Monday, 2014-01-20

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miksuhI'm seriously starting to tjink that Jolla should have stayi in Qt4 + Qt Mobility06:29
miksuhit's annoying that you can't use gpd, bluetooh, nfc etc06:30
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miksuhwith Qt506:31
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tbrmiksuh: I think the bt code is there, same goes for location06:36
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miksuhtbr: QtPositioning API is available, but it's not stable enough to be accepted by Harbour06:45
tbrah, harbour... that's a whole different story06:46
tbrI doubt those would be available in harbour if it would be still Qt4.806:47
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zuhWhy is API stability lame?-)06:55
tbrI don't believe it's the real reason06:56
Stskeepsfor qtpositioning it's the truth though, there's a very nice huge diff somewhere on together.* showing that a more updated qtpositioning in 5.2 is very different ABI/API06:58
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AL13Nmiksuh: there's DBUS though07:05
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supauliBTW: the emulated sailfish does not have the dbus option, but i guess one could do silly python script that pretends to feed GPS signal07:21
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lpotterstability is the reason. QtLocation/QtPositioning hasn't even been released yet. There are no guarantees the API won't change07:21
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supaulibetter: make app that can be started inside the emulator that provides the feed, that has all the options via gui, like 'set error rate'07:22
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miksuhAL13N: Any idea if it's possible to get e.list of phon cpntacts usim some dbus query?08:00
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miksuhthat would solve the problem caused by the lack of QtContacts08:01
coderusmiksuh: QContactsManager is here08:03
miksuhbecause it's not ready for harbour too08:03
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coderusif you want to go to harbout you should do simple packages like showing web page, some network operations,  easy games, fart08:34
coderusand etc.08:34
coderusyou cant make something complex for harbour now08:34
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miksuhWell I think I'll just continue developing and use QtContactsm QtPositioning etc. I'm sure some day everything will be just fine and Jolla store acceps apps using those modules etc. Sooner or later QtNfc etc will be available too08:36
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coderusmiksuh: thats better choice :)08:58
coderusif harbour wants better apps to be published it should accepth more api :)08:59
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tbrmiksuh: if your apps are open source, then feel free to submit them to the Chum community repo on OBS09:08
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hoelzrowhat is this OBS everyone keeps talking about?09:10
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Raimholkeri: Open Build Service, the instance for Mer is running here:
Raimsorry, that was for hoelzro09:12
hoelzroah, thanks Raim09:12
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coderustbr: i can push closed binary to OBS with small hacks :)09:14
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hoelzrotbr: the page that Raim link tells me I should ask you about guidelines for the chum repo?09:23
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tbrcoderus: and get banned for it09:34
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tbrhoelzro: yes, we're working those out at the moment. Do you have an app on OBS already building against the sailfish target?09:37
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hoelzrotbr: not yet; I'm still pretty new to this whole thing09:54
hoelzroI just learned exactly what OBS is 45 minutes ago =)09:54
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tbrhoelzro: ok, if you need a hand with OBS just holler. But in general it's a good starting point to have a project that builds cleanly on the SDK and then check it into a public git repo and use tar_git on the OBS side. For an example look at how the mosh package is set up.09:57
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hoelzroalright, I'll have a look09:57
jake9xxif compilation passes on sdk but fails on obs (and obs has right buildroots set) - it's a sdk bug most likely09:59
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walokrahmm, have to check out the obs10:15
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tbrjake9xx: or you didn't declare dependencies, but had them installed inside the SDK10:29
walokrahmm, obs needs spec file in rpm10:39
tbrit needs a spec file to build an rpm, yes10:40
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walokrayeah, that's reasonable. just haven't committed it to github as yaml is enough for sdk10:41
tbrnot sure if that can be automated. lbt might know10:42
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lbtwe could but don't10:42
tbrone thing to be mentioned in the sailfish-obs faq then *mentalnote*10:43
lbt*nod* we could handle it somehow but the yaml file makes it easier to maintain the spec file. OBS needs the spec to do BR calcs10:44
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kaltsialso note that yaml is not required by the SDK.. spec is enough10:45
walokraare people using obs to distribute apps or just to check if it compiles? not sure if I want to add api key to github just for obs10:45
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Sfiet_Konstantinwalokra: I'm using a library loaded in runtime containing the api key10:48
tbrwalokra: the idea is to use Chum as a community repo for QA'd app distribution10:48
Sfiet_Konstantinand I distribute the api key contained in this binary10:48
walokraSfiet_Konstantin: sounds complicated :)10:49
Sfiet_Konstantinwalokra: it is a sort of obfuscation and don't protect you much10:49
Sfiet_Konstantinbut better than nothing10:49
tbrthink community repository of open source apps, especially open for those that use APIs not yet allowed by harbour10:49
Sfiet_Konstantinwalokra: basically, a plugin loaded by QPluginLoader10:49
Sfiet_Konstantinthat's all10:49
Sfiet_Konstantinthe interface is something like virtual QString getKey() const = 0;10:49
walokratbr: that's what I was thinking10:50
tbrso yea, once your app builds on OBS, ping me and I'll (for now) do manual QA (just like harbour) and promote it to Chum10:50
tbrin the long run this should be automated a lot, with some automated tests on packages, like if they install/uninstall cleanly, etc.10:51
walokratbr: have to think about the api key first but I'm keeping that in mind10:51
joonahoii want to use chum for distributing my small apps in the future as well, but i'm thinking about the api key issue myself10:52
joonahoialso i'm developing using python, so bringing in binary blobs just for the api key seems a bit overkill10:52
tbrwalokra: you could have it on obs instead, still in the open, but less than github10:52
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joonahoialso as stated it's just an easily circumvented obfusication, so if someone wants the key, it's easily obtainable10:53
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joonahoibut wouldn't be google indexed and "up for grabs" per default however.10:53
tbrsure, but service t&cs usually ignore that and like to invalidate your key for being on VCSs10:53
walokratbr: you mean manually package tar with the key?10:54
joonahoican you suggest some other approach distributing the software api keys?10:54
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joonahoii prolly could fetch them from my server during the first start10:55
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joonahoibut that would be just adding one layer of nonsense over it11:01
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Custodiantbr: do I get it right? coderus suggests binary blob pushing to chum, and you stated that such dev will be banned from OBS. And Sfiet_Konstantin uses binary plugin, and this is ok?11:06
Sfiet_KonstantinCustodian: I'm just part binary stuff, the interesting source is free11:07
Custodian%% is not that important. in coderus example - that part was qtlocation or qtnfc plugins.11:07
Custodian( i mean that, even with api QString getAPIKey() =0; how can be verified, that there is no other hidden code inside? )11:09
joonahoiCustodian: i think coderus was sarcastically referencing to yesterdays convo about non-qa'd rpm distribution (insecurities provided by uid0 pre- and post-install hooks in rpm)11:10
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Custodianjoonahoi: thats why i asked tbr (-: he is in the flow of convo11:11
tbrCustodian: I said, that pushing a binary build without sources will get you likely banned, as this is for open source11:11
Sfiet_KonstantinCustodian: well, trust, but yeah, it is partly hidden11:11
Sfiet_Konstantinbut I don't like having my API key shown in github11:11
tbrif you are just hiding an API key from plain sight and can demonstrate that when asked, fine in my opinion11:12
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CustodianSfiet_Konstantin: i know that, that's just an example of mixing open/closed source.11:12
Sfiet_KonstantinCustodian: indeed11:13
Sfiet_Konstantinthe thing is that you cannot do fully OSS11:13
Sfiet_Konstantinfor a FB client (for example)11:13
Sfiet_Konstantinbut for many other stuff, this should be fine enough11:13
tbrif someone includes _and_ packages other libraries in their package, that's bad. (I know that harbour encourages this for certain reasons, but OBS is about open source)11:13
tbrto deal with such a harbour induced problem I employed a simple fix. let me find the link11:14
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tbrrm -rf %{buildroot}/%{_datadir}/%{name}/qca11:16
tbrRequires:   qca-qt511:16
tbrthe two changes that make this clean11:16
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tbr(and providing the actual qca-qt5 package as a proper RPM in the same repo11:22
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atlazHow much do i need to pay for someone to build an app for me?11:36
valdur55atlaz: very muhc!11:36
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atlazso monies11:36
Waiteeatlaz: what kinda app do you want?11:37
atlazWaitee: wait, i'm typing the specs11:38
Waiteei've never built an app before with qt11:39
Waiteebut im eager to try :D11:39
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Sfiet_Konstantinatlaz: what kind of app ?11:47
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atlazthat one11:48
AL13N_lappyis Dario Freddi here sometimes? or is there a #mer-dev channel someplace?11:49
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Sfiet_Konstantinatlaz: prepare money :P11:52
Sfiet_KonstantinAL13N_lappy: #mer ?11:52
AL13N_lappyi found that11:52
AL13N_lappyperhaps all devs are in#mer11:52
Sfiet_Konstantinatlaz: well, do not look to be hard, but you need to enter the kilometer count all the time11:53
Sfiet_Konstantinis this ok ?11:53
Sfiet_Konstantinor do you need the GPS to track it for you ?11:53
Sfiet_Konstantinor maybe a computer vision algo to recognize numbers ?11:53
atlazSfiet_Konstantin: The most easy is if the software tracks the trip with GPS and suggest the km:s by itself11:54
atlazWith triplog its usally of with 1 or 2 km so i can just add them easilly11:54
atlazwith the android-triplog i mean11:54
Sfiet_Konstantinatlaz: I can make you a counter easily11:54
Sfiet_Konstantinthe GPS won't pass harbour11:54
Sfiet_Konstantinatlaz: but well, let's say ... not now11:55
Sfiet_Konstantinmaybe I can reconsider my offer to dev this app when GPS is allowed in harbour11:55
Sfiet_Konstantin(as I'm not having much time now)11:55
atlazYeah. Well step one could be that you manually inser the endkm. Startkm you can get from last trips endkm11:55
Sfiet_Konstantinatlaz: or you can learn to do this11:55
Sfiet_Konstantinit is not "hard"11:55
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atlazBut Triplog on android was real easy for me. When i came to my car my phone connected to the BT of the car and started tracking the GPS. As soon as i went over 8km/h it started the trip, checked the GPS-coordinates and asked google maps for the address of the place i was. If i had saved this location it gave the name by eg. "home" instead of "Atlazroad 123"11:56
atlazThen when i left my car the BT disconnected and it stopped the trip, checked the coordinates, addresses and location-database and decided if it was a business or personal trip11:57
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Sfiet_Konstantinatlaz: this requires several stuff: connect to car bt11:57
Sfiet_Konstantinnot easy11:57
atlazYeah. But i've come to the conclusion that if its not automatic, i wont use it and it costs me money not to use it11:58
atlazTriplog-app on Jolla runs manually11:58
atlazBut when it's -25c i really don't want to be starting the trip manually11:58
atlazBut if the development of the app costs more than say 399e i can just as easilly buy a android-phone to use in my car to only save my trips :)11:59
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atlazSince triplog-app is free and the deluxe-options (BT-autostart) cost me a couple of euros as inapp-purchases12:00
atlazBut i really... really...really would like to give my Jolla a chance12:01
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smurfyhi, i have problems with the sdk on mac (windows works fine), server key rejected for mer sdk vm box.12:05
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smurfyany tipps?12:05
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walokratbr: about obs, I added tar from github, configured the repositories (only arm) but the build results are empty12:09
walokratbr: am I missing something?12:10
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AL13N_lappyanyone else want openpvn systemd service?
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tbrwalokra: let me have a look12:27
tbrwalokra: - that's empty?12:28
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walokraor should i put it to main project?12:29
joonahoismurfy: fresh install, right?12:29
smurfyjooahoi: yes12:29
smurfyjoonahoi: i also tried reinstall without applying the update, same problem12:30
joonahoiyup, the update was my bet...12:30
smurfyusing: SailfishOSSDK-Alpha-1312-Qt5-mac-offline.dmg12:31
smurfyon windows no problem, only happens on mac (maverick)12:31
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joonahoismurfy: what does it say if you go to Qt Creator preferences12:36
joonahoiand in the Mer - menu item "Connection" -> Test connection12:37
joonahoi(after booting up the Mer VM ofc)12:37
smurfyserver rejected key12:37
joonahoitry Authorize key button12:38
joonahoiand test again12:38
smurfypressed it multiple times already, says key already authorized (and deleted keys too)12:39
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tbrwalokra: taking a look12:41
walokratbr: it's just a test package as it doesn't contain the api key12:41
joonahoismurfy: did you run all the updates under SailfishOS - tab in the Qt Creator?12:44
tbrwalokra: do you have building disabled maybe?12:46
tbras it's building for me12:46
smurfyjoonahoi: no, doing it right now, thx for the tip did not try that12:46
tbralso rpmlint chokes on it, at least 2 errors to be fixed12:47
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tbrwonder why SDK didn't complain12:47
joonahoismurfy: np, hope you get it running12:48
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walokratbr: didn't notice a setting to disable build12:48
smurfyjoonahoi: still does not work, i will take a look inside the mer box now. hoped it was something i missed, so i went here.12:49
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walokratbr: what's the difference between armv8el and v7el. you used v8 as also mosh and no v7. isn't jolla v7?12:50
walokrahmm, now it build also for me with v8el12:52
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tbrwalokra: ah, that's a trick / old workaround. it needs to build for armv7hl, which is aliased to armv8l12:53
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tbranother one for the faq, thanks12:53
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walokrathe obs complains about somethings which the sdk generates automatically to yaml and spec12:54
walokra"standard-dir-owned-by-package /usr/bin"12:55
tbrlbt / jake9xx ^^^12:55
tbr(I know nothing about this stuff)12:55
lbttbr: I think we'd need a harbour target too. I'm not sure what the minimal OBS target provides12:56
lbtAL13N_lappy: openvpn ... the device uses connman to manage vpns12:57
lbtAL13N_lappy: check this channels logs - I've discussed it before :)12:58
lbttbr: also the sdk/harbour spec file is .... not up to the OBS' standards :)12:59
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tbrbut I've seen nice and clean packaging build out of the box also for OBS13:00
tbrso probably if you clean up the OBS complaints it's going to pass harbour for sure (modulo harbour specifics like including library binaries etc)13:01
lbtI think the community template is technically better - could be that13:01
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lbtyes, I'd say so13:01
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kaltsismurfy: did you solve your problem already?13:06
smurfykaltsi: nope13:07
smurfyi added my own public key but no luck either13:07
kaltsismurfy: try this; exit qt creator; rm -rf ~/.config/SailfishAlpha3; restart qt creator13:07
radiofreeoooh battery went up from 28% to 38% after i reboot my phone13:07
radiofreethat's one efficient boot13:08
kaltsismurfy: alternatively, exit everything; virtualmachines and qtcreator.. then rm -rf the config directory and reinstall13:08
mikhasa free recharge, radiofree13:08
radiofreei will reboot my phone 6 more times and i should have a full battery!13:09
smurfykaltsi: already deleted ~/SailfishOs and reinstalled no luck13:09
Yanieland they say rebooting takes a lot of power13:09
kaltsismurfy: the .config directory is important13:09
smurfydid that too13:10
smurfyi can't connect via console ssh and the key either13:10
kaltsismurfy: could you open the mersdk virtual machine from the virtualbox manager so that you get its window?13:10
smurfythe shared vm directories are mounted and the authorised keys is accessable13:11
kaltsismurfy: ok when it's running like that use the hostkey+f2 to get a console.. login as root13:11
kaltsicheck ifconfig, what interfaces do you have there13:11
smurfyeth0, eth1 and lo,13:12
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kaltsismurfy: what's eth0 and eth1 ip addr?13:12
kaltsithey are internal networks, so don't worry, we can't access them from here :)13:13
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smurfythe ssh connection itselfs works but not the pub key. ( eth0 and for eth1)13:13
kaltsiok.. hm curious13:13
smurfyitty to connect over the port forward13:13
kaltsithose ip addresses are correct13:13
smurfyssh mersdk@ -i ......13:14
kaltsiok.. if you do -v -v -v -v to the ssh command, do you get any extra useful info?13:14
kaltsibtw what's your install directory? ~/SailfishOS ?13:15
kaltsiand which OSX and virtualbox version13:15
smurfynot really on that it tries the key and it fails13:15
smurfyyes default ~/SailfishOs13:16
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smurfy4.3.2 virtual box and 10.9.1 osc13:16
smurfyi could upgrade virtual box but i don'T think thats the problem13:17
kaltsiI have about the same at home.. maybe a bit newer virtualbox, but that's not a problem13:17
smurfyall my other vagrant vms works13:17
kaltsican you login to the emulator?13:17
kaltsissh -p 2223 -i ~/SailfishOS/vmshare/ssh/private_keys/SailfishOS_Emulator/nemo nemo@localhost13:18
lbtfyi virtualbox is silent if it fails to do the port fwd thing. Also I *think* I've seen this kind of thing fixed by stopping vbox and then killing/stopping the helper services13:18
smurfyemulator test over creator works13:18
smurfyconsole too13:19
kaltsiunless restarting vbox works, then I'm out of ideas13:19
smurfyah fuck i'm stupid13:21
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smurfysek i have an idea :D13:21
smurfyworks now :), one of my vagrant boxes already used port 2222 so i connected to the wrong machine all the time, thanks for your help guys13:22
kaltsiheh :)13:23
gdbfanI would need to get a stack trace from a crash of my program. Any advice?13:23
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kaltsigdbfan: ssh to device and run it there in gdb or set coredumpsize so that one is created13:24
smurfyIs there a way to integrate my app settings to the sailfish settings menu?13:24
gdbfandoes the gdb work in virtualbox?13:25
kaltsiyes.. login to the emulator with ssh13:26
gdbfangreat, trying that next, thanks13:26
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kaltsigdbfan: the gdb debugging from qtcreator is broken, but being worked on13:27
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kaltsican be used too13:29
supaulii mean: does valgrind work on device / emulator13:29
supaulioh great13:29
supaulii mean really, after valgrind amount of 'bt' commands on gdb has dropped dramatically ;)13:30
kaltsiyeah it's a great tool13:30
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AL13N_lappylbt: they don't exclude eachother, but connman vpn handling is a big ? , cause there13:35
AL13N_lappy's no UI to manually connect13:35
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AL13N_lappywould it connect always?13:35
AL13N_lappynoone knows13:35
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walokrayei! "sailfish_1.0.2.5_armv7hl armv8el succeeded"13:39
Dima^mine jolla wont update to
Dima^any advices why?13:40
Dima^i've reseted it early today13:40
Hartzihey, does anyone know that is there any way to copy data from a ListModels ListElements withouth using a SilicaListView(or any other listview)?13:41
AL13N_lappylbt: at least this will allow me to open 1 of multiple possible openvpn tunnels manually13:42
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AL13N_lappy(and since it'll be in mer, there will not be an issue)13:42
lbtAL13N_lappy: yep - nb .. did you do the Mer pr?13:42
AL13N_lappylbt: check the link in the together post :-)13:42
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coderusHartzi: listModel.get(index).field?13:45
Hartzicoderus: hmm.. yes :D that's it13:46
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coderusbut why you have listModel if dont want to use in ListView?13:46
Hartziusing it in the other place13:47
artemmaHartzi: same model can be used in multiple views13:47
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artemmaand i think it's actually a good idea usually, keeps things consistent and in sync as, well, there's nothing to sync - it's same model :)13:48
Hartziyes but I'm copying a data to create a pins onto a Map13:48
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artemmayeah, then get() is your friend as coderus told13:49
Hartziyes, hopefully :)13:49
artemmaHartzi: a real-real cool implementation though would be to create a special view that could monitor model and add/remove pins whenever model updates ;)13:49
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Hartziif the listmodel is on a differend qml-file, do I need to import that file first?13:50
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Hartziartemma: yes :D but I'm not there yet.13:50
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Hartzibasic things first13:50
artemmaHartzi: you need to pass the model somehow. Importing QML file will. well, import definitions from that file, I guess you are not interested in them13:51
artemmajust pass the pointer to model via properties13:51
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artemmaor signals-slots depending on how you use it and if whole model object can change13:51
Hartziartemma: what if a listmodel is the only thing in that file? Is importing good way to do it in that case?13:53
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artemmaImporting will import the types defined in the QML13:53
artemmaso it could potentially be useful if you want to create another instance the model type (and maybe fill it with same data)13:54
artemmabut I can't see how to do it easily anyway.13:54
HartziI'm not touching the data. Just reading it13:54
artemmaWell, you can do a special QML that will just define a very specific model type already with the data, but.. why?13:54
artemmaAll the list models are of same type ListModel, you don't need to import anything extra for using it13:55
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Hartziokay maybe I didn't explain my problem correctly14:00
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Hartzibut if I need to acces a data that is defined in a ListModel I need to create QtObject model proverty on a page where I need the data?14:04
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artemmaHartzi: simplest way [to me] would be to create a var property, that will be filled at the moment of page creation/pushing. Or even later14:17
Hartziartemma: like var property name: PageName?14:18
artemmaHartzi: for example see how Wikipedia fills BrowserPage url property
artemmafor example, from AboutPage
artemmayou can pass list model same way14:18
smurfyon my physical device the calendar app segfaults, what the best way to create a bug report / debug it?14:20
Hartziartemma: okay14:21
coderuscan i disable linebreak in TextArea when implementing EnterKey.onLicked?14:24
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joonahoionLicked sounds like way more intresting ui event14:32
Hartzihmm it seems that I need to create a model outside a view. I dont know how to declare that I have model and it's in file x. Yes I know that I can do it in a view just declaring "model: PageName {}" but how I dot it outside a view?14:32
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roborothe icons need to be really really  good looking for the onLicked event to work14:33
joonahoideliciously beautiful even14:34
* lbt wonders if you could actually detect that event.... sounds plausible14:35
roborowe need to be careful... onLicked may be patented by Apple14:35
coderusso, noone want to try and help?14:39
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joonahoiwould if could, maybe you could try just string replacing \n from the textarea afterwards14:43
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joonahoibut sounds like the hook gets captured after the default action in chain14:44
coderusi need linebreaks in text, i dont need linebreak by enter14:46
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coderusand i need textarea, i cant use textfield14:47
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suosaaskiso... whats the chance of success in installing sailfish to a cheapish android tablet (Lenovo A1000L)?15:20
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joonahoicoderus: don't know if it's possible but you could try getting the cursor position and removing the newline at cursor position-215:37
joonahoiit's a hack, but can' think of better way to handle it15:38
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coderusjoonahoi: yeah, its the only way i see15:56
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artemmacoderus: TextArea can have validators, can't it? If yes, then maybe your validator can reject anything that includes newline char16:28
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artemmaah, Silica's TextArea is built just for Silica, isn't based on Qt text stuff..16:33
Hartziwtf is this: [W] QQmlComponentPrivate::beginCreate:845 - QQmlComponent: Component is not ready16:33
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Hartziwhy it isn't ready?16:34
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artemmacoderus: I believe you can intercept Enter key using Keys objects inside the TextEdit (that is inside TextArea).. or Keys next to it. You'll need to play with event bubbling and focus hierarchy16:37
artemmaIt might be so that Silica's TextArea doesn't surface enough of internals for it, but probably it does (I don't remember QML key handling very well)16:38
artemmacoderus: check this doc for an example: You'll need to put Keys element on the way of even bubbling and filter out Enter key presses there16:39
Venemoartemma: in the inside, it probably uses just a QML TextEdit16:40
artemmaTextArea internally uses TextEdit for sure, I checked it just now16:40
artemmayet coderus probably won't even need to know these details. I think you can still put Keys inside and intercept/filter key presses there16:41
artemmayou may or may not need to mess with focus groups and active focuses, I don't remember these concepts by heart16:41
artemmawith focus scopes*16:41
Venemoabout the enter key, see
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coderusartemma: Keys.onReturnPressed inside TestEdit worked, thanks!17:05
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artemmacoderus: cool! Good luck with making it all work then!17:05
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jukeis is possible on use symbian qml elements in sailfish? it seems that symbian has a lot of nice things like selectiondialog and checkbox17:24
jukeif not, is there somewhere a list of higher level elements that can be used, i've only found things like colordialog, which are not that necessary17:26
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tbrjuke: have you seen the component gallery in the emulator?17:33
jukei'll check it out17:34
coderusjuke: Silica have awesome ComboBox and Switch17:35
jukethis is really helpful, thanks a lot!17:36
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radiofreemy phone has stopped charging :\18:10
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John24hey guys got a very silly question19:27
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John24can we use Qt Creator 3.0 for sailfish app development?19:27
TSCHAKMacI would say no, at this point.19:27
John24so Qt creator that comes with sailfish is a custom one?19:28
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John24Ahhh I see, thank you19:28
* TSCHAKMac does find it funny that he has 6 different Qt Creator setups :P19:28
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TSCHAKMachas anyone tried to port a purely SDL app over to run on Sailfish (or Mer, for that matter?)19:29
TSCHAKMacespecially given that it's all Wayland now?19:29
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John24SDL I think only supports Xlib doesn't it?19:30
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TSCHAKMacSDL 2.x should be able to do GLES19:31
TSCHAKMaclooks like there is RPi support using Wayland19:35
TSCHAKMacthis can be massaged over19:35
* TSCHAKMac wants to port MAME/MESS/UME over :)19:36
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John24if enought people join in could a whole project to port it19:36
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coderus Mitakuuluu  v0.1-21. Fixed contacts sync. :)20:57
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jupajaHi guys the XMPP/Jabber ca.cer Issue can be fixed!! —> (Thanks to
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hannes102Hi there, I'm trying to use QtWebKit in my app and I'm kind of stuck. Has anyone used it?22:03
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