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| w00t | lbt: not entirely sure | 00:06 |
| w00t | opengl isn't something i know well | 00:06 |
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| lbt | OK, I actually meant : QOpenGLShader::Geometry too | 00:07 |
| lbt | it's failing to compile but not telling me I shouldn't be compiling it | 00:08 |
| lbt | not sure if Qt checks the GL capabilities | 00:08 |
| lbt | erm, the shader is failing to compile at run time | 00:09 |
| lbt | QOpenGLShader::compile(Geometry): failed | 00:09 |
| lbt | w00t: do you know if lipstick or Silica plays with the glcontext? | 00:10 |
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| MSameer | artemma: do you mind if i submit a competitive flash light app ? ;) | 00:59 |
| artemma | MSameer: I don't think it would change anything :) | 00:59 |
| artemma | I mean whether I mind it or not | 00:59 |
| PeterPark | artemma & MSameer : is source code available? | 01:00 |
| artemma | well, the more good apps the better. Hopefully mine at least goes through harbour first. QA times seem to be not very predicatable | 01:00 |
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| artemma | PeterPark: mine is closed, but the idea of how I do it is open (and contributed by many including lots of help by MSameer ) | 01:01 |
| artemma | MSameer: have you found a way for using the proper torch api somehow? | 01:03 |
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| PeterPark | artemma: I am struggling to find further infos about jolla/sailfish: There is the QT Stuff, but I came from n900 and there was a central place getting all infos (for example I am searching for a method to get all mp3 files, or all vid, etc..) . Where did you guys get your info? | 01:06 |
| artemma | PeterPark: mostly in this channel and mailing list | 01:06 |
| artemma | that is for me at least | 01:06 |
| PeterPark | artemma: ahh than I am not soo wrong ;) | 01:07 |
| Elleo | PeterPark: DocumentGalleryModel is probably what you need for that | 01:07 |
| Elleo | PeterPark: http://doc-snapshot.qt-project.org/qt-mobility/qml-documentgallerymodel.html | 01:08 |
| PeterPark | Elleo: Thanks! | 01:08 |
| Elleo | iirc one of the sailfish examples in the SDK uses it for displaying images if you want an example of usage | 01:09 |
| PeterPark | Elleo: yes I am just looking into it.. yuite impressive: the code is really small | 01:12 |
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| Elleo | PeterPark: one thing to be aware of is that tracker only indexes files in ~/Videos ~/Pictures ~/Music and on the sd card, so it'll only find files in those locations | 01:18 |
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| PeterPark | Elleo: yes, unfortunately he finds also my coverart and the media player has problems with mp3s without any id3 tags.. he just ignores them :) | 01:22 |
| PeterPark | I try to build small tools to ease my pain.. | 01:23 |
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| MSameer | artemma: i will not submit it if you refuse because I have an advantage over you | 01:30 |
| artemma | MSameer: what sort of an advantage> | 01:31 |
| artemma | ? | 01:31 |
| MSameer | artemma: PeterPark but I did not write any code yet but I do only GPL/LGPL stuff | 01:31 |
| MSameer | artemma: I work for jolla so I know when features make it before others :P | 01:31 |
| artemma | so torch api is supported in the next firmware build? :) | 01:32 |
| MSameer | there is a way which will be released soon via gstreamer directly | 01:32 |
| MSameer | gstreamer layer will support it but not qtmultimedia | 01:32 |
| MSameer | and I cannot tell if it's in the next update or not | 01:32 |
| artemma | ah | 01:32 |
| MSameer | I can only tell you when the update is out | 01:32 |
| artemma | oh well, if your app is better, then it's better. Better choice for the user | 01:32 |
| MSameer | so I can do the app by using gstreamer directly | 01:33 |
| artemma | I knew what I was risking when decided to spend time fighting with the torch stuff | 01:33 |
| artemma | well, if you feel like giving me some sort of a encouragement, I think it's okay if you submit so that my app is first for a week or so | 01:34 |
| MSameer | i added the property for your use case but qtmultimedia did not catch up | 01:34 |
| artemma | but I don't think you should be forbidden forever | 01:34 |
| MSameer | I hate to step on people's feet just because I can | 01:35 |
| artemma | and a hint on how exactly you do it, would also be handy - I could try the same :) | 01:35 |
| MSameer | artemma: I will tell you when I verify that it's available in the upcoming update but you have to stick to this channel :P | 01:35 |
| MSameer | but note that gstreamer is not a supported store API so you will have to work around that | 01:36 |
| artemma | hmm, how will your app be able to use it then? | 01:36 |
| MSameer | bundle its own copy maybe | 01:37 |
| artemma | it still needs to plug into some allowed lower level interface, doesn't it? | 01:37 |
| MSameer | or see if i can get get away with using dlopen | 01:37 |
| artemma | I am not sure about the stepping on feet analogy. You know, if I step away from allowed competitions tracks using lots of energy and the other guys starts when a new track is open in the same space.. :) | 01:38 |
| M4rtinK | well, shouldn't the Qt torch API just be fixed ? :) | 01:38 |
| M4rtinK | so that apps don't have to ship hacks for each platform | 01:39 |
| artemma | M4rtinK: *right now* I don't mind broken API as it gives me a head start due to a working (and improvable further) hack. But other developers might not agree :) | 01:40 |
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| artemma | and in any case I think it's more important to fix camera bug with whole device crashing when two apps try to use camera simultaneously. Might hit Torch API cases as well | 01:41 |
| M4rtinK | oh, that was pretty broken even back on Harmattan | 01:43 |
| M4rtinK | well, not _that_ broken :) | 01:43 |
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| artemma | MSameer: I thought about it again. I think people should not be prevented from releasing competitive apps. But if you feel like you are using knowledge not publicly available to others it can be solved, by sharing when you know it. Ot if impossible/difficult/not allowed, then you can give a headstart to others | 01:56 |
| artemma | MSameer: Say, if today you discover that gstreamer way will be possible, but it will became public info in two weeks, then two weeks long head start should be fare enough. Okay, maybe + maybe one week more if you want to be absolutely sure you are not overusing your position | 01:58 |
| MSameer | M4rtinK: well, Qt should be fixed but I am not responsible for Qt | 02:02 |
| MSameer | artemma: watch the updates and check the properties on droidcamsrc | 02:02 |
| MSameer | artemma: if you find a video-torch property then that is what you need | 02:03 |
| artemma | MSameer: I worked with gstreamer a little in the past, so I guess a way would be to create a simple pipeline and start-stop it. A'la this thing from harmattan times, but probably with the different source https://developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/How_to_turn_your_camera_flash_into_a_torch_on_Harmattan_using_GStreamer | 02:03 |
| artemma | well, that's anyway better than my hack | 02:04 |
| artemma | thanks for letting me know. Hopefully, meanwhile there will be somebody who will show how to bundle libraries with the app | 02:05 |
| MSameer | artemma: sailfish uses droidcamsrc | 02:05 |
| MSameer | but viewfinder-mode should be replaced with mode | 02:05 |
| artemma | MSameer thanks | 02:06 |
| MSameer | artemma: this should be enough from the command line: gst-launch-0.10 droidcamsrc mode=mode-video video-torch=true name=d d.vfsrc ! droideglsink | 02:06 |
| artemma | trying it already just in case it's already possible :) | 02:07 |
| MSameer | if it brings up torch then you should be fine | 02:07 |
| MSameer | it's not possible yet | 02:07 |
| MSameer | artemma: I already share because I will create a GPL app :p | 02:08 |
| MSameer | so if someone wants to know, he will find out how | 02:08 |
| artemma | Open source has it's good sides indeed :) | 02:08 |
| MSameer | i am not bashing you because your code is closed. this is completely up to you | 02:09 |
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| MSameer | I don't like it but I still respect your work | 02:09 |
| artemma | I do my part of sharing back to the community the other way. Like in this channel. And in a couple of open projects too: HelloWorld Pro and Wikipedia | 02:10 |
| artemma | following Jolla's approach actually (that was not the point, just happens to be same point of view I guess): common stuff to be shared, special differentiator - closed | 02:10 |
| MSameer | as I said, you do what you like. that's not the point | 02:11 |
| MSameer | jolla welcomes all developers and community contributions | 02:11 |
| artemma | yep, just sharing point of view | 02:11 |
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| yfgyugs87 | WARNING WARNING WARNING, WARNING | 02:36 |
| yfgyugs87 | WARNING WARNING WARNING, WARNING WARNING | 02:36 |
| yfgyugs87 | YOU MAY BE WATCHED | 02:36 |
| yfgyugs87 | YOU MAY BE WATCHED | 02:36 |
| yfgyugs87 | YOU MAY BE WATCHED | 02:36 |
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| Elleo | thp: sent you a merge request for mer-python3 to fix the multiprocessing module which gets broken by OBS's build configuration; just let me know if anything is unclear or if you want it handled differently :) | 05:01 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | baaah | 07:10 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc_: ? :D ? morning ! | 07:10 |
| tortoisedoc_ | coderus: thanks good morning to you too | 07:11 |
| tortoisedoc_ | i did not know cygwin replaced cwd of exes with /usr/bin by default :/ | 07:12 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | will have to go for mingw then it seems :< | 07:22 |
| Morpog_Jolla | coderus why does mitikuulaa use MyDocs folder? Would be better to have those folders in zracked folders like Pictures / Documents / Videos | 07:24 |
| Morpog_Jolla | tracked | 07:24 |
| slate | does it? or is it the android-version? | 07:24 |
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| Morpog_Jolla | its definately mitikuulaa | 07:32 |
| Morpog_Jolla | copied from there a received video to Video folder | 07:34 |
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| Nicd- | Morpog_Jolla: mitakuuluu :D | 07:39 |
| Nicd- | I love the misspellings of the app name | 07:39 |
| Nicd- | mittakuluu, mitakuulu, mitikuulaa | 07:39 |
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| Morpog_Jolla | it's hard for non finnish | 07:55 |
| zutto | mitikuulaa is quite well misspelled :P | 07:56 |
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| pp_ | more interesting, most of them are valid finnish (but mean something very different) | 07:59 |
| Morpog_Jolla | :D | 07:59 |
| pp_ | "what's up" "the measure is wearing out" "what did you hear" "miti is shot putting" | 08:01 |
| Nicd- | never heard someone call the act of shot putting "kuulaa" | 08:03 |
| pp_ | yea, you wouldn't actually say it like that | 08:04 |
| pp_ | probably more exercising with a kettle bell | 08:05 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | oh boy | 08:34 |
| tortoisedoc_ | mingw is slow as a turtle compared to cygwin | 08:34 |
| tortoisedoc_ | -_- | 08:34 |
| * tortoisedoc_ gets another cup of coffee | 08:34 | |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu update to v0.1-6 released. | 08:40 |
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| slate | awesome, updating | 08:42 |
| coderus | Morpog_Jolla: my bad. | 08:42 |
| coderus | Morpog_Jolla: i'll remove MyDocs in next update. | 08:43 |
| Nicd- | 0.1-6 already? oooh | 08:44 |
| coderus | btw, is it suitable to download media to Pictures / Videos / Music without WHatsApp subfolder? | 08:44 |
| coderus | Nicd-: just small bugfixies and ui improvement, check closed issues. | 08:44 |
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| Morpog_Jolla | great update coderus | 08:46 |
| slate | dc-remorse o/ | 08:46 |
| Morpog_Jolla | coderus, i would prefer subfolders in them, as filenames are pretty long and weird | 08:47 |
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| Morpog_Jolla | up to you of course :) | 08:48 |
| coderus | so, /home/nemo/Pictures/WhatsApp/picture12345.png will be cached by default? | 08:48 |
| Nicd- | coderus: nice update | 08:48 |
| crysaz | coderus: are you going to publish it also on harbour? | 08:49 |
| Morpog_Jolla | coderus, i think so, let me try quick | 08:50 |
| coderus | crysaz: sure, as soon it will be stable enough | 08:50 |
| coderus | Morpog_Jolla: yes, i asked because you can try :) | 08:50 |
| Morpog_Jolla | coderus works | 08:56 |
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| coderus | Morpog_Jolla: okay :) | 08:57 |
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| Morpog_Jolla | oh btw coderus, do we really need seconds on timestamp? | 09:11 |
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| thp | Elleo: looks good, merged - thx :) | 09:15 |
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| wellu | hello there! | 09:22 |
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| coderus | Morpog_Jolla: there are a lot of free space in header, so, why not? :D | 09:33 |
| Morpog_Jolla | coderus in header of course, but not in chatview | 09:35 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | Why is Sailfish.Media not allowed in Harbour? | 09:37 |
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| fk_lx | MFaro-Tusino: because it doesn't pass the requirements? | 09:38 |
| fk_lx | ;-) | 09:38 |
| MFaro-Tusino | fx_lx: I know that | 09:38 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Mean why does it not pass? | 09:38 |
| fk_lx | there is always a reason given by Harbour QA | 09:38 |
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| coderus | Morpog_Jolla: well, i can add option to settings. i like seconds :) | 09:54 |
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| coderus | MFaro-Tusino: keep asking about Sailfish.Media here. I think it can be accepted since core apps using it :) | 09:56 |
| MFaro-Tusino | coderus: I thought that too | 09:57 |
| MFaro-Tusino | just me, or is the ssh pass reset every reboot? | 09:58 |
| coderus | MFaro-Tusino: its for security reasons :) | 09:58 |
| MFaro-Tusino | its a p.i.t.a | 09:58 |
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| coderus | just install your key and login with key password/without login | 09:58 |
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| coderus | password ssh login is pita ;) | 09:59 |
| coderus | use keys | 09:59 |
| wellu | hmm.. spec and yaml hell here... Tried to add new .js file to my project but it does not get copied to device. | 09:59 |
| Morpog_Jolla | coderus on jolla decice ssh pasdword persists | 10:01 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Morpog_Jolla: Not for me it doesn't | 10:02 |
| tortoisedoc_ | anyone got imap working with self-signed cert? | 10:03 |
| tortoisedoc_ | for me copying of cert does not work yet :/ | 10:03 |
| Jonni | you can always upload your public keys on device, or just set passwd to root | 10:03 |
| Morpog_Jolla | MFaro-Tusino strange | 10:04 |
| Morpog_Jolla | where did you set it? | 10:05 |
| coderus | wellu: qt project? | 10:05 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | morpog_jolla: passwd nemo | 10:06 |
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| Morpog_Jolla | wrong place :) | 10:06 |
| Morpog_Jolla | settings --» developer mode | 10:06 |
| MFaro-Tusino | well seeing as Settings > Dev Mode reset on reboot, figured i needed to do passwd | 10:07 |
| MFaro-Tusino | see ^ | 10:07 |
| MFaro-Tusino | By any chance have you not fiddled around to get GPLay store to work? | 10:07 |
| Morpog_Jolla | try a device reset | 10:08 |
| Morpog_Jolla | no I haven't | 10:08 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Thats probably it | 10:08 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I have | 10:08 |
| Morpog_Jolla | android apps are not worth risking my system :) | 10:08 |
| wellu | coderus: Just trying out some Sailfish coding.. Added new JS file to my project by hand, listing it in the .pro file OTHER_FILES too. | 10:09 |
| Morpog_Jolla | i can always sideload needed apps | 10:09 |
| wellu | coderus: apparently what I need to do is to add custom INSTALLS stanza to my .pro file, right? | 10:09 |
| coderus | wellu: added it to INSTALLS? | 10:09 |
| wellu | coderus: :) Not yet... I'm at it. | 10:10 |
| coderus | wellu: :D | 10:11 |
| MFaro-Tusino | cybetter: Ping me if you're around | 10:11 |
| wellu | coderus: so something along the lines: | 10:12 |
| wellu | js.files = js/engine.js | 10:12 |
| coderus | i'm changing all fixed anchors to Theme ones. what display resolution of Jolla? | 10:12 |
| wellu | js.path = ?? | 10:12 |
| wellu | INSTALLS += js | 10:13 |
| coderus | wellu: js.path = /usr/share/$${TARGET} usually | 10:13 |
| coderus | subfolder it as you want to use it in your project | 10:14 |
| coderus | usually it /usr/share/$${TARGET}/qml/js | 10:14 |
| MFaro-Tusino | s/cybetter/cybette | 10:14 |
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| coderus | MFaro-Tusino: disable autocorrection for window if it possible :) | 10:15 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I disabled it in sys pref but it still happens! | 10:15 |
| wellu | coderus: got it working. Thanks! | 10:16 |
| wellu | coderus: so it seems that I don' t need to touch with .spec nor .yaml files directly? | 10:17 |
| coderus | MFaro-Tusino: Mac thinking for you :D | 10:17 |
| coderus | wellu: right. qtcreator should do it for you | 10:17 |
| coderus | wellu: only in some special cases for adding dependency, etc | 10:18 |
| zuh | coderus: is https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-screen.html what you are looking for? | 10:18 |
| coderus | wellu: and changing app version ofc. :D | 10:18 |
| coderus | zuh: i'm just asking. not for development :) | 10:18 |
| wellu | coderus: seems logical enough | 10:19 |
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| zuh | coderus: Well, the example given there should be what you are looking for then :) | 10:20 |
| zuh | (from jolla.com: Ample 4.5" IPS qHD (960x540) display) | 10:20 |
| coderus | zuh: i'm not asking about development, man. i have no Jolla, i'm just asking what screen resolution it have? | 10:20 |
| coderus | zuh: thanks god :D | 10:20 |
| zuh | coderus: from the doc I linked "For example with 540x960 display the height would return 960." | 10:20 |
| zuh | ;) | 10:21 |
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| kontio | coderus: use https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-screen.html to not hardcode the size... | 10:23 |
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| coderus | zuh: i know framebuffer on Jolla have portrait orientation :) | 10:31 |
| coderus | kontio: :D i'm not asking for development :D | 10:31 |
| kontio | sorry didn't read well the back log... | 10:32 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | lbt:ping | 10:51 |
| wellu | moro rainemak veskuh Jonni :) | 10:51 |
| veskuh | moro wellu | 10:51 |
| Jonni | moe | 10:52 |
| lbt | tortoisedoc_: pong | 10:53 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: related to cross-gdb from win7; I got a debugger compiled, and it can step / break etc, but code highlight is missing and it falls back to disasm by default | 10:54 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (ie it is not able to find sources apparently) | 10:54 |
| wellu | Hmm... Can't launch SailfishOS debugger for some reason. I'm seeing Launching mini dialog on Qt Creator for ever. | 10:55 |
| wellu | running VM in release mode works just fine. | 10:55 |
| lbt | tortoisedoc_: you're running the x-gdb on win7 ? | 10:55 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: hmm no, i686 compiled with cygwin | 10:55 |
| * lbt blinks | 10:55 | |
| tortoisedoc_ | but for some reason, it does not find my sources and falls back to disassembler (in qt creator) | 10:56 |
| lbt | so... all users will have a linux machine with a pre-built gdb installable in it which can talk to the device (the BE) | 10:56 |
| lbt | so rather than have a variety of native solutions for win/mac/ubu/redhat | 10:57 |
| coderus | question about pageStack and Page status. | 10:57 |
| lbt | I think running the x-gdb on the BE (which has the src, debug symbols and targets) is a better approach | 10:57 |
| lbt | I thought you were using the x-gdb from Mer I pointed you at? | 10:57 |
| coderus | Page.status changing when pagestack not changed currentPage | 10:58 |
| coderus | i cant get page user popping ot pushing to, from current page | 10:58 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: nope, I am lazy dastard and want to debug from qtcreator :P | 10:58 |
| lbt | yes that's fine | 10:58 |
| lbt | you know how gcc runs on the BE ? | 10:59 |
| tortoisedoc_ | via merssh? | 10:59 |
| lbt | I'd like to use the same approach with QtC / gdb | 10:59 |
| lbt | yes | 10:59 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm ok | 10:59 |
| Hartzi | coderus: should i quit mitakuuluu before updating it? | 10:59 |
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| lbt | now it's possible that QtC can't do that - it may talk remote-gdb protocol itself | 10:59 |
| tortoisedoc_ | now I am a bit confused | 11:00 |
| tortoisedoc_ | I noticed the .cmd scripts for the merssh bridge | 11:00 |
| lbt | that's fair | 11:00 |
| tortoisedoc_ | but then I noticed also gdb is run from sailfish\bin\gdb-i486.....exe | 11:00 |
| coderus | Hartzi: it should be quited automatically duting installation/remove :) | 11:00 |
| coderus | s/duting/during | 11:00 |
| lbt | tortoisedoc_: just because we have a decent design doesn't mean the implementation is sane :) | 11:01 |
| Hartzi | coderus: ok :) | 11:01 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: no complains about the design :P im just a n00b so im the one missing sanity here hehe | 11:01 |
| coderus | on Page.status == Inactive i'm getting pageStack.currentPage not changing but pageStack.depth is changed | 11:02 |
| lbt | tortoisedoc_: it's fine - you're right, I think the gdb side is not fully/properly implemented yet | 11:02 |
| lbt | and I'm not aware that the sdk team have had time to publish the src yet | 11:02 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: source for gdb I assume? | 11:02 |
| lbt | QtC | 11:03 |
| tortoisedoc_ | aah :) yes | 11:03 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: so just to get a better understanding; qtcreator -> merssh -> x-gdb -> device is the wanted approach, correct? | 11:04 |
| lbt | tortoisedoc_: it seems sane to me | 11:04 |
| wellu | "GDB debugging from Qt Creator is broken at the moment on both emulator and device. Workaround is to run GDB from the command line." | 11:04 |
| lbt | I'm assuming that QtC would normally exec() gdb | 11:04 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: not questioning, just trying to understand what is broken and how to fix it :P | 11:04 |
| wellu | so can't debug from within Qt Creator at all? | 11:04 |
| tortoisedoc_ | wellu: debug works fine on emulator | 11:05 |
| tortoisedoc_ | but not on device :P | 11:05 |
| lbt | really ? | 11:05 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (from qtcreator, sorry forgot to add) | 11:06 |
| lbt | good | 11:06 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: so problem is in qtcreator device debugging plugin, not in x-gdb... | 11:06 |
| lbt | but I *think* that the current QtC approach is to rebuild a version of the toolchain for every QtC platform | 11:06 |
| lbt | which is not really sensible given the BE is present | 11:07 |
| wellu | tortoisedoc: that was copy-paste from https://sailfishos.org/wiki/SDK_Alpha_Qt5_Known_Issues | 11:07 |
| tortoisedoc_ | wellu : ah thanks :P | 11:07 |
| wellu | tortoisedoc: can you confirm that debugging works on Qt Creator using simulator out-of-the-box? | 11:07 |
| lbt | FYI I'm not really active in the Sailfish SDK development any more so I could be a little out-of-date | 11:07 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: that's ok, thanks for your support btw it clears things up already | 11:08 |
| lbt | np - it may be worth digging into the QtC src to see how QtC talks to gdb | 11:09 |
| wellu | for some reason I cannot start my app in debug mode on simulator at all. It hangs in Launching state forever. | 11:09 |
| tortoisedoc_ | wellu: CONFIG += debug in .pro`? | 11:09 |
| wellu | tortoisedoc: that should come automatically out from Build settings. There is qmake line there with CONFIG += debug | 11:10 |
| lbt | I never got a straight answer to that - essentially we need to replace the 'gdb' that QtC uses with one that transparently executes over ssh ... merssh was supposed to be a general purpose remote execution tool but I'm not sure it got written like that :) | 11:11 |
| tortoisedoc_ | wellu: for me it works just fine, been using it to compare debugger logs between emu & device | 11:12 |
| tortoisedoc_ | wellu: btw, for debugger logs: qtcreator -> window -> views -> debugger log | 11:12 |
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| wellu | hmm.. I'm running 64 bit Ubuntu here. No errors in the logs though or anything fishy. | 11:13 |
| wellu | tortoisedoc: last line NOTE: REQUEST REMOTE SETUP | 11:14 |
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| riddleepl | Hello there, I do not have a jolla phone (unfortunately I bought iphone some time ago so I cannot afford another phone yet :P). I've a question regarding app distribution. Does sailfish has app store for native apps? | 11:16 |
| tortoisedoc_ | wellu: hmm do you have gdbserver installed on the target? | 11:16 |
| lbt | riddleepl: yes it does | 11:16 |
| wellu | tortoisedoc_: in the simulator? shouldn't that be there by default. | 11:17 |
| wellu | haven't tried this on real device yet at all. | 11:17 |
| riddleepl | and this is not the Yandex store? | 11:17 |
| tortoisedoc_ | wellu: *should* never really applies in SW :P | 11:17 |
| tortoisedoc_ | it is easy to verify from QtC | 11:17 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: this would mean using the SailfishAlpha3/MerSDK/SailfishOS-armv7hl/ scripts, right? (*.cmd for wind0wz users like me) | 11:18 |
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| jani | tortoisedoc_: what os you arae running the qtc ? I tried yesterday debuggin on osx and it didnt work at all .. just | 11:21 |
| riddleepl | tortoisedoc_ write code in TDD instead of using debugger :P | 11:21 |
| jani | ack there it is few lines up, windows .. | 11:21 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | jani: no idea about osx, sorry | 11:22 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | riddleepl : tdd? :P | 11:22 |
| lbt | tortoisedoc_: looking | 11:22 |
| riddleepl | tortoisedoc_: test driven development ;-) | 11:23 |
| jani | tortoisedoc_: test driven development | 11:23 |
| jani | write tests first, then actual code to make the test pass. | 11:23 |
| tortoisedoc_ | riddleepl: yeah cause I've got time to build wayland for windows :P | 11:23 |
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| riddleepl | I can give another simple solution! switch to linux! .. just kidding. Use whatever you like to ;-) | 11:24 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :P | 11:24 |
| tortoisedoc_ | I know, but you know, lazy and all | 11:24 |
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| wellu | tortoisedoc_: so something special I should do to enable debugging on simulator? Should I e.g install some more packages or what? | 11:25 |
| wellu | running on 64 bit Ubuntu and latest Qt Creator + SailfishOS SDK | 11:26 |
| riddleepl | I thought you could use linux on VM.. but it would be like inception.. developing sailfish in VM, and have 2 more VM inside the first one :P | 11:26 |
| wellu | running in release mode works just fine on simulator. | 11:26 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | wellu: gdbserver installed in the i486 target? | 11:27 |
| wellu | so ssh in and do some package installation by hand? | 11:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | wellu : nono, from QtC click sailfishos icon from left sidebar | 11:30 |
| tortoisedoc_ | the targets, then next to i486... clik "manage" | 11:30 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: seems QtC can exec gdb either from env var or from a qtc profile | 11:31 |
| tortoisedoc_ | *from path taken from | 11:31 |
| wellu | ok | 11:31 |
| wellu | and install gdb-gdbserver | 11:31 |
| lbt | tortoisedoc_: but it does a 'simple' exec ? | 11:31 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: it does a gdbProc()->start(); but what gdbProc is is yet to be seen | 11:33 |
| lbt | I suspect merssh needs to be written to properly proxy - and that may cause issues with thinks like pty | 11:34 |
| riddleepl | Can I write apps for sailfish using qml and js only? | 11:35 |
| lbt | also QtC may be hardwired to use native toolchains like MSVS on some platforms | 11:35 |
| lbt | riddleepl: yes | 11:35 |
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| riddleepl | Nice, I can rest of c++ ;-) | 11:36 |
| tortoisedoc_ | riddleepl : you will miss all the fun parts ;) | 11:37 |
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| riddleepl | tortoisedoc_: oh.. about c++. Can I use c++11 freely? | 11:40 |
| tortoisedoc_ | riddleepl : c++11 I have no idea :P i think latest gcc has support for it, but which version is included in sailfishos I do not recall | 11:40 |
| riddleepl | if not, there is no fun part :P | 11:40 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hah :P | 11:41 |
| wellu | tortoisedoc_: installed gdb-gdbserver on target... no help :( | 11:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | riddleepl: gcc version 4.6.4 does it support c++11 ? | 11:41 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hrm | 11:41 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | riddleepl: http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.6/cxx0x_status.html | 11:41 |
| riddleepl | partialy | 11:42 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | riddleepl: and use "CONFIG += c++11" in your pro file if you want to enable support for C++11 in your Qt project | 11:42 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | it _should_ work most of the time | 11:42 |
| riddleepl | yeah _should_ as OS libs are not compiled with c++11 flag enabled | 11:44 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: ok actually this is easier than it seems | 11:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | riddleepl: this doesn't really matter does this ? | 11:45 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: in qtcreator win -> tools -> options -> build & run, debugger entry points to the same .exe file | 11:45 |
| tortoisedoc_ | so no merssh there :P | 11:46 |
| riddleepl | http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/Cxx11AbiCompatibility | 11:46 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm I wonder what will happen, if I switch to the cmd... | 11:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | riddleepl: ah, geez | 11:46 |
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| riddleepl | Sfiet_Konstantin: yeah.. | 11:46 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | f | 11:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | riddleepl: I wonder what C++11 features do you want exactly | 11:50 |
| lbt | tortoisedoc_: so if you manage to setup a cygwin command that 'feels' like gdb then that may work | 11:51 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: UNEXPECTED GDB STDERR: Project ERROR: Project is outside of shared home 'C:\Users\kammedo' and shared src 'C:\Users\kammedo'. | 11:51 |
| coderus | where i can look for sailfishapp PKGCONFIG contents? | 11:51 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | (this if I replace in qt creator options .exe with .cmd) | 11:51 |
| lbt | tortoisedoc_: this is what happens when you layer hack over hack :/ | 11:52 |
| riddleepl | Its not that I want or need. Its nice to use initiliazer list, Uniform initialization or new for statement.I love the new lambas | 11:52 |
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| lbt | if you want to talk about C++11 then check #mer | 11:53 |
| lbt | afaiui it's arriving in Qt5.2-ish | 11:53 |
| lbt | and there was discuussion of being required at some point | 11:54 |
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| jani | btw, GPLv3 frowned upon license? qtcreator build scripts complain about that .. | 11:55 |
| Stskeeps | stupid message from yaml | 11:55 |
| jani | but its in red!!11 =) | 11:56 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: yeah :( | 12:10 |
| suy | you mean that if C++11 is not enabled by the libraries, you can't use it? | 12:10 |
| * tbr is now at 30C3, jolla/sailfish-hackdesk (chaoswelle assembly) | 12:10 | |
| lbt | tbr: say "hi" from me :) | 12:11 |
| tbr | :) | 12:11 |
| suy | Mmm, I don't get that. Even qt 4.8 has support for things like initializer lists if the compiler supports it, isn't it? | 12:12 |
| fk_lx | tbr: keep up the good work :-) | 12:15 |
| tbr | keep calm and hack on! | 12:16 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: from command line, the error is different : Project ERROR: Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. No private key file given. | 12:17 |
| tortoisedoc_ | perhaps there is no support in qt 2.8.1 for merssh | 12:18 |
| tortoisedoc_ | and only debugger available is "traditional" host -> target over toolchain .exe | 12:18 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :/ | 12:18 |
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| Elleo | thp: thanks :) | 12:19 |
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| artemma | Does anybody know how to connect Android monitor to Jolla device? Or to get logcat logs elsehow? I want to figure why recent builds of our Android app started crashing on Jolla | 12:20 |
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| artemma | if I just connect device via USD, android monitor doesn't see it | 12:20 |
| artemma | ah, figured you can start logcat while in ssh and get logs to screen.. okay that could do it for now | 12:22 |
| riddleepl | where can I read something about how sailfish runs android apps? | 12:25 |
| Pnuu | https://together.jolla.com/question/3612/release-notes-software-update-2-1025/ | 12:26 |
| ln- | can i launch an android app from the command line to get some info on why it is crashing? | 12:26 |
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| thp | Elleo: thanks for the patch ;) | 12:28 |
| Elleo | no problem, excited to see python stuff progressing on sailfish :) | 12:29 |
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| riddleepl | I wish we had ruby on sailfish | 12:30 |
| fk_lx | riddleepl: what for? :-) | 12:31 |
| riddleepl | instead of python ;) | 12:31 |
| fk_lx | besides isn't there mer-ruby stuff already? | 12:31 |
| fk_lx | at least I recall ruby packages in Sailfish/Mer SDK | 12:32 |
| pp_ | ln-: you can also just run logcat | 12:32 |
| pp_ | and use the app normally | 12:32 |
| pp_ | see /opt/alien/system/bin | 12:33 |
| jani | Pnuu: real ? =) | 12:33 |
| Pnuu | jani: should be coming out any-minute-now :-) | 12:33 |
| lbt | jani: yes | 12:34 |
| lbt | artemma: logcat is there | 12:34 |
| lbt | in /system/bin/ | 12:34 |
| ln- | pp_: thanks | 12:34 |
| artemma | lbt: yep, I found it and used, thanks guys | 12:35 |
| * lbt needs to read full backlog and not reply as he goes | 12:35 | |
| artemma | it's not as confortable as running a desktop tool, but is good enough | 12:35 |
| riddleepl | could someone share some source code of c++ app for sailfish? Github link or something will be nice :) | 12:35 |
| lbt | riddleepl: you can download the SDK you know? | 12:36 |
| lbt | it has a full emulator | 12:36 |
| lbt | and you can build C++ and/or QML apps on it | 12:37 |
| artemma | riddleepl: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=minimal+helloworld+sailfish | 12:37 |
| artemma | Always wanted to do it with a project of mine :) | 12:37 |
| coderus | ssu re 1.0.2.5 && zypper ref && zypper up :) | 12:38 |
| coderus | working | 12:38 |
| coderus | repos fetching | 12:38 |
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| coderus | 166 packages to upgrade, 2 new | 12:41 |
| coderus | wow | 12:41 |
| tabasko_ | such update | 12:42 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | update?? w00t! Where :P | 12:53 |
| riddleepl | lbt: I know, Ive already installed it - works fine. I just wanted to see some code with qml integrated with c++ | 12:53 |
| riddleepl | not a hello world :D | 12:53 |
| fk_lx | riddleepl: there is a page on qt documentation about C++ and qml integration | 12:57 |
| jani | system update dowloading ;) | 12:57 |
| slate | yea, any changelog available yet? | 12:57 |
| coderus | riddleepl: did you read documentation? press F! in QtCreator. There is a lot of documentation | 12:57 |
| jani | slate: https://together.jolla.com/question/3612/release-notes-software-update-2-1025/ | 12:57 |
| coderus | slate: link before by Pnuu | 12:57 |
| coderus | https://together.jolla.com/question/3612/release-notes-software-update-2-1025/ | 12:57 |
| slate | thanks mates | 12:58 |
| jani | coderus: did you use your own code for notifications in mitakuuluu or was there some component available ? it looked quite nice - better than khertan's InfoBox. | 12:59 |
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| Elleo | jani: I can't speak for coderus, but it is possible to display notifications by sending them to the org.freedesktop.Notifications dbus service (this'll display them system-wide, not just inside your app) | 13:01 |
| riddleepl | coderus: thanks, I will check it. I just prefer reading code, not documentation.;-) | 13:02 |
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| Wnt | is it possible to install packages to the MerSDK virtual machine via the SailfishOS tab in Qt Creator? | 13:03 |
| lbt | riddleepl: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtqml/qtqml-cppintegration-interactqmlfromcpp.html | 13:04 |
| Wnt | or do I need to ssh in to there and use zypper from the command line? | 13:04 |
| lbt | riddleepl: mainly code with some explanation | 13:04 |
| jani | Elleo: ack, good to know. will check that. | 13:05 |
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| jani | btw, what the use of ~/Playlists dir in the device ? Atleast it doesnt get indexed as i was expecting it would. I tried placing *.pls file there and it won't show up in Media player, it does it its placed into ~/Music/ | 13:08 |
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| Andy80 | anyone else is having problems installing/upgrading packages from the Jolla store? | 13:12 |
| entil | haha that's the talk on #jollamobile | 13:12 |
| entil | it's a bit slow but it's getting there | 13:12 |
| sjtoik | Andy80: quite a few reports on #jollamobile | 13:12 |
| entil | seems fine, albeit slow | 13:12 |
| Andy80 | oh sorry if I used the wrong channel :) | 13:13 |
| entil | speaking of which, does anyone have a quick clue for why my qml page loads really slow and by the time it's done it's got all the signal-based properties ok? | 13:13 |
| coderus | jani: i'm using system notifications | 13:14 |
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| entil | I set it all off with Component.onCompleted: { appWindow.csvhandler.parseFile(); } so I'd imagine the qml page to be rendered before parseFile() is called | 13:14 |
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| coderus | Wnt: SDK Control Center installing packages to build machine :) | 13:18 |
| coderus | entil: do your job asynchronously or with Worker | 13:18 |
| entil | that's what I thought qt did by default | 13:18 |
| entil | like with property binding | 13:19 |
| entil | coderus: what else do I need? | 13:19 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm | 13:20 |
| entil | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qml-qtquick2-loader.html#asynchronous-prop is probably related | 13:21 |
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| zuh | entil: Component isn't a visual thing AFAIK, so component being ready != page is rendered | 13:23 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | hmmm | 13:24 |
| tortoisedoc_ | update problem : Location 'https://store-repository.jolla.com/SbJ/armv7hl/repodata/repomd.xml?credentials=store' is temporarily unaccessible. | 13:24 |
| entil | zuh: my theory on this was that it starts doing it async but the async stuff is so heavy it doesn't get to render | 13:24 |
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| coderus | just use WOrker to make asynchronous actions without freezing GUI | 13:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :( | 13:28 |
| entil | trying to figure out where the documentation of worker is | 13:28 |
| coderus | is there Qt5 replacement for inputContext.customSoftwareInputPanelComponent? | 13:28 |
| entil | coderus: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtcore/qthread.html#details that's the worker you mean? implement that pattern? | 13:29 |
| tortoisedoc_ | crap | 13:29 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | no merssh tool in qtcreator 2.8.1 source code >_< | 13:29 |
| coderus | entil: i mean WorkerScript | 13:30 |
| zuh | entil: an easy test for that would be to have a very short (eg. just 1ms) timer there that gets started in onCompleted and then starts the work. If it manages to render first page after that, then onCompleted probably blocks it | 13:30 |
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| zuh | OTOH, if it's just the work being too much to handle, nothing would really change | 13:31 |
| entil | it's really not that bad | 13:31 |
| entil | I'm reading in a csv of exported n900 text messages, converting into custom objects and want them inserted into the jolla comm app | 13:31 |
| entil | I got to the point where the csv is parsed (hopefully correct) | 13:31 |
| entil | 12773 text messages causes a bit of a lag, though, and I'd like to get the async/property-bound stuff done correct | 13:32 |
| entil | like after the parsing is done, emit a signal, and react on that to do the insertion | 13:32 |
| entil | coderus: isn't WorkerScript a bit useless? I have the things I need to care about in a regular QObject which is bound to appWindow and now WorkerScript doesn't share the context or allow passing of QObjects :P | 13:34 |
| coderus | entil: well, it depends on situation ofc. | 13:34 |
| entil | useless for this case, I'm sure there are tons of useful applications within those limitation ;P | 13:34 |
| entil | but I'm thinking I need to figure out how to create a new thread from my CSVHandler() and have the qml pick up execution as fast as possible and then have the thread suicide itself or whatever later | 13:35 |
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| coderus | really. i need custom sip panel in my application for emoji | 13:54 |
| coderus | is it gone? :( | 13:54 |
| jani | update removed ambience favourites. | 13:55 |
| coderus | jani: but not removed custom ambiences :) | 13:56 |
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| coderus | entil: just do it in separate thread | 13:58 |
| jani | all ambiences are there, that favourites menu is epmty (not shown on side swipe due that).. | 13:58 |
| coderus | jani: my 2 custom ambiences was saved on upgrade :) | 13:58 |
| entil | coderus: yeah, working on it, though it doesn't even compile at the moment | 13:59 |
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| entil | gonna have a QThread for CSVWorker and figure out how it'll do all the heavy lifting | 13:59 |
| entil | the qml, I guess, needs to talk to that thread with property binding to see progress? | 13:59 |
| entil | this will be messy and hard :( | 13:59 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Aard:ping | 14:01 |
| coderus | entil: you can send events from your thread to main | 14:03 |
| entil | so much to figure out.. been year since I touched anything multithreaded and never seen this stuff before | 14:04 |
| entil | qt, that is | 14:04 |
| entil | but yeah, sure, the thread has to find a channel to qml | 14:05 |
| coderus | check qthread and qthreadpool | 14:05 |
| entil | all the breakage I got made me shift focus to inheriting from QThread directly, the code looks a bit simpler | 14:05 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | lbt:is merssh available for source? it seems the one on qt git is not the latest | 14:21 |
| lbt | *grumble* : no | 14:21 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | *rebel* | 14:24 |
| tortoisedoc_ | darn | 14:24 |
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| entil | holy shit, I actually got this thing to compile | 14:27 |
| entil | doesn't look like anything on qt-project.org, which doesn't look anything like what I think I'm looking for ;P | 14:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | entil: anything specific? | 14:28 |
| entil | tortoisedoc_: I don't know about http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtcore/qthread.html#details | 14:28 |
| entil | tortoisedoc_: like even if that code is .h or .cpp | 14:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | eh :D | 14:29 |
| entil | my guess is it's the actual .cpp code BUT when the ide creates skeleton files it puts the class stuff in .h with that syntax | 14:29 |
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| entil | it's been closer to a decade since I've even seen c++ so this is coming pretty much from the trial and error school of programming, as well as google and the ide tooltip helps | 14:30 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | hmm | 14:33 |
| tortoisedoc_ | maybe ill just stick in compiling gdb via mingw | 14:33 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ;_; | 14:33 |
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| entil | in c++ a thread is apparently called by .start(), which takes no arguments, which calls the .run() method similarly without arguments, so any data I want to pass to the thread is in the QThread object's constructor, right? | 14:42 |
| entil | [W] queuedConnectionTypes:92 - QObject::connect: Cannot queue arguments of type 'QList<MessageObject*>' | 14:44 |
| entil | at least there's something ;P | 14:44 |
| mike7b4_on_x230 | Can someone clarify if pyton2 IS supported or not in sailfish? (I know its in the repo but qestion is if it shall be seen | 14:44 |
| mike7b4_on_x230 | as deprecated or not? | 14:44 |
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| tbr | mike7b4_on_x230: you can't use it for store applications at the moment, it will be available in the future | 14:49 |
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| Pnuu | tbr: not even through c++ system() call? | 14:51 |
| tbr | no idea | 14:52 |
| tbr | but if it's not installed you can't make the package depend on it | 14:52 |
| Pnuu | weird | 14:53 |
| Pnuu | I thought that one could list the packages that are required by the app, and those would be installed to fulfill the requirements | 14:54 |
| Pnuu | and as python2 is in the default repo.. | 14:54 |
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| tbr | Pnuu: check the store FAQ, it's answered there. tnx. | 14:55 |
| entil | against all odds, I had some mild success with this crap :D it really looks like the Page qml is rendered before any results arrive and the results seem correct in qDebug() | 14:55 |
| Pnuu | ok :-) | 14:55 |
| entil | unfortunately I have none of the real data yet in qml.. | 14:55 |
| entil | the combined google, tooltip and trial-and-error school of programming seems to work well ;P | 14:56 |
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| coderus | entil: QThreadPool::start(QRunnable, priority) | 15:01 |
| coderus | create class based on QRunnable processing events | 15:01 |
| entil | coderus: I already did this with QThread | 15:02 |
| coderus | entil: so working or not? :) | 15:02 |
| entil | it seems to an extent, I get the results to CSVHandler::insertMessages(MessageObjectList messages) | 15:02 |
| entil | if they are the correct results, it's ok | 15:02 |
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| entil | I'm guessing I can't access the thread in any meaningful way through qml? | 15:08 |
| entil | if I could, I'd have a reference from the handler class (set in appWindow.csvhandler) to the thread and then I'd still have to be polling crap | 15:08 |
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| entil | is the solution to define the worker thread as a qml type? so I can use some kind of qml syntax to receive the signals the worker thread emits? | 15:09 |
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| erikdj | Hi, all. I just got the SDK | 15:14 |
| entil | the easy way would probably be to connect the signals from the worker to the handler, as it is visible to qml, and have qml react on that | 15:14 |
| * entil is fscking lost | 15:14 | |
| erikdj | But it won't start, just gives me a segfault | 15:14 |
| erikdj | When I try to start qtcreator | 15:15 |
| erikdj | strace shows me that it is looking at some of the kde4 libraries I have installed before the segfault occurs | 15:15 |
| erikdj | My system is Sabayon 64bits | 15:15 |
| erikdj | Are there known issues? | 15:15 |
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| erikdj | Hmmm, removing the qt libs in the SailfishOS/lib directory looks like it solves the segfaults | 15:28 |
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| erikdj | Not elegant, I would assume there is a reason the installer provides it's own qt libs | 15:29 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: I see, how sensitive is merssh? | 15:35 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :D | 15:35 |
| tortoisedoc_ | in a way, how much information can be shared about it? | 15:35 |
| Yaniel | mer is completely public? | 15:36 |
| tortoisedoc_ | merssh is not? | 15:37 |
| tortoisedoc_ | at least not the latest version? | 15:37 |
| tortoisedoc_ | or am I just too dumb to be able to look in the correct place? :P | 15:37 |
| Yaniel | probably | 15:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :D | 15:38 |
| Yaniel | see merproject.org | 15:38 |
| Yaniel | tons of free stuff | 15:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | im just a poor n00b -_- | 15:38 |
| Yaniel | as on oss | 15:38 |
| Yaniel | in* | 15:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Yaniel : this is the best I found about merssh https://qt.gitorious.org/qt-creator/mer-qt-creator/source/997e2b1285ce38c344ccfee1f7ad5337d7de249b:src/tools/merssh/main.cpp | 15:40 |
| tortoisedoc_ | from google | 15:40 |
| Yaniel | sailfish is essentially mer + nemo + silica and some othr jolla-specific stuff | 15:40 |
| kontio | yeah the mer plugin is not yet merged to master/upstream, it's still wip | 15:40 |
| tortoisedoc_ | kontio: thanks | 15:41 |
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| lbt | tortoisedoc_: it should be totally open - it's not sensitive at all | 15:41 |
| lbt | tortoisedoc_: our SDK team just haven't had time to sort out publishing the src; there have been some issues about license of the brand aspects | 15:42 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: thats understandable | 15:43 |
| lbt | ie we don't want someone else building an SDK and calling it the Sailfish SDK | 15:43 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ...and that makes even more sense now :P | 15:43 |
| lbt | the git repos have branding hardcoded into them | 15:43 |
| kaari | Ok, but then again I have albums with covers, but they dont show. Should the picture file named some specific? | 15:45 |
| kaari | Hi, I have problem with mediaplayer getting album covers to show. Some albums their show ok, but some doesnt. It doesnt seem to care if it on sdcard or internal memory. Also I thought it indexis only from folders, but have one album with no pictures, but still it shows right cover for it. So is there some database where mediaplayer tries to fin covers? | 15:45 |
| coderus | does Sailfish have classes for handling sms messages? | 15:47 |
| kaari | sorry, I put same question again. it was chritmas iI last time post those, and now those are in wrong order. Do anyone know how sailfish manages indexing? | 15:48 |
| coderus | kaari: indexing what? | 15:50 |
| kaari | mediaplayer, album covers | 15:50 |
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| kaari | i have manny albums, both in internal and sd, but some how it only show few covers. And I dont know whats the problem. | 15:52 |
| coderus | =( | 15:53 |
| kaari | it doesn't matter if internal or sdcard. So i thoght if it using internet indexing, which i dont blelieve. But then again why dont those pictures show in album covers which are there in right music folder. And they show in pictures ans can use those as ambiences. . . | 15:55 |
| kaari | is the some filename that should be used, but that seem not also work? | 15:56 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | aha! | 16:02 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Process Started - PID: 2816 | 64-bit | conhost.exe | | Unsupported architecture. | 16:02 |
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| Tumeez | Problem Store? | 16:05 |
| Tumeez | in* | 16:05 |
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| tbr | yes, be patient | 16:05 |
| tbr | it's overloaded | 16:05 |
| Tumeez | Yea, i think it. | 16:05 |
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| kaari | same for me, trying to get screenshot app. | 16:12 |
| kaari | and there is not cancel option. . . | 16:12 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: one step closer | 16:14 |
| tortoisedoc_ | on mer sdk | 16:14 |
| tortoisedoc_ | enter python | 16:14 |
| tortoisedoc_ | do a | 16:14 |
| tortoisedoc_ | import itertools | 16:14 |
| tortoisedoc_ | i get importerror :/ | 16:15 |
| tortoisedoc_ | seems cross-gdb executes this script | 16:15 |
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| coderus | HTTP 502 on accessing store :D | 16:16 |
| tortoisedoc_ | coderus : yeah update has not been working for me :( | 16:16 |
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| * tortoisedoc_ can't wait to get email fixed! | 16:16 | |
| suy | kaari: same here. Only 1 cover appears automatically on the media app. Dunno what's used to autodiscover them, but on N9 was conver.jpg on the directory. | 16:16 |
| lbt | tortoisedoc_: yeah - that's why QtC SDK now comes *with a complete build of python* ffs :/ | 16:17 |
| lbt | hack upon hack upon hack... | 16:17 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: ? | 16:17 |
| kaari | i have about half for my albums, but there seems no reason for that. | 16:18 |
| lbt | tortoisedoc_: nm ... I'm just moaning about our SDK | 16:19 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: ah ok :) | 16:19 |
| lbt | we have a build engine | 16:19 |
| lbt | guess what it has inside... | 16:19 |
| lbt | python! | 16:19 |
| suy | lbt: that's upstream's sdk or jolla's? | 16:19 |
| tortoisedoc_ | python is an excellent building language :P | 16:20 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (as a defence) | 16:20 |
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| suy | tortoisedoc_: If you ever want to build Qt on Windows you will find a nice suprise about nice building languages. You need Perl, Python and Ruby to build all the modules. :-D True story. | 16:21 |
| lbt | tortoisedoc_: yes - but rather than having to build+support host-side python for linux/mac/windows ... why don't we just use the BE one? | 16:21 |
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| lbt | suy: upstream mer one | 16:21 |
| tortoisedoc_ | suy : thats reason enough for me never to have to build qt :P | 16:22 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: just to make sure we are on the same page ( i loose pretty fast track), I am talking about mersdk vm python here, NOT window side | 16:23 |
| suy | tortoisedoc_: luckily you rarely need to. I had to build qt for our embedded system, but nothing else should be really necessary. But windows people are not happy when they have to test/develop pre-releases. | 16:23 |
| lbt | tortoisedoc_: yeah, I think you're doing it properly | 16:24 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | suy: it can also be a cool summer vacation project :P | 16:26 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | hmm | 16:30 |
| tortoisedoc_ | how do i change target in sb2?? | 16:30 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | aah sb2 -t :P | 16:33 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | ok, in the sb2 targets the problem does not exist | 16:33 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (meaning the import error) | 16:33 |
| krandom | hmm, I was offered the updates... and have installed everything except for Android runtime, which still fails (possibly due to server overload?) | 16:34 |
| krandom | and I was finally offered the system update too, however now I have these two notifications in the events screen, and nothing else happens :| | 16:35 |
| krandom | I can't even clear them, I can't open the Store anymore, and from About Device selecting Update from pulley does nothing :\ | 16:35 |
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| Pnuu | krandom: wait | 16:37 |
| krandom | I'm checking if there's any traffic with tcpdump, and currently there isn't anything. I was hoping it downloads stuff. | 16:38 |
| krandom | I'll give it more time :) | 16:38 |
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| Pnuu | the servers are overloaded | 16:38 |
| coderus | implemented "Delete everything" button in mitakuuluu :D | 16:39 |
| coderus | whatsapp account successfully removed from server and cant login anymore :D | 16:39 |
| coderus | its working :D | 16:39 |
| raa70 | hopefully it's in the pulley so that when you start pulling middle of screen it gets selected just as you go over from bottom | 16:40 |
| krandom | Pnuu, k... I'll just leave it be, and whenever it can do it, it'll do it I assume. | 16:40 |
| krandom | coderus, may I recommend that you move some of the options from pulley menu to a separate screen? it's a damn long menu currently :D | 16:41 |
| coderus | krandom: i'm thinking about it | 16:41 |
| coderus | just hate column of buttons | 16:41 |
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| raa70 | does pkcon install-local check something from store? trying to install mitäkuuluu .1-6 and it's queuing? | 16:49 |
| raa70 | all other installs have gone in a blitz | 16:49 |
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| raa70 | or is it because I'm trying to update other apps from store? | 16:50 |
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| coderus | raa70: its because PackageKit is busy with some action. system cant perform multiple installation actions at same moment. all going with queue. | 16:54 |
| coderus | s/going/doing | 16:54 |
| raa70 | k | 16:54 |
| raa70 | ty | 16:54 |
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| coderus | you can use zypper, it checks for PackageKit and asking for killing it :D | 16:54 |
| coderus | useful sometimes :D | 16:55 |
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| raa70 | coderus: what's the green bar next to name? | 17:03 |
| Pnuu | raa70: online status | 17:04 |
| coderus | raa70: available/unavailable presence | 17:04 |
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| sunkan | Is it possible to have tab distance in a TextArea to follow the font size, so that it is possible to lay out text in a predictive way and also allow changing the font size? | 17:48 |
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| Tumeez | I van download now | 18:59 |
| Tumeez | c* | 18:59 |
| Tumeez | Install or not? | 18:59 |
| stephg | why not? unless you've not seen any of the bugs that it fixes? | 19:00 |
| Tumeez | Ah okay, someone says that new update is patched alltime | 19:01 |
| Naranek | just downloaded and upgraded. seemed to work OK | 19:07 |
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| Tumeez | Nice | 19:12 |
| Tumeez | First start | 19:12 |
| Tumeez | Battery power: 0% | 19:12 |
| Tumeez | Freezing notification-window | 19:12 |
| Naranek | try to divert energy from shields? | 19:13 |
| Pnuu | :-D | 19:13 |
| Yaniel | rather from drone control | 19:14 |
| Tumeez | And shutting down | 19:14 |
| Tumeez | It's brick now? | 19:14 |
| Tumeez | :D | 19:15 |
| Tumeez | Fucking nice | 19:15 |
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| Yaniel | I guess I'd better plug in the charger | 19:18 |
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| Tumeez | Yaniel before updating battery is 55% | 19:19 |
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| Yaniel | I had 33% | 19:20 |
| Yaniel | almost done updating, let's see if it boots | 19:20 |
| Stskeeps | Tumeez: 1) you're on jolla device and 2) what did you upgrade from? | 19:21 |
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| Tumeez | I updating 1.0.2.5 Maadajärvi? | 19:22 |
| Yaniel | jävri* | 19:22 |
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| Yaniel | it booted \o/ | 19:23 |
| Tumeez | jävri? | 19:23 |
| smokex | \o/ | 19:23 |
| Stskeeps | Tumeez: okay, and what version number was it after upgrade? | 19:23 |
| Tumeez | 1.0.1.12? | 19:23 |
| Yaniel | 1.0.1.12 -> 1.0.2.5 | 19:23 |
| Tumeez | Yea. | 19:23 |
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| Yaniel | Maadajävri | 19:23 |
| Yaniel | according to someone on together it is the sami spelling | 19:24 |
| Stskeeps | Tumeez: you'd like to factory reset your device? | 19:24 |
| Tumeez | No, it's work now when I release and put battery again in device :D | 19:24 |
| Pnuu | Yaniel: yup, it's Inari sami lang | 19:25 |
| Yaniel | hmm the app icons in got shuffled around | 19:25 |
| Yaniel | and still not .txt support in documents :( | 19:25 |
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| edgars | yyyyo | 19:38 |
| edgars | i have a strange problem with alarm | 19:38 |
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| edgars | when i set and when save, i see different time | 19:39 |
| edgars | difference is in +1 hour | 19:40 |
| cvp | os 1.0.1.10 oder 1.0.2.5 ? | 19:40 |
| edgars | .12 | 19:40 |
| cvp | sry i mean 12 | 19:40 |
| cvp | than update to 2.5 | 19:40 |
| edgars | there is a new update? | 19:40 |
| cvp | but it will take some hours because there release it few hour befor | 19:41 |
| edgars | ? | 19:41 |
| cvp | and the store is overloaded | 19:41 |
| edgars | ouu, i see | 19:41 |
| edgars | overloaded with 450users? :) | 19:41 |
| Yaniel | there are at least thousands more now | 19:41 |
| cvp | 450 ? | 19:41 |
| cvp | there tousend of devices in europe ;) | 19:42 |
| edgars | already? :) | 19:42 |
| cvp | jap :D | 19:42 |
| edgars | nice | 19:42 |
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| cvp | but the update dont have again mark all mails as read :( thats S*cks.... is it not possible to do that over a terminal command ? | 19:44 |
| edgars | now we need a thousands of apps in the store :) | 19:44 |
| cvp | yeah some new apps are out like MeePassword, Cutespotify, What´s Up, Emu Master, | 19:46 |
| edgars | cvp, is it bugfix update or some new features too? | 19:47 |
| edgars | whats app is ported? | 19:47 |
| Tumeez | edgars https://together.jolla.com/question/3612/release-notes-software-update-2-1025/ | 19:48 |
| cvp | yes but not with full feature, biut it works fine | 19:48 |
| edgars | Tumeez: thanks | 19:48 |
| cvp | Mitakuuluu is it named | 19:49 |
| cvp | @https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu | 19:49 |
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| Yaniel | http://imgur.com/Pf82Sgi -- as per request: fingerterm featuring some awful font rendering | 19:52 |
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| cvp | nice | 19:55 |
| Yaniel | note the capital M | 19:56 |
| cvp | i wich that i can programming to help :( | 19:56 |
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| leszek | hi | 19:57 |
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| cvp | witam leszek :D | 19:57 |
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| edgars | cvp: hmm | 20:03 |
| cvp | ? | 20:03 |
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| edgars | any qrscanner | 20:21 |
| edgars | :) | 20:21 |
| leszek | not of that I know currently | 20:22 |
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| edgars | rpms i can install only from console? | 20:27 |
| ln- | pkcon install-local or something like that | 20:28 |
| leszek | there is a filemanager in the store which claims to be able to install rpms also but I never tried that | 20:29 |
| leszek | and I guess you need dev mode activated for this | 20:29 |
| edgars | i see | 20:30 |
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| Pnuu | edgars: for phone usage stuff there's #jollamobile, which might be better choice :-) | 20:32 |
| leszek | hmm... WebView documentation shows me settings.defaultFontSize but running it on the phone gives me : Cannot assign to non-existent property "settings" . How can I set the default font size of WebView ? | 20:36 |
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| edgars | Pnuu: :)) | 20:49 |
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| cvp | edgars, i tols you that you can install over file browser from jolla store | 20:58 |
| eeko | is there a qr code reader for sailfish? | 21:00 |
| Pnuu | eeko: no native ones | 21:01 |
| Pnuu | eeko: check https://together.jolla.com/question/2221/qr-code-reader/ | 21:02 |
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| coderus | leszek: i never saw WebView can change font size | 21:31 |
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| leszek | coderus in qtcreator hit f1 on webview and it written in the documentation | 21:35 |
| leszek | but unfortunately it does not work | 21:35 |
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| rcg | what would be the wayland equivalent to X11/extensions/XTest.h ? | 22:53 |
| rcg | essentially, i want to send keystrokes to apps | 22:54 |
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| Jonni | rcg: unfortunately there are no equivelants yet afaik. | 23:18 |
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| rcg | Jonni, oh my | 23:25 |
| kontio | it's hard for wayland to catch up with all features in 3yrs X11 built up in 30 yrs... :-) | 23:27 |
| rcg | hehe, sure | 23:28 |
| rcg | i just thought that this was pretty basic functionality | 23:28 |
| rcg | but that may be a misconception i have ;) | 23:28 |
| kontio | :) | 23:29 |
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| szopin | anyone else having problem sshing in to device after 1.0.2.5? | 23:46 |
| szopin | ps aux | grep sshd shows nothing, same after reboot | 23:46 |
| valdur55 | so . sshd is not listed in systemd | 23:47 |
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| valdur55 | random shoot: reinstall openssh-server package | 23:48 |
| szopin | not sure, it lost my set password (setting second time, but not sure what is the expected result seems to hang with Save greyed out) | 23:48 |
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| szopin | disabling/enabling dev mode resulted in having sshd process... still can't log in though | 23:51 |
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| rcg | szopin, sorry, i can only say that it works here | 23:55 |
| szopin | after disconnect/reconnect it works now, thanks | 23:55 |
| rcg | great :) | 23:55 |
| szopin | does anybody know what is responsible for sleeping all processes on screen timeout? | 23:56 |
| szopin | is it a process which one could kill to have a working box in pocket rather than brick? | 23:56 |
| szopin | or is niceing each proces that could maybe want to run during screen-off time the only way? | 23:57 |
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