Monday, 2014-01-27

artemmayep, I get this connman errors when trying "ssu er mer-tools"00:00
artemmais connman some network lib that I need to install before using ssu?00:00
dschoepeconnman handles the internet connection00:01
dschoepemake sure that you have internet access00:01
artemmaping replies fine00:01
dschoepethen I'm at a loss00:02
artemmathanks for trying, maybe I try asking tomorrow00:02
EztranHopefully someone who knows about ssu will be looking then.00:03
dschoepeI think I did "ssu ar mer-tools" first, by accident, when I installed it. maybe that helps00:03
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EztranHmm. Some stuff around online suggests that error's unimportant.00:04
Eztranssu ur?00:05
artemmaEztran is that full command?00:05
artemmasame connman errors00:06
EztranApparently they don't mean anything, though?00:06
EztranWhat does 'ssu lr' output?00:06
Eztran(i.e. is mer-tools visible/enabled/disabled?)00:07
artemmaEztran: no, mer-tools are not visible there00:08
EztranNot even as a disabled repo?00:09
EztranAh. Something is Up, then, 'cause I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be installed but disabled by default.00:09
artemmaI have a bunch of openrepos repos, then jolla, hotfixes, etc, but not mer-tools00:10
EztranOut of interest, does 'ssu ar mer-tools' work, then?00:11
artemmasame errors00:11
EztranAnd not added? The errors do seem to be ignorable, by the P.S. here: (the rest of the post isn't relevant unless you did enable the do-not-touch button)00:13
artemmaah, now I see mer-tools in ssu lr00:14
artemmaand it is enabled00:14
artemmaEztran: thanks!00:14
artemmanow how do I get to strace from here? :)00:15
EztranAwesome. pkcon install strace00:15
artemmapkcon search doesn't find it00:15
artemmaokay, trying install right away00:15
Eztranrefresh first :)00:15
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artemmaommand failed: This tool could not find any available package: could not find strace00:15
* satmd just wanted to say "thank you"00:17
satmdThank you!00:17
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artemmaI can haz strace!00:26
artemmathank you guys00:26
EztranAnother victory for blind Internetting and shots in the dark! :)00:26
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andrilhello all01:11
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* artemma is at #QtMobileRoadshow at Tampere and seriously surprised that nobody is tweeting. Or am I using the wrong hashtag?07:35
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tbris that today?07:43
artemmatbr: you can still come, so far they are only covering Qt overview :)07:44
tbrartemma: where is it?07:44
artemmatbr: demola07:44
artemmawell, new factory07:44
* tbr checks for calendar collisions07:45
B-ZaRI'm a few hundred meters away from there but sadly work :(07:45
tbralso I'm pretty sure I registered for that, but can't find that email07:45
artemmatbr: who cares abt email registrations, just come :)07:46
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tbrartemma: sure, just mumbling, usually that would get me an email reminder07:48
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coderusartemma: thank you :)08:08
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elenrili wonder why is parted saying gpt table is corrupted09:11
elenril(when run on the internal flash device)09:12
elenrilthe kernel can recognize the partitions just fine...09:12
pp_it's not a gpt table?-)09:13
elenrilwhat is it then09:14
elenrilhexdump sees efi mentioned09:14
pp_dunno, suppose embedded things can be just about anything09:15
elenrilit's not like there's so many choices09:15
elenrili suppose it's not documented anywhere what all the obscure partitions are for09:23
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pp_heh, looks like dbus-send can enable lte (as a battery-suck that's probably not certified for use, and my subscription doesn't have support anyway09:47
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tachikomamh, i think i do have lte09:48
pp_dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.ofono /ril_0 org.ofono.RadioSettings.SetProperty string:"TechnologyPreference" variant:string:"lte"09:48
pp_they claim09:48
pp_(just dropped out of the network for me)09:48
pp_umts gets it back09:48
tachikomawill try, thx09:48
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tachikomamh, ok does not work - connection problem - do i need a new lte enable sim card for that?09:58
joonahoipp_: i think you should use "any" instead of "umts" to let it automatically negotiate the best one that's supported09:59
Jonnielenril: I would not mess up with partititions, as you can easily permanently brick the device with it.09:59
Jonnipp_: joonahoi: please dont mess with modem, untill official support comes out, your operator might not like it and for example blacklist your imei.10:01
joonahoiyup :)10:01
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elenrilJonni: i'm looking at a dd dump10:06
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artemmaJust learned about QMAKE_INFO_PLIST keyword for qmake. You use for telling Creator that you want a specific info.plist for iOS, not the (re)generated by Creator11:37
artemmaCould Sailfish OS use similar approach when deciding whether to "fix" my dear .yaml?11:37
artemmaAard: ping11:38
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zippohi, I have a problem when trying to deploy my hello world application to the sailfish emulator. I'm on windows 7 and whenever I try to build and deploy to the emulator I get this error message: Fatal: No spec file found in '/home/mersdk//Sailfish Applications/hello/rpm/' and couldn't make one from a yaml 11:41:32: The process "C:\Users\zappey\AppData\Roaming\SailfishAlpha3\mer-sdk-tools\MerSDK\SailfishOS-i486-x86\deploy.cmd" exited12:11
zippoAny help is greatly appriciated12:11
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jake9xxzippo: you have space in the filename12:18
elenrilwhy is /system/xbin/tcpdump setuid root12:18
jake9xxzippo: in next sdk release we'll provide system that can handle it...12:19
jake9xxfor now the workaround is to rename that folder to .g. Sailfish_Applications12:19
elenrilgiving any user the ability to listen to any network traffic looks like a rather large hole12:20
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zippothanks jake9xx, it works now...12:25
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jukeanyone know about licences? can i ship gpl licenced library binaries with a closed source app?12:46
Nicd-afaik no12:47
hoelzrojuke: I'm no lawyer, that sounds like something you cannot do.12:47
Nicd-would need to be LGPL12:47
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tbrthat's why there is LGPL, it was created because of libraries12:49
tbrso that you can link against libraries from differently licensed code12:49
jukeare qt modules lgpl?12:51
w00tjuke: yes12:52
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jukeincluding qt5systeminfo?12:56
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Nicd-hey, I have a dialog with a title that changes text when you swipe the dialog (DialogHeader with acceptText)13:02
Nicd-the title is "Settings" and acceptText is "Save"13:02
Nicd-now it reads "Save" on the top all the time but when I start to swipe, it changes to "Settings"13:03
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Nicd-I would imagine the order would be reversed, with it saying "Settings" on the top and changing to "Save" when I start to swipe13:03
Nicd-so what is the usual usage?13:04
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jukeno wonder the jolla store is practically empty13:37
jukeall the useful libraries are disallowed and you can't ship them either because of licences13:37
Nicd-what libraries do you need?13:38
jukelibqt5systeminfo and libqt5positioning13:38
Raimeven if they were allowed you were still not allowed to link a closed source app to it13:38
zuhAnd those will magically bring 10k apps to Jolla store?-) </troll>13:38
Nicd-juke: afaik qt 5 positioning will be allowed once sailfish is updated to qt 5.213:39
jukeit might help if you could have something to build with13:39
jukeNicd-, ok, but most of the functionality will still be missing13:40
jukeRaim, so you can't have closed source apps in harbour at all?13:41
jukeqt libs' licences aren't viral or are they?13:41
artemmajuke: open source Qt is LGPL13:42
tbryou can link about LGPL, as said before...13:42
juketoo bad qtsysteminfo depends on libbluetooth which is gpl13:42
artemmajuke: you should be fine using them as long as you link dynamically. To my knowledge this point of view was not tested in the court, but common point of view is that you can use LGPL with dynamic linking13:43
artemmajuke: I believe Qt Projects aims to have everything LGPL, so there should be a solution, maybe not right now13:43
artemmaQt Project*13:43
artemmaactually, I am surprised something is not LGPL there, Qt/Nokia/Digia laweys could have it slipped in, really?13:44
jukei could ship those two qt modules as private shared libraries, but harbour does not allow them to link to public shared libraries such as udev, bluetooth, fontconfig, so i would have to ship the depencies as well13:44
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* artemma just completed a test trial with shipping gstreamer (on emulator so far, but real device should be same) - just a dozen of libs. Not much at all if you really need that13:45
jukeudev and bluetooth libs are under gpl, so can't do that13:45
artemmawell, to me it's news that Qt uses something GPL, can't tell much13:46
jukewhat are the options for distributing apps outside harbour?13:49
Nicd-openrepos seems to be popular13:49
Nicd-or you can just put it on bitbucket or the like to be manually downloaded13:50
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Nicd-App submitted for QA \o/14:38
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jukecan you #include part of .pro file from another file?14:40
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juke include(
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wickwireHi guys, using pageStack.push to move between pages, how may I set a variable on source page1, accessible on destination page2...?14:49
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coderuswickwire: page2.variable?14:56
coderusjuke: cak include pri files to pro14:57
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jukeinclude() already did the trick14:58
jukebut thanks14:58
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wickwirecoderus: somehow, not working for me15:12
wickwireI also tried page1.variable, on page215:13
wickwireno dice15:13
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wickwireit did find the variable, but when I run the app, white screen15:13
cvpneed someone whos have knowing about Kernel :)15:17
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mornfallis there an easy way to point OBS at a git repo and have it spit out RPMs?15:20
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satmdhello, (how) can I disable html mail in the email app?15:32
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merlin1991mornfall: it's called tar_git or something, and appears to be the default way stuff is build inside obs16:10
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Nicd-my qml timers aren't firing when the phon's display is off17:04
Nicd-problem is that they also seem to not fire when the phone is woken up17:04
Nicd-so the effect is that they are missed entirely17:05
Nicd-another problem is that the timers work normally when phone is in dev mode so it's harder to test17:07
Nicd-dev mode being usb dev mode17:07
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coderusNicd-: something discussed in past in dev mailing list17:14
Nicd-maybe I should add a note to my app17:15
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mornfallSage_: poke?17:17
mornfallw00t: (or you)17:17
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mornfallanyway, I did the github servicehook dance17:20
mornfallfor harbour-weight-log17:20
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mornfallawaiting further instructions :-)17:20
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Sage_mornfall: poke back :)17:46
mornfallstanding by17:46
* Sage_ is not sure what is expected atm.17:47
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mornfallwell, the wiki says I should talk to either of you two after doing "test hook"17:47
mornfalllemme find it again17:47
mornfallAfter clicking "Test Hook" the webhooks admin interface will show to the admins that you have active git17:48
mornfalltree. Now contact on the admins Sage or w00t at #nemomobile IRC channel and they will help you to setup the17:48
mornfallrest of the webhook process. Here the admin asks you what will be the package name and the target obs17:48
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mornfallI acknowledge I used the wrong channel.17:48
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mornfalldid I do it wrong?18:09
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elenrilany chances of mysatroker getting at least the kernel part opensourced?18:11
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walokrahmmm, i don't understand why harbour-sailimgur-0.1.1.armv7hl.rpm is invalid file name when submitting to harbour18:56
Sage_mornfall: ah18:57
coderuswalokra: %version%-%build%18:58
coderusnot %version%.%build%18:58
walokrathat was what i was wonderint but it doesn't say that in the form18:58
Sage_mornfall: what git tree?18:58
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walokracoderus: thanks, that was it19:01
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Sage_mornfall: are you planning of sending it to the jolla harbour?19:02
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Sage_mornfall: as for that you don't need the tar_git or hooks19:02
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Anton__Hi have some problem with an qml port from harmattan to sailfish. I got it to compile but at run there is a problem with the qml: include 1.019:03
Anton__i installed the qt-components-qt519:04
Anton__i can then see the includes in /usr/lib/qt5/qml19:04
Anton__ module "" is not installed19:05
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mornfallSage_: yes, but I don't have a binary rpm and my SDK install is busted... (well, I only have a Debug rpm from before a system upgrade)19:06
coderusAnton__: its 2.0 in sailfish19:06
mornfallSage_: and the SDK not being available as source makes it pretty inconvenient to deploy19:06
mornfallso I won't have time for that for a while19:06
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Anton__coderus: Yes, I tried. Same problem19:09
Anton__coderus: module "" is not installed      import 2.019:10
euroelessarIs there a good way to access Theme's properties from C++? Or only 'supported' way is by QML bridges?19:10
Anton__coderus: If I set  QML_IMPORT_PATH=/usr/lib/qt5/qml , I have "plugin cannot be loaded for module "": Unknown error      import 2.0"19:13
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coderuseuroelessar: only qml19:18
coderusAnton__: qt-components-qt5 should be installed on device/emulator19:19
Anton__coderus: Yes. Thats what I did19:19
Anton__coderus: I also have the this in my qml:    import QtQuick 1.019:20
coderusQtQuick 2.119:20
Anton__coderus: And that seems to work19:20
coderuswell, anyway. you wanna see ugly meego ui on sailfish for what?19:20
Anton__no, just for testing19:20
coderusbut anyway you doing something wrong19:21
coderusqt-components-qt5 seems not installed19:22
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Anton__coderus: Just to make sure: i installed by ssh into emulator then `pkcon install qt-components-qt5 `. I dont have to do something else to install?19:25
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coderusadd qt-components-qt5 to spec/yaml depends19:27
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dafoxHi all. I've asked this in #jollamobile too, but I'm having some difficulties with the camera app on my jolla. Basically it's stopped showing the camera image, just black. The user interface still works, and I can take a picture and see it in the gallery, but the screen for the camera is just black. Any help would be appreciated.19:43
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Stskeepsdafox: did you by chance play with developer mode?19:44
Jonnidafox: have you tried to start from commandline and see if it outputs any errors?19:44
dafoxStskeeps: I've enabled developer mode, but I haven't done a lot with it19:44
dafoxI've tried to reboot the phone, but this hasn't helped19:44
dafoxJonni: what is the name off the executable?19:45
Jonnifactory reset would be next guess, if you have enabled some 3rd party repositories19:45
dafoxno, no 3rd party repositories19:45
dafoxI only installed the whatsapp/mitakuuluu rpm19:45
slatefinger on camera lense? ;D19:45
slatedafox: tried switching to front camera and or video?19:46
dafoxslate: yes, no difference19:46
Jonnidafox: invoker -s --type=silica-qt5 /usr/bin/jolla-camera19:47
dafoxJonni: there are a bunch of glib-critical errors, then at the end it says "DeclarativeCoverWindow: I have a default alpha buffer"19:48
Jonnisounds normal, pastebin would be nicer19:48
dafoxdo we have a pastebin app?19:49
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Jonnithat sounds like that you have replaced sytstem gstreamer with some 3rd party package.19:51
dafoxI installed some extra gst codecs, but from official repo (I think it was gst-plugins-bad)19:51
dafoxcould that be the cause19:51
Jonniyes that has broken it19:51
dafoxok, so just uninstall that should fix it?19:52
Jonnimost likely not, but its worth to try. worst case you need to do factory reset.19:52
dafoxout of curiosity, why did that break it, isn't it just 'more' codecs?19:52
Jonnimost likely that package replaces some jolla binaries or packages.19:53
Jonnithats why people should be carefull when installing stuff form unofficial repoes19:53
dafoxJonni: I didn't enable any unofficial repositories19:54
dafoxthe only unofficial package I installed was mitakuuluu19:54
dafoxI think19:54
dafoxunless pkcon by default has access to unofficial binaries?19:54
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Stskeepsit lets you shoot yourself in the foot, yes19:55
dafoxJonni: that is odd... So I pkcon remove'd gst-plugins-bad, and it said it also needed to remove the jolla-camera and media play apps. So then after that I pkcon install'ed the jolla-camera and mediaplayer again, and it said that it also needed gst-plugins-bad19:56
dafoxso now I have the same packages intalled again19:56
Jonniofcourse you could try reinstalling qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-mediaservice-gstcamerabin and see if that helps19:56
dafoxand yet the camera now seems to work...19:56
Jonnigood that it works, wierd way to fix though.19:57
dafoxyes, why does it seem like the jolla-camera depends on gst-plugins-bad?19:57
dafoxcan I see dependencies with pkcon?19:57
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dafoxmm, the gst-plugins-bad do indeed show up in pkcon get-depends...19:58
dafoxJonni: is it the same for you?19:58
dafoxie. is that the normal situation?19:58
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Jonniseems to be normal. So maybe it was mitakuuluu or some other wierd combination that screwed things up.19:59
dafoxNo, it was definitely still working after installign mitakuuluu, but then I must've installed some other gst-plugins package other than plugins-bad20:00
mornfallSage_: is that a valid OBS use-case?20:00
mornfallmaybe I just don't understand what's the point of OBS :-)))20:00
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M4rtinKmornfall: it's like a coffee mill20:05
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M4rtinKmornfall: you push source package inside and a binary package pops out20:05
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M4rtinKunlike coffee mill, it also rebuilds the package automatically if one of its dependencies changes20:06
mornfallM4rtinK: but Sage_ tells me I shouldn't use it when I want to upload the package to Harbour?20:06
mornfall<-- confused20:06
M4rtinKmornfall: I don't see any reason why not20:07
M4rtinKI've been using the old Harmattan COBS for all my package builds for the Ovi store20:07
M4rtinKwithout issues20:07
M4rtinKshould be the same here20:07
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dafoxJonni: anyway, it works now, so thank you for the help :)20:08
slatewhat was the fix20:10
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dafoxslate: uninstall gst-plugins-bad, which also uninstalled the camera and mediaplayer, then install the camera and mediaplayer again (but this also pulls in gst-plugins-bad)20:11
slateokey. strange.20:11
dafoxslate: so nothing changed (except for reinstall of packages), and yet now it works...20:11
slatemaybe gst-plugins-bad was replaced at some point with wrong version etc?20:11
dafoxthe mediaplayer package was updated (0.1.27-10.5.1 to 0.1.27-10.5.7), but how that is related to the camera I don't know20:14
dafoxthe plugins package and camera are the same version20:14
dafoxas I understand the codecs live in the various gst-plugins-* packages, and the player is just a front-end gui20:15
dafox(please correct me if I'm wrong)20:15
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elenrilso..locking with the power button / swiping down does not work20:35
elenrilbut automatic locking on timeout works20:36
elenrilany pointers how to debug this?20:36
tbrpersistently? over reboots?20:36
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M4rtinKmaybe journalctl -f as root20:37
M4rtinKand see what the log logs like if you try to lock it vs when it locks automatically20:37
barawhat is the best practice to save data in a salilfish qt quick app? i just need to save a list of values20:38
M4rtinK(provided you are setup to SSH to the device)20:38
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elenrilyes, i have ssh and everything20:38
elenriljournal says just statefs[908]: Display: "off"20:39
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elenrilfwiw there's nothing in the log even when the automatic lock triggers20:47
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M4rtinKweird, that's something I would expect to to be logged20:49
M4rtinKthen maybe the last thing to try is monitoring DBUS activity20:49
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M4rtinKotherwise no don't really know what else to try20:50
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Accedoes someone know how do I disable default behaviour on, say onClicked of ListItem?20:57
FireFlyBtw, I had a weird issue yesterday21:01
FireFlyI wanted to take a photo from the top of a hill, but after double-tap/unlocking via power button, it wouldn't allow me to interact with the interface at all21:02
FireFlyit didn't respond to pulling or pushing21:02
FireFlyI figure it might've been due to it being cold or something.. I tried a few times, but it just refused to work, but when I tried later indoors it worked just fine21:03
AcceFireFly: did you see the lockscreen though?21:03
Acceok.. then it's not the bug I have sometimes21:03
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Abby30 I give you some pictures. I hope you like!
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Hartzihey. What is the best way to add multiple items into a page using only one definition? I have to add few rectangeles into a page and there's only size that I need to change between every rectangle. So is there better way than copy&paste my 2342km long rectangle definition? :P23:08
AcceHartzi: hmm.. a Repeater?23:09
Hartzisounds good23:09
Accecheck it out, it's like an non-interactive ListView, makes exact copies and let's you access the index of each copy23:10
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Hartzidoes it allow to change every parameters that a rectangle has?23:10
Accehmm, do you mean, for each rectangle?23:11
specialalso see Component and dynamic object creation23:12
Acceyou can use the index to scale them or something I guess23:12
Accespecial: and I have to go take a look on that too23:12
specialin the simplest case: var component = Qt.createComponent(Qt.resolvedUrl("MyRectangle.qml")); var object = component.createObject(parentItem, { 'width': 300 }); var object2 = ...23:13
AcceI have a feeling it's something I wish I would have known few weeks ago.. oh well23:13
specialor a Component { } instead of Qt.createComponent. Same thing.23:13
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