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| hurdman | hello folks | 09:15 |
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| hurdman | i have found your website and download the sdk, it's very interesting. But Where can i find an OS builder ore someting like that to run it on my own dev board ? | 09:18 |
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| Stskeeps | what dev board, out of interest? | 09:19 |
| hurdman | Stskeeps: it's a MarsBoard http://www.embest-tech.com/shop/star/marsboard.html?utm_source=Adwords&utm_medium=marsboard&utm_term=marsboard&utm_content=marsboard&utm_campaign=marsboard | 09:20 |
| hurdman | Stskeeps: i use to "play" with | 09:20 |
| hurdman | i ever have my own buildroot+qy5 apps run on it ^^ | 09:20 |
| hurdman | qt5* | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | mmm android 4.0 might be a bit too old | 09:22 |
| hurdman | Stskeeps: i doesn't like android | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i don't either, but, it provides useful hardware adaptation apis that are typically not available | 09:22 |
| tbr | for 3D in wayland you need android libs | 09:23 |
| hurdman | i'm I was forced to work for android work on a project of access control, but I prefer my personal projects on embedded linux ^ ^ | 09:23 |
| hurdman | tbr: the android libc version or others things ? | 09:24 |
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| tbr | yes bionic based libs and access through libhybris | 09:26 |
| Stskeeps | new record: i'm not writing my fosdem slides on the plane journey there.. | 09:26 |
| tbr | you'll write them 5min before the talk instead? ;) | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, got 34 slides already | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:27 |
| tbr | ugh | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | will probably size it down a bit | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | i just have too much material | 09:27 |
| hurdman | Stskeeps: Technical introduction to the deeper parts of SailfishOS, a Qt5-Wayland based mobile OS <= it's your speech ? | 09:28 |
| Stskeeps | hurdman: aye | 09:28 |
| hurdman | arf i doesn't go to fosdem this year :'( | 09:28 |
| hurdman | i will see the video ^^" | 09:30 |
| hurdman | tbr: so, i have to build an ndk for my board first ? before build a sailfish for it ? | 09:31 |
| tbr | hurdman: no, usually you'd go and salvage an "Android BSP" that was provided by the vendor | 09:32 |
| hurdman | tbr: i have ever a jelly 4.2.*** very patched own that nearly works | 09:34 |
| tbr | does 3d acceleration work on it? | 09:35 |
| hurdman | tbr: never test :/ | 09:35 |
| hurdman | tbr: but it works on my linux ^^ | 09:36 |
| hurdman | tbr: 4.2 is not too old ? | 09:38 |
| tbr | 4.2 is OK | 09:38 |
| hurdman | nice | 09:38 |
| tbr | you need an 3d accelerated wayland in the end | 09:38 |
| hurdman | i'll rebuild it and test 3D | 09:38 |
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| hurdman | tbr: | 09:49 |
| hurdman | and where can I find the files build a sailsfish OS? | 09:49 |
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| tbr | hurdman: you basically port nemo-mobile and then can layer on sailfish | 09:53 |
| hurdman | tbr: ok, first i port nemo, after i back her ? | 09:53 |
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| tbr | #nemomobile-porters is about that and you'll likely find people interested in sailfish there too | 09:55 |
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| hurdman | tbr: ok thx | 10:13 |
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| Andy80 | a bit OT question (please note: I don't want to do this on Jolla): do you know (in general) if it's possible to change the IMEI of a phone (supposing you have full root access) or is it something hardcoded in the HW? Thanks | 13:21 |
| tbr | it's usually hard | 13:23 |
| tbr | e.g. written into a signed flash file or area | 13:23 |
| tbr | or only accessible by the baseband | 13:23 |
| Andy80 | that's what I imagined.... thanks :) | 13:24 |
| tbr | sometimes it's possible though, e.g. if it's only protected by a checksum | 13:24 |
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| tbr | lots of obscurity usually too | 13:24 |
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| piggz | not many uses outside of enabling a stolen phone ;) | 13:25 |
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| Andy80 | piggz, a friend of mine asked me this question twice and I really didn't know what to answer. Before saying "it's not possible" and maybe appearing un-skilled, I wanted to be sure it was possible or not. (he's trying to do it on an Android phone anyway). | 13:27 |
| Andy80 | and at this point I really don't want to know why he's trying to do this :) | 13:27 |
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| Andy80 | I hate when friends suppose "you're a developer so you must know it" -.-' | 13:31 |
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| piggz | i just got a first port done to ios ... sailfish sdks jut installed tooo (got a new laptop, and its a pita re-installing all my sdks) | 13:32 |
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| elenril | what would be the best way to automatically bring the usb network interface up when connected | 15:40 |
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| tbr | on the PC side? | 15:41 |
| elenril | on the jolla side | 15:42 |
| tbr | set usb mode to developer | 15:42 |
| elenril | that only creates the interface, but i still have to manually ip l set rndis0 up on the jolla | 15:42 |
| elenril | is this a bug? | 15:43 |
| tbr | sounds b0rken | 15:43 |
| tbr | if I connect my jolla it brings up the interface with the preset IP | 15:43 |
| tbr | do you have openssh active under developer mode? | 15:44 |
| elenril | yes | 15:44 |
| elenril | btw i also get different hw address on each connection | 15:44 |
| elenril | possibly related | 15:44 |
| tbr | which firmware version are you on? | 15:45 |
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| elenril | the latest one | 15:45 |
| elenril | 1.0.2.5 | 15:45 |
| tbr | I haven't checked the MAC on the device side, but on the PC side I think it's stable | 15:46 |
| elenril | fwiw i see something like 'generating random mac address' in dmesg output on jolla | 15:46 |
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| tbr | actually no, seems it still changes | 15:47 |
| tbr | or it is the one of my other jolla | 15:47 |
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| tbr | time to check... | 15:47 |
| elenril | anyway, do you know which part of the system is responsible for bringing the interface up? | 15:48 |
| tbr | ah, it was my other jolla | 15:48 |
| elenril | ah..i get it | 15:49 |
| elenril | maybe the reason was that i didn't set the address in settings | 15:49 |
| elenril | i was actually connecting through ipv6 link-local addresses before | 15:50 |
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| tbr | heh | 15:50 |
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| elenril | ipv6 is the best thing ever ;) | 15:51 |
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| tbr | sure, unless your mac changes all the time, then trying link local sucks | 15:54 |
| elenril | nah, ping6 -I usb0 ip6-allnodes will get me everything i need | 15:54 |
| tbr | sure, extra step though | 15:55 |
| elenril | yes, but setting a static address has some potential for conflicts if i connect the phone to several machines in different networks | 15:57 |
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| elenril | so the wlan driver is closed too... | 17:30 |
| elenril | meh | 17:30 |
| pp_ | elenril: if I understood correctly a (not-necessarily-functioning) version is in the staging tree nowadays | 17:35 |
| elenril | yes, just found something similar-looking | 17:36 |
| elenril | git://codeaurora.org/external/wlan/prima | 17:36 |
| elenril | but it looks a little different | 17:37 |
| elenril | at least there's hope for an open version at some point | 17:37 |
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| coderus | 1.0.3.3 released | 18:01 |
| coderus | downloading update on my N9, wanna see how it will be kileld by: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92431 | 18:01 |
| Aard | coderus: no, it's not :) | 18:02 |
| Aard | coderus: and the systemd update is not in. | 18:02 |
| elenril | hmm, so the only closed kernel modules are wlan and mysatroker? | 18:02 |
| elenril | what about the gpu? | 18:03 |
| coderus | Aard: i see systemd update in packages list | 18:03 |
| Aard | yes, but not the one I announced. it's not 3 months yet :p | 18:03 |
| coderus | okay, thanks :) | 18:03 |
| Yaniel | sailfish 1.0.3.3? | 18:05 |
| coderus | yes | 18:05 |
| Yaniel | I don't see it yet :/ | 18:06 |
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| Aard | Yaniel: because it's not released. | 18:07 |
| Yaniel | ah | 18:08 |
| khertan | bbbbbbbbbn h hh h bgbny y bt t,bz,vsrzrssrsssrsrs r bs,qvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwf zrrrrrrrrrz-&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& | 18:10 |
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| * tbr throws kitty treats at khertan's computer | 18:10 | |
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| faenil | :D | 18:11 |
| coderus | http://jollasuomi.fi/seuraava-sailfish-paivitys-on-1-0-3-3-naamankajarvi/ | 18:11 |
| ottulo | naamakalajärvi | 18:12 |
| ottulo | :g | 18:12 |
| pp_ | hopefully not naamapalmujärvi | 18:12 |
| walokra | was just writing that :) | 18:12 |
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| khertan | $= | 18:18 |
| khertan | =$* | 18:18 |
| coderus | ._. | 18:19 |
| khertan | ùùmok,cv c,,n:l mmmmmmmmmm m l lllllkkkk h,,v, | 18:19 |
| ottulo | rÃghÅ£ | 18:19 |
| goroboro | coderus: hi | 18:19 |
| coderus | goroboro: hello :) | 18:20 |
| khertan | lk c×±þ€Ê€eeeeeeeeee ee eeeee e eeeeee e eeeeeee e e ee e e eee eeeeeeeeee e e e ee e e e eeeee e eeeeee e ee e e e e | 18:20 |
| iekku | khertan's child or cat, hello | 18:20 |
| khertan | sorry daughter play with the keyboard | 18:20 |
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| goroboro | coderus: I added a c project to build.merproject.org to use OBS and I keep getting an unresolvable... nothing provides gcc, make, binutils etc... | 18:20 |
| goroboro | coderus: any idea what I've done wrong? | 18:21 |
| ottulo | khertan: I've been meaning to ask, have you halted developing bitpurse for sailfish, or are you just waiting for some libs or such? | 18:21 |
| ottulo | khertan: just want to know if it's possibly coming at some point | 18:21 |
| khertan | ottulo, it ll come | 18:21 |
| coderus | goroboro: sorry, no idea, i'm not using OBS | 18:22 |
| coderus | goroboro: ask on #nemomobile channel | 18:22 |
| ottulo | khertan: thanks, great | 18:22 |
| khertan | just lose too much time trying to understood why sudden shutdown happen on my jolla | 18:22 |
| goroboro | mmm okay... thanks | 18:22 |
| khertan | goroboro, i m also waiting next release to know which python version will be available | 18:23 |
| khertan | they were talking of 3.x | 18:23 |
| khertan | but no date | 18:23 |
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| khertan | goroboro, and i play too much time writing my own trading btc bot :) | 18:23 |
| goroboro | khertan: heay... I think they settled on Python3 | 18:24 |
| goroboro | I believe because they chose pyotherside for the qt interface | 18:24 |
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| khertan | goroboro, you can use pyotherside or variant with py 2.x | 18:25 |
| khertan | ownNotes on harmattan use a variant of pyotherside with py2.6 :) | 18:25 |
| khertan | and with 2.7 on Sailfish | 18:25 |
| khertan | :) | 18:25 |
| khertan | an older version that i modified to use thread instead of js callback | 18:26 |
| goroboro | ah... I know it is availble for earlier versions of python... but it was what was compiled in the mer-tools repo | 18:26 |
| goroboro | I haven't been following too closely... I just remember reading somewhere that it was going to be py3 with pyotherside | 18:27 |
| khertan | daughter shower time :) | 18:27 |
| khertan | sorry | 18:27 |
| khertan | the question is will ... but when ? :) | 18:27 |
| khertan | bye | 18:27 |
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| elenril | why does /system duplicate a lot of stuff from other places? | 18:40 |
| elenril | the corresponding package is called droid-system-sbj, so i guess it's for android compat or something? | 18:40 |
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| M4rtinK | well, you can already deploy python apps to openrepos | 18:46 |
| M4rtinK | just check that helsinky bus map | 18:46 |
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| khertan | M4rtinK i know look at ownNotes :) | 18:48 |
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| wickwire | hi guys | 18:54 |
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| wickwire | how may I use setContextProperty with sailfishOS? | 18:55 |
| wickwire | I've used it with Qt5 to expose methods from C++ to QML | 18:55 |
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| jpnurmi | wickwire: https://github.com/amarchen/helloworld-pro-sailfish/blob/master/src/main.cpp | 19:02 |
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| jpnurmi | wickwire: then you can call view->rootContext()->setContextProperty(...) before loading the qml | 19:02 |
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| wickwire | jpnurmi: thanks I'll check it out | 19:12 |
| coderus | wickwire: you just getting QGuiApplication and QQuickView and working with it as usual | 19:14 |
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| coderus | Aard: you sure about systemd? because my N9 not booting in to Sailfish anymore :D | 19:15 |
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| wickwire | coderus, jpnurmi: thank you, it is working now! :) | 19:27 |
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| Aard | coderus: yes. | 19:31 |
| Aard | coderus: does not mean that we unintentionally broke it, though. right now we're not doing release testing on n9 | 19:32 |
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| coderus | Aard: will test clean install new release soon | 19:36 |
| coderus | if you right it takes extra time to get broken components :D | 19:37 |
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| elenril | i wonder if using freedreno would be viable | 19:39 |
| Stskeeps | well, mesa llvmpipe works if you beat it a bit with a shovel | 19:42 |
| Stskeeps | rest is an academic excersise | 19:42 |
| elenril | you mean it's too slow for anything? | 19:44 |
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| Stskeeps | dunno, we have different requirements than freedreno, so we use the android gpu drivers | 19:44 |
| elenril | what do you mean by different requirements | 19:45 |
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| Stskeeps | as in, the whole package from an SoC vendor including licenses and royalties comes specific to certain chipset and adaptation | 19:45 |
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| elenril | sorry, i'm not good at embeddedspeak yet; adaptation == specific kernel build? | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | kernel, opengl drivers, telephony drivers, firmware, etc | 19:47 |
| elenril | so you're forbidden by the licence to ship anything else... | 19:48 |
| Stskeeps | well, that says it a bit wrong | 19:48 |
| Stskeeps | but i don't want to delve too much into patent discussions and gpu drivers, it doesn't serve freedreno or other like projects any good | 19:48 |
| elenril | hmm, didn't think patents figure in this | 19:51 |
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| M4rtinK | still I would say - who knows ? :) every dead blob is a good blob | 19:57 |
| M4rtinK | it is good to have at least a feasible possibility of having a OSS driver, unlike with SGX for example | 19:57 |
| elenril | there's a practical reason for this too -- i want to build my own kernels eventually | 19:59 |
| elenril | and all the blobs make it hard | 19:59 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, I would say that's the main concern | 19:59 |
| M4rtinK | you need a new kernel for many useful things or even just not to lag behind | 20:00 |
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| M4rtinK | new BTRFS features or in the future that KDBUS stuff | 20:00 |
| M4rtinK | good example how it can go when you don't care about blobs is Fedora | 20:01 |
| elenril | the main thing i'd like right now is tomoyo | 20:01 |
| M4rtinK | already on 3.12 by default :) | 20:01 |
| elenril | to put the userspace blobs in their place | 20:01 |
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| vgrade | coderus: clean mic image boots to welcome screen then black screen after Please Wait | 20:25 |
| vgrade | something amiss in home | 20:26 |
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| vgrade | have home now | 21:25 |
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| artemma | what was the resource policy all audio apps should use? | 21:38 |
| artemma | libqtresource? | 21:38 |
| artemma | or something like this | 21:38 |
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| fk_lx | artemma: libaudioresource | 21:52 |
| artemma | hmm.. .. ah, it's just called audio, but in fact is not about audio only, right? | 21:52 |
| * artemma actually wants to acquire camera for flashlight | 21:53 | |
| artemma | nope, that's libresourceqt5 | 21:55 |
| artemma | and it looks like it's not in the list of libs allowed on harbour, hmm | 21:55 |
| elenril | any way to lock the device manually, instead of waiting for a timeout? | 22:00 |
| artemma | elenril: press Power button | 22:00 |
| elenril | tried that, does not work | 22:01 |
| artemma | worksforme | 22:01 |
| artemma | you might be experiencing a bug | 22:01 |
| elenril | weird | 22:01 |
| artemma | try rebooting | 22:01 |
| * elenril tries | 22:01 | |
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| elenril | nope, still doesn't lock | 22:02 |
| artemma | elenril: I can only say that it's not how it is supposed to be | 22:03 |
| artemma | some software or hardware issue | 22:03 |
| artemma | maybe some Jolla ppl can answer (not me) | 22:03 |
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| elenril | oh well, will have to investigate more closely tomorrow | 22:04 |
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| fk_lx | besides who needs to lock a phone :-P | 22:04 |
| ln- | i'm trying to build the git version of helloworld-pro-sailfish, and a strange error "/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.vSmSFQ: line 34: : command not found" (full output: http://fpaste.org/71791/90773832/ ) question 1: why? question 2: should i be able to find that rpm-tmp.vSmSFQ file on the mersdk vm, as i don't see it there? | 22:05 |
| artemma | ln-: funny. That was supposed to start qmake and compilation to my understanding | 22:06 |
| artemma | looks like a broken project config or toolset config | 22:06 |
| netzvieh | elenril: locking like swiping down? | 22:07 |
| artemma | ln-: are you able to build other projects? | 22:07 |
| coderus | elenril: go to clock screen and swipe down :) | 22:08 |
| artemma | Can I somehow see from makefile or build logs which copy of a library I am actually linking to? | 22:09 |
| * artemma wants to ship own copy of gstreamer with the app and needs to make sure it is the one that is actually used | 22:09 | |
| ln- | artemma: yes, e.g. the 0.4.4 release of helloworld-pro seems to build fine. | 22:10 |
| ln- | still i can't be sure some config somewhere isn't broken. | 22:11 |
| artemma | ln-: hmm, that is the latest version if I remember correctly | 22:11 |
| * artemma goes to check git | 22:11 | |
| artemma | there were a couple of small changes after it, but they were about spelling and qml, nothing that would affect compilation | 22:12 |
| artemma | BTW, I need to make a new release with these changes probably | 22:12 |
| artemma | ln-: I'd try usual Clean All, Run qmake, rebuild | 22:13 |
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| ln- | (yeah, i'm the one who contributed the spelling fix) | 22:14 |
| netzvieh | hmm i get bash: /opt/sdk/harbour-helloworld-pro-sailfish: is a directory when trying to run it on the vm | 22:16 |
| netzvieh | did i forget something? | 22:16 |
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| artemma | netzvieh, do deployment by RPM | 22:18 |
| artemma | netzvieh: you are trying delployment by copying files. It may or may not work | 22:18 |
| netzvieh | ah makes sense | 22:18 |
| ln- | artemma: running qmake after clean all results in the same error. | 22:21 |
| artemma | :/ | 22:22 |
| artemma | well, message seems to tell that sdk fails to launch some generated script (one that launches make?) | 22:23 |
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| artemma | ln-: I am not sure what happens. Will see tomorrow if I get the same | 22:23 |
| artemma | ln-: I am busy now, if you are into helping, try cheking out in the same directory 0.4-4 version and see if that builds | 22:24 |
| ln- | artemma: ok, thanks. i'll let you know if i find a solution or workaround myself tonight. | 22:24 |
| artemma | and then try other commits in between. If it is some code change indeed, you'll identify it this way | 22:24 |
| artemma | I'd guess some configuration issue though | 22:24 |
| artemma | think there are just 9 commits, so 3-4 trials will nail down the faulty one if it's faulty code change indeed | 22:25 |
| artemma | how do I know what PKGCONFIG += gstreamer-0.10 is doing? | 22:26 |
| artemma | Where do I see the pkgconfigs contents? | 22:26 |
| artemma | coderus: happy birthday, BTW! Have lots of luck with you rus code! :) | 22:26 |
| ln- | i suppose somebody else would have already mentioned this issue if it really was a problem in the git version itself. | 22:26 |
| netzvieh | ln-: you could try the windows way and reinstall the sdk :P | 22:28 |
| artemma | Where do I find *.pc files SDK build is using? Somewhere deep in mer machine or mapped to main drive? | 22:30 |
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| artemma | found gstreamer-0.10.pc on SDK | 22:35 |
| netzvieh | i had no failures with the latest git version of hw-p-s | 22:35 |
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| artemma | Fatal error: nothing provides libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) needed by | 23:26 |
| artemma | yet I have requires libc.so.6 in .yaml | 23:27 |
| artemma | what's correct syntax for requiring libc? | 23:27 |
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| artemma | copying line from harbour instructions don't seem to help - https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/sdk-harbour-rpmvalidator/blob/master/allowed_requires.conf | 23:29 |
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| artemma | ah, maybe Sailfish repos just doesn't have GLIBC_2.0 , but only newer ones | 23:30 |
| ln- | artemma: regarding my earlier issue: i figured out the reason, and even a solution. CRLF line-endings in the .spec won't work. (and unrelatedly, they don't work in *.sh either) | 23:33 |
| artemma | ln-: interesting, thanks | 23:34 |
| ln- | i can submit a pull request | 23:34 |
| ln- | there aren't CRLF line-endings in the .spec per se, but unless told otherwise, some git clients may normalize everything to CRLF on windows. at least SourceTree does. | 23:35 |
| juke | that's horrible | 23:35 |
| ln- | i can see good arguments for and against normalization | 23:37 |
| artemma | how do I install strace tool to sailfish? | 23:41 |
| Yaniel | is it in mer-tools? | 23:41 |
| artemma | Yaniel: I don't know | 23:41 |
| ln- | pull request created | 23:42 |
| Yaniel | pkcon search name strace | 23:42 |
| * artemma is low skilled in understanding *nix tools | 23:42 | |
| dschoepe | artemma: If it isn't in mer-tools, you can try copying over a binary from the arm distribution of fedora and hope for the best | 23:42 |
| artemma | thanks! I was looking for how to search pckon! | 23:42 |
| Yaniel | and ssu er mer-tools first if you have not done that before | 23:42 |
| artemma | hmm, pckon didn't find it | 23:42 |
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| artemma | ssu er mer-tools? | 23:43 |
| dschoepe | artemma: you might have to run pkcon update before | 23:43 |
| artemma | running update | 23:43 |
| dschoepe | (after running `ssu er mer-tools'. or was it ar?) | 23:44 |
| Yaniel | er for enable-repo | 23:44 |
| Yaniel | ar for add-repo | 23:44 |
| Yaniel | since mer-tools is added by default (but disabled) you need er here | 23:44 |
| artemma | Hmm, "Installing packages" seems to be stuck at 66% | 23:44 |
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| artemma | for a minute or so | 23:45 |
| artemma | okay, now it's done | 23:45 |
| artemma | so now I updated | 23:45 |
| artemma | pkcon still doesn't find strace | 23:45 |
| Yaniel | pkcon refresh reloads package lists | 23:45 |
| artemma | doing | 23:45 |
| artemma | it seems it's got quite a long list :) | 23:46 |
| artemma | refreshed strace is still not found | 23:51 |
| artemma | pckon refreshed. strace is still not found | 23:51 |
| artemma | or shall I now install mer tools somehow? Sorry, I didn't understand instructions on how to enable mer tools | 23:52 |
| artemma | or there are erros | 23:52 |
| artemma | when I try running "ssu er mer-tools", I get many lines of the same error: | 23:53 |
| artemma | [D] NetworkService::setPath:447 - void NetworkService::setPath(const QString&) "Method "GetProperties" with signature "" on interface "net.connman.Service" doesn't exist | 23:53 |
| dschoepe | artemma: Are you running it as root? | 23:53 |
| artemma | dschoepe: I thought so, but maybe not | 23:53 |
| artemma | hmm, devel-su doesn't let me in now??? | 23:54 |
| artemma | after pkcon update? | 23:54 |
| * artemma in shock | 23:55 | |
| artemma | ah.. I was connected to emulator maybe... | 23:56 |
| artemma | no, I was not | 23:56 |
| artemma | okay, now devel-su works after reenabling net access | 23:57 |
| artemma | still ssu fails | 23:57 |
| artemma | hey, do I need to "Allow developer updates" in Settings app? | 23:57 |
| Eztran | No. Very no. | 23:57 |
| artemma | It has SSU heading | 23:57 |
| artemma | hmm | 23:58 |
| artemma | [D] NetworkService::setPath:447 - void NetworkService::setPath(const QString&) "Method "GetProperties" with signature "" on interface "net.connman.Service" doesn't exist | 23:58 |
| artemma | I am still at that then | 23:58 |
| artemma | under devel-su as well | 23:58 |
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| Eztran | Does look like adding the repo was the problem - strace is definitely in mer-tools. | 23:59 |
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