Wednesday, 2014-04-02

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jussiMorning all05:13
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squiddthat good morning tbr? :P05:31
* Stskeeps curls up in fetal position and wishes this cold would be over with soon..05:32
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jussiStskeeps: with you there. where did this come from, last week was beautiful...05:33
Stskeepswell, i'm having a cold..05:33
kimmoli_sailing_aah sunshine, -4, cup of coffee at balcony. gooood moorning.05:35
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jussiStskeeps: oh. there is that too.05:40
jussikimmoli_sailing_: shush :P people with glass balconies... :P05:40
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kimmolii have a perl-hangover05:42
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jussiAnd the monkeys all say boo!06:49
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carepackgood morning07:02
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coderusscaling 60MB jpeg using QImage::scaledToWidth with Qt::FastTransformation causing process killing07:32
coderuscan i override it somehow?07:32
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joonahoicoderus: completely guesswork here, but if possible, I think you should actually resize the image, and show the resized version, even if you aren't going to keep it07:37
joonahoidespite the overhead in the initial loading, I guess everything related to rendering will be so much faster once the resized image is in memory07:38
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Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: \o/07:44
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faenilSfiet_Konstantin, o/07:44
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Sfiet_KonstantinBTW, faenil, if you are interested:
faenilahahah :) cool07:45
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coderusjoonahoi: i only need to resize image and save it to file07:55
coderusits daemon process with no gui07:56
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dr_gogeta86g'day guys08:00
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carepacksice latest update via zypper up you guyshave done some good improvements. The os on mako is more fluidly and stable since then. Someone already reported that the lockscreen doesn't fit 100% correctly to mako screen?08:02
coderusSfiet_Konstantin: something unexpected on screenshot? :)08:02
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Sfiet_Konstantincoderus: hack08:03
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coderusSfiet_Konstantin: i know, but you must show something really exciting instead of extending multitask grid :)08:04
Sfiet_Konstantincoderus: what do you want ?08:04
Sfiet_Konstantin(I'm thinking about something else too actually)08:04
coderuslockscreen widgets for example08:06
coderusthats would be really useful08:06
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coderusmoved picture resizer to different thread with low priority, it still caused to kill process08:10
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joonahoicoderus: it's most likely hogging too much memory and gets killed by kernel08:26
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coderusoom probably08:33
squiddout of mana!08:34
faenil"not enough mana"08:36
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joonahoicoderus: check this out:
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Stskeepsdear lazyweb, can you tell me about MultiROM and how it works08:53
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sledgesStskeeps: 22:52 < cxl000> sledges, multirom extracts boot, root etc from the android zip or a mrom file, there is a config file that specifies the locations and boot args, the kernel is kexec'd, an initrd scans /proc/cmdline and sets root etc08:54
sledges22:54 < cxl000> sledges, there is a tool at to help package mrom08:54
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coderusartemma: ping09:34
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coderusjoonahoi: interesting, thanks09:35
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cxl000Stskeeps,  An enhanced twrp provides the menu to add roms09:55
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cxl000I believe the mrom initrd is based on the ubuntu phablet initrd09:59
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lbtcxl000: but it's all basically kexec?10:05
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cxl000yes, basic kexec and the init script parses cmdline for the root dir with the partition10:13
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cxl000The boot kernel needs kexec with hardboot10:15
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cxl000filesystens are extracted into the data partition. the mrom boot mount the data partition as root, the initrd init script read the rom subdir from cmdline and changes root and other initrd thing then run /sbin/init as normal10:23
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artemmacoderus: pong10:38
Juubacan Jolla push out HDMI from the USB?10:38
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dr_gogeta86Stskeeps: but usb is limited in current ?10:51
dr_gogeta86or is limited in chipset functionality ?10:51
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coderusartemma: flashlight surces available?11:14
stephgon a related node, lbt_ is the Dice source anywhere?11:15
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lbt_stephg: no - it's just an ugly personal hack project atm and really isn't good to copy/use :) When I'm a bit happier on how stuff should be done I'll publish it. Happy to share chunks if there are questions11:21
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stephgah ok11:22
stephgno was only asking really for idle playing, no real reason11:22
lbtI really am learning by doing things badly and then realising how I should do it :)11:22
stephgit's the only way to learn :)11:22
stephghm it's only on the store tho isn't it11:23
lbtif you're interested in doing 3D though I've solved a lot of niggles so can help sort bits out - I answered a question on tjc about it11:23
stephg(probably be a good thing to try on an n4)11:23
lbtI tried it on something but no sensors11:23
stephgaaah of course11:23
lbtso the dice just floated11:23
stephgstill quite cool tho!11:24
lbtI'll try the s3 next time I build it11:24
lbtyeah - I started a fork which pulls in nurb-built meshes from blender now11:24
lbttrying to solve issues like managing physics mesh and 3D mesh in blender and link them11:25
lbtand in the code too - I used MI and should have used pointers :)11:25
lbtonce I've got collision detection working and a couple of other bits I think I'll have solved most of my "TODO"s and be ready for a re-write11:27
stephgcurious how the performance will change11:28
stephg(not from a perf pov, but power)11:28
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stephgas I said in the app comments it gets a fair amount of action in the pub with games of perudo11:29
lbtnormally the physics engine goes quiet when it reaches a stable state - but I deliberately stop that since gravity can change direction - so there's a possibility to optimise that and only re-activate when the sensors move by a certain amount11:32
lbtwhat I think I'll do is rewrite it when I refactor it and then think about OSSing it. OTOH I'm also thinking about making some money from it too - so need to think how to handle that side. $$ for OSS apps is an interesting issue11:34
artemmacoderus: flashlight services are closed, sorry. I can share the ideas of how it works though11:39
artemmacoderus: flashlight core is quite close to , Flashlight app is mostly like carefully repackaged GSTTorch2 + bells, whistles and QML11:40
stephglbt, well I don't see the support market for it being particularly large ;)11:40
stephgso that's not an angle11:41
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chem|stdid jolla somehow redefine "stable"? Just like they did with "soon"? How about some closed beta testing with the "first one"s? NDA terms are ok with me, at least I know that I am testing a beta when joining instead of expecting stable from a stable release instead of never knowing if I be actually able to receive phone-calls on a beta that is just called alpha to have a nice PR drive...11:58
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chem|stehrm stable...11:59
ln-"stable" is a building for keeping horses11:59
chem|st"stable release"12:00
squiddhow did they redefine soon?12:00
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chem|stif I google soon I find jolla on the first page of ~512M hits12:01
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Accechem|st: :D12:02
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Accehmm.. didn't work for me12:02
chem|stneed some more fun-facts?12:02
Accewhat is your country setting?12:03
squidddoesnt work for me either12:03
chem|stmy browser is set to german...12:03
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chem|stfirst entries are soonmusic wowwiki and wikipedia in de. and en.12:04
Accehmm nope :( maybe it ranked the results based on your earlier searches12:04
chem|stlet me see what happens looged out12:04
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Accebetter clear cookies too / try different browser12:04
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chem|stnope logging out is just fine...12:05
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squiddyou have just fixed the internet :P12:07
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chem|stsquidd:  Soon is: Old English sōna 'immediately', of West Germanic origin. Now: In or after a short time.12:08
squiddmakes sense12:09
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carepackstskeeps: how yo're doing the hadk presentation?12:19
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coderusartemma: just in case you did some changes in gstreamer and libs packed with your application you should publish it sources12:19
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gabriel9|workCan i use Audio for mp3 stream?12:23
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carepacksuggestion for gallery app. If I have the gallery app open and I'll save an image for example of mitäkuuluu, I'll first have to close the gallery app before the image is up coming in gallery app. Maybe it's possible to add an refreash option in gallery?12:26
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gabriel9|workQGstreamerPlayerSession::processBusMessage:1178 - Error: "File Not Found"  error12:28
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coderuscarepack: did you tried it for example with camera? it working okay.12:31
carepackcamera? on n4 not able to take pictures atm ;) or you mean something different?12:31
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coderusi mean mitakuuluu is not a part of system and not using system gallery tracker to fetch new images.12:33
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carepackcoderus: ah. ok. thx. you're were right. Effect is not present if I'll do via browser12:36
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ottulomeh, mitakuuluu unable to connect for some reason12:44
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ottuloupdated to 0.2-9, wouldn't connect, downgraded to 0.2-8, still the same12:45
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artemmacoderus: sure. I didn't do any gstreamer mods. Didn't even compile it actually, just copying device binaries to app's folders :)13:08
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dr_gogeta86coderus: i've directly used led device from linux for that13:21
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coderusartemma: okay then13:46
coderusi thought your magic is in custom gstreamer ;)13:46
coderusabout whatsapp:
coderusdr_gogeta86: i'm sorry. what are you talking about?13:47
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dr_gogeta86funny coderus13:49
dr_gogeta86use sailfish phone led13:49
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coderusdr_gogeta86: led...13:50
coderusled indicator?13:50
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coderusyou talking about camera torch?13:51
coderusi cant achieve camera torch with v4l13:51
dr_gogeta86i've create a fucking stupid class13:52
dr_gogeta86that wrap an echo13:52
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dr_gogeta86coderus: echo 1 > /sys/kernel/debug/flash_adp1650/mode13:55
dr_gogeta86that big magic13:55
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coderusgabriel9|work: lol. thanks :D14:01
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coderusgabriel9|work: sorry, wrong button :)14:07
coderusdr_gogeta86: thanks :)14:07
dr_gogeta86I've publish that on december14:07
dr_gogeta86i've use it for lumino14:07
dr_gogeta86i'm too dumb to learn gst14:07
dr_gogeta86as dump sysadmin14:08
dr_gogeta86as dumb sysadmin14:08
dr_gogeta86i've made out some porkarround14:08
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natoriousMore things I noticed with the N4 EA build:14:38
natorious- In app dock, the actions such as + for new note(notes) or new event(calendar) seem to not function as expected.  After a bit of toying, found that swiping on app in tray presented options though wasn’t apparent.14:38
natorious- When typing text, single space after punctuation mark uppercases next letter but two spaces lowercases(not sure if a brit thing ;)14:38
natorious- On main desktop clock view, tapping mail notification badge(top left) does not open mail or present options14:38
natorious- Mail selecting all presents no way to mark all as read.  Can only mark individual msgs and log press with all selected only presents option for single msg14:38
natorious- Noticed in mail but probably exists elsewhere, slide indicator on right when scrolling is not grab-able.14:38
natorious- No easy way to quickly scroll as speed seems limited.14:38
natorious- Gallery zoom appears to be limited to a short range.14:38
natorious- Gallery when zoomed in, am unable to swipe to previous/next photo14:38
natorious- Gallery unable to rotate image in preview.14:38
natorious- When removing apps(long press on app screen) app names are hidden so apps w/ similar icons wound not be distinguishable.14:38
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sledgesnatorious: thanks, noted :)14:40
natoriousany timeline on a new build?14:40
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sledgeslookout for jolla phone update first14:42
natoriousI'll keep digging :)14:42
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Raimmost of those are the same on the Jolla device. maybe you should report them to or, if they already exist, vote there.14:45
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Raimnatorious: for the notifications you have to open the notifications screen. starting actions by tap on the lock screen does not sound like a good idea...14:47
natoriousI was hoping that there would be some sort of quick access to settings from notifications badges, similar to how android, gnome or kde present them14:49
Raimnatorious: swipe in from the bottom to see all notifications14:50
Raimat least I expect it to work the same way on Nexus 4 :-)14:51
Raimof course it's originally meant for the Jolla, but the stuff about gestures should be the same for any Sailfish device14:53
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natoriousawesome, ty sir14:54
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sledgesnatorious: access to settings (and more) is via pulley menu in the lock screen15:06
sledgesthanks Raim for proof reading :)15:06
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* sledges throws in a lifebuoy15:46
lbthe's gone sledges ;(15:49
sledgeshe got root O_O15:49
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lbtOK , lets move on15:49
sledgeswe couldn't save him15:49
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ln-if i would like to draw some 2D graphics (moving sprites and stuff), i.e. make a simple game, what would be the preferred way to do that on sailfish?16:40
ln-maybe, but not IDE-friendly and not harbour-compatible yet.16:44
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SpeedEvil - TOH camera?16:56
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bentzhi everyone!17:05
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aironeousI'm curious if Jolla pays the ACL license fee based on downloads of ACL from store (in which case Android hw with Sailfish installed could install this at some point when allowed) or based on Jolla hw sold17:09
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aironeousLots of Android hw owners want to know if at some point in the future that can purchase the license17:09
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Stskeepsaironeous: i think we're not leaving out the possibility and please don't mention openmobility acl in polite company.. we use alien dalvik17:13
aironeoussorry my mistake17:14
aironeoussomewhere in the back of my mind I knew i was using the wrong term but couldn't rememer where to look it up17:14
aironeousthey are referring to it that way in some posts in xda. I think it gets interchanged mistakenly17:16
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aironeousok just looked at xda forums and I'm the only one that made that mistake17:23
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Stskeepsbut anyway, i wouldn't say it's impossible that android support will arrive17:26
Stskeepsbut, basics first17:26
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aironeousyes basics first I agree. Just speculating if it would lead to more native apps for Sailfish if you allow that in the future. I think it would as the carrot of the cover actions is being dangled there. I'm not a developer but I would think that they would want to get in on that action once the community grows large17:37
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aironeousI'm leaving to go metal detecting in the park.17:46
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wickwireHi guys, I'm trying to search some packages with pkcon18:08
wickwirebut I'm getting "Command failed: Invalid search type"18:08
wickwireI'm trying to search like so:18:09
wickwirepkcon search snow-white18:09
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wickwireif I replace "search" with "install", it correctly installs the ambience18:09
wickwiredoes anyone have any suggestions...?18:09
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chem|stwickwire: search needs a term like "name"18:15
chem|stpkcon search name snow18:15
wickwirechem|st: that's it, thanks!18:15
chem|stwickwire: zypper is much more handy for "short" inputs and missing bash-completion18:16
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wickwireI was just trying to find a test ambience18:17
wickwireI noticed that my search queries were incorrect18:17
wickwireI will install zypper in any case, follow your suggestion18:17
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carepackzypper already installed18:21
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Almindorcan an app reboot the phone? Or at least ask for a user-query to reboot the phone and do it then19:22
ln-there's even an app for that in the store19:24
Almindorbut I thought reboot is root user only19:25
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ln-dunno, i didn't try the app, and don't know the answer per se19:25
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Almindoryeah nemo reboot gives "must be root"19:26
ln-i don't suppose an app in the store can require root access to perform its main function19:27
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lbtln-: nope - apps run as the user19:27
lbtAlmindor: there's a reboot app already in store19:27
Almindorlbt: yes, but people are asking for a reboot option for mine (for some reason, I generally don't get the need)19:28
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Almindorlbt: how does one elevate to root? or can you reboot as nemo somehow?19:28
lbtjust run the reboot command :)19:28
lbtas nemo19:28
Almindorgave me "must be root"19:28
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lbthmm - oh... hmm19:29
lbtI thought that was allowed19:29
Almindorwhich is very expected tbh :)19:29
AlmindorI wouldn't allow it19:29
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lbttbh ... I thought it was allowed because sailfish-reboot exists :)19:31
lbtI wonder if it sends a dbus signal19:32
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Almindorwell it does work19:33
AlmindorI'll try the dbus command as nemo19:33
lbtstrings /usr/bin/harbour-sailfishreboot  | less19:33
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lbtI see /com/nokia/dsme/request req_reboot19:33
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lbtdsmetool -b19:34
lbtmay be developer mode only - not 100% sure19:34
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Almindordoes seem to work from the terminal19:35
AlmindorI can try with the app after turning dev mode off to confirm19:35
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lbtrpm -qf /usr/sbin/dsmetool tells me dsme - which is in a normal device19:36
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ejjomansailfish-reboot dev here :)19:46
ejjomanyes, it uses dsme19:47
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Almindorworks fine, thanks19:51
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Almindorejjoman: what's the license on this?19:52
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ejjomanAlmindor: GPLv3, i should really write license comments in my sources :/19:54
Almindorejjoman: LICENSE files would help too ;)19:55
Almindorejjoman: same as me then, thanks, I'll steal a line or two if you don't mind19:55
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ejjomanAlmindor: yes, that is right :) but it has absolutely no functionality :P19:56
ejjomanAlmindor: no problem, just grab what you need :)19:57
Almindorthanks :)19:58
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Almindorejjoman: do you need to link to dbus somehow?20:03
ejjomanAlmindor: QT += dbus in pro-file20:04
Almindorah, thanks20:04
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Almindorhow do you do a http link in a text?20:09
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ejjomanAlmindor: qml?20:13
Almindorejjoman: yeah inside the textarea if possible20:14
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ejjomanAlmindor: someting like text: 'this is a <a href="">link</a>'20:14
Almindoroh, didn't know it's parsed20:15
ejjomanyou have to set it to RichText20:16
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Almindorejjoman: not listed here
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ejjomanAlmindor: right, silica has it's own textarea :) there you don't need this20:23
Almindorit doesn't seem to pick it up tho (the <a href...)20:24
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Almindoranother thing is, req_shutdown seems to do a reboot20:25
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ejjomanAlmindor: seems like silicas textarea does not support it, although it uses TextEdit element, but does not set textFormat20:29
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Almindorejjoman: yeah, a bit of an oversight I think20:30
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ejjomanAlmindor: to you dsme problem: i will test it in a few minutes20:34
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ejjomanAlmindor: try this
ejjomanAlmindor: req_shutdown does actually a shutdown on my phone...20:38
Almindorejjoman: it reboots jolla20:40
Almindorsec. let me double check I didn't c&p something stupid in the qml :D20:40
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Almindorsry. my bad20:43
Almindorejjoman: the link code works in so far as the link appearance, it's not clickable tho20:43
coderusany easy way to have circular progress bar?20:43
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Almindorcoderus: use ProgressCircleBase20:45
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AlmindorI think there's a ProgressCircle itself too, it's in the silica qml sources20:46
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Almindorit's going to error in the qtbuilder, but works fine (used by settings app)_20:46
ejjomanyes, ProgressCircle20:46
AlmindorI'm working on a multi-value version tho, for stuff like total/shared/free memory20:46
ejjomanAlmindor: tried onLinkActivated?20:48
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ejjomanAlmindor: however, it is an editor... why should one click a link in an editor? :D20:48
Almindorejjoman: I have it read-only, for the about text20:49
ejjomanAlmindor: why not label?20:49
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AlmindorI thought label is rather limited with longer texts20:49
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Almindorwell it doesn't contain any info in the docs :D now wordwrap etc.20:50
ejjomanwrapMode: Text.WordWrap20:50
Almindorejjoman: it's missing in
ejjoman"Label inherits the QtQuick Text type, so any properties, signals and methods of Text[...]"20:51
ejjomanlast paragraph20:51
Almindoryeah that's the broken part:
AlmindorI'll see what it does20:51
ejjomanhere you go:
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Almindorthanks, works nicely20:55
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Almindorejjoman: is there a QML shortcut to open link in browser in the onLinkActivated() I can use directly or do I have to invoke xdg-open from C++?20:56
ejjomanAlmindor: does it not open automatically?20:57
Almindorno, not even in the label20:57
ejjomanthen just use Qt.openUrlExternally(url)20:58
Guest78054"onLinkActivated: Qt.openUrlExternally(link)" more specifically20:58
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Almindorof course20:58
ejjomanAlmindor: you just pointed me to a bug :D i never tried that :D20:59
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Almindorcool :)21:01
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coderusAlmindor: thanks :)21:24
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artemmaHarbour checker script complains about my.. very private conf file22:35
artemmaERROR [/usr/share/harbour-log4qtdemo/log4qt.conf] Hardcoded path: log4j.appender.filelog.file=/home/nemo/.cache/harbour-log4qtdemo/harbour-log4qtdemo.log22:35
artemmaINFO [/usr/share/harbour-log4qtdemo/log4qt.conf] Use XDG basedir instead of /home/nemo/22:35
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artemmaERROR [/usr/bin/harbour-log4qtdemo] Hardcoded path: /home/nemo/.config/22:35
artemmais there a way to exclude a file from checks somehow?22:36
* artemma doesn't want to repackage everything to resources..22:36
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coderusartemma: use QDir::homePath() instead of /home/nemo22:47
coderusthats it22:47
artemmaproblem is that this is in .conf file that log4qt library parses22:47
coderususe $HOME22:48
artemmaand it looks like it doesn't know how to use environment variables, it just reads it as a file name22:48
coderusparse it in your application and replace with actual home path22:48
artemmaas a string22:48
artemmayeah, that's what I will probably do..22:48
coderusyou shouldnt use /hone/meno anywhere22:48
coderusdoesnt matter if conf or binary or qml22:49
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coderusany easy way to create video thumbnail?22:53
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gabriel9how to connect cover and some page23:13
gabriel9I see in Tweetian that they call mainPage.someFunction() in Cover page23:14
gabriel9but my cover does not see mainPage23:15
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