Tuesday, 2013-12-31

jpnurmiexcuse the typos. it's getting late :)00:00
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raa70soon it'll be early00:01
mfulznp I'll give it a try00:01
mfulzthank you really for the help !00:01
jpnurminp, it sounded like an interesting problem :)00:02
mfulzdo I need to put Q_DECL inside a class or just into the header?00:03
jpnurmioutside the class declaration in the header00:03
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mfulzworking - you're my hero !00:10
jpnurmihehe, finally :)00:11
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mfulzqRegisterMetatype is even more convenient :)00:19
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mfulzbut for using that I still need to derive from QOject?00:25
jpnurmiit should work even if you remove the QObject inheritance and replace Q_OBJECT with Q_GADGET, but you must keep Q_ENUMS()00:26
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Andy80how do I generate an .rpm from a project? At the moment I'm only able to deploy with binary copy... any other method fails :/00:31
mfulzstrange I did the same for my last enum and it's not working there ....00:32
Andy80every time I get this: Project ERROR: Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. Timeout waiting for reply from server.00:33
Andy80but connection to Mer SDK work normally when it has to compile the binary and then copy the binary to the device00:33
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mfulzfinally :D00:41
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Andy80anyone knows how to set an icon for the application?01:10
sjtoikread about the desktop file01:13
Andy80sjtoik: a file like this is enough https://github.com/Elleo/cutespotify/blob/sailfish/harbour-cutespotify.desktop ?01:14
sjtoikmight, but I would put full path to the icon file01:15
ElleoI seem to remember seeing somewhere that the harbour QA scripts reject full pathnames in .desktop files01:17
Elleowhich is why I changed it for cutespotify01:17
Andy80Elleo: I was taking example from your :)01:18
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Andy80p.s: a very preliminary release of SailSoma is ready if anyone want to test it01:18
sjtoiksoma as in soma.fm?01:18
Andy80sjtoik: yes01:20
Andy80uff... the icon appears as blank on the device :/01:21
ElleoAndy80: did you install it to /usr/share/icons/hicolor/86x86/apps/ ?01:23
Elleoif you used an earlier version of the SDK template it might have incorrectly defaulted to 90x9001:23
Andy80I just modified the .desktop01:24
ElleoAndy80: as part of your .pro file typically01:24
Andy80no wait wait...01:24
Andy80I just copied a 500x500 version that I've to the root of the project and renamed it to sailsoma.png01:24
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Andy80then I've put this in my .desktop: Icon=sailsoma01:24
ElleoAndy80: you need a section in your .pro handling installation of that file to /usr/share/icons/hicolor/86x86/apps/01:25
Elleojust like you've got a section installing the .desktop to /usr/share/applications/01:25
Elleoplus you might want to resize it to 86x86 (although it will probably display anyway)01:25
Andy80Elleo: you don't have it https://github.com/Elleo/cutespotify/blob/sailfish/CuteSpotify.pro01:25
mfulzhow can I call a nested class method in qml? c++: MyClass { MyNestedClass *bla; } | qml: MyClass.bla.method();01:26
ElleoAndy80: yeah, it's in a different file: https://github.com/Elleo/cutespotify/blob/sailfish/src/src.pro01:26
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Andy80Elleo: how can you have two .pro?01:26
ElleoAndy80: the top level one is setup with the subdirs template01:26
Elleoyou tell it what subdirectories there are and it automatically includes any .pro files inside them01:27
Andy80it's getting a bit complicated :/01:27
Elleoyou don't have to do01:27
Elleoyou don't have to do that*01:27
Elleoyou just need to add a small bit to the INSTALLS section of your current .pro file01:28
Andy80desktop.path = $$PREFIX/share/applications/01:28
Andy80desktop.files = ../harbour-cutespotify.desktop01:28
Andy80icon.path = $$PREFIX/share/icons/hicolor/86x86/apps/01:28
Andy80icon.files = ../harbour-cutespotify.png01:28
Andy80let's try01:28
Elleoalthough if you're using the sailfish app template I think it might do some of that automatically for you01:28
Elleoalso the INSTALLS += icon01:29
Elleoand I've explicitly setup $$PREFIX in mine, so you might want to replace that with just "/usr/"01:29
ElleoAndy80: are you using the sailfishapp tempalte?01:30
Elleoif so it should handle the icon for you as long as its included in the project files and has the correct name01:30
Andy80yes... I started from that one... then I modified01:30
Andy80I'm trying with these lined anyway01:30
Elleoactually it might just do the .desktop automatically01:31
Elleoclearly the .desktop is being installed okay if it's showing up on the launcher, so I wouldn't worry about the desktop.path/desktop.files lines01:31
Andy80anyway I didn't have any INSTALLS in my .pro01:32
Andy80do I have to add it?01:32
Elleoyeah, "INSTALLS += icon"01:32
Elleoif you've got CONFIG += sailfishapp then you've already got some INSTALLS setup from that01:33
Elleoso you just want to add another item to them01:33
Andy80err... I don't have a CONFIG += either01:33
Andy80why the initial template doesn't add this stuff?01:34
Elleothat is part of the initial sailfishapp template normally01:34
Elleocould you pastebin your .pro so I can have a peek?01:34
Andy80oh wait wait01:34
Andy80it's in sailfisapplication.pr01:34
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Elleoah right, yeah, it'll be including that then01:35
Elleoso that should all be fine01:35
Andy80cool :) let's try the build01:35
Elleoand you just need to add your icon stuff to the INSTALLS01:35
Andy80as I already wrote, the build rpm and deploy doesn't work on my machine...01:36
Andy80but at least the rpm is generated01:36
Andy80then I've to send it by mail to my device -.-01:36
ElleoI'm not sure if deploying to the device directly is supported yet, only to the emulator01:37
ElleoAndy80: you can setup ssh access if you add a password in the developer mode section of the settings page, which makes it easy to just scp stuff over and install from the command line ("pkcon install-local yourfile.rpm")01:38
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Andy80yahooo the icon is there :)01:38
Andy80one second and I upload my rpm somewhere01:39
Andy80first I want to commit last bits01:39
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Andy80Elleo: enjoy https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/835341/sailsoma/SailSoma-0.1.1-1.armv7hl.rpm :)01:41
Andy80source code available here https://github.com/andreagrandi/sailsoma01:41
Andy80nothing special, not finished yet, but... consider that it's been half day work :)01:42
Andy80it's been easier then when I ported this to BB1001:42
ElleoAndy80: nice :)01:42
ElleoAndy80: one thing, you're going to have to change package names and some paths before submitting to the store01:42
Elleoeverything has to be in the form harbour-sailsoma01:43
Elleohttps://harbour.jolla.com/faq <-- has details01:43
Andy80I will do... but there are still some changes before I can submit01:43
Elleolooking good though01:43
Andy80oh wait.... package name?01:43
Andy80don't tell me I can't use "sail" ?01:44
Elleo"The package name cannot start with jolla or sailfish"01:45
Elleoso just "sail" might be okay01:45
Elleothat said it's also being prefixed with harbour- anyway01:45
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Elleoso I suspect you're alright with harbour-sailsoma01:45
Andy80let's hope :)01:45
Elleoand user readable title of "SailSoma"01:45
Andy80I think it's almost bed time now :)01:48
Andy80p.s: we should start a "Jolla Club" in London when I come back :D01:48
ElleoAndy80: hehe, totally01:49
Andy80even @anidel (on Twitter) has one (he lives in London too)01:50
Andy80bye for now :) good night! and thank you so much for the help!01:51
Elleonight :) and you're welcome :)01:51
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mfulzdoes someone know how I can set the selected item of a combobox?02:22
mfulzcombobox.currentItem = 1 is not working02:22
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mfulzdoes someone know the behavior when passing back a enum from c++ like MyEnum get() { return m_myenum; } in qml always get a QVariant(MyEnum) and cant access the value?02:45
mfulzok this behavior popps up only if using a Q_PROPERTY02:50
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RuslanPullDownMenu doesn't work if SilicaListView's orientation is horizontal08:31
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tango_Ruslan: hm it does for me?08:44
tango_Ruslan: I have noticed stuff not working re. orientation if I launch the app from the command line while the phone is locked08:45
Ruslantango_: I mean that View's 'orientation' property is set to Qt.Horizontal08:50
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Ruslanputting ListView inside Flickable solves the issue08:52
Ruslanlooks like QQuickPaintedItem is extremly slow (08:53
Ruslanwhat is a best way to render text with formatting, hyphentations and inlined images?08:54
tango_Ruslan: hyphenations I have no idea08:57
tango_inlined images and formatting a Text or Label would do08:57
tango_I was just reading this http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtgui/richtext-html-subset.html08:57
Ruslantango_: they makes no possible to calc text borders from c++ code08:59
Ruslani.e. to calculate total pages count in book08:59
Ruslanmay be I have to study QQuickText's code09:00
tango_a whole book?09:01
tango_you might want to look into qtwebkit09:01
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cos-hmm.. how do i get ^ from virtual keyboard?09:13
cos-pro tip: don't use ^ in any username you need on mobile devices :-)09:14
Ruslantango_: isn't it too heavy, what's about the memory consumption?09:23
tango_no idea09:23
tango_but considering what you want to do (an ebook reader kind of thing?) it sounds more appropriate than reinventing the wheel09:24
tango_just that09:24
Ruslanlooks like it's possible to convert QGlyphRun to QSGGlyphNode somehow09:24
Ruslanand it will lead to better perfomance09:24
Ruslantango_: currently I'm using QTextLayout for layouting of the text09:25
hoelzrocan you change the USB mode after you've answered the initial prompt? or do you have to unplug/replug the cable?09:27
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w00tthmm... borked my simulator somehow:10:16
w00ttbash: /opt/sdk/bitcoined/usr/bin/test: No such file or directory10:16
w00ttwhenever I try to run it on similator.10:16
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matoking@w00tt What does that bitcoined stand for, some project you are working on?10:29
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jake9xxw00tt: either file is not there is made with wrong arch10:31
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tango_where does the image://theme uri path for theme images come from and where I can find more information about these paths?10:33
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jake9xxtango_: atm : source. To get precise documentation ; plase do a post in together.jolla.com and tag it with sdk10:36
w00tthmm.. this started happening suddenly. Removed x86 kit and created it again. No help.10:36
w00ttmy .pro file is just simple one and yaml file seems ok.10:37
jake9xxcan you ssh into the emulator and do file /opt/sdk/bitcoined/usr/bin/test ?10:37
jake9xxpropably the binary name is 'bitcoined' not 'test' ?10:38
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w00ttjake9xx: yes, copy-paste error: bash: /opt/sdk/bitcoined/usr/bin/bitcoined: No such file or directory10:39
w00ttI get this with rsync deploy method, if I use deploy by RPM then everything works.10:39
w00ttshould it be /opt/sdk/ anyway?10:39
kaltsiif you choose 'deploy as binaries' it copies them under /opt/sdk .. if you choose deploy as rpm then it installs an rpm which copies stuff under /usr/bin10:41
w00ttproblem solved...10:42
w00ttmy TARGET in pro file is all lowercase while deploy seems to create /opt/sdk/Bitcoined directory structure.10:42
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wickwireHi guys, is there some tweaking available for speeding up the emulator...?10:43
w00ttbug or feature but it seems that you need to have the TARGET spelled with capital first letter.10:43
wickwireI'm using an intel i5 with 6GB RAM10:44
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w00ttwickwire: yes, use Linux :) I'm running on old Intel Core 2 Duo here.10:46
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lbtw00tt: no - TARGET can be all lowercase10:46
Nicd-my laptop doesn't have enough memory to run the emulator, I have to deploy to device every time... :P10:46
tango_jake9xx: like this? https://together.jolla.com/question/7552/uri-schemes-and-default-paths-to-access-resources-in-qtqml-applications/10:46
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lbtand in fact it should be harbour-bitcoined if you want it in store10:46
w00ttlbt: Does not seem to work. It tries to run the app from /opt/sdk/Capital/...10:47
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lbtw00tt: check the .pro file10:47
w00ttlbt: TARGET=bitcoined10:47
lbtQtC doesn't link everything to TARGET10:47
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w00ttbut it deploys it to /usr/sdk/Bitcoined/...10:47
lbtso some paths are hardcoded - also check the yaml10:47
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w00ttlbt: Aha, yaml has Name: Bitcoined10:49
lbtw00tt: yeah - should be modified when TARGET is modified (I think)10:50
lbtthe problem is that much of this is created when you use a template10:50
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lbtand honestly the number of times people rename their code - it's probably better use of time to just document how to do it than waste SDK dev time automating it10:51
w00ttlbt: hmm.. although yaml is used to create spec and spec for the rpm. If I deploy using rsync then I think only pro file and Makefile are used.10:51
lbtit runs make install and then the rpm install using rpmbuild10:51
lbtthen it rsyncs that10:52
lbtit ensures that the rpm install section matches and no nasty surprises10:52
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w00ttare you saying I'm creating rpm package even with copy binaries deploy?10:52
Ruslanlbt: I had some errors in rpmspec, and I've not noticed them until tried 'deploy by rpm package' which leaded to some critical errors10:52
lbtno - you're running the rpmbuild install section10:52
w00ttah, ok10:52
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lbtbut not the rpmbuild 'cpio into rpm' section10:52
lbtRuslan: really - what were they ?10:53
w00ttanyway, seems that it insists on deploying to /usr/sdk/Bitcoined and if my target name is all lowercase it tries to run it from /usr/sdk/bitcoined and fails10:53
lbtchange the yaml and it should work10:53
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softmetzhi. release.sailfishos.org gives me http 403 forbidden. is that intentionally?10:54
w00ttlbt: didn't help... Name is yaml is now lowercase too. Still it deploys to /usr/sdk/Bitcoined10:54
w00ttlbt: would this be the reason why the SDK template creates every file capitalized? Like Capital.desktop, Capital.pro etc.10:55
kaltsiit doesn't create them capitalized unless you have named the project capitalized10:55
kaltsithe default is 'untitled' which is lower case as are all the files10:56
w00ttkaltsi: ok10:57
kaltsiw00tt: on top of the template projet's projectname.pro file is a comment section that lists files that need to be changed if you change the TARGET .. can you review those in your project?10:57
lbtkaltsi: ooh - I missed that10:58
* lbt slaps lbt10:58
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jake9xxsoftmetz: releases..10:59
w00ttkaltsi: I have absolutely everything lowercase but when deploying to emulator it creates /opt/sdk/Bitcoined instead of /opt/sdk/bitcoined and fails to run the binary11:00
w00ttmost importantly my TARGET=bitcoined and yaml file Name: bitcoined11:00
softmetzjake9xx: yes, mistyped the url. I get forbidden on releaseS11:01
Nicd-w00tt: is your spec file updated?11:01
softmetzjake9xx: clicked oon the links on the sdk pages, dead11:01
kaltsiw00tt: ok.. strange, well I'm pretty sure there is something "Bitcoined" in your project dir.. it does not automatically capitalize things11:01
fk_lxlbt: don't publicly hurt yourself, kids are watching11:01
jake9xxsoftmetz: which link?11:01
kaltsiw00tt: if you do 'grep -r Bitcoined your_projectdir' do you find any hits?11:01
kaltsiw00tt: linux/mac/windows?11:01
softmetzjake9xx: see https://sailfishos.org/develop-overview-article.html, end of page. there are "platform apis" and "open source code" that link to http://releases.sailfishos.org/sdk/11:02
jake9xxsoftmetz: http://releases.sailfishos.org/sdk/latest/ works just fine.. but the html might have old link11:03
w00ttkaltsi: damn... I had an old spec file with Capital project name..11:03
w00ttrm that and new one with correct name was created.11:03
kaltsiw00tt: ok.. strange, that should be updated when you modify and save the yaml file11:03
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w00ttkaltsi: even stranger was the fact that the spec was named as Bitcoined.spec while I had renamed the yaml as bitcoined.yaml. It had obsolete information in it.11:04
kaltsiw00tt: what's your environment? could it have a non case sensitive filesystem like OSX has by default?11:05
w00ttmaybe SDK tries to find *.spec and is happy if there is one?11:05
w00ttkaltsi: nope, Ubuntu here.11:05
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softmetzjake9xx: great. thanks. will raise an issue on together...11:05
John24hello everyone :)11:05
John24once again I got a QML question whihc I just can't find on google11:05
jake9xxsoftmetz: be quick ; we might fix it before that :)11:05
John24I am using a textfield11:06
kaltsiw00tt: the sdk build checks if yaml is newer than spec and if so then it recreates the spec.. but maybe this is a special case, I'll have to test that11:06
w00ttkaltsi: the problem started when I renamed all the capitalized files to lowercase. Forgot to delete the spec file though and SDK did not manage to create me new one.11:06
kaltsiw00tt: ok.. I'll try that too11:06
John24and I want to use the enter button as described on sailfish SDK documentation to focus on next textfield11:06
softmetzjake9xx: you've got write access? want me too or should be fixed without anybody noting? ;)11:06
John24 EnterKey.onClicked: email.focus = true11:06
w00ttso I was left with old and Capitalized spec file. No new file was ever generated and the old one was not updated even if I did pro changes.11:06
softmetzjake9xx: want me to (raise issue)...11:07
John24BUT I can't find the  EnterKey element11:07
kaltsiw00tt: yep thanks, I'll test that case next year :)11:07
w00ttkaltsi: Of course I did close / reopen the project and also wiped the shadow build dirs. No help. Once I manually deleted the old spec all went ok.11:07
w00ttanyway, help appreciated!11:08
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jake9xxw00tt: you might wanna do a post of that in together.jolla.com and tag it with 'sdk'11:09
John24essentially I can't find how to get the EnterKey from this example: http://pastebin.com/ADfYU7Hm anyone got any ideas?11:10
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softmetzjake9xx: https://together.jolla.com/question/7568/sdk-overview-links-to-dead-page-on-releasessailfishosorg/11:11
Ruslanoh, https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-31683 - QQuickTextNode is private :(11:11
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Morpog_PCcoderus, do you want the mitäkuuluu icon with vertical gradient?11:33
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tango_is it just me or long presses don't trigger a click?11:35
cos-has anyone found a working geocaching app? c:geo crashes when displaying map11:36
tango_is there another onThing that is triggered on long presses? or just onPressAndHold ?11:36
Morpog_PCSfiet_Konstantin, seen the updated PR?11:36
Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_PC: ah no11:36
Sfiet_Konstantinwill look at it11:37
Sfiet_Konstantinafterwards, first release to harbour !11:37
Morpog_PCharbour release without icon?11:37
Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_PC: looks good11:37
Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_PC: no, will soon merge your PR :)11:37
Morpog_PCI can see the comments in store already :D11:38
Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_PC: looks good, but but but, reduce "friend" just a little bit11:38
Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_PC: ??11:38
kaltsisoftmetz: webpage updated.. can't answer in together.j.c because I can't log in there right now, grgrmg11:38
Morpog_PCphew, finally, lol :D11:39
Morpog_PCthe smalelr one?11:42
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Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_PC: yes :)11:46
Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_PC: thanks Morpog_PC11:46
Morpog_PCSfiet_Konstantin, like that? http://abload.de/img/harbour-friends4b7sgj.png11:50
softmetzkaltsi: thanks.11:50
Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_PC: perfect <311:50
Sfiet_Konstantinlooks good11:50
Morpog_PCok, will update PR then11:56
Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_PC: I'm adding you in the list of developers :)12:00
Venemo___Morpog_PC ping12:02
Morpog_PCcool, thx :D12:03
Morpog_PCPR updated12:03
Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_PC: :)12:03
Morpog_PCVenemo___, pong12:05
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Venemo___Could you please send me the IRC icon you once designed?12:07
Venemo___I can't find it anywhere12:07
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Morpog_PCsure I can, but how about a new one in Sailfish style? :D12:08
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Morpog_PCand SVG this time12:09
Venemo___Thank you :) I'd be happy for both12:09
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tango_why is it that in pageStack.push() I cannot use a component name directly?12:18
tango_e.g. I am in a component in qml/pages and I would like to pageStack.push(someOtherComponent) where qml/pages/someOtherComponent.qml exists12:18
kaltsiw00tt: I made a quick test by creating an Uppercase project, and used deploy as rpm (to get the Uppercase.spec file) .. then in yaml I changed the Name to lowercase and tried to build it again.. I get an error: Fatal: Too many spec files - please use -s to identify which to use12:22
kaltsiw00tt: for me there were two specs.. Uppercase.spec and uppercase.spec12:23
w00ttkaltsi: I didn't get that as I only had the uppercased spec file there.12:25
matokingOkay I found out that Row seems to be the best fit for doing my file manager12:25
w00ttwell, it doesn't need to be a bug. Sometimes even Makefiles fail when renaming stuff.12:25
kaltsiw00tt: yeah.. just wondering how it happened for you12:25
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Morpog_PCVenemo___, how about this? http://abload.de/img/harbour-irc-chatterd1sr2.png12:27
Venemo___It's great! :)12:28
Venemo___Can you send it to me in email along with the other one you designed a while ago?12:29
w00ttkaltsi: I'm facing the exact problem right now... renamed my project to harbour-bitcoined and seems to deploy still to /usr/sdk/bitcoined ...12:29
kaltsiw00tt: how do you rename it exactly?12:29
Morpog_PCif it's OK, I can give you the SVG too12:30
Morpog_PCbbl, need to cook12:30
w00ttTARGET=harbour-bitcoined yaml Name: harbour-bitcoined and spec Name: harbour-bitcoined.12:30
kaltsijust touched those?12:30
w00ttbasically closed project and did some git mv on command line.12:30
w00ttalso changed the file contents first, opened Qt Creator and everything seems ok BUT it deploys to /usr/sdk/bitcoined still12:31
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w00ttI'll try to rm the spec file once again, rm build dir and then reopen.12:32
kaltsihow about the desktop. and icon etc12:32
w00ttharbour-bitcoined.desktop also renamed the icon to harbour-bitcoined.png12:32
kaltsiif you can give me step-by-step instructions on how to reproduce this starting from a default "untitled" project, I'd be happy :)12:33
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w00tt:) eh...12:34
w00ttkaltsi: Argh... even removed the .pro.user and reconfigured everything from scratch. --> bash: /opt/sdk/bitcoined/usr/bin/harbour-bitcoined: No such file or directory12:35
kaltsiit would be useful to know to see if we can do something to fix this or do something to help people rename projects12:35
w00ttwhat about the actual name of the .pro file?12:35
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w00ttkaltsi: thats it!12:37
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kaltsipro file name also has to change?12:38
w00ttI had my pro file named as bitcoined.pro12:38
w00ttnow when I renamed it to harbour-bitcoined.pro and rebuilt it all works.12:38
w00ttkaltsi: I'm not 100% sure but check that. Does the name of the .pro file have to match with the other name.s12:39
Venemo___Thank you Morpog_PC :)12:39
w00ttkaltsi: that's the problem. SDK has dependency to project file name which it should not have.12:41
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w00ttrsync deploy makes a directory /opt/sdk/PRO_FILE_NAME/... on emulator.12:41
kaltsi"created directory /opt/sdk/untitled-kala" .. my .pro file is still untitled.pro12:42
Venemo___w00t the name of the project file doesn't matter12:42
Venemo___At least I would've screamed loudly if it did12:43
w00ttI just closed the project from Qt Creator, went command line, renamed my project file to harbour-bitcoined2 and now I get:12:43
w00tVenemo___: wrong w00t ;)12:43
w00ttbash: /opt/sdk/harbour-bitcoined2/usr/bin/harbour-bitcoined: No such file or directory12:43
* w00t bops w00tt for nickname thievery12:44
Venemo___OMG there's two of you now?12:44
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wellumakinensorry about thievery ;)12:44
w00twellumakinen: it doesn't bother me really :P12:45
* w00t was just joking around12:45
Venemo___Anyway, when I did puzzle-master I didn't have to rename the pro file12:45
kaltsiyeah the name of the pro file is not the issue12:45
Venemo___I only changed the TARGET variable and INSTALLS12:45
Venemo___Can give you a link if you want to see12:46
jpnurmii have faced the deployment problem with non-matching pro/target/yaml names. not sure what the exact problem was but everything works fine when they match :)12:47
wellumakinenguys, I can repro the problem here just fine. Close a project, rename the actual filename or the project to something else, open that project, configure target and press Run. --> FAIL12:48
kaltsithe qt creator Run target does not get updated when you're changing the paths12:49
kaltsiif you go to the "Projects" tab in qtcreator.. and see the 'Run' executable there.. it still shows the old '/opt/sdk/untitled' instead of /opt/sdk/untitled-kala' for me12:49
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wellumakinenkaltsi: it takes the target based on the FILENAME of the .pro12:51
kaltsiwellumakinen: no12:51
kaltsiwellumakinen: that was already established12:51
wellumakinenbash: /opt/sdk/thiswentberserk/usr/bin/harbour-bitcoined: No such file or directory12:51
wellumakinen1. Close project12:51
wellumakinen2. Rename the project file to something else12:52
wellumakinen3. Open up the project file12:52
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wellumakinen4. Rebuild and Run12:52
wellumakinen5. -> FAIL12:52
wellumakinenI see the actual project filename on the Projects->Run settings page.12:52
kaltsilooks like qt creator does not let me rename the pro file .. so it's probably a bad idea12:53
wellumakinenkaltsi: No, close the project first.12:53
kaltsiwellumakinen: I understand, but I'm trying to look at it from qtc point of view :)12:53
wellumakinenthe problem is that Qt Creator assumes the executable path on emulator has something to do with the actual project filename.12:53
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wellumakinenQtC should assume something based on TARGET or yaml/spec Filename but not take assumptions based on the filename of the .pro12:54
wellumakinenso if the project file is named thiswentberserk.pro then QtC assumes the binary is in /usr/sdk/thiswentberserk/usr/bin/TARGET12:56
wellumakinenso you actually have both the .pro filename + TARGET appended to make up the path.12:56
wellumakinenit seems to be /usr/sdk/PRO_FILENAME/usr/bin/TARGET12:57
kaltsiwellumakinen: yes you are right.. this case seems to hit only with the deploy as binaries.. it works with deploy as rpm even if the .pro filename is not changed12:59
kaltsiok.. something to fix next year then :)12:59
wellumakinenkaltsi: true12:59
wellumakinenanyway, I think the problem was pinpointed. I've had this "renaming hell" couple of times in the past, with different projects, platforms and IDEs13:00
kaltsithanks for troubleshooting!13:00
wellumakinenYou're welcome!13:01
wellumakinenthis hit me when I tried to keep the harbour prefix out of my .pro file.13:01
kaltsiI've scribbled this to my notebook, will take a look at it later13:01
kaltsiok.. I'm out, happy new year everyone13:06
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Andy80do you know where I can find some documentation about how to interact with the app cover? the docs included in QtCreator don't show much :/13:12
coderusi think example application creates good app with cover13:14
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Andy80coderus: I'm looking at it, but I don't know how to interact with it... for example how to change the image and the text at least, etc...13:19
Andy80lbt: thanks!13:19
* tango_ goes nuts over OpacityRampEffect13:20
wellumakinen'till 2014!13:20
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lbtAndy80: haha ... wait until I get my next app into the store :)13:22
Andy80lbt: this is what I need https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-coverplaceholder.html13:22
Andy80lbt: but once set I don't know how to change it from inside the other pages :)13:22
lbtbind properties13:23
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Andy80what do you mean?13:23
lbtmake a cover which has an id then you can access it via that13:26
Andy80ok, I try...13:26
Andy80(I'm not very good with QML stuff yet :P )13:26
Morpog_PCcoderus, updated mitäkuuluu icon with vertical gradient, 86x86, 256x256, 512x512 PNG's and in SVG: https://db.tt/L4upc2zt13:34
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tango_is there a way to debug item boxes in qml?13:35
tango_I want to see what the bounding boxes are for a series of labels13:36
tango_do I have to wrap them in rectagles or is there a smarter way?13:36
Morpog_PCVenemo___, irc-chatter icon in 86x86, 256x256, 512x512 PNG's and as SVG: https://db.tt/v7qwucMb13:37
Andy80lbt: do you know what is the suggested dimension for the cover icon? I'm trying to guess the value but I cannot find it documented13:40
Venemo___Morpog, great, thank you13:40
Morpog_PCcoderus, ah just seen your reply on TMO13:40
Venemo___Morpog, I can't download it... Could you send to venemo at msn.com instead?13:42
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Andy80Morpog_PC: do you volunteer for better app icons :) ?13:45
Andy80lbt: btw, I've assigned an id to my coverbackground and also to my coverplaceholder, but I cannot access it from another page.. maybe I'm missing something13:46
tango_ids don't work that way13:47
Morpog_PCcoderus, this should look like your remastered version I guess: http://abload.de/img/harbour-mitkuuluu-vers7s2u.png13:50
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Andy80and another question for everyone, I'm getting this warning: DeclarativeCoverWindow: You should be calling QQuickWindow::setDefaultAlphaBuffer(true) before creating windows. Failing to do so will result in suboptimal performance.13:54
Morpog_PCVenemo___, sure13:54
Andy80what I don't understand is where I do have to set it... maybe in the main.cpp ?13:54
Venemo___Thank you Morpog_PC :)13:56
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rohey all13:57
Morpog_PCso feel free to use coderus, solidgreen version: https://db.tt/09bstj1O13:58
matokingAdded some SmoothedAnimation objects and the page transitions are starting to look really good :)13:58
Morpog_PCwell, I have fun doing it :)14:01
matokingNow, if I could invoke functions based on whether the user is flicking left or right14:01
matokingit would work like the PageStack except that it's more expendable14:01
rocan anyone explain how to install the qtmultimediakit in the sdk... I have tried looking for it in the control center but when I search, I can't find it... what package should I be installing?14:01
Andy80ouch... I just noticed that the Sailfish application template that I'm using is very different from the one that the current SDK generates...14:02
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cos-is it possible to disable sounds for facebook notifications?14:12
cos-they are a bit annoying during night14:12
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tango_cos-: go offline on facebook at night?14:32
Pnuuand never go online again \o/14:32
cos-tango_: that is a workaround, not solution :-)14:33
tango_actually, just log out of facebook forever14:34
tango_even better14:34
Pnuutango_: +114:34
cos-and miss all the parties?14:34
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tango_parties? which parties?14:35
tango_let's talk about icons14:36
tango_png or svg?14:37
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narchieis there a way to use the round clock/timer component?14:40
narchieI'm on the go so I can't research but was.wondering14:40
narchieit would be neat to use in an app14:41
tango_the rich text controls in qt5 are odd. if I have a string "<p>\nsome text\n<p>\nsome other text" I get an empty line at the beginning14:43
tango_does it obey newlines even in richtext mode?14:43
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narchiePnuu: I meant the one used in for example timers in the clock app14:47
narchiethough thats useful too for me, thanks14:47
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Pnuunarchie: ah, ok :-)14:47
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Andy80damn it15:09
Andy80I've changed my app name to follow harbour-* name spec15:09
Andy80and now my rpm is not built anymore :/15:09
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Andy80and I'm also getting a clock skew error15:12
coderusAndy80: you need to change all files15:12
Andy80coderus: which files?15:13
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Andy80coderus: which other I mean15:13
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Andy80coderus: I changed the .pro, .desktop, renamed the icon, changed the .yaml15:13
coderuspro, rpm/yaml rpm/spec, remove Makefile's (if exists) rename desktop and icon files15:13
Andy80coderus: I did it15:13
coderusso, what is error?15:13
Andy80apart removing the Makefile15:14
coderus is there any harbour-allowed vibration method in sailfish?15:14
Andy80let me try again...15:14
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Andy80do I have to rename also the .yaml file or the important part is the Name: section of it?15:15
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Andy80coderus: the warning I get is this: :-1: warning: File `Makefile' has modification time 2.1 s in the future15:16
coderusyou need to rename spec and yaml too15:16
Andy80coderus: and the .rpm is not generated15:16
coderusyou also renamed pro file?15:17
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celeron55i am trying to port a rather complex application onto sailfish and now the first obscure issue i stumbled upon is that it needs zlib and the build can't find zlib (i have no idea how the SDK even figured out it should link to zlib, but i assume it's some kind of intentional magic and it indeed does require zlib)15:17
celeron55so, uh, how is this supposed to work15:17
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Andy80coderus: no I didn't rename the .pro, the FAQ doesn't say to do it15:18
Andy80coderus: also... the .spec is autogenerated, can I just delete it?15:18
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Andy80coderus: I've tried again... the application is compiled in the build directory: build-SailSoma-MerSDK_SailfishOS_armv7hl-Release15:22
Andy80coderus: but the rpms/ folder inside it is empty15:22
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celeron55this sdk is so obscure 8| why can't these be simple15:28
Tumeezcoderus Why new messages doesn't show under Nickname?15:29
Venemoceleron55 +115:29
Venemook, why just +115:29
Venemoceleron55 +31234235458576876536585675628346537615:29
TumeezOnly status update show there15:29
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celeron55but seriously guys, how do i continue15:29
matokingIs there a list of system icons somewhere?15:29
matokingThe ones you see in Settings for example15:30
Andy80celeron55, Venemo to be honest it's more the time I waste making simple things (that should be automated) work than actually coding :/15:30
ElessarI'm trying to install gdb on the device and get this one: Fatal error: Authentication failed (is SSU set up correctly?) what could happen?15:30
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matokingand in case there isn't, is there a free icon library (public domain preferably) that fits in well with Sailfish UI?15:30
celeron55the erro that i can copy is "/srv/mer/targets/SailfishOS-armv7hl/usr/lib/libz.so.1:-1: error: could not read symbols: Invalid", but it also says in some non-copyable text that "File not found: <that file>"15:30
VenemoAndy80: YES, I'm glad someone sees this too15:31
Andy80Venemo: I discovered only today that my app should have been named harbour-* to get accepted in the harbour... now I've changed all the names as/where expected and the SDK doesn't generate rpms anymore15:31
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matoking@Andy80 Try clean and rebuild if you haven't already15:32
matokingWhat errors are you getting?15:32
Venemonah, I think this falls under developer experience15:32
Andy80matoking: I've tried Full Clean multiple times15:32
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Venemoso please go here: https://together.jolla.com/question/7029/idea-developer-experience-dev-device-programs-etc/ UPVOTE and add an answer about SDK obscurity15:32
Andy80matoking: I'm not getting any visible error, it just doesn't build. The build fails somewhere15:32
matoking@Andy80 You should see something in Compile Output15:33
Andy80matoking: first a question: how do you generate the rpms? with Rebuild All or with Deploy All?15:34
khertanHello everybody !15:34
Andy80matoking: with "Requild All" I get this warning: :-1: warning:  Clock skew detected.  Your build may be incomplete.15:34
matoking@Andy80 I just click Run since I do my debugging on a device15:34
matoking@Andy80 What file causes it?15:35
Andy80matoking: yes but what you select in the Deploy option? There are three available15:35
matoking@Andy80 "Deploy as RPM Package"15:36
Andy80ok, I try again15:36
matokingYou could posting the whole Compile Output to Pastebin or similar service15:36
Elessaroh, I've changed domain to 'jolla' somehow15:37
Elessarchanging it back to 'sales' fixes the issue15:37
matoking@Elessar I think that happens when you try enabling the developer repositories15:38
matoking@Elessar through the Developer Mode menu15:38
Andy80matoking: I just got this error: Command failed: A filename to install is required15:38
Andy8016:37:38: The process "/Users/andrea/.config/SailfishAlpha3/mer-sdk-tools/MerSDK/SailfishOS-armv7hl/deploy" exited with code 3.15:38
Andy80Error while building/deploying project SailSoma (kit: MerSDK-SailfishOS-armv7hl)15:38
Andy80When executing step 'Rpm'15:38
Elessarmatoking: I've tried to check what it is, so it may be the reason15:38
matoking@Andy80 Is that all?15:38
Andy80is not the complete, just the last error15:39
Andy80it doesn't print the coplete output15:39
matoking@Andy80 Post the entire compile output to Pastebin and give the link15:39
Andy80matoking: again... if you want I can retry but it doesn't print anything else15:39
matoking@Andy80 except for those three lines?15:40
Andy80matoking: wait, I did it15:41
Andy80matoking: there is a but in QtCReator15:41
matoking@Andy80 What was the problem?15:41
Andy80it cleaned the log every time unless I don't move the mouse pointer in the log while it's writing it15:41
Andy80matoking: now I was able to get the complete log http://pastebin.com/VkQnRXJV15:42
Andy80latest lines don't make any sense at all15:42
Andy80it's stuff of 4-5 hours ago15:42
Andy80you see that is completly wrong15:42
matoking@Andy80 Okay, try cleaning the project, closing Qt Creator and deleting the makefile15:42
matoking@Andy80 After that, try compiling it again15:43
Andy80matoking: I will do it for the 4563784673th time :/15:43
matoking@Andy80 I think it was a known issue that Clean doesn't delete the makefile for some reason15:43
matoking@Andy80 That, or the time Qt Creator is getting is 1.5 seconds ahead in the future15:43
matoking@Andy80 and you've unknowingly created a time machine15:44
Andy80matoking: and is it my fault?15:44
khertando not blame people trying to invent time machine !15:45
matoking@Andy80 Is it your fault or is it not yet your fault?15:45
matokingStarting to get off-topic here :P15:45
Andy80matoking: I've just restarted QtCreator... what do I try now? I click again on Play and see the output?15:45
matoking@Andy80 Try building it as you've done before15:46
Andy80wait... now I've problem with Mer SDK VM too15:47
Andy80I start it bu the button remains gray15:47
Andy80instead of becoming red15:47
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Andy80now green again WTF15:47
Andy80I try to kill vbox15:48
khertangray ... mostly means connecting in progress15:48
Andy80an restart it15:48
Andy80yes, but if it goes back to green it means fail15:48
coderusQt0Feedback. Really? Why Qt0?15:48
Andy80ok, VM restarted15:48
Andy80let's try again15:49
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khertancoderus, is that a lib that 's prevent feedback ? (QtNoneFeedback)15:50
Andy80every time it cleans the build log15:50
Andy80how I'm supposed to copy/paste the error?!15:50
matoking@Andy80 Is your SDK up-to-date?15:50
khertanAndy80, clean or just move the scroll a bit too much ?15:50
Andy80yes it is15:50
Andy802 days ago15:50
Andy80found again15:50
Andy80let me paste it...15:50
Andy80ok... the error now is visible at least: File not found: /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/SailSoma15:51
matokingCould it be that Mer VM has an incorrect system clock or vice versa?15:52
cos-tango_: icons must be png (harbour rule).. i'd prefer svg as on harmattan15:52
cos-..and if you mean icons inside apps, you can't use svg (another harbour rule)15:53
Andy80matoking: I don't know...  my PC has a correct time, how do I check on Mer SDK?15:53
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Andy80it's 15:54 UTC15:54
Andy80it looks fine15:54
khertanAndy80, /usr/lib/rpm/meego/brp-python-hardlink ... that s a python project ?15:55
Andy80khertan: uh?15:55
khertanownNotes 1.2.4 available in OpenRepos.net15:55
matoking@khertan It's something that's executed as a part of build15:55
Andy80matoking: I wonder where it reads that /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/SailSoma15:56
matoking@khertan I get it when I compile my application too15:56
Andy80matoking: my .pri looks fine15:56
Andy80TARGET = harbour-sailsoma15:56
khertanmatoking, oh ... strange to try to bitcompile python file :)15:56
khertanrpm have strange tool15:56
Andy80TARGETPATH = /usr/bin15:56
Andy80target.path = $$TARGETPATH15:56
Andy80DEPLOYMENT_PATH = /usr/share/$$TARGET15:56
Andy80everything looks fine :/15:57
Andy80it should be /usr/share/harbour-sailsoma15:57
Andy80not the one it says15:57
matokingOkay you could do that what I told you before but also delete SailSoma.pro.user in case it isn't deleted as part of clean15:57
Andy80matoking: what did you tell me before exactly? Because I tried to do it if you mean cleaning the project, closing QtCreator and deleting Makefile15:58
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Andy80matoking: I've no Makefile anymore in the source folder... but I can try deleting .user as well15:59
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khertanLook like lupdate isn't available in the Sailfishsdk15:59
Stskeepsit is there16:00
Stskeepsjust .. hidden16:00
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khertanMaster Stskeeps, an advice ?16:02
Andy80ok, I try again to rebuild the project...16:02
Elessarwhy QtCreator can tell that 'Deploy as RPM Package' doesn't support run configuration?16:03
Andy80matoking: again the same error File not found: /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/SailSoma16:04
Andy80wth :/16:04
Andy80how the hell it generates that path16:04
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Andy80Stskeeps: btw Makefile is not hidden... it's just not anymore in the source folder16:06
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Andy80it doesn't make any sense...16:10
Andy80wait wait...16:11
Andy80maybe I've found the problem16:11
Andy80but seriously... these things should be handled by SDK, imho :P16:12
Andy80there was the old dir in the yaml... the new one has been added but the old name was not removed16:13
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Andy80rpm generated!16:14
Andy80I still can't deploy it to the device, using rpms, because I still get this error: Project ERROR: Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. Timeout waiting for reply from server.16:14
Andy8017:13:29: The process "/Users/andrea/.config/SailfishAlpha3/mer-sdk-tools/MerSDK/SailfishOS-armv7hl/deploy" exited with code 1.16:14
Andy80Error while building/deploying project SailSoma (kit: MerSDK-SailfishOS-armv7hl)16:14
Andy80When executing step 'Rpm'16:14
Andy80but at least I can generate the rpms16:14
celeron55is it possible to allocate multiple cores to the virtual machine to speed up compiles?16:16
celeron55or, i guess it is, but does there exist a person who has any idea how that is set up16:16
Andy80ok, SailSoma submitted to the Harbour, let's see how it goes16:20
Andy80have a nice end of the year guys :)16:20
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VenemoAndy80: you too! and congrats for your app :)16:26
Andy80Venemo: thanks :) you too!16:27
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VenemoAndy80 :)16:28
VenemoAndy80: btw, what's up with you nowadays? it's been a while since I last heard about you.16:28
Andy80Venemo: right now spending few days in Italy with my family, for holidays16:30
Andy80Venemo: then I go back to London where I work and live16:30
VenemoAndy80: London? oh?16:30
Andy80Venemo: yes, I moved there this year in April16:31
jpnurmihow to get something into app settings? like a plugin for the settings app or something?16:31
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tango_cos-: meh16:32
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tango_wonder why16:32
tango_(png instead of svg)16:32
VenemoAndy80: what're you doing there?16:32
Andy80Venemo: Django/Python backend development (p.s: we're a bit OT here :P )16:33
Stskeepskhertan: qt5-qttools-linguist16:33
Andy80Venemo: I need to run anyway... I'm with friends for dinner later16:33
VenemoAndy80: allrighty, have a nice evening!16:34
Andy80Venemo: thanks you too!16:37
Elleojpnurmi: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2013-December/002142.html <-- although it sounds like it may not be able to distribute apps that do this through the harbour yet16:39
jpnurmiElleo: thanks!16:39
Elleono problem :)16:40
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khertanStskeeps, thanks master ... :)16:45
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mfulzdoes someone know why / how I can use a Enum when declared with Q_PROPERTY?17:16
mfulzwhen I'm using it inside a qproperty I'll receive an QVarian(MyENUM) inside qml and cannot use the values17:17
mfulzwhen removing the q_property and just returning it by a method it's working fine17:17
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John24hey guys, have any of you published an app to Jolla store?17:46
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VenemoJohn24: yes17:48
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John24would you have few minutes to asnwer few questions?17:49
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VenemoJohn24: sure17:50
VenemoJohn24: just ask :)17:51
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John24how to properly change the icon file for the app before publishing?17:51
Venemojust replace the file?17:53
John24That's the thing I am new to QtCreator I got no idea where it is17:53
VenemoJohn24: okay, have you seen this: https://harbour.jolla.com/faq ?17:54
John24yes I read that but it makes no sense to me :( that's why I thought to ask here17:54
Venemolook around in your app's folder17:55
TumeezJohn24 What app your coding now?17:55
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John24yeah i see it now there is a myapp name.png file17:55
VenemoJohn24: you can have the file anywhere you like, as long as the project is configured properly. I recommend you to leave it at the default place and just replace the file :)17:56
VenemoJohn24: also, don't forget to prefix your executable and package with harbour- as the faq says17:57
John24brilliant, didn't know that17:57
John24yes my project is harbour-app name17:57
John24and change .desptop file to only have app name withouth harbour-17:57
John24was just sort of lost with the icon17:57
Venemoif you have any questions, feel free to ask here any time18:02
Venemojust know that sometimes you have to wait a bit for someone to answer18:03
John24thank you18:04
John24I really appreciate your help :)18:04
Venemoyou're welcome!18:05
John24there we go, just submited two app to the store :)18:09
John24How long does it take to get an asnwer?18:09
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w00tJohn24: hopefully not too long, but generally at least a working day or two18:12
jpnurmishouldn't the sdk app template comply with those store rules?18:14
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w00tjpnurmi: checks aren't just automatic18:20
jpnurmiVenemo: did you do the adjustments by hand before submitting, or did you actually push those changes to vcs?18:20
Venemojpnurmi: what adjustments?18:21
Venemojpnurmi: aaah, yes18:21
Venemojpnurmi: I didn't use the SDK app template (for various reasons) so I did everything by hand18:22
jpnurmiVenemo: the name changes etc? i'm wondering if the sdk is still able to run if you make those permanent18:22
Venemojpnurmi: I made the changes Sailfish-specific, see https://github.com/Venemo/puzzle-master/blob/master/puzzle-master.pro#L16218:22
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Venemojpnurmi: of course for a sailfish-only app there is no sense in doing it that way18:28
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walokraVenemo: puzzle master is nice. 1 question: couldn't you combine your custom touch controls with silica pullup/down menus? the app looks now more like android app :)18:43
SvioxDamn, fought with Q_ARG macro for a long time. As a warning to the rest of you, don't create a list of arguments in a loop with the macro. Q_ARG takes a reference (which was easy to miss) so the value given should exist when using the thing, i.e. not come from stack... Was wondering why all the data was the same as the last added ^^18:43
Venemowalokra: the gestures required by the silica components collide with the flow of the app18:44
Venemowalokra: so at the end I decided to just use the UI that I already had18:45
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Venemowalokra: I can assure you it has nothing to do with android (although I might create an android port too eventually)18:45
walokrayeah, I know, it just "feels" like it :)18:45
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coderushey, go celebrating NY! go away from PC, IRC, internet!19:07
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lbtcoderus: off to Tango RSN :D19:07
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celeron55what's up with the large chunks of empty lines in sdk's qtcreator's compiler output tab?19:12
Venemohave fun lbt19:12
celeron55they're very inconvenient and there doesn't seem to be any reason for them19:13
Venemoceleron55: I think there're bigger issues than that19:13
celeron55so far this has behaved well enough for that to be my largest problem 8)19:14
celeron55(given that i already know qmake's and qtcreator's more regular quirks)19:15
Venemothe whole SDK is very dubious19:15
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lbtceleron55: good to know :)19:17
FireFlycoderus: happy new york?19:20
SvioxHappy new year everyone. I'm off to senaatintori..19:24
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tango_why should we celebrate new york?19:40
Pnuutango_: 'cause theres gazzillion I <3 NY t-shirts, I'd guess19:41
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mikkosssssdoes this work? Never used IRC before too young maybe..19:43
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kengumikkosssss: um. works19:43
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mikkosssssGood. But my Sailfish SDK wont work. When I try run mediagallery or any other I get error19:47
mikkosssss21:42:59: The process "/home/mikko/.config/SailfishAlpha3/mer-sdk-tools/MerSDK/SailfishOS-i486-x86/qmake" exited with code 2.19:48
mikkosssssError while building/deploying project mediagallery (kit: MerSDK-SailfishOS-i486-x86)19:48
mikkosssssWhen executing step 'qmake'19:48
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celeron55look what comes before it19:53
jpnurmimikkosssss: the actual error is there somewhere before that output19:53
celeron55the actual error is in there between swathes of unnecessary whitespace19:53
mikkosssssIt had these before but it still worked Cannot find file: /home/mersdk/Sailfish.19:53
mikkosssssCannot find file: projects/mediagallery/mediagallery.pro.19:53
celeron55pastebin the full log?19:54
mikkosssssThis is examples mediagallery so I dont think theres error in code19:55
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mikkosssssI found why20:11
mikkosssssFolder that I stored projects had space in name...20:12
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celeron55how can i install packages to the build environment?21:50
celeron55i need SDL221:50
celeron55installing them to the emulator is trivial, but how does the build environment work21:52
celeron55oh, figured it out22:01
celeron55adding sdl2 to the PkgConfigBR list did it22:01
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ElleoMSameer: I think this might be up your alley ;) I'm random getting crashes in libgstogg when changing sources if those sources are http resources; I've made this little test case: http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/oggcrash.qml (it's possible I'm doing something silly though). It'll change sources successfully a few times, before segfaulting.22:44
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meShell_bad timing I think, but has someone a working sailfish sdk for armv7hl at hand :) Mine only has 486 and not able to install armv7hl toolchain somehow ... only need a newer vpnc as the one in the official repo, so from svn (or at least r517): http://svn.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/vpnc/trunk/ ... someone?22:48
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meShell_and happy new yrear, half past 0 here23:33
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celeron55hmm, i managed to compile irrlicht and create an sdl2(+ogles2) backend in it, and it seems to run in the emulator, but nothing comes up and no input events get into the application23:50
celeron55it runs happily in it's main loop though23:51
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