Tuesday, 2014-03-25

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Almindorhow are application settings handled? (sorry if I'm asking documented questions, but I don't see this one anywhere)00:08
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flora--hi, I want to look into jolla mobile app log info, what command do I need to run?02:44
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kempeanyone knows if it is possible to have two diffrent context menus in a listview? i have to different objects in the same list07:54
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SergioKravtsovkempe, I didn't get what you want exactly, can you explain it again?08:09
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kempeSergioKravtsov, i have to diffrent kind of objects in the same list, they are visualy diffrent and i would like to trigger two diffrent context menus for them so i wonder if it is possible to have two context menus for one list and then trigger the right context menu based on some criteria08:12
Accekempe: how have you designed the delegate for your view?08:13
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kempeAcce,  I've just now started to implement the new object in the list so the code i have now is a bit messy but http://pastie.org/896652608:19
SergioKravtsovkempe, I use TurboIRC app and everything here is separated as you want08:19
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kempeturboIRC for sailfish? cant find it on duckduckgo and i dont have the phone. but i just ordered one today accualy so i will soon :)08:23
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Accekempe: I have 2 possible solutions to your problem: either make another Component for the other menu, and have menu: somecondition ? firstMenu : secondMenu08:24
Acceother option is to use states to change the menu items texts and functions their signals connect to08:25
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kempeAcce, ok thank you. so it is possible then. i will try the first suggestion08:26
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Almindorwhat is the component used in settings/system/battery? I mean the circular indicator, is it silica or custom?10:45
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AcceAlmindor: ProgressCircleBase, see /usr/share/jolla-settings/pages/battery/mainpage.qml for more11:02
AlmindorAcce: thanks, why are these not public?11:02
Acceno idea11:02
Almindoror is it not part of silica?11:02
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Accei think it's pair of silica, probably used for the progress circles11:03
Accepart of*11:03
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AlmindorAcce: silica is not open source, is it?11:25
Stskeepskinda partially, BSD qml11:25
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Almindorwhere can I view it?11:27
Stskeepson device11:27
Almindorno repo11:27
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Almindorso, how are app settings handled?11:47
coderusany mitakuuluu users with messages send/receive issues?11:50
Almindorcoderus: sometimes I get complete reg-dropouts11:54
Almindorcoderus: had to re-register 2x already, seems to be stable now tho11:54
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coderusAlmindor: just dont use two whatsapp clients with same number :D11:55
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Almindorcoderus: I don't, haven't used whatsapp for 2 years (was in Canada until recently). It just failed login for me at one point, one oddity was that when I went "register" again after that, it just let me in, no sms/call needed11:57
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coderuswell, old tokens can expire. i updating tokens on server and it automatically fetched in slow schedule :)11:59
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Nightmare__coderus, no problems with senden&receiving so far12:01
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avivbyoAny news under the sun?12:30
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avivbyotbr: truely?12:36
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tbravivbyo: yes https://news.google.com/12:36
avivbyoI laughed i swear :D12:36
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jussiavivbyo: no, we havent heard anything about the android port. sorry. It will come in due course12:48
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jussi(I assume that is what you were inquiring about? )12:49
tbrand those who contacted sledges will receive information by email12:49
Stskeepsjuggling images like crazy12:50
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jussiStskeeps: hrm, juggling images, now that puts funny pictures into my mind...12:51
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jussiI can just see Stskeeps juggling a couple of rembrandt copies...12:52
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flotronHow can i package an rpm without qt creator? like we used to with deb for harmattan?13:07
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lbt_there's a script called mb2 on the VM which makes it easy13:09
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lbtmb2 --help works too13:09
lbtessentially cd to your project dir containing rpm and run mb2 build13:10
lbtQtCreator builds in shadow dirs though - so be aware of that13:10
Almindornobody knows how to store your apps settings?13:12
flotronIs there any tutorial there about that?13:12
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Sfiet_KonstantinAlmindor: QSettings ?13:13
AlmindorSfiet_Konstantin, is that "integrated" with Sailfish OS? e.g. the "settings/apps" thing?13:14
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AlmindorI thought you had to declare your settings page special so that the settings/apps can work with it somehow?13:14
Nicd-there is no API for that yet13:15
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Sfiet_KonstantinAlmindor: not allowed yet13:16
AlmindorI see13:17
Sfiet_KonstantinNicd-: there is, but you need to hack / install inside other folders13:17
Sfiet_Konstantin(for instance /usr/share/jolla-settings)13:17
Nicd-Sfiet_Konstantin: well, let's say there is no public API :P13:17
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Sfiet_KonstantinNicd-: :P13:19
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pratamaaudino admin here ?13:32
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Stskeepsno need13:32
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pratamaaudiand what we do next..then -__13:33
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Almindordoes slider.value write back too or do I have to add a "save" button or somesuch?13:39
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Almindorprovided the C++ property has a WRITE13:39
Yanielpratamaaudi: what do you need an admin for13:39
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pratamaaudito show me how to get the ROM :P13:40
Yanieladmins have nothing to do with that13:41
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pratamaaudiooo.. ok13:42
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Yanielif you are interested in the nexus early adopter thing, pm sledges13:42
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AcceAlmindor: yes, if you have specified the WRITE function, it should be binded if you say for example myProperty: sliderId.value13:44
pratamaaudithanks for the advice bro :D13:44
AlmindorAcce: seems I had to do a onValueChanged: myObj.value = value13:44
AlmindorAcce: using just value: myObj.value didn't write back13:45
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AcceAlmindor: yes, if you write value: myObj.value to the slider, then the myObj.value is binded to the slider value13:46
Acceie. changing myObj.value changes the slider value13:46
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AlmindorAcce: yes but changing the slider from UI didn't write back to the object's value13:46
Acceyou need to say MyObj{ value: slider.value } Slider { id: slider etc...}13:47
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Accebut then if you change the value in your c++ code, it won't change in the UI13:48
AcceI don't remember if you can have two-ways binding, but as you already solved it, acting on onPropertyChanged works13:49
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fzkhope we are gonna see sailfish ported for androiddevices soon :-)15:34
natoriousfzk: did you sign up as an early adopter?15:36
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fzknatorious: no, is that required?15:41
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natoriousfzk: it is.  You can /msg sledges with your email, phones and why youd want to etc.15:42
natoriousafter that chill though.  These guys are working hard to get it out and will email you15:42
fzknatorious: i see, sounds intersting15:42
fzkyeah, devs usually are pretty busy15:43
natoriousthe word is soon-ish15:43
fzki was considering reviving my n9 and try it out, but it is totally borked after it tasted some concrete15:43
natoriousright on.  The early access is currently only for the nexus 415:45
flotronthey launch it this week15:45
fzkah, only hw i got access to is a samsung s315:45
fzkbetter to wait then15:46
pratikit is true its going to release before the end of this week  ?15:46
pratikmy nexus 4 can't wait...15:48
kempeif you have 2 pages stacked and press back so the first page is showing again is there any method on the first page that can react to that like "onFocused"?15:50
kempeor on the second page listen for "onBackPressed"15:55
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netzviehfzk: the lte version?16:03
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merlin1991Stskeeps: still want /proc/cmdlines from freshly crashed devices?16:08
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cos-uploaded siilihai mobile 2.1.0, now with support for posting and replying16:09
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cornewhat is the best way to show a warning to a user?16:16
squiddlots of flashy things and sounds16:16
cornelike those "you won an iphone" banners?16:16
squiddor maybe show a picture of a female with not too much clothes16:17
squiddthat way it will get noticed16:17
cornepropably works too :P16:17
cornebut it isnt possible to show some sort of notifications or something?16:18
netzviehcorne: well you could add another page they have to accept first with the warning16:19
netzviehafaik there's no popup16:20
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corneok, thanks16:20
netzviehcorne: and then there's that tap to cancel stuff if that fits better16:20
cornedoesn't really makes sence, i want to warn a user if a folder can't be created16:21
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cornei guess i just have to create a text label16:22
sharpneliHi. I have mer sdk installed. Is there any way to get sailfish repos there so I could build stuff that uses SDL2?16:22
sharpneliI need mer sdk because some rpm build scripts are broken on the VM based SDK16:22
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Sfiet_Konstantinsharpneli: ssu ar ?16:33
Sfiet_Konstantincheck the repos from the mer sdk in vbox16:33
Sfiet_Konstantinand then ssu ar them in as a target ?16:33
sharpneliJust copy the repos and do zypper ref and zypper up?16:40
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Sfiet_Konstantinsharpneli: ssu manages repositories16:43
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sharpnelissu command not found16:44
sharpneliI have stock mer platform sdk16:44
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zoldyckwhat is the reason to disable repos before last update? just wondering what was wrong16:45
netzviehzoldyck: some openrepo made problems since it had a newer version? something like that. the new store client can handle that though16:46
Sfiet_Konstantinsharpneli: hum ...16:50
Sfiet_Konstantinyou need an ARM target first16:50
Sfiet_Konstantinone sec16:50
Sfiet_Konstantinhum ...16:50
Sfiet_Konstantinnot sure you can find a good target out there16:50
Sfiet_Konstantinbut you need a sailfish target16:51
Sfiet_Konstantinor better, copy the target from inside the Mer SDK ?16:51
Sfiet_KonstantinI don't know16:51
Sfiet_Konstantin(the Mer VBox SDK to the chroot Mer SDK)16:51
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sharpneliSfiet_Konstantin: I managed to find http://releases.sailfishos.org/sdk/latest/targets/16:54
phaeronzoldyck: netzvieh one of the openrepos had a non-functional bash package16:54
sharpneliIt seems to work16:54
Sfiet_Konstantinsharpneli: great :)16:55
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netzviehphaeron: ah, okay.16:59
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locusfjake9xx_: do you guys have a timeline on dumping the qtc_* macros from the spec files?17:45
locusfoh yeah, the sdk is open source, I could take a look how its done and PR you guys17:45
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locusfkaltsi: which Qt are you building against? Can I just clone the Mer Qt repo and then ride on from there?17:50
kaltsilocusf: qt 4.8.517:50
kaltsiyou should take qt from gitorious17:51
locusfkaltsi: okay17:51
kaltsithe qtc_* macros are needed by mb2, not qt creator17:51
locusfokay I just checked the sources too17:54
locusfhow can I run make clean with mb2?17:54
kaltsimb2 -t target make clean17:55
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locusfusr/include/c++/4.6.4/bits/stl_relops.:68: Parse error at "std"17:55
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locusfthis happens with mb217:58
locusfnot qt creator, in qt creator it builds just fine17:58
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kaltsihard to say off hand.. never seen such a thing18:00
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locusfhttps://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-31496 <- there is a bug for it18:02
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locusfshould be resolved though18:02
schneehundhi @ all18:02
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kaltsilocusf: is this problem unrelated to building qt creator or qt itself, but you have it in your project?18:04
kaltsibecause building qt for qtcreator and then qtcreator is something you must do in your host computer, not in mersdk or with mb2 (just checking) :)18:05
locusfkaltsi: yeah I was just playing around with the deployment of my own project :)18:06
locusfkaltsi: the above std error happens in my moc runtime18:07
locusfkaltsi: but if I try to build the project on qt creator, I just get qmake usage string18:07
locusfwhich is due to not using qtc macros18:08
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kaltsilocusf: ahh ok.. you can always copy the qtc_ macros there.. they are required for shadow building to work at least, if you turn it off it might work without them18:09
kaltsilocusf: I haven't had time to figure out why they are required for shadow building18:09
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schneehundfound this channel at the xda Forums. i can sacrifice some spare time to test the the mako (N4) img. iam a experienced Linux user for a long time, and maybe iam able to contribute something, at least some bugs :-) .18:11
locusfkaltsi: okay18:11
Stskeepsschneehund: sign up with sledges with your email, devices, name and why18:11
tbrschneehund: privmsg sledges with your email address and some background info why/how/etc18:11
locusfkaltsi: I figured out the moc error now, I just did cp armv7hl-meego-linux i486-meego-linux in /usr/include/c++/4.6.418:13
kaltsithat doesn't sound right18:14
locusfbut it worked ok18:15
kaltsiare you trying to build for arm or i486?18:16
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kaltsilocusf: sorry, it could be something very simple, but I have to run before the shops close :)18:21
locusfkaltsi: ok, no probs, all working now so no matter18:22
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m4g0gmy jolla very often shutdown or reboot. May be there is a way to reflesh it or reinstall?18:55
netzviehm4g0g: try #jollamobile18:56
Accesome other people have had that problem too18:57
netzviehbut it's a rather known bug yes18:57
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Accesend output of "cat /proc/cmdline" as root to Stskeeps18:58
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Accem4g0g: ^ he asked that in twitter if you have reboots / shutdowns18:59
m4g0gI can send it here to private? Or where?18:59
Acceyep, irc query should work19:00
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Morpog_coderus, latest mitäkuuluu has a language bug, it went back to english and i cannot select any language19:17
Morpog_and settings page is stuck after trying to set language19:18
cos-m4g0g: does it happen even updating to latest version?19:20
m4g0gcos-: yes19:21
m4g0git begins after updating to latest version19:21
cos-oh.. updating fixed it for me19:21
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kempeis it possible to interact with the application cover from javascript or another qml file?19:27
m4g0gwhat you mean?19:29
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ejjomancoderus: same here... no language selection possible19:34
ejjomankempe: what are you planning to do?19:34
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kempeejjoman,  for now i just want to update the label i got on the cover.. with a value that is not known before hand. if i use a cover action the value is updated but i would like to updated without having to trigger a cover action19:43
coderuscant confirm. i can change language in mitakuuluu19:44
coderuskempe: in cover use variables from other objects and change it as you wish19:45
ejjomankempe: you could use a property for this... in cover make a "property alias labeltext: mylabel.text"19:46
ejjomankempe: so you can set it with myCover.labeltext = "..."19:46
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coderusbetter use appWindow properties :)19:49
coderuslabel.text = appWindow.coverTitle19:49
coderusleftAction.iconSource = appWindow.leftIcon19:49
coderusleftAction.onClicked() { appWindow.leftClicked() }19:50
coderusand so on19:50
ejjomancoderus: unfortunately there is no error on stdout/stderr... so i can't say what is wrong19:50
coderusejjoman: language?19:50
ejjomancoderus: german... but there are no languages listed19:51
coderuscat /home/nemo/.config/coderus/whatsapp.conf | grep locale19:51
ejjomancoderus: locale=de.qm19:51
coderusls /usr/share/harbour-mitakuuluu/locales | grep de19:52
ejjomancoderus: there is no folder 'locales'19:53
kempeejjoman, yeah i use property  now for it, but how can i reach appWindow (which i guess is a id for the ApplicationWindow component) from another file?19:56
coderusls /usr/share/harbour-mitakuuluu/locale | grep de19:57
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coderusseems missed filder to deploy :D19:58
coderuskempe: set id for it and access by id19:58
ejjomancoderus: neither :D19:58
coderusit accessible from any page/component/whatever19:58
ejjomancoderus: data  emoji  images  mediasource  qml19:58
coderusok :D19:58
coderusgo and update translations first19:59
coderusmany strings added :)19:59
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Morpog_aaah, it's a trick to force us doing translations :D19:59
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kempecoderus, thanks did not know that you could refrence to something in another file by id. and thanks ejjoman it works as i wanted it to20:11
ejjomankempe: you're welcome :)20:12
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ejjomancoderus: can you give me more rights in transifex? I can not edit already checked strings. There are some bad translations...20:14
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ejjomankempe: you could also take a look on my project on github: https://github.com/ejjoman/harbour-sailwave20:19
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Morpog_ejjoman, german ones?20:20
ejjomanMorpog_: yes20:20
Morpog_i'm the ccordinator there, which strings?20:21
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Morpog_some stuff may not 100% perfect translated or have a slightly different meaning, but most of times thats because of text length20:21
ejjomanMorpog_: "Disconnecting" / "trennt..."20:22
ejjomanMorpog_: looks bad in Remorsetimer20:22
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Morpog_Verbindung trennen20:24
Morpog_my original translation was "Trennen"20:24
Morpog_az2111 changed it20:24
ejjoman"Verbindung wird getrennt", I would guess20:24
ejjomanbecause remorse adds ": In %1 Sekunden" to it20:25
Morpog_is there enough space for such a long sentence?20:25
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carepackspeaking german?20:27
ejjomani take a look...20:27
Morpog_discussing german translation of mitäkuuluu20:27
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carepackcan help if you want20:27
Morpog_ejjoman, which user are you there?20:27
Morpog_ejjoman, you seem to have enoughh rights already20:28
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Morpog_carepack, sure it's on transifex20:29
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ejjomanMorpog_: Length seems okay20:29
carepackcan you provide a link20:29
CvP_or abmelden20:29
Morpog_Abmelden seems fine20:30
Morpog_ejjoman, ?20:30
coderusejjoman: you need to request it first i think. and then i accept20:31
ejjomanMorpog_: gf on phone :P20:31
Morpog_coderus, he is in the group already20:31
coderusif you want to help debug Mitakuuluu registration/group paricitants issues please follow: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu/issues/179#issuecomment-3861592820:31
coderusMorpog_: role request20:31
Morpog_ah ok20:32
coderusejjoman: ok found you, added to correctors20:32
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carepackrequest is out. thx20:33
carepackcoderus: for translation on transifex20:35
artemmaBug abt inconsistent reporting of QStandardPaths::ConfigLocation - https://together.jolla.com/question/36307/bug-qstandardpathsconfiglocation-is-inconsistent-with-the-other-standard-locations/20:35
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artemmapls, have a look and vote (gathering popularity round is proper Sailfish bug reporting step, right?)20:36
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coderusartemma: Config location, however, points to just.. ? empty?20:37
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artemmacoderus: thx, missed it somehow :) Corrected now20:38
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Morpog_ejjoman, ok changed now all 4 disconnect strings to Abmelden or Abgemeldet20:40
ejjomancoderus: thank you :)20:44
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ejjomanMorpog_: I can't see your changes... I changed the RemorsePopup's text to "Verbindung wird getrennt" - looks good to me on the phone20:46
Morpog_oops, sorry just saved it a moment gao20:47
Morpog_ok, if it looks good we change back to it :)20:47
ejjomanMorpog_: "Abmelden in: %1 Sekunden." seems a bit strange to me, doesn't it? :)20:48
Morpog_ok coderus german and russian is done, you can compile a new release :) *joke*i20:49
ejjoman+1 :)20:50
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carepacktranslation work nearly done for mitäkuuluu?!20:52
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Morpog_carepack, we are always fast20:53
Morpog_ît is done20:53
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Morpog_just notreviewed 100%20:54
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CvP_wich german book helps me dumb man lern c++ ? :)20:58
Morpog_don't ask me, I failed at it in school :D20:58
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carepacklol. yeah fast.21:02
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carepackCvP: what you're searching for?21:04
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CvP_carepack: i search more brain to understand c++ :) or some one what prog me a app :)21:11
cos-any ideas how to debug "You do not have any emails", although i have a imap account set up?21:11
netzviehcos-: access to the server?21:12
cos-netzvieh: what about it?21:12
netzviehdo you have access to the mail server? so you can see that side?21:13
cos-yes, with thunderbird it works21:13
netzviehI meant direct access, log files and stuff21:14
cos-nope, i don't think i can access those21:14
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ejjomancos-: what says your Settings > Transfers? Any errors?21:17
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netzviehI had a problem with Authentication set wrong. otherwise maybe journalctl has something for you21:18
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cos-ejjoman: plenty of "Failed"'s with no more info21:19
ejjomancos-: Then you should check your account settings - seems like a connection error21:19
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ejjomancos-: I had serval problems with Yahoo... Had wrong auth settings21:20
netzviehcos-: whats the server settings for that account in thunderbird and what do you have on jolla?21:20
cos-i'm just comparing with another jolla user who has the server working21:21
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ejjomanCan someone tell me, how I can compile qt from sources in mer sdk build engine?21:23
ejjomanI get numerous "undefined reference" :(21:24
cos-nope, i have identical settings with thunderbird and still the mails won't work21:26
carepacklol. ah okay ;)21:26
cos-at least the error reporting could be improved..21:26
netzviehcos-: well somehow it should be possible to turn on debug logging in the mail client21:27
cos-i think i'll go to bed and read a book instead21:28
netzviehcos-: books are nice :)21:29
cos-and they always work :)21:29
netzviehyou just need some external light source yes ;)21:29
netzviehI need actually a second large bookshelf rather soon21:30
netzviehthere are books everywhere bc the shelf is full :D21:30
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netzviehcos-: I'd still like to see your thunderbird settings and jolla settings, w/o username and server ofc ;) maybe there is a slight difference somewhere21:32
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ejjomancos-: can you open jolla-email in terminal? maybe it will write error messages to console21:35
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artemmanetzvieh: there's always Jolla Flashlight when you need it. Not sure if it's soft enough for book reading though :)21:40
artemmanetzvieh: there's always Jolla Flashlight when you need it. Not sure if it's soft enough for book reading though :)21:40
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netzviehartemma: well the color isn't that good for reading ;) I prefer a bit more warmth in the light when reading ;)21:43
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artemmanetzvieh: yeah, next time I'll try using front LED, there you can get more colors :)21:45
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Acceartemma: your flashlight update screen seemed clear and nice, btw, and it works nicely with other apps on.. but it crashed after switching it on/off few times from the cover21:45
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artemmaAcce: thanks, I was doubtful if I want to go for traditional OK button note, or sailfish-like swipe-based something21:46
artemmaAcce: crashing... sad. Just flashlight or whole device?21:46
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artemmaregular switching or you were trying to do it very quickly?21:47
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Accejust the flashlight, nothing too serious since it's not an usual use case to switch it on/off frequently, just testing around21:47
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Accenot very quickly, in between switching with another apps21:47
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artemmapkcon remove harbour-log4qtdemo22:37
artemmaFatal error: Specified path '/var/tmp/TmpDir.pgd9sF' is not a directory: dir:///var/tmp/TmpDir.pgd9sF22:37
artemmaI broke something and can't understand what22:37
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artemmanever mind, emulator reboot helped22:40
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