Wednesday, 2014-01-08

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valdur55:) Funny test :D00:08
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valdur55ok. i see a reason why it is only portait :)00:25
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coderuswhich folders and subfolders tracker indexing for gallery?04:16
Elleofrom what I remember being said in the past it indexes ~/Music ~/Pictures ~/Videos and anything on the SD card04:18
Elleoits possible I've forgotten a directory or something though, so it might also index ~/Playlists or something too04:19
coderusonly one location for picture allowed?04:21
coderusi want to keep camera shots and random graphic separately04:22
Elleoyou could have to sub-directories in Pictures, it'll descend into them both I believe04:22
Elleoaha, if you look in /home/nemo/.config/user-dirs.dirs you can see what its indexing in /home/nemo04:23
Elleopretty much all of the default directories04:23
Elleoit'll find pictures in any of the directories it indexes though, (this is why people are having issues with coverart showing up in the gallery, because it's finding their cover.jpg files in Music)04:24
coderusaha, good04:42
* coderus symlikned and binded my N9's MyDocs folders to sailfish ones.04:42
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coderusokay Jolla, i'm ready to release my fixies for lipstick-jolla-home-qt5. now it should work fine on any framebuffer orientation.05:29
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coderuswhere to send diff? Stskeeps w00t ?07:48
Stskeepshmm that's complex07:48
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coderusStskeeps: i can send to anyone of you, you will redirect it internal.07:59
Stskeepscoderus: best thing i really can advise is that you do a writeup of how you did it and put it on together.*, i'm not sure we have any procedures in place to accept contributions to the closed part of our code atm08:00
Stskeepsi'll put that issue on my whiteboard08:00
Stskeepsit's a bit of a nasty issue from a copyright perspective :)08:00
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pp_ugh, copyright assignment forms :)08:04
Stskeepsyeah, that's what ruined my morning :P08:04
pp_once wanted to add my local town to the evolution/whatnot city list08:04
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pp_fortunately they were fine with "This patch is trivial and I don't consider it copyrightable" :-)08:05
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Stskeepswhich is next question "how big a patch08:05
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jabbounethello all08:08
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coderusStskeeps: 133 lines09:37
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coderusStskeeps: done:
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fluxpersonally I don't miss much the landscape support for the system views10:14
fluxthough my opinion could change when I try it ;)10:14
fluxbut at least with the firefox web browser it's annoying that the device orientation can change depending on how you have positioned yourself on the bed ;)10:14
fluxand it can change at other inopportune times as well..10:15
fluxat least the direction of the system gestures versus the device should not depend on the device orientation. it's difficult to be certain which gesture one is invoking; you might change it the last second before gesture, or you might not see the orientation clearly otherwise (viewing black picture?)10:16
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coderusflux: jolla system gestures NOT depends on odientation :)10:24
fluxcoderus, great!10:24
coderusit always in portrait10:24
coderusmy patch is for Nokia N9 adaptation and other devices10:25
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valdur55coderus: nice :)10:29
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tuukkahcoderus, probably just a stupid question, but why Rotation { origin.x: width / 2; origin.y: width / 2 } ? that is, why not origin.y: height / 2?10:33
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tuukkahor perhaps it's actually min(width, height) / 2, and always width < height?10:37
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valdur55qml/ShutdownScreen.qml also have  origin.y : width / 210:43
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coderusbecause display not rectangle ;)10:53
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coderuscan you draw it on a paper and emagine?10:54
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valdur55coderus: ok. but how did you achived that? :D11:13
valdur55damn.. got around that ....11:14
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tuukkahcoderus, i can see a square that forms where the portrait and landscape overlap, whose size is min(width, height)11:16
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coderustuukkah: window always on x:0 y:0 position, its not centered11:32
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valdur55coderus: can i apply the patch on the fly?11:34
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tuukkahcoderus, yes, i can see that now. but still it could just as well be Rotation { origin.x: height / 2; origin.y: height / 2 } ? except that gives a different result. and which one is right, depends on if width < height or height < width?11:38
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valdur55or:  width: layout._transpose ? layout.height : layout.width    (takn from /usr/lib/qt5/qml//Lipstick/SystemDialogLayout.qml )11:51
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valdur55ddamn...  from /usr/lib/qt5/qml/Sailfish/Lipstick/SystemDialog.qml11:52
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valdur55urgh! ( /usr/lib/qt5/qml/Sailfish/Lipstick/SystemDialogLayout.qml) ... and  _transpose: (_screenRotation % 180) != 011:55
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BeholdMyGlorySo, I was having trouble yesterday with not being able to compile a project in the SDK's virtual ARM environment due to a segfault partway through when executing a binary which had been built earlier in the build process.12:07
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BeholdMyGloryIt turns out though, that the problem wasn't with the specific binary in question; rather, any function call to a library built even earlier in the build process would segfault. So as an experiment, I tried compiling the project directly on my Jolla, and lo and behold, the library worked as it should, no segfaults or anything.12:09
BeholdMyGloryI tried debugging a function call in the virtual ARM environment, but every test application would segfault immediately upon calling a function in the library in question, without even actually entering the function, so printf was of no help, and gdb didn't give me any backtraces (unless I did something wrong)12:12
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BeholdMyGlorySo that leads me to today's question, unless anyone has any idea what could be causing the above: When building the project on the Jolla (a standard "./configure && make"), the build for some reason defaults to including -g among the compiler flags, meaning that a bunch of debug symbols get included when running make install12:14
BeholdMyGloryWhen building the project on my own computer (x86) though, -g is not included. How can I make sure that -g is not included when building on the Jolla? Both CFLAGS, CPPFLAGS and CXXFLAGS seem to be empty when running ./configure12:16
BeholdMyGloryOr are you actually supposed to include debug symbols when building RPMs for Sailfish?12:16
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kaltsiBeholdMyGlory: how are you building your stuff?12:21
kaltsifor Sailfish12:21
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BeholdMyGloryThe project I'm trying to build (not my own project) is using autotools, so a standard ./configure && make && make install12:22
kaltsibut how are you building it, using mb2 or sb2 or what and where?12:22
BeholdMyGloryWell, the "virtual ARM enviroment" I was talking about was sb2 after SSHing into the SDK12:23
BeholdMyGloryAnd now, as I mentioned, I'm trying to build it directly on the Jolla12:23
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BeholdMyGlorySince the build won't complete with sb212:24
kaltsiif you are just calling configure and make, then there are no CFLAGS in the environment, right? you need to supply those yourself if you want to12:24
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BeholdMyGloryRight, that's what I'm thinking too, so I have no idea why -g gets included anyway12:24
kaltsiit's probably the default12:25
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BeholdMyGlorySo are you supposed to build final releases with -g?12:25
kaltsi-g can be given so that one can strip the debugging symbols out in order to shipt them separately12:25
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kaltsifor example if you would use the qtcreator environment and selected 'release build', it will build your softwware using -g, but it will strip the symbols out from the target binary and put the debuggins symbols into separate a -debuginfo- rpm package12:26
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BeholdMyGloryI see. So what approach should I be using here? The debug symbols, as far as I can tell, are placed in /usr/lib/debug/ by default; do I just run rm -r on that directory in the .spec?12:27
BeholdMyGloryOr do I leave them be and ship the package with the debug symbols included?12:28
BeholdMyGloryOr is it possible to not have -g be the default?12:28
kaltsiif you would use mb2 -t target build -d, then you would get a the target rpm and debuginfo rpm12:28
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kaltsiit's your software, you can choose what compiler switches to use of course, but then you probably need to modify the configure script that produces the makefile for you12:29
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BeholdMyGloryBut that's in the SDK, right? As I mentioned I can't get the build working there and I have no idea what the problem is, so at the moment I'm trying to build it directly on the Jolla as a last-ditch effort12:29
BeholdMyGloryRegarding mb2, that is12:30
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kaltsiwithout any more detailed info what goes wrong, it's difficult to help12:30
BeholdMyGloryAlso, it's not my software; all I need is to get a functioning RPM and I'm done, as the project in question won't be updated in the future12:31
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BeholdMyGlorySo really my only question left is what to do about those debug symbols12:31
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kaltsiBeholdMyGlory: do you already get an rpm package now?13:03
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kaltsiBeholdMyGlory: if the rpmbuild gives you the debuginfo/debugsource packages in addition to the normal rpm package, then the normal package does not contain debug symbols13:04
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BeholdMyGloryAh, yes, sorry for not reporting back. It turned out that the debug symbols being included wasn't a fault of the build environment or the build scripts; rather, it was rpmbuild's fault, and adding '%define debug_package %{nil}' fixed it13:05
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BeholdMyGlorySo now I have what I need basically, even though I still have no idea what caused the segfaults when building with sb2, though that doesn't really matter at this point13:06
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sledgesSfiet_Konstantin: why friends got rejected from harbour? :/13:15
Sfiet_Konstantinhi again here :)13:16
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: well: no logout capability (got fixed)13:16
Sfiet_Konstantinand login dialog shouldn't be a dialog13:16
Sfiet_Konstantinbecause this lead to trying to swipe the dialog while it was blocked (I disabled the "accept" action)13:17
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john24hey guys13:37
john24got a question about text and hyperlinks13:37
john24I can't seem to find how ty hyperlink text so when user clicks on it it would open a link in the browser13:38
john24any ideas?13:38
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artemmajohn24: kinkActivated signal is your friend14:08
john24so can be be a simple text{} object?14:08
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hsivonenDoes the Android compat layer have API surface for getting rid of the Android back and app switcher buttons?14:44
hsivonenin general, where might I find docs & bug tracker for the Sailfish Android compat layer?14:45
coderustuukkah: you seems to be right, i'll check this.14:45
juke_how do i remove an app in the emulator?14:45
coderusvaldur55: no, this is closed-source component, you need to hack lipstick to apply this.14:45
coderusjuke_: pkcon remove app14:45
juke_what's the ui way?14:46
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valdur55coderus: ok . /usr/bin/lipstick ? :D14:46
coderusjuke_: try to hold on icon, but i'm not sure14:46
coderusvaldur55: right14:46
coderusjohn24: use html tags14:47
juke_when i try that, it says removing app in <countdown> seconds and nothing happens14:47
juke_is there a way to reset an emulator device?14:47
coderuswhy not to use terminal? :D14:48
jake9xxjuke_: remove & reinstall with sdk maint. tool ?14:48
coderusbtw, you can create snapshots in virtual box as far i remember14:48
juke_how do i ssh to an emulator device?14:48
coderusit can bring you back in time :D14:48
coderusjuke_: ssh -p 2223 nemo@localhost14:49
juke_i know, too bad it does not create a snapshot when created14:49
coderusjake9xx: oh right :D14:49
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coderusjuke_: use jake9xx suggestion14:49
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valdur55coderus: oh yea...14:50
juke_sailfishOS -> Targets -> manage ?14:50
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juke_or where's the tool14:50
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Ruslanwhat are the appropriate locations to search books for and where app should download them to?14:58
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juke_is there any way to get pkcon to list installed packages?14:59
stephgjuke_: rpm -qa14:59
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coderusRuslan: i think Documents or so15:02
juke_jake9xx, where the maint. tool is in the sdk?15:03
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jake9xxjuke_: help->start updater15:08
jake9xxjuke_: in qt creator, that is15:08
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juke_hahah, almost as eclipses package manager was the inspiration for this15:12
juke_but thanks jake9xx!15:13
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Ruslanis there some video player with subtitles support or I should search android one right now?15:18
zuttomplayer should do the job15:20
zuttonot sure if it has been ported for jolla, but it was ported to maemo15:20
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RuslanI remember that there were some openrepo or smth like this15:22
Ruslancan somebody refresh my memory?15:22
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TheBootrooRuslan: but pretty empty atm15:23
TheBootroolots of apps for N9 but not much for our beloved Jolla15:23
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Ruslanother question, how can ive android layer access to phone memory?15:24
Ruslani.e. to use android's vlc15:25
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tbrthere is the chum repo for open source projects on OBS15:27
* tbr invites people to submit packages there15:27
coderustbr: should write gui for repositories befire that :)15:29
tbrI am not much of a coder15:30
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tbrsomeone can write a gui if they want to15:30
coderus1% of users will add repos manually to install packages15:30
tbrcoderus: this is for the 1%15:30
tbrif the 99% want this maybe someone of the 1% will write that ui15:30
Ruslantbr: the main problem is not just "write gui"15:30
tbrbut one thing I know 100%, it's not me who will write that15:31
RuslanJolla has Wayland not X11, so vlc must be tought to use it firstly15:31
tbrwhich is a VLC problem, really15:32
tbrthere is plenty of software that can be packaged right now for the benefit of many users15:33
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zuhYou guys do know that X11 can be a wayland client, right? ;)15:41
zuh(or rather, you can run X server as a wayland client)15:41
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zuttodoes wayland even work?15:42
Ruslanzutto: as I see at my phone - it works15:42
zuttoi see15:43
zuttoi havent heard of anyone actually using it on desktop15:43
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zuttowould be intresting to get rid of X tho15:43
zuhthere's this little thing called application support that might be hindering wayland's way to the desktop... (not counting the X11 server as client method of course)15:44
zuttomy WM requires some X functionality too15:44
zuttofor example xinerama is a must have15:44
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zuhIt's not like wayland will cover in few years the problemspace X11 has been solving (poorly or not) for some decades.15:45
valdur55coderus: can you run camera.15:46
valdur55Is black box all over sceen or do you see homescreen background?15:46
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coderusvaldur55: black box half of screen15:55
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valdur55coderus: ok :)15:56
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faenilzutto,   ....... Qt5 and Wayland on desktop ;)16:05
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juke_if main is only return SailfishApp::main(argc, argv);, where is the qml file searched and how?16:07
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krnlyngcoderus: how can i apply the peek fix patch you posted?16:11
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juke_nvm; it's based on the TARGET in .pro16:19
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coderuskrnlyng: you need to hack lipstick or have sources16:30
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krnlyngcoderus: i meant, how do i hack your patch into lipstick :)?16:32
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valdur55does it break normal device camera : ?16:38
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coderuswhere irc log located?16:45
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juke_how does one pass a property for view? the comments in the template do not provide enough info16:55
coderuskrnlyng: you need to extract qml from lipstick and patch it to use qml from disk, and patch qml files.16:55
juke_ this is my main, and it just returns 0 without showing anything16:58
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juke_before or after adding property?17:08
valdur55coderus: what will be next target? :D17:12
juke_it seems that the code is crashing silently somewhere, and setting the property was not the issue17:13
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juke_coderus, thanks!17:14
coderusvaldur55: ?17:14
coderus[Warning: cannot pop while transition is in progress]17:14
* coderus angry17:14
coderusstupid transitions17:14
coderusi can't call dialog after dialog using dialog.onAccepted, great17:15
krnlyngcoderus: sorry if i have to ask such stupid questions.. which tool do i need to extract the qml files?17:15
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valdur55next bug in sfos ...17:15
coderuskrnlyng: you need to write this tool yourself :)17:15
coderusvaldur55: none of interesting me :)17:16
krnlyngdid you have to disassemble lipstick for that :O?17:16
coderuswell, volume buttons maybe, but i'm not sure17:16
coderuskrnlyng: yes17:16
valdur55how you ended up with lipstick disassemble ?17:17
coderuswhat you mean?17:17
valdur55oh. when i remeber correctly... nemomobile had also problem with wrong orientated covers17:17
Ruslancoderus: adding own jobs to system's list still has no public api?17:18
Ruslani.e. notifying about book's downloading process17:18
valdur55coderus: how did you know where you should look ? :D17:19
coderusRuslan: jobs?17:20
coderusvaldur55: i'm hacker17:20
coderusRuslan: ah, you talking about transfer engine?17:21
coderusthere are nwmomobile api for that17:21
Turskiany ideas why bash on fingerterm does not load .bashrc when started?17:22
coderusTurski: maybe environment not set correctly17:22
Ruslancoderus: yeah, transfers. Is it legal to use it?17:22
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Turskicoderus: doesn't seem very incorrect to me, but that would really explain it17:23
Venemofaenil: about that maui thing... their screenshots look kinda ugly17:23
Turskisince it seems to be related to invoker17:23
coderusbut not allowed to harbour at time17:23
Ruslanfirstly I have to understand where to save books %)17:23
faenilVenemo, not think that it's mostly one-man distro :) (or was at least)17:23
faenilnow* think17:23
Ruslanlooks like I have to save them to 'Download' folder17:23
coderusTurski: yup17:23
coderusRuslan: use standart path for documents17:24
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Ruslancoderus: is it legal to 'download' smth to Documents?17:24
Venemofaenil: yeah, looks like17:24
Ruslanstock e-mail client downloads attachments to ~/Downloads/mail_attachments/17:25
coderusRuslan: why not? you can create any files in user folders :)17:25
Ruslancoderus: so why mail client downloads documents to ~/Downloads?17:29
coderusRuslan: because mail attachments are unsorted Downloads17:30
coderusand books imho are Documents17:31
Ruslanbut books downloaded from opds catalogs are also unsorted, aren't they?17:31
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coderusI mean attachments can be any type files17:32
coderusbut books are text books :)17:33
Ruslanok,, what to do with sdcard?17:33
Ruslanshould I try also to find books at it?17:34
coderusit must have17:34
coderusIs there any way to override dialog header buttons not to pop?17:35
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coderusok Dirty Hack, i found you :D17:51
* artemma just got email from Apple app store that our app submitted few hours ago proceeded from Waiting to Review to In Review. Jolla's harbour just moved status to in QA two days ago and no movement then.. /me would appreciate some more progress update. And emails about it17:52
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Turskiaha! found the reason why bash doesn't work correctly when run with invoker18:16
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Turskiunset POSIXLY_CORRECT and invoking bash works18:18
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Turskineed some more investigation18:19
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Turskibut atleast invoking bash from fingerterm works after unsetting that18:19
Turskibut "invoker -s --type=generic env -uPOSIXLY_CORRECT fingerterm" does not18:20
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Turskihowever invoker should clear that environment variable before invoking enything18:21
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Turskii just don't understand why "invoker -s --type=generic env -uPOSIXLY_CORRECT fingerterm" does not work when running bash right after that invokes correctly18:28
Stskeepsspecial: ^18:29
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Hartzidoes anyone know what is the default highlightcolor in silicalistview? theme.somethingColor?18:31
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coderuswhen nothing pressed?18:32
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Hartziwhen pressed18:33
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Hartzii mean bgcolor of a list item18:33
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coderusit can be  some qt internal18:34
coderusComponent.onCompleted: { console.log("highlight: " + listView.highlightColor); }18:34
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VenemoHartzi: see
VenemoHartzi: it's Theme.highlightColor18:35
HartziVenemo: its not same. thats why i'm asking what is it18:36
Venemocould be also secondaryHighlightColor18:37
Hartziits not that either18:37
Venemook, I give up ;)18:37
Hartzisecondary is near but not exactly18:37
coderusHartzi: check if it changing with different ambiances ;)18:38
Hartziwith some themes both are quite far from it18:38
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coderusif not its qt internal color18:38
Hartzicoderus: it is changing18:38
HartziI tested all 4 theme.something colors but none of them is same18:41
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coderuscan i disable swipe for some my dialogs?18:50
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Turski/usr/bin/invoker --type=generic /usr/bin/env -uPOSIXLY_CORRECT /bin/sh -c /usr/bin/fingerterm19:10
Turskiworks ^19:10
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Turskidoes not work: /usr/bin/invoker --type=generic /usr/bin/env -uPOSIXLY_CORRECT /usr/bin/fingerterm19:10
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Turskialso works: /usr/bin/invoker --type=generic /bin/sh -c "unset POSIXLY_CORRECT && /usr/bin/fingerterm"19:14
Turskithat's going to my .desktop now so i can do something else :P19:14
Turskiactually no need to put invoker there since commands are executed with invoker anyway19:15
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Turski/usr/share/applivations/fingerterm.desktop: Exec=sh -c "unset POSIXLY_CORRECT && fingerterm"19:18
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coderusvaldur55: what?19:29
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valdur55allowTopPeek  allowBottomPeek allowLeftPeek allowRightPeek19:33
valdur55coderus: ^^19:33
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coderusyou funny ^^19:36
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valdur55coderus: i am young and green :)19:54
slateAnyone know if the dalvik and bionic libraries used on jolla is generic, or are they highly modde by Jolla? Thinking to replace them with qualcomm optimized ones for a test run..19:56
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YanielI don't think jolla has the resources to mod them19:56
Yanielthey just slap libhybris on the whole stack, wave and smile ;)19:56
Stskeepsyour device will die19:58
slateYou mean will not boot or android-apps will not run?19:59
Stskeepswill not boot19:59
Stskeepswe do mod the bionic ones20:00
slateThats too bad. ;) But thanks for info.20:00
slateWas just about to test :D20:00
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slate/sys/module holds stuff for hdmi and lirc?20:26
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winfrieddAnyone, is debugging on the emulator supposed to work ?21:03
winfrieddRun works fine, but debug hangs in startup21:03
juke_i was wondering the same thing today21:03
winfrieddSo you have the same problem ?21:04
artemmaI think somebody wrote that only qml debugging is supported at the moment21:04
juke_yeah, i didn't solve it yet21:04
winfrieddI'm on Mac btw21:04
* artemma didn't make even QML debugging work, though didn't try lately21:04
juke_is debugging working on actual devices then?21:05
winfrieddOk, thanks, that saves me from troubleshooting.21:05
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jake9xxyeah.. thing is there is a qtbase change upcoming which should address that part21:07
jake9xxwe had some issues with tracing support in qtc eaerlier so we just had to make it work, solution is not ideally nice which will be fixed when we get the updated qtbase21:08
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winfrieddthanks, I also found the confirmation on
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juke_that service looks brilliant21:12
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tortoisedochey sailors21:14
tortoisedocany suggestion for a qtgallery replacement?21:14
tortoisedocperhaps one of the pickers?21:15
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tortoisedocfor some reason21:19
tortoisedocnone of my qml code seems to do what I want it to21:19
coderustortoisedoc: what you want to do?21:23
tortoisedoccoderus: display gallery21:26
tortoisedoctesting around with pickers21:26
tortoisedocbut not much success there21:26
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coderustrief file listmodel?21:34
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tortoisedoccoderus : yes but then i noticed pickers21:35
tortoisedocand there seems to be a gallery ?21:36
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coderusjust make SilicaGridView with nice delegate :)21:40
tortoisedocaaah crap21:41
tortoisedocnow i know why it's not shown :P21:41
tortoisedocim displaying it from a dialog via pagestack21:41
tortoisedoconce dialog is closed, it shows21:41
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tortoisedoccoderus: why why?21:49
coderuswhy its shows once closed?21:50
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tortoisedocmy 2 cents : Gallery is pushed on stack, but because it is not a dialog (but a page), it ends up below the dialog21:53
tortoisedoconce the dialog closes, the gallery appears21:53
coderusis there are difference between page and dialog on stack in sailfish?21:54
coderusi have a problem too21:54
coderusi have c++ function getting QVariant parameter, i sending data to it from qml, but when i checking QVariant.type() its not recognize int, float, and double. it always showing int type21:55
tortoisedoccoderus, does it show the correct value if you qDebug it?21:56
coderusvalue is correct21:57
coderusin this function i need to detect value type to work correctly21:57
tortoisedocso, basically qvariant.type is wrong21:57
coderusbut when i sending double or float it showing int type in qvariant21:57
tortoisedocmake a test case,21:58
tortoisedocmake a qvariant, assign float to it21:58
tortoisedocand qDebug it21:58
coderusits about getting data forom qml to qvariant type21:58
tortoisedochow do you pass value from qml to c++?21:59
coderusi have slot void setValue(const QVariant &value)22:00
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tortoisedoccoderus: have you tried Q_PROPERTY?22:00
tortoisedoc(with QVariant?)22:00
coderuswhat difference&22:01
coderussame function will handle property data22:01
tortoisedochmm not really, property uses methods, not slots?22:01
coderusno difference22:01
tortoisedoci dare you to test :P22:02
coderusi can create Q_INVOKABLE method instead of m slot. what changed?22:02
jargeri'm very noob of this thing and my englis is poor, but i still ty to make gueston. i want to make list of selected items i can do that in qml, but in need it in java script. how i can get it there?22:02
coderusjarger: why javascript?22:03
coderusjarger: or you need to pass selected items from list to javascript?22:03
tortoisedocgood luck coderus, need to leave! thanks for your help22:03
jargeri need to pass items to java22:04
coderusjarger: well, what problem is exactly?22:05
jargeri dot know how to get items there22:06
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coderusjarger: easy way to declare array property and save selected indexies22:09
jargeri got tis list in ListModel{id:test ListElement{something: "Item1"}...} so how i can save it? some file?22:13
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coderuswhy save?22:37
coderussave selected indexies to some property22:38
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coderusitakuuluu  updated to v0.1-20. Many bugfixies. 22:47
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coderus Mitakuuluu  :D22:47
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ottulodoesn't appear on warehouse yet22:52
ottulodoesn't offer update, I mean22:52
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ottulothe changelog is there, though :D22:53
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Hartzicoderus: nice work! :)23:00
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Turskicoderus: nice23:03
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