Sunday, 2014-01-12

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coderusmorning07:54
coderushow to add my app to share menu in gallery?07:54
khertancoderus, morning !07:54
coderusis it accounts stuff now?07:58
coderusor i missed something...07:59
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coderusnobody?09:56
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khertancoderus, no idea, sorry10:00
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smokexcoderus: I think you have to add it to tracker.. I'd prefer a gallery that didn't depend on tracker myself11:17
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thpsunkan: ping12:11
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Hartzihmm what could be wrong if a page scroll doesn't work?12:43
thpHartzi: have SilicaFlickable / SilicaListView?12:43
Hartziflickable yes12:44
thpHartzi: and does the console output say anything?12:44
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Hartzihmm no12:44
Hartziall content are inside a column12:44
walokraissues with defining the content height?12:45
Hartzishould i define page height?12:45
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walokraheight of the content inside the column12:46
Hartzievery label and so on should have height defined?12:46
thpHartzi: maybe the flickable should anchors.fill the page?12:46
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thpHartzi: column height and label height should be automatically calculated correctly12:47
Hartzithere is: anchors.fill: parent12:47
thpHartzi: can you pastebin the qml snippet that's causing problems?12:47
Hartzithp: yes, w812:47
Hartzithp: ah nvm. I forget this in flickable: contentHeight: column.height12:51
Hartzinow it works :D12:51
thp:)12:52
thpgood stuff12:52
thpwhat app are you working on?12:52
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Hartzia test app for my batchelor in science thesis12:53
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thpah, cool :) what's the topic?12:56
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Hartziöhm what it could be in english :D amm Finding tasks in a news journalism app or something :D12:57
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Hartzijournalist*12:57
matokingOkay, I still haven't gotten my QML Video element working12:58
walokrain some situation i found that i didn't get the scrolling to work but had to use flow/repeater instead of listview12:58
matokingBut I did get a more verbose error message when I tried playing a .mkv file12:58
matokinghttp://pastebin.com/DKTqJdWm12:58
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matokingDoes anyone have any idea what could be wrong here?12:58
thpHartzi: sounds good12:58
Hartzithp: I'm doing some reserche work how people want's to find their tasks. Candidates are: a list, a map and mobile-AR12:59
Hartziresearch*12:59
Hartziwants12:59
Hartzile fu12:59
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HartziI'll make one app for each 3 methods. A list app is almost ready now :)13:04
Hartzinext I'll find out how I can use Here servises in my app :o13:04
tbrmatoking: try with gstlaunch and a null-sink first13:05
tbron the device13:05
thpso you're then evalulating based on some metrics how those compare? or just how subjectively positive the experience for the user is?13:05
Hartzilast one13:07
thpand are you comparing different OSes too or only different kinds of presentation?13:07
Hartzionly different methods13:08
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Hartzicomparing different OSes could be too much of work for a batchelor thesis13:10
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Hartzisadly I'll have to fake AR somehow 'cause it's too much work to create own AR api13:13
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matoking@tbr You mean running the command "gstlaunch null-sink" on terminal?13:15
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tbrmatoking: you'll need to do a bit more, the search engine of your least distrust should tell you how to form a simple gst-launch pipeline13:17
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matokingGeez, I'm even more confused right now13:24
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thpHartzi: well, there's Vuforia SDK, but you would have to use it through the Android layer13:26
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Hartzithp: yup. Though a programming isn't in focus in this thesis. I just wanted to do a little extra work and learn a bit more :) Faking AR is acceptable13:28
matokingWell I tried running three of the diagnostic commands I found on linux.die.net and only one seemed to work13:29
matoking@tbr Are you sure you mean null-sink and not fakesink?13:30
matoking@tbr Since null-sink doesn't seem to exist on my device13:31
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attahaaarrrgh.. trying to use my c++ object breaks qml without any errors13:34
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attahdo imports have to be some specific case? (i.e. not just the same as declaration and registration)13:36
tbrmatoking: you're making progress at interpreting things :)13:37
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attahoookay.. so it turns out qml messes shit up if objects don't start with a capital letter13:56
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attahso what's the proper way to print to console from c++? stream to qDebug() deosn't work14:03
Venemoattah: qDebug() << "hello world"14:03
Venemoworksforme14:03
attah        qDebug() << "lolol"; doesn't work.. however the exit(7) on the line after works fine14:04
Venemowell, it should work14:04
attahjust my luck..14:04
Venemoattah: if it's of any help, I can offer you to take a look at my code14:04
attahVenemo: sure, thanks!14:05
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Venemoattah: https://github.com/Venemo/puzzle-master/blob/master/main.cpp#L14614:05
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Venemoattah: you can take a look at the rest of the code as well. it doesn't use Silica, but it's based on Qt, QML :)14:09
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attahI'm already doing that.. but no wiser on what i f'ed up14:09
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khertan_Re14:10
khertan_Stskeeps, ping14:10
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attahblaaarrgh qDebug("xyz") works, so i'll just change to that14:21
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* lbt waves to proyvind's cat ...14:23
stephgheh14:24
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Yanielalmost mistook this for #haskell14:28
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matokingThis may be an unrelated issue but xdg-open but doesn't seem to recognize mp4 and mkv video files14:32
Yanielmkv confirmed14:38
Yanielshows up & plays fine in gallery, but xdg says "no method available dor opening <file>"14:39
YanielI guess it is a matter of registering the filetype14:39
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attahi'm a a bit bad at interpreting the import guidelines.. but using QCryptographicHash in c++ should be ok since it's part of QtCore, right?14:53
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Master-Passelihi everyone15:01
Master-Passeliyesterday i tryed to get list of gst capabilities on Jolla phone by running gst-inspect but it seems to hang and take about 100% CPU15:02
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attahDid it crash..? mine did.. at least on an earlier version15:06
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Master-Passelino it did not crash but just keeps running forever15:06
Master-PasseliSDK emulator seems to crash to segfault15:07
Master-Passelimy phones version is  newest maadajävri15:07
Master-Passeligst-inspect gives some output but not everything15:07
attahfunky.. unfortunately i have no idea how to troubleshoot15:08
attahmaybe stskeeps would know something15:10
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StskeepsMaster-Passeli: http://pastie.org/862650715:11
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Master-PasseliStskeeps: thank you very much15:21
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Master-PasseliStskeeps: can i ask is Jolla's camera gstreamer pipeline opensource and available somewhere?15:22
StskeepsMaster-Passeli: not currently15:23
Stskeepswhat'd you like to do with it?15:23
Master-PasseliStskeeps: i was thinking to try code a digital video stabilizator element for jolla's video camera15:24
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Master-Passelii might need pipeline to insert my own element in bin15:24
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Stskeepshmm, i'm not really skilled to tell if that's possible or not, but, https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-gst-interfaces/blob/master/gst-libs/gst/interfaces/nemovideotexture.h may or may not help15:28
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mornfallyo15:33
Master-PasseliStskeeps: thank you. i'll take a look of that code15:34
mornfallis there a way to get the SDK in a form that is not an installer?15:34
mornfallI get, Exception while loading the component script: '://metadata//org.merproject/installscript.qs15:34
mornfallTypeError: Result of expression 'id' [undefined] is not an object.15:34
mornfallBacktrace: <anonymous>()@://metadata//org.merproject/installscript.qs:76'15:34
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kaltsimornfall: no other way is available.. what is your host? win/max/linux, whic os version?15:36
mornfallkaltsi: bummer then... I'm on nixos (linux)15:37
mornfallI mean, I could boot Ubuntu in vbox, but running a VM inside a VM sounds rather kinky15:38
kaltsiI'm unfamiliar with that distro15:38
mornfallthat's not unexpected, the problem isn't the distro though, but the extremely opaque "here a binary installer"15:38
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mornfall(and I also don't see a list of requirements besides virtualbox, but the binary clearly links a bunch of system libraries)15:39
kaltsican you give me more info about your linux.. kernel, compiler, glibc, 32/64bit?15:40
mornfall64b, 3.10.10, glibc 2.17, built with gcc 4.6.315:41
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StskeepsMaster-Passeli: we have a zero copy camera so the buffers are android native buffers15:41
mornfallkaltsi: I expect the problem is in a non-FHS directory layout15:42
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kaltsimornfall: hmm we have a known issue like this: If your /home dir has room and / does not then installer will complain. Solution: pre-create the destination directory and the installer will continue.15:43
kaltsiI haven't seen that myself, so it might not be applicable15:44
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mornfallkaltsi: don't think that's the problem, I get the error on hitting the first "next" in the wizard15:44
mornfallalso can't see anything obvious going wrong in strace15:45
kaltsican you run the installer with -v (verbose) option and save the logs and send them to me by e-mail?15:45
Master-PasseliStskeeps: ok, well at first i probably write my own pipeline for testing and plugin development. inserting that plugin into a real pipeline is not a issue yet.15:46
Master-Passeli(if ever) :D this is just a hobby thing :)15:46
mornfallkaltsi: also, the installer tries to stat a bunch of suspect stuff like /proc/1/exe?15:47
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mornfallkaltsi: complains a lot about Unable to open translated license file. Using untranslated fallback.15:49
mornfallkaltsi: http://pastebin.dqd.cz/MrCe/ is the full output15:49
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mornfall(the SHA is different because I had to patch the ELF interpreter path)15:50
kaltsihmm what's the path for you?15:51
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mornfallwhat kind of path?15:51
mornfalloh15:51
kaltsielf interpreter15:51
mornfall/nix/store/zpr8jdx10napidkyz62f3nzl5fm87jyr-glibc-2.17/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.215:51
mornfalldoes it matter? :)15:52
kaltsidunno :)15:52
kaltsithe installer is made with the Qt installer framework.. that's all I know about it15:52
mornfallwell, installscript.qs is doing something fishy, probably comes from the sdk not from qt15:52
kaltsi var id = installer.execute("/usr/bin/which", ["id"])[0];15:52
kaltsithere's that at least15:53
mornfallthat's kinda stupid :-)15:53
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mornfallPATH exists for a reason15:53
kaltsiyes.. something to fix then, thank you15:53
kaltsilooks like it only calls /usr/bin/which with a path15:54
kaltsiafaik15:54
mornfallbtw. which is an optional component on many systems15:55
mornfall(comes in an extra package and all that... probably common, I didn't check LSB if it's required by that)15:55
kaltsicool15:56
mornfallno, which is not in LSB either15:56
mornfallhttp://www.linuxbase.org/navigator/browse/command.php check this for what commands you can run (more or less) safely15:56
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kaltsican you make an /usr/bin/which symlink or something to check if there are more failures?15:57
mornfallyup, it managed to not crash with /usr/bin/which15:58
mornfallI need to clear up a little space, hang on15:59
mornfall:-)15:59
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mornfallkaltsi: I had to patch up some binaries it installs and directly runs, but luckily it has a retry button so I got as far as this16:08
mornfallkaltsi: Execution failed(Unexpected exit code: 1): "/run/current-system/sw/bin/VBoxManage modifyvm SailfishOS Emulator --ostype Linux26 --memory 1024 --vram 128 --ioapic on --pae on --audio pulse --audiocontroller ac97 --nic1 nat --nictype1 virtio --natpf1 guestssh,tcp,127.0.0.1,2223,,22 --nic2 intnet --intnet2 sailfishsdk --nictype2 virtio --macaddress2 08005A110001 --bioslogodisplaytime 1"16:08
mornfallVBoxManage works though, and the installer did create 2 images in my VirtualBox16:08
kaltsiif you run that command manually, does it tell you anything more?16:10
kaltsiwhich virtualbox version do you have btw?16:10
mornfallyeah, after I fix quoting I get VBoxManage: error: Invalid --audio argument 'pulse'16:10
kaltsiok.. I've heard that problem before16:10
mornfall4.2.1616:11
kaltsithat's recent enough16:11
mornfallwell, I ran it without --audio and told the installer to ignore the problem16:12
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mornfallI can tweak the settings in virtualbox I guess16:12
mornfallit went through16:12
kaltsiyes, it's not critical but you probably won't get any audio16:12
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kaltsiwhich binaries did you have to patch btw.. can something be done to that in the installer?16:13
kaltsihum well it's about the ELF interpreter again I guess16:14
mornfallyes16:14
mornfallyou probably don't need to worry about that16:14
kaltsiand the only way to help you is to make the sources available16:15
mornfallwell, that'd definitely help :)16:15
kaltsiyep.. those will be out eventually16:16
mornfallOK, I have QtCreator running, I guess that's something :)16:16
kaltsiminor yay16:16
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mornfallWell, it seems to work but I don't have the SailfishOS template. Brb.16:20
PeterParkthe  QCompass.reading.azimuth should deliver real, however there are only ints coming through to QML.. I never got any 276.5 only 276 .. Is this by design?16:21
mornfall(It does show the tutorial though, so it can see *some* of its data...)16:21
kaltsimornfall: do you have a $HOME/.config directory?16:23
mornfallkaltsi: yes16:23
mornfalland ~/.config/SailfishAlpha3 is in there too16:23
kaltsimornfall: good.. could you close qtcreator, rm -rf that SailfishAlpha3 dir and start qtc again16:24
mornfalljust tried, didn't quite help16:24
mornfall(well, I mv'd it away)16:24
kaltsimornfall: if it's still buggy, the SailfishAlpha3 dir contains some xml files that have paths..16:24
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mornfallit wants to update, let's try that first16:28
kaltsiit will download a new qtcreator16:28
kaltsithere's a fix to application output logs, but nothing more16:29
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mornfallkaltsi: Supported Platforms: Desktop (in new project, rightmost column) -- could this be the problem?16:35
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kaltsiit should offer the sailfish application template16:38
kaltsifor me it says Supported Platforms: Mer16:38
mornfallyup, problem found16:39
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mornfallin /home/mornfall/.config/SailfishAlpha3/mer-sdk-tools/MerSDK/SailfishOS-i486-x86/gcc the #! is set to /bin/bash (should be /bin/sh and $@ in that script is missing quotes, btw.)16:40
mornfallpossibly other scripts too16:40
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kaltsihmm I wonder if that can cause the missing template in new project dialog.. the arg handling in those scripts has been change, but they still do call bash16:44
mornfallyes it can, because qtcreator can't run the script and figures the platform doesn't work16:44
mornfallthe emulator runs now too :)16:45
kaltsichanging the scripts to /bin/sh works for you?16:45
mornfallnah, they have to work on the first run otherwise something in .config breaks and the templates never show up16:46
mornfalland the scripts reside in the same .config16:46
kaltsihum16:46
mornfallso I made a /bin/bash symlink for now16:46
mornfalldeploying the app into the emulator works as well, I guess I'm good to go16:48
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kaltsiI'll make a pull req to change the /bin/bashes to /bin/sh16:49
mornfallthanks16:49
mornfall(but you probably want to double check that none of the scripts contain bashisms, as /bin/sh is not bash on some systems)16:50
kaltsiyep16:50
mornfallseems they are simple wrappers so shouldn't be a problem16:50
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mornfallkaltsi: thanks for your help17:07
kaltsimornfall: yq, thanks for the input... we have very limited testing environments, so some users will be the first to test some environments :)17:08
kaltsis/yq/yw17:08
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alightanyone in?17:42
valdur55yes.17:42
alightI think I heard the sailfish UI isn't open source, is that so?17:43
Yanielyes17:43
Yanielfor now17:43
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Yanielthey said they are working on opening that as much as they can, but for now it is closed17:44
alightI was thinking about skinning the ui, I'm thinking that might make it harder17:44
alightor would it still be possible?17:45
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rcgaint the silica components open source?18:09
rcgwouldn't that help in skinning18:09
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alightI don't know, I didn't get my device yet so I have not looked into it that much yet18:10
alightI'll have to see how much free time I can spare on the project too but it's nice to know the possibilites :)18:13
fk_lxrcg: qml part is open source of those components18:14
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alightand with qml I could play around with layout, styling and animations, right?18:20
alightI had a look at qml when I got my N9 and it looked simple enough18:20
tbralight: just install the SDK and play around with it18:21
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smokexI liked designing my gui graphically.. which doesn't play well with QML18:23
smokexat least not yet18:23
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John24hey guys18:32
John24what's the best way to go throw elemets from responseXML.documentElement;?18:33
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coderusXmlListModel?18:38
John24I want to avoid it as I would need to package it with the rmp18:38
coderusXmlListModel is base component built in system :)18:39
John24oh really?18:40
John24I will check now18:40
coderusof course18:40
coderusits just a model :)18:40
John24how would I use it properly with my fucntion? http://pastebin.com/WnCXs6PT18:41
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coderusF1 - XmlListModel :)18:42
coderusits easy queries from xml tree18:43
John24thank you I shall read all about now it18:44
John24it now18:44
smokexthat sounds eerily like java18:45
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John24pople give both examples which one is right?                     xmlModel.xml = httpReq.responseXML                     xmlModel.xml = httpReq.responseText18:49
John24xmlModel is my id of my model18:49
John24I am just not sure if to use httpReq.responseXML or httpReq.responseText18:49
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coderusdo you really need this?18:54
John24well I pull the xml information from a webpage http://localhost:8080/requests/status.xml18:54
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coderusxmlModel.source: "http://request-site.com/path/to/something&query=awesome"18:54
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coderusthen do xmlModel.source: "/home/nemo/.mozilla/mozembed/prefs.js"18:55
coderuswrong clipboard18:55
coderusxmlModel.source: "http://localhost:8080/requests/status.xml"18:55
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John24and I want to read ithow do I pass authentialtion?18:55
John24httpReq.setRequestHeader("Authorization", "Basic " + Qt.btoa(username + ":" + password));18:55
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John24to get the xml user needs to pass username and passworkd that is why i am using  XMLHttpRequest()18:56
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coderusaha, if you need authorization you need to use httpRequest :)18:58
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John24it's never that easy :)18:59
John24and I am getting the error again: module "QtQuick.XmlListModel" is not installed       import QtQuick.XmlListModel 2.018:59
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coderusxmlModel.xml = httpReq.responseText19:01
coderusinstall it19:02
coderusadd to requires19:02
coderusqt5-qtdeclarative-import-xmllistmodel19:02
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John24I guess i got a problem because i did this yesterday as well19:03
John24and it shows their are insalled19:03
coderusinstall on device19:03
coderusadd to package requires to install automatically19:04
John24by device you mean my Jolla or the emulator?19:06
John24I'm sorry for being a noob this is all new to me19:07
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virtapoika_Hi19:12
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virtapoika_I have a problem with building my Sailfish app to rpm. The reference at the sailfishos.org is a bit messy so if someone could tell simply  what to do.19:13
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John24you see a debug button above build?19:15
John24in Qt creator19:15
John24well it be a release or debug19:15
virtapoika_Yeah, I have pressed debug-"deploy as rm package"19:17
virtapoika_*rpm19:18
John24shoudl have same thing as me here http://i.imgur.com/fsCwu6n.png19:19
virtapoika_There's no rpm package at myproject/rpm. Only .spec and .yaml19:20
coderusJohn24: no matter19:20
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coderusjust add it to depends and it will be installed automatically19:20
entilwhat's the best way to get qDebug() output on the phone somewhere?19:21
entilstupid app of mine works on the emulator but not the phone :E19:21
John24ok I will try19:22
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John24coderus yep it worked when deploying to phone19:23
* coderus Zzzz....19:25
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virtapoika_I'm now trying to add my Jolla to my qt's devices.  I have ubuntu 13.10 and Jolla is in the development mode/ssh enabled/password set. I still get timeout error19:26
virtapoika_When trying to add my phone19:27
John24you need to have your ip address as 192.168.2.wharever19:27
virtapoika_Yyeah, I've used it19:28
virtapoika_and checked it various times19:28
John24what's your ip now?19:28
virtapoika_192.168.2.1519:28
virtapoika_default19:29
John24I mean what's your pcs Ip address19:29
John24local ip19:29
virtapoika_91.154.101.38 It is something like this (using ifconfig command)19:29
Turskivirtapoika_: give ip for usb0 interface19:30
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Turski"ip a add 192.168.2.14/24 dev usb0" for example19:30
virtapoika_yeah19:30
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virtapoika_My computer won't show it19:30
Turskivirtapoika_: did you do that?19:31
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Turskion your pc19:31
Turskisounds like you didn't19:31
virtapoika_wow sorry, I didn't read it correctly19:31
virtapoika_done19:31
Turskithen ssh nemo@192.168.2.1519:32
virtapoika_I've logged in19:32
Turskigrats19:32
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virtapoika_still the same problem in qt19:34
virtapoika_...19:34
virtapoika_should I use the port 22?19:34
Yaniel22 is the default ssh port19:34
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Yanielso if qtc should ssh somewhere, probably yes19:35
virtapoika_yeah, but it doesn't work19:35
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virtapoika_I think my problem has something to do with mtp+ubuntu problems19:37
virtapoika_I have several times tried to use my jolla (and galaxy tab2) as an usb mass storage but it always shows an error like "can't connect bla bla bla"19:38
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simple_dev@virtapoika: are you having trouble connecting your jolla to your computer?19:39
virtapoika_yes19:40
simple_devyou said something about Ubuntu...what version are you using?19:40
virtapoika_13.1019:41
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simple_devhmm...odd, I got my phone to connect via USB in 13.0419:41
Yanielwhy bother with mtp19:42
Yanielsince you can have sshfs19:42
virtapoika_okay, I'm now trying to install some mtp libraries19:42
Yaniel(unless you don't want to enable developer mode)19:43
simple_devI remember having to install the "usb-modeswitch" package in some version of Ubuntu when trying to connect some device...19:43
virtapoika_I'll try that19:44
simple_dev...apparently I already have usb-modeswitch installed. Perhaps it's installed by default in newer versions...19:45
entilthink I found something for qDebug.. http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtcore/qdebug.html so I should be able to give it a QIODevice19:45
entilor more to the point QFile, which inherits from QFileDevice whatever that inherits from QIODevice19:46
simple_devBut as Yanial said, SSH through developer mode is easy if you have a wifi router19:46
virtapoika_yeah it should be but it doesn't work either19:46
Yanielas is using the cable, once the interface is configured19:46
Yanielwhich on linux is like 2 commands19:47
entilbut it says "no matching function for call to 'QMessageLogger::debug(QFile&)'" :/19:47
virtapoika_Should I have some settings enabled on my router to use ssh jolla-mycomputer?19:47
virtapoika_otherwise I use ssh right now to control my rpi19:48
Yanielit should allow tcp connections to port 22 ;)19:48
Yanielwhat does it say when you try to ssh to the jolla?19:48
virtapoika_Timeout error19:49
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Yanielhm19:49
virtapoika_yeah I know19:49
virtapoika_hmmhmm19:49
Yanieland developer mode shows an ip address in settings?19:49
virtapoika_;D19:49
virtapoika_yeah19:49
simple_devwhat is the local ip of the phone?19:50
simple_devshould be 192.168.0.something?19:50
virtapoika_192.168.10.107  Interesting part in my story is that my default gateway is something like 91.154... but it is not my public ip19:50
simple_dev...and you are trying to connect with "nemo@192.168.0.something"?19:50
virtapoika_yeah19:50
virtapoika_no19:50
virtapoika_nemo@192.168.10.10719:50
virtapoika_I have been thinking to call my network provider19:51
Yaniel91.154... sounds weird19:51
virtapoika_yeah19:51
virtapoika_absolutely weird19:51
virtapoika_And I can't even connect to my routers "settings page"19:52
Yanieldoes ip addr show anything useful?19:52
Yanielthat sounds definitely wrong19:52
simple_devhave you tried if the same thing happens on a friends router?19:52
virtapoika_No I haven't19:52
virtapoika_My network provider gave me a new router week ago19:53
virtapoika_before the new one I never had any problems with ssh19:53
simple_devsound like it might be something with the router then19:53
virtapoika_yeah19:53
simple_devit should have some sort of control panel where you can see how strict the settings are (what type of connections are allowed, ports, etc)19:54
virtapoika_yeah, I have portforwarded BEFORE19:54
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virtapoika_I'll call tomorrow to my network providers support19:55
simple_devI guess that is best19:55
simple_devSince you appear to use the right commands and all, I don't really know where to begin if the problem is with the router19:56
virtapoika_Yep ;) From thing to another: How can I build locally .rmp file?19:56
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simple_devthe IDE has a button with the sailfish logo just above the green "run" arrow19:57
simple_devfrom there, you can choose debug or release and what type of build you would like19:57
virtapoika_yeah I've setted it to release-deploy as rpm19:57
virtapoika_And my app runs on emulator19:58
virtapoika_but where can I find the .rpm file19:58
simple_devBy default...19:59
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simple_devI think it creates a folder named something like build-yourappname-MerSDK-sailfishos-something-release19:59
simple_dev...in the same directory as you app19:59
virtapoika_yeah I found it20:00
virtapoika_should I now make it20:00
virtapoika_command "make"20:00
virtapoika_there's makefile20:00
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simple_devthere should be another folder called "RPMS" where you'll find the rmp packages20:01
simple_devit should contain multiple packages20:01
virtapoika_Found it20:01
virtapoika_it is I586 architecture20:02
simple_devthe "real" one is the one that doesn't have things like debuginfo/source/test/ in the name20:02
virtapoika_(y)20:02
simple_dev= the one that should be submitted to harbour...if that is what you intend20:02
virtapoika_Yeah20:02
virtapoika_But does the i586 app work?20:02
virtapoika_Jolla is Arm powered device20:03
simple_devoh...right20:03
simple_devyou should use the MerSDK-SailfishOS-armv7hl kit in the IDE when you make the release package20:04
virtapoika_I need to set a device for the arm kit20:05
simple_devI added a MER arm device = my jolla phone, and used that for debugging20:06
virtapoika_Yep and there's my problem20:06
simple_dev...but I don't know if a working device is actually needed...you may just need to add "some" device20:06
virtapoika_haha :D20:07
simple_devafter all, you just need to build it, not run it20:07
virtapoika_yeah20:07
simple_devbut basically, you should build it using the arm-kit, and then just get the right rpm20:08
simple_devor that's what I did anyways...I'm not really an expert on this20:08
virtapoika_Okay, I got it Thanks!20:08
simple_dev...but I DID get my app to the store anyways20:09
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virtapoika_I'll try to use i586 on my jolla20:09
simple_devDid you get it to build using the arm-kit?20:09
virtapoika_Nope :(20:10
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simple_devit doesn't work if you just add the kit and set up a "fake" arm device?20:10
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virtapoika_No :( It needs Jolla to be connected20:11
simple_devdarn...then I don't really know...I had my jolla connected to the IDE at the time20:13
virtapoika_okay20:13
virtapoika_Thanks anyway for everything20:13
simple_dev...but I would assume that you could BUILD the app without running it on the device20:13
simple_devSure, no problem20:13
virtapoika_Do you have dropbox20:13
virtapoika_Installed on pc/phone?20:14
virtapoika_because I have a problem with my all devices (tablet, pc,  phone) to connect dropbox20:14
virtapoika_web interface works20:14
virtapoika_and I've used 3g and wlan20:14
simple_devUm...no, I don't actually use it...20:15
virtapoika_okay20:15
simple_devPerhaps they have some problems...I think dropbox was hacked a few days ago?20:15
virtapoika_Yeah, I assume something like that20:16
simple_devChanging topic: does anybody know how to bind a function to the on screen keyboard's "return" button?20:16
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jpnurmiTextField { EnterKey.onClicked: { doSomething() } }20:17
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virtapoika_yeah I remembered something like that20:18
walokravirtapoika_: dropbox wasn't hacked but they're experiencing some problems20:19
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virtapoika_Oh okay :) Thanks @Walokra20:20
simple_devyeah that might be the case...I just remembered reading something about dropbox being down and some hackers claiming responsibility for it20:20
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simple_devanyways, I suppose that's a bit off topic...20:21
simple_devWas there anybody around who know their way around the on-screen keyboard (programming)?20:24
virtapoika_TextField { EnterKey.onClicked: { doSomething() } }20:25
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virtapoika_copyed from jpnurmi20:26
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simple_dev@virtapoika: yes, I tried that...but the IDE gave me an "invalid property name 'EnterKey' " error20:29
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walokrait says that but it works20:30
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jpnurmisimple_dev: https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-enterkey.html20:33
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simple_devargh...so it does! Stupid of me not to actually TEST it20:34
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simple_devWell...that takes care of that! Thank you!20:35
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rcgElleo, ping20:39
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Elleorcg: pong?20:42
rcghey Elleo20:43
Elleoheya20:43
rcgyou are the developer of rockwatch, right?20:43
Elleorcg: yep20:43
rcgi guess you are using the pebble python lib for interfacing with the watch?20:43
rcgi got a pebble heading in my direction and am pretty interested in some experiments with that :)20:44
Elleorcg: yeah, although with a few patches from the official release to stop it using crazy amounts of cpu and adding httpebble support20:44
Elleodunno if any of that's been fixed with the new version of the 2.0 beta though20:44
rcgand my first idea is to create something like qt/qml bindings for interfacing with the watch20:44
tbrrcg: btw, got your package working on OBS, was very easy, ripped out the binaries ;)20:45
rcgi.e., re-writing what the python pebble lib does based on qts' bluetooth stack20:45
rcgtbr, yay, cool :D20:45
Elleorcg: that'd be cool20:45
rcgtbr, so qca-qt5 is available in that sailfish target?20:45
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Elleolibpebble isn't exactly a bastion of great python20:46
rcgElleo, wanted to ask you if you are interested in something like that as well :)20:46
tbrrebuilt that by copypac from nemo20:46
Elleoso having a more portable and better written c++ lib would be nice20:46
rcgtbr, ah great, thanks :)20:46
Elleonot something I'm likely to have a massive amount of time to dedicate to helping out with though I'm afraid20:46
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rcgElleo, the mid- to long-term goal would be to have an own lib for interfacing pebble entirely written in qt/qml20:47
tbrrcg: stuff is here https://build.merproject.org/project/packages?project=home%3Atbr%3Asailfish20:47
Elleoalthough I might hit another dry spell workwise at some point I guess, I'm pretty booked up for the next few months20:47
rcgElleo, the short-term goal would be to have something one can copy paste into a project and build as part of that project20:47
rcgElleo, sure, the same holds for me :)20:47
tbrI wonder if it wouldn't be easier to add pebble support to SOWatch20:48
rcgElleo, just wanted to give you a heads up about my plans.. and well, i have to see as well how much time i can dedicate into this ;)20:48
tbrproblem is: it's not ported to Qt5 yet20:48
rcgtbr, thanks for the link :)20:48
Elleoyeah, sowatch might be another good option; I'd avoid doing anything with that due to not wanting to rewrite libpebble, but if someone else fancies doing that... ;)20:49
rcgtbr, hmm, i see.. well, i just wanted to start very simple by just tinkering around a little and looking at what libpebble does20:49
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Elleoavoided*20:49
rcgand, well, similar to Elleo i only have very limited time for such play-things20:49
tbryeah, so do I20:50
tbr(or else I'd have figured out sowatch for sailfish, and I need it urgently)20:50
rcgbut from my past experience writing qzeecontrol (interact with zeemote bluetooth remote control) doing bluetooth stuff with qt was fairly easy20:50
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rcgbut well, i first need the parcel to arrive here ;)20:51
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rcgElleo, tbr i can ping you guys when i have something like a prototype working :)20:52
* tbr has a metawatch anyway :)20:52
Elleorcg: sure, I'd be interested in that20:52
rcgtbr, :)20:52
rcgtbr, how satisfied are you with that one?20:53
tbrpure awesome20:53
rcgi was considering metawatch or pebble and went with pebble for now, for, well i dunno recall the very reason anymore :)20:53
rcgcool :)20:53
tbrit's a real watch on the outside, solid steel, hard glass, msp430 inside20:53
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rcgyeah, it looks very nice indeed20:54
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rcgtbr, can you use it with the n9 or jolla?20:55
tbryes, still have my N950 around because of that20:55
rcggreat :)20:56
attahn950.. *drool*20:59
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tbrattah: by nowadays standards, it sucks21:08
attahtbr: true.. still cool though... I stuck with my N9 until the Jolla arrived, and I'll keep my other N9 as a work phone for at least another year, probably more21:10
* tbr has a jolla work phone and a private jolla, much better. ;)21:11
attahdo you have an other half that connects your other jolla? :P21:11
* Stskeeps has jolla work phones and baby jollas21:12
Stskeepswell, baby sailfish21:12
attahplease do elaborate..21:12
Stskeepswhen they grow up, they'll be real sailfish devices21:12
Stskeeps:P21:12
attahStskeeps: you sure know how to get us interested ;)21:13
rcgStskeeps, then feed em well :)21:13
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attahnot too much though.. unless it's going to grow to a tablet.. hmm21:14
Stskeepswhat'd you want in a sailfish tablet, ooi?21:15
attahDisplay on par with others.. HW so that UX is better.. not that hard ;).. not the lol-margins on top/bottom like nexus7..21:17
Stskeepsresolution?21:17
attahyes, 1080 for a 9 inch maybe21:18
ShadowJKFront-facing stereo speakers.21:18
attahreally as long as it's sailfish and the UX scales in "power" when you increase the size I'm ordering before it comes out21:18
Stskeepshehe21:21
attahI ordered *before* jollaloveday and still didn't get invited to finland :(21:21
Nicd-when was jolla love day?21:22
attahmay some time21:22
Nicd-I think all the 450 ordered the same day ordering started21:22
* Stskeeps didn't go to jolla love day21:22
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attahyeah.. i ordered like 11 and the event was at 1921:23
attahso "day" might have been misleading21:23
attah+/- time zone diff21:24
Stskeepsi however have magnificient pictures of the launch queue from above21:24
Stskeeps:P21:24
attahStskeeps: are you god?21:25
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lpotterattah: he was just in creative mode21:25
lpotterwhere you can fly21:25
attahlol21:25
Stskeepsno, but omniscience would be helpful in my job21:25
attahyour results seem to indicate some degree of it though..21:26
attahbtw.. any chance of minecraft on jolla?21:26
Stskeepsi bought minecraft PE from amazon app store at least21:26
attahbut isn't PE 'tard-mode?21:27
Stskeeps.. no clue21:27
attahmaybe they improved it21:27
attahbut performance was good?21:28
Stskeepsi must admit i only bought it to test payment functionality working21:28
Stskeeps:P21:28
lpottermym kids are mindcraft crazed21:28
attahoh well there could be worse companies getting your money ;)21:29
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attahWhere can I see which icons a the should provide?21:33
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Hartzihey, are there any good examples how to use nokia here map api in own app?22:07
tbrhmm is there an app api?22:08
HartziI think there is22:09
HartziI found this: https://github.com/otsaloma/helsinki-transit-live/tree/master/qml22:10
HartziIt seems that it reguires some sort of a key to use here map in own app.22:11
Hartzibut I dont have any idea how to get one22:11
tbrahhhh, so it doesn't use the sailfish stuff, but directly uses HERE22:12
Hartziyes it seems so22:13
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John24is anyone here good at reading xml tables?22:27
Yanielhrr, xml22:27
John24I am trying to read filename from this <information><category name="meta"><info name="setting"> HAS_INDEX IS_INTERLEAVED</info><info name="filename">Despicable Me (2010) BDRip</info>22:27
John24using this :  XmlRole{ name: "filename"; query: "information/category/info/@filename/string()"}22:27
John24but it seems to be wrong22:28
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John24ok here with tabs so looks readable: http://pastebin.com/vx0MBB3222:29
John24sorry that's the proper one: http://pastebin.com/ZcC7qKGe22:31
ElleoJohn24: the attribute in your example is name22:31
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Elleobut in your query you've got @filename22:31
Elleo"filename" is the contents of that attribute in the example22:31
John24ohh i see so I would need to change the xmlrole to look for name? but how would i know i found the filename?22:32
John24XmlRole{ name: "filename"; query: "information/category/info/name[2]/string()"} ?22:33
ElleoI think what you mean is [@name="filename"]22:34
tbrHartzi: http://developer.here.com/terms-conditions-base - I suspect this is the direction?22:34
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John24would I need [] aroudn it?22:34
ElleoJohn24: as in: information/category/info[@name="filename"]22:35
Elleopretty sure you would22:35
John24can't use ""22:35
John24it remotes the string22:35
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John24YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY22:36
Elleoif you're using " as your quoting character in qml you can just use 's22:36
John24used ' '22:37
John24and it's alive :))))))))))))))))))))))))))22:37
Elleoand if you want to use the string() function I think you want string(information/category/info[@name='filename'])22:37
John24once again Elleo what would I do withouth you22:37
John24many thank you's like always22:37
Elleono problem22:38
John24Now I am actually code my program and finish the features I planned to do weeks ago22:38
Hartzitbr: yes it seems so22:41
HartziError: Error while loading page: file:///opt/sdk/Kartta/usr/share/Kartta/qml/pages/MapPage.qml:3 module "QtLocation" is not installed22:42
Hartzi:/22:42
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tbrHartzi: try installing it, but might be device only22:57
Hartzithey're not installed in virtual machine?22:58
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tbrwho knows22:58
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HartziIt seems so23:00
Hartzi3rd time x)23:00
Hartziworks nice when run on device23:00
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Hartzihmm now i need to figure out how i can center my map into my coordinates23:03
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