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coderus | morning | 07:54 |
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coderus | how to add my app to share menu in gallery? | 07:54 |
khertan | coderus, morning ! | 07:54 |
coderus | is it accounts stuff now? | 07:58 |
coderus | or i missed something... | 07:59 |
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coderus | nobody? | 09:56 |
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khertan | coderus, no idea, sorry | 10:00 |
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smokex | coderus: I think you have to add it to tracker.. I'd prefer a gallery that didn't depend on tracker myself | 11:17 |
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thp | sunkan: ping | 12:11 |
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Hartzi | hmm what could be wrong if a page scroll doesn't work? | 12:43 |
thp | Hartzi: have SilicaFlickable / SilicaListView? | 12:43 |
Hartzi | flickable yes | 12:44 |
thp | Hartzi: and does the console output say anything? | 12:44 |
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Hartzi | hmm no | 12:44 |
Hartzi | all content are inside a column | 12:44 |
walokra | issues with defining the content height? | 12:45 |
Hartzi | should i define page height? | 12:45 |
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walokra | height of the content inside the column | 12:46 |
Hartzi | every label and so on should have height defined? | 12:46 |
thp | Hartzi: maybe the flickable should anchors.fill the page? | 12:46 |
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thp | Hartzi: column height and label height should be automatically calculated correctly | 12:47 |
Hartzi | there is: anchors.fill: parent | 12:47 |
thp | Hartzi: can you pastebin the qml snippet that's causing problems? | 12:47 |
Hartzi | thp: yes, w8 | 12:47 |
Hartzi | thp: ah nvm. I forget this in flickable: contentHeight: column.height | 12:51 |
Hartzi | now it works :D | 12:51 |
thp | :) | 12:52 |
thp | good stuff | 12:52 |
thp | what app are you working on? | 12:52 |
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Hartzi | a test app for my batchelor in science thesis | 12:53 |
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thp | ah, cool :) what's the topic? | 12:56 |
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Hartzi | öhm what it could be in english :D amm Finding tasks in a news journalism app or something :D | 12:57 |
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Hartzi | journalist* | 12:57 |
matoking | Okay, I still haven't gotten my QML Video element working | 12:58 |
walokra | in some situation i found that i didn't get the scrolling to work but had to use flow/repeater instead of listview | 12:58 |
matoking | But I did get a more verbose error message when I tried playing a .mkv file | 12:58 |
matoking | http://pastebin.com/DKTqJdWm | 12:58 |
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matoking | Does anyone have any idea what could be wrong here? | 12:58 |
thp | Hartzi: sounds good | 12:58 |
Hartzi | thp: I'm doing some reserche work how people want's to find their tasks. Candidates are: a list, a map and mobile-AR | 12:59 |
Hartzi | research* | 12:59 |
Hartzi | wants | 12:59 |
Hartzi | le fu | 12:59 |
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Hartzi | I'll make one app for each 3 methods. A list app is almost ready now :) | 13:04 |
Hartzi | next I'll find out how I can use Here servises in my app :o | 13:04 |
tbr | matoking: try with gstlaunch and a null-sink first | 13:05 |
tbr | on the device | 13:05 |
thp | so you're then evalulating based on some metrics how those compare? or just how subjectively positive the experience for the user is? | 13:05 |
Hartzi | last one | 13:07 |
thp | and are you comparing different OSes too or only different kinds of presentation? | 13:07 |
Hartzi | only different methods | 13:08 |
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Hartzi | comparing different OSes could be too much of work for a batchelor thesis | 13:10 |
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Hartzi | sadly I'll have to fake AR somehow 'cause it's too much work to create own AR api | 13:13 |
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matoking | @tbr You mean running the command "gstlaunch null-sink" on terminal? | 13:15 |
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tbr | matoking: you'll need to do a bit more, the search engine of your least distrust should tell you how to form a simple gst-launch pipeline | 13:17 |
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matoking | Geez, I'm even more confused right now | 13:24 |
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thp | Hartzi: well, there's Vuforia SDK, but you would have to use it through the Android layer | 13:26 |
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Hartzi | thp: yup. Though a programming isn't in focus in this thesis. I just wanted to do a little extra work and learn a bit more :) Faking AR is acceptable | 13:28 |
matoking | Well I tried running three of the diagnostic commands I found on linux.die.net and only one seemed to work | 13:29 |
matoking | @tbr Are you sure you mean null-sink and not fakesink? | 13:30 |
matoking | @tbr Since null-sink doesn't seem to exist on my device | 13:31 |
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attah | aaarrrgh.. trying to use my c++ object breaks qml without any errors | 13:34 |
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attah | do imports have to be some specific case? (i.e. not just the same as declaration and registration) | 13:36 |
tbr | matoking: you're making progress at interpreting things :) | 13:37 |
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attah | oookay.. so it turns out qml messes shit up if objects don't start with a capital letter | 13:56 |
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attah | so what's the proper way to print to console from c++? stream to qDebug() deosn't work | 14:03 |
Venemo | attah: qDebug() << "hello world" | 14:03 |
Venemo | worksforme | 14:03 |
attah | qDebug() << "lolol"; doesn't work.. however the exit(7) on the line after works fine | 14:04 |
Venemo | well, it should work | 14:04 |
attah | just my luck.. | 14:04 |
Venemo | attah: if it's of any help, I can offer you to take a look at my code | 14:04 |
attah | Venemo: sure, thanks! | 14:05 |
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Venemo | attah: https://github.com/Venemo/puzzle-master/blob/master/main.cpp#L146 | 14:05 |
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Venemo | attah: you can take a look at the rest of the code as well. it doesn't use Silica, but it's based on Qt, QML :) | 14:09 |
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attah | I'm already doing that.. but no wiser on what i f'ed up | 14:09 |
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khertan_ | Re | 14:10 |
khertan_ | Stskeeps, ping | 14:10 |
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attah | blaaarrgh qDebug("xyz") works, so i'll just change to that | 14:21 |
proyvind | [A[B,[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B | 14:22 |
proyvind | +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | 14:22 |
proyvind | + | 14:22 |
* lbt waves to proyvind's cat ... | 14:23 | |
stephg | heh | 14:24 |
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Yaniel | almost mistook this for #haskell | 14:28 |
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matoking | This may be an unrelated issue but xdg-open but doesn't seem to recognize mp4 and mkv video files | 14:32 |
Yaniel | mkv confirmed | 14:38 |
Yaniel | shows up & plays fine in gallery, but xdg says "no method available dor opening <file>" | 14:39 |
Yaniel | I guess it is a matter of registering the filetype | 14:39 |
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attah | i'm a a bit bad at interpreting the import guidelines.. but using QCryptographicHash in c++ should be ok since it's part of QtCore, right? | 14:53 |
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Master-Passeli | hi everyone | 15:01 |
Master-Passeli | yesterday i tryed to get list of gst capabilities on Jolla phone by running gst-inspect but it seems to hang and take about 100% CPU | 15:02 |
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attah | Did it crash..? mine did.. at least on an earlier version | 15:06 |
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Master-Passeli | no it did not crash but just keeps running forever | 15:06 |
Master-Passeli | SDK emulator seems to crash to segfault | 15:07 |
Master-Passeli | my phones version is newest maadajävri | 15:07 |
Master-Passeli | gst-inspect gives some output but not everything | 15:07 |
attah | funky.. unfortunately i have no idea how to troubleshoot | 15:08 |
attah | maybe stskeeps would know something | 15:10 |
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Stskeeps | Master-Passeli: http://pastie.org/8626507 | 15:11 |
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Master-Passeli | Stskeeps: thank you very much | 15:21 |
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Master-Passeli | Stskeeps: can i ask is Jolla's camera gstreamer pipeline opensource and available somewhere? | 15:22 |
Stskeeps | Master-Passeli: not currently | 15:23 |
Stskeeps | what'd you like to do with it? | 15:23 |
Master-Passeli | Stskeeps: i was thinking to try code a digital video stabilizator element for jolla's video camera | 15:24 |
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Master-Passeli | i might need pipeline to insert my own element in bin | 15:24 |
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Stskeeps | hmm, i'm not really skilled to tell if that's possible or not, but, https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-gst-interfaces/blob/master/gst-libs/gst/interfaces/nemovideotexture.h may or may not help | 15:28 |
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mornfall | yo | 15:33 |
Master-Passeli | Stskeeps: thank you. i'll take a look of that code | 15:34 |
mornfall | is there a way to get the SDK in a form that is not an installer? | 15:34 |
mornfall | I get, Exception while loading the component script: '://metadata//org.merproject/installscript.qs | 15:34 |
mornfall | TypeError: Result of expression 'id' [undefined] is not an object. | 15:34 |
mornfall | Backtrace: <anonymous>()@://metadata//org.merproject/installscript.qs:76' | 15:34 |
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kaltsi | mornfall: no other way is available.. what is your host? win/max/linux, whic os version? | 15:36 |
mornfall | kaltsi: bummer then... I'm on nixos (linux) | 15:37 |
mornfall | I mean, I could boot Ubuntu in vbox, but running a VM inside a VM sounds rather kinky | 15:38 |
kaltsi | I'm unfamiliar with that distro | 15:38 |
mornfall | that's not unexpected, the problem isn't the distro though, but the extremely opaque "here a binary installer" | 15:38 |
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mornfall | (and I also don't see a list of requirements besides virtualbox, but the binary clearly links a bunch of system libraries) | 15:39 |
kaltsi | can you give me more info about your linux.. kernel, compiler, glibc, 32/64bit? | 15:40 |
mornfall | 64b, 3.10.10, glibc 2.17, built with gcc 4.6.3 | 15:41 |
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Stskeeps | Master-Passeli: we have a zero copy camera so the buffers are android native buffers | 15:41 |
mornfall | kaltsi: I expect the problem is in a non-FHS directory layout | 15:42 |
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kaltsi | mornfall: hmm we have a known issue like this: If your /home dir has room and / does not then installer will complain. Solution: pre-create the destination directory and the installer will continue. | 15:43 |
kaltsi | I haven't seen that myself, so it might not be applicable | 15:44 |
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mornfall | kaltsi: don't think that's the problem, I get the error on hitting the first "next" in the wizard | 15:44 |
mornfall | also can't see anything obvious going wrong in strace | 15:45 |
kaltsi | can you run the installer with -v (verbose) option and save the logs and send them to me by e-mail? | 15:45 |
Master-Passeli | Stskeeps: ok, well at first i probably write my own pipeline for testing and plugin development. inserting that plugin into a real pipeline is not a issue yet. | 15:46 |
Master-Passeli | (if ever) :D this is just a hobby thing :) | 15:46 |
mornfall | kaltsi: also, the installer tries to stat a bunch of suspect stuff like /proc/1/exe? | 15:47 |
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mornfall | kaltsi: complains a lot about Unable to open translated license file. Using untranslated fallback. | 15:49 |
mornfall | kaltsi: http://pastebin.dqd.cz/MrCe/ is the full output | 15:49 |
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mornfall | (the SHA is different because I had to patch the ELF interpreter path) | 15:50 |
kaltsi | hmm what's the path for you? | 15:51 |
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mornfall | what kind of path? | 15:51 |
mornfall | oh | 15:51 |
kaltsi | elf interpreter | 15:51 |
mornfall | /nix/store/zpr8jdx10napidkyz62f3nzl5fm87jyr-glibc-2.17/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 | 15:51 |
mornfall | does it matter? :) | 15:52 |
kaltsi | dunno :) | 15:52 |
kaltsi | the installer is made with the Qt installer framework.. that's all I know about it | 15:52 |
mornfall | well, installscript.qs is doing something fishy, probably comes from the sdk not from qt | 15:52 |
kaltsi | var id = installer.execute("/usr/bin/which", ["id"])[0]; | 15:52 |
kaltsi | there's that at least | 15:53 |
mornfall | that's kinda stupid :-) | 15:53 |
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mornfall | PATH exists for a reason | 15:53 |
kaltsi | yes.. something to fix then, thank you | 15:53 |
kaltsi | looks like it only calls /usr/bin/which with a path | 15:54 |
kaltsi | afaik | 15:54 |
mornfall | btw. which is an optional component on many systems | 15:55 |
mornfall | (comes in an extra package and all that... probably common, I didn't check LSB if it's required by that) | 15:55 |
kaltsi | cool | 15:56 |
mornfall | no, which is not in LSB either | 15:56 |
mornfall | http://www.linuxbase.org/navigator/browse/command.php check this for what commands you can run (more or less) safely | 15:56 |
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kaltsi | can you make an /usr/bin/which symlink or something to check if there are more failures? | 15:57 |
mornfall | yup, it managed to not crash with /usr/bin/which | 15:58 |
mornfall | I need to clear up a little space, hang on | 15:59 |
mornfall | :-) | 15:59 |
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mornfall | kaltsi: I had to patch up some binaries it installs and directly runs, but luckily it has a retry button so I got as far as this | 16:08 |
mornfall | kaltsi: Execution failed(Unexpected exit code: 1): "/run/current-system/sw/bin/VBoxManage modifyvm SailfishOS Emulator --ostype Linux26 --memory 1024 --vram 128 --ioapic on --pae on --audio pulse --audiocontroller ac97 --nic1 nat --nictype1 virtio --natpf1 guestssh,tcp,127.0.0.1,2223,,22 --nic2 intnet --intnet2 sailfishsdk --nictype2 virtio --macaddress2 08005A110001 --bioslogodisplaytime 1" | 16:08 |
mornfall | VBoxManage works though, and the installer did create 2 images in my VirtualBox | 16:08 |
kaltsi | if you run that command manually, does it tell you anything more? | 16:10 |
kaltsi | which virtualbox version do you have btw? | 16:10 |
mornfall | yeah, after I fix quoting I get VBoxManage: error: Invalid --audio argument 'pulse' | 16:10 |
kaltsi | ok.. I've heard that problem before | 16:10 |
mornfall | 4.2.16 | 16:11 |
kaltsi | that's recent enough | 16:11 |
mornfall | well, I ran it without --audio and told the installer to ignore the problem | 16:12 |
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mornfall | I can tweak the settings in virtualbox I guess | 16:12 |
mornfall | it went through | 16:12 |
kaltsi | yes, it's not critical but you probably won't get any audio | 16:12 |
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kaltsi | which binaries did you have to patch btw.. can something be done to that in the installer? | 16:13 |
kaltsi | hum well it's about the ELF interpreter again I guess | 16:14 |
mornfall | yes | 16:14 |
mornfall | you probably don't need to worry about that | 16:14 |
kaltsi | and the only way to help you is to make the sources available | 16:15 |
mornfall | well, that'd definitely help :) | 16:15 |
kaltsi | yep.. those will be out eventually | 16:16 |
mornfall | OK, I have QtCreator running, I guess that's something :) | 16:16 |
kaltsi | minor yay | 16:16 |
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mornfall | Well, it seems to work but I don't have the SailfishOS template. Brb. | 16:20 |
PeterPark | the QCompass.reading.azimuth should deliver real, however there are only ints coming through to QML.. I never got any 276.5 only 276 .. Is this by design? | 16:21 |
mornfall | (It does show the tutorial though, so it can see *some* of its data...) | 16:21 |
kaltsi | mornfall: do you have a $HOME/.config directory? | 16:23 |
mornfall | kaltsi: yes | 16:23 |
mornfall | and ~/.config/SailfishAlpha3 is in there too | 16:23 |
kaltsi | mornfall: good.. could you close qtcreator, rm -rf that SailfishAlpha3 dir and start qtc again | 16:24 |
mornfall | just tried, didn't quite help | 16:24 |
mornfall | (well, I mv'd it away) | 16:24 |
kaltsi | mornfall: if it's still buggy, the SailfishAlpha3 dir contains some xml files that have paths.. | 16:24 |
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mornfall | it wants to update, let's try that first | 16:28 |
kaltsi | it will download a new qtcreator | 16:28 |
kaltsi | there's a fix to application output logs, but nothing more | 16:29 |
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mornfall | kaltsi: Supported Platforms: Desktop (in new project, rightmost column) -- could this be the problem? | 16:35 |
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kaltsi | it should offer the sailfish application template | 16:38 |
kaltsi | for me it says Supported Platforms: Mer | 16:38 |
mornfall | yup, problem found | 16:39 |
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mornfall | in /home/mornfall/.config/SailfishAlpha3/mer-sdk-tools/MerSDK/SailfishOS-i486-x86/gcc the #! is set to /bin/bash (should be /bin/sh and $@ in that script is missing quotes, btw.) | 16:40 |
mornfall | possibly other scripts too | 16:40 |
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kaltsi | hmm I wonder if that can cause the missing template in new project dialog.. the arg handling in those scripts has been change, but they still do call bash | 16:44 |
mornfall | yes it can, because qtcreator can't run the script and figures the platform doesn't work | 16:44 |
mornfall | the emulator runs now too :) | 16:45 |
kaltsi | changing the scripts to /bin/sh works for you? | 16:45 |
mornfall | nah, they have to work on the first run otherwise something in .config breaks and the templates never show up | 16:46 |
mornfall | and the scripts reside in the same .config | 16:46 |
kaltsi | hum | 16:46 |
mornfall | so I made a /bin/bash symlink for now | 16:46 |
mornfall | deploying the app into the emulator works as well, I guess I'm good to go | 16:48 |
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kaltsi | I'll make a pull req to change the /bin/bashes to /bin/sh | 16:49 |
mornfall | thanks | 16:49 |
mornfall | (but you probably want to double check that none of the scripts contain bashisms, as /bin/sh is not bash on some systems) | 16:50 |
kaltsi | yep | 16:50 |
mornfall | seems they are simple wrappers so shouldn't be a problem | 16:50 |
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mornfall | kaltsi: thanks for your help | 17:07 |
kaltsi | mornfall: yq, thanks for the input... we have very limited testing environments, so some users will be the first to test some environments :) | 17:08 |
kaltsi | s/yq/yw | 17:08 |
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alight | anyone in? | 17:42 |
valdur55 | yes. | 17:42 |
alight | I think I heard the sailfish UI isn't open source, is that so? | 17:43 |
Yaniel | yes | 17:43 |
Yaniel | for now | 17:43 |
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Yaniel | they said they are working on opening that as much as they can, but for now it is closed | 17:44 |
alight | I was thinking about skinning the ui, I'm thinking that might make it harder | 17:44 |
alight | or would it still be possible? | 17:45 |
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rcg | aint the silica components open source? | 18:09 |
rcg | wouldn't that help in skinning | 18:09 |
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alight | I don't know, I didn't get my device yet so I have not looked into it that much yet | 18:10 |
alight | I'll have to see how much free time I can spare on the project too but it's nice to know the possibilites :) | 18:13 |
fk_lx | rcg: qml part is open source of those components | 18:14 |
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alight | and with qml I could play around with layout, styling and animations, right? | 18:20 |
alight | I had a look at qml when I got my N9 and it looked simple enough | 18:20 |
tbr | alight: just install the SDK and play around with it | 18:21 |
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smokex | I liked designing my gui graphically.. which doesn't play well with QML | 18:23 |
smokex | at least not yet | 18:23 |
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John24 | hey guys | 18:32 |
John24 | what's the best way to go throw elemets from responseXML.documentElement;? | 18:33 |
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coderus | XmlListModel? | 18:38 |
John24 | I want to avoid it as I would need to package it with the rmp | 18:38 |
coderus | XmlListModel is base component built in system :) | 18:39 |
John24 | oh really? | 18:40 |
John24 | I will check now | 18:40 |
coderus | of course | 18:40 |
coderus | its just a model :) | 18:40 |
John24 | how would I use it properly with my fucntion? http://pastebin.com/WnCXs6PT | 18:41 |
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coderus | F1 - XmlListModel :) | 18:42 |
coderus | its easy queries from xml tree | 18:43 |
John24 | thank you I shall read all about now it | 18:44 |
John24 | it now | 18:44 |
smokex | that sounds eerily like java | 18:45 |
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John24 | pople give both examples which one is right? xmlModel.xml = httpReq.responseXML xmlModel.xml = httpReq.responseText | 18:49 |
John24 | xmlModel is my id of my model | 18:49 |
John24 | I am just not sure if to use httpReq.responseXML or httpReq.responseText | 18:49 |
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coderus | do you really need this? | 18:54 |
John24 | well I pull the xml information from a webpage http://localhost:8080/requests/status.xml | 18:54 |
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coderus | xmlModel.source: "http://request-site.com/path/to/something&query=awesome" | 18:54 |
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coderus | then do xmlModel.source: "/home/nemo/.mozilla/mozembed/prefs.js" | 18:55 |
coderus | wrong clipboard | 18:55 |
coderus | xmlModel.source: "http://localhost:8080/requests/status.xml" | 18:55 |
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John24 | and I want to read ithow do I pass authentialtion? | 18:55 |
John24 | httpReq.setRequestHeader("Authorization", "Basic " + Qt.btoa(username + ":" + password)); | 18:55 |
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John24 | to get the xml user needs to pass username and passworkd that is why i am using XMLHttpRequest() | 18:56 |
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coderus | aha, if you need authorization you need to use httpRequest :) | 18:58 |
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John24 | it's never that easy :) | 18:59 |
John24 | and I am getting the error again: module "QtQuick.XmlListModel" is not installed import QtQuick.XmlListModel 2.0 | 18:59 |
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coderus | xmlModel.xml = httpReq.responseText | 19:01 |
coderus | install it | 19:02 |
coderus | add to requires | 19:02 |
coderus | qt5-qtdeclarative-import-xmllistmodel | 19:02 |
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John24 | I guess i got a problem because i did this yesterday as well | 19:03 |
John24 | and it shows their are insalled | 19:03 |
coderus | install on device | 19:03 |
coderus | add to package requires to install automatically | 19:04 |
John24 | by device you mean my Jolla or the emulator? | 19:06 |
John24 | I'm sorry for being a noob this is all new to me | 19:07 |
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virtapoika_ | Hi | 19:12 |
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virtapoika_ | I have a problem with building my Sailfish app to rpm. The reference at the sailfishos.org is a bit messy so if someone could tell simply what to do. | 19:13 |
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John24 | you see a debug button above build? | 19:15 |
John24 | in Qt creator | 19:15 |
John24 | well it be a release or debug | 19:15 |
virtapoika_ | Yeah, I have pressed debug-"deploy as rm package" | 19:17 |
virtapoika_ | *rpm | 19:18 |
John24 | shoudl have same thing as me here http://i.imgur.com/fsCwu6n.png | 19:19 |
virtapoika_ | There's no rpm package at myproject/rpm. Only .spec and .yaml | 19:20 |
coderus | John24: no matter | 19:20 |
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coderus | just add it to depends and it will be installed automatically | 19:20 |
entil | what's the best way to get qDebug() output on the phone somewhere? | 19:21 |
entil | stupid app of mine works on the emulator but not the phone :E | 19:21 |
John24 | ok I will try | 19:22 |
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John24 | coderus yep it worked when deploying to phone | 19:23 |
* coderus Zzzz.... | 19:25 | |
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virtapoika_ | I'm now trying to add my Jolla to my qt's devices. I have ubuntu 13.10 and Jolla is in the development mode/ssh enabled/password set. I still get timeout error | 19:26 |
virtapoika_ | When trying to add my phone | 19:27 |
John24 | you need to have your ip address as 192.168.2.wharever | 19:27 |
virtapoika_ | Yyeah, I've used it | 19:28 |
virtapoika_ | and checked it various times | 19:28 |
John24 | what's your ip now? | 19:28 |
virtapoika_ | 192.168.2.15 | 19:28 |
virtapoika_ | default | 19:29 |
John24 | I mean what's your pcs Ip address | 19:29 |
John24 | local ip | 19:29 |
virtapoika_ | 91.154.101.38 It is something like this (using ifconfig command) | 19:29 |
Turski | virtapoika_: give ip for usb0 interface | 19:30 |
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Turski | "ip a add 192.168.2.14/24 dev usb0" for example | 19:30 |
virtapoika_ | yeah | 19:30 |
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virtapoika_ | My computer won't show it | 19:30 |
Turski | virtapoika_: did you do that? | 19:31 |
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Turski | on your pc | 19:31 |
Turski | sounds like you didn't | 19:31 |
virtapoika_ | wow sorry, I didn't read it correctly | 19:31 |
virtapoika_ | done | 19:31 |
Turski | then ssh nemo@192.168.2.15 | 19:32 |
virtapoika_ | I've logged in | 19:32 |
Turski | grats | 19:32 |
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virtapoika_ | still the same problem in qt | 19:34 |
virtapoika_ | ... | 19:34 |
virtapoika_ | should I use the port 22? | 19:34 |
Yaniel | 22 is the default ssh port | 19:34 |
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Yaniel | so if qtc should ssh somewhere, probably yes | 19:35 |
virtapoika_ | yeah, but it doesn't work | 19:35 |
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virtapoika_ | I think my problem has something to do with mtp+ubuntu problems | 19:37 |
virtapoika_ | I have several times tried to use my jolla (and galaxy tab2) as an usb mass storage but it always shows an error like "can't connect bla bla bla" | 19:38 |
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simple_dev | @virtapoika: are you having trouble connecting your jolla to your computer? | 19:39 |
virtapoika_ | yes | 19:40 |
simple_dev | you said something about Ubuntu...what version are you using? | 19:40 |
virtapoika_ | 13.10 | 19:41 |
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simple_dev | hmm...odd, I got my phone to connect via USB in 13.04 | 19:41 |
Yaniel | why bother with mtp | 19:42 |
Yaniel | since you can have sshfs | 19:42 |
virtapoika_ | okay, I'm now trying to install some mtp libraries | 19:42 |
Yaniel | (unless you don't want to enable developer mode) | 19:43 |
simple_dev | I remember having to install the "usb-modeswitch" package in some version of Ubuntu when trying to connect some device... | 19:43 |
virtapoika_ | I'll try that | 19:44 |
simple_dev | ...apparently I already have usb-modeswitch installed. Perhaps it's installed by default in newer versions... | 19:45 |
entil | think I found something for qDebug.. http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtcore/qdebug.html so I should be able to give it a QIODevice | 19:45 |
entil | or more to the point QFile, which inherits from QFileDevice whatever that inherits from QIODevice | 19:46 |
simple_dev | But as Yanial said, SSH through developer mode is easy if you have a wifi router | 19:46 |
virtapoika_ | yeah it should be but it doesn't work either | 19:46 |
Yaniel | as is using the cable, once the interface is configured | 19:46 |
Yaniel | which on linux is like 2 commands | 19:47 |
entil | but it says "no matching function for call to 'QMessageLogger::debug(QFile&)'" :/ | 19:47 |
virtapoika_ | Should I have some settings enabled on my router to use ssh jolla-mycomputer? | 19:47 |
virtapoika_ | otherwise I use ssh right now to control my rpi | 19:48 |
Yaniel | it should allow tcp connections to port 22 ;) | 19:48 |
Yaniel | what does it say when you try to ssh to the jolla? | 19:48 |
virtapoika_ | Timeout error | 19:49 |
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Yaniel | hm | 19:49 |
virtapoika_ | yeah I know | 19:49 |
virtapoika_ | hmmhmm | 19:49 |
Yaniel | and developer mode shows an ip address in settings? | 19:49 |
virtapoika_ | ;D | 19:49 |
virtapoika_ | yeah | 19:49 |
simple_dev | what is the local ip of the phone? | 19:50 |
simple_dev | should be 192.168.0.something? | 19:50 |
virtapoika_ | 192.168.10.107 Interesting part in my story is that my default gateway is something like 91.154... but it is not my public ip | 19:50 |
simple_dev | ...and you are trying to connect with "nemo@192.168.0.something"? | 19:50 |
virtapoika_ | yeah | 19:50 |
virtapoika_ | no | 19:50 |
virtapoika_ | nemo@192.168.10.107 | 19:50 |
virtapoika_ | I have been thinking to call my network provider | 19:51 |
Yaniel | 91.154... sounds weird | 19:51 |
virtapoika_ | yeah | 19:51 |
virtapoika_ | absolutely weird | 19:51 |
virtapoika_ | And I can't even connect to my routers "settings page" | 19:52 |
Yaniel | does ip addr show anything useful? | 19:52 |
Yaniel | that sounds definitely wrong | 19:52 |
simple_dev | have you tried if the same thing happens on a friends router? | 19:52 |
virtapoika_ | No I haven't | 19:52 |
virtapoika_ | My network provider gave me a new router week ago | 19:53 |
virtapoika_ | before the new one I never had any problems with ssh | 19:53 |
simple_dev | sound like it might be something with the router then | 19:53 |
virtapoika_ | yeah | 19:53 |
simple_dev | it should have some sort of control panel where you can see how strict the settings are (what type of connections are allowed, ports, etc) | 19:54 |
virtapoika_ | yeah, I have portforwarded BEFORE | 19:54 |
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virtapoika_ | I'll call tomorrow to my network providers support | 19:55 |
simple_dev | I guess that is best | 19:55 |
simple_dev | Since you appear to use the right commands and all, I don't really know where to begin if the problem is with the router | 19:56 |
virtapoika_ | Yep ;) From thing to another: How can I build locally .rmp file? | 19:56 |
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simple_dev | the IDE has a button with the sailfish logo just above the green "run" arrow | 19:57 |
simple_dev | from there, you can choose debug or release and what type of build you would like | 19:57 |
virtapoika_ | yeah I've setted it to release-deploy as rpm | 19:57 |
virtapoika_ | And my app runs on emulator | 19:58 |
virtapoika_ | but where can I find the .rpm file | 19:58 |
simple_dev | By default... | 19:59 |
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simple_dev | I think it creates a folder named something like build-yourappname-MerSDK-sailfishos-something-release | 19:59 |
simple_dev | ...in the same directory as you app | 19:59 |
virtapoika_ | yeah I found it | 20:00 |
virtapoika_ | should I now make it | 20:00 |
virtapoika_ | command "make" | 20:00 |
virtapoika_ | there's makefile | 20:00 |
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simple_dev | there should be another folder called "RPMS" where you'll find the rmp packages | 20:01 |
simple_dev | it should contain multiple packages | 20:01 |
virtapoika_ | Found it | 20:01 |
virtapoika_ | it is I586 architecture | 20:02 |
simple_dev | the "real" one is the one that doesn't have things like debuginfo/source/test/ in the name | 20:02 |
virtapoika_ | (y) | 20:02 |
simple_dev | = the one that should be submitted to harbour...if that is what you intend | 20:02 |
virtapoika_ | Yeah | 20:02 |
virtapoika_ | But does the i586 app work? | 20:02 |
virtapoika_ | Jolla is Arm powered device | 20:03 |
simple_dev | oh...right | 20:03 |
simple_dev | you should use the MerSDK-SailfishOS-armv7hl kit in the IDE when you make the release package | 20:04 |
virtapoika_ | I need to set a device for the arm kit | 20:05 |
simple_dev | I added a MER arm device = my jolla phone, and used that for debugging | 20:06 |
virtapoika_ | Yep and there's my problem | 20:06 |
simple_dev | ...but I don't know if a working device is actually needed...you may just need to add "some" device | 20:06 |
virtapoika_ | haha :D | 20:07 |
simple_dev | after all, you just need to build it, not run it | 20:07 |
virtapoika_ | yeah | 20:07 |
simple_dev | but basically, you should build it using the arm-kit, and then just get the right rpm | 20:08 |
simple_dev | or that's what I did anyways...I'm not really an expert on this | 20:08 |
virtapoika_ | Okay, I got it Thanks! | 20:08 |
simple_dev | ...but I DID get my app to the store anyways | 20:09 |
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virtapoika_ | I'll try to use i586 on my jolla | 20:09 |
simple_dev | Did you get it to build using the arm-kit? | 20:09 |
virtapoika_ | Nope :( | 20:10 |
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simple_dev | it doesn't work if you just add the kit and set up a "fake" arm device? | 20:10 |
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virtapoika_ | No :( It needs Jolla to be connected | 20:11 |
simple_dev | darn...then I don't really know...I had my jolla connected to the IDE at the time | 20:13 |
virtapoika_ | okay | 20:13 |
virtapoika_ | Thanks anyway for everything | 20:13 |
simple_dev | ...but I would assume that you could BUILD the app without running it on the device | 20:13 |
simple_dev | Sure, no problem | 20:13 |
virtapoika_ | Do you have dropbox | 20:13 |
virtapoika_ | Installed on pc/phone? | 20:14 |
virtapoika_ | because I have a problem with my all devices (tablet, pc, phone) to connect dropbox | 20:14 |
virtapoika_ | web interface works | 20:14 |
virtapoika_ | and I've used 3g and wlan | 20:14 |
simple_dev | Um...no, I don't actually use it... | 20:15 |
virtapoika_ | okay | 20:15 |
simple_dev | Perhaps they have some problems...I think dropbox was hacked a few days ago? | 20:15 |
virtapoika_ | Yeah, I assume something like that | 20:16 |
simple_dev | Changing topic: does anybody know how to bind a function to the on screen keyboard's "return" button? | 20:16 |
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jpnurmi | TextField { EnterKey.onClicked: { doSomething() } } | 20:17 |
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virtapoika_ | yeah I remembered something like that | 20:18 |
walokra | virtapoika_: dropbox wasn't hacked but they're experiencing some problems | 20:19 |
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virtapoika_ | Oh okay :) Thanks @Walokra | 20:20 |
simple_dev | yeah that might be the case...I just remembered reading something about dropbox being down and some hackers claiming responsibility for it | 20:20 |
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simple_dev | anyways, I suppose that's a bit off topic... | 20:21 |
simple_dev | Was there anybody around who know their way around the on-screen keyboard (programming)? | 20:24 |
virtapoika_ | TextField { EnterKey.onClicked: { doSomething() } } | 20:25 |
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virtapoika_ | copyed from jpnurmi | 20:26 |
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simple_dev | @virtapoika: yes, I tried that...but the IDE gave me an "invalid property name 'EnterKey' " error | 20:29 |
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walokra | it says that but it works | 20:30 |
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jpnurmi | simple_dev: https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-enterkey.html | 20:33 |
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simple_dev | argh...so it does! Stupid of me not to actually TEST it | 20:34 |
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simple_dev | Well...that takes care of that! Thank you! | 20:35 |
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rcg | Elleo, ping | 20:39 |
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Elleo | rcg: pong? | 20:42 |
rcg | hey Elleo | 20:43 |
Elleo | heya | 20:43 |
rcg | you are the developer of rockwatch, right? | 20:43 |
Elleo | rcg: yep | 20:43 |
rcg | i guess you are using the pebble python lib for interfacing with the watch? | 20:43 |
rcg | i got a pebble heading in my direction and am pretty interested in some experiments with that :) | 20:44 |
Elleo | rcg: yeah, although with a few patches from the official release to stop it using crazy amounts of cpu and adding httpebble support | 20:44 |
Elleo | dunno if any of that's been fixed with the new version of the 2.0 beta though | 20:44 |
rcg | and my first idea is to create something like qt/qml bindings for interfacing with the watch | 20:44 |
tbr | rcg: btw, got your package working on OBS, was very easy, ripped out the binaries ;) | 20:45 |
rcg | i.e., re-writing what the python pebble lib does based on qts' bluetooth stack | 20:45 |
rcg | tbr, yay, cool :D | 20:45 |
Elleo | rcg: that'd be cool | 20:45 |
rcg | tbr, so qca-qt5 is available in that sailfish target? | 20:45 |
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Elleo | libpebble isn't exactly a bastion of great python | 20:46 |
rcg | Elleo, wanted to ask you if you are interested in something like that as well :) | 20:46 |
tbr | rebuilt that by copypac from nemo | 20:46 |
Elleo | so having a more portable and better written c++ lib would be nice | 20:46 |
rcg | tbr, ah great, thanks :) | 20:46 |
Elleo | not something I'm likely to have a massive amount of time to dedicate to helping out with though I'm afraid | 20:46 |
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rcg | Elleo, the mid- to long-term goal would be to have an own lib for interfacing pebble entirely written in qt/qml | 20:47 |
tbr | rcg: stuff is here https://build.merproject.org/project/packages?project=home%3Atbr%3Asailfish | 20:47 |
Elleo | although I might hit another dry spell workwise at some point I guess, I'm pretty booked up for the next few months | 20:47 |
rcg | Elleo, the short-term goal would be to have something one can copy paste into a project and build as part of that project | 20:47 |
rcg | Elleo, sure, the same holds for me :) | 20:47 |
tbr | I wonder if it wouldn't be easier to add pebble support to SOWatch | 20:48 |
rcg | Elleo, just wanted to give you a heads up about my plans.. and well, i have to see as well how much time i can dedicate into this ;) | 20:48 |
tbr | problem is: it's not ported to Qt5 yet | 20:48 |
rcg | tbr, thanks for the link :) | 20:48 |
Elleo | yeah, sowatch might be another good option; I'd avoid doing anything with that due to not wanting to rewrite libpebble, but if someone else fancies doing that... ;) | 20:49 |
rcg | tbr, hmm, i see.. well, i just wanted to start very simple by just tinkering around a little and looking at what libpebble does | 20:49 |
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Elleo | avoided* | 20:49 |
rcg | and, well, similar to Elleo i only have very limited time for such play-things | 20:49 |
tbr | yeah, so do I | 20:50 |
tbr | (or else I'd have figured out sowatch for sailfish, and I need it urgently) | 20:50 |
rcg | but from my past experience writing qzeecontrol (interact with zeemote bluetooth remote control) doing bluetooth stuff with qt was fairly easy | 20:50 |
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rcg | but well, i first need the parcel to arrive here ;) | 20:51 |
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rcg | Elleo, tbr i can ping you guys when i have something like a prototype working :) | 20:52 |
* tbr has a metawatch anyway :) | 20:52 | |
Elleo | rcg: sure, I'd be interested in that | 20:52 |
rcg | tbr, :) | 20:52 |
rcg | tbr, how satisfied are you with that one? | 20:53 |
tbr | pure awesome | 20:53 |
rcg | i was considering metawatch or pebble and went with pebble for now, for, well i dunno recall the very reason anymore :) | 20:53 |
rcg | cool :) | 20:53 |
tbr | it's a real watch on the outside, solid steel, hard glass, msp430 inside | 20:53 |
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rcg | yeah, it looks very nice indeed | 20:54 |
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rcg | tbr, can you use it with the n9 or jolla? | 20:55 |
tbr | yes, still have my N950 around because of that | 20:55 |
rcg | great :) | 20:56 |
attah | n950.. *drool* | 20:59 |
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tbr | attah: by nowadays standards, it sucks | 21:08 |
attah | tbr: true.. still cool though... I stuck with my N9 until the Jolla arrived, and I'll keep my other N9 as a work phone for at least another year, probably more | 21:10 |
* tbr has a jolla work phone and a private jolla, much better. ;) | 21:11 | |
attah | do you have an other half that connects your other jolla? :P | 21:11 |
* Stskeeps has jolla work phones and baby jollas | 21:12 | |
Stskeeps | well, baby sailfish | 21:12 |
attah | please do elaborate.. | 21:12 |
Stskeeps | when they grow up, they'll be real sailfish devices | 21:12 |
Stskeeps | :P | 21:12 |
attah | Stskeeps: you sure know how to get us interested ;) | 21:13 |
rcg | Stskeeps, then feed em well :) | 21:13 |
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attah | not too much though.. unless it's going to grow to a tablet.. hmm | 21:14 |
Stskeeps | what'd you want in a sailfish tablet, ooi? | 21:15 |
attah | Display on par with others.. HW so that UX is better.. not that hard ;).. not the lol-margins on top/bottom like nexus7.. | 21:17 |
Stskeeps | resolution? | 21:17 |
attah | yes, 1080 for a 9 inch maybe | 21:18 |
ShadowJK | Front-facing stereo speakers. | 21:18 |
attah | really as long as it's sailfish and the UX scales in "power" when you increase the size I'm ordering before it comes out | 21:18 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 21:21 |
attah | I ordered *before* jollaloveday and still didn't get invited to finland :( | 21:21 |
Nicd- | when was jolla love day? | 21:22 |
attah | may some time | 21:22 |
Nicd- | I think all the 450 ordered the same day ordering started | 21:22 |
* Stskeeps didn't go to jolla love day | 21:22 | |
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attah | yeah.. i ordered like 11 and the event was at 19 | 21:23 |
attah | so "day" might have been misleading | 21:23 |
attah | +/- time zone diff | 21:24 |
Stskeeps | i however have magnificient pictures of the launch queue from above | 21:24 |
Stskeeps | :P | 21:24 |
attah | Stskeeps: are you god? | 21:25 |
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lpotter | attah: he was just in creative mode | 21:25 |
lpotter | where you can fly | 21:25 |
attah | lol | 21:25 |
Stskeeps | no, but omniscience would be helpful in my job | 21:25 |
attah | your results seem to indicate some degree of it though.. | 21:26 |
attah | btw.. any chance of minecraft on jolla? | 21:26 |
Stskeeps | i bought minecraft PE from amazon app store at least | 21:26 |
attah | but isn't PE 'tard-mode? | 21:27 |
Stskeeps | .. no clue | 21:27 |
attah | maybe they improved it | 21:27 |
attah | but performance was good? | 21:28 |
Stskeeps | i must admit i only bought it to test payment functionality working | 21:28 |
Stskeeps | :P | 21:28 |
lpotter | mym kids are mindcraft crazed | 21:28 |
attah | oh well there could be worse companies getting your money ;) | 21:29 |
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attah | Where can I see which icons a the should provide? | 21:33 |
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Hartzi | hey, are there any good examples how to use nokia here map api in own app? | 22:07 |
tbr | hmm is there an app api? | 22:08 |
Hartzi | I think there is | 22:09 |
Hartzi | I found this: https://github.com/otsaloma/helsinki-transit-live/tree/master/qml | 22:10 |
Hartzi | It seems that it reguires some sort of a key to use here map in own app. | 22:11 |
Hartzi | but I dont have any idea how to get one | 22:11 |
tbr | ahhhh, so it doesn't use the sailfish stuff, but directly uses HERE | 22:12 |
Hartzi | yes it seems so | 22:13 |
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John24 | is anyone here good at reading xml tables? | 22:27 |
Yaniel | hrr, xml | 22:27 |
John24 | I am trying to read filename from this <information><category name="meta"><info name="setting"> HAS_INDEX IS_INTERLEAVED</info><info name="filename">Despicable Me (2010) BDRip</info> | 22:27 |
John24 | using this : XmlRole{ name: "filename"; query: "information/category/info/@filename/string()"} | 22:27 |
John24 | but it seems to be wrong | 22:28 |
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John24 | ok here with tabs so looks readable: http://pastebin.com/vx0MBB32 | 22:29 |
John24 | sorry that's the proper one: http://pastebin.com/ZcC7qKGe | 22:31 |
Elleo | John24: the attribute in your example is name | 22:31 |
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Elleo | but in your query you've got @filename | 22:31 |
Elleo | "filename" is the contents of that attribute in the example | 22:31 |
John24 | ohh i see so I would need to change the xmlrole to look for name? but how would i know i found the filename? | 22:32 |
John24 | XmlRole{ name: "filename"; query: "information/category/info/name[2]/string()"} ? | 22:33 |
Elleo | I think what you mean is [@name="filename"] | 22:34 |
tbr | Hartzi: http://developer.here.com/terms-conditions-base - I suspect this is the direction? | 22:34 |
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John24 | would I need [] aroudn it? | 22:34 |
Elleo | John24: as in: information/category/info[@name="filename"] | 22:35 |
Elleo | pretty sure you would | 22:35 |
John24 | can't use "" | 22:35 |
John24 | it remotes the string | 22:35 |
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John24 | YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY | 22:36 |
Elleo | if you're using " as your quoting character in qml you can just use 's | 22:36 |
John24 | used ' ' | 22:37 |
John24 | and it's alive :)))))))))))))))))))))))))) | 22:37 |
Elleo | and if you want to use the string() function I think you want string(information/category/info[@name='filename']) | 22:37 |
John24 | once again Elleo what would I do withouth you | 22:37 |
John24 | many thank you's like always | 22:37 |
Elleo | no problem | 22:38 |
John24 | Now I am actually code my program and finish the features I planned to do weeks ago | 22:38 |
Hartzi | tbr: yes it seems so | 22:41 |
Hartzi | Error: Error while loading page: file:///opt/sdk/Kartta/usr/share/Kartta/qml/pages/MapPage.qml:3 module "QtLocation" is not installed | 22:42 |
Hartzi | :/ | 22:42 |
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tbr | Hartzi: try installing it, but might be device only | 22:57 |
Hartzi | they're not installed in virtual machine? | 22:58 |
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tbr | who knows | 22:58 |
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Hartzi | It seems so | 23:00 |
Hartzi | 3rd time x) | 23:00 |
Hartzi | works nice when run on device | 23:00 |
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Hartzi | hmm now i need to figure out how i can center my map into my coordinates | 23:03 |
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