Friday, 2014-01-10

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bennypr0fanewhat do you guys think of always posting the version no. of latest public release here in the channel topic? Or even better, on a designated page on the website00:16
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slatemorning coderus05:25
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wellu_is it a known problem that Harbour statistics are not updating?08:06
wellu_or is the Total likes, Total downloads etc. gauges just mockups?08:06
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zuhwellu_: Yes, the functionality is not yet there but is worked on I believe08:14
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wellu_zuh: ah... well... was not clear at all that they are not functional.08:16
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cos-what was quick09:27
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cos-btw are warehouse updates displayed as notifications?09:31
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coderuscos-: not yet, will be in future versions10:01
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netzviehcoderus: I have no sim in my Jolla yet. When using Mitakuuluu and someone not yet in my Mitakuuluu contact list writes me, I always get contact sync failed. Is the missing sim the problem? And I can't add contacts to that list, "Phonebook syncing started" "Contacts syncing failed"10:51
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diureettiHi, any ideas how could I drag listview sideways (to expose something underneath) and still be able to scroll the list?11:19
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diureettimy first attempt was using mouse area (fill: parent) and drag but this prevents listview from getting any events11:20
diureettiso, either forwarding events to listview or "spying" events to do the drag are my options but I can't get either to work11:21
diureettiI guess I can create a c++ component that can just listen touch events without capturing them and I guess I try that next. Does anybody have a pointer to a source that would to that and I could look as an example?11:24
lbtdiureetti: what are you trying to achieve?11:24
euroelessarwhat is approximate count of books in phone's local library?11:25
lbtcan you simply use the page approach?11:25
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euroelessarhow much should I optimize scanning of book's collection?11:25
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lbteuroelessar: see settings -> about and it tells you how much space you have - many gigs11:32
euroelessarlbt: I understand that I can upload to my Jolla about 60GB of books :)11:33
euroelessarthe question is - how many books people would really upload11:33
lbthehe ... it has only 16Gb space when it's empty11:33
euroelessarlbt: you've forgotten about microsd slot11:34
euroelessarwhere 64GB microsd card can be placed11:34
cos-is it possible to change virtual keyboard color scheme in qml?11:37
cos-currently it's too transparent11:37
lbtcos-: feedback like that to together.jolla.com11:39
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lbteuroelessar: 60Gb/$BOOK_SIZE_IN_GB11:39
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diureettilbt: I need to expose something underneath listview,  make a peek12:23
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lbtdiureetti: it probably makes more sense to use the existing UI components :) ... try to add an attached page and pull left to get to it12:26
lbtit's similar to a peek but more consitent12:26
lbtand intercepting events is possible - but likely to be confusing to users and painful to handle12:27
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lbt(I did something lke that years ago on the N800 to implement flickable on top of a textarea whilst still allowing drag-to-select12:28
diureettilbt: can you point me to the example or was this closed source?12:29
lbtit was QWidget so almost completely irrelevant :)12:30
diureettiok :-)12:31
lbtand I was mainly saying I know what I'm talking about when I say "don't do that for your sanity's sake"12:31
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lbtdiureetti: it would/should actually be confusing if a 'pull' caused a peek12:35
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euroelessaris it known issue that activating of virtual keyboard resizes all pages but not only active one?12:36
euroelessaror it is correct behaviour?12:37
coderusApplicationWindow changing geometry12:39
euroelessarthis makes reader to recalculate all pages %)12:41
euroelessarshould I use to 'Screen.width/height' properties?12:41
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hsivonenis there a way for an Android app to make a Sailfish-specific request to hide the Android system button bar?12:42
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Stskeepsisn't there such a thing in android12:45
netzviehStskeeps: afaik only for the top notification bar, not the bottom buttons.12:47
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hsivonenStskeeps: There seems to be a way for video players on Android to hide the button when the user isn't touching the screen, but I'm not sure if there's a general way to just get rid of them. In case there's as supported general Android API that an app should call on Sailfish, what's the right way for an Android app to detect that it's running on Sailfish?12:51
hsivonen"right" as in supported as forward-compatible by Sailfish12:51
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coderuseuroelessar: sure, with page.isPortrait checkings ;)12:55
coderuseuroelessar: but it will not work on N9 port =(12:55
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euroelessarcoderus: :(12:57
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euroelessarcoderus: I hope portrait issue will be fixed in upstream12:57
Hurrianchecking for the device as tagged in build.prop would be the best way to alter behavior for running under Sailfish12:58
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radiofreeis anyone working on an openwhatsapp client for sailfish (like wazapp)?13:04
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ottuloradiofree: there's already mitakuuluu13:05
radiofreethat's not opensource right?13:05
ottulowell, that I'm not sure about13:05
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ottulothere's stuff on github13:07
ottulobut I haven't used version control systems so I can't say if that makes it opensource or not13:08
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netzviehhmm the LICENSE files is empty, but the sources are there afaict13:18
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radiofree" Sources will be opened when i finish working on Mitakuuluu. I really afraid of competitors here, sorry. Don't want my project to be forked :) "13:19
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tabaskois there somewhere good example or howto about using python3 with sailfishos?14:18
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tabaskothp's pyotherside documentation is something. But Im still stuck at starting with it14:19
thptabasko: there's which might be a starting point14:19
joonahoitabasko: there's also a short intro written in finnish, 2sec14:21
tabaskojoonahoi: wow, this looks nice14:24
tabaskothanks thp , joonahoi14:24
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joonahoithp is the person you should thank, i'm just a linkbot ;)14:25
joonahoi(and did)14:25
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thpjoonahoi: nice, linked to it from the pyotherside website (although i don't understand what it says ;)14:26
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tabaskothp: it seems to be simple starting tutorial for python + sailfishos. I have tried to search some github repos, but I just get more confused when I try to understand them. Im really rookie :P14:29
joonahoithe article isn't authored by me, just stumbled upon it. it's pretty compact guide in finnish. works too (got the env set up myself using it)14:29
tabaskoand even thinking about mixing python and qml gets head spin14:30
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joonahoiis there any pointers about debugging using pyotherside + qml btw? i wasn't able to get python errors to qt creator log14:36
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joonahoinor qml errors though. in case of error, the program just crashed and returned to emulator desktop14:37
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John24hey guys, Got a question about the Jolla harbour15:13
John24can any of you see stats of your apps on the dashboard?15:13
John24I got 3 apps publioshed already but see no stats at all :(15:13
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VenemoJohn24: you can see the stats on the jolla device itself in the store15:23
VenemoJohn24: unfortunately the web UI is incomplete in this regard15:24
John24Oh it actually isn't working? Well I will just stick to using the store for feedback. I'm more interested in user feedback and stats15:24
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VenemoJohn24: if you don't have a device, I can take a look at the stats for you ;)15:27
John24Thank you for the kind offer :) I do have a Jolla phone15:28
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John24and I was impressed with feedback I got from users, which allowed to me to greatly improve my apps15:28
Jonniyes, currently harbour web pages dont show the stats, we are working on that in the future it does.15:29
Waiteefinally a native app for facebook15:29
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VenemoJohn24: what apps are those, by the way?15:31
John24my apps?15:31
John24Age Calculator, BMI Calculator and VLC Remote15:33
VenemoJohn24: ah, nice15:34
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John24nothing special, still learning QML then gooing to come in getting my C++ code working :)15:35
VenemoJohn24: if you have any questions, feel free to ask around here15:36
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John24oh I have been if not for help here I would have been lost. Never used Qt creator before. VS2010/11/13 was my only experience15:41
coderusany tool in sailfish to make and apply patch for binary files?15:43
VenemoJohn24: it was the same for me15:49
John24you got any apps your working on at the moment?15:50
VenemoI have Puzzle Master (in the store) and at the moment jpnurmi and myself are working on the IRC client15:52
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John24oh wow that's nice :)15:54
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Venemoif you haven't seen it, I also recommend to download puzzle master15:54
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John24I do have it :D and it's brilliant15:55
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Venemothanks John24 :)15:57
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leszekI have a strange problem. pageStack.clear() followed by a pageStack.push(somePage) when using a silicawebview inside the page will end with a blank(white) page. It seems not to redraw until I scroll. Is there a way to force redrawing ?16:43
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coderusleszek: why pageStack.clear() ? isnt somePage not your root page?17:02
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leszekcoderus: exactly somePage is not the root page. Basically I have a list of page objects which I want to replace on the pageStack17:06
leszekand somePage is one of them17:06
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coderusi think you need to pop to root page and then replace it with somePage17:12
coderusi dont like using pageStack.clean17:13
leszekreplace might work but only if I would have 1 page on the stack but somePage is also capable of pushing another page on the stack. A pop() and replace () would be nice but it seems that this does not work as pop() complains about "Cannot pop to invalid target page which is not present on the stack"17:15
jpnurmiyou could iterate to the bottom most page with pageStack.previousPage() and than call replaceAbove()17:15
coderuswhile (pageStack.depth > 1) { pageStack.pop(); }17:16
jpnurmiactually null does the trick too17:16
jpnurmipageStack.replaceAbove(null, newPage)17:16
jpnurmi"Any pages above the specified existingPage will be removed. If existingPage is null, all pages on the stack are removed."17:17
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coderusgood trick, thanks :)17:19
leszekthanks very much this now working as expected ;) Nice tab support now in my little browser finally implemented in a sane way ;)17:20
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TumeezMy phone freezing18:51
TumeezIt take notifications-pulley menu :DD18:51
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TumeezNo any reaction any swipes, only pulley swipe and shutdown swipe works18:53
Yanielsounds like the menu still works however18:53
TumeezYaniel Check video :)18:54
YanielI did18:54
Tumeezo.O ow it's work18:55
TumeezWhat a gell18:55
YanielI hear the clicks on the video18:55
Yanielbut rendering has gone bananas18:55
TumeezI get MitäKuuluu message18:55
TumeezAnd it's work now18:55
meShellhi, started small development today with the SDK and now I need to know if there is a preferred way to run a QProcess with elevated rights?19:01
zuhTumeez: It'd be interesting to see if 'journalctl -a /usr/bin/lipstick' or '/system/bin/logcat -d' (as root) might give hints what the compositor was doing when not updating the screen...19:03
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Tumeezzuh What command i say?19:05
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Tumeezzuh: journalctl -a /usr/bin/lipstick19:09
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zuhTumeez: Yes19:18
zuhIt'll output a bunch of log19:18
TumeezNo more commands?19:19
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zuhThat should show any output from lipstick (the compositor) from the current boot, if you are root. If you run it as nemo, it'll just complain that people should be in adm group to get logs...19:20
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Tumeezzuh I don't need devel-su?19:21
TumeezWhat I do next?19:21
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zuhIf you get the logs, copypaste it to eg.
TumeezLet's try19:23
TumeezShowing user generated messages only. Users in the group 'adm' can see all messages. Pass -q to turn this message off.19:24
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TumeezHow I copy all text PuTTy?19:25
netzviehTumeez: as root19:26
netzviehhit return instead of backspace ;) so ignore that19:27
netzvieh@your putty question dunno19:27
zuhTumeez: ?19:28
TumeezAh okay19:29
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TumeezLogs begin at Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:06:52 +0200, end at Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:12:4419:31
TumeezAnd freezing video shows 20:3319:32
zuhhmh, that's strange...19:32
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Tumeezzuh Anything else idea? :D19:37
netzviehTumeez: did you reboot?19:38
netzviehwhat does uptime say?19:39
TumeezHmm, command?19:39
netzviehthe command is just uptime19:39
Tumeez21:40:08 up 8 days,  5:47,  1 user,  load average: 20.85, 9.84, 6.2419:40
netzviehokay. thats very strange...19:40
TumeezLogfile is full?19:41
TumeezI don't know19:41
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netzviehdoes 'dmesg' say anything? (the last maybe 100 to 500 lines?)19:43
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TumeezSays more confusing text19:44
netzviehhmm. that not enough.. there are lots of entries in there19:44
TumeezU want all text? :D19:45
netzviehhmm the one from the video :P19:45
netzviehthats about an hour ago19:45
netzviehgo back 4200 seconds19:46
netzviehand give me about 2k lines :P19:46
TumeezHow can i browsing previously :D19:47
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netzviehtry dmesg | grep -e "603..\."19:49
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TumeezNo say anything19:49
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netzviehmhh. might be wrong pattern ... anyway. if you just type journalctl as root19:51
netzviehwhere does that start?19:51
Tumeezonly journalctl?19:51
TumeezLogs begin at Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:12:44 +0200, end at Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:12:44 +0200.19:52
netzviehwhat oO19:52
TumeezI don't know :DD19:53
netzviehStskeeps: does jolla throw away logs?19:54
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Stskeepsyes, they're not persistent by default19:56
netzviehah i see only 1M for journald19:56
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TumeezStskeeps Can u say what is this:
netzviehhmm Tumeez if that happens again, get that logs asap (the 'journalctl -a /usr/bin/lipstick')19:58
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netzviehelse i have no idea19:58
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TumeezHmmh.. netzvieh My dev mode isn't active when this bug showing..20:05
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netzviehHmm. I always have an SSH session up and running, while it's in the same network :)20:06
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jpnurmii wish PageStack could queue operations instead of just bailing out right away if there's an active transition ongoing21:52
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jpnurmiit gets ugly if it's in a middle of a page transition while say, an external network event triggers a dialog to be opened21:57
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jpnurmi"Warning: cannot push while transition is in progress" and the dialog never appears... :/21:58
specialdoesn't seem like it would be that difficult of a change21:59
specialalthough everything pagestack ends up difficult eventually, I think21:59
jpnurmihehe i can imagine :)22:00
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w00tspecial: no it doesn't22:35
w00tspecial: you just do: "mvogt, make pagestack do ____"22:35
w00tspecial: and it magically happens22:35
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specialw00t: :>22:36
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