
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| Wnt | whippler: /usr/share/themes/jolla-ambient/meegotouch/icons/ is the directory where the platform's icons are | 16:46 |
| whippler | im not too good with linux yet, where is the usr/share :P | 16:48 |
| marcellux | whippler: it's under /root | 16:49 |
| whippler | ah | 16:49 |
| Pnuu | no, no it's not :-) | 16:51 |
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| Pnuu | the /root is "root" user's (admin) home directory | 16:51 |
| Pnuu | and the root of the directory tree is / | 16:52 |
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| Pnuu | and under that, there's usr, lib, home, root, ... | 16:52 |
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| whippler | hmh | 16:53 |
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| whippler | cant find em :/ | 16:58 |
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| tuukkah | whippler, where/how are you looking? what do you see if you go all the way up and out of the directory hierarchy? | 17:01 |
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| whippler | both terminal and the filebrowser, thats in /home | 17:02 |
| whippler | in terminal from / | 17:02 |
| tuukkah | on the phone? | 17:02 |
| whippler | ? | 17:02 |
| tuukkah | you should be doing this on the phone (or in the emulator) | 17:03 |
| whippler | well thats interesting :D | 17:03 |
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| whippler | well this exist in there "image://theme/icon-cover-previous" but doesnt work, should i get the icons into the project or.. | 17:11 |
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| whippler | hmm so i have cover action set in the main page's cover, but the action also shows up in the other pages cover | 17:15 |
| arisel | did anyone succesfully build a powertop yet? | 17:15 |
| whippler | so cover actions are independent from covers? | 17:16 |
| whippler | i get it now i think... time to look again from the component gallery app :P | 17:17 |
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| tbr | >.< too busy with stuff... | 17:18 |
| tbr | another sailfish meet-up in 45min | 17:18 |
| tbr | no time to actually work on some 'easy' packaging/porting things | 17:19 |
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| whippler | so how do i bring the app full screen from activating a cover action? | 17:25 |
| whippler | propably mainwindow.activate()... yah | 17:27 |
| marcellux | whippler: my bad! it should be like tuukkah said /usr/share/themes/.... I was thinking about other OS... | 17:30 |
| leinir | hmmmm... moment | 17:31 |
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| leinir | the ApplicationWindow Silica element has an activate() function, use that :) | 17:32 |
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| raa70 | do i get a beep and vibration everytime battery drops 1% below 10% | 17:50 |
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| raa70 | cause that's pretty damn annoying, i know the battery is running out, no need to use it more to remind me of it every few minutes | 17:52 |
| raa70 | i could live with a flashing yellow led, and maybe a notification at 5% and 2% | 17:53 |
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| FireFly | Flashing yellow LED could get annoying in the dark though | 18:09 |
| FireFly | Hm, though I guess it's fine since it's kind-of a critical situation | 18:09 |
| Skorpy | the white bright flashing when the battery is recharged is pretty damn annoying. It lights the whole room :/ | 18:11 |
| Skorpy | would love to modify the patterns and colors | 18:11 |
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| FireFly | Agreed | 18:11 |
| leinir | i'd kind of like to have the charging and charged state of that led swapped... that'd sort of be enough for me | 18:12 |
| leinir | it'd still be bright, but it wouldn't be craving attention by flashing ;) | 18:12 |
| Skorpy | hmm... is there a way to disable the lock screen from command line? | 18:15 |
| Skorpy | device lock I mean | 18:15 |
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| Skorpy | hmm... seems like it could be. testing time! :P | 18:18 |
| Skorpy | indeed it is possible. veeeery nice | 18:19 |
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| Skorpy | umm... can I make statefs trigger/run commands somehow? like when a certain wlan is connected? :P | 18:52 |
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| Skorpy | or something else than statefs? | 18:57 |
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| Pnuu | what am I doing wrong? I have ValueRow.qml: http://pastebin.com/1eMN193A | 19:04 |
| Pnuu | and try to use it with: ValueRow { labelTitle: "title:"; valueText: "2.0" } | 19:05 |
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| Pnuu | aargh | 19:06 |
| Pnuu | labelTitle | 19:06 |
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| Pnuu | well, didn't matter at all.. | 19:07 |
| Skorpy | Label {id:title; text: valueRow.valueTitle;} Label {id:value; text: valueRow.valueText;} | 19:09 |
| Skorpy | and remove the title.text and value.text from the property lines | 19:10 |
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| Pnuu | Skorpy: um, what should I have on those property lines? | 19:13 |
| Pnuu | I'm trying to follow this tutorial, but, well, I'm lost :-D http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qml-tutorial2.html | 19:13 |
| Pnuu | or is this something that has changed between 4.x and 5.x? | 19:14 |
| Skorpy | property string valueTitle | 19:14 |
| Skorpy | that's all | 19:14 |
| Skorpy | http://pastebin.com/hefykKqP | 19:15 |
| Skorpy | that should work | 19:15 |
| coderus | where to add paths to global PATH env/ | 19:16 |
| coderus | ? | 19:16 |
| Pnuu | Skorpy: thanks, but no, still something.. :-D | 19:16 |
| Skorpy | oh wait. | 19:17 |
| Skorpy | alias | 19:17 |
| Skorpy | hmm... don't even know how those work.. :D | 19:17 |
| Skorpy | changing them to string should work | 19:17 |
| Pnuu | Skorpy: tried that too, no luck | 19:17 |
| Skorpy | oh | 19:17 |
| Skorpy | so, does it give an error or...? | 19:19 |
| Skorpy | just doesn't show anything? | 19:19 |
| Pnuu | brings up a white screen on the phone | 19:20 |
| Pnuu | my laptop hasn't got the grunt to run sdk, so I'm abusing hello world pro :-) | 19:20 |
| Pnuu | this happened also when I had typos in the qml, I think I should re-re-re-check that | 19:21 |
| Pnuu | but the error is in the ValueRow.qml, because commenting those calls out makes things work | 19:22 |
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| Pnuu | maybe I should try some debug loggin.. | 19:32 |
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| Pnuu | why, oh why!, `more` | 19:36 |
| Pnuu | less is more | 19:37 |
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| Pnuu | aahaha | 19:44 |
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| Pnuu | error was, as usual, between the backrest and the keyboard :-P | 19:44 |
| Pnuu | I didn't copy the fixed ValueRow.qml to the phone | 19:44 |
| Sidde | i'm a bit new to developing in qt. But i'm i right too understand that sailfish has the complete qt framework? So if i want to access the gyro. What do i do? Import the C++ class? Import qml-thingy? | 19:45 |
| Pnuu | Skorpy: thanks and sorry :-D | 19:45 |
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| walokra | is sailfishos default apps code somewhere available? | 20:32 |
| walokra | looking for example like the gallery | 20:32 |
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| jake9xx | walokra: not all | 20:33 |
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| jake9xx | walokra: sdk related stuff is in examples/ and tutorials/ dirs under SailfishOS if you have SDK installed | 20:33 |
| jake9xx | jolla-* packages are not OSS by default | 20:33 |
| walokra | k | 20:34 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | hmm | 20:37 |
| tortoisedoc_ | so | 20:37 |
| tortoisedoc_ | given the fact that qtCreator cannot connect to app on jolla phone directly yet | 20:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | even if I start on phone gdbserver, then connect remotely via qtcreator, it still fails.. | 20:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | or better, nothing happens | 20:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | any sailor can help? | 20:38 |
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| jake9xx | gdbserver broke in 1312 :/ | 20:39 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | aaaaaah :/ | 20:39 |
| tortoisedoc_ | thanks jake9x | 20:39 |
| jake9xx | we're working on it | 20:39 |
| jabbounet | bye all | 20:39 |
| jake9xx | but it will be 1H2014 when it can be put out | 20:39 |
| tortoisedoc_ | jake9xx : so no fix upstream het? | 20:39 |
| jake9xx | basically it's cross gdb for arm | 20:39 |
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| jake9xx | tortoisedoc_: nope, nothing functional | 20:40 |
| tortoisedoc_ | jake9xx : crap | 20:40 |
| tortoisedoc_ | jake9xx : any idea what might be causing it? | 20:40 |
| jake9xx | lack of cross-gdb | 20:40 |
| jake9xx | so.. if you _want_ to hack it | 20:40 |
| jake9xx | 1. get cross gdb on host | 20:40 |
| jake9xx | 2. start the app on command line with gdbserver | 20:41 |
| jake9xx | 3. patch here and there so that connections can be made | 20:41 |
| jake9xx | 4. write it up in wiki so other developers can use it | 20:41 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | jake9xx : so actually it would be 1.3.2.4 :P | 20:42 |
| jake9xx | on SDK we have to support gdb on all platforms so getting it right just for linux might be doable with hacks. To get all dev.platforms in shape - not trivial | 20:42 |
| tortoisedoc_ | jake9xx : absolutely ok. And I am on wind0wze :P | 20:43 |
| jake9xx | tortoisedoc_: something like that :) 1234 was to highlight the flow and I assume you'll face problems after 2 :/ | 20:43 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm but | 20:43 |
| jake9xx | tortoisedoc_: guess what ; so am I - at the moment anyway :) There is no real linux setup for Asus UX32VD yet | 20:43 |
| tortoisedoc_ | one sec | 20:43 |
| tortoisedoc_ | mer machine is build machine | 20:44 |
| jake9xx | yes, and it's a virtual linux | 20:44 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | how does that fit in the qtcreator -> host debugging chain? | 20:45 |
| jake9xx | not at all | 20:45 |
| jake9xx | gdb is ran from host directly | 20:45 |
| jake9xx | otherwise QtC cannot use it w/o _lots_ of tweaks | 20:45 |
| tortoisedoc_ | so qtcreator is gdb clietn | 20:45 |
| jake9xx | yes | 20:45 |
| jake9xx | device then runs gdbserver | 20:46 |
| jake9xx | basically it should work - if you have cross gdb | 20:46 |
| tortoisedoc_ | cross gdb + tweaks | 20:46 |
| tortoisedoc_ | or is gdbserver on device just basic gdbserver? | 20:46 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (for arm) | 20:47 |
| jake9xx | tortoisedoc_: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3502509/remotely-debugging-a-linux-process-from-windows-with-gdb-and-gdbserver-what-exa | 20:47 |
| jake9xx | on device it's std magic | 20:47 |
| jake9xx | ok, time to go to zz, g'nite sailors & sailorettes | 20:48 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | laters | 20:49 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | thanks Jake9xx | 20:49 |
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| deztructor | Skorpy: you can just write a simple application/script using poll()/select() on corresponding statefs file (Internet/NetworkName(NetworkState) and executing some action on changes in 'em | 20:54 |
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| Skorpy | deztructor: doable in bash? | 21:00 |
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| deztructor | Skorpy: maybe, e.g. you can play with preinstalled contextkit-monitor utility (you need to supply path to the namespace to this util) | 21:02 |
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| deztructor | this utility output path and content of the file when it is changed | 21:03 |
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| deztructor | so you can use this data from bash, i hope :) | 21:03 |
| Skorpy | deztructor: thanks. will look into it. | 21:03 |
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| edgars | aaaaaa | 21:13 |
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| edgars | how can i register in appstore | 21:14 |
| edgars | ? | 21:14 |
| Elleo | edgars: as a developer? https://harbour.jolla.com/ | 21:15 |
| edgars | no | 21:16 |
| edgars | as user | 21:16 |
| edgars | got mine today ;) | 21:16 |
| Elleo | iirc you just need at create a jolla account on your phone | 21:16 |
| Elleo | it should be offered as an option during the welcome setup | 21:16 |
| Elleo | otherwise you can probably do it through the Settings -> Accounts screen | 21:17 |
| edgars | yeah | 21:20 |
| edgars | butt | 21:20 |
| edgars | i got Oppsss, some shit happened, please try again later | 21:20 |
| edgars | tried 10 or more times | 21:21 |
| Elleo | ah, I think someone else mentioned having that and fixed it by doing a firmware reset | 21:21 |
| Elleo | not sure if that's the problem that was fixed in the .12 release | 21:21 |
| Elleo | that related to store authentication iirc | 21:21 |
| krandom | any reason why sshd is not listening on IPv4 ? :\ | 21:22 |
| krandom | it worked fine, until now. | 21:23 |
| sdjayna | edgars: you probably already have an account at https://account.jolla.com ? if you're using an email address that's already registered creating a new account will fail | 21:25 |
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| edgars | hmmmm | 21:30 |
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| sunkan | I have an old app for N900 Maemo that uses Qwidget, I got it to compile and run but are there any hints on how to make the GUI more SailfishOS friendly? I have no experience with QML, do I need to use that? | 21:40 |
| Elleo | I think QML is pretty much the only option if you want to use the official silica UI | 21:44 |
| Elleo | I could be mistaken though | 21:45 |
| Elleo | QML's pretty easy to get to grips with though :) | 21:45 |
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| sunkan | Elleo: I'm just browsing through a long PDF that says that widgets should not be used.. I guess I will take the plunge and have a look at the QML stuff then. Just wanted to drop a question before going there. | 21:46 |
| Acce | Is there a way to send those notification messages to the top of the screen from QML? | 21:48 |
| Acce | or are they reserved for system use? | 21:48 |
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| ln- | i've been getting "Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. Server rejected key." ever since updating the SDK a few days ago. known problem? | 21:52 |
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| artemma | How do you get StandardPaths in C++? | 23:37 |
| artemma | I am making a short prototype that involves saving images from network to pictures, so I need to get the pictures folder location | 23:38 |
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| artemma | never mind, I figured it is /home/nemo/pictures Can hard code for a prototype | 23:48 |
| VDVsx | artemma, QStandardPaths ? | 23:49 |
| artemma | VDVsx: just fetched from there too :) | 23:49 |
| artemma | was not sure it will work as for some reason Silica provides own StandardPaths in QML | 23:49 |
| VDVsx | artemma, it calls: QStandardPaths::standardLocations(QStandardPaths::PicturesLocation); so the same | 23:51 |
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| artemma | thanks | 23:52 |
| VDVsx | difference is that Silica gets the first one returned in the list in case they are many defined(does not happen in sailfish by default) | 23:52 |
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