Tuesday, 2014-03-18

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Dr_Cainso, after the update some of my native apps "can't access the internet", they just get stuck in that refresh/loading animation02:42
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Dr_Cainstuff that can access the internet is the web browser, and the android stack02:42
specialeven after a reboot?02:47
Dr_Cainkind of annoying02:49
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specialwlan or cellular02:51
specialI'd try toggling them off and on via settings, maybe try enabling flight mode, etc and try to get whatever state it's stuck in fixed..02:51
Dr_Cain<special> wlan or cellular <- both02:52
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Dr_Cainwonder if it has anything to do with this https://together.jolla.com/question/6113/lots-of-connection-errors-while-on-wlanwifi/03:12
Dr_Cainbecause I get that, but stuff was still working03:13
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Dr_Cainstill doesn't seem to be fixed03:19
Dr_Caingranted, this didn't happen on my regular connection. I'm currently on a prepaid simcard03:19
Dr_Cainthat apparenly puts you behind a NAT, while my old one didn't03:19
Dr_Cainhow does sailfish 'detect the internet connection"?03:19
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Dr_Cainthis shitty Aztech router/ap isn't helping either03:28
Dr_Cainmy own AP running Tomato-usb was working fine03:29
Dr_Cainalso I can't connect to the jolla store03:36
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lpottersailfish uses wpa_supplicant and connman04:32
Dr_Cainhmm, well wpa_supplicant has obviously connected04:39
Dr_Cainsince I can SSH into the phone, and use the web browser04:39
Dr_Cainso I guess most of the non working apps are asking connman if the internet is up?04:40
lpotterwpa_supplicant s for wifi scanning and such04:40
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lpotterwell if you can use the browser than it's just the store being a bit busy with the update04:40
Dr_Cainthat doesn't explain why mail, tweetian, quickddit and friends are stuck on their 'updating loop' animation04:42
Dr_Cainalso, I can't check for updates from the UI now, nothing happening04:43
Dr_Cainnot saying "up to date"04:43
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Dr_Cainhmm, still getting that wifi exclamation mark04:49
lpotterthat just means something _might_ be wrong. could be no dns/route or just the online check failed04:50
lpotterbut it might still work04:50
Dr_Cainyeah, it does work, in some apps04:50
Dr_Cainthe regular jolla browser works04:50
Dr_Cainwebcat does not work04:50
Dr_Cainjust get stuck on the loading animation04:50
Dr_Cainso I'm wondering if they try to access the internet in a different way04:51
lpotterare you using a proxy?04:51
Dr_Cainwonder if something got botched in the update, I know I forgot to disable the mer-extras repo04:56
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Dr_Cainstill not updated :/05:13
specialhas to be done very carefully05:13
Dr_Cainhmm, google chat is not connecting while facebook chat is05:14
* special runs away05:15
specialconnectivity isn't my area.. messaging is :p05:15
Dr_Cainugh, I wonder if I should just do a factory reset05:17
Dr_Cainpita to sideload the playstore and all apps again though05:17
lpotterhave you rebooted the phone?05:27
Dr_Cainyes, several times now05:29
Dr_Caintime to start digging in the logs05:29
Dr_Cainugh, how do I get journalctl to not wrap?05:31
Dr_Cainerr.. to wrap05:32
Dr_Cainit breaks some lines now05:32
Dr_Cainso I don't get the full output05:32
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Dr_Cainhmm, now I can't sign into the google account05:36
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Dr_CainI just end up on a blank page05:36
Dr_Cainwith "accept authentification" at the top, clicking it makes nothign happen05:36
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Dr_Cainhmm it might have dropped the internet connection there05:38
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Dr_Cainhmm, now I'm unable to sign in to the jolla account either..05:46
specialyou are cursed05:46
Dr_Cainit's stuck on "Verifying sign-in details"05:46
Dr_Cainthis update didn't go very well05:46
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Dr_Cainmost of europe should be waking up soon05:48
Dr_Cainwe'll see if we'll get a shitstorm then, or if I'm the only one :p05:48
specialI haven't personally heard of anything like this in testing, at least.05:48
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Dr_Cainthat's somewhat reassuring I guess05:49
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Dr_CainI wonder if this happened because I had mer-repos enabled in pkcon05:49
Dr_Cainerr.. mer-extras05:49
specialwhat is mer-extras?05:50
Dr_Cain Enabled    mer-tools                 mer-tools05:50
specialmer-tools is fine05:50
Dr_Cainthat's the one05:50
specialeveryone doing development uses mer-tools05:50
Dr_CainI just didn't remember the name correctly05:50
Dr_CainI needed a few things from there05:50
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Dr_Cainwell I'm able to sign in on account.jolla.com at least05:52
Dr_Cainbut on the phone it's stuck on "signing in"05:52
Nokius1is there some one else with the effect that sometime the cover are not there ony the app name?05:55
specialfor what applications?05:56
Nokius1special: stock apps like gallery settings05:56
specialdid that start with yesterday's update?05:56
Nokius1special: or i dont had it before05:57
specialwhen are you seeing it?05:57
Nokius1didnt saw it happen05:57
Nokius1Try to rehappen it did hapen now have now idea how it happen but had it more than ones this morning06:00
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Nokius1if it hapes ones again I hope to tell how it happend :-/06:02
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* Dr_Cain saves history in preparation for device reset06:03
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Dr_Cainenabling developer mode again takes a while06:14
specialit involves store, and store is probably getting hit by people updating again06:15
Dr_Cainoh dear06:16
Dr_CainI just reset the devlice though06:16
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Dr_Cainnow on
Dr_Cainand no progress bar from those apps you chose in the initial install06:17
Dr_Cainwhen adding the jolla account06:17
specialthere are a lot of things missing in ;)06:18
Dr_Cainhaha indeed06:18
specialnot that long ago, but we've come a long way06:18
Dr_Cainvery true06:20
Dr_Cainugh the first update is to
Dr_Caincan't update straight to latest apparently06:23
Stskeepsyes, has a much saner store client06:23
Dr_CainI guess I should've skipped the initial app download from my initial sign on thne06:25
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* Dr_Cain updates to
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Dr_Cainum, now the display turned black06:53
* Dr_Cain wonders if it was supposed to do that06:53
ruskieyou didn't read the notes did you?06:55
ruskieOnce an OS update notification is received, tap on it and follow the instructions.06:56
ruskieDo __not__ reboot the device while the OS update installation is in progress. The process takes up to 10 minutes. During the update, the device screen might blank out. You may awaken the display by a short press on the power key to monitor the progress. When the upgrade has completed successfully,06:56
ruskie you will see the LED light up red before the device restarts.06:56
Dr_CainI already did it once today06:56
Dr_Cainand stuff broke, if you read the scrollback06:56
Dr_Cainah right06:57
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inffy_what is the minimium requirement for the device lock code?06:58
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inffy_in the changelog it says there is changes done to it on the newest update06:58
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* Dr_Cain upgrades again07:21
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Dr_Cainwell that's interesting07:49
Dr_Caineven after a reset, the store is still fucked in
Dr_Cainit did work in
Dr_CainI can't connect to it07:49
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coderusstore working with troubles because of software update07:50
Juubalot of people connecting to the store now07:51
Dr_Caingetting the "sorry, cannot connect to Store right now"07:51
Juubai guess07:51
coderusyesterday it cant load applications list07:51
Dr_Cainis it working for you guys?07:51
Sailor-2getherit's working for me07:51
coderusbut can search and install apps :)07:51
Juubadunno, i'm upgrading atm07:51
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coderussometimes it working, sometimes not07:52
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coderussometimes it takes time for loaging07:52
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Dr_Caindoesn't work at all for me, no loading or anything07:52
Dr_Cainyou just get the cannot connect to store07:52
Dr_Cainlike it's not even trying07:52
* Dr_Cain is wondering if this shitty wifi AP is to blame07:53
Dr_Cainin combination with connman07:53
Dr_Cainthe web browser does work though07:53
coderusDr_Cain: heh, then your internet not working? :)07:55
Dr_Cainbut it is07:55
Dr_CainI can ping stuff from the terminal07:55
Dr_Cainand the web browser is working07:55
Dr_Cainbut I can't access the store07:56
Dr_CainI had the same issue before i reset the phone07:56
Dr_Cainbut then a bunch of different apps didn't work07:56
Dr_Cainhmm, maybe I should try USB networking07:56
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coderus13:53 < Dr_Cain> the web browser does work though07:57
coderuswhat it means?07:57
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Dr_Cainit means that I can access sites through built in web browser07:58
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jussiDr_Cain: tried on mobile data?07:59
Dr_Cainsame issue there, but this mobile data is weird07:59
coderuscheck ssu re and ssu fl07:59
Dr_CainI'm on some prepaid card right now, and I can't test and compare with my regular one07:59
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Dr_CainDevice release is currently:
phaeronDr_Cain: try updating store credentials ?08:01
Dr_CainDevice flavour is currently: release08:01
phaeronthat is jolla account08:01
Dr_Cainphaeron: ok, I'll try08:02
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Dr_Cain"verifying sign-in details. please wait"08:02
Dr_Cainand then it's just stays there doing that08:03
Dr_Cainso I'm guessing this is the same issue I had before, some apps can't access the internet in
Dr_Cainwhile the terminal, android layer and web browser can08:04
specialblaming your wlan router is a good bet?08:04
special(in combination with something that changed on device)08:04
Dr_Cainbut now I can't install any other apps to try08:04
Dr_CainI'm blaming connman!08:05
Dr_Cainlet's see if i can find another wlan router08:05
specialvery odd.08:05
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Dr_Cainvery odd indeed08:08
Dr_CainI'm betting connman is saying, "oh there's bad/no internet here, bettery not try to connect"08:08
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phaeronDr_Cain: does your ISP have a transparent proxy ?08:14
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Dr_Cainit might, but I don't think so08:26
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Dr_Cainwouldn't surprise me though, Singtel doing stupid stuff like that08:26
Dr_Cainoh lawd08:30
Dr_CainThe proxy server has announced itself as 1.1 qt-mfc3:8008:30
phaeronI might have had the same issue before actually. and connman behaves weirdly08:30
phaeronI had to disable proxy using in connman08:31
phaeronlet me dig up the script08:31
Dr_Cainhuh? how do I do that?08:31
phaeronDr_Cain: first install connman-test using pkcon08:33
phaeronthen run /usr/lib/connman/test/get-proxy-autoconfig08:34
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Dr_Cainwhat happens then?08:34
phaeronit will tell you what connman thinks the proxy should be08:34
phaeronif it doesn't Method = direct then it could be an issue08:35
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phaeronthen you can use /usr/lib/connman/test/set-proxy to tell it _not_ to use a proxy08:35
Dr_Cainlet's try then08:35
phaeronforce it that is08:35
Dr_Cainit says Method = direct08:37
Dr_Cainso.. uh .. no dice :V08:37
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Dr_Cainthis is kind of annoying08:40
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Juubai can see SDcard on file Explorer, but I cannot see my Music Directory that is on the card...08:42
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phaeronJuuba: sdcard mount location changed, file explorer needs to be fixed08:43
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Juubai mean...08:44
Juubaon Windows Explorer :D08:44
Juubaover USB08:44
Juubabut yeah, the File Explorer -app also failed08:44
Juubai can find it tho08:44
Juuba in /mnt/sdcard08:44
inffy_ /media/sdcard08:45
Juubawhatever, but.. why doesn't Windows see the Music -dir?08:45
Juubai see Playlists and WPSystem, and my vault.tgz-backup08:45
Juubaokay so /mnt/sdcard is not the same as /media/sdcard08:46
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Juubathis is confusing08:47
Juubaandroid has saved some stuff on /mnt/sdcard so I thought that was the correct directory08:47
Juubabut now I see it is not.08:48
Juubathere's also /data/sdcard which is the same as /mnt/sdcards08:48
Juuba /mnt/sdcard08:48
fluxI have /mnt/sdcard which is a symlink to /data/sdcard, which is on the / volume and has lots of android stuff in it08:50
fluxwhereas /media/sdcard is my actual sdcard, and only has data I put in there08:50
Juubaso.. that is not "really" on the SDCard08:50
Juubaeffing confusing08:50
fluxyeah, I would agree08:50
fluxthough it appears android apps like to put a lot of stuff on sdcard08:51
Juubai'll write a Question about it...08:51
fluxthings that might belong to the system really08:51
Juubahave to formulate it a bit on my head... as a non-linux geek this is weird and confusing08:51
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fluxmaybe it should be an option to move/link /data/sdcard to /media/sdcard08:51
fluxbut personally I think the current choice is quite pragmatic08:52
Juubai see someone already made it https://together.jolla.com/question/5755/how-to-let-android-apps-to-write-to-real-sdcard/08:52
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coderushow to let android give root to applications?08:53
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coderusvote please08:57
Juubaah it was you :D08:58
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Juubahmmm, cant seem to find it now, forgotten... how to force a gallery/media database refresh09:20
Juubabrain cannot compile a suitable search in together.jolla now09:20
Juubarefresh tracker, thank you!09:22
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Juubaanyone have idea why Jolla Media Player does not show my Guns n' roses albums under Artist, but it does show them under Albums...09:30
Juubanow you see them:   http://sisuguild.fi/~juuba/jolla/mplayer/5-albums-GNR-albums.jpg09:31
Juubanow you dont: http://sisuguild.fi/~juuba/jolla/mplayer/4-Artist-no-albums.jpg09:31
Juubaif I do "List all songs" from the Artist-view, it does show all the songs...09:31
gobbeit knows that GNR is not an artist ;)09:32
Juubajust funny09:32
Juubait did that for other artists as well, but I was able to fix them by checking the mp3-tags09:32
Juubabut this one is ...09:32
Juubaand Now you see them all:  http://sisuguild.fi/~juuba/jolla/mplayer/7-artist-all%20songs-visible.jpg09:34
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Juubaoh *snap* ... "File Browser" application decided to follow symlink when I said "delete" it09:43
Juubai see someone posted this already :  https://together.jolla.com/question/1342/bug-media-player-in-album-artist-overview/09:47
Juubacommented with my screenshots09:47
coderusI'm just using QuasarMX09:48
coderusits perfect :)09:48
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Juubaalso, fyi: store app: File Browser naturally followed symlink when I was trying to just delete that link... ohwell10:17
Juubarecursively deleted everything in there10:18
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coderuslol :)10:34
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* coderus updating N9 to just for fun now10:46
fingaon sunday i was here and asked if it's possible to get sailfishOS running on my geeksphone revolution10:51
fingapeople told me that its kind of easy with cyanogenmod running10:52
fingaso i posted that into the geeksphone forum (http://forum.geeksphone.com/index.php?topic=5949.0) maybe you can share a docu with how to do it with cyanogenmod10:54
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ChimChimGood day lads :)11:06
ChimChimSo I saw that the 4th update has been released and I guess we will be soon seeing the zip for the N4? :)11:06
Stskeepsyes hopefully11:07
Stskeepswe need to just get off the long night last night and get things in order11:07
ChimChimCan´t wait!11:08
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coderusvgrade: ping11:25
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TiLormIs it possible to get SailfishOS running on your own phone?11:32
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leinirTiLorm: that depends greatly on what you mean by "your own phone" ;)11:33
avivbyoSo whats up with N4 release im kinda confused11:33
TiLormYeah, I know, I expected that question. Currently I have a Sony Xperia Arc LT15i, but I'm thinking of buying a new phone. What phones are currently supported?11:34
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coderusTiLorm: if CyanogenMod 10.1 available youhave good luck to success11:35
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nahkiss_I don't think there's any official support for anything. There's dev-builds for phones but they are not public, afaik11:36
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TiLormI can get CM10 on it, but not 10.1. What's the differeence between 10 and 10.1?11:39
Juubaofficially: only Jolla-phone i think11:39
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inffy_TiLorm: the android base is different11:40
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inffy_cm10 is Android 4.2 if i remeber right11:40
inffy_or 4.111:40
avivbyoOr 4.311:40
TiLormHm, ok, thanks. Maybe someone got 10.1 running on it. Where is any documentation how to get SailfishOS on a CM10.1 device?11:41
avivbyodepends Cm10.0 = 4.1 Cm10.1=4.2 Cm10.2=4.311:41
StskeepsTiLorm: we're doing this in phases; first to early adopters (nexus 4, samsung galaxy s iii) and a little later on, guides on how to port it, then eventually to users directly11:41
Stskeepssign up with sledges with your devices and name/email11:42
TiLormSo, there's no way to get even if you would have te right phone atm?11:42
StskeepsTiLorm: we were waiting for the latest sailfishos release that came out last night :)11:42
Stskeepsso, you just arrived at bad timing11:43
TiLormWell, it can wait. When should I check again, a week/month?11:43
Stskeepslet's say max 2 weeks, but sign up with a message to 'sledges' and you'll get notified11:44
TiLormThanks, I'll look into it.11:44
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cos-Updated my phone at last. Thanks for everyone involved!12:58
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SireWolf-Sorry my ISP is annoying me more than anyone else.14:22
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Titan_Arumhow does one become an early adopter?14:28
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tbrTitan_Arum: by messaging sledges with email address and explaining motivation.14:29
tbrbeing able to "dive in" and actually contribute to fixes is a plus14:29
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polishchocolateany news about sailfish for nexus 4, guys?15:03
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squiddpolishchocolate: soonish15:03
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SireWolfhey is sailfish running on anything cheap and plentiful yet?15:26
BysmyyrI think jolla is cheap15:28
SireWolfI do too15:29
SireWolfI'm planning to get myself one15:29
SireWolfI was hoping for an older device15:29
SireWolfthat was VERY cheap15:29
Bysmyyrthat is good plan ;P15:29
SireWolfthats all15:29
SireWolfto give away15:30
SireWolfnever mind my charitable purposes15:30
SireWolfif I could afford to subsidize Jolla I would ;)15:30
SireWolfI already wanna get my folk working on Sailfish15:30
coderusMitakuuluu update v0.2-1 https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu15:30
SireWolfits the besst OS for mobile platforms currently being actively developed15:30
squiddcoderus: yay \/15:30
squiddlost my head15:31
SireWolfI'd love to give you guys credit for that15:31
SireWolfbut.. we could be mean instead about Google, Apple, Nokia, Microsoft and etc15:31
SireWolfall either greedy hedonists or incompetent fools15:31
SireWolfya know?15:31
SireWolf(not YOU guys ;) )15:31
squiddfools everywhere15:32
Wntcoderus: is the full source code of mitakuuluu publicly available?15:32
squiddWnt: its  top secret if I remember15:32
squiddNSA eyes only15:32
EztranWnt: no idea if full, but https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu/15:33
SireWolfwhats Mitakuuluu?15:33
EztranWhatsApp client.15:34
squiddSireWolf: its unofficial whatsapp client15:34
WntEztran: yes, I have browsed through that repo, but at least the readme says it's only a bugtracker15:34
EztranMmm, sure. There is code there though as you've probably seen, as I said no idea if that's all of it.15:35
Wntcoderus: what is the licence of Mitakuuluu?15:36
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coderusWnt: WTFPL16:18
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Wntcoderus: ok. Could you add licencing information to the git repository of Mitakuuluu? http://www.wtfpl.net/faq/18:27
Nicd-I don't think it's open source18:27
WntNicd-: at leas some of the C++ / QML code seems to be in https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu18:27
Wnthaven't tried compiling it yet myself18:28
Wntfrom the repository, see persecute2 directory18:28
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Nokius1special: are u here18:29
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Nokius1had it now again swipe the browser to multitask view and Settings has now no  cover settings app is open with main window for easy en and disable of wifi18:31
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Nokius1special: had it now again swipe the browser to multitask view and Settings has now no  cover settings app is open with main window for easy en and disable of wifi18:32
Nokius1special: if i open and swipe settings back to app view still no cover18:32
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coderusWnt: ok, done :)18:53
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flotron2Is it possible to test from the "TOH kit template" the ambience rpm in the PC emulator?19:20
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Wntcoderus: cool, thanks! looking forward to contribute to Mitakuuluu19:29
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tortoisedoc_JUST noticed19:30
tortoisedoc_on the lockscreen, when a call is active, there is a widget to the ongoing call19:30
tortoisedoc_could anyone point me towards the code of this piece?19:30
tortoisedoc_(aka which package implements the functionality?)19:30
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Wnttortoisedoc_: that's odd "grep -r "call in progress" /usr/*" doesn't seem to find the piece of software that's doing it19:38
Wntwhere are the translations stored on the device?19:38
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tortoisedoc_Wnt : yeah exactly19:40
J4ZZHi guys, it's J4ZZ from TMO I could need some sserious help here.19:40
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tortoisedoc_J4ZZ: what kind of help?19:43
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J4ZZ@tortoisedec  I had problems with ssh connection after the latest updated. But got it fixed by disabling NielDKs repo and reinstall the default openssh stuff from jolla. But now installing  wget or any other apps from NielDK (like transmission) fail with "Fatal error: nothing provides libcrypto.so.1.0.0"19:47
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J4ZZso, I though maybe unstalling openssl and reinstalling openssl from jolla might fix this, but it didn't and now even pkcon errors out with "pkcon: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.10: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"19:48
tortoisedoc_definitely a dependency problem (sorry for stating the obvious)19:50
tortoisedoc_disable NielDK, reflash?19:50
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J4ZZI stuck here with Openssl and openssl-libs missing.... But I guess I need the one from Jolla not the packages from NielDK. Could you try to fetch the .rpms for me please?19:51
tortoisedoc_how do I pass them over?19:52
StskeepsJ4ZZ: i can better recommend that you factory reset19:52
J4ZZJust send me a link ;) dropbox or whatever if possible19:52
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J4ZZStskeep: Not an option ;)19:54
tortoisedoc_which package is complaining about the libcrypto being missing?19:55
tortoisedoc_I believe NielDK is linked towards old libraries19:56
J4ZZwget, transmission, strace, pkcon, zypper :D etc... I deleted openssl and openssl-libs with "rpm -e --nodeps" and after that even pkcon and zypper stopped working19:56
pp_J4ZZ: https://releases.jolla.com/releases/ ;)19:57
pp_(but yea, resetting is safest to get a sane system)19:58
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J4ZZpp_: Thanks...20:00
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tbrthp: looking at brainparty in chum, it wants to install "libhybris-sbj-libGLESv1-" - just a bit surprised about it pulling in a hw adaptation package20:08
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Stskeepsit probably depends on libGLESv1something.so20:09
Stskeepsand GLESv1 isn't preinstalled20:09
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tbrStskeeps: so that's expected and OK then?20:12
coderusWnt: UTF1620:13
coderusthere is 00 byte between letters20:13
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tortoisedoc_how to grep in utf16?20:14
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J4ZZOk, got it fixed. Pkcon, ssh, and openssl are working again. But my problem remains. I cannot install NielDKs openssh-6.5p1-5.armv7hl.rpm, nor any other of his packages. Neither in Warehouse nor in fingerterm.... always "Fatal error: nothing provides libcrypto.so.1.0.0 "20:18
coderusI added two devices in QtCreator settings. One over usb, second over wlan.20:20
coderusHow to select device to deploy?20:20
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tortoisedoc_coderus : set default?20:23
tortoisedoc_(from device screen)20:24
tortoisedoc_coderus : *or* from projects -> run?20:24
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pp_recompile src.rpm on current system :P20:28
coderustortoisedoc_: oh, thanks. missed that button :)20:28
tortoisedoc_that is a tricky one :-)20:29
tortoisedoc_caused many headaches on n920:29
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AL13N_jolla_since the update, I have had 2 power failures during phone conv and once while sending sms20:32
AL13N_jolla_never had this before20:33
tortoisedoc_AL13N_jolla : used to have them all the time *before* the update20:33
tortoisedoc_(esp when using wlan + data)20:33
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tbras in full reboot or just UI restart?20:37
* tbr had UI restarts sometimes, but never full reboots20:37
Stskeepscheck uptime..20:38
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Turskii haven't had yet reboots/shutdowns after upgrade, but battery seems to drain double as fast as before20:39
Turskiprobably would be time to write a proper battery logger...20:39
tortoisedoc_tbr : does ui restart trigger pincode entering as well?20:40
tortoisedoc_or does only reboot do it?20:40
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Turskitortoisedoc_: check uptime...20:40
tbrtortoisedoc_: ui restart should not prompt a pin query20:41
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tortoisedoc_as far as I can tell, *before* the update, I had reboots with booting screen + following pin query20:43
tortoisedoc_after update, not anymore - so far20:43
tortoisedoc_which means last 24 hours :)20:43
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AL13N_jolla_tbr: Stskeeps tortoisedoc no, it a powerfail, it doesn't shutdown, it's just off, i have to boot up and no shutdown is logged21:46
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AL13N_jolla_i don't have the ui freeze or ui restarts like last time, and never had reboots or whatnot21:48
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AL13N_jolla_it's just like power is just dead21:48
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AL13N_jolla_but i haven't opened it or removed anything since...21:50
AL13N_jolla_and i still have enough charge21:50
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AL13N_jolla_it's puzzling me since it appears to be hardware, but how could it? and 3 times today? while phoning or sending sms?22:07
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TurskiAL13N_jolla_: i've had those for a long time before upgrade22:10
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AL13N_jolla_it's not like that power down from earlier.22:11
AL13N_jolla_where charge level jumps or something.22:12
TurskiAL13N_jolla_: ?22:12
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AL13N_jolla_there is no actual shutdown.  it's really just like a fail battery22:13
TurskiAL13N_jolla_: yea, i've had plenty of those22:13
Turskithe bad thing is that apparently update didn't fix it then22:13
AL13N_jolla_how did you fix those?22:13
Turskithere's no known fix22:14
Turskii were told that update might fix it22:14
AL13N_jolla_was it during calls as well?22:14
Turskijust randomly whenever it wanted22:14
AL13N_jolla_mine is only during calls or sending sms22:15
Turskihaven't had any during a call, most of times were when i pulled the device from my pocket, unlocked it and tried to do something22:15
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AL13N_jolla_like i send sms, wait for confirmation and black...22:16
Turskiwell, it probably has something to do with high power draw22:16
AL13N_jolla_or i called and after 10 min during call. again22:17
Turskiwhat kind of battery levels those happened?22:17
AL13N_jolla_i dunno if it's that, since the screen was off22:17
Turskiwell, what it showed when you booted it again?22:17
AL13N_jolla_60 45 35?22:18
AL13N_jolla_i haven't charged yet22:18
AL13N_jolla_now I'm at 2222:18
Turskii've had those anywhere between 20-96%22:18
Turskii don't actually remember when my device could go below 30% without shutting down before22:19
AL13N_jolla_i don't think it's power related22:19
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AL13N_jolla_mine  shuts down at222:19
Turskii've mostly had to recharge at 60% since that's when the problems have started22:20
AL13N_jolla_myeah i don't think that actually helps22:20
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TrappedHi everyone22:23
shallimus hi Trapped22:24
TrappedAnyone knows how does the Jolla in its whole store contacs?22:24
shallimusheh. I've been lurking waiting for some discussion in the hopes of asking my own similar question about the calendar.22:24
shallimusand sorry, no, I don't22:24
TrappedDo you own one? If so, you could lurk through the filesystem22:25
shallimusI do - but what am I looking for?22:25
shallimusfind / -name "*contact*" or what?22:25
TrappedStuff with a name recalling the word "contacts" for example22:25
TrappedThat would be a start22:25
shallimushoping to find some sort of documentation to give some sort of clue first22:26
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shallimushmm - I have to afk, but I'll be back22:26
shallimusif I can find anything later I'll type it here and on TMO22:26
TrappedI'm looking for some as well, but seems like both Nemo and Mer are not widely documented22:26
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shallimuswell, I'll give it a look when I return, but gotta go22:26
shallimusgood luck :)22:26
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Trappedshallimus: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1397747#post139774722:29
EztranHehe, was literally just about to post that location :)22:30
EztranSorry, I'm a little slow apparently.22:30
TrappedI must say, I find such a deep location to be quite obscure22:32
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TrappedObviously it doesn't affect the end user, but having something like /home/nemo/.contacts.db would have been cleaner imho22:32
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shallimusif you're still there, Trapped, I'm back and SSH'd into my Jolla23:01
shallimusI saw the TMO post you found23:01
shallimusstill need some info? I can try to dig it out if you like23:01
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TrappedI'd like to know the format of the data of that DB23:02
TrappedIt's SQLite as we now know, but how are the rows composed?23:02
shallimusyou mean the schema, not just that it's sqllite23:03
shallimusOK, will look23:03
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shallimusthere are about 20 tables in there23:05
shallimusAddresses, Anniversaries Avatars, Birthdays, EmailAddresses etc23:06
shallimusso no one "contacts" table as far as I can see23:06
shallimusfor instance:23:08
shallimussqlite> pragma table_info(PhoneNumbers); 0|detailId|INTEGER|0||1 1|contactId|INTEGER KEY|0||0 2|phoneNumber|TEXT|0||0 3|subTypes|TEXT|0||0 4|normalizedNumber|TEXT|0||023:08
shallimusnot sure how helpful it is to dump random info, but that's the best I can do right now without more specific stuff to look for23:09
shallimusnot on my main machine so can't easily do more complex work, either23:09
TrappedI just wanted to know if it's there that the actual contacts (with phone numbers and names et cetera) are stored23:10
shallimusbut it shouldn't be too tricky to post the sqlite_master contents to TMO or somewhere later23:10
shallimusoh yes23:10
shallimuswell... to be more precise: I see contacts info in there23:10
TrappedI need to migrate 4000+ contacts from a Nokia phone23:10
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shallimusnot the N9? I saw somewhere something about migrating data from that to Jolla phone23:10
shallimusand could you perhaps migrate from another Nokia to N9 to Jolla?23:10
Eztranvcf works IIRC?23:11
TrappedIt's not an N923:11
TrappedIt's a E7223:11
shallimusyeah I think I saw something about vcd: so maybe extract other phone in whatever format, convert to vcd somehow (aybe some nice canned script, or maybe you need to write something)....?23:11
shallimusthen mass load vcd somehow through terminal23:12
shallimusEztran is probably your saviour here in terms of ideas :)23:12
shallimusnot sure who has vcd these days23:12
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Nightmare__if it is a symbian nokia it should be supported since the last update https://together.jolla.com/question/33507/release-notes-software-version-10420-ohijarvi/23:13
specialyou can reverse engineer the contacts database format23:13
specialhttps://github.com/nemomobile/qtcontacts-sqlite or you could look at github23:13
shallimusor something much easier, right?23:13
specialmiddleware is all OSS, take advantage :p23:13
shallimusbut VCF extract from E72 should be simple23:13
shallimusso maybe no need23:13
shallimusI really, really need to get into github23:13
TrappedI already tried to export the VCFs from the phone with Nokia's program23:14
TrappedIt crashed23:14
shallimusthat's one problem with working in a closed/proprietary environment for my job... learn some cool things, but miss out on a decade of internet-based advancemdent23:14
TrappedSo I'm just gonna take all the contacts one by one23:14
shallimuswell, that sucks23:14
Trapped4000, but full of info23:14
Nightmare__on my n8 i just selected all contacts an selected save to sdcard -> all contacts were stored as vcf on sdcardhandy23:14
shallimusagree: don't think you need external software to extract VCF (see that link I posted)23:15
shallimusadmittedly that's for an E71 but same thing basically afaik23:15
TrappedYeah, probably23:15
TrappedGonna try that then23:16
TrappedGoodnight everyone, gotta work tomorrow :)23:16
shallimushope it works :P g'night23:16
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shallimusOK - so I found the sqlite DB which represents the calendar23:30
shallimusanyone know why removing and re-adding my google account doesn't result in recreation of the Calendar?23:30
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shallimusgood night #sailfishos23:37
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