Wednesday, 2013-12-25

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mfulzM4rtinK: If you're interested, normal validator stops input wrong text as well in this case validator: IntValidator { bottom:1; top: 65535}00:03
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M4rtinKmfulz: nice, good to know :)00:31
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mfulzcan someone help me with a SiliciaFlickable? I've content that excceeds the screen height but it doesn't let me scroll01:55
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Elleomfulz: could you pastebin the qml?01:58
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Elleohmm, can't see anything obvious :/02:05
mfulzah found it :)02:08
mfulzhad to give my column an id and set the flickable height to it - just in case you want to know the issue :)02:09
Elleoah, okay02:09
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Elleowill keep that in mind for future reference :)02:09
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andfoolWhich language i should learn in order to build apps?02:10
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Elleoandfool: QML + JS is probably simplest and easiest02:12
Elleoand QML + Python will be a nice option in the future02:13
Elleootherwise QML + C++, but you might find that more difficult02:13
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situHow do you install packages on latest sailfish vm ?10:38
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coderususing SDK Control Center ofc.10:39
situCan't I install direclty on vm through zypper ?10:39
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coderussitu: sure you can, but then you must sync packages in SDK COntrol Center10:43
coderussitu: nbetter  to use SDK CC10:43
situWhy isn't zypper available in latest release of sailfish vm ?10:44
coderusbecause of pkcon10:44
coderuspkcon install zypper10:44
coderusor just use pkcon instead10:45
coderuspkcon dont require root privileges, it privileged by itself10:46
Yanielbetter use pkcon to avoid conflicts10:48
coderusYaniel: what conflicts?10:49
coderuszypper is not rpm, it resolving all conflicts and dependencies too :)10:49
coderusjust pkcon is easier for newibles trying to develop :D10:50
Yanielyeah but pkcon handles simultaneous requests10:50
Yanieland is the same api that the store uses10:50
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coderusthere are different apis for installing packages from repos and resolving conflicts?10:56
coderusyou kidding me?10:56
Yanielsame library or whatever10:57
Yanielafaik it is "use pkcon to stay out of troublee"10:58
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coderusanyway. pkcon in vm is just for unify device-emulator10:59
coderusi see no other reons10:59
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situWhy did the chose pkcon ?11:14
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situthey *11:15
coderuspkcon is easier for end user11:15
coderusand (*i think*) something related to license11:15
coderuslike using curl instead of wget :D11:16
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zuhIt's about using PackageKit from both cli and UI I believe11:21
fluxpkcon is pretty nice. the fact that jolla isn't an apt/dpkg-based system doesn't bother me at all, most of the annoying stuff has been smoothed off :)11:23
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jake9xxcoderus: true and if someonsists they can do pkcon install zypper11:41
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situDebuggin is such a PITA on this SDK, "journalctl" command doesn't always show me the logs of console.log.12:28
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lbtsitu: new SDK fixes that12:29
situWhen was it released ?12:30
lbtmmm ... this week iirc12:31
lbtor last12:31
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* lbt finds time confusing atm :)12:31
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* situ starts updating SDK12:34
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Andy80I still can't make Mer SDK work on OSX :/13:27
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coderusAndy80: sadly :(13:31
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Andy80coderus: I've uninstalled everything (including deletion of .config stuff etc....) and reinstalled from scratch but I still get the same timeout connection problem when I try to compile something13:32
janiworks here.13:32
coderusI'm uploading preview version of Mitakuulu right now. I'm hoping to get many suggestions and bugreports in next hours to make hotfixies before tomorrow's public release13:32
janidoes sdk come with its own virtualbox or does it use one installed ?13:33
janias atleast for me, virtualbox has been really buggy on osx.13:33
Andy80jani: I installed vbox getting it from the official website13:34
Andy80jani: define "here" please :) are you using OSX or Linux?13:34
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jani10.8.4 to be exact13:36
Andy80oh.... maybe the problem is with Mavericks?13:37
Andy80I've 10.9.113:37
janiwhat version of virtualbox you have ?13:37
janias i said, i've had a lot of issues with vbox just not working and crashing on vm start ups .. mines 4.2.1613:38
Andy80jani: I've 4.3.6 (latest available)13:39
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janiyeah, i have older version exactly for that reason: never releases had some regression. there's even some bug reports13:40
Andy80jani: I will try with 4.2.x then13:41
Andy80anyway I still can't understand if it's having a problem connecting to the Mer SDK or to the device...13:41
Andy80because it behaves in a strange way...13:41
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Andy80if I just "build" the source I don't get an error... and to build it, it should connect to Mer SDK, right?13:42
Andy80but if later I ask it to deploy, I get a Mer SDK connection timeout13:42
Andy80I reproduce the error again so we can give it a look together?13:42
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janii can take a look but im not that good with sdk and virtualbox yet ;)13:43
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janijust installed it yesterday.  I would prefer plain-old scratchbox or similar just because of old habbits ;)13:44
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janiOh my, i got 211 karma in together site ;--)13:45
janibut yeah, if you can build and you actually do see the build log, mer build should be up .. you could actually also verify it by firt starting virtual box and checking the state there ..13:46
janiand then, trying to ssh into it ?13:46
Andy80jani: I think there is another problem...13:46
coderusAndy80: do ou have firewall?13:46
Andy80first of all I didn't add the Jolla device to the QtCreator preferences13:46
janijust to rule out connectivity..13:47
Andy80second.... I'm doing right now, but it gets a timeout anyway13:47
Andy80I can ssh into it from terminal13:47
Andy80but from QtCreator I always get a timeout connection error13:47
janiok. something different then for sure.13:47
Andy80I'm trying to increase the timeout seconds but it's not helping13:47
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janibtw, does anyone know, are account plugins same as on Harmattan ?13:49
Andy80ok, now it worked13:50
Andy80I was ble to deploy SSH keys to the device13:50
Andy80it looks like that if the device has the screen off it cannot accept connections13:50
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janiack indeed.13:51
janii noticed the same, if the screen goes black on devel mode, existing ssh connection dies ..13:51
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Andy80same error :(13:53
Andy80basically.... when you execute the deploy I get the error before deploying to the device13:53
Andy80if you want to give it a look
Andy80it's not even trying to connect to the device... it's getting the error when it connects to the Mer SDK to build the RPM13:54
Andy80if I just execute "Build All", then it can connect to Mer SDK without errors13:55
Andy80I don't understand this...13:55
Andy80this is the output for "Build All"
Andy80as you can see, no errors13:56
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janiAndy80: ;)13:59
janifourth entry from the bottom ..13:59
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Andy80jani: I will try it thanks :) I'll be right back soon..14:01
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Elessarhi all, is there any way to operate with mouse buttons by SDK?14:19
* Andy80 back :)14:21
Andy80let's try those workaround...14:21
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coderusElessar: means?14:24
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Elessarcoderus: I'm trying to implement book reader, and it's convience to flip the page by volume buttons14:26
coderusElessar: you can make a tool for press emulation of any keycode14:27
Elessarno-no, how can I understand from the application user pressed the volume button?14:27
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Elessaroh, looks' my fault, there are signals Keys.onVolume*Pressed in QtQuick API14:29
Andy80jani: ok, the rebuild all doesn't give me any error (I've applied those workarounds you told me, but please note that I wasn't getting any error during build phase even before that.... let's try the deploy now)14:30
Elessarbut I have one more question :) is there any way to control the brightness of the screen?14:30
Andy80better now!14:33
Andy80deploy by rpm still doesn't work, but deploy copying binary works :)14:33
Andy80for now is more than enough for me14:33
Andy80at least I can test on the device14:33
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coderusAndy80: oh, just deploying to device was trouble? or you just wanted to have option to deploy via QtCreator? just in case you want to deploy rpm you can use xterminal and scp package to device :D14:41
Andy80coderus: I was just using the "default" deploy option that is "build rpm, deploy rpm, install rpm and run the app"14:42
Andy80coderus: but it looks like it's not working at the moment. Anyway, I just need to deploy and test the binary for now. It's faster and easier.14:43
Andy80coderus: changing subject... you're the one that is porting the whatsapp client to Jolla?14:45
coderusAndy80: yup14:45
Andy80coderus: cool :) are there any versions to test avalable? Also, I wasn't able to find the source code anywhere. Haven't you released it or planning to relase?14:46
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coderusi'll upload preview version soon, and public release will be tomorrow14:47
Andy80cool :)14:47
Andy80WhatsApp and poor battery were my two main "lockers" to make the switch. Battery is much better without toh daemon and if WA client is almost here... I will be able to switch :)14:48
coderusAndy80: no sources, sorry. i'll publish to opensource after implementing last WA feature. i'm afraid of competitors :D14:49
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coderusAndy80: but it based on Fremantle Yappari source code, it's opensource. i just ported it to Qt5 and added some features to engine, made it server-daemon to work in background, and made fancy Silica UI :)14:50
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Andy80coderus: in opensource usually there are contributors, not competitors :D14:50
Andy80anyway it's ok ;)14:50
tbrI'd rather see additional protocols added to telepathy than otherwise14:50
Andy80I'm now going to study a bit of Silica UI. I don't even know how to write/implement basic stuff14:50
tbrthat way they integrate seemlessly with the whole OS14:50
coderusAndy80: i can push UI to opensource contributions, not engine :)14:51
tbrand with contacts14:51
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coderustbr: just need to compile libpurple to nemo and voila!14:51
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coderushaze have many protocols14:51
coderusalso whatsapp ported to libpurple :)14:51
tbrcoderus: so this whatsapp thing is for haze?14:51
Elessarcoderus: can you help me with the brightness question?14:51
coderusAndy80: start with Hello world.14:51
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tbr(I know very well what telepathy-haze is)14:52
coderusElessar: i have no Jolla device, sorry :(14:52
coderusonly Nokia N9 with port14:52
coderustbr: no, i'm just letting you know14:52
Elessarcoderus: I also don't have yet, but it will be sad to get it withot the reader ready(14:52
tbrcoderus: well, that's useless then14:53
coderusElessar: i think there should be api for thar14:53
coderusfor that*14:53
coderustbr: why? just compile libpurple14:53
tbrcoderus: you're contradicting yourself now...14:54
tbrcoderus: first you say that this whatsapp thing is not possible with haze now you tell me to use libpurple, which is haze14:54
Elessarcoderus: unfortunately I don't see anything like this in official SDK or Qt API14:56
Elessarany way, is there something like avahi/dnssd in Jolla?14:56
Elessarfor multicasting dns requests14:56
Elessarhaven't seen anything like this in SDK/Emulator14:57
coderustbr: libpurple is NOT haze :D15:02
coderustbr: libpurple is telepathy library for pidgin protocol plugins15:03
coderustbr: and haze is pidgin plugin, so its need to heve libpurple on board to use haze15:03
coderustbr: and there is whatsapp protocol plugin for pidgin, so we can use it with libpurple only15:04
tbrso it is possible15:04
Andy80I've created my Hello World from the SDK wizard... but I'm really missing the basic infos.... for example I don't understand where I can put a PageHeader... or if I need to insert a SilicaListView inside a Column or not....15:04
Andy80where can I find a tutorial?15:04
coderustbr: sure, just compile libpurple for Nemo and you can use many many useful plugins in telepathy15:04
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tbrwell, one more thing for the community repository then15:04
coderusAndy80: do you developed QML in past?15:05
tbrwill try to package things up or encourage other people to package those up15:05
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Andy80coderus: long time ago and just 1 app :P I can say that I don't know much about QML (to be honest)15:05
coderusAndy80: well, then just press F1 twice and read Silica reference. There are some examples inside each article.15:06
Andy80coderus: I remember there are a couple of (in progress) books about Qt5 and QML, but I don't remember their names... one was on QML in general and the other one about Jolla development. Does anyone of you remember their names?15:07
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coderusAndy80: first you just need to understand elements mechanics, how it works.15:07
coderusAndy80: sorry, no books. QML is too simple for me after using heavy languages, so i didnt read any book about QML, reference articles was enough for me all this time15:08
coderusAndy80: just simulate UI you want to have and play with QML elements15:09
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Andy80what you mean with "simulate" ?15:09
Andy80I can manually draw it maybe...15:10
coderusmeans design, draw in mind/sheet15:10
Andy80yeah.. I can do it15:10
coderusMain item is Page, its clean sheet for PageStack.15:10
Andy80but that doesn't mean I know which UI components to use after that :)15:10
coderusfor Silica ui main interactive item is SilicaFlickable. In most cases you must put all elements inside SIlicaFlickable, including PageHEader15:11
Andy80coderus: can I put a ListView inside a SilicaFlickable for example? In that case the PageHeader goes inside SilicaFlickable or inside the ListView?15:12
coderusAndy80: just open Reference by F1, go to Silica Reference Documentation and read about EACH element. THere are not too many, and you must know all of them to use in proper way15:12
Andy80ok, I will do it15:12
coderusAndy80: sure you can put everything inside everything.15:12
coderusAndy80: but you must find a best15:14
coderusQMl is like Lego(tm). You can do everything, but in some cases peoples making ugly things, in some good :)15:15
janiAndy80: was afk, did you get it working ?15:24
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Andy80jani: yes and no.... rpm deploy doesn't work, but at least binary deployment does. Now the most difficoult part: learn about SilicaUI and QML :)15:26
janiAndy80: k, then we are in shame shape =)15:26
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janiinteresting, backups look like they are done with git :D15:37
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janiwhere does sdk store the build tools like qmake ? they are not in the path by default ..16:42
Elleojani: they're inside a virtual machine image16:42
janiyeah, where are the inside the vm ? ;)16:43
janiare are they in inside the vm ..16:43
janiduh, typos ..16:43
ElleoI think they're inside a chroot somewhere iirc; although you don't need to actually use them manually just to do stuff from the command line16:43
janineed != want ;)16:43
Elleois you use the mb2 tool it'll do all the chrooting and stuff for you16:43
Elleoe.g. "mb2 qmake" "mb2 make" "mb2 build" etc.16:44
Elleohmm, not sure, I had thought it was in the host_targets but it seems I was wrong16:46
janithanks. that should be enough for now.16:46
Elleomb2 makes life much easier though :)16:47
janilooks about right.16:53
janiand yey, got meegopas to build!16:53
Elleonice :)16:54
janismall macro bug in spec file calling qmake.16:54
coderusmb2 -t SailfishOS-arv7hl build rpm/meegopas.spec17:01
Wntwow, the ability to run projects on the phone with one click from the IDE is very nice!17:07
Andy80coderus: I've found the book about QML I was talking about before :)17:09
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coderus Andy80 good :)17:16
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Andy80I remember that someone said that by default the volume of Android apps is a bit low and that there is an app to download to increase it... which is this app name?17:23
tuukkahhey jani, meegopas is your app?17:27
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janituukkah: nope, but i need something like that and spotted tmo thread that someone made poc port of it to sailfish .. and now im checking what i should fix still to make it work for my use.17:28
* tuukkah is on negative karma because of an idea that seems to be controversial %-)17:28
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tuukkahjani, important work. where's the source btw?17:30
Pnuutuukkah: pulley menu?17:30
tuukkahPnuu, yeah :-)17:30
Pnuunoticed that it has -4 :-D17:30
janituukkah:  my fork:
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tuukkahjani, thanks17:33
hardcodesWhat is meant by network time? The phone network operator? In Germany they tend to not send the time!17:34
tuukkahhey hardcodes, thanks for your book!17:34
hardcodesOh, wrong channel :-D17:34
hardcodestuukkah: your welcome!17:35
janituukkah: builds and installs fine, definitely needs some work on ui.17:37
tbrtuukkah: which one?17:37
tbrcontroversial indeed17:39
tbrnerd rage backlash17:39
Pnuuoh, it's already at -7 :-P17:42
* tbr doesn't get any karma as he only votes and posts comments...17:44
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janikarma whore with 271 ;)17:45
PnuuI'm at 6917:46
Pnuunice karma, that ;-)17:46
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WntAre there any QML + C++ example projects or tutoials for Sailfish?17:49
WntI'd like to create an application that fetches some JSON data with HTTP requests based on user input and display the result JSON formatted with QML17:50
Wntso I guess I have to do the HTTP request with QtNetwork in C++ and have an interface available for my QML17:51
janiWnt: *g* sounds like exactly what my plan is ;)17:52
Jonnijani: feel free to make push request for meegopas, I've been a bit busy to improve it lately.17:52
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coderusWnt: simple how-to is inside Qt Assistant. Just press F1.17:54
tortoisedoc_hyvää joulua sailors!17:55
coderusWnt: for parsing json you can use QtJsonDocument17:55
janiJonni: already sent one - only a small one but without that, i couldnt get it building.17:55
tortoisedoc_ it seems gdb does not crash on me anymore17:55
tortoisedoc_but the only thing it can do atm is break on breakpoints :|17:55
coderusWnt: or if simple short json reply you can parse it directly in QML using JSON.parse17:55
tortoisedoc_(btw I also get debug console out)17:55
tortoisedoc_anyone has a hint on how to test gdb ?17:55
Wntcoderus: Do you know if QtJsonDocument is already available for harbour applications?17:56
coderusWnt: *QJsonDocument17:56
coderusWnt: sure, its quite simple library17:56
Wntcoderus: it's not listed in Or is it part of some library listed there?17:57
Wntok, seems to be part of QT Core17:57
coderusWnt: its part of qtbase, i think17:58
janiJonni: plans on pushing to harbour ?17:58
Jonnijani: ah, your building with qtcreator... I was building from commandline, merged the fix.17:58
Jonnijani: well there is still one path which fails the current QA script, I'm looking into if I can bypass that or have the path whitelisted.17:59
Jonnijani: so maybe at some point.17:59
janiis there any way to run those qa scripts without actually pushing to store  - or can i just try it on my own?18:01
Elleoyeah, access to the qa scripts to verify stuff would be nice18:02
Elleohaving it built into qtcreator would also be pretty awesome18:02
coderustuukkah: added karma, just because having negative karma is bad :)18:02
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PnuuElleo: sounds like a together item18:03
ElleoPnuu: good point, will add it now18:03
coderustuukkah: but my Mitakuuluu using long lists and pulley menus, and i solved that situation for myself by having active PageHeader and different pressDelays for flickable and listview18:03
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Wntcoderus: I cannot find the simple howto you mentioned?18:05
coderushey, /sbin/ifconfig wlan0 up: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill, wtf?18:05
Wntwhere is it in Qt Creator's help?18:05
ElleoPnuu: :)18:06
Stskeepscoderus: connman controls rfkill18:06
coderusWnt: F118:06
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coderusStskeeps: any way i can enable/disable wlan0 in terminal without rfkill block?18:07
ElessarI have to repeat my questions: is there any way to control screen's brightness? and is there any analogue for avahi/dnssd on Sailfish?18:07
Wntcoderus: yes, that opens a "Qt Creator Manual" with lots of API documentation and some content like "Getting Started"18:07
coderuswlan down is okay, but i can up interface only via gui settings :(18:07
Wntbut cannot find a QML + C++ sample from there18:07
Stskeepscoderus: connman-test(s) package and enable wifi or something like that18:07
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PnuuElleo: added harbour tag :-)18:08
janiWnt: signal example atleast combines c++ and qml/js ..18:09
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ElleoPnuu: thanks :)18:10
Wntjani: oh, thank you! And that signals example is available from Welcome -> Tutorials18:10
smokexin c++, basically anthing you want ot be accessible by the qml should be made a property18:11
coderusWnt: article called: "Interacting with QML Objects from C++"18:12
Wntcoderus: Thank you, found that using the index in Help18:13
coderusWnt: good, here everything about interacting in both ways18:14
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coderusStskeeps: i found connamn properties in dbus, thats enough :)18:18
Andy80if in a source code I've this "import Sailfish.Silica.theme 1.0", QtCreator underline it as not found (I'm just playing with the "hello world" app created by SDK wizard....)18:20
Andy80is it a known issue?18:21
coderusAndy80: what you trying to do? There are no theme item in SIlica. There is global Theme element, you dont need to import it. It available in Sailfish.Silica 1.018:23
Andy80coderus: then the code created by the SDK wizard must be fixed. That import is present when you create a new app using the QtCreator Sailfish App wizard18:24
coderusmy old QtCreator with old SDK not creating theme import in default Silica app18:26
suyAndy80: I've just installed the sdk (brand new). In which qml source file you have the red underline?18:27
Andy80suy: in FirstPage.qml and SecondPage.qml, but probably I created this app with the very first version of the SDK18:27
suyI have some red underlined items in CoverPage.qml. But I've seen that even with plain creator and plain qt quick. I think the analyzer is not that smart.18:27
* Andy80 need to go for dinner, see you later18:28
suyThat's what I hate about templates provided by Creator and stuff. You get a bunch of code that is not really Hello World. Is a bit more, and then things don't work perfectly, and you don't know why...18:29
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coderusMitakuuluu for Sailfish - preview build:
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coderusPlease send your bugreports to: coderusinbox@gmail.com18:30
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janicoderus: git url ? =)18:40
coderusjani: no sources ;)18:41
Yanieltotally trusted18:41
coderusjani: discussed about sources a hour ago18:42
coderusin short: sources will be published after last WA feature will be implementes. i'm afraid of competitors :)18:43
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janihah ok, i was just curious.18:43
coderusjani: is based on Fremantle Yappari sources, its opensource, you can check its surces if need :)18:44
coderusin case you dont trust closed source im chat client you can google my person :)18:44
janicoderus: nah, i was just interested on checking the codebase as im in spree of trying to learn as much as possible.18:46
janiso not about trusting.18:46
coderushere sources of Yappari18:47
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suycoderus: it's a whatsapp application, then? awesome. I guess it's all C++?18:55
coderussuy: its WhatsApp client, right. Qt5/Silica18:57
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raa70coderus: installed mitakuuluu on jolla, trying to start gives all white screen =(19:04
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coderusraa70: just uploaded buid №2 - fixing loading bug :D19:08
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raa70longest.... pulley menu.... ever....19:21
valdur55what is the max lenght for pulley menu?19:22
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raa70coderus: can19:28
raa70t see names19:28
raa70only numbers show up19:28
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coderusraa70: hold on contact and choose Refresh. It should retrieve nichname from server19:35
coderusraa70: or you have problems with contact synchronization?19:35
coderusvaldur55: i think screen height is max :)19:35
coderusraa70: i just tried to add everything in pulley, in most usable order :D19:36
raa70guy I'm messaging with got name from somwhere, but that refresh thing doesnt work on others19:39
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coderusraa70: emm, did you opened "Sync phonebook" from pull down menu to retrieve contacts?19:44
coderusraa70: and contacts appeared with numbers instead of names?19:44
coderusraa70: nad in Sync phonebook page you see contacts names?19:46
coderusraa70: thanks fot the info, i will fix that :)19:47
raa70actually the guy whose name is working has same number as mobile phone and home numbers, i think other numbers are mobile19:47
raa70another guy answered to message, now he got name but i think it's the nick he has set in whatsapp19:48
raa70aaaand power is out, so i don't know how long the battery on this pos will last19:49
raa70thank god for mobile connections19:50
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ShadowJKI used to have days of internet20:05
ShadowJKI took part in building my ISP :) And our main switch cabinet had access to generator backed up circuit at the local health centre  :D20:06
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raa70coderus: default nickname: Persecute user, default status: I'm using persecute! =)20:06
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ShadowJKunfortunately some idiots working on our switches short circuited the cabinet with a spanner, and also killed life support systems.20:07
ShadowJKwe got kicked off the generator circuit :(20:07
ShadowJKso now we've only got 60min backup20:07
raa70coderus: also i think the20:08
raa70never get used to this laptop keyboard20:08
raa70coderus: also i think the settings and account should have left pull for save and right pull for discard20:09
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coderusraa70: settings saves if you pressing return key20:18
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pcfewhen I create a backup in the UI with Preferences / Backup, where is the file saved on the filesystem?20:44
Pnuupcfe: /home/nemo/.vault I believe20:44
pcfePnuu: thx20:46
pcfersyn running, about to test wipe20:46
ibinspcfe: someone on #jollamobile suggested tarring .vault and transfering it then to the PC20:47
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pcfeibins: yeah, rsync does the same20:48
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ibinspcfe: hm: what about the files with group "priviledged" there on the device?20:52
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pcfenot sure I understand what you mean. Files which the user nemo has no read permissions to?20:55
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janiibins: or maybe setup a remote git repo to .vault and just do git push  ? as it seems that .vault is actually a git repo.21:12
ibinspcfe: with rsync you change the group of the files. I do not know what happens, if you return the rsynced files that now belong to a different group21:14
ibinsjani: this is an interesting idea :-)21:14
pcfeoh I'm not fussed about that, the only thing I really want backed up are 2 or 3 SMSes that I received in the first hours of playing, those will be fine and belong to nemo21:15
ibinsjani: I just don't think that git is such a perfect tool to backup on a remote device, when files like .avi or .jpg are involved :-)21:15
janinot efficient but would be very easy to backup and restore even in case of total wipe.21:18
pcfeonce I take the phone into real use, I for one, will be happy if I can git push to my local server to backup my phone ;-)21:20
Morpog_PCcoderus, SMS from whatsapp comes but doesn't get detected. How to enter the Code without "-" allowed in that textfield? I tried without, but that failed21:23
olofkI'm giving up trying to run my simple QML app with QT creator. Any of you CLI junkies who have a few scripts for building and pushing RPMs and running it on the emulator or real device?21:24
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olofkI thought I read earlier about some project on github that got some nice scripts, but it's been pushed out of my scrollback buffer21:25
janiolofk: what sort of problems you are facing?21:33
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janiand woah, DatePickerDialog doesnt have week day indicators =(21:34
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coderusMorpog_PC: SMS HAndler is not implemented for Jolla21:37
coderusMorpog_PC: you need to enter 6-digit code21:37
coderusMorpog_PC: failed what?21:38
Morpog_PCok, i tried that without dash, but it failed21:38
Morpog_PCto register21:38
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Morpog_PCI get a code by SMS that looks like that:21:38
coderusolofk: login to build machine and compile with mb2 -t SailfishOS-armv7hl build21:38
coderusMorpog_PC: failed what? what error message?21:39
Morpog_PCAs I couldn't enter code that way, I entered it like that: 12345621:39
Morpog_PCSorry, don't remember exactly, will do a screenshot next time. Need to wait 3 hours till I can try again21:39
coderussend me log from /home/nemo/.whatsapp/whatsapp.log21:40
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Morpog_PCsend in MSG21:42
Morpog_PCcoderus, aaand now sent to email :D21:44
coderusMorpog_PC: got it, thanks. nothing suspicious21:45
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Morpog_PCcoderus, so I should enter the code without the "-"? Just as I tried before?21:46
Morpog_PCCode in SMS looks like that: 123-45621:46
coderusMorpog_PC: yes21:49
Morpog_PCOk, will try again laters21:49
coderusMitakuuluu test beta3 added:
Morpog_PCwill let you know if it works21:49
coderusfixed syncing phonebook21:50
Morpog_PCoh, great21:50
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Morpog_PCbut that was link to old version :)21:51
olofkjani: Instead of using a c++ entry point, I want to launch my QML-only app with sailfish-qml from libsailfishapp-launcher. This was way trickier than I expected to do in QT creator. Had some success by setting TEMPLATE=aux in the .pro file, but that also removes the option to launch through the emulator21:52
coderusMorpog_PC: that link to folder >.<21:53
Morpog_PCyeah, now ut works strange21:53
Morpog_PCmaybe cache of my firefox didn't update21:53
* coderus going to sleep21:55
Morpog_PCthx and cya21:55
janiok, not that far yet  =)21:55
olofkcoderus: about mb2, will that build the RPM, deploy it and run it on the device/emulator?21:57
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Morpog_PCSfiet_Konstantin, still crashes from desktop link23:34
Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_PC: geez23:34
Sfiet_Konstantincan you give me the bt coming from journalctl ?23:34
Morpog_PCtell me how :D23:35
Morpog_PCand where23:35
Sfiet_Konstantindevel-su <pw>23:36
Sfiet_Konstantinjournactl -fa23:36
Sfiet_Konstantinand then launch from desktop file23:36
Morpog_PCbash: journactl: command not found23:36
Morpog_PCI shouldn't copy/paste :D23:37
Sfiet_Konstantingot it23:38
Sfiet_KonstantinI tried the package built from OBS23:38
Sfiet_Konstantinthere is an issue with booster23:38
Morpog_PCjust for sure :)23:38
Morpog_PCeek copied too much23:39
Sfiet_Konstantinooster: Loading invoked application failed: '/usr/bin/harbour-friends: Kann das Programm nicht dynamisch Laden'23:41
Sfiet_Konstantinthis is enough to tell me that we got the same issue23:41
Sfiet_Konstantinfixed the spec file23:42
Sfiet_Konstantinnow it should work23:42
Morpog_PCyeah, I see mer-boss ;)23:42
Sfiet_Konstantinobs is so <323:42
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Sfiet_Konstantinfast, and building oss apps so easily23:42
Sfiet_Konstantini like it23:42
Sfiet_Konstantinah, I need to have the donation link set up23:42
Sfiet_Konstantinread the "what works" section on TMO ?23:43
Sfiet_Konstantin(just to be sure :))23:43
Morpog_PCnothing works, was last I read :)23:43
Morpog_PCah u edited23:43
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Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_PC: test now ?23:45
Morpog_PCworks o/23:46
Sfiet_KonstantinI devoted some time to the ui23:48
Sfiet_Konstantinwanted to mimic the side menu from FB apps using the attached page23:48
Morpog_PCwouldn't it then the other way around?23:48
Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_PC: think about this flow23:49
Morpog_PCswipe to right to get content23:49
Sfiet_Konstantinyou go to friensd view23:49
Sfiet_Konstantinthen to friend album23:49
Sfiet_Konstantinand want to go back*23:49
Sfiet_Konstantinif you pull from left to right to get the menu it conflixts with going back gesture23:49
Sfiet_KonstantinI thought about putting the menu to the right23:49
Sfiet_Konstantinbut no ...23:49
Sfiet_KonstantinI couldn't :(23:49
Morpog_PCit works good23:50
Morpog_PCjust gets needing used to23:50
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Sfiet_KonstantinI planned more features23:51
Sfiet_Konstantinbut first, let's display photos23:51
Sfiet_Konstantin(I mean pictures in posts)23:52
Sfiet_Konstantinor better ... let's play with shaders :D23:52
Morpog_PCyeah, that personal banner could have it's boundaries softened23:53
Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_PC: I think that I won't abuse with back gradient23:55
Sfiet_Konstantinwill use a transparent graident23:55
Morpog_PCsounds good23:55
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