Saturday, 2014-01-25

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AL13NmeShell: i haven't tried it yet... but otoh, the btrfs version is not that high (kernel 3.4)00:13
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jupajacoderus: and here it is :D01:01
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satmdhello there01:05
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netzviehdamn I'm too stupid to use that sdk ... I have a cpp file in src/client which includes a header file from src/common, or it should01:34
netzviehgives a no such file error01:35
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netzviehwhere can i set project specific PATH?01:37
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coderusnetzvieh: you can use #include "../common/header.h"02:57
coderusnetzvieh: or set INCLUDEPATH += src/common in .pro file03:08
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Indianhola any one awake on Saturday morning06:50
smokexo/ Saturday afternoon06:50
Indiansmokex,can we discuss anything about sailfish in here like porting to n9 and such or is it forbidden06:52
smokexI think it can be discussed but #n950club and #nemomobile-porters are for that06:53
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Stskeepsnot really forbidden, just as long as it's understood it's an unofficial undertaking06:54
Stskeepsbut yeah, those channels exist for that06:54
IndianStskeeps, any idea if jolla guys going to release more mobiles with smaller screens.06:56
StskeepsIndian: my wife asked me the exact same thing and i said i can't answer that :P06:58
IndianI am like shall get n9 and port sailfish or buy jolla06:59
Indianbut 4.5 is too big for me06:59
Stskeepsin practice n9 will never be a complete port, so if you want a product, you should buy a jolla phone :)06:59
Indianbut I want to wait if they release smaller mobiles07:00
Stskeepsother possibilities might be in future07:01
Indianho yah saw that07:01
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iekkugood morning08:02
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Sfiet_Konstantinhello iekku !08:16
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iekkuahoy Sfiet_Konstantin09:09
smokexhyvää huomenta merimiehet!09:10
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iekkusmokex, entäs naiset?09:37
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Bloobmerimies on ammattinimike joka kattaa naisetkin :)09:39
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narchieeikös siitä ollut lakialoite joskus vai muistanko väärin09:43
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faenilkhertan, o/13:47
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khertana little hour lag :)13:49
faenilkhertan, ah, sorry :D13:50
elenrilwhere does one get the source for the kernel used in jolla13:51
Stskeepselenril: but be careful, power brings responsibility13:52
khertanfaenil, wrote morning this morning ... but didn't press enter key :)13:52
faenilkhertan, ehehe13:53
elenrilStskeeps: thanks13:53
elenrilnot going to build my own for now, just want to see what's there on top of the official tree13:53
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hoelzroso I submitted my app and it was rejected; I was recommended to check the 'Harbour Tools' view in the SDK control center.  However, I only see Targets, Toolchains, and Updates.  Any idea what I'm doing wrong?16:21
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hoelzroah, it seems I may have to install an update to the SDK16:24
jukecan you check the rpm without submiting there?16:25
hoelzrojuke: that's what I was told16:25
jukeoh, nice16:25
hoelzroit's supposed to catch some of the more common mistakes16:25
jukei was just needing that16:25
hoelzrooh, there we go16:25
hoelzrojuke: yeah, just update your sdk16:25
jukehoelzro, thanks!16:26
hoelzronp =)16:26
hoelzrojuke: what are you making?16:26
jukehoelzro, netradar/nettitutka16:26
hoelzroso something useful =)16:27
* hoelzro is making a sudoku app16:27
jukethere isn't enough games in jolla store16:27
hoelzroit's just first on my "to make" list16:28
hoelzrojust to get acquainted with Qt16:28
hoelzroand the OS16:28
hoelzroI'm really impressed with how easy it is to get a working prototype16:29
jukeyeah, i also haven't done any qt stuff before, i'm actually just porting the harmattan app to sailfish16:29
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jukeor meego app, too many names for the same thing...16:30
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hoelzroyeah, I can't keep them straight either16:31
John24guys guys :)16:31
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John24once again I got an xml related question16:31
John24I got an xmllistmodel that at the moment is storing file/folder data which I want to use a simple file browser16:32
John24I got no idea what to use? I see listitem listview menus and ect and not sure which one would be the best to use with xmllistmodel16:32
John24or tbh how to use it properly16:33
John24I want to allow users to browse files on their PC's and file and directories are stored in xml file16:34
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Accedoes someone know which package has qmlscene in it?16:39
faenilAcce, try qt5-qtdeclarative-qmlscene16:43
M4rtinKweird, I'm getting this:16:44
M4rtinK$ rpm -qf /usr/bin/qmlscene16:44
faenilmm :/16:45
coderusJohn24: share xml16:45
faenilcould be that it's been moved16:45
M4rtinKwell, pkcon install qt5-qtdeclarative-qmlscene16:45
M4rtinKor at least does not throw an error16:45
faenilthe qtchooser might just be meta-packaging stuff16:46
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M4rtinKwell, even if it was installed due to a metapackage16:46
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M4rtinKIMHO the metapackage should only have dependencies without any file and the files are owned by the actual packages it references16:47
John24give me a sec picture will do better16:47
faenilM4rtinK, not sure why that's done sorry16:48
M4rtinKno problem, jut wondering :)16:48
Accefaenil I found that too with the search, but qmlscene binary is not installed.. maybe it is just not in the path then hmm16:48
John24there we go:
John24already got xmlrequest working and filing the xmllist model no issues16:49
John24just how do I display the folders and files to the user?16:49
Acceqtchooser worked, thanks!16:50
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baltaHey, has anybody here experience accessing the camera using QCamera? I tried it in QML using Camera and VideoOutput elements, and using QCamera and an QAbstractVideoSurface as ViewFinder but both times I get a message like: CameraBin error: "No common caps"16:50
M4rtinKBTW, looks like both actually install qmlscene :)16:50
M4rtinK$ rpm -q -filesbypkg qt5-qtdeclarative-qmlscene16:50
M4rtinKqt5-qtdeclarative-qmlscene /usr/lib/qt5/bin/qmlscene16:50
M4rtinKbut only the one from qtchooser actually goes to $PATH16:51
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faenilcool :)16:52
faeniland maybe the one in bin is just a symlink? :D16:52
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faenil/usr/bin, that is16:53
M4rtinKqmlscene -> qtchooser16:54
Accewell, now i can do some quick tests etc on the device while waiting for the bus :)16:54
M4rtinKand qtchooser probably runs the qmscene from that qt folder16:54
Accethanks again to both of you!16:55
M4rtinKno problem :)16:55
faenil:) np16:59
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M4rtinKbtw, that's the status of midnight commander availability ?17:03
M4rtinKI've seen some links pointing to a package by nealdk but they seem to be dead for some reason17:05
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StskeepsM4rtinK: he got upset at users doing something stupid or something like that..17:19
M4rtinKStskeeps: users doing stupid things ? unthinkable !17:20
M4rtinKStskeeps: so I guess I'll have to do something about the mc package I have in my Mer OBS project :)17:21
M4rtinKStskeeps: btw, I have a RFE/bugreport for the mer-tools repository :)17:21
Stskeeps-> lbt17:22
M4rtinKlbt: vim in mer-tools is compiled without Python support ! :)17:22
M4rtinKlbt: to be specific, I'm getting this: Error: Required vim compiled with +python17:22
Stskeepsthat's in mer, rather, but, there's a good reason for that..17:23
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valdur55M4rtinK: how you get this error?17:23
Stskeepsit introduces a bad circular dependency17:23
lbtit's not a problem anymore, we have emacs now17:24
M4rtinKvaldur55: when trying to use the jedi-vim plugin17:24
M4rtinKwell, don't we have an OS already ? :)17:24
lbtI'm working on a Qt composer that uses emacs frames17:25
M4rtinKyeah, why not :)17:25
M4rtinKEmacs is crazy, IIRC you can directly open PDFs with it now :)17:26
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lbtI have no idea why vim/python should interdepend though17:27
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M4rtinKvim compiled with python support supports plugins written in Python17:30
M4rtinKand the jedi-vim plugin that provides various Python development features (completion, documentation, renaming, show usage) etc.17:31
lbtM4rtinK: try copying vi to your home area and building it with python enabled?17:31
M4rtinKis such a Python plugin17:32
lbt*nod* I understand what it is17:32
lbtI don't understand why python depends on vim ...17:32
M4rtinKoh, that's why17:32
M4rtinKthat's weird17:32
lbtbut I'm sure it does if Stskeeps says so17:32
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M4rtinKok, I'll look at building it in my OBS project then :)17:33
lbtit may be easiest to have vi-python in tools if there's enough demand and it's done sensibly17:35
M4rtinKwell, so far it is a bit of an edge-case17:38
M4rtinKand all other plugins are seem to work fine17:38
M4rtinKso there are probably not many Python plugins17:39
M4rtinKbut, if there is demand, why not :)17:39
M4rtinKso adding it to the TODO pile :)17:39
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jupajaSfiet_Konstantin: can you add me to the German Gruppe at transifex will help17:45
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Sfiet_Konstantinjupaja: you can ask iirc17:49
Sfiet_Konstantinor did you already did ?17:49
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jupajaSfiet_Konstantin: no will di this ;)17:51
jupajaSfiet_Konstantin: thx17:51
jupajaSfiet_Konstantin:  is not online17:52
Sfiet_Konstantinjupaja: what's not online ?17:53
jupajaSfiet_Konstantin: iirc17:54
Sfiet_Konstantiniirc ?17:55
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jupajaSfiet_Konstantin:  u sad "jupaja: you can ask iirc"  is it not an user her?17:55
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Sfiet_KonstantinIIRC = if I recall correctly17:57
Sfiet_KonstantinI wanted to say: "you can apply if I remember correctly"17:58
Sfiet_Konstantinand anyway you got accepted ;)17:58
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jupajaokay :D did it already (apply)18:02
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jupajaSfiet_Konstantin: so looks good / but have no Idea how to say it checked but now its all translated and correct18:17
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xcv__hi everyone18:31
xcv__I'm writing an application to run custom scripts easily and I can't find a way to #include "lua.h"18:32
xcv__do I need to install something in the mersdk vm?18:32
coderusxcv__: lua-devel18:33
xcv__I tried installing it, but I just got the version for the vm os, not the cross-compiler18:34
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coderuswhat you mean?18:34
coderusgo to SDK management and install package from there, not from ssh18:35
xcv__what is exactly SDK management?18:36
jukein the ide18:37
jukeone of the side tabs18:37
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xcv__okay, I'm in it18:38
jukepress targets -> arm -> search your package and install18:38
jukei guess18:38
xcv__found it!18:39
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SieniMaagiHi all, urgent help needed (with my Jolla)18:44
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SieniMaagitroubleshoot: the phone crashed while trying to use facebook, now it just keeps "turning on" as in it keeps showing the Jolla logo on the screen (flashing on and off) and the led keeps turning white and off18:45
SieniMaagiI've tried to reboot it (nothing happens with the power button, except it flashes the red led and then keeps doing the above)18:45
SieniMaagiand I've tried to take the battery out, but that does nothing (it just begins to do the same shit over and over again)18:45
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baltaSieniMaagi: I've never done that but can you use the recovery mode?
SieniMaaginot looking too good :D18:57
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f00barbazbattery flat?19:02
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SieniMaagishouldn't be19:05
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SieniMaaginow it stopped saying anything, so I'll keep it in recharge for an hour or so just in case :S19:06
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vertusHi all!19:11
vertusWhen Qt5.2 will be supported by SDK?19:11
baltaIs now anybody here who can help me by my problem accessing the camera in Qt?19:12
specialwhen the phone is updated to it. It's a difficult update.19:12
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vertusspecial: can I compile qt modules with current SDK?19:14
specialvertus: theoretically. which qt modules..?19:14
vertusspecial: Qt Enginio for example19:14
vertusin Qt 5.2 this is already a part of Qt19:15
vertusBut for 5.1 I can compile this19:15
specialah, yes, you can19:16
vertusspecial: is enginio libs will be deployed to phone?19:16
specialofficially, you mean?19:17
vertusI mean after I compiled my app and create rpm, is Enginio libs will be in rpm?19:17
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jukethe dependency will be in the rpm19:20
vertusjuke: ok, good!19:20
jukeif you want to push it to harbour, check if the library is allowed19:20
jukeotherwise you need to include it in the rpm19:20
vertuswhat is harbour?19:21
jukejolla store19:21
vertusok, but as I understand now the rpm is generated by qt creator? Is it right?19:21
vertusjuke: is Enginio will be included?19:23
vertusIf I will compiled him as qt module19:23
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juke check here for more19:24
vertusOk, thank yo!19:25
meShelldoes someone know what mkspec/conf-file ist used when compiling for "SailfishOS-armv7hl" on MerSDK? especially the used QMAKE_LFLAGS19:28
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vertusIs exust Design Style document? I read this but didn't saw color sheme themes info.19:49
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kaltsimeShell: no special sailfish mkspec, just a normal linux-g++19:55
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meShellok thanks and so inlude those from common ...19:57
kaltsithe build is done in an sb2 (scratchbox2) session inside the mersdk virtual machine, which makes the build environment look like a "native" arm environment19:59
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meShelland using the files from /srv/mer/targets/SailfishOS-armv7hl/usr/share/qt5/mkspecs/common/ right?20:05
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meShellok, great, so at least I know where to stat ... trying to build a platformplugin as static ...20:06
meShellmaybe I should ask in #qt if that's possible at all ...20:07
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wickwireHi guys, has anyone tried sqlite with a sailfishOS app?20:12
wickwireI'm trying to use this howto from the qtproject20:12
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wickwirebut somehow it isn't working, the function isn't being called I don't think20:12
wickwirebecause I'm not getting a console log with connection errors - I've also added a try catch20:13
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jobe-mwickwire: I have used LS with my app some time ago and it worked fine. But I changed to QSettings for storing my app settings. It was more convenient. If you want to have a look, here is a link into commit history:
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wickwirejobe-m: thanks for sharing - in the meantime I figured out that the sql statement strings had a syntax error so it's working fine now20:35
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opt1musdamn you21:07
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john24I am trying to get my first page as dialog which would allow to swipe to another page22:05
john24similar to the dock file manager22:05
john24is there a simple way of doing so?22:05
john24essentially i want to have additional controls on another page and access it with a swipe to the left22:06
artemmajohn24: I think you need to read about Attached pages22:10
artemmacheck PageStack reference22:10
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john24I'm reading through it, the lack of code examples makes it harder22:13
john24for someone starting off it's quite hard22:13
artemmawell, just attach empty page and see what happens :)22:13
* artemma never tried attached pages, just recall the docs22:14
M4rtinKjohn24: or just find app that does what you want and then looks in /usr/share/<appname>/qml to see how the app does it :)22:14
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john24I only seem to find a popattached fucntion not just attach a page22:18
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john24well the app that does what I want is Jolla store22:24
john24you swipe left for more info22:24
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john24    onStatusChanged: {             if (status === PageStatus.Active && pageStack.depth === 1) {                 pageStack.pushAttached("AddControls.qml", {});             }         }22:45
john24can be found here :
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* artemma just posted a talk proposal to the conference and impressed how cool his company actually is. You know, it's like human being is never as close to perfection as when he is writing his resume23:01
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